This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

At long last, Google seems to do a 180 on its third-party cookie policy. What does this mean for marketers and advertisers? META introduces Llama 3 for developers, apparently giving away its AI technology and investment for free. Could this be for real or is it a Zuckerberg trick? And does Spotify use podcasts for loyalty first? Hits and misses include Deadpool and Heinz and Informa's purchase of the Cannes Festival. Rants and raves include British Airways and Field & Stream magazine. ----- This week's links: Google Leaves Cookie Policy Llama 3.1 Launch Spotify's Bet on Podcasts Informa Buys Cannes Heinz Partners with Deadpool Country Music Stars Buy Field & Stream British Airways Flight Video ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

This week Taboola does a big deal with Apple to sell their advertising space. Great for Taboola, but what does this message for Apple? Dax Shepard does an $80 million dollar podcast deal with Amazon. Is Amazon going after Spotify and YouTube for podcast dominance? And CMO's are under huge pressure, as stated by the latest research. Are we actually in a marketing recession? Rants and raves include VidCon Baltimore and StickerMule. ----- This week's links: Ken Griffin Buys Dinosaur Taboola to Sell Apple Ads Dax Shepard Does Deal with Amazon's Wondery CMOs Under Pressure ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Has the content creator/influencer business model gone bearish? Glamour seems to think so. We disagree. The Paramount/Skydance deal is finally done...we think. Spotify is beginning to court more video podcasts. Is it working in their fight against YouTube? And BusinessWeek has a 120-page print issue on the way. Does this mean a new opportunity in print? Wins and losses include ArtBotAI and Mohawk Chevy. Rants and raves include Trump speaking at the Bitcoin Conference and AI spammers. ----- This week's links: Power Slap and Dana White Paramount Skydance Deal Spotify's Continuing Shift to Video Influencers Aren't Getting Famous Like They Used To BusinessWeek's Print Move Mohawk Chevy on TikTok ArtBotAI Trump to Speak at Bitcoin Conference The Rise of AI Content ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special condensed episode of This Old Marketing. We cover the latest supreme court decision on social media. Good decision or more of the same? And do the brand new rules of marketing and advertising include content marketing? If content marketing becomes marketing, what happens to the discipline? Rants and raves include mxmtoon and research from Meta and Kantar. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Sends Social Media Back to States Brand New Rules of Advertising mxmtoon Research from Meta and Kantar One Million Checkboxes ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In breaking news, the Supreme Court is allowing the White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation. Did this really need to go to court in the first place? Time strikes a deal with OpenAI, while the recording industry files suit against Suno AI and Uncharted Labs citing copyright infringement. And...have we learned anything from moving text to video online? Hits and misses include the Verizon logo and the Toys R Us commercial produced with OpenAI. Rants and raves include the Olympics and AI forgetting to read the room. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Ruling on Social Media Time Strikes Deal with OpenAI Recording Industry Sues Sona We Learned the Wrong Lessons from Video Verizon's New Logo Toys R Us's AI Ad Al Michaels' AI Voice at the Olympics AI Execs Forget to Read the Room ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

While Wells Fargo is into employee surveillance, the US Surgeon General pushes for a warning on social media much like those on cigarette packages. Forbes threatens Perplexity with legal action, while TikTok debuts humanlike AI-generated avatars for advertising. Hits and misses include Oscar Mayer and American Express. Rants and raves include indie print and the Cannes Lions award winners. ----- This week's links: Wells Fargo Fires Employees Surgeon General and Social Media Forbes Threatens Perplexity TikTok Debuts AI Ad Features Oscar Mayer Bacon Ad Cannes Lions 2024 High-End Indie Print Publications ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apple's big developer conference meeting saw the launch of IOS 18 and Apple Intelligence? Apple decided to partner with OpenAI and not Google for their AI integration. Is this a big miss for Google Gemini? Plus, Adobe and Meta have big terms and conditions issues this week. Hits and misses include OpenAI, Google and Nathan's hot dogs. Rants and raves include "Infectious Generosity" by Chris Anderson and yet another AI content marketing launch. ----- This week's links: Adobe's Missed Terms Adobe's Apology META's content problems with Europe Apple Intelligence Is Launched Joey Chestnut and Nathan's Hot Dogs AI Content Marketing Agent ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Twitter/X leans into NSFW content and vertical video. Is this the sign of a turnaround or more desperate measures to stay alive? Robert and Joe take opposite sides and fight, fight, fight. Spotify's CEO makes comments about the cost of content being almost nothing. Should we care or should we boycott? Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night. Rants and raves include signals from Marcus Sheridan and Suits. ----- This week's links: Twitter's New NSFW Strategy Twitter/X Will Do Vertical Video Spotify CEO Is Out of Touch Facebook Going After Gen Z 10 Cent Beer Night - Craig Irons Four Seasons PR Win ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Big news this week as leaked Google search API documents are released into the world. The TLDR? Google has been lying about how it formulates search results. What do we know? Google manipulates content like an editor of a media company would. But does it even matter? AI scams are hitting a tipping point as we get closer to the US elections. OpenAI inks two more content deals and Elon raises money for xAI. Hits and misses include a home appliance store and Cheez-Its. Rants and raves include marketing agencies and GaryVee's commencement speech. ----- This week's links: The Google API Document Leak Celebs Getting AI Scammed Atlantic/Vox Ink Deal with OpenAI Elon Raises $6 Billion for xAI HBR Recognizes Creator Economy Home Appliance Sales and Service Marketing Agencies as Consultants GaryVee's Commencement Address ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

While the world gets distracted by Scarlett Johansson's possible case against OpenAI, the AI giant continues to do deals with media companies. This time, Open AI signed a deal with News Corp (owners of WSJ) for $250 million over five years (reported). Who's next? Trump Media's quarterly reported was more than a disaster, and yet the stock keeps going up. And we have a nice disagreement about whether Chick-fil-A should embrace or fire their internal social media influencers. Hits and misses include GaryVee's new book and Coca-Cola lens. Rants and raves include content marketing platforms and a nice rave for the Cleveland Guardians baseball team. ----- This week's links: OpenAI vs. Black Widow OpenAI Signs Deal Trump Media Report Social Influencers and what to do Coca-Cola Lens GaryVee's Book Trailer ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation. Please follow Philip on Instagram and check out the Haunted Attraction Network. Special thanks to Hubspot for sponsoring the opening reception at CEX, and to our friends at VividFront for producing this recording. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

It was another crazy week in AI news. On the heals of Google's AI announcement, OpenAI launches ChatGPT4 Omni (o). What does the new iteration mean for creators and marketers? If that wasn't enough, TikTok is upgrading its algorithm with AI. Thank you (not so much). And is the beef between Kendrick and Drake real? We think it's marketing. Hits and misses include John Mulaney's new show and Prof G's podcast strategy. Rants and raves include OEF's 100 Holes of Golf model and more on MarTech cuts. This week's links: OpenAI Releases Omni TikTok Is Testing AI in Algo The Drake/Kendrick Beef John Mulaney's New Show Prof G Markets Podcast OEF's 100 Holes of Golf MarTech Spending Falls This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In the latest social media soap opera, TikTok has sued the US Government over its potential "ban," bringing out the unconstitutional card. Is this just a stalling tactic? Yes...and it's working. More money is flowing into the creator economy after big product successes from MrBeast and Logan Paul. But will the new algo changes be the end of big content creators? And Hollywood continues to lack standards with AI. Is it simply too late? Hits and misses include CEX and Joe Biden. Rants and raves include Instagram and Meta. This week's links: TikTok Sues the US Government MrBeast and Logal Paul Lead Creator Movement Hollywood and AI 2024 Marketing Technology Landscape Meta to Provide Advertisers with Auto Images Instagram on Algo Change This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Joe and Robert do a deep dive into their CEX presentations...Joe's on the new business model for content creators and Robert's on the marketing MBA. In the news, Instagram launches a new program that will highlight new content creators. They make it sound amazing. The problem is that this will hurt full-time content creators and content marketers. Hits this week include Adidas and Phish (at the Sphere). Rants and raves include the trouble with books and third-party cookies. This week's links: Instagram and Twitch Roll Out New Algos Amazon's Killer Quarterly Numbers Adidas to Overinvest in Marketing Phish at the Sphere No One Buys Books Yes, People Still Buy Books Google's Cookie Delay This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In a whirlwind week on The Hill, a TikTok ultimatum (sell or be banned) passed the House, the Senate and was quickly signed by the President. What happens now? META's quarterly results were outstanding...and then the stock dropped 20 percent. What happened? Taylor Swift does her own deal with TikTok, making the executive team at UMG furious. Is this something for creators and marketers to follow? Hits and misses include Cedar Point and Google. Rants and raves include a big rant against Telsa marketing and an important reminder social media from Jay Clouse. This week's links: Biden Signs Bill Against TikTok TikTok's Creator Economy Stares Into the Abyss META Announces Earnings...Stock Sinks Taylor Swift Goes Direct with TikTok Google Fires Protesters Cedar Point's Content Creators Tesla's No Marketing Move Jay Clouse on Social Media This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

John Deere's search for a new social media creator leads to an important conversation - are corporate social media handles dead? Faced with possibly paying for the news, Google starts removing links to California news sites for some users. And the winner for the dumb move of the year goes to... The VC market for creator startups is up the the first time in multiple quarters, while a group of TikTok influencers send a nasty gram to Joe Biden. Hits and misses include Dove and AI and Caitlin Clark on SNL. Rants and raves include gaming Spotify and the Chief Marketing Officer tenure. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Google Won't Pay for News John Deere Hunts for Chief Tractor Officer Creator Startups and VCs TikTok Influencers Send Letter to Joe Biden Dove and AI SNL and Caitlin Clark CMO Tenures Spotify and SEO This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Could marketers finally be waking up to the advantages of direct print? The relaunch of some high-profile magazines, and the launch of Robinhood's new print magazine leads our discussion. In other news, Alphabet is reportedly looking at acquiring Hubspot and a new privacy bill is being drafted in Congress. And...is synthetic AI training data setting us up for disaster? Hits and misses include Jack Conte and Suno.ai. Rants and raves include creators Kelsey Russell and Andrew Huberman. And Joe's new book is out...get a copy here: https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/content-entrepreneur/ This week's links: Women's NCAA Ratings Bonanza Google/Hubspot Deal New Privacy Bill Nylon Re-launches in Print Robinhood Creates Media Arm Tech Giants and AI Training Data Jack Conte's SXSW Presentation - The Death of the Follower Kelsey Russell and Print Newspapers Crisis Communications and Alex Huberman This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Robert and Joe run through the business books that have made the most impact on their lives and careers. They include: Marketing Management – Philip Kotler Discovery Driven Growth – Rita Gunther McGrath Different – Youngme Moon How Will You Measure Your Life – Clayton Christensen Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance – Robert Pirsig Think & Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein IMC: Integrated Marketing Communication - Don Schultz David & Goliath - Malcolm Gladwell This week's sponsor: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

News this week as Florida governor Ron DeSantis signs a law restricting social media access for children. Is this the first step to full-on social media verification or just another fruitless attempt to tell people how to parent? Trump's Truth Social goes public and hits meme stock territory. How long with the party last? Spotify adds video learning to its platform. Is YouTube in Spotify's sights? And print is back baby! Hits and misses include a Ryan's World movie and Comscore. Rants and raves include rants against Accenture and Meta's Threads. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Florida Age-Gating Law Trump's Truth Social Meme Stock Truth Social's Revenue Problem Spotify Adds Video Learning Print On the Move Pew Research on Print Comscore Deal Ryan's World Movie Accenture and Adobe AI Release This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities. If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special episode #420, Joe and Robert dissect the upcoming Apple/Google deal for AI and the iPhone. Is this a sign of weakness for Apple or are they just buying time? OpenAI's chatbot store is filling up with spam. Are you surprised? And a group of publishing experts launch Authors Equity to give more rights back to authors. Uh, we don't think so. Hits and misses include Liquid Death and Coca-Cola. Rants and raves includes a full overview of the TikTok banning bill and why it's harder to become a creator today. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Don Lemon Pivot Interview Apple and Google to Partner on AI OpenAI Spam New Publishing Model Isn't Great It's Harder to Become a Creator Today No TikTok Bill This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities. If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

We are in post-social media and, now, a post-search environment. The next 12 months are critical to start getting your content assets in order for the AI Content wave. The House passes a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. Uh, we told you so. But does it really matter? Google's Gemini AI refuses to answer political questions (among other things). This leads to a conversation on how AI Truth is coordinated and what we can do about it. MrBeast tells everyone to slow down a bit...that less content is more. Thank you sir! And OpenAI starts doing publisher deals. Hello Google circa 2002. Hits and misses include Kate Middleton and Da'Vine Joy Randolph. Rants and raves include Kara Swisher's new book (rant) and the quote by Sam Altman heard round the world. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: TikTok House Ban Google Gemini Is Mum on Elections MrBeast Slows Down OpenAI Publisher Deals Sam Altman and 95 Percent Quote Da'Vine's Oscar Speech This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities. If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ----- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert review their presentations from Social Media Marketing World 2024. Robert shares his insights, including: The Value of Relationships The Product Content Mindset The Point of View Architecture The Trust Exercise - Audit Your Experiences Joe runs through his secrets for content marketing success, including: Building the Base The Content Tilt Acquiring Content Assets Creators over Content Pillar Content Projects The NEW Print Opportunity Email, Email, Email The Content Revenue Model For the full content marketing revenue model, check out our book, Killing Marketing. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. ------ This week's sponsor: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Another media company bites the dust. This time it's the once-darling Vice Media. Is the news media business model broken or is there something else at work here? A big supreme court case involving social media moderation is being reviewed by SCOTUS. Could it happen? We'll see this summer. Is Google on death row? It's clear the product is getting worse. Will ChatGPT come to the rescue? And Tyler Perry shelves his studio project because of Sora. Hits and misses include Bitcoin and Air Canada. Rants and raves involve the fractional CMO and a Florida law banning social media usage for youngsters. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Supreme Court Social Media Case Vice Media Shutting Down Is Google Search Dying? Tyler Perry Shelves Studio Air Canada Is Stupid The Fractional CMO Florida Lawmakers Pass Social Law ------ This week's sponsor: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

It's been a crazy two weeks for artificial intelligence. OpenAI officially launched Sora, the text-to-video tool. At the same time, Google launched their AI-version of Gemini inside workplace. Is podcasting really a racket? Maybe it's just more of the same. Hits and misses include Paramount's bad timing and Nvidia's HUGE quarter. Rants and raves includes the NYTime's ad tool and Billy Joel's new AI video. This week's links: Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. OpenAI Launches Sora Google Launches Gemini The Podcast Business is a Racket Paramount Lays off 800 Nvidia Booms with AI NYTimes AI Ad Tool Billy Joel's New AI Video ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special Blossom episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the insights and secrets into creating a profitable content brand, for both content marketing and content creator goals. Topics discussed include: How to truly differentiate and grow an audience How to create a content tilt Do you build or buy? Focus on creator, brand or content brand? and many more content marketing insights This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys discuss Joe Rogan's new content deal with Spotify. Is this the future of podcast and YouTube deals, or is this just for the one percenters? Also, how should a brand approach this kind of deal? Meta will label AI images across all their properties. Is this just a point in time or will it have lasting impact? In addition, Meta cut off Facebook to developers. Like we didn't see that coming. In hits and misses, Robert praises L'Oreal and misses on Taylor and the right. Joe hits on Spotify and audiobooks, and misses on Grant Cardone's new magazine. Rants and raves include Billy Joel and B2B companies lack of big ideas. This week's links: Discount to CEX 2024 - Use Coupon Code "TOM" Joe Rogan Deal with Spotify Is Content Exclusivity Over? Meta to Label AI Images Facebook Cuts Out Developers L'Oreal Hits Big Taylor Swift Outrage Billy Joel Writes Again ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Big tech CEOs ran to Washington to explain why they haven't protected US children. YouTube and TikTok continue to dominate and grow in profit and usage. Is it imperative that all companies market on these channels today? And George Carlin and Taylor Swift deepfakes dominate the news. Is there anything we can do about them or have we unleashed Pandora's box. Rants and raves include small audience wins and a new place for the chief marketing officer. This week's links: Elmo's Wellness Check Social Media Execs Explain Behavior to Congress YouTube Revenues Soar TikTok Usage Way Up George Carlin Lawsuit X Blocks Taylor Swift Search UPS Scraps CEO TikTok Usage Up with Minors The State of the Creator Economy [Report] ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com.q Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Netflix Q4 earnings show how far the company is ahead in the streaming wars...plus...their licensing deal with WWE vaults them into a live-events leadership position. So, what's next and what can we learn from their strategy? Sports Illustrated is "mostly" dead. Here's a big opportunity for a brand like Nike or Under Armour to make a content marketing buy. Why isn't this happening more often? And does the creator economy need a creators' union? The boys say no. Rants and raves include Google finally killing off the cookie, while MrBeast goes to China. This week's links: Netflix Rocks Earnings SI Almost Dead Do We Need a Creators' Union? G/O Media In Trouble Google Finally Killing Cookies MrBeast Goes to China B.J. Novak Headlining Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) 2024 ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com.q Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Big news in media and marketing as Informa purchases a majority stake in TechTarget. Is their strategy of "focused scaling" correct for B2B? Apple overhauls their podcast download system, sending podcast leaders into a panic over revised download numbers. Ah...rented land. And OpenAI launches Chat GPTeams. Rants and raves include Reddit's court victory over WallStreetBets and a big marketing mistake at Solo brands. This week's links: TechTarget x Informa The Incredible Shrinking Podcast So Much Media Consumption that's Wrong OpenAI Debuts Teams Reddit Wins Lawsuit Solo Brands Names New CEO WEBINAR: Unlocking the Path to Generative AI (this Thursday) ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

If you don't get the title, stay until the end. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss what's happening at CES, including the role of the creator/influencer inside a media company. Netflix, Instagram and Amazon all make major streaming cutbacks. Is this just "right sizing" the business, or is everyone trying to figure out how to compete with TikTok? In rants and raves, it's the end of the third-party cookie on Google, and a new sports bar opens with access to sports from women athletes only. This week's links: CES 2024 Kicks Off What Happens When the Creator Goes Crazy? Netflix Cuts Over 100 Shows CNBC to Start Courses Third-Party Cookies The Sports Bra A Great Kickstarter Example The True Crime Podcast from Robert Riggs ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Joe and Robert are back from a crazy 2023 with thoughts of Elon and crowdiness. In this episode, Steamboat Willie is released from its copyright shackles. Is there an opportunity for brands in out-of-date content? Fidelity lowers X's valuation even more. Is a turnaround to come? Time appoints a new Chief Events Officer in a clear signal that there is a bull market for in-person events. In rants and raves, Joe comments on the right-sizing of creator businesses, while Robert pontificates on clickbait. This week's links: Mickey Mouse Public Domain Elon's X Gets Another Valuation Drop Time Appoints Chief Events Officer Creators Are Downsizing Advertisers and Clickbait This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Joe and Robert take time out of their regular programming to talk about key marketing career challenges and how they overcame them. In addition, the boys do a speed round on content marketing pet peeves. This week's links: Sahil Bloom's Annual Review This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

It's here! The annual episode where Robert and Joe predict everything that will not go right in the content marketing and media world. This year, the boys predict: A social media collapse - TikTok and YouTube see big surges as the waves of the strike Tsunami hit. AI goes mainstream and actually starts to earn its keep – but NOT in creating externally focused content but rather conversational Advertising and behind the scenes marketing work. Brands go "all in" on owned media - especially video. Local news and journalism make a big comeback. At least three, major brands launch new, shiny print publications and send them through the post. X will see a huge advertising turnaround (due to the fact that most everyone left). More eyeballs for less dollars. Newsletters will continue their hot stream, led by creator referral networks, and you'll see more creators stop producing their lagging podcasts. More AI-driven news networks continue to launch, followed by an AI running for president in 2028. This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The latest social media usage results by Pew are out and...surprise, surprise...almost half of all teenagers are on social media "literally all the time." It seems that short-form videos are ruling the day on nearly all platforms. Mega-publisher Axel Springer does a deal with ChatGPT to include news. What does this mean for media companies and the future of search? And everything you know about podcasts might actually be wrong. Rants and raves include permissions on Dropbox and Magna/OpenAP doing a deal. This week's links: Axel Springer Deals with OpenAI Pew Research on Teen Social Media Usage Everything You Know about Podcasts Is Wrong Sounds Profitable Podcast Research Spotify and Audiobook Streaming Dropbox and Third-Party AI How Anxiety Became Content Magna and OpenAP Data Deal This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Google makes their big AI announcement regarding Google Gemini. Can the new AI suite save Google's stalling search business? Is purpose-driven content dead after failures by Bud Light and Target? Joe is skeptical but Robert thinks there is a big opportunity. Spotify announces some big layoffs and a strategic change, while the NCAA might be hiring students in the very near future. Rants and raves include TikTok shopping and a new model for digital ad revenue. This week's links: Google's Gemini Announced Brand Backlash Spotify's Strategic Changes NCAA and NIL Digital Ad Revenue's Up This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Elon Musk's remarks at the recent Dealbook conference show (inconclusive) evidence that he is actually trying to lower X's valuation to such a point to where he can buy the company back (from debtors) at pennies on the dollar. Synthetic (AI) content is on the rise. Google is having major problems with it, and some (experts) say that over 90 percent of all content will be AI generated by 2026. And finally, should creators (and marketers) start thinking about protecting their digital likeness? The boys say yes. Rants and raves include an interesting move by Weibo and Google paying off publishers. This week's links: Joe's Studio Setup Details Here Elon says "Go F' Yourself" The Rapid Rise of Synthetic Content How Creators Own Their Digital Likeness Weibo and Anonymous Creators Google's Publisher Group Shutting Down This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Note: This was recorded before Sam Altman was reinstated at OpenAI. Go figure! Joe and Robert go indepth on the soap opera that is OpenAI, and the ramifications on marketers and content creators. X sees another exodus of advertisers. Is this the end of the road for the former blue bird? And TikTok is now used at a key news source for 30 percent of young adults. Should we be scared? Rants and raves include ideas to save local journalism and Buzzfeed's new business model. This week's links: Paul Roetzer's AI Podcast about the History of OpenAI Sam Altman Returns to OpenAI (added link) Sam Altman Joins Microsoft Why OpenAI Blew Up X Responds to Advertisers Jumping Ship Media Matters Grills Elon and X Crisis in Local News BuzzFeed Shifts Business Model This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The new actors' agreement and Meta's newly released guide for political advertisements tell us one big thing - AI content will begin to flourish. Get ready for massive process and job changes in the very near future directly because of these two announcements. In other news, YouTube has ad blockers going crazy with their new AI-sniffer tools. Have we seen the end of ad blockers? In rants and raves, Joe raves about SNAP's CEO and rants about the new ESPN Bet. Robert raves about Mark Ritson's US marketer call-to-arms. This week's links: The New Actors' Agreement OpenAI Announces New Agents Program Meta to Require AI Disclosures YouTube and Ad Blockers A Challenge to US Marketers This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A very special episode where Joe and Robert review their content and marketing predictions from the previous year. Do they make the grade? You need to judge for yourself. TikTok will be banned. Netflix will merge with another streaming platform. LinkedIn will rise to the top. First party data will rule. AI dominates. Google uses AI detector. Content acquisitions on the rise. Recession will be localized to tech only. Cryptopunks and Bored Apes double. Apple will introduce a headset. This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special 400th episode of This Old Marketing. And yes, the boys are getting up there! Joe and Robert discuss AI announcements by the US President and Microsoft (launching of Copilot), as well as Google integrating AI into search. For AI to work well, it needs to be working from a correct set of information. Is that the case or should we be worried? Elon holds a company meeting and talks about X doing almost everything. It's too bad that Apple and Google have a head start in this area. And Disney buys out the rest of Hulu. Good thing? Regardless, Disney is having operational challenges. Rants and raves include Joe's new website, IP addresses and Omnicom buying Flywheel. This week's links: Biden Signs AI Order Microsoft Launches Copilot Elon's Company Meeting about the Everything App Disney to Buy Rest of Hulu What the Heck is Disney's Problem? Joe Pulizzi's Website IP Addresses Aren't the Answer Omnicom Buys Flywheel This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Breaking news as X year-over-year numbers plummet. Can the Elon-run social media site recover? Meta, and more specifically Instagram, is being sued by 33 states. The charge? That the company repeatedly misled the public about the dangers of being on their platform. Joe and Robert discuss the sad truth: Meta puts profits (and addiction) ahead of the future of America. Done and done. And finally, new research suggests that trust in media is at an all-time low (and getting worse by the minute). But there is an opportunity. Rants and raves include the B2B creator, TikTok launches an event, and new DC funding for local news. This week's links: X Usage Plummets Meta Instagram Being Sued Media Confidence in the US at a Low DC Lawmakers Introduce Local News Bill Marketing Needs More Marketing The B2B Creator Opportunity TikTok Events OEF Night at the Races This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

This week the all-knowing Elon announced their "everyone gets charged a dollar" plan. Musk made this sound like it was a "bots" move. Joe and Robert know it's something completely different. Tucker Carlson makes his well-telegraphed move to media company (we called this). What can creators and marketers learn from the move? And marketers are as tense as ever. Is this temporary or just stating the obvious? Rants and raves include a bit of Shakespeare, following by Google and Taylor Swift. This week's links: X Charges One Dollar Tucker Carlson Media Company Marketers Going Mental Google's New Gating Move OEF Night at the Races This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys ramp up the show talking about Kendall Jenner's new AI chatbot Billie, brought to you by Meta. Scary? Yes. More to come? Absolutely. Social media sites have been making changes for years that are hurting traffic to media and brand sites. The latest data will bring chills to your web analytics manager. At the same time, X is making some ridiculous moves, including rolling out a new "advertising" program, discouraging links in posts, and barring Linda Yaccarino from any more speaking events. And finally, is Ryan Reynolds responsible for the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce hookup? Find out the truth today. Rants and raves include more on the writers' and actor's strike and a fresh take from Joe on the movie "Dumb Money". This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. ----- This episode is sponsored by Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ----- This week's links: The Kendall Jenner Chatbot Social Media Referrals Going to the Dumpster X Rolls Out New Ad Format Musk Hates Outside Links X CEO Out at Conferences Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift Writers' and Actors' Strike Update Dumb Money Soundtrack Eddie Bauer Changes Logo Robert Rose Book Deal ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys are back in real-time talking all things X, Google's podcast moves, and how to drive subscriptions. X CEO Linda Yaccarino does the company no favors with her interview at Vox's CODE conference. Ads are down. Usage is down. The only thing that can save X might be Linda's couch pants. Google podcasts is no more. Alphabet decides to cancel the podcast player and move resources over to YouTube. Good move? And new research is out about who exactly is paying for subscriptions these days. What works and what doesn't? Rants and raves include US student debt and the end of the writers' strike. This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you're freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers. Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today. This week's links: Linda Yaccarino at CODE conference Google Podcasts All Dead YouTube Launches Subscriber Tools Paying for News Research MrBeast Spends $120 million on Videos US Student Debt Problems Writers' Strike Details ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special Content Marketing World week episode where Joe and Robert break down their talks from the big event. Robert goes indepth on content marketing's evolution into, just, marketing. Or is it vice versa? Joe goes through 20+ points about how a content marketer can make the transition to full-time content creator (as a business). The boys also entertain a question from Paris (in a van) from Australia. Finally...Joe and Robert make a big announcement. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Can anyone save the media business? Joe and Robert discuss the downfall of big media and where the opportunities are for content marketers and creators. Elon is pivoting X/Twitter to subscription only. Incredibly smart or inherently stupid? Scribe Media is not dead (as reported). Good news? And Google plays with politics and Taylor Swift. Rants and raves include Robert's new book (link below) and how we need to buy differently from creators. This week's links: Elon Musk and Subscription Hollywood Giants Slim Down Scribe Is Alive Google to Require AI Disclosure Taylor Swift's Google Easter Egg Robert's Book Content Marketing Strategy ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Is Quibi finally dead? Maybe...but the bigger issue is the "right sizing" of the streaming business as a whole. Valuations and investment continue to go lower. The DOJ's trial against Google begins this week. Will anything stand or will Google continue to shake the regulators? And Amazon decides to kill their periodicals business, putting more media companies and creators out of business. Who's at fault? Rants and raves include the greatest pass in Cleveland history, the Apple iPhone 15 announcement, and CAA selling to Pinault. ----- This episode is sponsored by Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard's a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount. ----- This week's links: Quibi Dies a Final Death The DOJ Case Against Google Amazon Kills the Periodical Greatest Pass in Cleveland History Apple Carbon Neutral Video CAA Sells Majority Stake ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Disney, NY Times and CNN are among dozens of major media companies blocking access to ChatGPT. Is this the right move or completely short sighted? Joe and Robert think the latter. At the same time, OpenAI launches their new enterprise product. And Gannett (and others) backtracks on their usage of automated news writing. Is this the right decision? Rants and raves include LinkedIn's new verification partnership with Clear and Charter's problem with Disney. This week's links: ChatGPT Blocked by Media Companies ChatGPT Enterprise Launches Gannett and Others Pull AI Writing LinkedIn Verification Disney/Charter Bundle ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A very special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert take questions from LinkedIn. The boys answer such questions as: Which marketing trend died out faster than expected, and which one will come back? Which company/organization is doing content best today? Other than AI, what the next thing in content marketing? If you had to start over from scratch - no network, connections, favors, etc... and you had $10K to build a cash flow positive business making six figures within one year, what would you do and how would you do it? If you weren't on your own - Which business would you go to work for, and why? Thanks to everyone who submitted questions. You can see all the LinkedIn questions here. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The marketing and advertising recession continues on per a WPP earnings report. Is there an end in site? Will 2024 be better? The boys discuss. Yuga Labs fights with Opensea about crypto revenues. Who is right? And...will crypto winter ever end? Threads web version is "finally" here. Is it too little too late? And finally, Elon scraps blocking in Twitter X. Does it really matter anymore? Rants and raves include the ongoing writers' strike saga and the musical, Six. This week's links: WPP Lowers Guidance Bored Ape Fights with Opensea Threads On the Web Musk Removes X/Twitter Blocking Writers Strike Update Six: The Musical ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.