This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

In this episode number 84 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss two major association initiatives - one in Germany and one in Asia - around content marketing. Both associations have also taken the name "content marketing", which Joe thinks is a pretty big deal. In addition, Article Bunny launches and the boys talk about new research around the practice of native advertising. And finally, Facebook changes its algorithm again...this time around TTR or total time reading. Rants and raves include a bit of politics and a lession from media business models. This week's TOM: Game Theory. This week's story links: The New Content Marketing Forum and Association in Asia http://www.forum-corporate-publishing.com/index.php/de/news/item/1235-neuer-name-neue-positionierung-aus-fcp-wird-content-marketing-forum paired with... http://www.marketing-interactive.com/regional-content-marketing-association-acma-launches/ Article Bunny Launches https://www.techinasia.com/articlebunny-uber-content-marketing/ Attitudes Toward Branded and Sponsored Content http://www.digitalnewsreport.org/essays/2015/attitudes-to-advertising/ Facebook now Taking TIME into account http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2015/06/news-feed-fyi-taking-into-account-time-spent-on-stories/ Sponsor Content: The Role of Webinars in the Buyers' Journey:http://gotowebinar.com/CMI RANTS/RAVES Joe on Can Publishers Innovate a Broken Business Model?http://www.innovationexcellence.com/blog/2015/06/21/can-publishers-innovate-a-broken-business-model/ Robert on Airport Storytelling:http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/17/415198926/boy-who-lost-stuffed-tiger-at-airport-finds-tiger-stayed-very-busy This Old Marketing: Game Theoryhttps://www.youtube.com/user/MatthewPatrick13

In this episode number 83 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Twitter's CEO leaving the nest, and the opportunities that remain with Twitter as a broadcasting platform. After discussing digital's "third wave," the boys chat about the Brad Pitt/Netflix deal and why content marketing is in its golden age. In addition, Medium's recent announcement made Joe and Robert obsess about email all over again. Rants and raves include hating on content marketing and patience in publishing. This week's TOM example - brewingtv.com. This week's story links: Twitter CEO Calls It Quits:http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/11/technology/twitter-ceo-dick-costolo-quits/ The Evolution of Twitter:http://techandscience.com/techblog/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=5598 Digital's Third Wave:http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/digital-s-wave-coming-miss-ride/298923/ Netflix Distribution Deal a Game Changer:http://m.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/netflix-distribution-deal-game-changer-article-1.2250965 Medium Budget Cuts and Changes:http://www.businessinsider.com/medium-budget-cuts-and-restructuring-2015-6?op=1 Medium Introduces Letters:https://medium.com/the-story/introducing-letters-f105abb6734f Sponsor Content: The Role of Webinars in the Buyers' Journey:http://gotowebinar.com/CMI RANTS/RAVES Robert on Content Marketing Haters:http://www.cio.com/article/2934881/marketing/the-art-of-storytelling-in-the-age-of-content-marketing.html Joe on Patience in Publishing:http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/06/09/mattress-startup-casper-launches-newsy-website.html This Old Marketing:http://brewingtv.com/

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go in-depth into Facebook and instant articles, paired with the Apple announcement on launching a news reader platform. Honda shows us that a good idea can go wrong without a little patience, and the Onion handles sponsored content like a pro. This week's raves include creative job postings and how a 12-year-old launched a media empire. The #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: HowToCookThat.net. This week's story links: Facebook's Deal with Publishers:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/03/facebooks-deal-with-publishers-a-stark-reminder-of-digital-ad-gulf/ A Facebook Love Story:http://seekingalpha.com/article/3241286-facebook-content-creation-content-marketing-growthhacking-and-inbound-marketing?app=1&auth_param=3ir5v:1an949b:8afbeb89dfab16a4bf9b29b79a7e90a1&uprof=45 Apple's News App Announcement:http://www.wired.com/2015/06/apple-builds-content-business-news-app/ Honda Holds Off on Being a Media Company:http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/06/03/honda-pumps-the-brakes-on-trying-to-become-a-media-company/ The Onion Handles Sponsored Content:http://adage.com/article/media/onion-people-read-sponsored-content/298745/ Publishers and eCommerce:http://wwd.com/media-news/direct-internet-catalogue/magazines-ecommerce-style-lucky-10139553-10139553/ Sponsor Content: The Role of Webinars in the Buyer's Journey - http://www.gotowebinar.com/CMI RAVESJoe on the 12-Year-Old Media Mogul:http://www.businessinsider.com/how-emerson-spartz-built-a-meme-empire-2015-6 Robert on Creative Jobs Post:http://www.tweetmyjobs.com/ghirardelli-jobs-ghirardelli-chocolate-ambassador-15655315 This Old Marketing:https://www.howtocookthat.net

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert inadvertantly themed this rendition the "Content Inc." episode. After Joe discusses the new platform launch, the boys dig into Mary Meeker's annual trends report. Guess what? Your buyers are now millennials. And there are quite a few opportunities just right for you (yes, you!). After a little discussion of how startups can use content marketing, Robert lays out Google's new "Phantom" update, and why content marketing and native advertising are joined but separate. Raves include Austin City Limits and Travelers Insurance. This week's TOM example of the week: Band-Aid.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest purchase for Content Marketing Institute, the UK-based show, Content Marketing Show. Verizon's purchase of AOL leads to discussion around what value there is in AOL's many content brands and Spotify decides to add both videos and podcasts. Then the boys rant away at two particular articles that elaborate on the problems content marketers face - leading to the idea that brands have real opportunities when publishers cut back too much. Official rant and raves include a Purina platform called Puppyhood. This week's TOM example of the week: Fresh Fork Market.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss two large transactions in the content marketing technology space: Percolate and Kapost. Then the boys move right along to the official launch of Facebook News. Is this the end of times for publishers or the stairway to heaven? After discussing whether brands could really create a "Mad Men" type show, Joe and Robert rant and rave about Adobe's new audio white papers, as well as a huge media purchase in the surfing industry. This week's TOM example: Poor Richard's Almanack.

In this Mother's Day episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the future of advertising with a content marketing tilt. After some odd predictions, the boys discuss a research study on the ROI of content marketing versus native advertising. In addition, PNR discusses the importance of the New York Times hitting one million digital subscribers. Rants and raves include Glossier and the importance of words. This week's TOM example: Good Old Days magazine.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go into detail on why digital marketers are still not spending enough on digital (or are they?). In addition, the boys talk about which content we need to target different generations and whether content companies are media companies, technology companies...or both. This episode also includes a short take on Google's launch into content discovery. Rants and raves include a draft pick from USC and Dove's "Real Beauty". This week's TOM example: NFL Films.

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss research that Facebook organic reach is dipping even more, and additional research that states influencer marketing is on the rise (but wait for the rant on this one). The boys also discuss why new media companies focus on advertising, and how the media model of the future will be all about selling products and services. After roasting the WSJ (again) for a misleading blog post, rants and raves include Emmy nods for content marketing. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: Merrill Lynch.

In this the 75th anniversary of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert celebrate +mobilegeddon by discussing what's going to change with content marketing in 2015. In addition, a popular association changes its guidelines on native advertising, and Buzzfeed kills three articles once they found out advertisers were unhappy with them. Rants and raves include a flawed take on marketing automation and the future of Time Inc. This week's TOM example: the Caslon Company.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the LinkedIn purchase of lynda.com and what it means for LinkedIn and the content marketing industry. In addition, the boys cover the difference between content and advertising, and if it really matters, as well as an indepth discussion about how to measure content programs. Rants and raves include Disney and how content marketing could save the world. This week's TOM example: Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

In this episode of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the finer points of what content marketing really is and how it's defined. The boys go on and banter about Google's deadline for mobile-friendly sites, as well as comment on how the advertising industry is, like it or not, actually booming. Rants and raves include Madmen and the death of publishing. This week's TOM: Robert Half.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the movement by major publishers to create content "inside" Facebook's walls. Does this mean that the future of the web could be dominated by Facebook? In addition, the boys discuss whether "content blindness" is actually a thing, review a research study that says digital natives actually prefer print, and preview Airbnb's publishing strategy. Rants and raves include a TechCrunch article that goes beyond what's real. This week's TOM example of the week: Pepsodent and Bob Hope.

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss AOL founder Steve Case's take on the third era of the Internet (yes, this is such a thing). In addition, the boys ponder whether or not LEGO went off the rails with their "beauty tips for girls" section in LEGO Club Magazine. Then, more about PR's role in content marketing and a quick look at revenue models for podcasts. Rants and raves include Starbucks and IDG. This week's TOM example of the week: Back Country.

In this very special rant episode, Joe and Robert discuss the Starbucks move into publishing with their hire of a Washington Post editor. In addition, the boys rant about Nokia launching a content marketing "campaign" with Wired, and then rant a little more about the term "branded content". Raves include discussion about a new formula to measure content marketing, and why it might be necessary to get a new name for podcasting. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Public Accountant Magazine.

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the big Apple announcement and why Robert doesn't have an iWatch yet. Then, onto Google plus. Is it dead? Is it alive? Joe says 4 out of 10 (whatever that means). In addition, the boys discuss the New York Times going Hollywood with native advertising, and why PR is the new content marketing (sort of). Rants and raves include why marketers can't measure and how to get your long-form articles to go viral. This week's TOM example of the week: RCA Records and Kellogg's.

In the episode of PNR (dubbed the "beautiful episode"), Joe and Robert discuss Uber's new magazine launch to drivers as well as an interesting article about the negativity surrounding ghostwriting. In addition, the boys discuss the confusion in the media landscape, how bad native advertising can get, and how Dove's move wasn't very beautiful. Raves include airline safety and nifty titles. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Land's End and Apostraphe.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss LinkedIn's latest marketing solutions launch, and ponder the number of companies LinkedIn will buy over the next year. In addition, the boys discuss Seth Godin's take on content marketing, what innovative media companies are doing to cut through the clutter, and how the New York Times is launching a new content product. Rants and raves include People magazine and how LEGO stole the Oscars. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Cleveland Clinic's Health Hub.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the new McKinsey report, which sounds eerily similar to Robert's upcoming book. Also in the news this week is the rising focus on content promotion and SEO, APN makes a big content marketing move, and Kraft and Meredith start something shiney. Rants and raves include the Obama selfie stick and Barney's print magazine launch. This week's TOM example of the week: The start of the comic book industry.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert make it a point to mention that John Cleese is keynoting at Content Marketing World 2015. After much celebration, the boys discuss the FCC's decision on Net Neutrality, some research on how B2B marketers are still talking about themselves too much, and the IAB publishing native advertising guidelines. Rants and raves include Coca-Cola, Target and Gawker. This week's TOM example is KISS.

In this post Super Bowl episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss research on how almost no Super Bowl advertisers added calls-to-action of any kind to their $4.5 million dollar ads. SnapChat launched a new content series (which, of course, will disappear after 24 hours) and Conde Nast is paying journalists to create content for brands (as well as work a day job). Rants and raves include an indepth look at what makes a great content marketer from Joe and Robert rants and raves about Nationwide's Super Bowl ad (that everyone hated but Robert). This week's TOM example: Dell's Corporate Responsibility Report.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss YouTube's Super Bowl halftime play, the implications for brands, and why competition will heat up next year. In addition, the boys discuss a formula for budgeting native advertising plays and why LinkedIn is launching a new internal communication tools. Rants and raves include CMS troubles and a Jon Favreau chat. This week's TOM example of the week: Jaeger's clothing.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the details of the New York Times/Google Native Advertising program (if that's what you call it). Next, the boys ramble on about the role of sales and marketing. Are they still far apart? Are they getting closer? No worries there, because the boys cheer up about news on the fall of Google Glass and something Facebook is launching called Facebook Work (or Facework, for short). Rants and raves include Newcastle's Super Bowl ad bid and clarification on the term, native advertising. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: WestJet's Above & Beyond.

This week was a sad week in PNR history, with the Cowboys losing and The LEGO Movie not winning a Golden Globe. But Joe and Robert persist regardless. In this week's episode, Joe and Robert talk about whether B2B content marketing is a failure, and if FTC will enact regulations regarding native advertising. In addition, the boys discuss the marketing technology landscape and why Twitter's play into video is going to be huge. Rants and raves include a super smart post from Medium's Ev Williams and the McDonald's "signs" program. The #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: Merck Manuals.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss and dissect nine trends from the Wall Street Journal, as well as why Fred Wilson believes the innovation in social media is dead. In addition, the boys discuss subscriber burn in YouTube, Forbes magazine's gift to AT&T, and what authenticity really means. Rants and raves include #MayhemSale from Allstate and an amazing interview from Marriott on their content marketing strategy. This week's TOM example: Johnson & Johnson.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert look into the future with their 2015 content marketing predictions, which include some surprising channel focuses, communication issues with the C-Level, M&A activity and an overt focus on mobile (which could be a problem). In addition, the boys talk about the "Year in Review" Facebook disaster, as well as an amazing overview of the opportunities in podcasting. Rants and raves include an IKEA holiday commercial and the Neil Degrasse Tyson tweets. This week's TOM example: Tealium's Golden Book series.

In this holiday episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the difference between a media company and a technology company. The boys then discuss the problems at Google, and what Verizon should have done with SugarString instead of stopping the program. Joe and Robert were all raves this episode, with kudos to George Clooney and some excellent storytelling from John Lewis and Coca-Cola. This week's TOM example: Car Talk.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the latest changes in and around the Facebook feed, as well as some research on how most B2B content is barely above par. In addition, the boys discuss a lengthy article about the future of native advertising, as well as the heaps of money in and around marketing technology today. Rants and raves include the latest Sony scandal. This week's TOM example: Hubspot's purchase of Agency Post.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the latest content marketing spending research. Is 25% not enough? Audio content begins to go viral, and the mexican-chain Chipotle recruits best-selling writers to create content for bags and cups. Is it better to have more or less article links in posts and did content marketing make the Hot or Not list? Rants and raves include a native advertising rant from Joe from the Conan show, and Robert raves on user experience and storytelling. This week's TOM example: Rockwell Automation Asia Pacific.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the finalized deal between the Association of National Advertisers and Business Marketing Association, and then quickly dive into Scripted's newfound money. In addition, the boys talk about the huge increase in native advertising spending, and discuss the difference between native advertising and advertorials. After going through some 2015 CMO predictions, Robert rants about Invective Marketing and Joe raves about a Christmas Book. This week's TOM example: Arla from Sweden.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the impact of the Time magazine deal with Outbrain and how it will affect both publishers and marketers. In addition, the boys discuss the New York Times/Shell native advertising deal, as well as a Forrester report that says marketers are wasting money on social media. This week's raves include a unique comedy video related to content marketing and some interesting Aussie coverage of CMI's content marketing benchmark survey. #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: Scribner magazine from 1887.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go deep into more Facebook algorithm changes. That's right...get ready for all your Facebook promotional content to go bye bye. In addition, the boys talk about Marriott's move to becoming a full-blown media company, and (ring the bell) native advertising revenues continue to soar. Two raves this week include a print magazine launch from Airbnb. This week's TOM example of the week: thinkMoney magazine from TD Ameritrade.

In this, our one year anniversary episode, Joe and Robert look back and grade themselves on their 2014 content marketing predictions. In addition, the boys discuss the growing concern over native advertising in the political space, which caused some issue this year in San Francisco. Facebook offers an interesting deal for publisher and there is yet another article about a crisis in content marketing. Rants and raves include Alex from Target and commenting on blog posts. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example is none other than This Old Marketing.

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss a possible "crisis" in content marketing effectiveness. Then the boys discuss the ongoing agency saga and content marketing, with some breaking news on the Publicis purchase of Sapient. Final stories include a take on the revolution in podcasts, and some critical review of Verizon's new content marketing site. Rants and raves include a CNET magazine and more confusion over native advertising. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: Concept to Reality magazine from Altair Engineering.

In this episode of PNR: This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the real definition of content marketing. Mozilla launches a new media platform and Snapchat says NO to native advertising...but do they? This week's rants and raves include an amazingly inaccurate infographic and why the Wall Street Journal doesn't understand what content marketing really is. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Scandinavian Airlines.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the finer points of Copyblogger's decision to kill their Facebook page. In other news, the Association of National Advertisers has decided to acquire the Business Marketing Association, their second purchase in the last six months, while the VP of MasterCard states that content marketing is inherently flawed. Rants and raves include a Starbucks Video and HBR post on Drucker. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Qualcomm Spark.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss the sale of content advertising agency Story Worldwide to Next Fifteen. That flows really well into an interview with the CEO of Omnicom, who is suggesting to his clients that they put 10-25% of their TV dollars into digital (here comes the content gap). The boys also discuss how HuffPost is seeing 30% of their revenues as content services. Rants and raves include a must-see video from Harlan Ellison on writers getting paid. This week's TOM example: the space program.

In this episode, Joe and Robert go in-depth on Buzzfeed's niche content practices and how progressive marketers are starting to think print. The boys also discuss native advertising in detail, and why the problem is not transparency. Rants and raves include Jerry Seinfeld at AdWeek and whether Coke and Red Bull are "wrong" for doing content marketing. This week's TOM example: Swide.com from Dolce&Gabbana.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert kick off the podcast by discussing some research from Hubspot on the difference between Inbound Marketing and Content Marketing. It seems, according to the research, content marketing is a subset of inbound. Joe and Robert couldn't disagree more. In addition, the boys discuss the fleeing of reporters to the brand side, and get happy about Marriott's launch of a huge content marketing initiative. Rants and raves include Facebook and GE. This week's TOM example of the week: The Guitar Center YouTube program.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the recent Inbound event, and then get right into Tribune's recent purchase of a content marketing services provider. In addition, the boys cover some flawed blogging research, why podcasting is taking off and the dark side of native advertising. Rants and raves include an HBR misstep and the Wall Street Journal guide to native advertising. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Steve Jackson Games (the oldest blog on the planet).

In this post-Content Marketing World episode, Joe and Robert review their highlights from the show, and then immediately dig into Apple's distribution of the new U2 album to all iTunes accounts. In addition, the boys discuss a couple articles about the future of content marketing software. Is it just getting started or is this as big as we will see it? Raves include Marcus Sheridan's key post on adding salespeople to the content marketing mix. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: AllRecipes.com.

In this special live episode from Cleveland, Ohio - home for Content Marketing World 2014, Joe and Robert have the pleasure of a special announcement - the launch of CMI's podcast network. Joe and Robert's special guests include podcast director Pamela Muldoon, Todd Wheatland (author of The Marketer's Guide to Slideshare) and Andrew Davis (author of Brandscaping).

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the upcoming Content Marketing World event in Cleveland, Ohio. In addition, the boys discuss the death of Google Author Rank, how Bezos is transforming the post, and what the value of a brand is really worth. Raves include Kim Kardashian and what brands can learn, and how journalism today is not so horrible. This week's TOM example: MarketMinder.com from Fisher Investments.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss LinkedIn's move to make SlideShare PRO free for all. In addition, the boys discuss the critical role of the editor, Yahoo!'s launch of a new native advertising network, and the end of print newspapers. Rants and raves include Facebook's tweeking of the news feed and Coin's disaster. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: RCI's Endless Vacation magazine.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the fueling debate over native advertising. In addition, the boys discuss a major algorithm flaw with liking on Facebook, real-time marketing disasters, and the eBook pricing problem at Amazon.com. This week's TOM example: UPS.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe go indepth on Joe's LinkedIn post covering three detailed solutions to the native advertising debate spurred on by John Oliver. In addition, the boys cover content marketing and venture capitalists, Demand Media's poor quarterly report, and Budweiser's "Whatever, USA" program. Rants and raves include the NFL and Audible.com. This week's TOM example: Sunset magazine from Southern Pacific Railroad.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss why the challenges with content marketing for associations is pretty similar to every other company. In addition, the boys cover new research on Facebook versus Instagram, dark social, Adidas and a video on John Oliver completely tearing apart native advertising. This week's rant from Robert is why everyone CAN be a storyteller, while Joe raves about Jack Daniel's distillery. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example of the week: Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss Beck's mad content marketing moves, a new content marketing research report from Forrester, and what the real purpose of native advertising is for brands. In addition, the boys discuss content marketing at Aon and a new social media strategy from Jay Baer. This week's #ThisOldMarketing example: Galignani Publishing (our oldest example to date).

This week on #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss the Forbes deal, as well as LinkedIn buying the Bizo platform. In addition, the boys discuss Time's creation of a native ad group, the newspaper crisis, and Ford's former Social head Scott Monty moves to the dark side. Raves come from Weird Al Yankovic and the Gettysburg Museum. This week's TOM example: L'Oreal's Makeup.com.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Walmart's big data move and what it means for brands. The boys also discuss research showing that sponsored content may have a trust problem, as well as what an article looks like when a freelance writer goes off. Rants and raves includes Lebron's text-based decision announcement. This week's TOM example: Credit Suisse's magazine from 1895: Bulletin.