The Coach Approach Ministries Podcast

Brian and Chad explore how framework coaching is being used in a few specific industries. They also examine the tension between framework coaching and formula coaching.

At the launch of their new E-Course, Frameworks for Successful Coaching, Brian and Chad walk through the five essential elements of a coaching framework. https://coachapproachministries.org/framework

Brian interviews Dr. Tod Bolsinger, author of Canoeing the Mountains: Christian Leadership in Uncharted Territory. Tod is the Vice President and chief of leadership formation at Fuller Seminary. He is an ordained pastor and consults and coaches with churches and nonprofits. Adaptive challenges are those that "cannot be solved with one's existing knowledge and skills, requiring people to make a shift in their values, expectations, attitudes, or habits of behavior." An understanding of this kind of adaptive leadership has three characteristics: 1. a changing environment where there is no clear answer 2. the necessity for both leaders and followers to learn, especially the leader's own ongoing transformation 3. the unavoidable reality that a new solution will result in loss From Tod's book, a list of questions and suggestions he often asks his coaching clients: What is the song behind the words that is keeping us all dancing? In other words, what deeper tune of the church is getting played in this circumstance? What is going on in this situation that nobody is talking about but is affecting the whole system of the church? - p 115 I also often coach my pastor clients to give a yearly "I Have a Dream" sermon in order to keep raising the urgency in the congregation. - p 142 As a coach to pastors, I am almost always in the role of confidant. - p 159 I tell my coaching clients, "You must bring yourself to your role, but you are not your role." - p 211 I often coach my clients, "Make your goal in every conversation to have someone roll their eyes upward (which indicates that they are thinking differently) and say, 'That's a great question.'" - p 213 Text canoeing to 66866 for more resources from Tod

Brian interviews Darren J. Ho, Founder and Leadership Coach. Being a leader is not a position you earn or choose, but a calling to serve others. Darren has over 500 hours of experience coaching influential leaders around the globe. He has 21 years of global business experience with leadership assignments in the US, and as an expatriate in Asia and Europe. These experiences have given him valuable wisdom about the foundations of effective leadership. IDENTIFY Core Values are undeniable truths that reflect how you make sense of the world. They are your greatest asset helping you lead with authenticity, confidence and joy. If you don't lead with your Core Values, then you likely aren't leading authentically. PRACTICE Every conversation in every relationship is an opportunity to practice being the leader you've always desired to become. Using your Core Values in daily conversations will increase your confidence as a leader. PROTECT Rest is the most important discipline when it comes to protecting your Core Values.

Brian and Chad talk about three deep shifts that pastoral leaders need to make to be effective. From casting blame to taking responsibility From Authority to Influence From Content to Collaboration

Marc Cortez is a Professor of Theology at Wheaton College and is a leading expert in theological anthropology, an area of theology that focuses on what Christians believe about human persons. He is particularly interested these days in the imago Dei, the idea that humans were created in the image of God and what that means for humanity. "We see a growing lack of confidence in our ability to answer the question of essence, "What am I?" - Marc Cortez, Theological Anthropology: A Guide for the Perplexed.

Brian and Chad unpack emotional intelligence, a key skill for coaches. Emotional intelligence has four aspects - aware of your own emotions, managing your own emotions, aware of other people's emotions, and adapting how you show up.

This week, Brian interviews Rick Dunn, pastor the Fellowship Church in Knoxville, TN. Angie Ward, one of our favorite guests on the podcasts, told Brian that Rick Dunn is the one to talk about when it comes to adaptive leadership. This week's podcast proves it. The concepts are so different from what we're used to hearing, it is difficult to even create an outline of this conversation. A few links from the conversation are below, but this is best enjoyed in just listening to the conversation. Enjoy. You can hear more of Rick on his podcast called Life Reframed. Building the Bridge While You Walk on It by Robert Quinn - University of Michigan Kornferry Institute

Brian and Chad talk about a Coach Approach Preaching. This is a fascinating conversation about applying coaching competencies to another field. Specifically, Chad and Brian apply agreements, active listening and powerful questioning to preaching.

Linda Miller has been an Executive Coach for decades. She describes an Executive Coach as a deeply present thought partner, who models behaviors that leaders can use in their leadership. She says there are three things a coach must do for the leaders. Listen deeply Give honest feedback Challenge assumed constraints

Brian and Chad explore how framework coaching is being used in a few specific industries. They also examine the tension between framework coaching and formula coaching.

Brian and Chad explore the theology of coaching. They talk about the flourishing life that Jesus offers, the fact that humans are wholistic beings, and that Christians are missional people, attempting to join God where He is already working.

This week Brian interviews Rick Richardson, Professor of Evangelism and Leadership at Wheaton College, Director of Wheaton College Billy Graham Center Research Institute, and Director of the Church Evangelism Initiative. Rick is the author of You Found Me: New Research on How Unchurched Nones, Millennials, and Irreligious Are Surprisingly Open to Christian Faith Rick sees how coaching is essential to the church to help her fulfill her potential. Check out this statistic from Rick's work with the Church Evangelism Initiative: Without coaching, they were seeing 10% success. Adding coaching and changing nothing else, success jumped to 50%. Now to go higher, they are adding a heavier coaching element.

Quite often when a coaching relationship isn't working, you should revisit the agreements. Agreements are not a "set it and forget it" item. Here are a few agreements to consider: What the client should expect from the coach What the coach should expect from the client What the client should expect from the client What the coach should expect from the coach Third party agreements should be given special consideration.

Brian and Chad discuss the GROW model for coaching and walk through each step. This is a deeper dive than you might have already taken. Goals (Future) Reality (Present) Options (What's possible? Discerning) Who, What, When, Will to do it (Designing Actions)

Brian interviews Evan Courtney, owner of Creative Courtney, a web design agency to find out what is essential for a coaching website. Evan says the first thing to ask is "What do you want the visitor to do on your site?" Most likely, you want the visitor to take an action. Make it obvious what option you want the visitor to take.

Chad and Brian discuss self-differentiated leadership championed by Edwin Friedman in his book A Failure of Nerve. The five aspects that Friedman says self-differentiates leaders are: A capacity to get outside the emotional climate of the day. A willingness to be exposed and vulnerable. Persistence in the face of resistance and downright rejection. Stamina in the face of sabotage along the way. Being "headstrong" and "ruthless"—at least in the eyes of others.

Perry Rhue has been a professional coach for over 20 years and is currently operating Ekklesia - For Coaches by Coaches, helping successful business and life coaches become MORE SUCCESSFUL. Perry does the Advanced Mentor Coaching for CAM, and folks are raving about their time with Perry. Perry shares some of the goodness from Advanced Mentor Coaching with Brian. Next level of excellence Master foundational skills and competencies MCC level Distinguish yourself from the herd

Chad and Brian discuss three guiding principles: 1. Do the Work 2. Be Present 3. Don't Be the Hero

Dr. JR Briggs is the director of Leadership and Congregational Formation for The Ecclesia Network. He is the author of Fail: Finding Hope and Grace in the Midst of Ministry Failure. And he hosts the Monday Morning Pastor and Resilient Leaders podcast. Brian and Doug talk about Coaching Through Failure. What lies are you wanting to believe in this season? Definition of failure The benefits of failure How do we succeed at failing How do we create safe spaces What are practical ways to steward failure in a coaching session

Brian continues a conversation with Doug Guthrie, Professor of Global Leadership at the Thunderbird School of Management, about vision, alignment, motivation, and introspection. In this podcast, Doug breaks down how to coach around vision. Other podcasts with Doug: #191 Overcoming Arrogance #201 Levels of Leadership

Brian interviews Linda Miller, Global Liason for Coaching with the Ken Blanchard Companies and founding partner with CAM, about four conversations every manager should have with direct reports. The four conversations are: Setting goals Praising conversations Redirecting conversations Wrapping up conversations You can listen to more of Linda on: #164 How to Give Feedback #151 Building Trust

Three reasons to start a podcast -- as a hobby; to let people know, like, and trust you; and to make money. Brian and Chad navigate these three levels to help you understand why and how you might start a podcast.

Angie Ward is one of our favorite guests. She recently published I am a Leader: When Women Discover the Joy of their Calling. Michael Cheuk from Christian Coaching Magazine interviewed Angie about her book. Also, as a note, if you're interested in subscribing to Christian Coaching Magazine, you can do so by going to christiancoachingmag.com and paying $15 per year, which not only gives you access to amazing articles on coaching but also helps to support Michael in bringing added value such as this interview.

Getting from zero clients to one client is the hardest transition you'll ever make as a coach. Second hardest is going from five clients to fifty. Brian and Chad talk about three necessary shifts. 1. Raise your rate - shifting to a niche that can afford to pay the necessary fee 2. Increase your funnel - find a way to draw client into your sphere 3. Treat your practice more like a business

Peggy Kao Enderle is the Digital Learning Director for Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, an organization that ministers to college students around the world. Peggy regularly develops leaders to lead from a coaching mindset. Brian interviews Peggy around this topic.

Chad and Brian talk about the difference between coaching for performance and coaching for development. They discuss how they prefer coaching development, and then deep dive into how to do it.

Doug Guthrie, Professor of Global Leadership at the Thunderbird School of Management joins the podcast again after having recorded episode # 191 Overcoming Arrogance. Doug describes four essentials to leadership, and how coaches use those distinctions to help clarify a leader's thinking. Vision Alignment Motivation Introspection

Overrated Coaching "Truths" (things coaches believe are really important that just aren't that important). Here is our beginning list. Listen to the podcast for more. The client is always right I have to be nice/gentle/comfortable Holding to the spoken agenda Coaching is mostly questions People don't cry in coaching There is a thick dark line between coaching and counseling The coach can't give advice Coaching is all about action

Brian talks with Dr Reggie McNeal about what the Corona Virus makes clear about our world today. What they discovered was that rather than cloud the issues, the virus has amplified the need for institutions to move into the Digital Age. Reggie is a master at explaining the world's cultural shifts.

Coaches are real people with all the emotional ups and downs of any human. We deal with depression, being tired, frustration, anxiety, and yet we have to coach through it. Chad and Brian share their experiences and how to navigate through it.

Bob Hyatt is the director of equipping and spiritual formation for Ecclessia (ecclesianet.org) Bob talks about the differences between pure coaching and spiritual direction and how he combines them to root the client in his or her identity in Christ. This allows the client to come to issues without an anxiousness, which is essential to leading in the constantly changing world we live in today.

In Tod Bolsinger's book, Canoeing the Mountains, he says that relational congruence is one of three keys to leadership. Predictable. Same person in every situation. Transparent. Your expressed interest is your true interest. Approachable. Open to disagreement. Not defensive.

Four necessary steps to launching a business correctly. Scott Brookens from ScottBrookens.com joins the podcast. Roadmap - Set a simple action plan in place that you can follow so you know what steps you need to take in order to start out strong Legal Structure - Get an appropriate legal structure in place for your business to ensure you are as protected as possible Accounting Processes - Set up bookkeeping and accounting systems on the front end to ensure you are capturing all your financial data accurately Launch - You're ready. You're set. So go! Launch party time! Gather friends and family together to celebrate the start of your new business!

Once in a while you come across a concept that really changes the way you think and approach things. This is true of Cal Newport's book, So Good They Can't Ignore You: Why Skills Trump Passion in the Quest for Work You Love. Basic concept: Passion follows mastery. Coaches love things like "passion." Maybe too much. We're not saying passion doesn't matter; we're just saying that sitting around waiting for passion is a poor strategy. Try things and see what stirs your interest. Let the interest develop into skill, and then mastery will unlock passion. Usefulness in coaching: · When a client is trying to "discover" passion. · Career coaching. · When faced with a challenge that's a bit too much, passion is lacking.

Gem and Alan Fadling are founders of Unhurried Living, Inc., a non-profit that resources and trains Christian leaders to rest deeper, live fuller, and lead better. They talk to Michael Cheuk, editor of Christian Coaching Magazine, about their new book, What Does Your Soul Love? Eight Questions That Reveal God's Work in You.

As coaches, we've noticed that our clients aren't celebrating enough. And what they do celebrate is often narrow and internal. In this podcast, Chad and Brian consider how to draw more awareness from our clients as they consider celebration.

Doug Guthrie was a rising star in academia until 2013 when, like Icarus, he flew too close to the sun. In 2010, Guthrie was hired as the dean of the George Washington University School of Business. He had great vision but lacked people skills. In 2013, he was released as Dean and had to find a healthy mindset to move forward from a public failure. In this podcast, Guthrie opens up about those difficult days and how to develop the necessary humbleness to lead well.

Setting the context is a skill that good communicators master. When the context is not set, the listener is wondering, "what are we talking about?" It is as if the listener wandered into the conversation halfway through. A good communicator starts with the context so that the listener can enter the conversation immediately. In this podcast, Brian asks Chad how he is so good at setting context.

Chad Hall and Brian talk about disciplines for getting clients. Daily Stoke your positivity Coach somebody Immerse into your niche Reach out to someone every day Weekly Visualize your week - Charles Duhigg wrote Smarter, Faster, Better Make an ask Add value (from your immersion) Monthly Read one really good book Show up somewhere monthly Develop one sales relationship skill Reconnect with your purpose

Create a Coaching Retreat for a Group Brian welcomes Cindi White, ACC, (cindiwhite.com) to the podcast and discusses a recent coaching retreat that Cindi offered to women in ministry. Cindi answers the questions: What I did well? What I did not do well? What I would do differently? What I learned? How I formatted the sessions?

Providing Hope as a Coach Hope is in definite need in today's culture. Brian and Chad discuss the need and how coaches can provide hope to their clients. What takes away hope? Losing belief in yourself. Losing belief in your context. Low sense of your agency. What can coaches do to provide hope? Coaching can create agency. Coaching can make you believe in yourself. Coaching can make you feel better about your context.

Shifting toward Partnerships Scarcity to Abundance (about power) Fear to Freedom (builds on scarcity) Top-Down to Side by Side (Mutual accountability) Category to person Neat to Messy Angie Ward is an award-winning regular contributor to Christianity Today leadership publications. She is a highly regarded teacher and collaborative leader with experience in church, parachurch, and Christian higher education contexts. She holds a Ph.D. in Ministry Leadership from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. - angieward.net Angie's newest book I am a Leader: when women discover the joy of their calling comes out March 3rd 2020)

Being your own boss is wonderful, except when it isn't. Chad and Brian discuss the difficulties that must be overcome. -Lack of structure -Easy to overwork -Lack of security -Hard being productive in schedule gaps

Brian's guest on this podcast is Dr. Kathryn Helleman, Director of Institutional Assessment and Planning and Adjunct Professor in Christian Ethics at Winebrenner Theological Seminary. Brian and Kathryn discuss the nature of ethical positions, dealing with reality, and how to coach around it. They deal with the questions: What tips you off that there may be an ethical position to coach around? When should your ethical position as a coach trump the coaching mindset that honors the client's agenda?

Brian interviews the always energetic Kyle Tubbs, New Church Starts Manager with the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, on how his tribe has built a successful coaching culture. Kyle talks about how to communicate coaching as a value, diverse ways to put it into practice, where to find money to build coaching, and some areas they are experimenting with coaching. You can find more about Kyle at cbf.net.

Brian and Chad discuss ways to get to the heart of the matter in coaching. Too many coaching conversations just scratch the surface of the issue. The topic as well as the person need to explore at a much deeper level in order to create deep awareness, solid accountability, and a helpful learning plan. Brian and Chad give several do's and don'ts.

Brian interviews Maria Lester, the Credentialing/Program Accreditation Coordinator with the International Coach Federation (ICF). Maria uncovers some of the mysteries of how to gain Continuing Coach Education that works for renewing your credentials with the ICF.