Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

#682 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/682 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Stonefly Nets, Togens Fly Shop, TroutRoutes Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Would you like to fish for steelhead that are so fresh from the salt that they are blue in coloration and not even quite chrome yet How about traveling to a place where it's highly unlikely that you'll see another angler in a full week efficient? Today we're heading into southeast Alaska to find out how to spot and stock big steelhead on pristine Alaskan rivers... Rick Matney, Southeast Alaska steelhead guide, Montana guide, chef, and Alaska immersion program host is gonna share some insight on catching steelhead and some other big species in Alaska. Today we get his best tips on avoiding the crowds, his take on line development, and his experience with Tim Rajeff back in the day. He's going to teach us how to immerse yourself in Alaska and how to not die in an DIY fishing trip. Ocean fishing, salmon, trout, bear observing, cooking... it's all in one trip. Rick's gonna break it all down. So if you're ready to jump in and step into Southeast Alaska and find out how to survive, listen to this episode... Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/682

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/681 Presented By: On DeMark Lodge, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Heated Core, Angler's Coffee Rick Lee, Hawaiian fly fishing master and saltwater expert, is back on the podcast, and today, we're diving into the waters of Christmas Island and Hawaii. Rick's got the scoop on where to find the biggest bonefish, and he's sharing some tips on how to DIY your fly fishing trips across Hawaii. We also dive into the crazy world of triggerfish. Ever wonder why they're called that? Plus, he's got some wild stories about Captain Cook's adventures (and how he met his end in Hawaii). Show Notes with Rick Lee on Christmas Island Fly Fishing. 02:33 - We catch up with Rick Lee since our last chat in Episode 116. Rick is still guiding out of O'ahu while raising his kids. We also discuss the challenges and progress of conserving Hawaii's coastal ecosystems. He said he's helping educate visitors about protecting the bonefish and other species. 07:26 - We catch up with Rick about his time in Hawaii during the COVID-19 pandemic. He was in Christmas Island when things started to get serious and had a narrow escape, catching the last flight home before the island closed for nearly three years. He said tourism in Hawaii took a huge hit, but the silver lining was there was no traffic, no crowds, and empty surf spots. Fishing in Hawaii: What You Need to Know 09:52 - Rick shares some helpful tips for those planning a trip to Hawaii. He said that while Hawaii isn't a top destination for fly fishing, it's a great activity to add to your vacation, especially if you're looking for a few hours of fishing before the family wakes up. Oahu has some of the world's biggest bonefish, but with so many people and tourists, the fishing pressure is high. But Rick still recommends bringing your gear out for an adventure. Aside from bonefish, Rick says you can also fish for triggerfish and some varieties of goatfish. 12:37 - Rick shares that Oahu has flats around the whole island, but winter can bring dangerous surf on the north and west shores, while the south shore gets more giant waves in the summer. For those looking for specific spots, Rick recommends contacting his team for personalized advice based on where you're staying. Gear Rick suggests using a 7 or 8-weight rod, a floating fly line, and a tapered leader. For flies, crazy Charlie patterns in tan, brown, or orange work well, as do mantis shrimp patterns. 17:28 - Rick talks about catching some really big bonefish in Hawaii, with some reaching over 30 inches! The average fish on their charters weighs around 5 pounds, but you can catch ones that are 7-10 pounds pretty often. 22:53 - Rick explains that Hawaii's warm water temps stay consistent all year, from the mid-seventies to low eighties. This means you can fish for bonefish pretty much any day of the year. However, late summer and fall can bring rainy weather and strong winds, making fishing tougher. But if you're up for a challenge, the fishing is still great year-round. Casting in the Wind 23:54 - Rick says the key is to slow down and keep your stroke smooth and powerful. He also recommends casting sidearms to help the fly cut through the wind more efficiently. When it comes to rods, it's all about personal preference, but fast or medium-fast action rods work best for wind and saltwater fishing. As for fly lines, shorter, quicker shooting lines are great for windy days, while longer lines help with delicate casts when the conditions are better. 27:25 - Rick says there used to be a fly shop called Nervous Waters in Hawaii, but it closed down when the owner retired. If you're heading to Hawaii, you must bring everything you need. Fishing at Christmas Island 36:40 - Rick shares about Christmas Island, a remote spot south of Hawaii, where you can fish in a beautiful 145-square-mile lagoon. It's known for its incredible fishing variety, from bonefish and triggerfish to big tuna and sailfish. Triggerfish can grow up to 20 pounds and live in coral forts with special defenses. Rick talks about how tricky it is to catch them, but with the proper techniques, it's one of the world's best places for trigger fishing. Rick explains that a Christmas Island day isn't just about targeting one fish species. You could start with milkfish, which travel in huge schools, and then switch to offshore fishing for tuna or sailfish. After that, it's back to the lagoon to target bonefish and triggerfish. And when you think it's over, giant trevally might pop up. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/681

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/drifthook9 In this Beginner 101 Fly Fishing Solo episode I share the Top 9 dry flies you need if you are just getting started. You can read the full blog post from Drifthook.com at the link above. Send me an email: [email protected] if you have any comments or feedback!

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/679 This episode is presented by TroutRoutes, not only the best mapping app to find the best water but also a company supporting important groups who are pushing for diversity on species and anglers! Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/troutroutes Heather Hodson, an avid spey fishing enthusiast and the founder of United Women on the Fly, shares her exciting initiatives with iFishiBelong.org. We delve into the significance of diversity among anglers, just as vital as the variety of native fish in our cherished streams. We also learn insights from a survey highlighting the role of women in fly fishing. Join us as we discuss the need for swift changes in the industry and explore upcoming events designed to engage and empower the community. Get ready for an inspiring conversation with someone as passionate and busy as me. Episode Chapters with Heather Hodson on iFishiBelong 3:14 - Heather discusses the success and mission of United Women on the Fly, an initiative she has been involved with for eight years that aims to empower and connect women in the fishing community. She notes that while progress has been made, the push for broader industry change has been slow, which led to the creation of her new project, iFishiBelong. This initiative seeks to unite not just women but all people to foster collective change within the fishing industry and beyond, highlighting the need for inclusivity and collaboration to drive progress. 5:45 - We dig into how they started iFishiBelong which aims to create an inclusive environment within the fishing community by advocating for diversity and unity. Heather also explains that while gender discussions are often easier to address, deeper conversations around ethnicity and sexual orientation can be more challenging. The organization aims to bridge these gaps by starting with gender parity and expanding to other areas of diversity. 9:44 - We ask Heather about the evolution of inclusivity in fly fishing, particularly focusing on women's experiences in fly shops. She notes that there has been some progress in making fly shops more welcoming to women, but she emphasizes that change is slower than desired. A survey by United Women on the Fly revealed that while women feel more comfortable in these shops now compared to a decade ago, there's still significant room for improvement. Heather highlights practical steps fly shops can take to fix this. 17:03 - Heather shares that in the current year, their organization successfully hosted four major events focused on inclusivity, both in terms of participant diversity and geographic accessibility. The events took place in New York, Montana, North Carolina, and Oregon. These efforts were supported by TroutRoutes, which sponsored scholarships to help attendees cover costs and hire guides. 20:50 - She talks about the success of their event called Trout Fest held in Oregon and confirms plans to hold it again next year. This is a significant event for the local community, providing support and extensive educational opportunities, particularly in fly fishing techniques and entomology. 24:34 - Heather discusses an initiative called "All Kids Fish" founded by Becca Sue Klein in Atlanta, Georgia. This program focuses on engaging young people, particularly girls initially, in the world of fishing and environmental conservation. A key aspect of the program is its diverse mentorship, ensuring that children see role models who reflect their own identities, whether they are queer, transgender, or come from various racial backgrounds. 31:19 - We get into spey fishing. 37:49 - Heather highlights the advantage of using the TroutRoutes app for camping and fishing. It helps her find campsites and navigate the complexities of public versus private land, particularly in regions with restrictive access laws like Colorado. She also mentions features such as gauge stations, which provide detailed water data, and the ability to mark private waypoints, safeguarding secret fishing spots. 41:28 - She discusses one of their programs called Ubuntu Fly Anglers, co-founded by Bob Bartlett and Carl Crawford. This initiative focuses on advocating and supporting black and brown anglers to foster inclusivity outdoors. They recently held an event in Spokane called "We Are Here," which was impactful and highlighted the importance of representation for black and brown anglers. 46:43 - Heather shares her admiration for Rick Hafele, whom she first met at an event in Spokane about 10 to 12 years ago. A self-proclaimed "bug nerd," she took extensive notes during his presentation on entomology. She finds the study of insects, particularly their changing prevalence due to factors like water temperature and sediment pollution, fascinating. 48:00 - Heather also discusses the Spokane River's rich history as a prolific fishery, despite being impacted by dam constructions like the Grand Coulee Dam. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/679

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/678 Presented By: Grand Teton Fly Fishing, Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company Curious how an 11-year-old girl managed to beat everyone and become the world fly casting champion? Chris Korich, legendary casting coach to top champions like Maxine McCormick, is here to reveal the secrets behind her success. You'll hear Maxine's full story, from winning her first titles at just 9, 10, and 11 years old to outcasting the best in the world. Chris also shares the number one thing every caster should know, along with tips on rod selection, essential gear, and the history of fly rods. Find out why some top pros still swear by 1970s graphite rods to dominate competitions today. Episode Chapters with Chris Korich on How to Become a Fly Casting Champion 02:34 - Chris tells us about his childhood near the Golden Gate Angling and Casting Club in San Francisco. He spent his youth at the Oakland Casting Club, which opened its casting pools in 1958, just blocks from his home. By age eight, he had his first job helping people catch fish. 06:21 - Chris shares how he and his brother stumbled onto their first fishing rod—a discarded, rusty push-button reel they found by chance. They fixed it up and started casting at the trout ponds. The experienced anglers noticed and stepped in to teach them how to cast properly. One of them was Tony Perry, who became Chris's first coach. Coaching Maxine McCormick 09:51 - Chris shares how he became Maxine McCormick's coach. It all began when he got a call from Donna O'Sullivan, who saw Maxine at the Golden Gate Club. Maxine was only 9 when she started, and within a couple of lessons, she was already scoring casts like a pro. 15:56 - In 2013, Maxine started training with her dad, Glenn, just a few months after meeting Chris. They jumped into tournament casting, and five months later, Maxine competed in the National Casting Championship. She outscored every woman in a national competition. By 11, Maxine was making headlines, beating everyone except Chris and Steve. At 12, she became the youngest world champion in the sport. 30:06 - Chris explains that starting with a full-flex rod, like the ones from the old days, helps you feel the line better. He also talks about the benefits of shorter rods, especially for beginners or those fishing in windy conditions. 40:49 - We chat about the best fly rods for beginners, especially for kids. Chris discusses how shorter, softer rods, like fiberglass or combination graphite-glass ones, work great for new casters. He shares a cool story where 22 women tried different rods, and everyone picked a short fiberglass rod as their favorite. It helps them feel the line better and roll cast more easily. 54:10 - Chris shares a fun exercise with a butter knife to help listeners understand the importance of "feel" when fly casting. 1:00:59 - Chris explains that while many anglers still use long rods, the trend is starting to shift. He compares it to skiing, where shorter skis became popular to help beginners learn, and then they went back to longer skis—only to eventually return to shorter ones again. Chris believes that shorter rods make fly fishing easier, especially for beginners, and encourages anglers to try them out. 1:10:51 - Chris says there's no doubt that Steve Ray Jeff is the greatest fly caster in history. 1:13:11 - Chris shares the impressive story of Maxine, who broke records at the world fly casting championships in Norway. Despite limited training, she scored 80 points in accuracy and won multiple gold medals. Maxine is also focused on finishing her biology degree while still finding time to fly fish and work at a fly shop. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/678

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/677 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton Today, we explore Fly Fish Food Jimmy's, a top fly shop in the West, now under new management. Join us as we speak with Madison Losee, the new shop manager. She'll share tips for your next fly fishing trip, including ways to avoid crowds on the famous Henry's Fork and her preferred techniques over the dry dropper method in summer. Madison will also share stories, including a surprise visit from a celebrity. Whether you're heading to Idaho or looking to up your fishing game, this episode is filled with insights you won't want to miss! Episode Chapters with Madison Losee on Fly Fish Food Jimmy's 2:17 - Madison explains that after a changeover, the fly shop significantly increased its inventory, especially in fly selection, now offering four times as many flies as before. This expansion was aimed at accommodating the needs of both local fly tying enthusiasts and visitors preparing for fishing trips. The shop is positioned as a central hub for anglers heading to famous fishing destinations such as the Henry's Fork and the South Fork of the Snake River, benefiting from its strategic location near major highways. 4:01 - She discusses her background and experience leading up to her first managerial role at Fly Fish Food Jimmy's. She explains that while this is her first position as a manager, she has a strong retail background from high school and has grown up working for her family's drift boat company, giving her a long-standing connection to the fly fishing industry. 6:47 - Madison talks about the experience of running a fly shop in Idaho Falls, which attracts both locals and tourists. Common questions from visitors include where to fish and what equipment to use. She also highlights the shop's proximity to prime fishing locations like Henry's Fork and South Fork, which are about 30 to 45 minutes away from town. 10:45 - She describes the team at the fly shop. Madison has been with the shop since June of the previous year. She enjoys interacting with regular customers, learning from experienced fly fishers, and staying updated on new products and gear, which she finds both fun and educational. 21:41 - We talk about Jimmy Gabettas, who was the owner of Jimmy's All Seasons Angler before it was bought by Fly Fish Food. Madison shares that Jimmy is enjoying his retirement by taking bucket list trips, including a recent one to Mongolia, and continues to engage in fishing and hunting. Despite retiring, he still visits the shop regularly to stock up on tying materials and shares his fishing experiences with the staff. 15:04 - Madison mentions spending considerable time fishing in Wyoming and expresses particular enjoyment in fishing the Snake River through Jackson, indicating it's a favorite spot. 17:02 - We talk about fishing in the Snake River area in western Wyoming, specifically through Grand Teton National Park and Jackson Hole. Madison explains that while having a boat allows for covering more water, it is not essential for fishing there, though caution is advised due to areas with strong whitewater currents. 19:13 - We get into the best times to fish the South Fork of the Snake River. She mentions that although fishing is possible year-round, her favorite times are May and June during runoff, and especially July during the salmon fly hatch. She explains that this hatch is influenced by water temperatures and can be followed through different sections of the river, typically lasting a couple of weeks from the end of June to early July. 20:24 - Madison shares her preference for using large dry flies rather than a dry dropper setup, highlighting her technique of casting close to overhanging trees and "twitching" the fly to attract fish. She emphasizes the importance of precision in casting, even at the risk of losing flies to tree branches, and describes the satisfaction of making a perfect cast. She also explains her method of twitching the fly by wiggling the rod tip to create movement, which she finds effective in attracting cutthroat trout on the South Fork. 25:37 - She mentions the products available at the shop. Madison also recommends some gear to bring when you a plan a fishing trip to their area. When it comes to casting instruction, she mentions that due to the shop's downtown location, they don't offer in-person coaching. 28:01 - I briefly share about my recent interview with Chris Korich, the coach of renowned fly caster Maxine McCormick. Chris shared insights on how Maxine began casting at the age of nine and quickly won championships, attributing part of her success to the type of rod used. Our episode with Chris will be released in November. 30:46 - Madison describes the experience of visiting their fly shop, highlighting their extensive fly-tying materials section. The shop maintains its original structure, with enhancements for more inventory. 35:48 - She highlights her top flie

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/676 Presented By: Visit Helena, MT On a recent drive across the country, I swung into Helena, Montana. We stopped for a beer, some gear for the trip, and hung out at a local park. And I'll be back this year to fish the mighty Missouri, one of the great rivers out West. In this episode, you're going to hear about a person who sold her business to go all in on fly fishing and where she's focusing her efforts this year. If you're new to fly fishing, then this episode is going to give you some tools and resources to let you know where to start the right way. Shalon Hastings, fly fishing instructor guide, an all-around badass fly angler is gonna take us into the Big Mo. You're gonna hear about some of the first things she does with a new student and some things you can take away on this if you're just getting started. And she's gonna talk about why entomology is something you should be learning about. Plus, she's gonna clear the air about women fly fishing in bikinis, all this stuff. We're gonna talk about it and she might have a little different take than you were thinking. We're heading back to the Big Missouri, the Big Mo this year. Let's find out how to do it the right way. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/676

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/675 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, FishHound Expeditions Today, we're honoring one of the greatest voices in fly fishing, John Gierach, who passed away in October. I first recorded this episode with John in 2018, right after starting the podcast. John was already a huge inspiration to many with his stories and deep love for mountain streams and fly fishing. In this episode, we'll hear about John's early life and how he started writing, why he loves fly fishing, especially the mountain streams of Colorado, and some of his biggest mentors who influenced him over the years. Some we've had on this podcast since this episode. I was so excited when we first had John on, and he said yes to doing an episode because it was early on in this podcast, and he was one of the biggest, maybe the biggest, I knew out there. There are so many great stories in this one. John also came back for a second episode, and it was a dream that I never told anybody about to have John on for a podcast series so we could dig into all or many of his books. We never quite got there, of course, but we do have his voice today that should inspire all of us in his words of writing and books for years to come. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/675

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/674 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/togiak George Krumm, editor of Fish Alaska Magazine and all-around fishy dude, is going to share his experience on Alaska grand slam catching all five salmon species in the same day on a recent trip to the Togiak River. You're going to find out which technique he used to make it happen; where some of the other great trips are around Alaska and things you should be thinking about; and what he thinks is the best thing to help turn around the Chinook decline for the Pacific rim. Plus you're gonna found out how you can plan your Alaska trip easily with a resource at Fish Alaska Magazine. Episode Chapters with George Krumm on Alaska Grand Slam 3:06 - George began his journey into fly fishing when he was about seven years old. His dad gave him a small vice and showed him how to tie flies. The very first fly he tied was a gray hackle peacock. George became truly passionate about fly fishing when he started catching fish with the flies he had tied himself. 5:08 - He shares a bit about how he began his career at Fish Alaska. Melissa Norris and his brother, Marcus, founded both Fish Alaska and Hunt Alaska magazines. For Fish Alaska, George primarily writes about fly fishing. Additionally, they have a "Fly of the Month" column, which is sponsored by Mossy's Fly Shop. 8:12 - George first connected with the Larsen brothers, who own the Togiak River Lodge, during his visit in 2022. His goal was to explore Chinook fishing and write a story about it. Unfortunately, the trip wasn't very successful due to poor water and weather conditions. Despite this, George believes that the Togiak River is a standout location for Chinook fly fishing, as it still boasts strong runs of fish in various sizes. 11:48 - George visited the lodge in mid-August this year, aiming to catch coho salmon on a fly. He successfully caught all five species of Pacific salmon—Chinook, coho, sockeye, chum, and pink salmon—in a single day on a fly rod. His cousin Tom achieved this feat twice in one week. 13:39 - He describes their success, noting that on an average day, he and Tom caught over 75 salmon of various species. Although their main goal was silvers, they caught multiple types of salmon, with the King salmon being the most challenging to catch at that time of year. Interestingly, they managed to achieve a "grand slam" of catching various salmon species by accident. 15:40 - We discuss sockeye salmon, which are less talked about in freshwater fishing. George mentions significant runs in areas like Naknek and Kenai. Sockeye are valued for their red meat and while they usually feed on plankton in the ocean, they can become territorial and bite more when in large groups. For Chum salmon George mentions that they are strong fighters, often leading to broken rods, though they might not look impressive. Pink salmon are smaller and change color quickly, causing them to be underrated, but fresh pinks are tasty, similar to trout. 20:31 - George enjoys the methodical aspect of spey casting, especially for winter steelhead, where catching even one fish is rewarding. He contrasts this with the excitement of fishing in the Togiak River, where large fish are caught more frequently. 26:47 - George highlights the Togiak River Lodge's multiple packages for anglers. He also notes an important change in their policy: during the first few weeks of the fishing season, the lodge will limit the number of anglers from 24 to 14. This adjustment is aimed at providing a better experience for those specifically interested in fishing for King salmon. 27:34 - We dig into the evolving perspectives on fishing practices in Alaska, emphasizing a shift away from the traditional "whack them and stack them" mentality towards more sustainable approaches. George highlights the importance of targeting abundant fish species such as sockeye, pink, and coho salmon, while questioning the necessity of taking large quantities of fish home. Our conversation highlights the need for anglers to adapt to changing times and prioritize sustainable practices. While Alaska has been perceived as having unlimited fish supplies, current trends suggest a need for caution and conservation. 33:36 -We discuss the current state of fly fishing and the associated challenges in different regions, including Alaska and the Skeena system. Fishing restrictions, such as closures on Chinook fishing, are not only happening in Alaska but in other areas as well. 38:50 - George recounts spending extensive time fishing on the Kenai River and now frequently visits the Naknek River for its excellent rainbow trout fishing opportunities. He also highlights the overlooked potential of stillwater fishing around Anchorage and the Kenai Peninsula. He notes that many lakes in Alaska are stocked with fish and, unlike in the lower 48 states, they are not heavily fished. This means that these lakes often contain multiple age classes

#673 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/673 Presented By: Waters West, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Drifthook Fly Fishing Have you heard about Clean the Dream? It's one of Landon Mayer's favorite events, and today, Scott Robertson is here to tell us all about it. Scott shares the history of this inspiring cleanup at the Dream Stream, how it's evolved, and why it matters to anglers everywhere. Find out how saving your tippets can make a difference. Episode Chapters with Scott Robertson on Clean the Dream We're giving away a huge trip to hit the water with Landon Mayer and learn sight-fishing for massive trout! Enter now for your chance to win. 02:16 - Scott met Landon Mayer 12 years ago through their mutual friend, Brandon Kramer, who co-founded Clean the Dream with Landon. 05:22 - The Dream Stream is a five-mile stretch of the South Platte River between Eleven Mile and Spinney Mountain Reservoirs. This area crosses three different state lands: Spinney Mountain State Park, Charlie Meyers State Wildlife Area, and Eleven Mile State Park. Clean the Dream 08:04 - Clean the Dream started about ten years ago with only 20 people, but it's grown significantly since then. Now, more sponsors give out prizes, which makes the event more exciting. Clean the Dream event usually happens the third weekend in August. Tips for Organizing a Successful Cleanup Event 11:17 - If you want to host a cleanup event like Clean the Dream, there are a few key things to remember. Get the word out. Use Social Media - Promote your event on all platforms and get others with a following to share it. Find Sponsors - Reach out to brands for donations or prizes. Local Businesses -If you can't get big brands, local stores can help, too! Flyers - Don't underestimate the power of good old-fashioned flyers. Talk to your local jurisdiction. 19:52 - You don't need to sign up to join the event. Head to the bridge lot around 8 a.m. on the third weekend in August. Scott says they prepare coffee, juice, and pastries to start the day. Once you're set, you'll get a bucket, trash grabber, bags, and gloves. The cleanup lasts about four hours, so you can pitch in for as long as possible. Afterward, a lunch with pulled pork, hot dogs, and chips wraps up the day. 21:45 - This year's cleanup had over 200 people—ten times more than when it started. Scott says they're planning something bigger for the 10th anniversary next year. 23:41 - Scott's love for fishing started when he was 15 with his dad in Hawaii. He explained that while fly fishing wasn't common on the Big Island, he enjoyed saltwater fishing. Moving to Colorado sparked his interest in fly fishing, especially after working in the Bahamas, where he learned about bone fishing. IMG_6021 Check out @clean_the_dream on Instagram for more updates. Don't miss your chance to join Landon Mayero for your shot at sight-fishing for massive trout! Visit https://wetflyswing.com/giveaway Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/673

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/672 Presented By: Waters West, Yellowstone Teton Territory, FishHound Expeditions, Heated Core Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors If you had the choice between sight fishing for big trout or nipping down deep, which one would you choose? And what about streamers versus Dries? Do you have an opinion there? And which of all these techniques do you need more help with right now? Today's guest is an expert in all of these disciplines, And. today we're going to help you build a foundation to better understand when and where to site fish effectively for big trout. Landon Mayer, South Platte guide, master show speaker, and our trout school professor will be walking us through the trip we're heading out to this year. You're gonna find out how to prepare for a trip if you're focused on site fishing for big trout, what reactions from fish really mean and how to decide when to fish deep or go shallow and what you should do when you can't see the fish. We're gonna talk about it all today, plus you're gonna get Landon's best health tip on eating and staying fit. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/672

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/671 Presented By: Stonefly Nets, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Have you ever been confused about how to choose the best fly line for your next fly rod? Did you know that line companies typically overweight lines out of the box to help us out? And are you interested in learning about the process of getting the perfect line for the exact situation you will be fishing this year? Today, we take a trip back into Scientific Anglers, so you have a clear path of selecting the best and perfect line for your next big trip this season. Josh Jenkins, R&D manager at Scientific Anglers will shed light on what's new this season and some of their best-selling fly lines. You're going to get some background on the core and the coating and understand how this will help you understand which lines to choose. You're going to discover how to match the leader with your fly line and why the leader is essentially just a mini fly line. We're going to get into that today and we're also going to find out how and why you should be choosing the fly line first and matching your rod to the fly line. Better put, we're going to show you why fly leader line rod and reel is the order you should follow. Josh clarifies it all today. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/671

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/670 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, FishHound Expeditions, TroutRoutes, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Josh Mills, a seasoned expert from the Backcountry Hunters & Anglers team, as well as a board member of the Wild Steelhead Coalition and an accomplished steelhead fly tier, is set to guide us through the Clearwater River and public waters and lands. Today, you'll learn how to adjust your reel technique for enhanced stealth. We'll also provide an update on the status of the Lower Snake River dams and their current developments. Additionally, you'll discover what a public lands yard sale entails. Moreover, we'll analyze a significant western stream to improve your success on the water this year. Together, we'll delve deep into the topics of steelhead fishing and conservation. Let's begin our journey. Episode Chapters with Josh Mills on Public Waters and Lands 3:19 - We talk about our top destinations for steelhead fishing. Josh feels fortunate to fish in local rivers like the Clearwater and Salmon, but he reminisces about a memorable trip to the Skeena region in 2012 and plans to return in 2025. He also dreams of fishing in Northern California, inspired by historical figures in the steelhead community. 12:15 - Josh discusses his fishing strategy, focusing on the Clearwater River. He fishes the Clearwater from August through September, as fish from different basins, including the Snake and Grand Ronde Rivers, seek the cold water as a thermal refuge. He notes the Clearwater can be a challenging but rewarding river to fish. Once the thermal block breaks, fish often return to the Snake River, and Josh shifts his focus to the Grand Ronde system. 16:11 - We ask Josh for advice on fly patterns for steelhead fishing on the Deschutes River in October. He responds by emphasizing the unpredictable nature of steelhead fishing, suggesting that success often depends on the angler's confidence and intuition rather than specific fly patterns. He explains that steelhead are curious and might bite at almost anything due to aggression, predatory instincts, or curiosity. 23:31 - We dig into his involvement with Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA) and the Wild Steelhead Coalition. He initially got involved by running fundraisers and joining the board of the latter, which led him deeper into conservation efforts. He started volunteering with BHA in 2015, an organization dedicated to protecting public lands and waters in North America. Josh felt compelled to protect these lands, recognizing their importance for recreation and conservation. 28:57 - We get into the complexities of public land and water access laws in the United States, particularly focusing on differences between states. Josh elaborates on the varied stream access laws across states, highlighting how states like Washington, Idaho, and Montana have more permissive laws, while Colorado and Utah face significant challenges. 42:37 - We discuss Josh's experiences and growth in fly fishing. Josh emphasizes the continuous nature of learning and improving in fishing. He talks about the technical skills involved, such as casting and line management, and how observing skilled anglers like Brian Chou and others has inspired him. Josh admires their proficiency in handling challenging conditions and accurately predicting fish locations. Josh acknowledges that despite trying to replicate the techniques of skilled anglers, there are subtle differences in execution that impact results. He emphasizes the importance of learning from others and adapting various techniques, such as transitioning between different fly lines. 45:58 - We compare fishing the Clearwater River versus in the Deschutes. Josh highlights the former's larger size, which offers more room for casting and allows for different fishing techniques. He notes that unlike the Deschutes, where sun orientation impacts fishing strategies, the Clearwater allows for dry line fishing throughout winter. He also mentions the genetic traits of Clearwater fish that make them more likely to rise through the water. Additionally, he compares the river sizes and flow variability, explaining how the Clearwater's dam-controlled nature affects fishing conditions. Despite the challenges, Josh appreciates the unique fishing opportunities both rivers offer, with each having its own "secrets" and characteristics. 49:07 - Josh gives some valuable tips on fishing for steelhead in Clearwater. He suggests visiting the Red Shed Fly Shop for advice and emphasizes the importance of focusing on manageable sections of large rivers. He explains that understanding where fish rest and conserving energy is crucial. For rods, Josh notes that it varies with the season. He enjoys using a 15-foot rod with a 60-foot line but adapts his technique based on conditions. 54:39 - We discuss the dynamics of fly fishing, particularly focusing on the experience of fishing with highly skilled casters. Josh a

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/668 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop If you've ever watched a fly fishing YouTube video, there's a good chance you've come across one produced by today's guest, Colin McKeown. Colin sadly passed away last month, and today I want to re-release an interview I did with him in 2019. Colin was behind one of the largest fly fishing YouTube channels and inspired many in the industry. Show Notes with Celebrating the Life of Colin Mckeown. I want to take this moment to celebrate his life and encourage anyone impacted by his work to reach out to his family, The New Fly Fisher team, or even to me if you'd like to share how Colin inspired you or influenced your fishing journey. In this episode, we dive into Colin's background, and how he started The New Fly Fisher, and we'll talk about Atlantic Salmon, Newfoundland, and his full story. This is from 2019, and as I mentioned, Colin passed away in September of 2024. This is a rerelease of Episode 084. If you'd like to listen to the original episode, you can find it here. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/668

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/667 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Stonefly Nets, Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Have you attended The Fly Fishing Show recently? Did you know that the Fly Fishing Show by the Furimskys is the largest fly fishing show in the world? And what is it about these shows that made them so successful in the past and today? Today you're going to find out what's new with the Fly Fishing Show so you know how to get more out of it if you attend this season. Ben Furimsky, owner of The Fly Fishing Show takes us into a deep dive behind the scenes of the show. You're going to find out why his event planner job is one of the most stressful jobs in the world, next to a police and a firefighter. You're going to find out how a fly designer is similar to a chef. Ben is a fly designer and has been a guide for many years in the past. And we're going to let you know why you should be attending this year and why you should attend the full show and not for an hour. Plus, you're also going to find out about the consumer choice awards that they do at the show. Here we go! Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/667

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/666 Presented By: TroutRoutes, Waters West, Togens Fly Shop, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, Joe Rist and I will journey to fly fishing the Catskills, often hailed as the birthplace of American fly fishing. Join us as we uncover the rich history of this iconic region, explore the streams of the Beaver Kill and the Delaware branches, and discover why this area holds such a special place in the hearts of anglers. With Joe's expert insights, you'll learn valuable tips on dry fly fishing and perfecting your casting techniques. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a curious novice, this episode promises to deepen your appreciation for fly fishing in one of the most storied landscapes in the U.S. Episode Chapters with Joe Rist on Fly Fishing the Catskills 1:54 - We explore Joe's journey into fly fishing, sparked by his father's introduction with basic fishing gear. His passion solidified after catching his first brook trout in Maine and starting "Fish Camp" with friends. Joe transitioned to guiding professionally after retiring from the post office at 55. Following the passing of the shop's owner, Joe, with no retail experience but support from his family, successfully opened Trout Town Flies, now in its fifth year. 7:48 - We talk about the history of fly fishing in the Catskill region. Joe highlights its significance as "holy waters," noting contributions from pioneers like Theodore Gordon and George La Branche. The Catskill Fly Fishing Center & Museum, covering 50 acres, showcases important figures and artifacts in fly fishing, including the resurgence of interest among younger people during the Covid pandemic. 11:12 - Joe offers advice on the best fishing times in the Catskills, recommending May for dry fly fishing due to ideal temperatures. He suggests novice-friendly rivers like Beaver Kill and Willow, while recommending the East and West Branches of the Delaware River for experienced anglers. 16:22 - For lodging and camping, Joe explains that while there is ample lodging, prime time (late April to early June) requires early reservations starting in December or January. The area has modest accommodations catering to fishermen, including notable places like Roscoe Motel, Riverside Cafe & Lodge, Red Rose, and Rockland House. For DIY camping, there are several state campgrounds, including Butternut Grove, Roscoe Campsite Park, and Peaceful Valley on the Delaware. 18:50 - Joe reveals that his shop makes 60-70% of its flies in-house. He highlights the significance of tying flies like cripples and emergers, as well as traditional Catskill flies. He also recounts creating the brown floating nymph (BFN) after noticing fish feeding on a specific insect on the West Branch of the Delaware. 25:29 - We get into the other flies he uses in the Catskills. Joe uses the gray fox, cahill, and red quill, effectively on their rivers. He provides a tip for modifying a red quill to mimic a rusty spinner. 28:35 - We focus on fishing the Beaver Kill. Joe notes that the Beaver Kill is more accessible for novice fly fishermen due to its high gradient, which helps correct casting errors. He also mentions that it is stocked with brown trout by the New York State. 32:06 - Our conversation shifts to fishing techniques, where Joe explains the importance of positioning above the fish and allowing the current to deliver the fly naturally. He mentions that in the east, anglers need to feed a lot of line—sometimes 70 to 80 feet—to achieve this, which can be challenging but necessary for successful fishing. 33:24 - Joe elaborates on fishing in the Delaware system, highlighting the commonality of catching large fish, including 21-27 inch fish. He explains the strength and resilience of these fish, particularly due to the cold, fast-moving waters. He also mentions migratory fish like shad and stripers that enter the Delaware system, and the presence of smallmouth bass in areas like the Beaver Kill. He notes that while there are various fish species, anglers predominantly seek large rainbows and browns. 38:05 - We talk about the fishing regulations and conditions in New York. Joe explains that the fishing season runs year-round, with specific rules: from April 1st to October 15th, regular fishing with size and catch limits is allowed; from October 16th to March 31st, it's catch and release only, with no live bait. 39:33 - Joe mentions temperature inversions in the Delaware River's tail waters, which affect fishing conditions. Milder winters have led to earlier fishing and hatches, with some species appearing sooner. He highlights that the tail waters offer consistent fishing opportunities, even in warmer months, and details the fishable waters: 17 miles on the west branch and variable conditions on the east branch. 42:03 - Joe describes their guiding and fishing techniques in the Catskills. 46:16 - For new anglers fishing the west branch of a large river, Joe emphasizes t

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/665 Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Angler's Coffee, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory Jonathan Farmer, steelhead fly tying guru and author of Chasing Chrome: Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies is here to take us into his world of Alaska and steelhead fishing. We'll hear the stories behind flies like the Graboid, Led Zep Prawn, and Mini Me, plus why Jonathan's shifting to more natural patterns and how he picks his colors. Jonathan ties some of the cleanest flies you'll ever see. He's been putting in 40 to 70 hours a week for over 10 years! Find out why so many people are looking him up and how his book is packed with tips to help you understand fly design. Ready to pick up some tricks from a pro? Grab a notepad. You're going to want to jot these down! Show Notes with Jonathan Farmer on Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies. 11:17 – Fly fishing started for Jonathan when he was just 17 during a backcountry camp in Colorado. He started with conventional fishing and even joined tournaments in Texas. He worked on sport fishing yachts in South Florida before moving to Alaska, where he got into fly fishing. 12:14 – Jonathan shares that each season in Alaska offers unique opportunities. In spring, he loves stone fly fishing on the Kenai. Summer brings great dry fly action and swinging wet flies. By fall, fish target spawning sockeye. Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies Chasing Chrome: Tying Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies 21:20 – Jonathan talks about how he always wanted to write a fishing book. A few years ago, he started jotting down thoughts but put them aside. He teamed up with Mike at Mossy's Fly Shop for help with photos. 24:18 – The book features Jonathan's favorite steelhead and Pacific salmon flies, complete with step-by-step instructions. He says the book wouldn't be what it is without Marty Howard's input on its layout and design. Marty also co-wrote the book Steelhead Fly Tying Art and Design with Dec Hogan. Check out our episode with Dec Hogan here! Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies The Book's Creation 30:37 – Jonathan said the toughest part of writing his book was the editing process. He followed Marty's advice and printed three copies for friends to review. Visit Jonathan's website or Instagram to grab your copy of his book. You can also get a signed copy, which comes with three flies from the book! 34:07 – The book covers fly-tying techniques and color choices. Jonathan mentioned that while some flies, like the Led Zep Prawn, are super fun to tie, they can be complex. He enjoys having a fly box just to admire the cool designs, even if he doesn't fish with all of them all the time. Watch this video of Jonathan tying the Led Zep Prawn on Youtube: The Challenge of Naming Flies 36:08 – There are 21 unique flies in the book that Jonathan created himself. He said that designing flies is probably easier than naming them. "The Graboid," was named by a friend without even knowing it. Many of his flies have music-themed names, like "Sure Shot," inspired by the Beastie Boys, and "Crown Jewel," from Brother Ali. He even has a tube fly named "Zoomer," which was created during a Zoom course. Finding the Perfect Steelhead Fly Proportions 52:29 – Jonathan has been tying flies for nearly a decade and puts in a serious amount of hours—sometimes 70 a week! 53:26 – We dive into how to balance materials when tying the perfect steelhead fly. It's all about finding the right proportions—not too sparse, but not overly bulky either. If a fly feels too full, he advises creating a channel to slim it down. Jonathan reminds us that even experienced tiers sometimes end up with flies that are a bit bulkier than intended, and it's okay to make adjustments. 55:39 – Bulky flies don't move or breathe well in the water, which affects how they mimic bait. A fly that casts poorly or looks stiff in the water won't attract fish. Jonathan uses a tank in his office to test the movement of his flies. If it doesn't swim or breathe right after a few hours, it's a no-go for him, and he tosses it. The Mini-Me Graboid Jonathan shares the story of the Mini-Me fly. The Mini Me uses pine squirrel instead of rabbit, making it a smaller, more versatile fly. Jonathan uses it for steelhead, coho, and trout, especially in colors like black and red or black and blue. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/665

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/664 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, TroutRoutes, Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Doug Myers, head man at Fly Fishing Veterans, is going to share his story of serving in the Air Force today before fighting fires for over 30 years. We're going to hear about some of his home waters in Oregon, Montana and Idaho, and we're going to hear which place he'd choose to settle down in forever if he had to pick just one. Plus, you're going to hear about Diamond Lake and where you can find 30-inch trout, including those illustrious tiger trout. In today's episode, you are going to get an inside view into a relatively new veterans group and the fly tying and fly fishing expo that you're going to want to attend this year. We're going to find out what it takes to build a program to help veterans and how you can get involved to help some folks in your region or your part of the world. And we are going to talk fishing today, a little tiger trout and a little brown trout is going to round out today's episode. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/664

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/663 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Smitty's Fly Box, FishHound Expeditions, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Welcome to our latest episode, where we delve into the exciting world of UK fly fishing with none other than Chris Hague, an elite fly casting instructor and guide. In this episode, we explore the intricacies of fly fishing in the UK and Iceland, focusing on the majestic Atlantic salmon and the art of spey fishing. Chris shares his expert insights on the best techniques, the top locations for catching wild rainbows, and the current state of salmon fishing in Scotland. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a curious beginner, this episode is packed with valuable tips and fascinating stories. Episode Chapters with Chris Hague on UK Fly Fishing 4:19 - Chris' interest in fishing began at a young age, influenced by living close to various fishing spots and seeing salmon fishing on family holidays in Wales. His passion for fly fishing led him to focus exclusively on it. About 20 years ago, he began taking exams to become a fly fishing instructor, starting with entry-level certifications and advancing to more complex qualifications, including those from the Fly Fishers International (FFI). 10:14 - Chris describes the current situation of salmon runs in the UK and how it compares to other locations. The UK has experienced a decline in salmon populations with little improvement. He shares his recent experience fishing on the River Tweed in Scotland, where he caught a 13-pound fish but notes the effort required and the scarcity of fish. Chris contrasts this with Iceland's successful ranching policy, where larger fish are placed in holding pens and a select number of fish are used for breeding. 13:48 - Chris offers spey casting lessons, including single-handed and double-handed workshops, and guided fishing trips for species like trout and pike. He notes that traveling for salmon fishing requires a three-hour drive. 14:32 - He describes his typical two-handed setup for salmon fishing, including a 12'7" Mackenzie FX2 rod made of carbon and graphene, paired with a Lamson reel and a shooting head system. He emphasizes the versatility of multi-tip line setups, which allow anglers to adjust their fishing strategy quickly without carrying heavy gear. He prefers traveling light and uses this adaptable setup to efficiently cover different fishing conditions. 19:18 - Chris explains they are currently designing a new line for Mackenzie, and he describes the evolution of fishing lines, noting that Skagit and Scandi lines emerged around the same time. Skagit lines were short and designed for throwing heavy, large flies, while Scandi lines offered better presentation but were still relatively short. Chris mentions the development of hybrid lines that combine the benefits of both Skagit and Scandi lines, being short but offering better presentation. 21:07 - He mentions the Lamson Guru reel which he says complements the black, orange, and white Mackenzie rods. Mackenzie was founded by Scott Mackenzie, a world champion distance caster. The company has gained recognition for its innovative rods, especially those incorporating graphene, a material known for its strength and stability. This has led to the Mackenzie rods winning several awards in the UK. Additionally, Chris mentions that Mackenzie is expanding their product line to include clothing and various types of rods, including those for tight line nymphing, saltwater fishing, and predator fishing, with new products expected in 2025. 23:49 - Chris recounts catching a 30-pound fish in the River Tweed using a 12ft 7wt rod while fishing from a boat. He mentions that the boat is maneuvered manually by gillies, who have impressive arm strength due to their constant rowing. Chris describes the fishing experience, noting the gentle take of the fish and how he adapted his technique by changing the depth and fly used. 26:35 - For those planning a fishing trip to the UK, Chris suggests that while the UK has fantastic rivers, access can be challenging due to many being members-only. He mentions that many anglers travel to places like Iceland and Norway for better fishing experiences. He prefers Iceland because he can reach rivers there faster than in Scotland and finds the fishing quality superior. 30:24 - We dig into the history and evolution of spey casting. He explains that spey casting originated in the 1880s with fishermen who needed a technique to cast in limited space and under various wind conditions. 34:41 - We talk about salmon fishing techniques, particularly in Iceland and the UK. Chris explains that early in the season, larger and more aggressive fish are more likely to chase bigger flies, whereas later in the season, fish become more cautious and prefer smaller flies. He shares insights on how to keep the fly in front of the fish longer by manipulating the line without creating too much slack. 40:37 -

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/662 Presented By: Stonefly Nets, TroutRoutes, Smitty's Fly Box In today's Littoral Zone episode, Phil chats with Jason Randall about what trout see and why it matters. Jason has written four books, including his famous trout trilogy, which dives deep into how trout behave in their environment. While Jason's passion lies in rivers and streams, the research and knowledge he's amassed is equally beneficial to stillwater fly fishers. ]His understanding of how trout see is crucial information for all fly fishers, guiding both our pattern selection and presentation techniques, information that helps us consistently make the correct pattern and presentation choice. Show Notes with Jason Randall on What Trout See and Why it Matters. 2:20 - Jason Randall graduated as a veterinarian and did postgraduate work in fish health and medicine. Although he considered a career in fisheries, he ultimately chose private practice. 4:16 - Jason started fly fishing around 40 years ago but got frustrated early on due to a lack of guidance. He took a break, then later tried again this time with the help of great mentors. Jason says his passion really started during a trip to Colorado. A guide introduced him to a caddis hatch that transformed the river into a feeding frenzy of trout. Watching the stream come alive with caddis and rising fish was a game-changer for Jason. 08:21 - Jason says he was lucky to have some amazing mentors like George Kustin who guided him in fly fishing and taught him about wet flies and soft tackles. Lefty Kreh took Jason under his wing. 09:31 - Jason also works with Temple Fork Outfitters on rod design and prototype testing. This year, they introduced a new European Nymphing Rod called the Elevare, which won Best New Rod at ICAST 2024. Books by Jason Randall 13:00 - Jason's trout fishing trilogy started in 2012 with Jay Nichols from Stackpole Books. The trilogy covers: Feeding Time: A Fly Fisher's Guide to What, When and Where Trout Eat Trout Sense: A Fly Fisher's Guide to What Trout See, Hear, and Smell Moving Water: A Fly Fisher's Guide to Currents Jason also wrote Nymph Masters, a collaborative effort featuring tips from top nymph anglers like Gary Borger and Lefty Kreh. Trout Sense 17:00 - Trout begins life as prey, eating small organisms like plankton. As they grow, they become predators, feeding on insects, crustaceans, and even small fish or mammals. They retain the wide-set eyes of prey for spotting threats and the sharp focus of predators for hunting. This makes them tricky to catch. 21:10 - Jason explains how light works differently underwater, which affects how trout see. Refraction, or the bending of light when it moves from air to water, can also trick us into thinking we're casting right over a fish, but we could be a few feet off. 26:08 - Jason dives into how color fades underwater, starting with red, and how different colors are absorbed at various depths. Fluorescent colors like chartreuse stand out the most and create a strong contrast, which trout notice. 29:18 - Unlike humans, a trout's pupils don't adjust to light, and their eyes have a football-like shape that lets them see clearly both in front and to the side. Search Image and How Trout Decide to Eat 42:11 - Trout uses a "search image" to figure out what's food and what's not. They focus on four things: size, shape (profile), movement, and color. If a fish keeps ignoring your fly from far away, it's probably the size or shape that's off. But if they come close, and then turn away, Jason says that it may be a color-based refusal. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/662

https://wetflyswing.com/q4 In this short episode I give you a super quick episode that updates you on our podcast plans for the next month or so. We will be taking a small brake from 3 episodes a week until Dave gets back from the fall school schedule. Head over to Schooloffishing.co if you want to find out what trips we have going now.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/660 Today Brian chats with Curtis Ciszek, Eric Jackson, and returning guest, Darcy Bacha. These guys are known in the snowboarding industry. They are also passionate steelhead anglers. They talk about the movie they did in the Skeena called Alignment and touch on some fishing and hunting stories and insights in Northern BC. It's time to get in the bucket... https://inthebucketpodcast.com/

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/659 Presented By: TroutRoutes, Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we explore the thrilling world of Texas redfish fishing with expert guide Rick Hartman. Rick shares invaluable tips on casting in windy conditions, identifying nervous waters, and practicing techniques that will improve your chances of catching redfish, trout, tarpon, and other saltwater species. Join us as we uncover the secrets to successful fishing, including how to mark your line for more accurate casts and the surprising truth about whether a redfish will take a bare hook. Rick also provides a step-by-step guide on planning your next fishing trip to South Texas, ensuring you know what to do and what to avoid. Episode Chapters with Rick Hartman on Texas Redfish Adventures 1:38 - Rick recounts his introduction to fly fishing, which began accidentally through older family members during childhood trips to farm ponds and the mountains. He explains that he didn't realize fly fishing could be done in saltwater until he was in junior high. 5:35 - He describes the Lower Laguna Madre area in South Texas. It's a remote area with few access points, mainly through Port Isabel and Port Mansfield, and airports in Harlingen and Brownsville. Rick mentions that while most fishing is within the bay system, there are opportunities to fish in the Gulf of Mexico for various species, though the rough and windy conditions often limit these outings. 9:55 - We talk about the best times to target redfish in his area. Rick mentions that fall, especially September to October, is an excellent time to fish due to consistent weather. Although August can be very hot and humid, it still offers good fishing. Overall, he advises avoiding winter if traveling from afar to ensure a better fishing experience. 14:13 - We ask him about the stingray tailing. Rick explains that they act like vacuum cleaners on the flats, picking up crabs and shrimp from the bottom. Fish like trout and redfish follow behind stingrays to catch the leftovers the stingrays miss. This behavior makes the fish so focused that they don't notice nearby boats. 17:59 - To find a fish, Rick emphasizes that the first and most crucial factor is the water level, which can change daily due to wind. He explains that he assesses various spots based on whether the water levels are suitable for his boat to float. He also considers wind direction and looks for sheltered shorelines where the water might be clearer. Rick contrasts this with trout fishing, noting that unlike trout, which behave predictably, redfish can be much more challenging. The conditions and fish locations can change so rapidly that even after having a fishing spot "wired" for a week or two, a short break can make it feel like starting over. 20:34 - We dig into his involvement in casting competitions. Rick mentions he participated in these competitions for about 12 years, drawn by the excitement and substantial prize money which attracted participants globally. One these events was by the International Sportsmen's Expo (ISE). 24:01 - Rick recounts his success in various casting events, describing the process where top casters get to choose their fishing spots. He shares that his interest in casting began because he found it enjoyable and started working at a fly shop where he taught casting and fly tying classes. He was introduced to casting tournaments by a Sage representative, which led him to participate and eventually excel in these competitions through extensive practice. 29:45 - We ask him for some casting techniques, particularly in challenging conditions like windy environments or saltwater fishing. Rick emphasizes the importance of practicing with targets, suggesting anglers use a single target to practice hitting from various distances and directions. He stresses the significance of making effective second casts if the first cast is off-target, rather than wasting time stripping the line back in and starting over. 35:17 - Rick emphasizes that the casting stroke should not change in the wind; instead, the elevation of the forward cast should be adjusted. He advises aiming the forward cast lower to the water to prevent the wind from pushing the fly back. He warns against using too much force, which can create larger loops and reduce aerodynamics, suggesting a more controlled and precise technique for better results. 43:26 - He describes his process for preparing and helping his guests catch fish on his boat. He usually stops the boat 200-300 yards from the fishing spot to approach quietly. He observes the water to identify patterns and waits for the right time to fish. Rick provides tips for his guests, such as stripping off line and false casting to prepare. Depending on the wind conditions, he maneuvers the boat to give his guests the best possible shot at casting. 45:59 - Rick explains that "nervous water" looks different f

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/658 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Skwala, Yellowstone Teton Territory Denis Peirce, radio show host and trolling flies guru, is here to take us into the history of the great Jay Fair, how all this came to be, and his connection to Jay. Today, you'll learn how to troll flies with your current gear, the secret to manipulating your fly, and even hear the story behind the wiggle fin that started with a WD-40 can! Grab your favorite drink and get ready for a laid-back way to catch some big fish! Show Notes with Denis Peirce on Trolling Flies. 03:50 - Denis grew up fishing in Southern California with his grandfather. Over the years, he built a successful business selling flies to resorts and fly shops. He focused on places where people actually fished, like the Sierras and up the West Coast. 06:31 - Denis talks about Jay Fair's unique trolling system. Jay used a sink tip line to keep his fly just below the surface, trolling near shallow areas where trout would feed. 07:46 - Denis started working with Jay Fair in the late '90s. Jay met Denis at the International Sportsman's Expo and asked him to produce the flies on a larger scale. Jay provided the kits with all the materials, and Denis handled the production and shipping. Getting Started with Trolling Flies 12:58 - Denis talks about how to start trolling with flies, even if you're new to it. He says your current rods, reels, and lines will do. If you have a spool of 2X tippet, you can make a longer leader, and you're set. A sinking or sink tip line works better, but even a standard floater can work. 14:49 - We discuss why trolling flies might get negative reactions and why it's a great technique. He says trolling is great because it's less physically demanding than casting all day. Plus, trolling helps cover a lot of water, which is key when fish are scattered. Check out our Episode with Denny Rickards. Best Conditions for Trolling Flies 17:50 - Early mornings and low light are prime trolling times because fish are likelier to be in shallow areas. Fish will drop deeper as the sun rises and the water gets clearer. Denis stresses that fishing is like solving a puzzle; you must adjust your technique based on daily conditions. 20:55 - Denis recommends letting your boat glide to a stop to let your gear sink, then speeding up again to move the gear through different depths. Changing direction also helps provoke strikes, as fish react to movement. 22:17 - Trolling flies are designed to attract trout, which are visual feeders. They feature long tails and wings to create movement in the water. The action disc can make the fly swim even more attractively. 25:59 - The WiggleFin Action Disc is a small plastic disc that adds movement to your fly and makes it more attractive to fish. Dean Teegarden was inspired by a creative fisherman using sequins and a leech pattern. Dean took that idea and made the disc using a contact lens holder and a tube from a WD-40 can. 29:06 - Jay Fair used a floating fly line and manipulated it by adding a mend—basically flicking the rod to make the fly pulse and change speed. This technique makes the fly move more naturally. Fishing Show with Dennis Peirce 33:13 - Denis shares about his weekly radio show that's been on air since the early '90s. It runs every Friday night from 6 to 7 PM. The radio show started as a way for Denis to connect with his fly fishing customers and learn more about their local fishing spots. 40:42 - When trolling, any streamer fly will work, but deceivers are especially cool if you let them soak for 10 minutes. You can use tube flies and stack them to make long flies. 47:53 - Denis says to focus on structure in the water to find big fish. Finding structure is key, so invest in a basic fish finder to locate it. For trolling, you can use lead core lines or modern shooting heads with sinking rates. Thin braid backing helps you go deeper, and you can add a flasher to your setup for better attraction. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/658

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/657 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Have you ever thought about that urban stream that's flowing right near your home right now? As water runs off the street and into the creek, what happens next? Who's looking after the creek? And who's protecting those fish species that are inhabiting those areas? Today you're gonna get an inside view of a watershed council that is protecting their basin on a large scale. And we're gonna talk about how this all ties into the smallmouth bass trip and giveaway we're doing right now. So you know a little bit more about how to protect your own streams and how to get involved in this big trip. Belinda Friis and Rick Lawson from the Huron River Watershed Council are here to shed light on the work they're doing to protect one of the biggest and most important rivers in the Michigan area of the Great Lakes. You're gonna find out today what forever chemicals are and what they are doing to help protect these chemicals from getting into our streams. You're gonna find out what the Stonefly search is all about and how this is helping to prepare some of the work they're doing out in their area. And you're also gonna get a little bit of hope, actually a lot of hope into looking at the future. We've talked a lot about this on the podcast. There's definitely some ups and downs in species populations, but today we're gonna be talking about a few in this area and you're gonna get some good direction moving forward. Plus, did I mention it? We're gonna be giving away a trip to Schultz Outfitters, and if you wanna get involved in this trip, you can do it. We'll talk about that at the end. Definitely pumped to get into the Detroit area, putting Detroit on the map, the Huron River. This is gonna be awesome. So let's give back to another great organization. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/657

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/656 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, TroutRoutes, Visit Helena, MT, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, Mike Schultz from Schultz Outfitters shares his invaluable insights to help make your next smallmouth bass fishing trip a roaring success. From headhunting strategies and the importance of the right angle, to understanding how temperature influences your fishing methods throughout the year, this episode covers it all. Plus, we delve into some unique tips, like how chasing softshell turtles can improve your bass fishing game. So, let's get into it and uncover why smallmouth bass fishing is a favorite among some of the best anglers in the country. Episode Chapters with Mike Schultz on Smallmouth Bass Fishing 3:14 - We discuss the unique aspects of smallmouth bass fishing in Michigan. Mike highlights that the local rivers, being smaller and more intimate, offer a special experience compared to larger watersheds. Mike mentions that their standard fishing trips involve using Clackacraft skiffs, which are perfectly suited for their rivers. The guides have flexibility in scheduling trips, adjusting based on the time of year and water conditions. 6:29 - We get into the fishing conditions and expectations for our upcoming trip in July 2025. Mike mentions that July is typically great for topwater fishing, using poppers and terrestrial baits similar to trout fishing gear. There are also insect hatches, such as mayflies, that can start in early June and last into September, providing various fishing opportunities. 10:14 - We discuss plans for a fishing trip in Michigan, focusing on the unique aspects of fishing in the Great Lakes region. Mike describes their different fishing programs available in mid-July, including opportunities to catch numerous smallmouth bass or targeting larger fish in smaller rivers. He emphasizes that by mid-summer, large fish often remain in fixed areas, allowing for more strategic fishing. 14:08 - According to Mike, the state record in Michigan for smallmouth bass is over nine pounds, but such large fish are typically found in lakes and not in the rivers where they fish. Their focus is more on the length of the fish, with a 20-inch smallmouth being considered mature and noteworthy. He mentions that their crew catches around 25 to 30 smallmouth bass each year that are 20 inches or larger. 16:06 - For a successful smallmouth bass fishing from a drift boat, Mike emphasizes the importance of keeping the fly out front of the boat rather than off to the side. This approach helps keep the angler undetected and ensures a more effective hook set when the fish inhales the fly. He further explains that this method not only improves your chances but also provides a better experience for all on the boat. 21:13 - We talk about the evolution of drift boats in their region. Mike reminisces about the old aluminum drift boats, especially the big 16-foot models. He explains that initially, large aluminum boats were common, but over time, companies like Hyde and Stealth Craft began producing lighter, narrower boats that are more suitable for the local rivers. These boats are easier to maneuver and can be equipped with small motors, which helps them cover long stretches of river without exhausting themselves. 24:45 - Mike attributes the Schultz Outfitters' success to longevity in the field, treating people well, fulfilling promises, and compensating team members fairly. He mentions key figures like Jeff Liskay and Greg Senyo, highlighting their expertise and humility despite not being very active on social media. He also notes the special environment they've created at Schultz Outfitters, which some customers deeply appreciate. 28:25 - Mike runs through the normal year at their shop. They do a lot of fly tying focused events from January to February. He also mentions one of their big annual events which is called Bobbin the Hood. 34:55 - We ask Mike about his preferred water conditions, to which he responds that he enjoys a sudden increase in water flow. Mike shares a recent vacation experience where the river's flow increased from 1000 to 1600 cubic feet per second (CFS), resulting in excellent fishing conditions. He notes that earlier in the week, finesse techniques worked best, but the increase in flow changed the fishing dynamics. 35:54 - Mike elaborates on the concept of finesse fishing, which can range from using small foam flies like damsels and dragonflies to larger poppers, emphasizing patience and precision. 38:42 - He also describes a unique technique that involves sight fishing around softshell turtles, similar to saltwater fishing. These turtles dislodge food while feeding, attracting fish, and the key is not to spook the turtle to capitalize on the opportunity. 47:12 - Mike tells us that bass are always predators and that their diet is influenced by their surroundings. For example, in one area with abundant caddis, eve

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/655 Presented By: TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors If you listen to today's episode, you will have a much better chance to hook more and larger fish on your next Stillwater trip. That's because I'm going to provide a Phil Rowley summary of his top tips for inducing a strike, and I'll have a little story to share at the end that's going to reinforce this message. In today's short snippet bonus episode, we're going to hear Phil Rowley's 8 tips on inducing a fish take. This podcast today comes from episode 640, where Phil was on his Littoral Zone podcast and he shared these exact tips and more. If you want to hear the full-length episode, check out 640. This is going to be a short snippet episode just so you have a punch just in case you missed that one or you want something a little bit shorter. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/655

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/654 Presented By: Visit Helena, MT, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Waters West You may have heard of today's guest from the books and content he's written about spey and steelhead fishing. But did you know that he also has an amazing book on another hard-to-master species? Today, we'll walk through the biggest tips from this book so that you might have a better shot at a giant musky this season. Rick Kustich, author of Hunting Musky with a Fly, is here to share his top tips on landing that elusive musky. You'll learn how to tease a strike, where most fish occur, and the three key tips to keep the big one on the line. Ready to profile a predator musky style? Show Notes with Rick Kustich on Hunting Musky with a Fly 01:31 - It's been over a year since we had Rick on the podcast, where we talked about spey fishing and steelhead. Rick had a pretty good year with lots of good steelhead and musky fishing. But he did shake things up with a trip to Patagonia in South America to target sea-run brown trout. Hunting Musky with a Fly 04:35 - Today, we will discuss Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly. It's a great resource for anyone interested in musky fishing. You can contact Rick through his website or Instagram for a signed, personalized copy of the book. The book can also be found at various fly shops, bookstores, and, of course, on Amazon. 07:06 - Rick pitched the idea of the book around 2013, but it was turned down because musky fly fishing wasn't popular yet. By 2017, with more people getting into musky fishing, Rick's book Hunting Musky with a Fly was finally released. Why Muskies Are So Hard to Catch 09:06 - Muskies are one of the hardest freshwater fish to catch consistently. They don't need to feed often and have specific feeding windows during the day. 12:19 - Rick explains that understanding Muskies as apex predators is key. They're picky eaters, so anglers need to trigger them into striking. He suggests using the figure-eight technique, even when you don't see a fish following your fly. 18:05 - Rick also mentions that while figure eight is his go-to, you must also read the fish's behavior. For example, a slow, teasing retrieve can be as effective if the fish seems interested but isn't taking the bait immediately. Water clarity plays a big role too. 22:12—New York offers a diverse muskie fishery with different strains, including the Great Lakes strain found in the Niagara River. Muskies are native to this area and have various strains in various locations. While their original range was in the Northeast and Midwest, they've been stocked in many other places, including Nebraska and the western states. Tiger muskies, a hybrid between pike and musky, are also found out west. Keeping Your Head in the Game 25:57 - Stay focused during those long days when you might not catch any fish. It can be tough, especially if you're new and questioning everything. But experience teaches you that each cast brings you closer to a catch. Stay engaged, and keep your energy up. Even when it's slow, every cast counts, and being ready could lead to the catch of a lifetime. How to Find the Best Spots for Muskies 28:45 - Muskies usually stick close to food sources, so look for areas with plenty of bait. In big waters like the Niagara River, focus on edges and structures like weed beds and drop-offs. Look for log jams, overhanging brush, and slower water spots for smaller rivers. Muskies often hang out in these areas to save energy and ambush prey. Casting for Muskies 41:52 - For big, open water, like deep rivers, you must make long casts to keep your fly down longer. Rick uses a two-handed rod, around 9.5 feet long, with a heavy line for distance and depth. Use the bottom hand to pull and the top hand to guide for speed. After retrieving the fly, sweep the rod to get some line out, then use one or two false casts to get it back in the water. A shorter rod and quick casts help reduce wear on your body and improve efficiency. 51:00 - Rick explains that most fish hit within the first few strips of the fly. For casting, Rick uses a heavy, short-headed line, about 22 to 23 feet long, which helps get the fly deep quickly. 55:12 - Rick says using a back-and-forth retrieve with your fly and making it look vulnerable can trigger strikes. He stresses the importance of strip setting to get a good hook set because muskies have tough mouths. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/654

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/653 Presented By: Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Visit Helena, MT Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, Ronan Creane, a renowned fly fishing guide with deep ties to Ireland, is here to talk all about fly fishing New Zealand. Ronan specializes in sight fishing for brown trout and has been a passionate fly angler for decades, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather. If you've ever dreamt of casting your line in the pristine waters of New Zealand, this episode is a must-listen. Ronan takes us on an in-depth journey through the best fishing spots, the ideal times to visit, and expert tips on sight fishing for those elusive big browns. You'll also learn why a trip to New Zealand might be more attainable than you think, and how to make the most of your adventure without suffering from jet lag. Episode Chapters with Ronan Creane on Fly Fishing New Zealand 2:04 - Ronan shares his background, explaining he grew up in Ireland and moved to New Zealand at age 24. His earliest fishing memories involve catching tiny trout in a stream near his house using a jam jar and a net. Fly fishing runs in his family, with his father and grandfather being skilled fly fishermen. Although introduced to it gradually, he received his first fly rod at age 12 from his grandfather. 8:21 - He worked as a guide on two iconic salmon and sea trout fisheries in Ireland, starting at age 18. He continued guiding during visits home while exploring fly fishing globally. He highlights the decline of sea trout fishing in Ireland, which began in the late 1980s to early 1990s, coinciding with the rise of salmon farming. 12:28 - We start to dig into fly fishing in New Zealand, specifically in the small town of Alexandra on the South Island. Ronan describes his work as a guide, focusing mainly on brown trout, although rainbow trout are also present in the rivers and lakes he fishes. He emphasizes that his fishing is mostly river-based, but he also enjoys lake fishing due to his background. The average fish he targets weighs around three to four pounds. He aims for larger fish, typically five to six pounds, and mentions that he and his clients have caught around 20 double-figure fish. 15:11 - We talk about some sight fishing techniques, particularly in rivers. Ronan explains that the ideal scenario is finding a fish "on station," meaning it's feeding in one spot, which gives the angler time to plan their approach. He contrasts this with a fish that is cruising, which requires a different, more dynamic strategy. The key to success in New Zealand, according to Ronan, is making the first cast accurately. Multiple attempts can alert the fish, making it harder to catch. 18:30 - Ronan explains his preference for using a dry fly as an indicator since fish can take a dry fly at any time of the year. However, he notes that if a fish is swinging, it's more likely to take a nymph. He also describes the importance of watching the dry fly for any movement indicating a strike, but he also stresses the value of directly observing the fish's mouth if visible to catch subtle takes that the dry fly might not indicate. 20:39 - We talk about the fishing opportunities in New Zealand, particularly in the South Island. Ronan elaborates on various regions such as Mackenzie District (known for lakes and rivers), the West Coast (wild and remote), Southland (with numerous rivers), and Otago (where Ronan is based, offering a variety of fishing experiences). He mentions the availability of brown trout and sea trout, noting that sea trout, which migrate to the ocean and return, can grow significantly larger, sometimes up to 15 pounds. 23:00 - Ronan has been part of Sexyloops since around 2003, not long after its establishment in 1998. Their collaboration began when Ronan met Paul during the filming of an early fishing movie, leading to friendship and numerous fishing trips together, especially to New Zealand. 24:40 - I ask about the allure of New Zealand as a fishing destination. He highlights the country's exceptional freedom for anglers, where a single license allows fishing in various public waters. He emphasized the "queen chain" concept, which grants public access to 22 yards of either bank of a river, provided the access point is public. 28:04 - As a member of the New Zealand Professional Fishing Guides Association (NZPFGA), Ronan mentions that there are about 140 guides spread across both islands of New Zealand, which he believes is sufficient to meet the demand. 29:07 - Our conversation shifts to his blog, which he has been writing for about 15 years as part of Sexyloops. The blog includes approximately 350 entries, focusing on his observations of fishing rather than instructional content. 30:21 - We talk about Ronan's involvement in a TV series called "Pure Fly NZ", produced by Nick Reygaert. Ronan and his friend Jeff Forsee participated in one episode, showcasing unique fly fi

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/652 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets What if I told you there's a place where you can fish the same waters as Lee Wulff and have a great chance at catching an Atlantic salmon on the fly? Today, we will dive into the rich history and present-day fly fishing Newfoundland with the head guides from Mountain Waters Resort, Ryan & Les Wentzell and Rod Brophy. You'll discover the secrets of fishing the riffle hitch, why you should stay put in the pools instead of stepping down, and even why 4-lb tippet is the go-to at certain times of the year. Plus, learn how to hook a giant Atlantic salmon like Lee Wulff did. Show Notes with Ryan, Les, and Rod on Fly Fishing Newfoundland. 02:35 - Ryan grew up at the lodge, which his parents, Les and Paulette Wentzell, and two other couples purchased. The 170-acre property was originally owned by Lee Wulff. 05:23 - The lodge is in Daniels Arbor, Newfoundland, a small town with a rich fishing history. After nearly 30 years of operation, Ryan took over the lodge in 2019 and has been upgrading it ever since. The Riffling Hitch 10:05 - Rod uses surface fishing with dry flies, like bombers, all year long. The riffling hitch creates a wake on the water, which makes it easier to spot the fish. This method is better than just using a regular wet fly. Rod mentioned that even big fish, up to 40 pounds, have been caught using this technique, and it's essential for consistent success. 20:17 - Les shares that Lee Wulff flew his float plane from New York to Newfoundland in the 1940s. He explored the rivers and set up fishing operations, including at Portland Creek. When a road was built nearby in 1956, Lee moved on to other projects. 28:11 - Rod shared how you can still fish in the spots where Lee Wulff used to catch fish. Many spots are still popular today. The area also offers amazing trout fishing, especially in nearby lakes. Fly Fishing Newfoundland 30:02 - Ryan explained how people get to their fishing location. Most folks fly into Deer Lake Regional Airport, about two hours from the fishing area. Once they arrive, Ryan's team picks them up, and they can start fishing immediately. Some people drive all the way, but that takes longer with a 10-hour ferry ride from Nova Scotia. 32:52 - Most guests focus on Atlantic salmon, but there's also great brook trout fishing in the area. They can also visit spots like the River of Ponds and see salmon at Hawke's Bay. Plus, if you're interested in cod fishing, that's an option too. 35:04 - Rod says that catching Atlantic salmon is very likely, even for new anglers. He suggests using a 9 ft 9 wt rod and casting at a 45-degree angle across the river. The key is to adjust to the conditions and pay attention to the guide's tips for a successful catch. 40:46 - Rod advises staying in one spot for at least an hour when fishing for Atlantic salmon. He explained that fish often settle in large pools, and you might be fishing over 25 to 30 fish in one spot. Ryan shares a cool story about Henry Green, who fished at their place from 1957 to 2022. Henry was a big part of their history; loved salmon fishing and bird watching. Check out this video of Henry Green. 1:00:13 - Ryan highlights all the cool stuff to do in Newfoundland besides fishing. Gros Morne National Park is close by with boat tours and hiking. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/652

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/651 Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today's guest wrote the book referred to as the bible for steelhead fishing. He was the guy who created and perfected the Snap T cast, and he's one of the most respected anglers in the steelhead game. And today he's gonna break down the history and some of the best tips for steelhead and spey so you have a better shot at hooking these magical steelhead while on the river this season. Deck Hogan, Author of the book A Passion For Steelhead, guide, and expert spey casting instructor is here to take us back into history books of how Northwest Spey began and how steelhead fishing with the spey rod took off. We're gonna talk about how to slow down your fly for more success. Today, you understand where the fish are holding and how to present the fly to these fish. And you're gonna find out what happens if you get a pluck a touch, and you're gonna understand what the fish are actually doing under the water. You're always out there and you sometimes feel a little bit of feedback, but what is that fish actually doing? And how do you get that fish to come back to your fly? It's all on today. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/651

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/650 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop, Togiak River Lodge Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we'll chat with Nick Yardley, the president of Fulling Mill. We dive deep into the fascinating story of how Fulling Mill became a leader in the UK and US markets, sharing insights on their top fly patterns and the meticulous process that ensures only the best end up in your fly box. We also explore stillwater fishing, with Nick offering expert tips and his favorite flies for targeting brook trout in the Northeast. Additionally, you'll hear about his passion for the Great Lakes and why this region holds a special place in his heart for salmon and steelhead fishing. Join us as we uncover these topics and more, giving you the knowledge to enhance your fly fishing adventures this season. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation with Nick Yardley from Fulling Mill! Episode Chapters with Nick Yardley on Fulling Mill 1:38 - Nick shares his personal journey into fly fishing, starting from a young age with course fishing in Yorkshire, England. His interest shifted to fly fishing during a family visit to Dorset, where a gamekeeper introduced him to the sport. This experience led him to sell his match fishing gear and buy his first fly rod, albeit an unsuitable one. However, he later received a more appropriate and cherished split cane fly rod from a relative, which solidified his passion for fly fishing. 4:34 - We talk about his move from Britain to the United States in 1986. Nick explains that he didn't find the job market in Britain appealing due to high unemployment and general discontent at the time. Seeking adventure, he pursued a path in the US, leveraging his background in climbing. 8:22 - We explore the history of Fulling Mill. Its origins date back to the 1930s when Denis Whetham, a British schoolboy, took up fly tying after a rugby accident left him paralyzed. Upon returning to his family home in Kenya, he garnered local interest and even received commercial orders, leading him to pursue fly tying passionately. Fulling Mill's flies are now widely available across US fly shops, and in 2023, they introduced a new range of fly tying materials, further solidifying their market presence. 18:00 - Nick mentions that Fulling Mill aims to be a one-stop shop for fly fishing, catering to various needs across different regions, although trout fishing constitutes 80% of their business. He also highlights their innovative approach with Euro nymphing flies, offering different weights for the same fly size and enhancing the consumer experience. Furthermore, Fulling Mill is planning to introduce a new range of flies for warm water and specific regions by 2025, including patterns for strikers in the northeast and shrimp patterns for the Caribbean and Belize. 22:31 - Nick discusses the process of understanding market needs and providing appropriate products for fly fishing. He says that the strong feedback comes from retail stores and their servicing reps, as different territories have unique demands. He mentions Devin Olsen, a well-known figure in fly fishing who is both a signature fly tier and a shop owner, highlighting how his flies have broad national appeal. 24:18 - We dig into brook trout fishing, focusing on effective flies and ideal locations. Nick recommends using size 14, highly floatable dry flies with foam bodies, mentioning specific types like little chernobyls, ants, and beetles. He explains that when fishing for brook trout in the White Mountains of New Hampshire during the hot summer months, small black beetles work well due to the cold streams. 31:09 - Nick describes their operation in Kenya as well-established, employing about 215 people who are provided with healthcare and a retirement program, making it a desirable place to work. Most employees are around 40 years old and have been with the company for 15-20 years, showcasing their experience. 33:07 - Nick shares his experiences fishing in the Gaspe region, noting the high quality of public waters and the strong salmon stocks. He also mentions the ease of planning a fishing trip in Quebec using resources like the website saumongaspe.com. 40:00 - He finds the Great Lakes steelhead fishing to be remarkable, especially on the Salmon River. Nick says that in salmon fishing, traditionally, single-handed rods with streamers were used, but now many anglers are using two-handed rods for swinging. This method is becoming popular on the Salmon River, where it is effective for covering extensive water quickly and efficiently with big rods and classic West Coast salmon flies. 42:14 - For Atlantic salmon in rivers like the Dartmouth, York, and Saint John, Nick typically uses a 12.5ft 7wt rod, which suits most conditions. However, in narrower sections of the York River, he switches to an 11ft switch rod or a 10ft 7wt single-handed rod. For fishing in the Great Lakes, he often u

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/649 Presented By: Stonefly Nets, Visit Helena, MT, Waters West, Togiak River Lodge Today's episode is special because we've got Bill Gammell, the creator of the Five Essentials of Fly Casting, a framework many experts swear by. Find out how dropping your right foot can improve your timing, discover the most important variable in fly casting, and get the top drill to boost your casting skills. Let's get you back on track with better line speed and loop control! Show Notes with Bill Gammel on The Five Essentials of Fly Casting. 02:08 - Bill started fly fishing at just six or seven years old, catching Bluegill with his older brother and father. His passion for fly fishing continued until college, and he recalls a time he had to switch to conventional tackle for his master's degree research. 04:40 - Bill still lives in Baytown, the same area where he grew up and where his dad greatly influenced his love for fishing. Though the area isn't ideal for fly fishing because of the murky water from the Trinity River, Bill and his family found ways to catch fish. The Five Essentials of Fly Casting 07:18 - Bill talks about how he and his dad learned fly casting together. His dad was a natural athlete with great hand-eye coordination. They used a home video camera to record expert casters like Lefty Kreh and Mel Krieger. Over time, they noticed common patterns and eventually put together what we now know as the "Five Essentials of Fly Casting." Bill said they didn't invent anything new but identified key principles that all great fly casters share. 11:02 - Bill started teaching fly casting lessons as a teenager, but it wasn't until they were asked to write a booklet for the Federation of Fly Fishers that they fully laid out the essentials. They spent two years carefully analyzing videos and got input from top tournament casters. Their work was published in the late '80s and became the foundation for the FFF's instructor program. Check out the The Five Essentials of Fly Casting. Tips for Increasing Casting Distance 20:03 - One of the most important lessons he learned was to focus on trajectory and to keep your cast more level, not too high. He also emphasizes that line speed and loop control are the foundations of distance casting. Bill said if you master those two, you'll be able to cast a full fly line without much trouble. If you want to improve your casting, Bill recommends checking out Paul Arden's Sexyloops website. It's a solid resource with articles, videos, and step-by-step methods to help you learn to cast better. Listen to the Episode 638 with Paul Arden Here. 25:48 - Bill breaks down the Five Essentials of fly casting and explains how they work together. He said he now teaches them in a new order to make more sense. The most important essential is the straight line path of the rod tip, which helps create a clean cast. 31:00 - The arc changes based on how much the rod bends, which can be affected by the length of the line and the amount of power used. A narrow arc is for short casts, and a wider arc is needed for longer casts. Check out this article by Bill Gammel on Making adjustments on the fly. 35:04 - Timing and power application are important in fly casting. Bill explains that to get the best cast, your timing needs to be spot on—starting your forward cast just as the line straightens out behind you. 37:32 - He also shares his secret to power: a smooth acceleration to a stop. This means starting slow, adding power in the middle, and then stopping quickly. The stop is key because it lets the rod transfer energy to the line. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/649

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/648 https://inthebucketpodcast.com/ In this episode of In the Bucket, join Brian Niska as he sits down with fly fishing legends Steve Morrow and Justin Miller. These two heavyweights dive deep into their decades-long experiences, sharing great stories from the wild rivers of the Pacific Northwest to the far reaches of Kamchatka. They talk about the art of guiding, the thrill of the catch, and the camaraderie among anglers. Whether you're an avid angler or just love a good story, you're in for a treat today. Okay, let's get in the bucket! Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/648

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/647 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togens Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, Bruce Richards, Scientific Anglers' guru and a master of fly casting, shares his six-step method to perfect your fly cast. Whether you struggle with tailing loops, presentation in windy conditions, or fishing with dry flies, his expertise offers simple and effective solutions. We also dive into the fascinating history of Scientific Anglers, one of the premier fly line companies. Bruce explains how fly lines have evolved over time, becoming heavier and more specialized. You'll learn which rod is best for beginners and the key actions to look for in a fly rod. But that's not all—he reveals the number one cause of poor fly casts and provides tips on analyzing your cast for continuous improvement. Tune in for an episode packed with practical advice and expert wisdom from Bruce Richards, a true icon in the fly fishing community. Episode Chapters with Bruce Richards on the Six-Step Method to Perfect Your Cast 2:24 - Bruce reminisces about his upbringing in Midland, Michigan, where he was indirectly introduced to fly fishing through his father's best friend, a sales manager at Scientific Anglers. Although Bruce was eager to join fishing trips as a young boy, he was only allowed to participate when he was older. His early exposure to fly fishing laid the foundation for his future career. 3:24 - His professional journey began in a rather unplanned manner. Despite attempts to secure summer jobs at Scientific Anglers, the seasonal nature of the business meant there were no vacancies. After earning a degree in fisheries, Bruce received an unexpected call from a friend at Scientific Anglers, inviting him to apply for a job. He succeeded in securing a position in 1976, marking the start of a long and varied career within the company. 5:30 - He reflects on the significant changes in the fly fishing industry over the years, particularly focusing on the technological advancements since he started in 1976. 9:33 - We discuss the evolution of fly lines and rods over the years. Bruce confirms that lines have become heavier and explains the history behind this trend. He also explains that as these heavier lines became popular, rod designers began developing stiffer rods to match them. This created a cycle where heavier lines required stiffer rods, which in turn required even heavier lines. 13:29 - We dig into the combination of fly rods and lines, emphasizing the flexibility in pairing them. Bruce points out that the action of a rod can be modified by changing the weight of the line used. He suggests that the most logical approach is to select the line first based on the type of fly, the fishing distance, and the environmental conditions, and then choose a rod that can effectively cast that line. 16:45 - He shares a bit of the history of Scientific Anglers. 19:52 - Bruce recounts an experience with a Canadian casting student, which led him to develop his six-step method for improving fly casting. Initially, Bruce faced challenges instructing the student remotely but found that examining the top leg of the loop in the cast revealed critical insights. The method involves assessing the loop's top leg for straightness, understanding the rod tip's path, analyzing the caster's actions, and making necessary adjustments. 29:48 - Bruce advises those who have never cast before. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the mechanics, like how loops work, which allows for self-analysis. He mentions that after a lesson, beginners usually show significant improvement. However, he notes that this improvement can be fleeting, similar to learning in other activities like golf. The key to sustained improvement lies in practice and remembering specific feedback, such as not bending the wrist too much. 31:31 - I ask Bruce whether a rigid wrist is necessary for casting, and he explains that the wrist plays a crucial role in controlling the rod's casting arc. The combination of shoulder, elbow, and wrist movements is essential for an efficient cast, as using only the elbow can be tiring. He also elaborates on how the flexibility of the rod affects wrist movement. A softer rod requires more wrist action, while a stiffer rod requires less. He also mentions that the weight of the line can change the dynamics; for example, using a heavier line on a stiff rod alters wrist usage. 33:13 - Bruce advises against using heavier rods than necessary unless the casting conditions demand it, such as in saltwater fishing where heavier lines are needed to cast heavy flies despite the fish not requiring such heavy equipment. The wind is another significant factor that complicates casting, making the right choice of rod and line even more critical. 35:16 - We go into step four of his six-step method which is about changing the body movements. Bruce describes a scenario where a wide, sloppy

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/646 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop In this episode, we explore the journey of Brad Babich, who went from flipping auto parts to owning Togens Fly Shop almost overnight. We learn how he made the leap from corporate life to fly fishing and what sets Togens apart for its customers. Brad also takes us through the history of the shop, including his weekend trip from British Columbia to Colorado with thousands of products in tow and how he assist guests of the best fly tying materials even from a distance. Episode Chapters with Brad Babich on Togens Fly Shop 1:26 - 2:04 Brad shares how he got into fly fishing. He started young, fishing with his dad using an antique fly rod. He describes his early experiences in Wisconsin and later, in Colorado, where he developed a deeper passion for fly fishing. 4:46 - 6:57 He then explains how he and his business partner came to own Togens Fly Shop. Initially, Brad was working in sales and marketing, but his partner found Togens for sale. After some quick decisions, they acquired the business and moved it from Canada to Colorado. 7:05 - 9:34Brad discusses what sets Togens apart, focusing on their wide range of fly tying materials and their fly pattern-specific kits. 10:28 - 15:26 He emphasizes the importance of personal customer service. Unlike many e-commerce businesses, Togens maintains a phone line, allowing customers, especially older ones, to place orders directly. 20:00 - 26:57 Brad discusses the variety of fly tying materials at Togens, like precut anesthetic bags and numerous bead options. 28:58 - 29:15 He also talks about expanding their reach by incorporating diverse fly patterns tied by their East Coast representative, Aiden, to cater to different regional fishing needs. 33:45 - 41:32 Brad discusses the logistics of running an online shop, focusing on the challenges of shipping. He mentions how Togens Fly Shop works hard to ensure fast and reliable shipping, even though it can be tough at times. 41:32-45:00 Brad discusses the critical role that customer feedback to lead improvements in their product offerings and customer service. 47:18 - 49:38 He then emphasizes that being open to criticism and willing to make changes has been essential to their success. 50:12 - 55:17 Brad recounts the trips he had that have led to some of the best ideas for new products and services. He values the face-to-face interactions and the chance to hear firsthand what customers love about Togens Fly Shop. Conclusion with Brad Babich on Togens Fly Shop Brad and Dave talked about how Togens Fly Shop stays on top of the ever-changing world of outsourced customer service. As the new owner, Brad explained how he stepped up to tackle the shop's biggest challenge: keeping customers happy and engaged, even from a distance and how he hand picked the best fly tying materials for their satisfaction. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/646

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/645 Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, Waters West, Skwala, TroutRoutes Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, we're diving deep into the world of spey fishing and bow hunting with George Cook, the man who brought spey fishing and spey rods to the United States. Renowned for his expertise, George travels the globe, collaborating with some of the biggest brands in the fishing industry. Having graced our podcast three times, he has shared invaluable insights on spey fishing, Chinook fishing, stillwaters, and more. George will update us on the current state of spey fishing, discuss the latest trends in Chinook fishing, and share his optimism about the future of steelhead fishing. But that's not all—his passion extends beyond the water to the fields, where he is also an accomplished hunter. He'll be offering tips and tricks for archery and hunting this season, including how to successfully stock a buck and the three most important factors in casting a spey rod. Episode Chapters with George Cook on Bow Hunting 2:20 - George gives us an update since we had him on the podcast. He had a bow season in North America last fall and killed his all-time biggest meal in the winter. 6:20 - We talk about updates on Sage rods, particularly focusing on the latest models which were released last winter. George explains that the new series includes a variety of models ranging from five to ten weights in spey and seven to eight weights in switch rods, which he refers to as "baby spey." 12:52 - George advises on how to improve your spey game. He suggests that it depends on the person's location, particularly highlighting that there are many skilled instructors on the West Coast. He names notable instructors like Travis Johnson in Oregon, John Hazlett in Medford, and Charles St. Pierre in Tacoma, as well as De Hogan who offers traveling seminars. George emphasizes the importance of getting professional instruction, comparing it to other precision activities like golf and archery. 16:00 - We shift the conversation from spey fishing to hunting. George recounts his extensive experience in both fields. He started fly fishing at age 11 but only began hunting in college at Washington State University, which he describes as a prime location for pheasant hunting. His deer hunting career began slowly, with his first successful hunt occurring in his senior year. 19:28 - George describes a typical summer fishing, using the Deschutes River as an example. He explains that fishing usually starts early in the morning, from dawn until about 10:30 to 11:30 AM, when temperatures are cooler. During this time, anglers can use floating lines or intermediate leaders with traditional flies like the green butt skunk or streetwalker. 26:32 - He shares his transition from rifle hunting for 30 years to bow hunting in 2014. He explains that rifle hunting had become less challenging and more about the pursuit of larger game. Bow hunting, on the other hand, provided a fresh start and presented new challenges, such as needing to get much closer to the prey, which requires significant skill and patience. 32:37 - George highlights the accessibility and convenience of bow hunting, contrasting it with rifle hunting, which often requires more time and logistical planning. He appreciates the simplicity of stepping outside his home and being able to practice archery almost immediately. He also provides an overview of the different types of bows available for those new to the sport, such as traditional longbows, recurves, compound, and self bows. He mentions that most bow hunters in the U.S. use compound bows and endorses Bowtech, a company known for its high-quality bows. 36:50 - We delve into introducing children to hunting, particularly focusing on the appropriate type of bow for young kids. George explains that there are entry-level bows designed for very young children, similar to toy bows with rubber stopper arrows. He then mentions more advanced options from Bowtech, which has a wide range of adjustable pull weights from 30 to 60 pounds, making it suitable as kids grow and gain strength. 43:00 - George recounts successful hunts in various states, including Oregon, Montana, South Dakota, and Mexico. He emphasizes the versatility required for hunting different types of deer, such as whitetails and Coues deer, using methods like tree stands and ground blinds. 44:06 - He highlights the numerous hunting opportunities available throughout the year, with early and late seasons in states like Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama. 48:18 - We talk about the intricacies of archery elk hunting. George explains that September is the prime time for hunting elk because it coincides with the rutting season when elk are very vocal and can be located by their calls. This period offers archers a better opportunity to get close and take a quality shot. Although challenging, bow hunting for elk and de

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/644 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Skwala, Visit Helena, MT, FishHound Expeditions We've got Tom Bie, the editor of The Drake Magazine, back on the show. Tom's written about everything from the issues facing brown trout in the Grand Canyon to a wild story involving a dad and daughter busted by the FBI for selling synthetic weed. They even sued Tom for a quarter of a million dollars. Strap on the seatbelt, grab your beverage, and get comfortable. Let's get into this one with Tom Bie! Episode Chapters with Tom Bie on the Drake Magazine 02:26 - We get an update on Tom and The Drake Magazine since our last episode with him in October 2020. We also dive into the challenges facing journalism today. 07:52 - Tom praises Monte Burke for his storytelling skills and how he lets people share their stories. He also talks about Monte's latest work on Nick Lyons. 14:24 - Tom also highlights Jon Krakauer, known for his gripping books like Into the Wild. Krakauer's reporting on a Yosemite climber who committed serious crimes is a prime example of his courage and commitment to justice. 19:16 - We chat about the fish removal in the Grand Canyon. The issue revolves around removing brown trout to protect the native humpback chub. Tom highlights how this problem mirrors other areas, like Yellowstone. He explains that while protecting native species is important, it's tough when their removal affects popular sport fish that have been around for decades. There's also a bounty program where guides earn money for killing brown trout, which has led to the killing of over 6,000 fish. 35:49 - We discuss how changes in river flow and dam operations have impacted brown trout in the Grand Canyon. Starting around 2014, increased flow rates and historic high flows allowed more brown trout to migrate. 47:56 - We talk about ways to help with the fishing issues in the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. Tom suggests people contact the National Park Service to express that killing sport fish might not be the best solution. Inside the Drake Magazine 54:33 - Tom shares that he always includes at least one in-depth reported piece per issue of the Drake Magazine. While essays are popular with readers, he often gets way more essays than actual reporting stories. Tom also explains that good reporting involves more than just writing; it needs interviews and research. He advises aspiring writers to use quotes from real conversations to improve their stories. 1:02:00 - Tom shares a crazy story about a father and daughter from Texas who got into big trouble for selling synthetic weed. Tom even got sued for talking about it on a podcast! The family also bought the Deneki lodges in Alaska, which was part of the money laundering charges. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/644

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/643 Presented By: Visit Helena, MT, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge, Angler's Coffee We're fly fishing Argentina today with Gustavo Hiebaum of Set Fly Fishing. He's here to tell us all about fishing for golden dorado in the eighth-largest country in the world. We'll also explore Argentina's fly fishing, the culture, and the amazing outdoors. We're going to cover it all today! Episode Chapters with Gustavo Hiebaum on Fly Fishing Argentina 02:18 - Gustavo got into fly fishing when he was eight during vacations in Northern Patagonia. By the age of eleven, he was tying his own flies, and by fourteen, he already knew that he was going to run his life around fly fishing. Exploring Argentina 05:35 - Argentina is the eighth-largest country in the world and the second-largest in South America after Brazil. 7:48 - Argentina is famous for its trout fishing, with rainbows, browns, and brook trout thriving since their introduction in 1904. But the country is most known for the Golden Dorado. There's also the Perca, a bass family fish. 11:34 - Argentina's population is about 40 million, with 70% living in Buenos Aires and the nearby areas. The rest of the country is less populated and perfect for fishing. While fly fishing isn't as popular in Buenos Aires, you can still catch fish like dorado in local ponds. 13:55 - Gustavo runs lodges in two main regions: the northeast and northern Patagonia. These spots are remote, about 700 to 1000 miles from the city, requiring a flight from Buenos Aires. 23:16 - For first-timers visiting Argentina, Gustavo recommends the Spring Creek Lodge in northern Patagonia, which is easy to get to from Buenos Aires. The Thrill of Golden Dorado Fishing 26:32 - Gustavo describes the golden dorado as an addictive catch because of its fierce and wild nature. This freshwater fish has a crazy mix of speed and power, kind of like a barracuda and shark combined. They have sharp teeth and can eat prey twice their size in seconds. It's a thrilling experience that's similar to saltwater fishing. 29:13 - Gustavo talks about how they run three lodges in different environments, but the Ibera Wetlands is a standout spot for Golden Dorado. The Ibera Wetlands in Argentina is a massive, crystal-clear paradise for fishing and wildlife watching. It's like the Everglades but with clear freshwater. 37:29 - Gustavo talks about the huge Golden Dorado you can find in the upper Paraná River. These fish can grow up to 50 pounds, with some reaching nearly 70 pounds! The Paraná River is massive, similar in size to the Mississippi River, and it eventually flows into Buenos Aires. The river is full of life, with dorado feeding on fish like the savalo. 42:15 - Gustavo talks about the variety of fish you can catch on the Upper Parana, like the paku and piapita. 50:02 - Gustavo explains that their fishing trips are flexible and tailored to their preferences. They recommend starting at the Ysoro wetlands, which is like a nursery for smaller dorados, to get used to the fishing style. Then, you can head to the main Paraná for a shot at the bigger fish. 55:51 - The prime seasons for catching golden dorodo are September to November and mid-February to early May. Some visit in January and February to combine trout fishing in Patagonia with a dorado trip. Set Fly Fishing 59:44 - Gustavo describes the amazing lodges SET Fly Fishing provides for golden dorado fishing. Each lodge offers a unique experience with great food and easy access to fishing. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/643

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/642 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, Stonefly Nets, Drifthook Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today we'll have an exciting conversation with Nick Secrist on spring creek fishing! Nick shares practical strategies and techniques, including the dry dropper method and tips for identifying when fish are ready to eat. He also recommends some fly selection, rod preferences, and nymphing setups. Additionally, we explore the Mossy Creek Fly Shop, its services, and community initiatives. Nick's passion for fishing promises to make this episode an invaluable resource for anyone looking to enhance their fishing skills. Dive in and join us on this journey through the spring creeks of Virginia! Episode Chapters with Nick Secrist on Spring Creek Fishing 1:36 - Nick shares his background in fishing, noting that he comes from a "fishy" family. He recalls an early photo of his dad fishing with him shortly after he was born and describes his family's fishing adventures, particularly offshore fishing. 4:44 - Nick briefly talks about the current fishing state. They are experiencing a drought similar to the one from the previous year, which is affecting the water levels and temperatures. Despite these challenges, the fishing for smallmouth bass, particularly on the South Fork of the Shenandoah River, is exceptional. 7:14 - Nick explains that Mossy Creek is unique due to its significant spring influence, cold water, and consistent fishing conditions throughout the year. He also mentions similar streams like Beaver Creek and Spring Run, which also have spring influences but may not be as consistently fishable as Mossy Creek. 8:30 - The conversation then shifts to smallmouth bass fishing. Nick outlines the peak smallmouth fishing season, which starts in late April and runs through September, with June, July, and August being the most consistent months for good fishing conditions. 11:25 - We discuss tips for spring creek fishing, specifically focusing on the technical aspects and nuances of fishing in Mossy Creek. Nick emphasizes that fishing in such environments can be challenging due to the unique micro drifts and currents caused by weed beds. He advises anglers to pay close attention to small channels and the drift of their lines, as simply casting into the middle of the creek is often ineffective. 13:36 - Nick talks about the dry dropper technique, especially during the spring and summer months. He explains that even if fish are not actively rising, there's still a good chance they will come up to take the dry fly. The dry dropper lands more naturally on the water and provides an opportunity for fish to strike. This technique is preferred over indicators in certain conditions, offering subtlety and a higher chance of success. 14:47 - He talks about the unique experience of fishing in spring creeks, particularly emphasizing the clear waters that allow anglers to see the fish. He also explains that while there are days with abundant catches, many people go to spring creeks for the challenge and satisfaction of sight fishing and having meaningful encounters with individual fish. 18:38 - Nick discusses how to identify when a fish is ready to eat. He explains that observing the fish's behavior in the water is key. Fish that are stationary at the bottom with closed mouths are likely not feeding, whereas fish that are more active, darting around and opening their mouths, are more likely to be in a feeding pattern. He also shares tips on fishing techniques, particularly for Mossy Creek. He suggests that people often fish with streamers too slowly and nymphs too quickly. When streamer fishing, he advises making a few casts and then moving to find fish that are more willing to eat. Conversely, nymph fishing requires patience and precision due to the complexity of the creek's currents and depths. Persistence and varied techniques are necessary to catch fish with nymphs. 23:06 - He shares the patterns they use in fishing the Mossy Creek. He recommends using flies of different weights, sizes, and colors. 27:46 - Nick highlights the variety of streams available in their area, many of which are full of brook trout, thanks to the Blue Ridge and Allegheny mountain ranges. He also mentions the abundance of options within an hour's drive, including both naturally occurring and stocked streams. 30:09 - We delve into the Mossy Creek Fly Shop owned by twin brothers, Brian and Colby. Nick explains that the shop offers both smallmouth and trout fishing trips. Smallmouth fishing is conducted via floating trips on rafts, covering five to ten miles of river depending on the route. These rafts provide flexibility, especially in areas with big bedrock or without boat ramps. Trout fishing, on the other hand, is done through walk-and-wade trips, suitable for the specific river conditions they encounter. 32:53 - Smallmouth fishing generally offers higher catch rates than trout fishing, even

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/641 Presented By: Waters West, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Drifthook Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Beau Beasley, author of multiple fly fishing books, Director at the Virginia Fly Fishing and Wine Festival, and a super all-around guy, is here to enlighten us about River Access Laws. He's gonna be breaking it down today. You're gonna hear about what you should do if you get challenged by a landowner while fishing near a private property, who to contact if you have other big questions while you're out there, and how this applies directly to your state. Plus, you're gonna hear a bunch of great stories, and all of these stories are gonna help you clearly understand how to navigate these river access laws and what you can do to make sure you are ready to go for your next trip. River access laws vary from state to state. There are some states where you can fish and walk up to the high water mark in some states where you cannot step foot in the water on private property. You also may have heard the word navigability, but do you know what it means and why it's So important? And where do you go for help? If you have questions today, we have one of the most knowledgeable river access all-stars in the country. And today he's gonna break it all down. So the next time you are on the water, you know exactly where to stand and how to navigate private property. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/641

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/640 Presented By: Waters West, Visit Helena, MT, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory Phil Rowley is back with the ultimate guide to inducing a take in Stillwater! In today's episode, we're diving deep into the unique challenges and techniques of stillwater fishing. We'll cover rod and hand position, retrieve essentials, and how to use 'the hang' to keep your fly in the strike zone longer. Plus, discover top indicator retrieves, wind drifting techniques, and fan casting methods. Episode Chapters with Phil Rowley on Inducing a Take Phil Rowley and RIO have rolled out a new tippet ring connection line. Check out the Phil Rowley RIO Ambassador Series Fly Lines. Let's dive into today's subject—inducing a take. Here are some key points we'll cover with Phil today: Rod and Hand Position: How to hold your rod for the best results. Retrieve Essentials: Key techniques for retrieving your line. The Hang: A method to keep your fly in the strike zone longer. Indicator Retrieves: Popular methods for fishing with indicators. Wind Drifting and Strike Zone: Techniques to adjust your strategy with or without an indicator. Fan Casting and Loch Style: Methods to cover more water and specific loch style techniques. Check out Phil's episode with Devin Oslen for more on Loch-style technique. 07:00 - Presenting your fly in stillwaters can be tricky since there's little to no current to help you. Most fish feed near the bottom, where it's safe. The key is to move the fly in a way that attracts fish. Rod and Hand Position 08:40 - Getting your rod in the right position when fishing helps eliminate slack and ensures you have direct contact with your fly, so you don't miss any takes. Keep the rod tip low or even in the water for subsurface presentations. When fishing dry flies, hold the rod higher to create some slack and time your strike better. Always be ready to set the hook quickly because fish will spit out the fly fast if they realize it's not food. 11:38 - Use your forefinger to control the line tension when fighting a fish. Phil also recommends putting fish on the reel to avoid tangles and practice for big catches. Use side pressure to tire out the fish quickly, and keep the rod angle low to prevent the fish from jumping. Retrieve Essentials 17:26 - The "drop" is when your fly hits the water and starts sinking. Get your rod and hands in position to gather any slack. Sometimes fish grab the fly as it descends, so be ready! After the drop, start the retrieve using a countdown system to get the fly to the right depth, usually near the bottom. Begin with two quick strips to attract fish and eliminate slack. Your retrieve should mimic the natural movements of insects in the water. 21:00 - Phil Rowley breaks down the retrieve into four key elements: Length of the Pull: Determine how much fly line you gather with each hand motion. Speed: Adjust the pace at which you pull or gather the line. Retrieve Cadence: Vary your rhythm, such as using quick strips or slow pulls, to mimic natural movement. Pause: Pauses can trigger strikes from fish attracted to sudden stillness. Phil's Four Core Stillwater Retrieves 2:43 - Phil Rowley emphasizes key retrieves essential for stillwater fly fishing. Here's a breakdown of these techniques: Hand Twist (Figure Eight or Hand Weave): This retrieve involves twisting the line with your hand, creating erratic movements to mimic various aquatic insects. It's versatile in speed and can imitate baitfish to chironomids. Strip Retrieve: Simply pull the line with your thumb and forefinger to mimic swimming insects like water boatmen or leeches. It can be adjusted in speed but beware of going too fast. Pinch Strip: A variation of the strip retrieve using your fingers fused to control the line, ensuring a slower, more controlled retrieve ideal for cold days or when precision is needed. Roly Poly: A fast-paced retrieve where you tuck the rod under your arm and use both hands in a hand-over-hand motion. This retrieve is great for triggering aggressive reactions from fish. 30:00 - Phil also talks about the versatility of using indicators in stillwater fly fishing to control the depth and retrieve speed effectively. Pay attention to the subtle movements of the indicator that signal a fish taking the fly. Adjusting retrieves based on fish response and environmental conditions can significantly improve success rates. The Hang 36:00 - As you retrieve your fly and it starts to rise, pause to let it "hang" at the surface. This mimics prey trying to escape, triggering fish to strike. You can experiment with the speed and length of the pause to see what works best. How do you know it's a hang? 39:00 - Almost all line manufacturers nowadays have some sort of a hang marker system with their stillwater lines. Phil uses RIO lines that have a focused hang marker on the line set at 20 feet. Phil also shares tips on how to make your own hang markers if your line doesn't have one.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/639 Presented By: TroutRoutes Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/troutroutes Welcome to another exciting episode where we dive deep into the Troutroutes app innovations and partnerships. Today, we are thrilled to have Erik Johnsen with us, a passionate fly fisherman who has transformed his love for the sport into a groundbreaking role at Troutroutes. As we explore the app's acquisition by OnX and its impressive features—from color-coded trout stream maps to a river miles calculator tool—it's clear that Erik and his team are revolutionizing how anglers navigate and enjoy their fishing experiences. Join us as we delve into Erik's insights, including his favorite fishing spots in Wisconsin and the hidden gems of the Driftless Area. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a curious beginner, this episode promises to inspire and inform, bringing the world of fly fishing to your fingertips. Episode Chapters with Erik Johnsen on Troutroutes App Feature Updates and Partnerships 1:51 - Erik shares his background on fly fishing, explaining that he is from the Upper Midwest and became interested in fly fishing while visiting the Driftless region with his wife. He learned to fly fish on his own about 15 years ago, driven by a desire to connect with his father-in-law, who was an avid fly fisherman. After many attempts, Erik finally succeeded in getting his father-in-law to join him, rekindling his enthusiasm for the sport. 4:54 - He shares his journey to working in Troutroutes. His entry into the fly fishing industry began unexpectedly during a fishing trip with a friend, who suggested he apply for a position at TroutRoutes. After a successful interview with founder Zach Pope, Erik joined the initial team to support the app's development. 8:19 - We delve into the recent acquisition of Troutroutes by OnX, a well-known mapping application used by anglers. Erik explains that this acquisition, which took place in March after years of networking and relationship building, has been a significant milestone for Troutroutes. 10:55 - He discusses the key features of the app. Troutroutes specializes in mapping trout streams across the lower 48 states, offering stream classifications that are color-coded to indicate the quality of trout habitat and ease of access. This feature is particularly useful for beginners in trout fishing or fly angling, helping them identify healthy trout populations and accessible fishing spots. Additionally, the app provides detailed maps that show public and private land boundaries and legal access points, ensuring anglers know where they can fish without trespassing. A standout feature Erik highlights is the river miles calculator tool, which allows users to measure the distance between any two points on a trout stream. This tool is especially beneficial for planning fishing trips, whether for floating, walking, or wading. It provides precise stream miles rather than straight-line distances, making it easier to gauge the actual distance and plan accordingly. 13:53 - Erik mentions that one of the primary challenges is helping users determine what information they need when looking at a map of trout streams. To mitigate this, they outline icons and explain filter and layer settings to make data interpretation easier. Another significant challenge is presenting extensive data in a way that is easy to read, filter, and sort. Erik emphasizes the importance of organizing data meaningfully for different user needs, such as regulations or public access. 16:56 - He says that while maps are accessible online, users can download specific sections for offline use, ensuring the GPS signal remains functional even without cell coverage. This feature enhances navigation and instills confidence, especially in unfamiliar areas. Erik elaborates on the process of downloading maps, which can be done directly on a smartphone. 22:29 - Erik highlights the integration of USGS stream gauges within the app, a feature that provides real-time river conditions, which is crucial for assessing fishing prospects. This feature allows users to gauge stream levels, flows, and heights before even stepping onto the water, offering a significant advantage and a delightful surprise for many users. 25:34 - Our conversation also touches on the importance of fly shops within the app, which Erik notes was a key element from the beginning. These shops are not just places to buy gear but community hubs for conservation activities and educational events. The app manually maps these shops, connecting users with local expertise and resources. 29:51 - Erik reflects on the company's success, particularly emphasizing the importance of community and partnerships. He explains that a pivotal moment occurred about a year and a half ago when they attended their first national fly fishing expos. Initially uncertain of the outcome, they were pleasantly surprised by the positive reception and the eagerness from industry members to

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/638 Presented By: Visit Helena, MT, Skwala, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to be on Capitol Hill and make a presentation in front of our nation's leaders have the word pebble Mine passed through your brainwaves a few times, or associated projects. And what if someone told you that the governor of Alaska has not been doing a great job of protecting the fish species up in Alaska? My guest today is going to take us behind the scenes in the battle of protecting our remaining stalks of salmon species so you can enjoy your trip even more next time you're up in Alaska. Adam Cuthriell, owner of Fish Hound Expeditions and a conservation minded fanatic is gonna take us into another big topic that's on right now. He was just on Capitol Hill and we're gonna hear the story of what that felt like to him. Pretty awesome, pretty emotional. And we're just gonna describe what you can do right now to protect the fish species up there and around the country. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/638

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/637 Presented By: Skwala, Togiak River Lodge, Togens Fly Shop, Visit Helena, MT Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Kamden Glade, fisheries specialist from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, joins us to discuss his groundbreaking research on the Minnesota musky diet. In some regions, these formidable fish have earned a dubious reputation for preying on prized sport fish like walleye and bass. However, Kamden's research provides a different perspective, revealing that musky in Minnesota seldom consume these highly valued species. Throughout the episode, Kamden shares intriguing insights from his comprehensive study, including the innovative techniques used to examine the stomach contents of these apex predators without causing them harm. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of what musky feed on, the average sizes of their prey, and how this knowledge can enhance their chances of a successful catch during the fishing season. Episode Chapters with Kamden Glade on Minnesota Musky Research 3:45 - Kamden shares his lifelong passion for fishing, which started at a young age with his family, and later evolved into a professional career in fisheries biology. He explains that his interest in the ecology and biology of fish was sparked during his undergraduate studies, where a professor with a background in fisheries biology inspired him to pursue this path. 5:03 - His work in fisheries biology became more specialized during his graduate studies at Bemidji State University, where he led a research project analyzing the diets of muskies, walleye, northern pike, and largemouth bass in various lakes across Minnesota. This project aimed to address the negative perception of muskies, which are often thought to indiscriminately eat other fish species. 8:50 - Kamden discusses the diet of muskies, focusing on why walleye are not a significant part of their diet. Kamden explains that research, including studies in Minnesota and Wisconsin, shows that muskies primarily consume yellow perch and suckers. Other notable components of their diet include Northern pike, insects, aquatic invertebrates, and bullheads, depending on the region. Despite the presence of healthy walleye populations in the lakes studied, walleye were found in only four out of 650 muskie stomachs analyzed. This scarcity is not due to habitat differences, as both species often occupy the same areas in the lakes. Instead, it appears that walleye have effective defenses against predation. They have large tails for quick escapes, a heightened awareness of their surroundings, and sharp dorsal spines that deter muskies. 12:11 - We delve into the status, native range, and life history of muskies. Kamden explains that muskies are originally native to the Mississippi River and Ohio River basin, the Great Lakes drainage, and parts of Eastern and Central Canada. Despite remaining naturally reproducing in many systems, habitat changes caused by human activities like building dams and docks, and removing aquatic vegetation have led to a decline in natural reproduction. 14:27 - On the musky life history, he details that muskies typically spawn in spring when water temperatures range from the high 40s to low 60s, with peak spawning activity around the mid-50s. Unlike some fish, muskies do not build nests or defend their eggs. Instead, they spawn in shallow vegetation, and the eggs are left to fend for themselves. 16:25 - We talk about the conservation efforts surrounding musky fishing, particularly in Minnesota. Kamden explains that in Minnesota, muskies are generally not eaten, partly due to a statewide minimum size limit of 54 inches, which promotes their status as a trophy fish. This size limit means that by the time muskies reach 54 inches, they are usually quite old and less critical to the population, allowing for occasional harvesting without significant impact. 19:23 - I ask how their project has impacted public perception and regulations on musky fishing. Kamden explains that the project aimed to provide robust data on musky diets and their impact on other fish populations in Minnesota lakes. This data would help address any future disagreements or questions regarding musky management strategies. 22:09 - He describes how they got samples from the muskies' stomachs. What they did was catch them through electro-fishing. They had a generator that created an electrical field in the water. That temporarily stunned the fish enabling them to net and bring them on board. They put them in a live well to let them recover. They worked on these fish and then released them back into the lake. To get the food out from the fish, they used a regular bilge pump, hooked that up to a garden hose nozzle with a little piece of tubing and copper pipe on the end, and then they were able to put that pipe into the fish's mouth through their throat and into their stomach and then fill their stomach with water. That created pressure

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/636 Presented By: FishHound Expeditions Today, we hang out with Shannon Martin, executive director of the Kenai Sport Fishing Association. She's here to take us behind the scenes into what they are doing to protect the best salmon rivers in the country. Plus, we'll get an update on the Chinook status in this area. Have you heard of the suicide run? It's a multi-day fishing adventure where anglers stay up all night, catching their limit for the day and getting their limit again for the next day. There's nothing better than Alaska King Salmon. Let's jump into it with Shannon and KRSA. Show Notes with Shannon Martin on Kenai River Sportfishing Association. 02:34 - Shannon grew up in Alaska, where fishing has always been part of her life. About 15 years ago, her brother retired from the Army and got into fly fishing on the Kenai River. Shannon joined him, fell in love with it, and got hooked. Fly Fishing the Kenai River 03:48 - The Kenai River is over 80 miles long with more than 15 public access points. The river is famous for its huge salmon, including the world record King salmon that weighed 97 pounds. The "Suicide Run" and Dip Net Fishing 06:26 - The "suicide run" is a unique way to fish on the Kenai River. You get off work at 5:00 PM in Anchorage, drive down to the river, catch your limit of salmon by midnight, and then catch the next day's limit after midnight. This July, the sockeye salmon run is expected to bring in about 3.3 million fish, making it a great time to try out a suicide run. Dip net fishing is only for Alaska residents where they can harvest salmon using a five-foot-wide hoop net. Each household gets 25 fish for the head of the household and an additional 10 for each dependent. Kenai River Sportfishing Association 10:25 - Kenai River Sport Fishing Association was founded in 1984 by Bob Penney to protect Chinook salmon. Commercial fishing, especially with gill nets, impacts Chinook as they return to spawn. KRSA aims to balance commercial interests with preserving fish stocks for future generations. Check out our episode with Adam of FishHound Expeditions! He talked about his experience visiting Capitol Hill to spread the word about the issues facing Alaska's fish. 16:42 - Shannon explains how heavy foot traffic on the Kenai River banks harms salmon habitats. To fix this, they've built light-penetrating boardwalks. These walkways let people access the river without damaging the vegetation that holds the banks together. 18:35 - KRSA hosts events like the Kenai River Spring Cleanup, where local students help remove litter from the riverbanks. They organize the Jr Classic in the fall, where they introduce around 100 children to fishing and water safety. 24:19 - Shannon talks about the importance of educating anglers on proper catch and release techniques, especially for the declining Chinook salmon. 31:24 - We talk about KRSA's major project with Alaska State Parks to restore and improve a popular state recreation site on the Kenai. This includes: Installing light-penetrating boardwalks Adding stairwells Providing offsite parking Kenai River Classic 33:58 - The Kenai River Classic functions as not only an educational opportunity for KRSA to get together with local policymakers and philanthropists, but it's also a fundraiser. Highlights of the Kenai River Classic include: A three-day fishing event for about 150 participants The national round table on sport fish policy, in partnership with Yamaha Rightwaters Speakers from the American Sport Fishing Association and local tribal entities discussing important topics like the MMPA and in-river fishery protection. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/636

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/635 Today we're heading back north to Alaska to find out what the road system has to offer. Not only are we going to talk about where you can find 20 and 30-inch rainbows, but we're going to get Mike's take on why Chinook have taken such a downturn and why this is connected to 30 billion hatchery fish being released up there. We're also gonna talk about swinging for rainbows so you're ready this fall when the game turns on. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/635

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/634 Presented By: Stonefly Nets, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop In this podcast, Dave talks about In this episode, AJ Gottschalk of Project Healing Waters talks about how their organization helps veterans through fly fishing. But did you know it also benefits volunteers just as much? Today, we'll explore how their conservation program makes a difference and the opportunities to get involved. 2:22 - Growing up on Florida's southwest coast, AJ's first memory is getting stuck in the live well of his dad's boat at around age two and a half. He talked about how this memory resurfaced as he watched his own young son, begin to form his first memories. 4:16 - AJ recalls catching mega snook in Florida but truly fell in love with fly fishing during grad school in Buffalo, New York. Fishing the Great Lakes tributaries, he became an expert in drifting an indicator and later, swinging flies. 7:05 - AJ shares how he recently enjoyed using the rod for swinging small flies like the Partridge and Orange. He loves this simple yet demanding fly, especially when getting the partridge wrap just right. 11:15 - AJ continued with sharing his journey to becoming the creative director for Project Healing Waters. He mentioned his first encounter with the organization while working for Allen Fly Fishing, where they donated rods, reels, and hooks for fly tying, which showcased the program's impact. 13:36 - In 2005, Navy Captain Ed Nicholson founded Project Healing Waters at Walter Reed. He saw disabled veterans struggling and introduced them to fly casting. Now, the organization is nearing its 20th anniversary, continuing to support veterans from all service eras. 18:40 - AJ is proud to say that Project Healing Waters features diverse programs nationwide, mostly in Denver, Colorado Springs, and the National Capital region. 20:31 - Check out their website at projecthealingwaters.org. You'll find a locations list to see if there's a program near you. You can connect with a field support specialist, a regional coordinator, or your local program leader to find out when activities like fishing trips, fly tying sessions, or rod building meetings are happening. 29:57 - AJ highlightend an event that happened at Mosser Creek. Supporters of Project Healing Waters have made a lasting impact. One event that stand out most to him is the gathering of 15 veteran anglers and sponsors in Bridgewater, Virginia, bringing together the local community from Harrisonburg. 33:53 - AJ shared how his interest in fishing grew from studying archeology in grad school. 40:31 - AJ begins to explain how for many veterans, their call to serve doesn't end when they leave the military. It's natural for them to continue serving their communities and the natural environment that brings healing. 50:14 - He then brought up that there are many ways to support Project Healing Waters beyond writing a check. One saying goes, "The best ability is availability," emphasizing the value of donating time. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/634

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/633 Presented By: TroutRoutes Today, we're diving into the world of next-generation angling boats with Rich Batcheller from Abstract Watercraft. Rich is the brain behind the revolutionary carbon fiber raft. Find out how their design can help eliminate line tangles and redefine rafting, as well as the features that set this boat apart. Stay tuned for an insider's look into the future of watercraft with Rich Batcheller. Show Notes with Rich Batcheller on Abstract Watercraft. 02:28 - Rich's fly fishing journey is greatly influenced by his father. He grew up fishing for sturgeon and salmon on the Willamette River. Today, he enjoys saltwater cutthroat fishing on Bay Bridge Island. A quick shoutout to Brian Niska, the host of our In the Bucket Podcast. He recently chatted with Trevor Covich about steelhead fishing. Give it a listen here! Abstract Model 1 07:54 - Rich describes the Abstract Model 1 as an ultralight, self-bailing carbon fiber insert that drops into a whitewater raft. He explains how this design makes fishing easier and more efficient. Here are some standout features: Ultralight Design: Weighs around 275 pounds, 125–150 pounds lighter than a comparable drift boat. Carbon Fiber Insert (Provides a rigid floor and walk-around environment). No Traditional Rowing Frame Easy to Dismantle 12:51 - Rich shares their journey in developing this new category of boat, their vision, and the challenges faced. 17:48 - We explore the idea of selling their unique carbon fiber insert separately for other boat models. Rich acknowledges this possibility, but he mentions their partnership with SOTAR. He talks about SOTAR's durability and customer service, noting its lightweight and easy customization options, which align with everything Abstract Watercraft is trying to do. Check out our episode with Adam Hudson, where we talk about drift boats versus rafts. 28:20 - One big thing about their raft is the solid platform you can stand on. It lets you move around easily, which is super helpful when you're fishing or guiding people. 33:04 - Rich shared about his early career at Klein Bicycles, where he learned a lot about design and engineering from working alongside Gary Klein. Looking Forward with Abstract Watercraft 54:51 - Keep an eye on Abstract Watercraft's Instagram and website for their upcoming official boat launch. Rich is excited about this new model featuring integrated rod holders, extra storage, and lightweight carbon fiber materials. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/633