This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

Breaking news as Salesforce announced the launch of Salesforce+ (of course) in quest to become the Netflix for business content. Rants and raves include Joe raving about the BABA Summit in Chicago and the power of communities, and Robert rants about headlines that really mean nothing at all. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. Quick, actionable, under two-hour courses for those looking to start a business. Go through a step-by-step tutorial by business experts like Ryan Foland, Jason Falls, and Kim Garst. Available for absolutely FREE along with downloadable resources, bonus activities, tips & tools, and rewards that range from 1-on-1 mentoring to $1000 cash. Get the training now! ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

The boys kick off the show announcing NFT marketplace OpenSea's big revenue move in the last few weeks. Is Robert coming around the idea? Joe thinks so. The Gap's Athleta launches AthletaWell, a content marketing loyalty play in the leisureware space. A good move, but an even better move to capture first-party data. Facebook will show its first movie, while Amazon pools its resources to become one of the biggest media distribution companies in the world. And digital media adoption overtakes traditional media for the first time, but there is a huge missed opportunity that no one is seeing. In rants and raves, both Joe and Robert rant about the coverage of the Olympics, while Joe recommends the Olympic coverage from Snoop Dogg. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. Quick, actionable, under two-hour courses for those looking to start a business. Go through a step-by-step tutorial by business experts like Ryan Foland, Jason Falls, and Kim Garst. Available for absolutely FREE along with downloadable resources, bonus activities, tips & tools, and rewards that range from 1-on-1 mentoring to $1000 cash. Get the training now! ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Joe and Robert digest the breaking research from The Tilt on the state of the content entrepreneur. What makes them successful? How long does it take to build an audience? How do they make money? Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all release amazing earnings totally almost $100 billion for the quarter. What's next for these most profitable tech companies? After finally taking suggestions from Joe and Robert, Netflix launches into physical retail. It's about time. And Spotify moves to dominate the podcast space. Will it work? Rants and raves include a shout out to Marketing Dive, YouTuber Miles Beckler, and Dax Shepard breaking down crypto. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Clubhouse is back. Maybe. The social audio app is now open to the world, and has gained 10 million new downloads in the past two months. Joe thinks there is a chance. Robert thinks that Clubhouse as a feature only will fail. Zoom launches On Zoom. Frankly, this could be big, and positions Zoom as a clear leader in the video creation and event space. Substack is getting into the podcast game...big time. Is this a good move or just clutter? Everyone is after the 50 million estimated content creators. In rants and raves, Joe raves about this Patreon interview and is concerned about the WSJ report on TikTok's algo. Robert comments once again on Ad Tech. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

In this episode, Joe and Robert break down the future of NFTs in marketing, lead by Gary Vaynerchuk's partnership with Budweiser. TikTok's parent ByteDance goes full Amazon B2B by launching BytePlus, the product version of their AI algorithm. Joe and Robert both believe this is going to be the next greatest thing in marketing tech. Printed books soar, but is the new opportunity really in print magazines? And finally, the advertising market is booming, but not by the normal players. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the GQ feature of Jason Sudeikis and rants about Loki. Robert rants about mainstream marketing media talking about marketing spend going down, when they have absolutely no idea they are using the wrong metrics. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

In breaking news, MEL magazine is sold by Dollar Shave Club and will begin again in a few months. Joe and Robert discuss why content entrepreneurs should work on exit planning and marketing directors need to focus on M&A. Is every company a fintech company? Probably not...but the options for content creators to monetize have never been greater. Joe and Robert discuss all the options. And here comes TikTok! The Chinese social media platform launched a Cameo competitor, hosted one of the largest live streams ever, and now Instagram is shaking a bit. In rants and raves, Joe comments on the NIL movement that is just starting, and Robert complains about the fear being caused over the "quitting crisis." ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

The boys launch the show discussing the NCAA's new ruling that college players can be compensated for their image and likeness. While we don't know exactly what will happen, we do know that athletes from every sport will be developing out their audience-building strategies as of yesterday. In other news, experiential events are on the rise (of course), but are brands throwing out the digital bathwater and missing a huge opportunity? And Buzzfeed finally gets to go public through a SPAC. What's next? About 1,000 M&A deals. Roberts rants about Google's play with cookies, and raves about Budweiser's new commercial. Joe raves about the Amazon/Wondery purchase of the Smartless podcast. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

The Information estimates that last year's creator economy take is about $2 billion dollars. Does it have room to run? CNBC and The Drum cover content marketing like it's a brand new thing, while American Express ditches their Departures print magazine for the web's greener pastures. And podcasts continue to go big, now accounting for over $1 billion in advertising revenues. Rants and raves include Drew Barrymore's new print magazine and Cristiano Ronaldo's spat with Coca-Cola. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

After more than 50 years, American Airlines decided to shutter its print magazine American Way. Good decision? Not a chance. Based on data? Probably not. Americans have hit fatigue status when it comes to Video on Demand (VOD). Is this a short-term blip or will things continue to heat up? Spotify launched its Clubhouse-competitor Greenroom this week. The boys discuss who will win the social audio wars. And finally, Netflix launched a merchandise home on the web. The problem is it doesn't really sell anything. Rants and raves include Link-in-Bio startups, which really isn't a thing and how big tech is taking over the creator economy. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Apple unveiled their new privacy policy this week. Among the features is an ability not to track open rates in email newsletters. The boys think this is bad for ecommerce and advertising and good for long-form email newsletters. Facebook announced their Substack killer, called Bulletin, in their fight to slowly manipulate more content creators to the platform. And of all the new products Twitter has announced, the first one to launch is Twitter Blue, a program that will do not one bit of good for anyone (not that we're opinionated or anything). Rants and raves include a rant from Joe on Facebook's new watch. Robert raves on Bo Burnham's new Netflix show, called Inside. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

In this episode, Joe and Robert start by dissecting the employment move back to offices. Is this a meaningless blip or will marketing and content creation be altered forever? Is the future of media podcasts and newsletters? Axios sure thinks so. While it's an amazing and growing model, both Joe and Robert feel there is an opportunity to zag. Discord does a rebranding. Is there a new CMO or will there be a buyout? The boys think both. And Donald J. Trump announces that his blog will die and he'll move back to social media. From rented land to rented land? Not the best media strategy. In rants and raves, Robert raves about the Salesforce 360 movement, while Joe comments on Google knowledge panels. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Decentralized publishing is starting to become "a thing" with the launch of Mirror.xyz, a site for writers built on top of a crypto economy. And yes, creator coins are a thing. The tokenization of everything is happening and content creators sit at the center. Twitter is on the move, finally getting back to the blue verification mark (get yours now). But in bigger news, Twitter is testing out its Super Followers program, which may very well be a game changer. And are celebrity podcasts really that bad? The short answer? Yes. In rants and raves, Robert comments on John Oliver's latest on sponsored content, while Joe passes on the sad news of another social media platform killing. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

At almost the same time AT&T announced that their WarnerMedia buy was a mistake, Amazon seems close to picking off MGM Studios. Why is everyone except telecom companies figuring this out? And then, there's TheSkimm, which is going shopping for a buyer that is NOT a media company. Big launch week for Pinterest, which adds a live event component, and Twitter, which doesn't quite get their subscription program right. And finally, is everything turning into paid subscription? Rants and raves includes Joe's rave about Coinbase's media house launch, while Robert rants about how some companies are out to destroy our reputations and that AI isn't quite there yet. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Social audio company Clubhouse finally launches in Android, but faces an uphill climb around moderation and trolls. Hubspot makes a brilliant move in starting a podcast network. Could it be a glorified sponsorship package? Possibly. But it's still brilliant. And we finally know why YouTube has been fiddling with their short-form video advertising...they are launching a $100 million dollar creator fund for short-form video creators. There you go. And yes, social media platforms are starting to look the same. Who could be the winner? The boys think Twitch. Joe's commentary includes book publishers working to establish direct-reader relationships. Robert rants about making a big deal about CMO term length, and raves about Signal's outing of Facebook. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Verizon changes course again by selling off AOL and Yahoo to Apollo. Joe and Robert think they'll purchase both back for more at a later date. Rumors are swirling that Netflix may buy Discovery. Smart move considering how much Netflix is paying for original content these days. And we've seen the future and it is Food52 with their purchase of Dansk. Twitter Spaces moves aggressively into Clubhouse's turf, but Joe thinks the online event business should be shaking right now. Robert still can't get a Spaces invite though. And of course, the boys argue about NFTs, including Kevin Smith's NFT sale of his upcoming movie and Gary Vee's NFT launch that includes a super conference. You know what they say about the first through the wall? They get bloody! Raves include content's role moving to the CMO, and how SMS/texting might actually be a solid content distribution choice with examples from Taika and Great Jones. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

In this week's news, Neutrogena and Old Spice release the details on the creation of their internal brand studios. Is this Marriott all over again or something different? The answer is in promotion and audience building. More acquisitions are in the works, as friend of #ThisOldMarketing Jay Acunzo sells his podcast. Are more to come? Investors are getting into the content creation game by purchasing equity in shows and enewsletters, but is this good for creators? And Robert (again) asks, is Clubhouse dead? Robert says yes while Joe thinks the jury is still out. Rants and raves include Robert's Adobe rave (and big opportunity) while Joe rants about rented land and YouTube. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Is the biggest part of a paid advertising budget with influencers now? The boys think not. Science seems to think that the web can survive without advertising. If so, there are huge opportunities for ungated media sites. And...it really doesn't matter what browser you advertise on. In social audio news, Discord launches their own Clubhouse. So will Facebook. And with Microsoft not buying Discord, who will? Breaking news: Apple will offer revamped podcast subscriptions and help drive podcaster revenue. Good? Probably not for the creator middle class. In rants and raves, Robert comments about Apple's big iOS launch, while Joe talks about being indispensable. In M&A news, the Seven Lakes Insider sells to The Pilot newspaper. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

DraftKings hires a chief media offer, kicking off their formal program for content marketing and into actually buying media companies. The latest Pew social media research is out. What do we think? Facebook might be in trouble. Oh, and Americans hate social media but are addicted to it. The boys also discuss a rather lengthy article about the staying power of Clubhouse. Can the thrill continue? And mostly rants this week. Joe rants about YouTube's creator newsletter while Robert rants about IBM's new spinoff and P&G's Chinese data mystery. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Well, there's a new Facebook data leak, and Facebook is blaming users instead of taking responsibility. The good news? Facebook is updating their feeds so you can have more of what you want. Will it matter? Probably not. Clubhouse, the social audio unicorn, is now speculated at being worth $4 billion dollars. Robert thinks less. Joe thinks more. Clubhouse is also adding creator payment options. Robert is still not happy. Joe raves about Topps Trading Cards announcement that they are going public via SPAC, while Robert slams on The Drum for possibly the worst article ever written. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

I know, it's hard to believe, but Episode #1 of This Old Marketing still has not sold yet as an NFT. Maybe you forgot? You can bid on it here at Opensea. The social audio battle continues this week, with Spotify buying social radio player Betty Labs, while LinkedIn is about to release their own version of Clubhouse. And guess what? Medium is pivoting again. This time, they are looking at a Substack model. Rants and raves include a rant from Joe about Substack's $650 million valuation, while Robert rants about marketers only focusing on numbers. This week's sponsor: Dialogue Ecommerce businesses are faced with intense competition to lure shoppers into their web shops. Once those shoppers have finally arrived – thanks to expensive marketing and advertising campaigns – the 'battle has just begun'. Now you need to keep your shoppers engaged and interested, providing them with a shopping experience that is personalized and, yes – fun! – in order for them to fill their cart and check out, rather than bounce away to competitors. It's a tall order, and ecommerce businesses need all the help they can get. Enter Dialogue, an AI-powered personalization platform that autonomously creates the ideal buyer journey for every shopper, in real time. Dialogue peppers the buyer's journey with highly engaging interactions. The AI engine meets the shopper in every point of the journey with personalized product recommendations and relevant content that perfectly fit the shopper's intent and browsing patterns to hit all the coveted ecommerce KPIs: increased average order value, conversion rate, time on site, and retention. Dialogue's secret sauce is its conversational and witty tone that engages shoppers and elevates their experience. https://nowdialogue.com/ ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

Bid on the first This Old Marketing NFT - Episode #1 now...proceeds going to charity. In this episode, Verizon announces the launch of a robust Yahoo Plus. All we can say is "ouch." Roku continues its Quibi-filled dominance by announcing a marketing services group that might actually work. The New York Times puts down its virtual foot on reporter side gigs. The boys wonder how that happened. And finally, MEL magazine from Dollar Shave Club goes belly up...but can you actually sell a custom magazine? I guess we will find out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Microsoft's decision to buy Discord, while Robert comments on NBC's new platform, NewsPassID and how the big three continue to steal almost all advertising dollars. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

The Oscars are back and guess what? Netflix absolutely crushed it (and yes, we called it years ago). Facebook is launched a new creator model for writers and journalists that is truly seductive, and will work for inhibiting creators from developing out their own platforms. In NFT land, Charmin has developed an NFT(P) that is sure to kill the entire NFT market (kill as in bad, not good). In rants and raves, Joe raves about Google's career certificate program launch while Robert rants about AT&T and net neutrality. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.

After a royal analysis courtesy of Robert, the boys dissect Disney's subscription program as they hit over 100 million paid subscribers worldwide. The conversation pivots to NFTs (non-fungible tokens), as they discuss Seth Godin's latest blog post about the negatives of NFTs. Robert sides with Seth. Joe thinks Robert should take a ride to the old folks home. Regardless, creator business models are changing. Oh, and as the conversation was happening, Beeple sold his NFT for over $60 million dollars. Robert raves about Zapier buying Makerpad and rants about IAB's new plans. Joe rants and raves about event companies divesting their media properties. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

To kick off the show, Joe and Robert detail their "advanced" Clubhouse experience (likes and dislikes) and why it may have legs. And did you check out the Tom Cruise deepfakes? Roku buys Nielsen's Advanced Video property, and increases its chances to corner the personalized TV advertising market. Axios details the ever-increasing amount of gambling properties getting into the content marketing game. Twitter does a Twitch and plans to launch a "Super Follows" program, which will most likely integrate into Twitter Spaces. And finally, Facebook launches a huge ad campaign against Apple's privacy restrictions. Can anyone say Philip Morris? In rants and raves, Joe discusses Wall Street Bets move to decentralization and Kings of Leon's new NFT while Robert rants about Google's privacy bomb. ------ This week's sponsor: Exceed.ai It is a known, and sad, fact that SaaS companies spend a not-so-small fortune on lead gen. CRMs are clogged with leads that, truth be told, get very little attention, usually in the form of nurture automation, a.k.a. pre-defined email sequence. The result? Few leads are converted and qualified into SQLs. Money spent goes to waste as sales team don't have the capacity to properly qualify leads resulting in cold to lukewarm leads being pushed to sales calls just to 'fill in the quota', so to speak. This time, it's time that's wasted. You know where this is going… there must be a better way... Enter Exceed, intelligent AI that autonomously and automatically nurtures and qualifies leads. Exceed digs into your CRM and starts engaging leads in two-way conversations via email, website chat and text messages. The interactions are wholly conversational and personalized based on user and historical data. Once the AI qualifies a lead it independently books a sales call with the relevant sales rep and – immediately – goes back to qualifying more leads. https://exceed.ai/ ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

In headline news, Facebook makes a deal with the Aussie press, doing exactly what we said they would do last week. At the same time, Facebook commits to $1 billion for the news industry. A generous gift or more of the same from Facebook? Macy's media network is taking off to a tune of more than $35 million. Can their business model be saved? Robert and Joe believe the opportunities are great in number. Print is back again, while the great ad tech consolidation is upon us. Rants and raves include social money creator tokens from an Oregon-based band and the worldwide web is ending as we know it. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This week Joe and Robert cover the big news that, after the passage of a media bargaining law, Facebook bans all media companies from its app. Shock abounds, with a number of sites that are "not" media companies being affected. YouTube tries to be more like TikTok and Snap and launches a number of "short-video" strategies. And news from the passion economy with the launch of Li Jin's Atelier Ventures, a $13 million fund to support content creators and content creator tech. Rants and raves include Joe's take on non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and Robert's commentary on how tech companies are taking over higher education. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

It's our annual "rip apart the Super Bowl ads" show, which may not mean much since viewership sank to a 15-year low. Twitter announced stellar earnings, including a possible subscription plan roll out. In addition, Twitter is getting aggressive with Spaces (their Clubhouse competitor). Facebook's getting into the mix as well. How much time does Clubhouse have? Will it survive? Niche media companies (like Allrecipes) are all the rage. Even the New York Times is launching a newsletter for kids. Rants and raves include how New York Times is doubling down on its email newsletter model, while the Atlantic and Salesforce partner on a Black-history project. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Twitter was abuzz this week when Hubspot announced their purchase of newsletter/small-business media company the Hustle. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. That said, everyone is very happy (except tech companies and traditional media). Clubhouse, now worth a billion dollars, says it's getting into the subscription game. Good idea? Maybe...but a better idea for Twitter. The boys go in-depth on the future of social audio. Joe is high on the idea...Robert is meh at best. Rants and raves includes Tim Cook's war on Facebook and how the Columbia Journalism Review is uber bias. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

The big news of the week was Twitter buying Revue, a Substack competitor that launches Twitter into the subscription business. What could save or kill the media business? SPACs! Media SPACs are off to a roaring start for 2021, with no end in sight. Rolling Stone does a Forbes and starts a pay-to-play "culture" council, further destroying the once-great media brand, while Clubhouse becomes a Unicorn and is the big social media craze of the year (so far). Rants and raves include Robert's rave about a Google Analytics competitor while Joe raves about wallstreetbets taking on Wall Street. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

Forbes announced the launch of their own version of Substack, a paid newsletter program driven by independent writers. As the war for content creators heats up, rumors swell around Apple launching a podcast-plus subscription program to compete with Spotify for exclusive (and walled off) audio content. And as the fight for creators continues, media companies begin to decide who owns the RSS feed as media consumption hits over 70 hours per week in the United States. Robert rants about a Martech announcement that means absolutely nothing, while Joe raves about Disney's acquisition strategy and Netflix investing $20 billion in content. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This week on This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert cover Amazon taking down Parler. Does it tell us anything about free speech? And, while that was happening, someone scraped all Parler's data. The run on music archives continues, with OneRepublic's Ryan Tedder getting a boat load of cash for songs we've never heard. How does the media rebound? By becoming human again of course. Axios launched a 10k subscription product to help brands communicate better internally. They may not have priced it high enough. And as a cake topper, over 1,000 brands unknowingly ran ads against articles promoting conspiracy theories. We are shocked. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Mr Beast's origin story, while Robert gushes over Edelman's Trust Barometer. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

In episode 253 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with Roku's possible purchase of Quibi content (yes, that Quibi). Roku, whose stock has appreciated over 1,000 percent in just a few years, is taking its playbook directly from the Netflix content model. There is a podcasting gold rush and it looks like it may turn out to be a two-company party (Amazon vs. Spotify). But the opportunity isn't just podcasting, but all audio content. 2021 may be the year of text to audio. Media and content purchases went crazy this week, with MARQUE buying Closet Full of Cash, Sykes buying The Penny Hoarder, and Wyndham Destinations buying Travel + Leisure. Is this just the start? Uh...short answer is yes. Rants and raves include a movement from monthly to quarterly subscriptions and Joe's call for another look at print media. Robert discusses the implications of the new Clubhouse social media app and the case for two spaces after a period. This week's sponsor: CXL Institute Catch past episodes and episode show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.

This Old Marketing will never be the same. This episode is taken over by Jay Acunzo, who goes inside how the podcast is made, including the early days, the process and the minimal success (and major failures) of Pulizzi and Rose. Special thanks to Jay for spending one agonizing hour with This Old Marketing. Find Jay at 3 Clips with Jay Acunzo (podcasters take you inside their best work) and Growable Shows -- Jay's course on show development and growth for marketers. ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

In this episode, the FTC sues Facebook for illegal monopolization. Thanks Captain Obvious! For decades, as newspapers declined, local news suffered. The University of Kansas found a solution, but Joe and Robert feel corporate dollars could be the real savior. KFC launches a Lifetime mini-movie starring Mario Lopez. Joe and Robert simply can't wait to see it. Substack is on fire! More and more journalists and reporters are flocking to the email subscription platform. Is this a good thing? A 2020 "year in review" finds that audio wins, paid subscription busted out, and email remains the first-party data champ. Robert raves about Bob Dylan's $300 million dollar content sale and comments on Frameworks and Flywheels. Joe rants about Polska Press being purchased by an organization owned by the state. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

In this special Turkey Day episode, Joe and Robert cover some touchy brand communication issues, including how some brands like Oreo and Snickers are having fun with Twitter's "disputed claims." In addition, the boys spend plenty of time talking about how "the vid" has accelerated major changes in content marketing and e-commerce media. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Morning Brew sells its email subscription juggernaut for $75 million, building the email newsletter model for all the follow. The New York Times digital subscription business goes boom boom, while text-to-speech is the next big thing you've never "heard" of. And Beyonce decides to form a huge content partnership with Peloton instead of being interviewed on the This Old Marketing podcast. Robert raves about Philip Kotler's new blog and Adobe acquiring WorkFront. Joe raves about Netflix starting a programmed channel and how Twitch is not just for gamers anymore. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here. Joe and Robert answer: - What will happen to the martech industry? - What big names will be bought and sold in 2021? - Who wins in content marketing...and who loses? - What does the future of in-person events look like? And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020. The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up. In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong). Robert has a new Quibi update (it's not good for Quibi) and raves (and rants) about Kraft's new commercial. Joe raves about Amazon's new print catalog and believes Juggernaut has it figured out when it comes to email newsletters. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry. News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry. And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow. Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic? The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech. And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results. In rants and raves, Joe applauds the new Accidentally Wes Anderson book, while Robert laments zero-party data. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site. LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network. In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Major media companies from around the United States are divesting their real estate properties to right-size their business models. Washington Post pushes forward into native advertising territory as traditional advertising falters. Audio is even bigger than we thought it would be, while creators at TikTok don't understand that they built their homes on rented land, and are now searching for a way out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Twinsthenewtrend and their viral video (and video strategy) behind "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins. Robert applauds High Times for buying up dispensaries in California (another Content Inc. model). This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

First, watch the Nike ad if you haven't. Required watching. TikTok was in the news this week, with a crazy deal in progress with Microsoft. In other news, Industry Dive purchased Newscred's content marketing studio business, while Digiday finds that branded content and native advertising spending is on a downward trend. Freightwaves media business has taken off and Buzzfeed now sells products (of course they do). Robert has another Quibi update and comments on Tom Goodwin's firing from Publicis. Joe loves the launch of The 19th, and comments about the closing of Folio: magazine. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right? Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Facebook was under fire this week for possibly spreading hate speech and misinformation (what's new?). Some people think Zuckerberg should be out. At the same time, TikTok may possibly be forced out of the United States as concern of Chinese data tampering persists. In other news, Lululemon buys Mirror in a content/technology deal that seemed almost too cheap to pass up. And when did Substack get so big? Could it be the next bubble? Rants and raves include a #Quibi update (doesn't look good) with Project M buying The Hard Times and Queen teaches about audience development. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Almost all physical events are canceled for 2020. This means there will be a lot of innovation in the virtual events space. This also means a huge opportunity for a large tech brand to become the Netflix for business video content. The Girl Scouts are launching a new content brand called CircleAround. Both Joe and Robert love the idea, but the plan has some major flaws. Some publisher content studios are set up to fail, while Facebook faces a serious boycott to its services. In rants and raves, Robert's Quibi update...plus a rave about Apple's privacy policy. Joe has a commentary on how he almost gave up on his not-for-profit foundation (but didn't). This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Continuing the acquisition movement, Adweek was purchased by Shamrock Capital Advisors. More to come? The boys will answer. Microsoft lays of 50 journalists, instead opting to use "computer robots." Robert reviews what journalists need to do now to protect their jobs. And Nic Carter from Coindesk details a fascinating take on perhaps, in the future, you'll be able to lay claim to your social media profile. Robert provides a valuable Quibi update and rants on yet another AdAge article. Joe spends his time remembering the great Don Schultz, may he rest in peace. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

Media company Team Whistle buys production company/agency Tiny Horse, further showing that revenue diversification is king in media and content marketing today. Joe Rogan signs with Spotify and Joe and Robert chiming in on who is the real winner. The White House is putting the smackdown on Twitter and social media regarding Twitter's labeling of the President's tweets, while Zuckerberg keeps making the wrong decisions for Facebook. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Sam Harris regarding the destruction of the advertising model and rants about how TV advertisers can't keep an agreement. Robert has a Quibi update, comments about Google's news initiative with McClatchy and raves about a roofing company doing the weather. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing Awards ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

The New York Times reports that big tech such as Facebook and Google should pay media companies reparations for lost revenue. Joe and Robert think differently. The media business continues to kill itself due to a short-sighted revenue strategy. In other news, the Financial Times launches a mix group for subscription but doesn't invite any product brands, while thought leadership is everything. Robert's rants and raves include a Quibi update and that new marketing really isn't new, while Joe discusses an interview with the IAB and the new Riot Games Launch. Sponsor: CMI's Demand Generation Summit May 19-20 ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

What do marketers do while we wait for a turnaround? Cosmo magazine details a number of key content marketing tactics that should be used by every enterprise, while Orbit Media offers 26 marketing ideas you could use now to get your house in order. Vayner Media continues an acquisition trend and there is a sale on Facebook ads. #ThisOldMarketing raves include a Quibi update, unique partnerships, and a rant on virtual college tours. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing Awards. Deadline for entry is 5/29. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.