The Coach Approach Ministries Podcast

Everybody has embedded theology. These are beliefs that we have that we aren't sure where it came from or even whether we truly believe it. A coach can bring this theology into our awareness and provide a safe place for us to give our own theology further consideration. In this episode, Brian is joined by Dr. Kathryn Helleman, Director of Institutional Assessment and Planning and Adjunct in Christian Ethics at Winebrenner Theological Seminary. Together they discuss how to coach around embedded theology.

The High Performance Pattern (HPP) assessment was created by Dr. Jerry Fletcher, a professor at Harvard. Since his death, the HPP has been championed by Coach Approach Ministries. The HPP honors the fact that everyone can perform at a high level, but the way they get to that level is unique to them. Everyone who has been introduced to this assessment has found it to be profoundly impactful. Brian and Chad began this talk about the HPP in episode # 177 and conclude their conversation here in episode # 179.

Brian interviews David Cooke, the director of CCLC (Certified Christian Leadership Coach) for CAM. David recently wrote one of our newest classes, Coaching Spiritual Growth. The Gospel of John, chapter 15, talks about abiding in Christ. This is a description for us of spirituality, which encompasses more than the spirit, but also the body and our emotions. Here are some bullets of the conversation: Not a formula, but a relationship with Jesus and others - move past individuality - coaching is a good step Exploring discontent (# 6 of 10 stops from Barna's book, Maximum Faith) Discovering the next step of obedience (try to move forward on Barna's scale) You can contact David at [email protected].

The High Performance Pattern (HPP) assessment was created by Dr. Jerry Fletcher, a professor at Harvard. Since his death, the HPP has been championed by Coach Approach Ministries. The HPP honors the fact that everyone can perform at a high level, but the way they get to that level is unique to them. Everyone who has been introduced to this assessment has found it to be profoundly impactful. Brian and Chad talk about the HPP in this episode and conclude their conversation in podcast # 179.

Scott Gress is a professional coach who teaches leaders when to ask and when to tell to get great ministry results. His new book is called A Christian Coaching Guidebook: How to Come Alongside Others for Ministry Results. You can buy Scott's book at Amazon.com. Find out how you can hire Scott to coach, speak, or train at http://www.scottgress.com

The tables are turned this week, as Michael Cheuk, the editor of Christian Coaching Magazine (www.christiancoachingmag.com) interviews Brian on the topic of How Much Do I Charge for Coaching?

Brian and Chad dig into the ICF competency of Designing Actions and geek out on its focus on learning.

Brian interviews Rev Debbie Foster, who is a pastor to pastors, and takes a coach approach to EVERYTHING in her ministry. She makes this bold statement early in the podcast: "I wouldn't still be in ministry today if it weren't for the coach approach to my work." Here are a few bullet points to the interview: Centering in Trust - establishing intimacy - safe space Transition from technical work to adaptive work - more questions, less answers, physically move out of the spaces we are in. Metaphors, painting pictures, allow failure to inform Holding up the mirror - saying what I hear - asking tough questions Making space for the Holy Spirit

Brian was reading Tim Hicks book, Embodied Conflict, and came across the term "Maybe Capacity". Hicks writes: We can create a type of understanding that allows for the coexistence of mutually contradictory accounts, what might be called a "maybe capacity," a looser attachment to hypothesis formation that allows us to be receptive to, and to convey our openness to, each party without fully subscribing to their account or to our own internal responses to their account. That is kind of a mouthful. Brian and Chad break the "Maybe Capacity" down to a level that every coach can use. Here are some highlights: Get comfortable with not knowing Ask questions that are wide open at the beginning Create a "frame" for the client to design actions Let the Client assign the meaning and action to the issue (and yet keep them in a maybe capacity)

Brian interviews Ken Kessler about his role in creating a coaching culture in his denomination. Ken is the Director of the Coaching Network for the Baptist General Association of Virginia (bgav.org) They discuss the dynamics of creating a coaching culture.

Brian and Chad discuss the easy trap of turning a coaching conversation into an interrogation. Too many questions! They explore other ways to create a conversation without the overuse of Powerful Questioning.

Merlin Switzer is the Founder and CEO of Switzer Associates (switzeronleadership.com). He is certified as a PCC coach with the International Coach Federation, and he is our guest today on the Coach Approach Ministries Podcast. His calling is to coach leaders, especially senior leaders and business owners. He believes that if he can impact a leader, there is a rippling effect throughout the organization. The higher the leader is in an organization, the greater the impact.

Brian and Chad discuss the "typical twelve" responses to distress. These are responses coaches should avoid. Advising: I think you should leave the room the second he raises his voice. One-upping: You think that's bad? Let me tell you about the rages my husband gets into. Educating: I can recommend a really good book that describes what happens in the brain when you've been traumatized as a child. Analyzing: It sounds like you have internalized your father's rages so that your husband's raised voice triggers that old fear. Storytelling: Did I ever tell you what I did on my honeymoon when my husband yelled at me? Minimizing: Well, at least he doesn't hit you the way your father did. Sympathizing: I feel frightened when I hear how angry he gets. Interrogating: How often does he go into one of these rages? Reassuring: I'm confident that you'll find a way to resolve this together; the two of you have been through a lot. Avoiding: Let's talk about something else, OK? This topic is quite upsetting. Diagnosing: It sounds like you have some typical codependent personality traits. OR It sounds like he has dysfunctional anger syndrome. Judging: It sounds like you've made a poor choice in a spouse.

Three types of coaching models are described in this episode, along with clues that might indicate the need for a different model. Also, Chad gives one thing he doesn't like about Abraham Lincoln.

Brian interviews Brian Tracy on how to lead as a coach. Brian Tracy planted the Evangel Assembly church 24 years ago. He has a multiple staff, including a worship/youth pastor, guest services pastor, children's outreach, office manager, and a part-time assistant children's program. The whole staff is trained in coaching.

Brian and Chad talk about coaching change, transition, and transformation.

Brian interviews Linda Miller on How to Give Feedback. Linda has worked for the last 18 years with the Ken Blanchard Companies as their Global Liaison for Coaching. She is one of the founding partners with CAM. How to Give Feedback S - Situation B -Behavior I - Impact N - Next Steps (Moving forward)

Brian and Chad discuss four types of coaching practices. 1. Life 2. Leadership 3. Ministry 4. Missional

Michael Cheuk, editor of Christian Coaching Magazine, christiancoachingmag.com, interviews Scott Eblin about his 3rd edition of The Next Level and the benefits of his Life GPS worksheet. You can gain full access to Christian Coaching Magazine by paying $15 per year. Your subscription helps with the cost of the production of the magazine and supporting Michael as he creates a great interview each month.

While standards and boundaries sound boring, this podcast is anything but that! Standards are personal expectations you have for yourself. Everyone has standards about such things as appearance, mates, vehicles, organization, and so on. Standards can be too high or too low. This can cause conflict. Boundaries are what we allow other people to do to us or around us. Boundaries have to be expressed and enforced. Not everyone is going to like your boundaries. Chad and Brian break these down and discuss how they interact.

Travis Guse is a certified strength coach. Travis talks about how his journey came through strengths and how he uses strengths in his coaching. You can find out more about Travis at www.strengthssolutions.org.

Chad and Brian take a break from talking about coaching to talking about something they both have in common -- growing up rural and how that shaped their perspective.

Bob is the Director of Equipping and Spiritual Formation for Ecclesia. bobhyatt.info or [email protected] "Content-rich" coaching is when you know how to do/have done what the client is doing. For younger leaders suffering from all clarity, no perspective. They aren't aware of what they shouldn't be doing and ought to be doing. For older leaders with no clarity and all perspective. They see all the trees and it becomes incapacitating. They can't bring it to a focus. For those with specific questions about ministry. Protect the boundaries of the coaching relationship and step into that place of "tell me what to do."

Without diving deep into the sport of professional basketball, Brian and Chad take a look at the lessons we can learn from Steve Kerr, the head coach of the Golden State Warriors, who have won three championships in five years. Kerr doesn't yell or pace the sidelines. He listens and observes much more than he speaks. He creates an open and trusting atmosphere among some of the highest paid and talented athletes in the world. There is much we can learn from Steve Kerr and apply to our coaching and leadership.

Jane Creswell, MCC is a Co-founder of Coach Approach Ministries. She spends most of her time working with corporations to create a coaching culture but her covert mission is to bring Christ in those companies. Under Coaching Presence coachfederation.org/pcc-markers Coach partners with the client by supporting the client to choose what happens in the session. Coach partners with the client by inviting the client to respond in any way to the coach's contributions and accepts the client's response. Coach partners with the client by playing back the client's expressed possibilities for the client to choose from. Coach partners with the client by encouraging the client to formulate his or her own learning.

Triple Loop Learning was discovered by Chris Argyris, a Harvard Professor. We discovered it in Robert Hargrove's book, Masterful Coaching. The three loops are often called by different names, but one set of names are: 1. Action 2. Strategy 3. Identity

PCC Quality Coaching is Your Next Step. Here are four cornerstone elements that support PCC level coaching: PCC coaches have a balance between focus and exploration. (ACC coaches typically go one way or the other) PCC coaches are easy to talk to. (not judgmental, conversational, no agenda) PCC coaches create new awareness. (not "what are your options", creativity, risks, stimulant to client thinking) PCC coaches are really good at designing actions (ACC coaches typically only identify actions)

Terry Gurno is the CEO of Terry Gurno and Influence. He is an Executive Coach, Trainer, Author, and Leadership Artist. Terry shares his journey from the pastorate to being CEO of a company to starting his own coaching business. There are lots of learnings along the way. www.terrygurno.com

Lots of people like podcasts about questions, but there is one skill that is more important - listening. In this podcast, Brian and Chad discuss how to be better listeners.

Linda Miller has been with the Ken Blanchard Companies for 18 years! She is their Global Liaison for Coaching. She was also a founding partner with CAM. She shows us how to build trust in any situation. You can build trust in four areas: Able Believable Connected Dependable

Brian and Chad approach the issue of questions from a different angle. What are some questions you should NEVER ask? Looking to the past - What have you got so far? What have you tried so far? Prescriptive - Have you ever thought about... Judged - Why did you do that? How stupid are you? Really? Collecting information already discovered - Have you thought about anything that you could do about that? Bad timing - What could you do about that? (at the beginning) What about this is really important? (at the end)

This week we are going to feature an interview recorded for Christian Coaching Magazine by Michael Cheuk. In this interview, Michael interviews Dr. Chris Gambill about his experience with the Workplace "Big 5" Profile. He talks about what the Big 5 Profile is, and how a coach should use it. Also, as a note, if you're interested in subscribing to Christian Coaching Magazine, you can do so by going to christiancoachingmag.com and paying $15 per year, which not only gives you access to amazing articles on coaching but also helps to support Michael in bringing added value such as this interview.

Often our coaching may feel closer to counseling as our clients show a need for an internal shift. Brian and Chad discuss the distinctions of counseling and coaching and how coaching often is the right approach.

Grace Dyson started coaching during her corporate years. She talks about how she positioned herself within the company as a coach, used coaching in her leadership style, and how she prepared herself to leave corporate and become a full-time coach. Her podcast is The Parent as Career Coach. www.lifedesigncareers.com

After eight years of coaching, Brian decided to look at his coaching hours log to see where his clients came from. With 90 unique clients, here are some observations. Not one client came from my website, reading my blog, or social media. Not one. Ever. My first twenty clients came from wherever I could find them. Eight of my first twenty clients were the key to all the rest of my clients. Working these networks produced multiple clients all at once. Chad and Brian discuss all the results on today's podcast. Based on a blogpost found here.

Angie Ward is an award-winning regular contributor to Christianity Today leadership publications. She is a highly regarded teacher and collaborative leader with experience in church, parachurch, and Christian higher education contexts. She holds a Ph.D. in Ministry Leadership from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Angie joins the podcast to talk about exploring deeply held assumptions. This is where the conflict really occurs. 3 levels of organizational culture - Assumptions are below the water. Artifacts Espoused vallues Underlying Assumptions Where can people find Angie? @indyaward, churchmatters.com, church chat podcast

Brian and Chad discuss the GROW model for coaching and walk through each step. This is a deeper dive than you might have already taken. Goals (Future) Reality (Present) Options (What's possible? Discerning) Who, What, When, Will to do it (Designing Actions)

Jane Creswell, Co-founder of Coach Approach Ministries, joins the podcast to share her insights on the new PCC markers provided by the International Coach Federation. Previous Jane Creswell podcasts #086 Learn Group Coaching from a Pioneer #017 A Missionary to the Corporate World #018 Introducing Coaching Into a Fortune 500 Company

Chad shares his honest opinion about the popular Enneagram assessment. There are things he likes. There are things he doesn't. Your opinion may be different. The specific descriptions of human personality is true Overall framework of human personality is not true There is no validity backing it up

Brian interviews Joel Cocklin on the topic of Resilience. Five elements of Resilience: Positivity Resourcefulness strong sense of self (confidence) Self-discipline Flexibility - Resilient people are not rigid people Podcast #074 on Positive Psychology Some facts about Joel: Pastored for 10 years in PA Entered Army chaplaincy in 1982 for 27 years plus Specialized in family/marriage therapy - 3 year program completed in 14 months - MS in human development and family studies - clinical setting seeing couples and families with myriad of problems at Fort Riley Command chaplain with US Southern Command - a great privilege to be the chaplain and work with 4 star general and then a 4 star Navy Admiral, working with religious leaders in those countries Senior chaplain at Fort Bragg Retired as a full-bird colonel 9 years as Director of Leadership Development and then as Academic Dean of Winebrenner Theological Seminary Now retired

Brian and Chad list six benefits of mentor coaching. An outside perspective Motivation Confidence Connections Resources Feedback You can find mentor coaching at coachapproachministries.org/mentor

Today Brian interviews Dr. Tod Bolsinger, author of Canoeing the Mountains: Christian Leadership in Uncharted Territory. Tod is the Vice President and chief of leadership formation at Fuller Seminary. He is an ordained pastor and consults and coaches with churches and nonprofits. Adaptive challenges are those that "cannot be solved with one's existing knowledge and skills, requiring people to make a shift in their values, expectations, attitudes, or habits of behavior." An understanding of this kind of adaptive leadership has three characteristics: 1. a changing environment where there is no clear answer 2. the necessity for both leaders and followers to learn, especially the leader's own ongoing transformation 3. the unavoidable reality that a new solution will result in loss From Tod's book, a list of questions and suggestions he often asks his coaching clients: What is the song behind the words that is keeping us all dancing? In other words, what deeper tune of the church is getting played in this circumstance? What is going on in this situation that nobody is talking about but is affecting the whole system of the church? - p 115 I also often coach my pastor clients to give a yearly "I Have a Dream" sermon in order to keep raising the urgency in the congregation. - p 142 As a coach to pastors, I am almost always in the role of confidant. - p 159 I tell my coaching clients, "You must bring yourself to your role, but you are not your role." - p 211 I often coach my clients, "Make your goal in every conversation to have someone roll their eyes upward (which indicates that they are thinking differently) and say, 'That's a great question.'" - p 213 Text canoeing to 66866 for more resources from Tod

Today's podcast is about Optimism vs Pessimism. Research shows optimists are more successful. Chad and Brian talk about three distinct ways to interpret success and failure. These can become our lenses for viewing failure and success. Personal Prevalence Permanence We invite you to take our class on Coaching and Positive Psychology which starts February 18, 2019. Chad mentioned the author Martin Seligman, who wrote Flourish and The Hope Circuit.

Coach the person instead of the problem. Chad lays out some distinctions that help us draw out the fullness of a client. Strangely, we talk a little too much about jockeys. And stay tuned till the very end for instructions on how to download a free tool that will help you dive into today's topic. 5 aspects of a person: 1. Natural gifts 2. Acquired strengths 3. Personality 4. Spiritual Gifts 5. Character Chad wanted me to make available a one page breakdown of the 7 Heavenly Virtues. You can download this helpful resource by going to www.coachapproachministries.org/virtues.

This week we feature an interview recorded for Christian Coaching Magazine by Michael Cheuk. In this interview, Michael interviews Dr. Errin Weisman about her experience with burnout and how she started a coaching practice that helps doctors and working moms to live their best. Errin was trained by Coach Approach Ministries, and we thought you might be interested in her thoughts on burnout and also to see how she is using her coach training to gain the flexibility she desires as a working mom. Also, as a note, if you're interested in subscribing to Christian Coaching Magazine, you can do so by going to christiancoachingmag.com and paying $15 per year. This gives you access to amazing articles on coaching and also supports Michael in bringing added value such as through this interview.

Instead of talking about coaching, Brian and Chad demonstrate coaching. Chad coaches Brian through an upcoming transition, then they debrief the coaching conversation.

Brian interviews former Special Agent Laura Sanders who worked almost 10 years for the IRS. Laura identifies five areas where the new tax laws will affect you on your next tax filing. 1. Tax Rates Lowered 2. Child Tax Credit Increased 3. Personal Exemptions Eliminated 4. Flat Standard Deduction vs. Itemized Deductions 5. 20% Deduction for Qualified Trade or Business - Section 199A (the most important section for self-employed coaches)

Brian and Chad discuss what it takes to grow your confidence and credibility as a coach. A coach needs to understand the foundations of coaching A coach needs to know how to create relationships with clients A coach needs to hone their skills alongside other coaches All these attributes can be gained through CAM's Certificate in Christian Leadership Coaching.

In this classic rebroadcast of episode #32, Bill Copper gives insight into how to develop setting goals. This podcast has been one of our top downloads over the years!

Henry Blackaby "Watch to see where God is working and join Him." Chad Hall and Brian Miller discuss how this influences Christian coaching. 1. Looking for God 2. Identifying snippits of activity 3. Joining the activity