The Coach Approach Ministries Podcast

Brian and Chad define 3 types of coaching models and give suggestions as to when to use each one: The conversation model The new awareness model The framework model

Brian talks with his own coach, Bob Hyatt. Brian discusses the importance of having a good coach and experiencing your own transformation so you can be a better coach. Bob Hyatt can be contacted at [email protected]

Brian and Chad discuss Chad's coaching business, StrongLead. They talk about the following topics that are sure to be helpful to a coach starting a business or a coach trying to improve their business: Niche Marketing Expanding clients Defining roles in a partnership Frameworks Systems

Jim McDermid oversaw a $60 million budget when he worked in the medical technology industry. He realized that much of the "coaching" was actually "consulting," and was not developing the staff well. Jim talks about the changes they made to ensure that "coaching" was actually coaching, including the requirement of ICF credentials.

Brian and Chad have been working with the Church Evangelism Institute at Wheaton College, helping them develop their coaching arm. In this episode, Brian and Chad reflect on what they've learned about coaching through the process.

Doug Foltz from Stadia joins the podcast with four tips for returning from the pandemic. 1. Beware: People are faking expertise. They don't know what to do either. 2. Learning is Local. You have to discern what will work best for you. 3. The best ideas are undiscovered. Innovation is necessary in this moment. 4. Design "Ok to Fail" action steps, as opposed to "fail-safe" action steps.

Brian and Chad discuss what assessment Brian should use when he is creating awareness for a church leadership team.

In last week's podcast, Chad and I (Brian) talked about the Empowerment Triangle, created by David Emerald. This framework had just been on Chad's mind lately, and it was a great topic for the two of us to talk through. Very helpful. To my surprise, as I looked at the podcast for this week, we set aside fifth Thursdays to feature interviews by Michael Cheuk for Christian Coaching Magazine. I honestly had no idea, but guess who Michael had recently interviewed? David Emerald, creator of the Empowerment Triangle. I think this counts as a "God thing". Also, as a note, if you're interested in subscribing to Christian Coaching Magazine, you can do so by going to christiancoachingmag.com and paying $15 per year, which not only gives you access to amazing articles on coaching but also helps to support Michael in bringing added value such as this interview.

Brian and Chad discuss Dr. David Emerald's work around the Empowerment Triangle. The victim can become the creator, the persecutor can become the challenger, and the rescuer can become the coach. This can be helpful model for clients.

Scott Gress, PCC, is a leadership coach and trainer who helps leaders and organizations grow. (scottgress.com) Scott loves to ask leaders this question: Would you follow you? In our interview, Scott talks about leading from being in Christ, self awareness, and self management. Scott references an article in Christian Business Review: https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/64438356/christian-business-review-2020-leadership

Brian and Chad take on this important topic and make a distinction between general depression and clinical depression. They also determine that coaching does have borders and isn't effective for everyone.

Triple Loop Learning was discovered by Chris Argyris, a Harvard Professor. We discovered it in Robert Hargrove's book, Masterful Coaching. The three loops are often called by different names, but one set of names are: 1. Action 2. Strategy 3. Identity

In this episode, Paul Burns, founder of Soul-metrics.com, talks to Brian about developing empathy. Paul identifies three competencies that increase empathy - Listening, Feeling what other people feel, and loving action.

Brian and Chad build on episode 250 Coaching the Inner Critic and expand the discussion to the external critic and the cultural critic. If you'd like more, you can look at Gallwey's book The Inner Game of Work.

Karen Howells, founder of The Howell's Group, shares the growth of her business over 33 years, starting with a desperate search for one client to building a staff of seven. One great takeaway is when Karen said God gave her one client and told her to do well with that one client. Then He gave her another client.

Chad and Brian talk about Timothy Gallwey's great work on quieting the inner critic. The cost of not silencing these voices is our personal performance. Gallwey applied this to many sports, including tennis, gold, and skiing, and then applied it to the workforce, helping AT&T when their monopoly was broken apart. A great video that demonstrates Gallwey's discovery is this ancient video of Gallwey teaching a person who has never played tennis how play and enjoy tennis in 30 minutes.

Wes Bryant is the founder of Commission Leadership, where he helps churches create a disciple-making culture. You can find Commission Leadership on any podcast platform and also on Youtube. Wes shares how he turned his years of experience in sports ministry into Commission Leadership with the help of Coach Approach Ministries.

Brian and Chad discuss three elements necessary for transformation: 1. An uncomfortable presence 2. An abandonment of certain loves 3. An embrace of new perspectives

Paul Burns from Soul-metrics.com discusses self-differentiation with Brian.

Brian and Chad talk about a topic that is relevant to almost everyone we coach -- Coaching change, transition, and transformation. Distinctions are made between the three, and a basic understanding of how to coach each one.

Mary Selzer is a Detroit native and has been in full-time ministry all her adult life. The recipient of the Hertel Writing Award for her devotionals, Mary is a popular speaker and Bible teacher. She is a PCC certified coach and served as President of the Michigan ICF. She is a fantastic coach trainer as well and a good friend of the podcast. In this podcast, Mary and Brian discuss Biblical questions that expose the frustration of the questioner, ranging from David to God Himself. Mary collected every question asked in the Bible and put them into a singular resource. She has made this resource available for free at https://coachapproachministries.org/biblequestions.

Brian and Chad discuss Simon's Sinek's Golden Circle and how the distinctions of why, how, and what can help a client get clarity.

Dr. Paul Gratton serves as associate dean of Adult and Graduate Studies at Montreat College in North Carolina. On today's podcast, Paul introduces us to complex systems. This is a great distinctive that can help your client plan forward action by knowing how to fix and tune various types of systems. Paul introduces us to four types of systems. Simple system - Ex. a toaster - I understand it and know how to fix it. Complicated system - Ex. a car - I understand some of it but don't know how to fix it. I need an expert. Complex System - Ex. an organization - I don't always understand it. Fixing it is not straightforward. I have to engage it and play with it. Probe Sense Respond Chaotic system - Ex. Someone shouts fire in a crowded movie theatre. I have to take immediate action.

Brian and Chad discuss how to verbally assess your client's MBTI and how that will affect your coaching.

Loss is everywhere these days. People are dying, and dreams are dying. These losses need processed, and coaches are finding a niche in the area of grief. Join Ali Kennedy and Brian Miller as they discuss: grieving vs mourning death vs living loss grief coaching vs regular coaching Ali Kennedy is an American citizen but has spent over a decade in Asia. She is currently serving alongside her husband at an international church in Manila, Philippines where they are in their 6th year. Ali has a home-based coaching practice called Fuel for the Journey where she helps people re-fill their tank to move forward in life, love and loss. She has three young children. You can find Ali at http://alikennedy.com.

Chad and Brian discuss whether coaches should renew their ACC credential with the ICF or apply for the upgrade PCC credential.

Paul Burns talks about the GPS Spiritual Inventory and addresses the God relationship through the lens of attachment theory. www.soul-metrics.com

Brian and Chad discuss how to coach a client (and yourself) through goal setting for 2021.

Brian and Chad approach the issue of questions from a different angle. What are some questions you should NEVER ask? Looking to the past - What have you got so far? What have you tried so far? Prescriptive - Have you ever thought about... Judged - Why did you do that? How stupid are you? Really? Collecting information already discovered - Have you thought about anything that you could do about that? Bad timing - What could you do about that? (at the beginning) What about this is really important? (at the end)

Travis Guse is a certified strength coach. Travis talks about how his journey came through strengths and how he uses strengths in his coaching. You can find out more about Travis at www.strengthssolutions.org.

Chad and Brian talk about the difficulty of 2020 due to both COVID and the shift into a Digital world. They also share some highlights from CAM 2020 year.

Reggie McNeal identifies four sources of Pastoral Exhaustion that is rampant during this COVID season, along with several prescriptions to renew one's health.

Brian and Chad discuss building accountability for a client based on their Myers-Briggs Temperament, specifically the last letter, P&J. Ps enjoy flexibility, while Js desire some rigidity.

Rev Laura Stephens Reed has a coaching practice that focuses on helping churches find the right minister. You will hear how Laura has built a framework for this practice that allows plenty of room for coaching. You will hear about how she focuses on the benefits of coaching rather than the process of coaching as she reaches out to potential clients. http://www.searchingforthecalled.org

Framework coaching creates a way for the coach to bring some expertise into the coaching. This helps the coach create a healthy way to market coaching. 1. The framework comes out of listening to a number of clients in a particular niche. 2. The framework may suggest the topic for the client. 3. The framework may be linear or topical. 4. The framework does not provide the solution but creates awareness around an issue critical to the client's niche. 5. The framework provides a plethora of true statements that can be shared as appropriate. 6. Framework coaching makes it easier to attract clients.

Brian and Chad explore how framework coaching is being used in a few specific industries. They also examine the tension between framework coaching and formula coaching.

At the launch of their new E-Course, Frameworks for Successful Coaching, Brian and Chad walk through the five essential elements of a coaching framework. https://coachapproachministries.org/framework

Brian interviews Dr. Tod Bolsinger, author of Canoeing the Mountains: Christian Leadership in Uncharted Territory. Tod is the Vice President and chief of leadership formation at Fuller Seminary. He is an ordained pastor and consults and coaches with churches and nonprofits. Adaptive challenges are those that "cannot be solved with one's existing knowledge and skills, requiring people to make a shift in their values, expectations, attitudes, or habits of behavior." An understanding of this kind of adaptive leadership has three characteristics: 1. a changing environment where there is no clear answer 2. the necessity for both leaders and followers to learn, especially the leader's own ongoing transformation 3. the unavoidable reality that a new solution will result in loss From Tod's book, a list of questions and suggestions he often asks his coaching clients: What is the song behind the words that is keeping us all dancing? In other words, what deeper tune of the church is getting played in this circumstance? What is going on in this situation that nobody is talking about but is affecting the whole system of the church? - p 115 I also often coach my pastor clients to give a yearly "I Have a Dream" sermon in order to keep raising the urgency in the congregation. - p 142 As a coach to pastors, I am almost always in the role of confidant. - p 159 I tell my coaching clients, "You must bring yourself to your role, but you are not your role." - p 211 I often coach my clients, "Make your goal in every conversation to have someone roll their eyes upward (which indicates that they are thinking differently) and say, 'That's a great question.'" - p 213 Text canoeing to 66866 for more resources from Tod

Brian interviews Darren J. Ho, Founder and Leadership Coach. Being a leader is not a position you earn or choose, but a calling to serve others. Darren has over 500 hours of experience coaching influential leaders around the globe. He has 21 years of global business experience with leadership assignments in the US, and as an expatriate in Asia and Europe. These experiences have given him valuable wisdom about the foundations of effective leadership. IDENTIFY Core Values are undeniable truths that reflect how you make sense of the world. They are your greatest asset helping you lead with authenticity, confidence and joy. If you don't lead with your Core Values, then you likely aren't leading authentically. PRACTICE Every conversation in every relationship is an opportunity to practice being the leader you've always desired to become. Using your Core Values in daily conversations will increase your confidence as a leader. PROTECT Rest is the most important discipline when it comes to protecting your Core Values.

Brian and Chad talk about three deep shifts that pastoral leaders need to make to be effective. From casting blame to taking responsibility From Authority to Influence From Content to Collaboration

Marc Cortez is a Professor of Theology at Wheaton College and is a leading expert in theological anthropology, an area of theology that focuses on what Christians believe about human persons. He is particularly interested these days in the imago Dei, the idea that humans were created in the image of God and what that means for humanity. "We see a growing lack of confidence in our ability to answer the question of essence, "What am I?" - Marc Cortez, Theological Anthropology: A Guide for the Perplexed.

Brian and Chad unpack emotional intelligence, a key skill for coaches. Emotional intelligence has four aspects - aware of your own emotions, managing your own emotions, aware of other people's emotions, and adapting how you show up.

This week, Brian interviews Rick Dunn, pastor the Fellowship Church in Knoxville, TN. Angie Ward, one of our favorite guests on the podcasts, told Brian that Rick Dunn is the one to talk about when it comes to adaptive leadership. This week's podcast proves it. The concepts are so different from what we're used to hearing, it is difficult to even create an outline of this conversation. A few links from the conversation are below, but this is best enjoyed in just listening to the conversation. Enjoy. You can hear more of Rick on his podcast called Life Reframed. Building the Bridge While You Walk on It by Robert Quinn - University of Michigan Kornferry Institute

Brian and Chad talk about a Coach Approach Preaching. This is a fascinating conversation about applying coaching competencies to another field. Specifically, Chad and Brian apply agreements, active listening and powerful questioning to preaching.

Linda Miller has been an Executive Coach for decades. She describes an Executive Coach as a deeply present thought partner, who models behaviors that leaders can use in their leadership. She says there are three things a coach must do for the leaders. Listen deeply Give honest feedback Challenge assumed constraints

Brian and Chad explore how framework coaching is being used in a few specific industries. They also examine the tension between framework coaching and formula coaching.

Brian and Chad explore the theology of coaching. They talk about the flourishing life that Jesus offers, the fact that humans are wholistic beings, and that Christians are missional people, attempting to join God where He is already working.

This week Brian interviews Rick Richardson, Professor of Evangelism and Leadership at Wheaton College, Director of Wheaton College Billy Graham Center Research Institute, and Director of the Church Evangelism Initiative. Rick is the author of You Found Me: New Research on How Unchurched Nones, Millennials, and Irreligious Are Surprisingly Open to Christian Faith Rick sees how coaching is essential to the church to help her fulfill her potential. Check out this statistic from Rick's work with the Church Evangelism Initiative: Without coaching, they were seeing 10% success. Adding coaching and changing nothing else, success jumped to 50%. Now to go higher, they are adding a heavier coaching element.

Quite often when a coaching relationship isn't working, you should revisit the agreements. Agreements are not a "set it and forget it" item. Here are a few agreements to consider: What the client should expect from the coach What the coach should expect from the client What the client should expect from the client What the coach should expect from the coach Third party agreements should be given special consideration.