The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast

Ryan Haywood shares how he went from selling shoes and working in a call center to building a real estate business that gave him control over his income and time. With the release of his first book, From Commission to Capital, he breaks down the exact sales principles that carried over into wholesaling—how to talk to sellers, negotiate without being pushy, and actually close deals. You’ll also hear why most people struggle to escape the 9–5 and what it really takes to get your first deals done. Get Ryan Haywood's Book: https://a.co/d/0gZn8hqB KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:33 - Why Ryan Decided To Write A Book 4:06 - Sales Skills 8:23 - Why He Dominated Sales 13:08 - How His Skills Transferred To Real Estate 16:53 - The Call Center & Selling Fiber Internet 20:44 - Listening & Presenting 25:49 - Extra Sales Tips 28:19 - Closing Thoughts 30:58 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Antonio Cucciniello, founder of Investarters, has helped over 1 million people get started in real estate—but it took him four years to finally buy his first deal. In this episode, he breaks down what actually holds beginners back, how to overcome analysis paralysis, and the simple framework he uses to go from zero to your first rental. He also shares how he found his first deal, what data matters when picking a market, and the mistakes that slow most investors down. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:30 - Antonio Cucciniello’s Tech Job 2:46 - Analysis Paralysis 4:04 - Flipping Vs Buy And Hold 5:21 - His First Deal 10:52 - Why He Finally Decided To Take Action 12:15 - Selecting Markets 14:13 - His Social Media Presence 17:03 - Deciding His Marketing Channels 21:46 - What His Team Looks Like 24:02 - What’s Working Now 25:19 - Working With Hesitant Sellers 27:05 - What Other Investors Are Sleeping On 29:51 - The Most Valuable Thing He’s Learned 32:12 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Antonio Cucciniello https://www.instagram.com/investarters/ Website: Rentals To Riches https://www.skool.com/rentalstoriches/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If you’ve been putting in the work but not seeing deals, Chris Logan lays out the three pillars that actually drive results in wholesaling. Instead of guessing what makes a deal, you’ll learn why starting with buyers changes everything, how to generate consistent seller leads through real conversations, and what it takes to turn those conversations into contracts. From the 100 conversation rule to mastering follow-up and understanding seller motivation, this episode simplifies what most people overcomplicate and shows you how to create predictable deal flow. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:28 - Pillar 1: Find Your Buyers First 3:19 - Pillar 2: How To Get Consistent Leads 8:36 - Pillar 3: Turning Leads Into Deals 14:16 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Chris Logan https://www.instagram.com/chrisloganrei/ Website: Virtual Wholesaling Made Simple https://www.virtualwholesalingmadesimple.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If your calls aren’t turning into deals, it’s not your list—it’s what happens after the seller pushes back. In this episode, Nicholas Nick breaks down what actually happens inside high-volume call centers that have made over 40 million dials, and why most investors fall apart the moment a seller objects. You’ll hear how to handle resistance in real time, what to say (and what not to say), and how to turn more conversations into signed deals, plus the systems behind consistent results—how to work leads the right way, track the numbers that matter, and structure your outreach so you’re not just making calls… you’re closing deals. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:23 - The Fundamentals 1:19 - Single vs Multi-Line Dialers 4:06 - Tracking Your Metrics & Using SMS 6:00 - When A Seller Calls Back 9:31 - The Importance Of Rebuttals 11:51 - A Good Intro Text To Sellers 14:02 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Nicholas Nick https://www.instagram.com/nicholasnicksays/ Website: Lead Mining Pros https://www.leadminingpros.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

David and Ryan sit down with Or Agassi to break down the renovation decisions that can make or break your deals. They cover how over-renovating eats into your margins, why understanding your buyer matters more than picking high-end finishes, and how to build a repeatable process that keeps your costs under control. Through real-world examples, they show how small decisions during a rehab can be the difference between a profitable deal and one that falls apart. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:23 - An Overview Of Or Agassi’s Business 2:11 - How He Got Started 4:57 - The Tangible Aspect Of Real Estate 6:05 - Finding His First Deal & Good Processes 9:00 - Estimating Rehab Costs 13:25 - Finding Good Contractors 21:15 - Why He Switched To Wholesaling 23:16 - Having Templates For Your Flips 27:06 - What Kai.pro Does 30:21 - Other Renovation Tips 35:39 - Why He Started Kai 37:59 - Closing Thoughts 38:33 - Outro LINKS: LinkedIn: Or Agassi https://www.linkedin.com/in/or-agassi-06670035/ Website: Kai.pro https://kai.pro/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Commercial real estate feels like the next level—but most investors don’t know how to get there. Paul Thompson from Real Estate 101 breaks down what actually changes when you move beyond single family, why bigger deals can be easier to manage, and how to structure them without relying on banks or needing millions upfront. He also reveals the hidden opportunity with “mom and pop” properties and how to scale faster by focusing on deal structure instead of capital. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:22 - The Monopoly Lesson 1:49 - The 3 Ways To Make Money 3:58 - Paul’s First Deal & The Struggle 5:35 - The Breakthrough & The Hidden Opportunity 9:27 - Bankless Deal Architecture 11:44 - Biggest Concerns 14:03 - The Game Is Still Yours To Win 14:47 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Paul Thompson https://www.instagram.com/pauldavidthompson/ Website: Commercial Real Estate 101 https://www.skool.com/commercial-real-estate-101/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

A major shift is happening in real estate right now, and most investors still haven’t caught on. In this episode, Thach Nguyen explains how accessory dwelling units (ADUs) are changing the way investors create value and generate cash flow from a single property. By adding additional units to existing homes, investors can turn one deal into multiple rental properties while forcing appreciation and building long-term wealth. Thach breaks down how this strategy works, where the opportunity is emerging across the country, and how investors can find properties with the lot size and layout needed to make it work. He also shares how market cycles, zoning changes, and housing shortages are creating the conditions for this strategy to take off. Thach's ADU Training: https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:14 - The Current State Of ADUs 2:50 - Why Thach Nguyen Is Passionate About It 4:34 - The Land Value & Arizona 7:28 - Why This Is Powerful & How Thach Does It 11:42 - How To Get Financing 13:51 - Keeping ADUs As Rentals 16:48 - How To Find An ADU Deal 19:20 - Focusing On B And C Neighborhoods 20:42 - How To Determine Price 26:19 - The Opportunity Of A Lifetime 30:42 - Prices In Ryan’s Market 32:51 - The Market Clock 40:02 - Thach’s ADU Class 40:50 - Should People Use Social Media? 41:55 - Closing Thoughts 42:58 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Thach Nguyen https://www.instagram.com/ThachNguyen/ Website: Springboard To Wealth https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Handling objections on the phone can make or break a deal. In this episode, sales expert Jen Way walks through the four objections real estate investors hear most often—like “I need to talk to my spouse,” “I need to think about it,” and price pushback—and explains how to get ahead of them before they ever come up. Jen shares how top salespeople stay proactive on calls, ask better questions, and guide conversations so sellers gain clarity on their real reason for selling, making it much easier to reach an agreement. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:24 - Objection 1 6:32 - Objection 2 8:49 - Objection 3 11:50 - Objection 4 13:15 - The Why & The RRR Tactic 17:06 - Jen’s Thoughts On Using Scripts 18:48 - How She Got Into Sales Training 21:15 - The Perfect Candidate For Her Training 22:43 - The Benefit Of Pulling Back 25:03 - Extra Tips From Jen 28:18 - AI Agents 30:38 - Closing Thoughts 31:19 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Jen Way https://www.instagram.com/salesthejenway/ Facebook: Sales The Jen Way https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesthejenway/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

When Brent Bowers noticed land deals starting to slow down, he made a simple pivot: instead of just selling the land, he started placing brand-new manufactured homes on it. The result was a much larger buyer pool and profits around $50K per deal. In this episode, Brent breaks down how the strategy works, how he finds the right parcels, and the numbers he looks for before buying. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:36 - Why Brent Bowers Changed His Strategy 2:31 - Discovering The Strategy 4:39 - Which Markets Are Working 6:45 - Manufactured Homes With Drywall 7:53 - How He Does It 11:30 - An Example Of A Market 12:56 - How To Get Discounts 14:30 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Brent Bowers https://www.instagram.com/brentlbowers/ Website: The Land Sharks https://www.thelandsharks.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If you’ve been jumping between marketing strategies or feel like your current channel has stopped producing deals, this episode will help you reset your expectations. David breaks down what he calls the marketing clock — the cycle where strategies like direct mail, SMS, PPC, and other channels rise in popularity, become saturated, and eventually give way to new opportunities. He also explains why most investors quit too early and how much marketing spend it realistically takes before a deal starts to come through. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:24 - Marketing Mistakes 1:34 - The Marketing Clock 4:41 - Stick To One Method 6:17 - How Much Marketing Does It Take? 10:32 - Closing Thoughts 10:51 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Slow flips are becoming a popular long-term real estate strategy. Instead of flipping quickly, investors buy inexpensive houses and often seller finance them to create steady payments over time. In this episode, David shows DealMachine user George Dorr how to find cheap slow flip opportunities in Virginia using DealMachine’s filters, property data, and outreach tools. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:44 - The Slow Flip Method 2:45 - Setting Up Filters In DealMachine 5:25 - Skip Tracing 6:59 - The DealMachine Dialer 13:10 - Outro LINKS: Facebook: George Dorr https://www.facebook.com/dorrhomes Website: George Dorr https://georgedorr.kw.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If you’ve been thinking about adding vacant land to your real estate business but aren’t sure where to start, this episode gives you a clear path forward. Joe McCall shares his proven system for flipping vacant land, including how to identify markets where land is actively selling, how to find buyers before you ever lock up a deal, how to target the right sellers, and the simple postcard strategy he uses to generate strong response rates. If you want a more predictable approach to land deals instead of guessing on markets, this episode walks you through the entire framework step by step. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:34 - Finding A Good Market 7:48 - Finding Land Buyers 9:44 - Finding Sellers 11:02 - His Postcard + Voicemail Strategy 13:59 - His Metrics With This System 14:53 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Joe McCall https://www.instagram.com/jvmccall/ Links: Joe McCall https://linktr.ee/joemccall Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

At 19 years old, Austin Pertl is closing four wholesale deals per month after dropping out of high school and going all-in on real estate. In this episode, he breaks down how he built consistent deal flow, why he prefers smaller markets over major metros, and how he competes against larger operators without driving everywhere. He shares the sales mindset that sets him apart, what he’d do differently if he started over, and the simple approach that helped him turn early struggles into steady contracts. If you’re trying to get your first deal or scale beyond one or two per month, this episode shows what consistent wholesaling actually looks like. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:32 - An Overview Of Austin Pertl’s Business 2:47 - Reducing Their Marketing Spend 6:01 - Locking Up Deals Virtually 10:59 - Setting Himself Apart From The Competition 15:38 - What He Was Doing Before 20:20 - Other Young Investors 21:52 - Why Wholesaling Is A “Weird” Model 23:49 - Losing Money On EMD 27:02 - Negotiation Tips 33:56 - How He Got His First Deal 34:40 - Filters He Suggests & Older Sellers 40:38 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch 42:57 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Austin Pertl https://www.instagram.com/austinbuyshouses/ Website: Revite LLC https://www.revitellc.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Vacancy can quietly drain rental returns, even in strong portfolios. In this episode, Alex Arguelles—who built and exited a 9,000-unit apartment portfolio—explains the “sell and stay” model he’s now scaling across the country. Instead of buying empty properties and searching for tenants, investors acquire homes with the seller already leasing it back—often with prepaid rent and a refinance path after 13 months using DCR loans. We break down how the structure works, how the numbers are engineered, and where this strategy fits inside a long-term rental portfolio. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:30 - Alex Arguelles’ Business 1:32 - What He Was Doing Before 3:38 - What Sell2Rent Does 7:45 - How Sellers Find Him 8:53 - The Concerns With The Market 10:37 - Refinancing In 13 Months 12:41 - How His Partner Knew About The Model 14:35 - Working With Wholesalers 16:39 - Lessons From Entrepreneurship & Mentors 20:30 - Providing Value As A Beginner 22:14 - Lessons From Sports & Hiring Tips 26:52 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch 29:22 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Sell2Rent https://www.instagram.com/sell2rentusa/ Website: Sell2Rent https://www.sell2rent.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Andrew Lucas breaks down the seven deal sources that consistently drive revenue in his business without increasing marketing spend. He explains how investors can build a wide network of referral partners, agents, professionals, and community connections that generate steady off-market opportunities — instead of relying only on paid leads. This episode unpacks how to create consistent deal flow by positioning yourself at the center of the right conversations. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:21 - The WIDEFAN Method 4:49 - Wholesalers 6:09 - Influencers 7:01 - Driving For Dollars & Everybody Else 8:25 - Facebook Groups 11:20 - Agents 13:31 - Networking 14:51 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Andrew Lucas https://www.instagram.com/theandrewrlucas/ Website: Deal Finders Club https://dealfindersclub.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Cody Dover went from 4 deals in six months to 120 in a year — then intentionally scaled back to 80 while keeping the same gross revenue. In this episode, he breaks down the mindset shift that changed everything, how building a real sales pipeline paid off months later, why inbound marketing replaced outbound, how he works with a tight VIP buyer list, and what it actually takes to do fewer deals for more money. If you want to scale without burning out, this conversation lays out the strategy behind it. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:22 - Cody Dover’s Business 1:22 - His First Deal 3:28 - Creative Financing & Wholesaling 5:39 - How They Found Their First Multi-Family 6:38 - Generating Leads 8:32 - Being Seller-Focused & Mindset 11:11 - Building Your Network 12:26 - Doing Less Deals For More $$$ 16:56 - Having Buyers Lined Up 20:00 - The Type Of Buyers They Work With 21:26 - Their Business Today & Partners 22:41 - Where To Find Cody & His Next Moves 24:33 - Big Lessons He’s Learned 25:45 - How DealMachine Can Help 27:10 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Cody Dover https://www.instagram.com/cody.dover/ Website: Little Rock Property Buyers https://propertybuyersar.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Rob Schimmenti is flipping houses in New York City — one of the most competitive real estate markets in the country — and closing 15 high-margin deals per year primarily through driving for dollars. In this episode, he breaks down his real numbers, how he generated nearly $3M from 26 deals, why his driving-for-dollars list produces bigger spreads than PPC or high-equity lists, how he calculates ROAS, and the simple postcard tweaks that improved his response rates. If you want to compete in a saturated market without a massive team or complicated funnels, this is a practical look at what’s actually working. KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Rob Schimmenti’s Business 1:42 - Learning From Alex Hormozi 3:28 - His First Deal Under Contract 7:22 - Fractional Ownership Process 10:11 - Finding ROAS & His Next Deal 13:30 - Closing Costs In NY 14:35 - What His Team Looks Like 16:21 - Driving For Dollars 20:28 - D4D vs List Building 23:11 - How He’s Improved His Postcards 26:57 - Where To Find Rob & Closing Thoughts 29:07 - Outro LINKS: Instagram: Rob Schimmenti https://www.instagram.com/robschimmenti/ Website: Cash 4 Keys https://www.cash4keys.com/ Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

If you’ve ever had a seller question your assignment fee at the closing table or a title company push back on how you’re structuring your deals, this episode is for you. Peter Russell breaks down exactly how double closings work, how transactional funding fits into the process, and why more wholesalers are using this strategy to protect their spread and adapt in states where assignments are coming under closer scrutiny. You’ll hear a simple step-by-step example, when to bring in funding, and how to close clean without exposing your profit.KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:41 - How Double Closing Works5:28 - The Need For Transactional Funding11:35 - How To Find Peter Russell’s Company13:34 - Why You Don’t Need Good Credit15:19 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Peter Russellhttps://www.instagram.com/peterussell.official/ Website: Velocity Advantage Capitalhttps://www.velocityadvantagecapital.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/