Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running

Hal and his contemporaries inspired a generation of ultra runners that led to an exponential boom in the sport. Though he was elite, he was also very much a #noPodium runner. Even with back to back Western States wins, Hardrock, etc. he still had a day job balancing a crazy load.In this episode we talk about the 'good old days'.-----Follow Hal + Field Guide to UltraRunning.Borderlands: Instagram | Youtube | Website

Tommy joins us from London to talk about his unique take on Ultrarunning. I've been saying this a lot lately, but there are some real enlightening moments in this conversation about how to find 'Narnia' and how to hold your seriousness and lightness in tension in an ultra.-----Follow Tommy.Borderlands: Instagram | Youtube | Website

Don't be fooled by Bear's gentle demeanor. He's an ultra running beast. He's got wisdom for Late Race Survival for days. Lean in and get to know Bear with me. If you're struggling with late race survival, Bear's got words for you.----Follow Bart Bear Lee.⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

Andy Glaze is among the most notable ultratrail runners of late. As of now, he's run 206 consecutive weeks of 100+ miles. He's a first responder, husband, father, and overall ultra trail beast with a big heart to inspire and encourage.----Follow Andrew.⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

I have been looking forward to connecting with Colby for a long time. I LOVE his enthusiasm for life and reading and people. He's run almost 1,700 consecutive days, normally around 6 miles per day - even in a tropical storm.----Follow Colby + website.⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

Alex Mueller is a former pro tennis player turned ultra runner. She has a clear love for the sport backed by 20 years of experience as an elite athlete. We had a great conversation about enduring difficult things.----Follow Alex.⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

Brian Ambs has his hands in a lot of businesses. But the common thread appears to be the same thing that makes him a good ultra runner. He can put his head down and endure difficulty for the sake of the joy on the other side.----Follow Brian, Revive Skateboards, Force Wheels, + his YouTube Channel.⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

Michael McKnight is a 200+ mile specialist and was quite kind to sit and talk with me for a bit. But don't be fooled by the soft spoken, slow-to-speak vibe. He's a competitor that knows how to push through the late race urge to quit - and that's what we're here for. I want to learn more about how he does it.----Follow MichaelSponsored by ⁠SunGod⁠, performance eyewear⁠Borderlands.cc ⁠/ ⁠@borderlandstr⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands⁠

Michael Versteeg is something of a trail running relic. He operates like the old days prior to the word ‘elite’ even being a modifier of ‘trail running’.In this episode he talks about his race - Saddles 100, Satisfy Running, Aravaipa, + more.I’ve been looking forward to this for a while.----Follow Michael + SaddlesSponsored by ⁠⁠⁠SunGod⁠⁠⁠.Get ⁠⁠⁠DFL Before DNF goods here⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands

Troy Meadows is the host of the Midpacker Podcast (found anywhere that fine podcasts are found), founder of Run Trail Life, and a 100 mile finisher.----Follow Troy, Midpacker Podcast, Run Trail LifeSponsored by ⁠⁠⁠SunGod⁠⁠⁠.Get ⁠⁠⁠DFL Before DNF goods here⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands

Tommy Green, a former member of the hardcore band Sleeping Giant (+ currently with Holy Name), embarked on a run across the state of Utah to raise awareness about human trafficking and support survivors. ----Follow ⁠Tommy⁠.Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠SunGod⁠⁠⁠.Get ⁠⁠⁠DFL Before DNF goods here⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠⁠@runborderlands

TaMar is a husband, father, pharmacist and world class runner. Beyond that, he’s an extremely accessible teach on instagram focusing on running mechanics. Josh’s running mechanics are garbage and TaMar is here to help.PLUS, the first ever world breaking news - TaMar is going for a world record. Listen in.⁠Here’s the video I said I would put in the show notes.⁠——03:00 Running in College and Form Improvement11:00 Running as a Half Marathoner18:00 Balancing Running with Work and Family25:00 The Importance of Efficient Form30:00 Running with Hamstrings and Practical Tips31:39 Improving Running Efficiency33:08 The Mental Game35:16 Embracing the Moment36:09 Running Tips40:05 The Importance of MobilitySponsored by ⁠⁠SunGod⁠⁠.Follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TaMar⁠Get ⁠⁠DFL Before DNF goods here⁠⁠.⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠@runborderlands

Candice Burt founded Destination Races (Tahoe 200, Bigfoot 200, + Moab 240). She talked with us on our season one topic, Late Race Survival. In 2023 she ran 200 ultramarathons in a row setting a new world record. For her, Late Race Survival is more about Late Day Survival. How did she keep showing up and going forward on day 105 or 144. She tells us.----Sponsored by ⁠⁠SunGod⁠⁠.Follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Candice / Destination Trails ⁠⁠⁠Get ⁠⁠DFL Before DNF goods here⁠⁠.⁠⁠Borderlands.cc⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠@runborderlands⁠

Matthew Johnson is a beast. Not sure how else to say it. But he’s as kind as he is intense. He talks on the DFL Before DNF Podcast about his Leadville finish that was preceded by a Leadville DNF. We flew to Austin to get wisdom on Late Race Survival - how do the strong finishers do it? Sponsored by SunGod.Follow ⁠Matthew ⁠Get DFL Before DNF goods here.Borderlands.cc / @runborderlands

Welcome to Season 1 Episode 6. This season is all about Late Race Survival. How do the consistent finishers push through the desire to quit? We’re interviewing a bunch of great runners from elite to everyday #nopodium plate spinners.——SummaryAnthony Costales, an elite trail runner, joins the podcast to discuss late race survival and his journey from cross country to trail running. He shares his experiences and insights into pushing through the urge to quit during races. Anthony also talks about his personal life in Salt Lake City and how he balances running with his family and job. He discusses his race strategy, mindset, and the challenges he faced at Cape Town. Finally, he shares his upcoming race plans for the year.Chapters00:00 Late Race Survival03:19 From Cross Country to Trail Running06:41 Transitioning to Trail Running10:27 Personal Life and Running in Salt Lake11:44 Course Records and Race Experiences16:12 The Western States Experience18:07 Late Race Push and Smiling19:00 Race Strategy and Mindset22:53 Challenges at Cape Town26:00 Balancing Running and Life28:11 Upcoming RacesFollow ⁠Anthony⁠Get DFL Before DNF goods here.Borderlands.cc / @runborderlands

Welcome to Season 1 Episode 5. This season is all about Late Race Survival. How do the consistent finishers push through the desire to quit? We’re interviewing a bunch of great runners from elite to everyday #nopodium plate spinners.——Michael Whiteside, an ultrarunner from Ogden, Utah, shares his experiences running the Wasatch 100 and Bear 100 back-to-back. He talks about his background, how he got into ultrarunning, and the challenges he faced during both races. Despite the physical and mental struggles, Michael pushed through and crossed the finish line. He emphasizes the importance of his support of his crew and pacers in helping him overcome the difficulties. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background02:39 Getting Into Ultrarunning08:07 Preparing for the Wasatch 100 and Bear 10015:19 Running the Wasatch 10028:06 Preparing for the Bear 10031:02 The Challenges of the Bear 10036:41 The Final Stretch and Crossing the Finish Line39:16 Upcoming Races40:07 Local vs Commercial Races40:37 Preserving the Bear and Wasatch Races——Follow ⁠Michael⁠.Get DFL Before DNF goods here.Borderlands.cc / @runborderlands

This elite ultrarunning nutritionist helps us understand how to fuel in and before ultra races so that we can avoid that late race dip in energy and finish well.Jesse Rich, a nutritionist and coach, joins the DFL Before DNF podcast to discuss late race survival in ultrarunning. Jesse shares his personal running journey, his background in nutrition and coaching, and his decision to not pursue sponsorships. He also talks about his FKT attempt on Millwood and the importance of nutrition in long-distance races. Jesse emphasizes the segmented approach to races and the variability in nutrition strategies for different individuals. Overall, his practical and accessible approach to nutrition and running makes him a valuable resource for runners of all levels.TakeawaysSegmenting races into smaller goals can help maintain motivation and focus.Nutrition plays a crucial role in late race survival, and finding a strategy that works for each individual is important.The decision to pursue sponsorships and become a professional runner is a personal one, and it's okay to prioritize other aspects of life.DNFs can provide valuable lessons and learning experiences.Balancing running and coaching can be challenging but rewarding.Variability in nutrition strategies exists, and what works for one person may not work for another.Introduction 00:00Background 02:33Personal Life and Running Journey 06:15Education in Nutrition and Coaching 10:26Balancing Running and Coaching 13:43Identity as a Runner 17:25Decision to Not Pursue Sponsorships 22:28FKT Attempt on Millwood 24:23DNF Experiences 26:07Segmented Approach to Races 29:13Importance of Nutrition in Late Race Survival 32:00Variability in Nutrition Strategies 37:48Follow Jesse.Get DFL Before DNF goods here.Borderlands.cc / @runborderlands

You know Dylan Bowman from Free Trail and as an elite ultratrail runner. We reached out to see how he pushes through the late race urge to quit to see if there’s anything we can learn from his list of great ultra finishes.Follow Dylan on IG (and Freetrail).Freetrail.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

This podcast delves into the compelling question of how ultra runners like Jeremy Cox find the strength to keep going, even in the face of immense physical and mental challenges. Host Josh shares his admiration for Jeremy, who has inspired him through his perseverance during grueling races, including the Wasatch 100. The conversation reflects on their shared experiences, including the emotional toll of DNFing (Did Not Finish) and the importance of having a supportive community. As they explore Jeremy's journey from triathlons to ultra running, listeners gain insight into the mindset required to tackle such daunting distances. The episode emphasizes the significance of resilience and the mental strategies that help runners push through the pain and uncertainty of long races.Jeremy Cox is the subject of our first documentary called DFL Before DNF. I’m so inspired by him as a runner and person. While we did a deep dive in the doc with Jeremy, there’s still more there. There’s always more there.Join us in this conversation with data nerd and grit champion, Jeremy Cox where we discuss how to survive the late race carnage.Follow Jeremy on IG.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. Takeaways: Jeremy Cox's journey into ultra running began after watching the inspiring story of Rick and Dick Hoyt in the Ironman World Championship. Josh reflects on his own struggles with the 100-mile distance and seeks insights from experienced runners like Jeremy. The podcast highlights the importance of mental resilience in ultra running and how to keep pushing through pain. Jeremy emphasizes the significance of problem-solving skills in endurance sports, comparing it to engineering. Both hosts discuss the balance between training for ultra marathons and family responsibilities, reflecting on their personal experiences. The conversation reveals that the emotional and psychological aspects of ultra running play a crucial role in completing races.

Elsa Jaworski joined us in the La Barba Coffee roasting warehouse to talk about late race survival. As co-founder of Women of the Wasatch and a great runner all around, she tells how she keeps going.Elsa got second place at Tahoe 200 and sub-22 hours at Buffalo 100. No doubt she wanted to quit at times so why didn't she? How?!Follow Elsa on IG.Learn more about Women of the Wasatch.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Our mission is to be the heart of trail running but as with any human heart we are a walking contradiction and we know it. We resist the professionalization of trail running and we also obsess over it - even celebrate it.We romanticize about the days before the all the fancy tech but we also geek out on all the new shoes coming out because we love them.We obsess over Western States Endurance Run but frankly we wish it were better. We love structured races but we also love the Speed Project and others like it just as much. And who wouldn’t love that person going big without even tracking it on Strava or announcing it on IG?We’ve had guest that you know and some that you wouldn’t but we guarantee that each episode tells the story of this great sport of ultra running that we’re all falling in love with.Presented by Kiprun.Please give us a follow, rate the podcast, and give a review.----Find us at Borderlands.cc and sign up for the newsletter.Want to run in the Salt Lake area? Check out the Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races happening May 30, 2026.And if you haven't checked out Wylder yet, it's worth a look. iOS or Android