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S9 Ep 545Littoral Zone #8 - Dry Fly Strategies and Tactics for Stillwaters with Jeff Perin

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/545 Presented By: Northern Rockies Adventures, Jackson Hole Fly Company Today on the Littoral Zone we explore dry fly strategies and tactics with Jeff Perin, owner of Fly Fisher's Place in Sisters, Oregon. Join us as we explore his wealth of experiences, from local trout lakes to international waters, and discover the secrets behind his consistent success with surface flies, especially terrestrials. Show Notes with Jeff Perin on Dry Fly Strategies and Tactics for Stillwaters. 03:00 - Jeff Perin discusses his extensive travel experiences, leading trips from Belize to Argentina and exploring Patagonia. 05:00 - Jeff Perin recounts his unforgettable fishing expedition to Tasmania after encountering lodge owners Peter and Karen Brooks during the 50th-anniversary conclave of Fly Fishers International. 11:00 - At 55, Jeff contemplates retirement but remains dedicated to his shop, The Fly Fisher's Place, which is now in its 34th year. 12:49 - Jeff highlights some of the special lakes in Oregon, mentioning the renowned Crane Prairie Reservoir along with lesser-known gems. 15:18 - The Hosmer Lake once had Atlantic salmon. However, around a decade ago, the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife discontinued the Atlantic salmon stocking program and introduced cutthroat trout. 16:38 - Jeff says Eastlake is the prime callibaetis fishery in central Oregon, and arguably the top one in the state. 19:30 - Jeff believes that his clients find enjoyment not just in his humor and camaraderie, but also in the consistent success of catching fish, which he attributes to his emphasis on dry fly fishing. 30:30 - Jeff walks us through his preferred gear. Jeff primarily uses Sage rods, like the Sage R8 and some older Sage X models. 33:25 - Jeff opts for Rio Power Flex leaders when dry fly fishing, appreciating the thicker butt section for improved turnover, especially on windy days. He prefers Fluoroflex Plus fluorocarbon tippets in sizes 3X through 6X. 42:40 - Jeff enjoys using multiple flies when fishing dries personally, but acknowledges challenges when guiding due to tangle concerns and the time required for adjustments. 49:45 - Jeff explains what a drogue is and why it's such a neat tool to use on still waters. Jeff Perin's Favourite Stillwater Dries and Emergers Terrestrials • Jeff's Jiggy Beetle #12-16 • Quigley's Flag Ant #14-18 • RIO's Juicy Hopper, Pink, and Tan #8-12 Callibaetis • Harrop's Captive Dun #14-18 • Lafontaine's Halo Emerger #14-18 • Comparadun #14-15-16-17 Caddis • Tom Thumb #8-10 • X Caddis-Black #16-18 Damselflies • Chubby Chernobyl-Blue #10-12 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/545

Dec 25, 20231h 17m

S9 Ep 544WFS 544 - Hunting and Cooking Wild Game and Fish with John Schneider - Food Afield Podcast, Campfire Cooking, Foraging

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/544 Presented by: Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Skwala, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us in this episode featuring the one and only John Schneider, as we venture into the captivating realm of hunting and cooking wild game and fish. From his Food Afield Podcast to his expertise in campfire cooking, John will be sharing invaluable tips and skills that elevate the outdoor experience to new heights. Whether you're an avid outdoors enthusiast or a curious novice, this episode promises to deliver knowledge that will enrich your outdoor pursuits. Episode Chapters with John Schneider on Wild Game and Fish 2:50 - We talk about how John got into fly fishing. He was in his early 20s when he met his fishing mentor, Charlie Woodbury. 4:03 - He mentions the people whom he first connected with when he started hunting. He also shares how his love for hunting and cooking started when he was just a kid on a farm north of Edmonton. His mom wouldn't let him have a gun, so he went to bow instead. That's how he started learning bow hunting. 9:19 - He talks about the hunting culture in Canada and his daily hunting. He hunts and fishes for food. 12:42 - We dig into his podcast entitled Food Afield Podcast. He tells us how this came to be and how it has been going. Aside from hunting, he has been into radio broadcasting since childhood. 16:44 - He talks about how and why he came up with the different series on his website and podcast. These series are geared towards inspiring and educating people. 22:20 - He walks us through how he prepares and cooks wild game and fish. He doesn't like accumulating a lot of gear. He sticks to the basics like his durable pan and grill. He also says that the biggest thing in preparing any wild food is the method of preparation. 31:35 - I ask about how he prepares a whitetail. His favorite method is braising. 36:40 - He doesn't follow recipes in cooking, but he recommends learning how to make different sauces for your meat. 37:45 - He tells us how he makes sausages. 39:38 - He's big into layers. He not only hunts and fishes when he goes out, but also cooks, journals, and takes photos. 41:30 - He sells journals with prompts for people to answer and fill up about hunting and fishing. Check out his journals here. 45:10 - We touch on foraging. His friend Kevin Kossowan has a webseries called From the Wild where one of his focuses is foraging. He also runs foraging clinics and walks in Edmonton. 46:45 - He also recommends watching Les Stroud and Chef Paul Rogalski's series called Wild Harvest. 47:05 - He talks about the other animals he hunts for and eats which include his favorite, Ruffed grouse, Whitetail, and Sandhill crane. He also shares a tip: pre-make your sauces and store them in the freezer. 56:10 - We give a shout-out to one of our avid listeners. 57:02 - We dig into fishing. He regularly targets rocky mountain whitefish. 1:00:38 - He gives some valuable outdoor tips for safety. 1:05:14 - He talks about the knife that he has had for years from North Mountain Knives. 1:07:25 - He shares the podcast topics he likes listening to. He also recommends listening to his episode with Clay Newcomb with the MeatEater crew. 1:12:49 - We dive more into podcasting like my personal favorite episodes in the Wet Fly Swing and the current trend in the industry. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/544

Dec 22, 20231h 18m

S9 Ep 543WFS 543 - Tom Rosenbauer on Fly Casting and Hatch Strategies - Virginia Fly Fishing & Wine Festival, Orvis, Reach Cast

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/543 Presented By: Skwala, NR Adventures, Fishing Festival Tom Rosenbauer returns in this episode with a treasure trove of fly fishing wisdom. We hear about the Virginia Fly Fishing & Wine Festival and his long-standing friendship with Beau Beasley. Tom spills the secrets to successful casting and decoding hatch patterns. Plus, get behind-the-scenes anecdotes from twelve years of the Orvis Podcast, including moments with literary icons Tom McGuane and John McPhee. Show Notes with Tom Rosenbauer on Fly Casting and Hatch Strategies. 1:20 - We caught up with Tom last on Episode 63, so let's dive into what he's been up to since then. 05:09 - We delved into the Virginia Fly Fishing & Wine Festival and explored Tom's friendship with Beau Beasley. We had Beau as a guest on Episode 400. 07:26 - We talked about ways to elevate trout fishing, emphasizing the idea of being a generalist instead of solely focusing on one technique. 11:00 - Tom highlighted the crucial role of casting skills, emphasizing the need to master the standard overhead cast as a foundation for improving techniques like the double haul. 16:25 - Tom recommends watching instructional videos like Pete Kutzer's for a visual guide on how to do a reach cast. 18:49 - Tom highlighted the importance of reading water in trout fishing. Key factors to consider: Depth: 2 to 4 feet Velocity: Around 1 foot per second Flow: Uniform with minimal turbulence 31:40 - Tom encourages anglers to spend more time observing insect behavior and how fish respond to them rather than getting overly concerned about entomology. 43:27 - Tom discusses the Hatch Strategy philosophy, emphasizing that anglers often focus too much on fly patterns rather than crucial factors like approach angle, fish rhythm, and, most importantly, leader length. 53:06 - Tom shares his preference for a 7.5 ft 3wt rod for brook trout fishing in high mountain streams. 55:04 - We also talked about the Orvis Podcast that has been going on for twelve years now. 57:40 - Tom Rosenbauer recalls being particularly nervous for two episodes with his personal heroes, Tom McGuane and John McPhee. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/543

Dec 20, 20231h 1m

S9 Ep 542WFS 542 - Northern Rockies Adventure with Urs and Daniel Schildknecht - Canadian Rockies, Float Plane, Fishing Lodge

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/542 Presented By: Northern Rockies Adventures Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for an exhilarating journey as we venture into the heart of the Canadian Rockies with Daniel and his father, Urs, owners of the Northern Rockies Adventures lodge. We're taking you through the untouched backcountry, accessible only by float planes, and unfolding the unique fishing secrets hidden within. The rocky terrains here are home to an array of fish species such as rainbow trout, walleye, and the rare Arctic grayling, offering an invaluable opportunity for any fishing enthusiast. We are not just exploring the wilderness and its underwater treasures; we are also diving into the captivating world of float plane fishing. Sharing their journey, Daniel and Urs take us on a flight to remote fishing locations and reveal how they foster deep connections with their guests. They also express their love for flying and fishing, which has strengthened their bond as a father-son duo and created unforgettable memories. But the excitement doesn't stop at fishing. We also talk about the panoramic landscapes of the Northern Rockies, its stunning hot springs, and the incredible mountains that overlook the region. This episode is packed with a wealth of information on fly fishing techniques, the best gear to use in remote lakes, and tips on catching diverse fish species. Join us as we share the heartwarming story of Daniel and Urs' shared passion for flying and fishing, and the life they've built together. Whether you're an avid fisher or just love a good adventure, this episode has something for you. Episode Chapters - Northern Rockies Adventure (0:00:05) - Remote Wilderness Lodge in Northern Rockies Nature's remote fishing in Northern Rockies, species of fish, main lake Muncho, float planes, untouched backcountry, and Trout River's abundance of grayling. (0:07:51) - Fishing in Canadian Rockies Nature's unique fishery in the Canadian Rockies offers a diverse range of species, including the rare Inconnu fish, known as the "tarpon of the north. (0:16:36) - Float Plane Operations and Family Involvement Nature's unique float plane fishing experience, personal connections with guests, 70+ destinations, and specialized planes. (0:23:12) - Fly Fishing Adventures in Remote Locations Nature's untouched lakes, clean air, and thrilling fishing experiences for Arctic grayling, bull trout, and rainbow trout. (0:31:30) - Fishing for Pike and Bull Trout Nature's fishing opportunities in the Northern Rocky region, regulations for sustainability, taste and quality of fish, techniques and equipment used. (0:44:27) - Lake Trout and Fly Fishing Tips Nature's underappreciated lake trout and its two body morphs, catching a grand slam of six trophy species in the BC Rockies, fully guided trip with three hosts. (0:50:42) - Fishing Gear and Techniques Nature's fly fishing in remote Canadian lakes for pike, lake trout, and walleye, with a debate between eight and 10-wt rods and the influence of conventional fishing. (0:57:49) - Northern Rockies Hot Springs, Fishing, Conservation Nature's wonders in remote BC include hot springs, geothermal activity, fishing in two watersheds, and winter activities like chasing the northern lights. (1:06:56) - Fly Fishing Gear Essentials and Tips Nature's gear and equipment for fly fishing in mountain streams and rivers, including rod weight, fly patterns, and line selection. (1:13:47) - Flying, Family, and Future Father and son duo share a passion for flying and fishing, reflecting on memories, requirements for a pilot's license, and the beauty of Canadian winters. (1:18:37) - Flying to Remote Locations With King Air Brothers who own a remote lodge in Canada discuss the benefits of owning a private plane for non-stop travel and personalized guest experiences. (1:30:08) - Fishing Adventures in Canada Nature's beauty in British Columbia, fishing packages with cabin stays, meals, and flyouts, honoring late friend with beer. (1:38:38) - Learning From a Fishing Expert Experienced fly fisherman shares 40 years of knowledge and 70 prime spots in Northern BC, inviting listeners to explore the area. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/542

Dec 18, 20231h 40m

S9 Ep 541Traveled #14 - Drift Lodge & Fly Shop with Mike Wilson - Tiger Trout, Hebgen Lake, Henrys Lake

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/541 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton Get ready to embark on a virtual journey to the serene waters of Island Park, Idaho as we sit down with Mike Wilson of the Drift Lodge & Fly Shop. In this episode, Mike will be our guide to the abundant fishing opportunities that surround their lodge, offering insights into the thriving angling scene in Henrys Lake. From insider tips to the must-have flies, Mike will be unveiling the secrets to a fulfilling day on the water, whether you're targeting trout or other captivating catches. So, grab your favorite beverage, kick back, and prepare to be enthralled by Mike's wealth of knowledge and enthusiasm for the angler's haven of Island Park, Idaho. Episode Chapters with Mike Wilson on Drift Lodge & Fly Shop 1:06 - Mike's first memory of fishing is watching his dad fly fish in a lake in Central Utah. 5:08 - He tells us the interesting story of how he made a career out of fly fishing. 6:41 - He shares how the Drift Lodge & Fly Shop came to be in 2013 with the support and help of his wife. 11:15 - He mentions Lonnie Allen of the Three Rivers Ranch who he says has made living in Island Park and working in the industry a joy. 16:15 - He walks us through his guiding services for those who are interested to do stillwater fishing in Henry's Lake. 17:18 - He tells us how fishing at Hebgen Lake is different from that at Henry's Lake. 19:50 - He mentions other fishing opportunities in the area such as the Island Park Reservoir, Hebgen, Quake Lake, and Elk Lake. 20:30 - He talks about the regulation changes in Henry's Lake. 21:30 - He describes ice-off fishing in Idaho in April and May. He says that indicator fishing is great at that time of the year. 23:38 - Growing up, he used to ice fish in Scofield Reservoir in Central Utah. That's where he saw the biggest tiger trout he had ever seen. 26:25 - Their fishing season in Island Park kicks off in the Memorial Weekend. 27:45 - He talks about Bill Schiess, an advocate of their fly shop and author of the book Fishing Henrys Lake. 30:12 - He talks about his son Patrick who came back from the army with Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) due to a traumatic brain injury. He's now doing meaningful work for veterans. They have worked with non-profit organizations such as the Wounded Warrior Project and Project Healing Waters. 33:15 - His son now found his passion for fly fishing. He is their best-reviewed fishing guide. 36:00 - He tells us his gear setup for stillwater fishing in Hebgen and Henrys Lake. He carries five reels with him when stillwater fishing. 44:10 - He talks about his trip to Labrador where they fished for northern pike. 45:38 - He gives us some insider tips for those wanting to do a fishing trip in Island Park, Idaho. 53:12 - He mentions the species you can fish in Hebgen and Henrys Lake. 56:10 - We give a shout-out to Yellowstone Teton Territory. He talks about his role in the said organization and how it boosts tourism in Idaho. 57:50 - He mentions the other activities you can do in their area aside from fly fishing. 1:00:00 - He tells us more about their facilities in the Drift Lodge & Fly Shop. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/541

Dec 15, 20231h 5m

S9 Ep 540WFS 540 - Blue Line Flies with Adam Hudson - Streamers, Smallmouth Bass, Hobo Steve

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/540 Presented By: Daiichi, Togens Fly Shop Dive into the world of bass fishing and fly design with Adam Hudson of Blue Line Flies today on the Swing. We hear about Adam's early days catching bream with Walmart poppers to founding Blue Line Co. We also explore their popular flies like the Cooter Brown and MeeMaw and get a behind-the-scenes look at their meticulous design process. Plus, get an exclusive peek into Adam's passion project, the Isuzu Project, and discover what's in store for Blue Line Flies in 2024. Episode Chapters with Adam Hudson on Blue Line Flies 01:34 - Adam is from North Alabama, known more for regular bass fishing than fly fishing. He grew up near a lake famous for the Bassmaster Classic. In late elementary school, he tried fly fishing in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park with his uncle, who inspired his interest in fly fishing. 4:08 - Adam shared that his first flies were bream poppers from Walmart. He'd ride his bike to the golf course pond, where he began catching bream. Occasionally, he'd also land some smallmouth, which fought hard and got him thinking about mastering the art of catching them. For Adam, this experience marked a turning point that he believes changed his life. 07:33 - Adam relocated to Salt Lake City around five years ago and is set to move to Boise next spring. Blue Line Flies 09:30 - Blue Line Co. was founded in 2017 with his friend Hobo Steve. 11:00 - While managing a fly shop, Adam noticed the challenge of finding bass flies. Many available options were either designed for saltwater or repurposed trout streamers or poppers. 16:46 - Adam shares insights into his home waters in Alabama. 23:38 - Adam delves into the intricacies of finding smallmouth bass. 29:05 - One of their most popular flies with a lot of movement is the Cooter Brown. Another renowned fly in their collection is the MeeMaw. 34:50 - Adam takes us through the process of creating and designing their flies, emphasizing their commitment to ensuring all their flies feature high-quality hooks. 36:06 - When designing a streamer, Adam mentioned their goal is to maximize movement while minimizing the distance it covers in the water. 38:56 - Adam shares the history of @Brpatt's Tickle Monster, a fly he considers the best crawfish fly available. 54:34 - Adam tells us about his Isuzu Project. 1:00:20 - Adam gives us a glimpse of what's on the horizon for Blue Line Flies in 2024. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/540

Dec 13, 20231h 3m

S9 Ep 539WFS 539 - Commercial Tying with Allen Rupp - Dave Whitlock, Fly Tying School, Fly Fishing Festival

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/539 Presented By: Northern Rockies Adventures Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready to journey into the enthralling world of fly-tying as we bring you an episode packed with expert insights and personal anecdotes that will surely refine your fly-tying skills and deepen your appreciation for this remarkable sport. Join us as our esteemed guest, Allen, takes us down memory lane, recounting his first encounter with fly fishing, his evolution in the sport, and his unique connection to the legendary Dave Whitlock. Hear about his upcoming teaching stint at the Texas and Virginia fly fishing festivals and his recent endeavors fishing for diverse species from striped bass to smallmouth bass. Allen brings his wealth of knowledge to the conversation, sharing his experience in creating custom flies for different types of fish and locations. He takes us through the creation of his popular fly, the Clouser Bend Back Minnow - a Clouser Minnow inspired with an added bend back hook and Dave Whitlock's hard mono weed guard to relive the fly-tying legends' legacy. We then steer the conversation to the technical side of fly tying, delving into material selection and sharing valuable tips for beginners. We even talk about Allen's favorite pizza, setting the stage for the upcoming beer and wine festival in Virginia. Allen returns to round up the conversation, emphasizing the art of fly tying, his big influence from Dave Whitlock, and the benefits of seeking guidance from local fly shops. It's a whirlwind of knowledge, passion, and camaraderie—so tune in and get hooked on the fascinating world of fly tying! Episode Chapters - Commercial Fly Tying (0:01:01) - Fly Tying and Festivals with Dave Whitlock Species fished, upcoming festivals, Dave Whitlock's techniques, mentor-mentee relationship, and fly patterns. (0:13:43) - Fly Tying Techniques and Tips Tying techniques for saltwater flies, including attaching eyes and tails, using adhesives, and preventing tail wrapping. (0:21:35) - Fly Patterns and Techniques for Tying We talked about custom flies for different fish and locations. (0:31:43) - Hook Foundations Fly-tying tips include using Zappa Gap and tight thread wraps to secure lead eyes on hooks with a non-smooth finish. (0:35:30) - Considerations and Tips for Fly Tying Fly-tying for beginners, investing in a good vice and materials, and upcoming classes and festivals. (0:46:20) - Fly Tying Techniques and Material Selection Fly tying techniques, material selection, and evolution of style. (0:51:16) - Art of Fly Tying and Dave Whitlock's Legacy Fly-tying art with Dave Whitlock, discussing weed guards, famous patterns, legacy, art, and continuing it through donations. (0:59:34) - Vice, Pizza, and Fishing Conversations We talked about Bob Clouser and discussed the upcoming Virginia fly-tying festival. (1:05:26) - Fly Tying Tips and Local Shops Fly tying art, tips for beginners, and the influence of renowned fly tier Dave Whitlock are discussed with professional fly tier Allen. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/539

Dec 11, 20231h 7m

S9 Ep 538WFS 538 - Togiak River Lodge with Zack and Jordan Larsen - Bristol Bay, Alaska Wildernes, King Salmon

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/538 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Ever found yourself dreaming of the Alaskan wilderness, casting your fly into pristine waters teeming with abundant fish? Join us as we follow brothers Zach and Jordan on a thrilling journey from the early days of fishing with their dad, to becoming skilled fly fishers on the Togiak River in Alaska. They share vivid memories of their fishing journey, the allure of the Togiak River Lodge, and the unexpected twist that saw them contemplating its ownership. An adventure that is sure to stir your imagination and pull at your heartstrings. Wrapped in the wild beauty of the Togiak River, we explore the challenging dynamics of running a family business. Jordan shares his multitude of experiences – from managing the lodge, to nurturing his newfound passion for video production. Get ready to soak up insightful tips about trust, communication, and the intricacies of managing people in a family-run business. As the narrative unfolds, the brothers find themselves navigating the complex process of possibly acquiring the lodge. Hear about their intriguing journey, filled with unexpected turns, opportunities, and valuable lessons. Planning a trip to the Togiak Lodge in Bristol Bay, Alaska? We've got you covered! We dive into the vibrant fishing culture in this remote corner of the world. Discover the diverse fishing options on the Togiak River, understand the best fishing times and techniques for each fish species, and get a sneak peek into the amenities available at the lodge. We also share the unique challenges and rewards of living and working in this wildly beautiful location. So, whether you're an avid angler, a passionate outdoor enthusiast, or someone who just loves a good story, this episode is a must-listen! Episode Chapters - Togiak River Lodge (0:00:05) - Fishing Memories and Fly Fishing Journey Brothers Zach and Jordan share their love for fishing and learning to fly fish in Alaska's target-rich Togiak River. (0:06:59) - The Fishing Experience in Tokyak, Alaska Nature's untouched beauty and abundant rainbow trout attract adventurous fishermen to the remote Togiak River in Alaska. (0:12:45) - Dream Job at Tugiak River Lodge The hosts discuss their dream of visiting a lodge in Alaska, one of them gets the opportunity to work there, and they reflect on their experiences. (0:20:38) - Filming to Management in Family Business Jordan discovers passion for video production while managing a fishing lodge, emphasizing trust and communication in a family-run business. (0:26:21) - Taking Over Lodge in Challenging Times Zach and Jordan unexpectedly consider purchasing the Alaska fishing lodge after a conversation with a guest and navigating a challenging summer. (0:37:32) - Lodge's Trip Options and Arrival Process Nature's trip logistics, schedule, arrival/departure times, orientation, and popularity of shorter trips at a fishing lodge in Bristol Bay, Alaska. (0:44:50) - Fishing Options and Fly Fishing Opportunities Nature's diverse fishing options at Togiak River, Alaska include salmon, rainbow trout, grayling, spay-only rotation, silver fishery, top water and mousing. (0:49:33) - Fishing Season at Togiak River Nature's fishing opportunities on the Togiak River in Alaska, including best times, techniques, low water conditions, trophy-sized fish, and access options. (1:02:11) - Outdoor Amenities and Fishing Regulations Guests can enjoy outdoor activities, lounge area, sauna, and responsible fishing for salmon at the lodge. (1:14:25) - Alaska Travel Planning and Logistics Owners of Togiak Lodge share insights on running a remote fishing lodge in Alaska, discussing logistics and unpredictable nature. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/538

Dec 8, 20231h 16m

S9 Ep 537WFS 537 - Oregon Jetty Fishing with Garrett Lesko - Black Rockfish, Lingcod, InvisaSwivel

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/537 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togiak, Northern Rockies Adventures, FishHound Expeditions Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, Garrett Lesko takes us into Oregon jetty fishing. He shares his insights, experiences, and expertise on this unique angling pursuit. We also explore the fascinating realm of jetty fishing, including the diverse species he targets, the flies he uses, and his gear setup. Additionally, we uncover the unique component of his gear setup, the InvisaSwivel, which adds an extra element of effectiveness and convenience to his style. Join us as we unravel the thrilling world of Oregon jetty fishing with Garrett Lesko. Episode Chapters with Garrett Lesko on Oregon Jetty Fishing 2:12 - Garrett gives some updates on his life since we had him on the podcast in episode 236 two years ago. He got into competitive fishing. He shares all the details about his first fly fishing competition in his blog. 3:42 - He tells the step-by-step process of how to join a fishing competition. FlyComps.com is the main hub in the US. 6:55 - We talk about the advantages and disadvantages of doing in-person fishing seminars versus a virtual event. 10:32 - He's a member of the Linn Benton Family Flyfishers. Their club is a partner of their local fly shop called the Two Rivers Fly Shop. Bob Elliot, their club president, is in charge of the Northwest Expo this year. 13:35 - We dig into jetty fishing. We also had an episode about this with Brian Marz in episode 97. Garrett gives a shout-out to Brian for pioneering jetty fishing. 15:40 - He mentions some popular areas in Oregon where you can do jetty fishing. One of which is the Depoe Bay. He says that the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest shot a scene there. 21:00 - He walks us through how to fish in the jetty. He also mentions some of the species that you would mostly get in the jetty such as black rockfish, cabezon, and lingcod which he says is very rare. He also shared more about this in his blog post titled "Beginner's Guide to PNW Jetties". 26:20 - He delves into the flies he uses for catching rockfish. He also wrote about this in his blog post titled "Fly Design for Pacific Rockfish". For him, the tried and true fly that he can guarantee success on is the Clouser. 29:49 - Another one of his go-to flies for jetty fishing is the Jetty Worm from Spawn Fly Fish and Finesse Gamechanger. 32:12 - He tells us his gear set-up for Oregon jetty fishing. He uses an 8-wt Echo Boost Salt which he says is an affordable and mid-tier rod. His reel is the Behemoth Reel from Redington. He also gives a valuable tip for taking care of your reel. 41:09 - He introduces the InvisaSwivel which he adds to his set-up to help his fly float. 45:50 - He gives valuable tips on what to wear and bring for jetty fishing to ensure safety. I give a shout-out to NRS for their Chinook Fishing PFD. 56:22 - He tells us about that time when he and his friend caught about 200 rockfish in the jetty. 1:01:30 - He mentions the areas in Oregon where you can fish at night. He uses the Milwaukee Flood Light when doing so. The fish are more active in the evening except the lingcod. 1:03:50 - I ask about his countdown in stripping. 1:08:50 - He recommends bringing a lot of flies when jetty fishing because you're probably gonna lose a lot of lies. He also mentions Seaguar Blue Label Fluorocarbon Leader. 1:10:27 - We give a shout-out to Connor Baker, the winner of our last big giveaway. 1:11:16 - He reveals his bucket list trips. 1:12:50 - He shares his top five movies. 1:15:13 - He gives us tips on Stillwater fishing and tells us about the guy he ties flies for who uses a kiddie pool at home to practice his casting. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/537

Dec 6, 20231h 24m

S9 Ep 536WFS 536 - Patagonia Founder Yvon Chouinard and Craig Mathews - 1% for the Planet, Conservation, Fly Fishing

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/536 Presented By: Daiichi, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us in one of our biggest episodes as we journey into a world that combines the thrill of the outdoors with a passion for conservation. This episode offers an intriguing dialogue featuring Craig Mathews and Yvon Chouinard, Patagonia Founder and an iconic figure in the outdoor world; unraveling their love for fly fishing, their unique backstories, and their shared principles around the sport and beyond. Yvon, introduced to fly fishing by an esteemed mountain guide, will leave you gripped with his narrative, from his shift from spin fishing to a sneak peek into their upcoming book, and their fervor for conservation in the fishing industry. This episode isn't just about fly fishing; it's also a masterclass in conservation ethics and business wisdom. Listen as the founders of 1% for the Planet discuss their dedication to environmental protection through their businesses. Yvon's candid viewpoint on our planet's future underscores the necessity of giving back to nature. Dive into Yvon's philosophy of simplicity, both in life and fly fishing, and ponder over the pitfalls of the industry's focus on trendiness and constant equipment upgrades. Finally, we steer our conversation towards the artistry involved in fly fishing. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned angler, you'll appreciate the tips on techniques, the importance of choosing the right flies, and insights on the role of technology in fly fishing. This episode is more than an exploration of fly fishing; it's a call to simplicity, effectiveness, and ethics in the sport and in life. Come join us on this immersive experience! Episode Chapters with [guest name] on [keyword] (0:00:02) - Passion and Community in Fly Fishing Fly fishing, conservation, and Yvon Chouinard's new book are discussed in a conversation with Craig Mathews and the hosts. (0:03:38) - Conservation Ethics and Business Advice Nature's conservation and simplification in fly fishing are discussed by Perfect, Craig, and Yvon, emphasizing responsibility and critiquing the industry's focus on fashion and equipment upgrades. (0:14:05) - Fly Fishing Techniques and Flies Nature's simplicity and effectiveness in fly fishing, using imitation flies and minimal materials, and the role of technology. (0:21:18) - Using Pheasant Tail in Fly Tying Nature's pheasant tail materials are simple to use for dry and wet flies, resembling natural insects and effective for imitating various species. (0:31:54) - Passion, Success, and Outdoor Conservation Nature's conversation between Yvon Chouinard and Craig Mathews on fly fishing, conservation, and supporting local groups. (0:49:57) - Gear and Sustainability in Fly Fishing Nature's preservation and fly fishing's connection to it, gear, environmental efforts, and upcoming book. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/536

Dec 4, 202354 min

S9 Ep 535WFS 535 - Travel Creel with Joshua Schwartz - Fly Fishing Destinations, Culinary, Fishing Lodge

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/535 Presented By: Daiichi, Dette Flies Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors We're thrilled to introduce Josh Schwartz, a culinary wizard and fly-fishing enthusiast whose fascinating journey has led him to merge his passions into an incredible career. With the lure of a fishing rod in one hand and a chef's knife in the other, Josh has crafted a unique lifestyle that brims with adventure, challenges, and mouthwatering meals by the river. Listen closely as he narrates his story of turning a childhood hobby of fishing into a life-altering profession, highlighting his exceptional company, Travel Creel, which weaves together his love for fishing, cooking, and exploring the world. Join us and be transported to remote locations where Josh, all equipped with his fishing gear and cooking utensils, prepares delectable meals while pursuing his love for fly fishing. He beautifully balances the roles of a seasoned chef and an experienced fishing guide, serving up warming grilled cheese sandwiches by the river and sharing tales of his upcoming culinary adventure in Baja, Mexico. While he's not cooking up a storm or helping his clients hook a catch, Josh navigates the challenges of sourcing fresh ingredients in foreign lands, bringing an extra dash of authenticity to his curated meals. On this journey, we also get a sneak peek into Josh's life beyond the kitchen and the river. Owning a lodge in Mexico, he shares with us how he manages to juggle the spheres of business and pleasure, the highs and lows of the job, and its impact on his personal life. As he prepares to take his love for fishing to the shores of San Carlos and his culinary skills to Belize and the Bahamas, Josh reveals his vision for the future of Travel Creel. So, gear up to be a part of a conversation that will inspire you with its blend of fishing, travel, cooking, and the art of guiding. Get ready to bait your hook, chop your ingredients, and dive into an epicurean adventure like never before. Episode Chapters - Travel Creel (0:00:05) - Travel Career and Fishing Adventures Josh shares his journey from fishing to becoming a chef and creating Travel Creel, combining fishing, cooking, and travel. (0:10:51) - Culinary Adventures and Fishing Trips Nature's cooking and guiding in fly fishing, including challenges, satisfaction, and sourcing ingredients in foreign countries. (0:22:38) - Chef's Travel Food Program A chef travels to source ingredients, builds relationships with local producers, and plans to train others to create a fun and memorable experience for clients. (0:26:01) - Balancing Fun and Business in Fishing Nature's balance, affordability, and family impact in fly fishing discussed with a private chef and lodge owner. (0:38:04) - Building a Hospitality-Based Travel Program Nature's local food and connections in Baja, Belize, and Bahamas, and the future of Travel Creel's culinary and fishing experiences. (0:48:26) - Fishing Trips and Future Plans The host shares their upcoming fishing trips, including a new private trout lake and hiring local guides for roosterfish in Baja. They also express their love for saltwater fishing and expanding their clientele. (0:59:47) - Travel Options and Opportunities Nature's destinations and unique experiences were discussed with Josh from travelcreel.com, including potential collaboration and exploring Salt as a destination. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/535

Dec 1, 20231h 1m

S9 Ep 534WFS 534 - Smallmouth Bass Flies with Jake Villwock - Crayfish, Circus Peanut, Tungsten Beads

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/534 Presented by: NR Adventures, Stonefly Nets, Smitty's Fly Box Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Welcome to our latest episode featuring Jake Villwock, author of the book Smallmouth Bass Flies. In this episode, we will take you on a journey to Pennsylvania for a typical bass fishing trip with Jake and his team. He will share his techniques and tips on how to catch smallmouth bass, and his gear set up when bass fishing. Jake also gives insight into the flies he uses when bass fishing, so whether you're a beginner or an experienced angler, you won't want to miss this episode! Episode Chapters with Jake Villwock on Smallmouth Bass Flies 1:34 - Jake shares with us his first memory of fly fishing. His first fish on a fly was a blue gill and his second was a striper. Stripers and saltwater have always been one of his favorite things to target. 3:52 - He has been known for smallmouth bass fishing. He wrote a book titled Smallmouth Bass Flies - Top to Bottom. 5:02 - He talks about the similarities between smallmouth bass and trout. 7:24 - Currently, he operates in South Central Pennsylvania, mainly guiding in Juniata and Susquehanna. Their bass season is from late March to the end of October. 9:41 - Along with other guides, he also guides for steelhead fishing in Lake Eerie and up in New York. He also describes how they do bass fishing. 12:30 - He describes a typical bass fishing trip with them in their area. They meet their clients in a quaint diner called Thompsontown Corner Deli to have breakfast. He also describes the lunch they serve on their trips. 17:20 - We talk about drinking in guiding trips. He mentions the brand Athletic which sells non-alcoholic beer. 19:50 - He explains why big bass in the springtime is very aggressive and shares some tips on how to catch them during this time. He says that keeping yourself low and slow is how you will catch them. 24:15 - We talk about crayfish which is a large portion of the smallmouth's diet in the summertime. He describes his setup with a crayfish fly pattern. 28:28 - He describes how he uses the tip of the fly line to his advantage. He always casts slightly upstream to have a little bit of an angle. Paying attention to the tip of the line to manage the speed of your retrieve is very important. 33:40 - We dig into the fly patterns he uses. The size of the claws of the crayfish is very important to consider. He further describes how he ties his crayfish flies and the materials he uses. 38:49 - One of his favorite flies for the springtime it's still cold is Russ Maddin's circus peanut. We had Russ on the podcast in episode 253. 39:55 - He tells us his signature flies. You can also see how he ties his flies through his YouTube at Relentless TV. He recently signed a contract with Montana Fly Company (MFC). We talked about MFC in episode 531 with Jake Chutz. 41:30 - He walks us through how he targets a fish in top water and subsurface. 47:06 - He also gives tips on finding a fish depending on the season when you're new in the area. June and October are the months when it's hard to find fish. The best thing to do is to start on the banks and float the river when it's low and clear. 51:40 - He gives more tips on his setup, particularly lines. He gives a shoutout to Scientific Angler for their amazing triple-density lines. He also mentions their Stillwater Hover. 55:03 - He mentions the tungsten beads which are good for when you can't see the fish. 56:30 - He usually sees bigger fish during the summertime when the water is clear. He also explains his theory of how the color of the fish tells you if it's ready to eat. 59:57 - When he's bait fishing, he uses a leader that is six to eight feet. For cray fishing and dry fly fishing, he uses a 10 to 12-ft leader. 1:00:42 - He gives valuable tips on casting. When it comes to cray fishing, the more perfect you make the cast, the worse it's going to be. 1:03:10 - He talks about catching steelhead vs big bass in the Lake Eerie. 1:06:00 - We do the Fly Shop Shout-out segment. He mentions the TCO Fly Shop which has multiple shops in Pennsylvania. For those who want to get a trip with Jake's team, they can book with TCO. 1:07:45 - His boat is a Clacka HeadHunter Skiff II. He also uses an NRS Raft in the spring. 1:08:13 - He gives one last tip for bass fishing. 1:09:29 - He leaves us with a funny story about that time when he fell off the boat while guiding. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/534

Nov 29, 20231h 12m

S9 Ep 533WFS 533 - Trey Combs on Flies For Atlantic Salmon & Steelhead - Harry Lemire, Steelhead Trout

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/533 Presented By: Northern Rockies Adventures, Smitty's Fly Box Embark on an exhilarating angling odyssey with the legendary Trey Combs as he unveils his latest masterpiece, "Flies For Atlantic Salmon & Steelhead." In this episode, Trey reminisces about his groundbreaking earlier books like "Steelhead Trout" and "Steelhead Fly Fishing and Flies," and reveals fascinating stories about his encounters with legends like Harry Lemire. Tune in for a captivating conversation that spans Trey's diverse experiences, from horse breeding to boat building, and his optimism about the future of steelhead conservation. Episode Chapters with Trey Combs on Flies For Atlantic Salmon & Steelhead 01:17 - Trey Combs was one of the first guests we had on the podcast. He is back on the show today to give us an update on what he's been up to and to talk about his latest book. 01:50 - For the past five years, Trey has been writing a book about major watersheds. However, the depressing topic of extinct steelhead races, especially in the Sacramento River area, prompted him and Tom to reevaluate and narrow the focus to a book centered around flies. 13:00 - John Shewey's meticulous research in Scotland on Spey flies played a crucial role in Trey's book project. 14:48 - Trey's earlier books, like Steelhead Trout and Steelhead Fly Fishing and Flies, were game-changers in the field. 17:00 - Trey met Harry Lemire at a small outdoor show in Seattle during the release of Steelhead Trout. 31:16 - Trey's new book is currently available in the market and anyone interested in picking up a copy can visit the Wild River Press. 33:43 - Trey tells us about the incident where he injured his back while assisting a mare in labor. Interestingly, this occurred during the time when Trey owned a seven-figure horse breeding facility in Washington, predating his later venture into boat building. 35:12 - Trey also recounts the tale of acquiring a race boat for those who may have missed the story during our previous conversation five years ago. 54:00 - Trey talks about the decline in steelhead runs. 1:11:36 - Trey expresses optimism about the potential for steelhead conservation if people adopt a more responsible attitude towards fishing. 1:19:00 - Trey favors a dark fly, particularly one with a black wing, for summer steelhead. His go-to pattern is Frank Amato's Night Dancer. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/533

Nov 27, 20231h 27m

S9 Ep 532WFS 532 - Backcountry Skinz with Kelly Reaume - Wading Gear, Bull Trout, Fly Fishing Canada

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/532 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Chota Outdoor Gear, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready to embark on a fishing adventure in the breathtaking landscapes of Western Canada. Join us in this episode as we welcome Kelly Reaume, one of the Founders of Backcountry Skinz. Brothers, Mike and Kelly are two Ontario natives with an unquenchable passion for fly fishing, who have embraced the alpine lakes and rivers of Calgary and BC as their playground. Together, we explore the joy of reeling in bull trout, the thrill of being the only ones on the river, and the almost mythical allure of untouched wilderness. Prepare to be intrigued as we unravel the innovative concept of neoprene compression pants for fishermen. A brainchild birthed from their personal experiences, these pants are a game-changer for fly fishing outfits, offering extra warmth and portability. Hear their entrepreneurial journey, from funding the first prototypes with Mike's wedding money to the creative design process that brings their unique vision to life. As we navigate through the world of fly fishing, we delve into their plans to expand the brand in Canada and beyond. We discuss the saltwater fly fishing scene, their dealer in New Zealand, and their ambitious global outreach. We also touch on the affordability of their neoprene compression pants, the peculiar challenges posed by Canada's small population, and their strategic response. Wrap up with a quick lesson on bull trout fishing in Alberta and learn from the best the right flies to use and the perfect technique to present the fly. This episode is not just about fishing; it's about the joy of creativity, the courage of entrepreneurship, and the relentless pursuit of passion. Episode Chapters - Backcountry Skinz (0:00:05) - Exploring Fly Fishing in Western Canada Mike and Kelly share their fly fishing experiences in Calgary and BC, discussing the rivers, mountains, bull trout, and alpine lakes. (0:07:53) - Neoprene Leggings for Fishing Mike and Kelly created neoprene compression pants for fishermen, using wedding money for the first prototypes, with benefits such as extra warmth and easy packing. (0:15:26) - Discussion on Fishing Shorts and Designs Neoprene compression pants offer lightweight protection, UV ray protection, comfort, and compression support for knee issues. (0:21:49) - Expanding Fishing Brand in Canada Mike and Kelly discuss saltwater fly fishing, international outreach, Canada/US differences, neoprene compression pants, and content creation. (0:31:13) - Fishing for Bull Trout With Flies Mike and Kelly suggest using small nymphs to catch bull trout in Alberta's headwaters in July and August, and Kokani in November and December, with a technique of casting upstream and downstream. (0:40:47) - Fly Fishing Industry Marketing Strategies Mike and Kelly share their passion for music, discussing genres, setting the tone for fly fishing, and tips for Alberta. (0:45:42) - Joe Rogan, Fishing, and Waterproofing Joe Rogan's podcast discusses Back Country Skins' new products, fly fishing tips, and favorite music. (0:50:43) - Floating and Fishing With Backcountry Skins Mike and Kelly share tips on catching bull trout, discuss neoprene compression pants for fly fishing, and explore Joe Rogan's podcast and 'Back Country Skins' business. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/532

Nov 24, 202352 min

S9 Ep 531WFS 531 - The Montana Fly Company with Jake Chutz - Adam Trina, Boat Box, Sparkle Minnow

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/531 Presented by: Bearvault, Skwala Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we delve into Montana Fly Company, exploring its rich journey, innovative products, and remarkable fly patterns, with a particular focus on their renowned boat box and the sparkle minnow. We also dig into their fly patterns, which are renowned for their effectiveness and attention to detail. He discussed the meticulous process of designing and producing these patterns, as well as their versatility and success in attracting various species of fish. Episode Chapters with Jake Chutz on Montana Fly Company 1:53 - Jake shares an interesting story of how he got into fly fishing and ultimately worked in the Montana Fly Company. 6:48 - We talk about the Henry's Lake area. We will fish in that area in 2024 with Phil Rowley and Darren Huntsman. Go to wetflyswing.com/stillwaterschool to get a slot. 8:40 - The Montana Fly Company was founded in 1998 by Adam Trina. Jake came to the company in 2012. 11:55 - When Adam built the brand, he also started his own fly factory from the ground up. 13:38 - He shares the reasons behind the success of the Montana Fly Company. 19:22 - Phil Rowley is one of their fly designers. He talks about how he designs the flies. 21:12 - We dig into their fly boxes, particularly their boat box. 25:10 - Their website is still under construction, but he gives a sneak peek of what their clients can expect once it's up. 29:13 - Jake gives us a primer on their flies. Sparkle minnow streamer is one of their most successful patterns in the last 25 years. Kelly Galloup designed a number of their streamers at MFC. 37:03 - We had Chad Johnson in episode 524. He has a fly named "The Big Johnson". 38:08 - I ask him about their process in naming their flies. He also tells about that time when he met the one who named Kelly Galloup's fly. 40:51 - One of their bestselling flies is the Purple Haze by Andy Carlson. 45:08 - He walks us through how they vet and test their fly patterns. 48:00 - Currently, they have roughly 2,300 patterns with more to come. 48:30 - We do the fly shop shout-out. He mentions Lary's Fly and Supply and Lakestream Fly Shop. 49:30 - I throw him rapid-fire questions. He tells us his go-to fly patterns, his indicator for nymphing, his truck and boats, and his dream vehicle. 55:22 - He gives us valuable tips for fishing lakes and rivers. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/531

Nov 22, 202358 min

S530 Ep 9Traveled #13 - Miller Drift Boats with Sam Whitlock - Hyde Drift Boats, NRS Rafts, Hyde Montana Skiffs

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/530 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Picture an eager eight-year-old, fishing rod in hand, standing by a South Dakota pond. That was Sam, embarking on a journey that would lead to a lifelong passion for fly fishing. Now, we invite you to come along as my guest Sam shares fishing tales and tips, from the peaceful corners of Eastern Idaho to the sturdy boats of Miller Drift Boats. Our episode navigates the tranquil world of fly fishing, discussing the pursuit of quiet spots away from the crowds and the unique experiences Eastern Idaho offers. Our conversation flows into an exploration of drift boating, examining models like the Hyde Pro Series and the Montana Skiff, and discussing the durability of different materials and designs. We also share essential safety tips for drift boating, emphasizing the importance of wearing life jackets and proper anchor use. Our chat takes a detour into the local scene of Henry's Fork and the charm of the local fly shop, Jimmy's Fly Fish Food. Sam shares his personal experiences with drift boating and dives into the necessity of safety on the river, rounding off our episode. Come join us on this angling adventure, filled with stories, laughter, and invaluable tips for both newbies and seasoned fly fishers. Episode Chapters - Miller Drift Boats (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Miller Drift Boats Sam began fly fishing at age 8, learning to catch bluegill and watching bass eat them, and later in college discovered the art of fly fishing and caught fish after fish. (0:09:06) - Fishing Trips and Finding Quiet Spots Enjoy fly fishing, helping guests find peaceful rivers away from crowds, and sharing the joys of nature. (0:12:40) - Fishing in Eastern Idaho and Durability Miller Drift Boats and Hyde's unique boats discussed for extra effort fly fishing spots. (0:22:15) - Types of Boats and Safety Considerations Leg locks, aluminum vs. fiberglass, safety, and finding the best spot for fly fishing. (0:34:13) - Drift Boat Rowing and Safety Tips Prioritize safety when drift boating; row away from danger, avoid fast water and big rocks, and consider restrictions on teaching and guiding. (0:38:06) - Life Jackets and Anchors We discuss life jackets, anchors, NRS Matique Inflatable life jackets, and Tornado Anchors for fly fishing safety. (0:41:15) - Boat and Fishing Recommendations in East Idaho We discuss fishing opportunities on Henry's Fork, Jimmy's Fly Fish Food, Hyde Pro Series XL, Montana Skiff, and safety. (0:54:21) - Music, Podcasts, and Boat Talk Sam and I discussed river safety, boats, life jackets, anchors, and fly fishing on Henry's Fork. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/530

Nov 20, 202356 min

S9 Ep 529WFS 529 - Backpacking and Blisters with Carl Mandrioli - Colorado Hiking, Outdoor Podcast, Backpacking Gear

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/529 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Togens Fly Shop, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Dette Flies Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us for an engaging episode as we kick things off with the tale of how Carl was bitten by the backpacking bug and how it eventually led to them starting a podcast. His journey began with a burning desire to be part of the adventures his high school friends embarked on, and he has never looked back since. Their podcast, Backpacking and Blisters came to life from the back of a minivan during a return trip from Glacier National Park. Their goal was to create something entertaining, something more than what was already out there, and it's safe to say they've achieved that and much more. Listen in as we share invaluable tips on gear selection and trip planning for backpacking adventures. From discussing Carl's love for trail running to exploring the various gear options for backpacking, we leave no stone unturned. Get ready for some exciting stories including a nail-biting encounter with a grizzly bear! Further, we talk about how to select the right balance between comfort and durability when choosing your gear and the importance of researching different brands. We wrap up the episode with a thoughtful discussion on handling podcast guests and the importance of being a responsible and respectful host. We share insights into how to evaluate the authenticity of a guest, their expertise, and how to handle tricky questions. This episode is a treasure trove of information, filled with myths, tips, and advice on everything backpacking. Whether you're a seasoned hiker or a newbie looking to venture into the great outdoors, this episode is sure to equip you with the knowledge and inspiration you need. Episode Chapters - Backpacking and Blisters (0:00:05) - Podcast Origins and Guest Selection Carl and Derek started a podcast to entertain, meeting many in the outdoor community after a backpacking trip to Glacier National Park. (0:10:47) - Gear and Trip Planning Tips Carl discusses ultra-light backpacking, how much weight children can carry, and his passion for trail running and backpacking trips. (0:21:23) - Choosing Gear for Outdoor Activities Finding the right balance between comfort and durability when selecting a backpacking pad, researching brands, and Carl's story of chasing a grizzly bear away from his campsite. (0:32:07) - Gear and Food for Backpacking Trips Essential gear for successful backpacking trips, including sleeping bags, tents, stoves, water filters, and food, are discussed, emphasizing budget and quality balance. (0:39:30) - Hiking Myths, Tips, and Gear We provide tips on backpacking, from rustling in the bushes to packing the right gear and food. (0:51:16) - Outdoor Enthusiasts & Handling Podcast Guests Researching sources, engaging in conversations, and respecting the platform are key when backpacking. (0:59:52) - Hiking, Basketball, and Adventure Goals Carl and his friends discussed hiking, basketball, backpacking, running shoes, gear, myths, and tips. (1:07:41) - Planning a Marathon and Traveling Setting goals for health, types of shoes and marathons, benefits of backpacking, and Carl's story of getting into backpacking. (1:11:27) - Discussion on Podcasting and Accountability Carl's journey, staying accountable, trail running, backpacking gear, myths and tips, researching sources, basketball, setting goals, and shoes for backpacking are discussed. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/529

Nov 17, 20231h 12m

S9 Ep 528WFS 528 - Yakoda Supply Products with Jason Faerman and Justin Fuller - Fly Tying, Outdoor Gear, Colorado

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/528 Presented By: Bearvault, Smitty's Fly Box, Yellowstone Teton Territory Jason Faerman and Justin Fuller of Yakoda Supply return today on the podcast to bring us up to speed on the exciting developments in their Colorado-based company. Delve into their commitment to supporting local craftsmanship and their strategic decision to keep all their products American-made. We'll also learn about some of their amazing products, including the Yakoda Gear Transport and Convertible Utility Pack. Let's join Jason and Justin for a conversation filled with insights into the world of fly fishing and the principles that drive Yakoda Supply's success. Episode Chapters with Jason Faerman and Justin Fuller on Yakoda Supply Products 02:00 - It's been two and a half years since our last catch-up with Jason and Justin, but today, they're back to fill us in on all the exciting developments at Yakoda Supply. 03:44 - Justin hails from Texas and has a background in graphic design. He initially collaborated with a friend who owned a fly shop in Boulder, Colorado. It was during a trip in 2017 that he crossed paths with Jason. 04:50 - Jason was originally from New York and made Colorado his home in 1996. His professional background spans operations and creativity, and he spent a significant part of his career as a chef. Yakoda Supply Products 07:10 - The Yakoda Gear Transport was one of their first products and is now in its third iteration. 11:30 - We discussed their commitment to keeping all their products made in the USA, which has proven to be a strategic advantage, especially during challenges like the COVID-19 pandemic. 17:05 - Jason and Justin shared their experience of opening their shop. Their first year of running a retail shop has been filled with surprises and positive encounters as they meet various individuals walking through their doors. 25:00 - When Justin and Jason started Yakoda, having a line of flies wasn't part of their original plan. It all started when they listed a Hot Wire CDC pattern on their website, which sold out in less than a day, surprising them. 28:00 - They've established a strong partnership with MFC, who now ties their flies. Currently, they have nearly 30 patterns in their lineup, and Justin and Jason said they don't foresee adding many more. 31:57 - Initially, they offered small fly tins on a quarterly basis, but now subscribers receive a larger fly box, known as the Slim Tin, capable of holding around 100 flies. 33:30 - They also launched monthly products, available in three-pack and six-pack options. These monthly deliveries consist exclusively of flies from the Yakoda lineup, carefully selected for the season or even the month. 34:20 - Yakoda offers subscribers not only the flies and corresponding content but also an ongoing discount code for year-round website purchases. Additionally, members can access exclusive Yakoda Fly Club products not accessible to the general public. 35:40 - One of Yakoda's standout and well-received products is their Convertible Utility Pack. 45:22 - We delved into the fishing scene in Colorado, particularly in the Boulder Creek drainage area. They primarily target wild rainbows and wild browns. 52:00 - In our conversation, we delved into the latest addition to Yakoda's lineup: the nippers. 57:00 - Jason and Justine take pride in their commitment to conservation efforts, particularly through their support of 1% for the Planet. They're also founding partners of Protect Our Rivers. Additionally, Yakoda collaborates with Indifly to protect fisheries in indigenous communities and backs Backcountry Hunters and Anglers to advocate for public land access. 59:37 - Jason and Justin love listening to music by Jerry Garcia, Waylon Jennings, and War on Drugs. 1:01:26 - According to Justin, Jason is a true-crime podcast enthusiast, often exchanging podcast links with Justin's wife. Recently, Jason has listened to Spooked and Lost Hills. 1:02:31 - Jason added that they also listen to business podcasts like Wisdom from the Top. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/528

Nov 15, 20231h 9m

S9 Ep 527WFS 527 - Heroes Mending on the Fly with Gervais Jeffrey - Project Healing Waters Canada, PTSD, Veterans

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/527 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Growing up in a small town in Quebec, Gervais was introduced to the captivating sport of fly fishing by his father. The joy and serenity he found in the gentle art of angling led him to become deeply involved in the fly fishing community, even playing a key role in establishing Heroes Mending on the Fly in 2019. This episode takes you through his journey, from his first trout caught on a fly, to his work with Project Healing Waters Canada, and the formation of Heroes Mending on the Fly. Fly fishing, he found, has a remarkable ability to heal. We'll share the transformative story of an isolated veteran struggling with PTSD, who found solace and new purpose in the gentle sport of fly fishing. With Heroes Mending on the Fly, we've seen first-hand how fly fishing can reconnect individuals to the outdoors, often bringing their families along for the adventure. Gervais guides us through the process of getting started with the program and discusses the important role of our provincial coordinators. Finally, we'll share some exciting tales from our fishing outings and discuss the impact of donations to our sport. He takes you back to his father's fly fishing trips in Quebec and shares his preference for fishing equipment. We'll also get into the specifics of the brands he's used, including LG Fly Rods and Vision's Waiters, and how spending time at the Montmorency River in Quebec City helped him regain sanity. Prepare to be immersed in the world of fly fishing and discover its therapeutic benefits, especially for veterans dealing with PTSD. Episode Chapters - Heroes Mending on the Fly (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing Heroes and Origins Gervais learned fly fishing from his father and later co-founded Heroes Mending on the Fly, discussing the importance of fly fishing in the US and Canada. (0:09:49) - Fly Fishing for Veterans With PTSD Gervais helps people reconnect with nature through fly fishing and family involvement and explains how to get started with the program. (0:23:05) - Time Material, Donating, and Fishing Outings Partnerships, donations, family trips, and wildlife encounters are discussed to make an impact with fly fishing equipment. (0:30:41) - Fishing in Quebec Gervais shares his experience of fly fishing in Quebec, taking Canadian veterans on trips, and exploring Nature's Lactinage Lake and waterways. (0:44:09) - Fishing Equipment Recommendations and Personal Journey Gervais discusses his preference for chest waiters, LG Fly Rods, Escape Anglers, Vision's Fly Rods, and the Montmorency River, as well as the impact of donations and raffle trips organized by the Larch Hills Fly Fishing Club. (0:47:45) - Fishing in Quebec City and Surrounding Areas Gervais started a fly fishing program for veterans in Quebec City, using LG Fly Rods, Escape Anglers, and Vision's Fly. (0:58:41) - Heroes Mending on the Fly Canada Gervais shares how fly fishing has become a source of healing and connection for veterans, partnering with businesses to connect to nature. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/527

Nov 13, 20231h 0m

S9 Ep 526WFS 526 - Middle Fork of Salmon River with Colin Hughes and Nick Torres - Hughes River Expeditions, Lamson Fly Fishing, Giveaway

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/526 Join the Giveaway: https://wetflyswing.com/giveaway Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors As we set off on our raft, the pristine waters of the Middle Fork of the Salmon River gurgled beneath us, marking the beginning of an unforgettable adventure. With Colin Hughes of Hughes River Expeditions and Nick Torres of Lamson Fly Fishing, our journey through an ecosystem teeming with West Slope Cutthroat was nothing short of a dream come true. Colin, an old hand at navigating this extraordinary river, paints us a vivid picture of the river's descent of 3000 feet over 100 miles, enriching us with tales of his experiences - from casting lines for bull trout to savoring the purest water drawn right from the riverbed. Securing a permit to float down this magnificent river poses a stiff challenge, but Hughes River Expeditions, a family-run business with a rich 50-year history, ensures smooth sailing. The company's all-inclusive trips are a game changer - they've mastered the art of providing an immersive outdoor experience, complete with gourmet food, a well-stocked bar, and a chance to relax in soothing hot springs. We also chat about hunting opportunities and the wildlife you might rub shoulders with on your journey. Our expedition concludes with an exploration of the Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho, home to the Middle Fork and Main Salmon Rivers. Witness how the running season affects the rivers, and learn about the native fish species that dwell in these waters. But hold on, the adventure isn't over yet! We're giving away two spots on a Middle Fork Salmon River trip to a couple of lucky listeners. As we wrap up this exhilarating episode, we share our favorite melodies and podcasts for road trips, providing the perfect soundtrack to your own river adventure. So, gear up, tune in, and let the river lead the way. Episode Chapters - Middle Fork of Salmon River (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing Middle Fork Salmon River The Middle Fork of the Salmon River offers a lifetime experience of fishing for West Slope Cutthroat, with difficulty obtaining a permit and big fish to catch. (0:13:20) - Fishing and Boating on Middle Fork Exploring the Middle Fork of the Salmon River, we discuss oar-powered boats, fishing for bull trout, and the potential of catching 12-17-inch fish. (0:26:46) - Unplugging and History of Hatch Expeditions Hatch River Expeditions is a family-run business offering DIY trips for 50 years, now run by the speaker and his wife. (0:35:28) - An All-Inclusive Outdoor Adventure Hatch River Expeditions offers all-inclusive trips with mathematical systems, natural clocks, hot springs, cast and blast, and wildlife. (0:43:32) - Whitewater Rivers and Wilderness Exploration We explore Idaho's rivers for fishing, investigate native steelhead and Chinook salmon, and discuss the unique experience of Hatch River Expeditions. (0:48:11) - Launch Fly Shop Giveaway Shout Outs Fly Shop Friday giveaway hosted by Hughes River Outfitters, Three Rivers Ranch, Idaho Angler, Boise Anglers, and Josh Ritter's song "Idaho" discussed. (0:51:05) - Podcasts, Music, and University of Idaho We discussed the University of Idaho, Josh Ritter, "Tubs at the Club", Grateful Dead, Dave Matthews, and Hughes River Outfitters giveaway. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/526

Nov 10, 202353 min

S9 Ep 525WFS 525 – Custom Landing Net Build Out with Chris Loh – Stonefly Nets, Jiu-jitsu, Iron Door Saloon

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/525 Presented By: Stonefly Nets Today, we chat with Chris Loh, the lucky winner of our Stonefly Custom Landing Net Build Out Giveaway. Chris walks us through the process of crafting his dream net with Ethan. We also delve into his journey from starting fly fishing with the guidance of Mel Krieger to his impressive 17-year tenure in jiu-jitsu. Episode Chapters with Chris Loh on Custom Landing Net Build Out 01:52 – Chris began fly fishing when his uncle hired his friend Mel Krieger to teach Chris and his twin brother how to cast on their 12th birthday. 3:00 – After college, Chris took a break from fishing to focus on being part of the workforce. It wasn't until a few years ago, just before the pandemic began, that his friend rekindled his interest in fly fishing. 05:50 – We talked about Chris's experience as the lucky winner of the Stonefly Nets giveaway event. 07:20 – Chris shares the process of building a net with Ethan. He said selecting the right wood was the most challenging aspect. They opted for a madrone burl for the handle, accentuated with a strip of wenge to symbolize a black belt. 11:51 – Chris has been practicing jiu-jitsu for almost 17 years now. 22:36 – Chris listens to The Strenuous Life Podcast, Fight Life, and Joe Rogan. He also shared that one of the first episodes he listened to on the Wet Fly Swing podcast featured Steve Potter. 34:50 – Chris owns California's oldest saloon, the Iron Door Saloon. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/525

Nov 8, 202341 min

S9 Ep 524WFS 524 - White River Fly Fishing with Chad Johnson - Big Brown Trout, Big Johnson, Streamer Fishing

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/524 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors What a treat we have in store for you in our latest episode! Drawing from the deep pool of Southern hospitality, we welcome Chad Johnson from CJ's White River Outfitters, a team that has revolutionized fly fishing for big brown trout over the past decade. We hear first-hand about his thrilling journey to become a recognized figure in the fly fishing world, and the camaraderie that made it all possible. We follow the ripples of our conversation into the unique trout fishing culture of Chad's region, where the exhilarating bite of the brown trout is truly something to behold. We unpack the mysteries behind their bite intensity post-spawn, seasonal size variations, and even the best streamers for snagging larger fish. Chad also lifts the lid on some of the most effective fly designs, like Kelly Gallup's 'Big Johnson' and his own brainchildren. As we cast our nets even wider, we discuss practical fishing strategies and the importance of observing the water flow. We share the importance of keeping a sharp eye out for potential record-breaking catches. Chad talks about the advantages of seeking the guidance of an experienced hand when you are new to the game. We round off by sharing the nuances of color and technique in streamer fishing, and how constructive feedback can drastically enhance your success rate. So, gear up for an episode brimming with insights and captivating tales for every fishing enthusiast out there! Episode Chapters with Chad Johnson on White River Fly Fishing (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing's Impact on White River Chad's Southern hospitality, CJ's White River Outfitters team, and the rise of fly fishing for big brown trout are discussed. (0:10:51) - Fishing for Big Brown Trout Variations Brown trout spawn, caddis hatches, streamers for larger fish, and why big fish don't go after solvers or midges in summer. (0:18:40) - Streamer Fishing Tactics and Fly Design Brown trout display different behaviors post-spawn, including aggression and feeding bites, which are important to recognize when fishing in the White River with varying fly sizes. (0:28:37) - Fly Fishing Chad's 'Sluggo' and 'Big Johnson' designs, deer hair heads, 'T-bone' prey, and 'kill shots' discussed for streamer fly fishing. (0:45:21) - Fishing Strategies and Water Flow Importance Boating for trout requires raking the bank, casting at an angle, and paying attention to water flow, with a guide recommended for new anglers. (1:00:18) - Color and Technique in Streamer Fishing Yellow is effective for early season spawn, while white and ginger can be used to target rainbows and suckers; depth, movement, and hunter's mentality are key for success. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/524

Nov 6, 20231h 13m

S9 Ep 523WFS 523 - DIY Fly Fishing Trips with Trent Denhof and Janelle Petzak - The Bum Diary, Argentina, New Zealand

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/523 Presented by: Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Trent Denhof and Janelle Petzak of The Bum Diary Show are here to talk about their amazing DIY fly fishing trips, particularly in Argentina and New Zealand. They'll share their incredible experiences and offer valuable tips for listeners who aspire to plan their unforgettable fishing adventures. Episode Chapters with Trent and Janelle on The Bum Diary Podcast 1:38 - Janelle shares how The Bum Diary Podcast came to be. It all started in the back of an Explorer documenting their DIY travels. They are now transitioning from podcast to YouTube at The Bum Diary Show. 5:25 - Trent shares how they DIY their fly fishing trips overseas. He also tells us about their previous trips to Argentina and New Zealand. 10:30 - Trent had a heart attack in college. After that, he went back to Michigan where he was born and raised to take over their farm until he sold it. That's also the time when he met Janelle. 13:48 - They talk about their frameless boat from Outcast Sporting Gear and that time when it was stolen in Argentina. We had Chris Callanan of Outcast on the podcast in episode 466. 17:01 - They tell us what they love about the way they've been doing things over the last few years. You can watch their exciting adventures on their YouTube channel at The Bum Diary Show. 19:00 - We dig into each of their first memory of fly fishing. 24:30 - Trent shares the first time they went on a fly-fishing trip to New Zealand for eight weeks. 25:50 - They talk about how they decide on their next destination. 27:78 - They work in Bullwinkle's bar in Yellowstone from May to October. They go overseas from November to December, then the Florida Keys until April. 28:20 - Janelle tells about their interesting living setup in the Florida Keys. 29:38 - They give tips for anyone who wants to try a DIY fly fishing trip. 30:55 - They tell us about their setup when they travel using their Ford Explorer. Trent also gives a big tip on traveling and frugality. 34:40 - They use fly rods from Redington, particularly a 5wt. Trent also shares a tip on gear when going on a fly fishing trip. He commends Echo and Redington for their superb customer service. 37:00 Trent gives a shout-out to Justin Spence of Big Sky Anglers who saved their Striker raft in Argentina. He considers him as his mentor. We had Justin on the podcast in episode 227. 38:00 - I give a shout-out to Jerry French whom we also had on the show in episode 139. 38:28 - He shares the biggest thing that made an impact in his life which led him to live the way he currently does with Janelle. 41:54 - Looking ahead, they hope to visit Alaska to catch a Dolly Varden. He also shares their plans to settle down outside the country. 43:50 - I ask him about the challenges they face in their line of work. 44:40 - I give a shout-out to one of our avid listeners who are interested in DIY fly-fishing trips. Trent also shares a funny story about his dry bag and his being always overprepared on trips. 49:33 - He talks a bit about the bear attacks in Yellowstone. 55:08 - Trent's go-to music is underground hip-hop and old country. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/523

Nov 3, 202357 min

S9 Ep 522WFS 522 – AFFTA Confluence 2023 with Lucas Bissett – IFTD, Orvis-Endorsed Guide, Conservation

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/522 Presented By: NR Adventures, Chota Outdoor Gear, Jackson Hole Fly Company Lucas Bissett joins us today to discuss the AFFTA Confluence 2023 event, providing an exciting insight into the changes it brings this year. Among the highlights is the introduction of real-time census data providing a more accurate snapshot of the industry's growth. We also explore Lucas's personal journey in fly fishing. Did we mention that he was an Orvis-Endorsed Guide in 2017? If you're aspiring to be a fishing guide, get tips from the expert himself on what it takes to excel in the field. Episode Chapters with Lucas Bissett on AFFTA Confluence 2023 2:05 – Lucas discovered fly fishing later in life when his family relocated to Missouri around age 10. At the age of 12, he received a basic fly fishing kit from his grandmother and started catching panfish and bass with it. 02:55 – Following a break during his college years, Lucas reignited his love for fishing at the age of 24 when he successfully landed his first redfish on a fly. He eventually pursued a career as a guide, spending 11 years guiding people red fishing from the back of a skiff. 04:30 – Lucas was an Orvis-endorsed guide for eight years and even got the title of Orvis-endorsed guide for 2017. 07:55 – We discuss the importance of positive reviews as a guide, and Lucas shares insights on navigating and addressing less favorable feedback. American Fly Fishing Trade Association 12:00 – AFFTA is the sole trade association in fly fishing. Their main goal is to try to help guide the sustainable growth of the fly fishing industry. 12:55 – For Lucas, it's crucial that individuals feel their trade association is actively advocating for their interests. This involves organizing events that unite industry players in a business-oriented setting. 13:30 – They've done the International Fly Tackle Dealer Show in the past, but that has changed to Confluence this year. The Confluence is a very similar show, but they have made pretty dramatic changes, according to Lucas. 14:10 – Lucas shares that AFFTA has partnered with TrackFly, a data collection company, to obtain more precise and real-time census data. This system integrates with retailers' Point of Sale (POS) systems and then gathers and compiles the information, which AFFTA will use to generate a biannual report. 31:40 – Lucas provides insights into his perspective on the current state of the fly fishing industry. 39:36 – Lucas shares information about the AFFTA Fisheries Fund. 45:34 – Lucas enjoys fishing and tries to do it whenever he can. His job at AFFTA lets him travel across the country, so he takes the opportunity to fish in different places. 47:00 – Lucas offers advice for those interested in becoming fishing guides and shares what it takes to pursue a career in guiding. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/522

Nov 1, 202357 min

S9 Ep 521WFS 521 - Fly Fishing Largemouth Bass with Pat Ehlers - Jack Dennis, Scientific Anglers, Fly Casting

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/521 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Smitty's Fly Box, Yellowstone Teton Territory In today's episode, owner of Fly Fishers Shop and Scientific Angler Ambassador Pat Ehlers takes us to fly fishing largemouth bass. Pat's journey into the realm of fly fishing is a tale that began with childhood wonder and evolved into a lifelong passion. With a boatload of expertise and a trusty VEXUS, he takes us on a bass-fishing adventure that's as thrilling as it is educational. Plus, he introduces us to his custom-crafted patterns like the Vampire Leech and Grim Reaper. Don't miss out on this episode packed with bass-catching wisdom from a true master of the craft! Episode Chapters with Pat Ehlers on Fly Fishing Largemouth Bass 02:10 - Pat's journey into fly fishing began as a young kid watching the first American Sportsman show on ABC with Curt Gowdy and Jack Dennis. He later developed a special mentorship with Jack Dennis and opportunities to share his knowledge at national fly fishing shows. 04:00 - Pat started the Fly Fishers Fly Shop in 1988. 08:22 - We talked about the evolution of fishing and fishing equipment over the years. Pat's commitment to finding high-end gear to better serve his customers eventually led him to explore saltwater fishing. 09:20 - Pat's introduction to Rick Murphy came through a connection with Flip Pallot. This meeting proved instrumental in expanding his knowledge of saltwater fishing. Today, Rick Murphy is the host of Sportsman's Adventures. 15:07 - Pat provides a comprehensive overview of the diverse fishing opportunities in their area. The region also boasts some of the best bass lakes within a 20-minute drive. Pat is well-equipped for these expeditions, thanks to his partnership with VEXUS Boats and Mercury Marine's Pro team. Finding Fish 19:17 - When it comes to targeting largemouth bass, having access to a boat is crucial, as the fish tend to be in deeper waters. Pat owns a 21-foot VEXUS boat, which he finds to be the perfect fit for pursuing largemouth bass in their part of the world. 22:08 - Pat uses reliable electronics for locating fish, like Minn Kota Humminbird. However, he acknowledges that not everyone may have access to such high-tech equipment, and a good lake map can be incredibly useful in finding fish. 24:49 - Pat mentions his collaboration with Scientific Anglers to develop specialized lines, including the Sonar Titan Sink Tip Mini, a five-foot mini sink tip that has proven popular among anglers. 34:00 - Pat says his Vampire Leech is a good pattern to use when dealing with cold water conditions. Pat also mentions the Grim Reaper pattern, inspired by the swim jigs. 45:00 - Pat says it's an excellent time for fly fishing in early September, with the water temperatures still warm and the bass active. 48:00 - Pat also shares an interesting technique involving the popper dropper. 55:00 - Pat describes two of his crayfish fly patterns, the Crazi Craw and the Long Strip Crayfish. 56:00 - Pat emphasizes that the choice of rod size depends on the type of flies being used and the size of the fish one anticipates encountering. 1:01:24 - Pat shares a casting technique he developed, resembling an underhand cast, which allows for accurate placement of the fly even in challenging locations. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/521

Oct 30, 20231h 13m

S9 Ep 520WFS 520 - Skwala Fishing with Kevin Sloan - Merino Wool, Fourchette, Gore-Tex

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/520 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Hey there, fellow anglers! We had the pleasure of chatting with Kevin Sloan, the mastermind behind Skwala Fishing, and we can't wait to tell you all about it. In this episode, we delved into the technology and materials used in their amazing products, from their toasty thermo hoody to their cozy puff jackets and durable waders. Kevin had so much insight to share about his company and we know you'll love hearing all about it. So sit back, relax, and get ready to learn about the amazing world of Skwala Fishing! Episode Chapters with Kevin Sloan on Skwala Fishing 1:41 - Kevin shares the story of how he got into fly fishing. His interest in the sport started when he was very young. Then his dad took him to a Trout Unlimited Barbecue when he was just 10 years old where a guy doing a casting demonstration spent an hour with him to teach him. 4:01 - Most of their customers in Skwala Fishing are advanced fly fishers. 4:30 - He takes us back to how he got into the industry. He started guiding when he was 19 then at 25, he worked at Orvis in product development. That's where he got his start and foundation in the fly fishing space. Then he got involved in Sitka and led that business from day one to nearly a decade. 7:49 - We dig into their product design and development process at Skwala. He mentions their Carbon Jacket that is fully waterproof and has a four-way stretch shell that will keep you dry but still allow you to comfortably with it. 11:38 - We talk about their waders. The major factors that they considered while developing their waders were mobility and breathability. 12:42 - He explains what a fourchette is. 14:30 - He gives valuable tips on how to take good care of your waders to make them last for years. 19:45 - He tells us about merino wool which is one of the materials used for designing their Thermo 150 Hoody. Merino wool gives a warm fuzzy feeling even when it's wet. 24:50 - He gives recommendations on what products to choose from their line if you're going fishing during cold months. If you're going steelhead fishing in December, he highly recommends their RS collection. 27:54 - We talk about the features of one of their favorite pieces, the Fusion 3/2 Puffy which is water-resistant and breathable. 31:26 - They have a collection that has just been released this year. 33:10 - For waders to be durable, they have to be puncture-resistant and tear-resistant. He tells more on how to test your waders at home to see if there are tears on them. 36:12 - He talks about their guarantee and warranty. 37:50 - We dig into Gore-Tex and similar materials that they use in their products for waterproofing and breathability. 39:53 - He loves all kinds of fishing, especially swinging for steelheads. 40:40 - For saltwater fishing, he recommends their Sol collection. 41:37 - I ask about bamboo fabrics. 42:53 - Looking ahead, they also plan to release their line of boots. 45:14 - He takes us back to that time when he started building Skwala Fishing and shares how he came up with the name and branding. 48:34 - We do a rapid-fire round. He likes listening to both music and podcasts when on the road, particularly Dave Matthews Band Radio and The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway. 49:50 - His go-to setup for trout is a 691 Sage X, 9' 6wt with a fighting butt on it. 50:20 - He tells us the trips on his bucket list. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/520

Oct 27, 202355 min

S9 Ep 519WFS 519 – Bajio Sunglasses with Al Perkinson – Costa, Yvon Chouinard , Jimmy Kimmel

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/519 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Mavrk Fly Fishing Today, it's all about eyewear and fishing with none other than the genius behind Bajio Sunglasses, Al Perkinson. Ever wondered what "Bajio" means and how it's connected to your fishing adventures? Buckle up as we journey through Al's life story, from discovering fly fishing in his 40s to making waves in the industry. And stick around for some tales involving Yvon Chouinard, Oliver White, and Jimmy Kimmel. Plus, don't miss out on the game-changing Bajio Trails app that's set to revolutionize DIY fishing for anglers everywhere. Episode Chapters with Al Perkinson on Bajio Sunglasses 02:00 – Bajio refers to the shallow regions near land, whether it's the saltwater marshes in Charleston, the bayous in New Orleans and Louisiana, or the saltwater flats of the Bahamas. 05:35 – Al mentioned that he didn't come to fly fishing until later in life, possibly in his 40s, even though he had been fishing since he was a kid. It was after watching Flip Pallot's show, Walker's Cay Chronicles, that he felt a deep connection to the sport. 11:40 – We delved into Al's connection to Costa and his journey toward establishing his own company. 18:16 – Al emphasized the importance of starting with the right lens for optimal fishing performance. During their time at Costa, they created the 580 Lens, the first color-enhancing lens designed to block yellow light. 19:53 – When Al began Bajio, he recognized that there was considerable untapped potential to elevate eyewear, and they identified the most significant opportunity lay in effectively blocking blue light. 22:12 – Al recommends the Silver Mirror for a typical Montana trout trip. Bajio Sunglasses 27:00 – Al and Oliver White have been friends for a long time. In fact, Oliver invited Al to the Abaco Lodge the very first week it opened. They've gone on many trips together. Now, Oliver is working at the South Fork Lodge of the Snake River, and he's teamed up with Jimmy Kimmel. 29:52 – We discuss conservation and the efforts being made at Bajio. Al emphasizes his focus on the next generation of anglers. 36:40 – Al introduces us to the Bajio Trails, an interactive app they're launching for DIY fishing. 50:00 – Al mentioned that another product they're putting a strong emphasis on is their line of hats. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/519

Oct 25, 20231h 1m

S9 Ep 518WFS 518 - Mayfly Outdoors with Jeff Wagner - Airflo, Ross Reels, Able Reels

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/518 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Angler's Coffee, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Growing up in Sydney, Nebraska, the home of Cabela's, Jeff's passion for fly fishing was ignited at a young age. This episode takes you on an adventure with Jeff as he reminisces about his early fishing experiences, exploring the diverse fishing opportunities Nebraska offers, from trout streams to warm water fishing. As we journey through his early life, we also follow his career path through some of the most iconic brands in the outdoor industry, from his time with Cabela's, Winston Flyrods, and VF corp, to his current role as the President and CEO of Mayfly Outdoors, encompassing major players in the fly fishing industry. Our conversation doesn't stop at the surface level; we dive deep into the heart of the outdoor industry itself. We discuss the ever-important topic of sustainability in the fly fishing industry, the concept of B Corp, and the triple bottom line of people, profit, and planet. Jeff shares about Ross Reels' investment in a new anodizing facility in Montrose, Colorado, a move designed to reduce environmental impact while still maintaining a profitable organization. The conversation widens as we dissect the future of the industry, with a focus on upcoming collaborations from Ross Reels and Abel, all with an emphasis on conservation. Finally, we touch on practical fly fishing tips, such as the nuances of casting in the wind and the importance of practice. We celebrate the invaluable advice of casting instructors like Tim Ragef, Steve, Bruce Richards, Tom White, and Dusty Sprague. We conclude with an examination of the adaptability of the team at Ross Reels to stay ahead of industry innovations. Join us as we journey through the world of fly fishing, revealing its past, present, and future. Whether you're an avid angler or have never cast a line, this episode has something for everyone. Episode Chapters with Jeff Wagner on Mayfly Outdoors (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Mayfly Outdoors Growing up in Sydney, Nebraska, I learned to fly fish in cold streams for trout, bass, bluegill, carp, and pike. (0:08:38) - Iconic Outdoor Brands Ross' 50th anniversary is discussed, from its 1973 California inception to its current Colorado form. (0:21:18) - B Corp and Long-Term Success Ross Reels' success is discussed, exploring B Corp certification, triple bottom line, sustainability, ethics, and new anodizing facility. (0:25:27) - Ross Reels and Mayfly Outdoors Ross Reels' sustainability, longevity, innovations, other fly fishing companies, Mayfly Outdoors' acquisition of Air Flow Fly Lines, investments in people, place, and technology, and the triple bottom line of people, profit, and planet are discussed. (0:38:25) - Branding and Growth of Outdoor Industry Prana, North Face, Patagonia, Sims, Dynaking, and carp fishing discussed to maintain brand identity and explore fishing market opportunities. (0:44:10) - Carp Fishing in Warm Water Resources Carp fishing's potential benefits, fly fishing's responsibility, multi-species angling history, and Ross Reels' investment are discussed. (0:50:34) - Fly Fishing Tips and Conversations Casting nuances, instructor advice, and carp fishing's benefits to cold water fisheries are discussed. (1:00:00) - Fall Fly Fishing Launches and Collaborations Ross Reels and Able collaborate to promote conservation, sustainability, and longevity, while staying true to their identity. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/518

Oct 23, 20231h 2m

S9 Ep 517WFS 517 - Potomac Riverkeeper Network with Mark Frondorf - Shenandoah Valley, Clean Water Act

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/517 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Discover the intricate connections between droughts, fishing, and the colors of fall as we journey through the captivating Shenandoah Valley with our guest, Mark Frondorf, the Shenandoah River Keeper. With fascinating anecdotes and insightful discussions, we promise to open your eyes to the impacts of climate change on natural habitats and recreational passions like fly fishing. As part of the Potomac Riverkeeper Network, our conversation also illuminates the essential role of litigation and public engagement in safeguarding our precious waterways. We take a closer look at the rich culture and environment of the Shenandoah Valley, showcasing its north and south forks, and the importance of the Shenandoah River to the local communities. Witness the invaluable work of the Potomac River Keeper Network, acting as guardians of our water resources, and the potential of similar organizations to usher in meaningful change. In our discussion, we also highlight the vital importance of water quality monitoring in the Shenandoah Valley, including Discharge Monitoring Records (DMRs), pollution permits, and the crucial role of river patrols. In the last phase of our conversation, we take on the Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) process, and the research into harmful algal bloom studies in the Shenandoah River and Lake Anna. We'll discuss the long-term goal of establishing a budget to test for freshwater harmful algal blooms across all Virginia rivers and streams, and dive into the special karst topography of the Shenandoah Valley and its impact on water quality. The episode concludes with an engaging chat about smallmouth bass fishing, an appeal to support local riverkeeper organizations, and a call to protect our rivers for the enjoyment of future generations. Join us for a stimulating talk on fishing, river systems, and the significance of environmental advocacy. Episode Chapters with Mark Frondorf on Potomac Riverkeeper Network (0:00:05) - Drought Conditions and Fly Fishing I'm part of the Potomac River Keeper Network, discussing climate change, drought, fly fishing, and individual responsibility. (0:06:40) - Waterkeeper Organizations and Clean Water Act The Potomac River Keeper Network works to protect waterways through Clean Water Act litigation and public engagement, distinguishing between waterkeeper and friends groups, and collaborating with the Waterkeeper Alliance. (0:21:03) - Importance of Chesapeake Bay and Shenandoah River We examine the Shenandoah River, River Keeper Network, and the significance of the Shenandoah Valley to local communities. (0:34:23) - Water Quality Monitoring and Issues DMRs, pollution permits, patrolling the river for illegal pipes, cattle herds, and algal blooms are discussed for water quality in the Shenandoah Valley. (0:52:14) - River Pollution Study and Funding Virginia's rivers and streams are protected by the TMDL process and two million-dollar studies on harmful algal blooms. (0:55:56) - Riverkeeper Network's Impact and Challenges The Potomac Riverkeeper Network, karst topography of the Shenandoah Valley, Total Maximum Daily Load process, and Shenandoah River harmful algal bloom study are discussed. (1:08:11) - Mossy Creek and Smallmouth Bass Fishing Supporting local riverkeeper organizations, attending trout school in Massey Creek, and celebrating a gear giveaway winner are key to preserving the South River in the Shenandoah Valley for future generations. (1:12:27) - Fishing, River Systems, and Environmental Advocacy The Waterkeeper Alliance's history, legal work, and water quality tracking in the Shenandoah Valley are discussed. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/517

Oct 20, 20231h 22m

S9 Ep 516WFS 516 - Redeye Bass Fly Fishing with Matt Lewis - Alabama, Redeye Slam, Native Fish Coalition

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/516 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Daiichi, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Matt Lewis of Redeye Bass Fly Fishing shares his insights on redeye bass and their vital conservation efforts in the Native Fish Coalition to preserve its native population. We will also uncover the unique characteristics of redeye bass, their habitat preferences, and the exciting pursuit of the Redeye Slam. Episode Chapters with Matt Lewis on Redeye Bass 1:40 - Matt tells us how he got into fly fishing. Initially, his focus was to become a medical doctor. He spent decades doing cancer research, but his outlet has always been fishing. 3:15 - One of his friends introduced him to redeye bass fly fishing. He grew up in Alabama where the species is abundant. When his interest grew, he got frustrated that there were limited resources for that species at that time. 6:00 - That led him to write and release a book in January 2018 entitled Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters. 9:38 - We dig into the distribution of redeye and other similar species. They exist mostly in Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. 13:50 - He tells us what a fall line is. 16:00 - He talks about fishing redeye bass which he says are aggressive top-water eaters very much like brook trout. His favorite bug to use is chartreuse or yellow popper. Any kind of foam attractor like hopper patterns also works well. 18:23 - He mentions East Alabama Fly Fishing which offers guide services in Tallapoosa River for bass fishing. 19:50 - He shares some concerns about the population of redeye bass such as the moving of species to where they don't belong and habitat disturbance. These would have long-term effects on their native population. 28:00 - He briefly talks about their spawning. 29:36 - I ask him about how he got connected with Dorsal Outdoors leading them to make a film called "A Slam That Saves". The film features him and Mary Beth Meeks attempting to catch a "Redeye Slam" in one day. 38:46 - The biggest conservation group that he has worked with was the Native Fish Coalition, a national non-profit organization. He also has worked as an advisory board member for a local riverkeeper organization. 43:35 - He encourages everyone to educate themselves and others on the danger of moving fish around, and to get involved with conservation groups. 45:55 - We give a shout-out to Angler's Coffee. Matt prefers dark roast coffee with bold flavors like the Muddler's Blend from Angler's Coffee. He also gives a shout-out to his go-to fly shop which is the Deep South Outfitters. 48:32 - Aside from redeye bass, the other top species you can fish in Alabama are smallmouth bass, largemouth bass, spotted bass, and panfish among others. He's currently writing a fly fishing guidebook for Alabama. 52:36 - Matt says pursuing redeye bass fishing is growing the sport because it's the easiest entry to fly fishing. 55:06 - He shares a fun fact about the species. 56:53 - I ask about the smallmouth bass distribution. 57:30 - He likes listening to podcasts when driving. Aside from listening to our podcast, he also likes The MeatEater Podcast and The Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast wherein he was also interviewed last year. 58:48 - He gives a call to action to support the conservation of the redeye bass population. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/516

Oct 18, 20231h 1m

S9 Ep 515WFS 515 - Mossy Creek Fly Fishing with Colby Trow - Fly Fishing School, Fly Casting, Trout

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/515 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Chota Outdoor Gear In this episode, we're joined by Colby Trow, the founder of Mossy Creek Fly Fishing. Colby takes us on a journey from his early days with a cane pole to running a successful fly shop in Northern Virginia. We'll also explore the diverse fishing opportunities Mossy Creek offers, including their unique three-part casting clinic. Plus, stay tuned for a rundown of what the school we're putting together with Colby is going to be like. Show Notes with Colby Trow on Mossy Creek Fly Fishing. Hit play below! 👇🏻 01:40 - Colby's earliest fishing memory was at Wintergreen Resort with his grandfather. They used a simple cane pole, a red and white bobber, a couple of split shots, and a hook. 02:40 - When Colby was about 8 or 9 years old, he received his first fly rod as a gift, while his twin brother, Brian, got a mountain bike. At first, Brian teased Colby about it, but that all changed when he witnessed Colby successfully catching a fish. After that, even Brian got interested in fishing. 03:36 - Colby worked at a fly shop during his college years. Later on, both Colby and Brian relocated to Northern Virginia to explore a potential business venture. While researching this opportunity, they stumbled upon the chance to purchase a local fly shop in town. 06:00 - Tom Sadler is a member of the Mossy Creek team, and we were fortunate to have him as a guest on episode 98. 11:39 - We delved into the details of putting the school together, and he described what the experience would be like. 17:34 - The Rapidan River is well-known in the region. The Jackson Tailwater is one of two tailwater fisheries and is renowned as a fantastic wild trout fishery. Mossy Creek is a blue-ribbon spring creek offering nearly 4 miles of publicly accessible water. 21:35 - Colby shares insights about the significant hatches that occur in their area. 25:00 - Colby mentioned that being in a college town with James Madison University nearby, they have plenty of hotel options available. 36:00 - We get a rundown of the fish species and their sizes that you can catch in the area. 44:50 - Colby tells us about their very regimented three-part casting clinic. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/515

Oct 16, 20231h 1m

S9 Ep 514WFS 514 - Wild Ideas Worth Living with Shelby Stanger - Will to Wild, REI Co-op, Outdoor Books

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/514 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Bearvault, Trxstle, Chota Outdoor Gear Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us as we engage in a compelling conversation with our guest, Shelby Stanger, Host of the Podcast, Wild Ideas Worth Living. Shelby shares her unique journey from being an adventure columnist at 19 to creating a podcast that grabbed the attention of REI Co-op. Her passion for storytelling and engaging in in-depth interviews led to a partnership with REI Co-op, which purchased her podcast in 2020. Shelby's love for podcasting isn't just about telling stories; it's about the conversations, the learning, and the opportunity to connect with people. We also take the opportunity to share some of our own experiences in the podcasting world. Listen as we recount our own journey from being an adventure journalist, to running marketing and PR events for women, consulting with international surfing brands, and then finally launching our own podcast. We talk about the lessons we've learned from others' wild ideas, our own struggles with writing a book, and share our advice for those who are considering going all in on their own wild ideas. We take a look at the importance of self-love and care, sharing inspiring stories from the podcast, and exploring the world of stand-up paddleboarding. Our conversation goes on to explore the technicalities of podcasting, the significance of engaging listeners with sponsors, and the impact of outdoor outreach. We discuss the changing landscape of media, the power of storytelling, and even our experience with TEDx Talks. We hope you find inspiration, motivation, and perhaps even your own wild idea to pursue. Episode Chapters with Shelby Stanger on Wild Ideas Worth Living (0:00:05) - Podcasting and Partnership With REI Shelby started a podcast, which was bought by REI Co-op in 2020, to continue her passion for interviewing people and telling stories. (0:10:34) - Lessons From the Podcast I share lessons on facing fear, dealing with imposter syndrome, and staying focused while pursuing a wild idea, as well as my journey to writing my book, Will to Wild. (0:22:59) - Stories of Adventure and Inspiration Self-love, care, strong choices, wild ideas, stories from 91-year-old psychologist, 70-something with heart transplant, 80-something fisherman, and learning from those who have gone before. (0:32:36) - Stand-Up Paddleboarding Adventures and Stories From journalist to brand promoter, exploring courage, stand-up paddle boarding in Indonesia and Peru, and getting a paddleboard. (0:36:49) - Podcasting, Research, and Sponsorship Strategy We discuss researching and preparing for conversations, podcasting skills, engaging listeners with sponsors, pitching sponsorships, and providing value. (0:49:36) - Outdoor Outreach and Podcasting Awards We discuss podcasting, kids' outdoor activities, and award-winning podcasts. (0:54:43) - Telling the Truth and TEDx Talks TEDx experience, storytelling, media landscape, humor, speaker coaching, and slides discussed. (0:59:19) - The Power of Adventure and Awe Awe, nature, podcasting, storytelling, and media are discussed to explore how they can bring mindfulness and connection. (1:07:33) - Exploring Outdoor Adventure and Podcast Growth We discuss alcohol, outdoor brands, surfing, and podcast growth, emphasizing nature without substances. (1:13:23) - Promoting Your Podcast With Apple Podcasts Networking, Apple Podcasts, newsletters, and continuing the conversation are key to promoting a podcast. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/514

Oct 13, 20231h 15m

S9 Ep 513WFS 513 - The Life and Works of Ernest Hemingway with Mark Cirino - One True Pod, One True Sentence, Mets

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/513 Presented by: Smitty's Fly Box, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Mark Cirino, co-host of the One True Podcast, takes us on an enthralling exploration of the life and works of one of literature's most influential figures, Ernest Hemingway. In our interview, we took a deep dive into Hemingway's experiences, his writing process, and the enduring legacy of his works. Whether you're a devoted Hemingway fan or a literary enthusiast, this episode promises to be a captivating exploration. Join us as we unravel the complexities of Hemingway's life and appreciate the timeless power of his writing. The Life and Works of Ernest Hemingway Show Notes with Mark Cirino 2:13 - Mark grew up in a household where his parents were readers. Her mother was a writer and his father was a journalist. This is also where he talks about how he stumbled upon Ernest Hemingway's works. 3:48 - Mark talks about what the war meant to Hemingway. 5:49 - He describes Hemingway's writing style and the iceberg theory. Ernest's style may have come from his journalism background and his subject matter. The men of action that he writes about are involved in crises or dangerous situations. 11:30 - We dig into Hemingway's early life when his love for the outdoors started, particularly fishing. He mentions the places that Ernest wrote about such as Michigan where he wrote Indian Camp and The Doctor and the Doctor's Wife among others. 13:32 - He differentiates the real Ernest from the myth of him. 18:58 - He had Ken Burns and Lynn Novick on the One True Podcast to talk about their PBS documentary on Hemingway. Ken Burns and Lynn Novick also co-wrote the introduction in their book called One True Sentence: Writers & Readers on Hemingway's Art. 20:52 - In Hemingway's memoir called A Moveable Feast, he talks about how to deal with writer's block by starting with one true sentence and going on from there. 22:20 - He talks about fishing in relation to Hemingway's works. 24:05 - I mentioned John Gierach, author of several fly-fishing books, whom we had in the podcast in episodes 047 and 434. 25:36 - In Hemingway's journey as a fisherman, he bought a fishing boat in 1934 which he called Pilar. Mark has an episode in his podcast with Paul Hendrickson where they talked about the latter's book called Hemingway's Boat: Everything He Loved in Life, and Lost. 26:45 - Hemingway's works inspire Mark to keep his curiosity and continuously produce interesting topics for his podcast. 28:27 - We dig into the predator-prey concept in fishing and hunting in Hemingway's book called Islands in the Stream. 33:22 - His current favorite Hemingway work is A Farewell to Arms. He also talks about The Old Man and The Sea which he says is the perfect Hemingway theme of "winner take nothing". 36:36 - We talk about the end of Hemingway's life at the age of 61 in Ketchum, Idaho. His wife Mary said that he accidentally killed himself while cleaning his shotgun. 40:56 - Mark talks about Pauline Pfeiffer, Ernest Hemingway's second wife. He was married four times. He tackles more about her in his episode with Ruth Hawkins. 42:50 - I ask him about Ernest and Spanish bullfighting which he wrote about in his books entitled Death in the Afternoon and The Sun Also Rises. 44:46 - He shares some highlights from The Sun Also Rises. 49:13 - For those who haven't read any of Hemingway's works, he recommends starting with The Old Man and the Sea and one of his short stories called Big Two-Hearted River. 53:16 - He asks which I think is more conducive for soldiers returning home from the war between deep fishing and fly fishing. 54:12 - We dig into Hemingway's evolution of writing. From 1925 to 1929, he wrote four books which made him a literary superstar. His comeback in 1940 was successful because of his book entitled For Whom the Bell Tolls. 56:31 - He describes Hemingway as a pessimist as evident in an excerpt from his book In Death in the Afternoon, in which he says "All stories end in death, and he is no true-story teller who would keep that from you." 58:00 - He talks about that time in 1954 when Hemingway and his wife Mary survived two plane crashes in Africa, and his failed attempts before his suicide in 1961. 1:02:47 - He started the One True Podcast when he noticed that there were no podcasts focused on Ernest Hemingway. The Hemingway Society sponsors the podcast. 1:04:47 - He likes listening to other podcasts such as the Rico Brogna Podcast with Evan Roberts who is a crazy Met fan. We talk more about the Mets. 1:09:45 - We end the interview with his one true sentence. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/513

Oct 11, 20231h 13m

S9 Ep 512WFS 512 - Fly Fishing for Carp with Bill Marts - Schmoots Clooper, John Gierach, Banks Lake

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/512 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Smitty's Fly Box, Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company Today we go fly fishing for carp with none other than Bill Marts. We explore Bill's invaluable tips on targeting carp in Banks Lake and discover the story behind the Schmoots Clooper Invitational. Plus, don't miss the stories behind Bill's iconic fly patterns and the tattoos that commemorate them. Grab your earphones because this one is packed with carp wisdom and captivating stories. Fly Fishing for Carp Show Notes with Bill Marts 03:00 - Bill's fishing roots trace back to his younger years in Oklahoma, armed with nothing more than a cane pole, bobber, worms, and a minnow. Despite the absence of any fly fishing enthusiasts in his family, Bill's interest was piqued through books and television shows. 06:43 - Bill tells us how he started his own fly shop, Blue Dun, in Wenatchee. He worked at REI for a long time and always dreamed of having his own fly shop. 08:30 - Bill and his brother have put together an award-winning movie in 1976 called Angler's Autumn. 10:00 - In 2005, he decided to give up his fly shop as he was offered a position in the travel department at The Fly Shop. Schmoots Clooper 17:30 - Bill got into carp fly fishing during the early '90s after a float trip down the Winchester Wasteway with his wife. It was during this time that his friend, Darc Knobel, who once worked with him in Wenatchee, also became intrigued by the idea. Darc now runs his own fly shop, Desert Fly Angler, in Ephrata, Washington. Together, they eventually unlocked the secret to successfully catching carp. 21:00 - In the late '90s, they kicked off the Schmoots Clooper invitational. The name was inspired by a paragraph in John Gierach's book. 30:00 - Bill gives valuable tips for successfully targeting carp in Banks Lake and similar waters. 34:00 - Bill's go-to fly for carp fly fishing is the Bugeye Carp Wooly, a pattern he's so fond of that he even had it tattooed on his thumb. 49:49 - We discussed the difference between using a cane pole compared to a two-handed spey rod and a single-handed rod for carp fishing. 1:03:00 - Bill tells us about the first steelhead he caught on the fly. 1:06:00 - Bill's favorite steelhead fly, known as Bill's Bead Butt Burlap, is also tattooed on his arm. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/512

Oct 9, 20231h 10m

S9 Ep 511WFS 511 - The River Radius Podcast with Sam Carter - River Etiquette, Yvon Chouinard, Groover

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/511 Presented by: Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we chat with Sam Carter of The River Radius Podcast to talk about how he started his podcast and how he got an interview with none other than Yvon Chouinard of Patagonia. Moreover, we'll delve into the topic of river etiquette, discussing the essential practices and principles that ensure the preservation and enjoyment of these precious natural resources. Sam's expertise and experiences will shed light on how we can all play a part in being responsible outdoors. The River Radius Podcast Show Notes with Sam Carter 1:23 - Sam takes us back to how he got into the outdoor space. 4:33 - His idea of starting a podcast started with a radio show. He grew up loving the radio and always listening to baseball news, and then in college, he became a volunteer DJ. He also volunteered in a radio talk show about rivers called River Radio on KJSD. 10:53 - I ask him how he chooses his topics. 33:00 - Just this year he did an episode with Leave No Trace. We also had them in the podcast in episode 363. 35:22 - We talk about the different ways of packing your poop like using a WAG (Waste Alleviation and Gelling) bag or the groover and disposing of them. Sam also tells us how he cleans his groover. He tackles more about this in his episode called History of the Groover. 41:20 - We dig into river etiquette. As someone who has been a ranger before, he gives recommendations on what to do when you encounter unruly people in the river to avoid conflict. 46:08 - He describes his tech and studio setup for his podcast. He also mentions the equipment he brings with him when covering a story outside. 53:00 - For the anglers, he recommends several episodes to listen to in his podcast where he talks about specific fish species. 56:50 - He highlights some of his favorite episodes which are as follows: 2023 Western Snowpack & River Flow Highwater, Helicopters and Money What is a River 2022 Endless Summer series Rowing Home 5000 miles Kanawha Falls Rescue 2020 1:01:49 - He tells this amazing story of how he was able to get an interview with Yvon Chouinard. 1:07:00 - We do the two-minute drill. His absolute go-to music is reggae, particularly Alpha Blondy. He mostly rows and his favorite boat is the Hyside 10.5 Mini-Max. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/511

Oct 6, 20231h 13m

S9 Ep 510Great Lakes Dude with Jeff Liskay #6 - Grand River Fly Fishing with Tyler Dunsmore

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/510 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Stonefly Nets, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors If you've ever wondered what it takes to become an expert in fly fishing, you're in for a treat. Brace yourselves as we're joined by Tyler Dunsmore, a well-seasoned guide and casting instructor. Tyler has clocked in countless hours on the water, from guiding trips for Atlantic salmon in the Miramichi River to exploring the interior of BC for trout and Atlantic salmon. His experiences, adventures, and triumphs in the industry are a testament to his love for the sport. Tyler also takes us back to the time he decided to put down roots by the Grand River with his wife and start a family. The Grand River is not just a place Tyler calls home; it's a remarkable treasure trove of fisheries. Starting from its headwaters at Luther Marsh, flowing through Bellwood Lake, and down to the Elora-Fergus area and Paris-Branford area, the river boasts an immersive fishery with smallmouth bass and cold water thermal refuges for rainbow trout and brown trout. It's a rich ecosystem that challenges and rewards anglers in equal measure. Tyler unearths the unique features of this river, the dams, two major tributaries, and how the swing fly technique plays a crucial role when it comes to steelhead fishing. But the adventure doesn't stop there. We also delve into the nitty-gritty of fishing strategies, from selecting the perfect wet fly patterns to understanding the moody aggression of steelhead fish. Tyler generously imparts invaluable wisdom gained from hours spent on the water and acquaints us with Larry Halleck and Larry Mellers, the visionaries responsible for the revitalization of the Middle Grand River. So, if you're passionate about fishing or just eager to learn, join us as we explore the depths of Tyler's experiences in this enlightening episode. Episode Chapters with Tyler Dunsmore on Grand River Fly Fishing (0:00:05) - Steelhead Fishing Guide's Adventure Story Tyler Dunsmore's journey in the fly fishing industry, from Vancouver Island to Patagonia, is discussed, along with his and his wife's decision to settle down on the Grand River. (0:08:21) - Unique Fishery of the Grand River The Grand River flows from Luther Marsh to Bellwood Lake, with tributaries Nith River and Whitemans Creek, and features unique fisheries in Paris. (0:17:21) - Swinging Flies for Steelhead in Ontario Tyler shares his steelhead fishing setup, educates anglers on best flies for different seasons, and explains the importance of the swing fly technique. (0:27:04) - Wet Fly Patterns and Strategies Discussion Tyler Dunsmore discusses fly selection, black and blue fly pattern, flash and translucent materials, sculpting patterns, and steelhead fish aggression. (0:32:29) - Steelhead Fishing on the Grand River Tyler shares tips for successful steelhead fishing, including rod/line selection, casting lessons, and adapting to changing conditions. (0:45:45) - Fishing Techniques and River Conditions Tyler shares his fishing approach, emphasizing confidence in flies and discussing Grand River clarity and its effect. (0:58:45) - Revitalizing the Grand River Larry Halleck and Larry Mellers reformed the Middle Grand River chapter, Hina Kovacs is president, Larry Mellers is co-VP, projects to improve the river, smolting process of fish, and exploring the Grand River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/510

Oct 4, 20231h 7m

S9 Ep 509WFS 509 - Red Shed Fly Shop with Poppy Cummins - Clearwater River, Steelhead Angling, Spey Fishing

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/509 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Poppy, owner of Red Shed Fly Shop, is here to talk about the wonders of the mighty Clearwater River in Idaho. After an unfortunate accident, Poppy and his wife transformed a small hay barn into a fly fishing shop in 2002, which has been thriving ever since. Poppy also dives into his early steelhead fishing experiences on the iconic American River, detailing the allure and adrenaline that has kept his passion alive. Feeling the wind in your hair and the crisp scent of the Clearwater River, we tag along for an exciting fishing trip with Poppy. He imparts his wisdom on the perfect fly to use, the size of the fish you can expect, and the various camping opportunities available in the area. We also get an exclusive peek into the Red Shed Spay Clave event, a community gathering that offers demonstrations, tackle reps, and a shared love for all things fishing. Poppy's insider tips on spey fishing and his advice on visiting the river will prove invaluable to both novices and seasoned anglers alike. Lastly, we navigate the highs and lows of Poppy's experience running the Red Shed Fly Shop for the past two decades. Poppy provides a candid insight into the challenges and rewards of owning a fly shop and his aspirations for the future. Along the way, we explore various fishing hotspots on the Clearwater River, touted as the best steelhead river in the lower 40, and the Deschutes River. Poppy's tales of international visitors, professional guides, and insider tips on the best flies to use will leave you eager to plan your next fishing adventure. Episode Chapters with Poppy Cummins on Red Shed Fly Shop (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Running a Shop Poppy opened the Red Shed Fly Shop in 2002, sharing his experience with fly fishing and steelhead fishing, including his first steelhead fishing experience on the American River. (0:13:15) - Fly Fishing on the Clearwater River Poppy discusses fly types, fish size, camping/fishing opportunities, and the Red Shed Spay Clave event. (0:21:00) - Experiences and Tips for Spey Fishing Poppy shares tips on fly selection, fish size, camping, and fishing regulations, spay rod making, rod selection, the best time to visit, and wading techniques. (0:30:16) - Fishing the Clearwater River Poppy shares tips on fishing the Clearwater and Deschutes Rivers, demo casters for Spay Life, and his son-in-law Dale's help in the shop. (0:38:36) - Steelhead Fishing on the Clearwater River Poppy shares tips for fly fishing the Clearwater River, other nearby rivers, and his experience of fishing the Clearwater. (0:45:24) - Fishing, Running a Shop, Chatting Poppy discusses fly shop ownership, money management, camping/fishing regulations, and fly selection for the Clearwater River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/509

Oct 2, 202347 min

S9 Ep 508Littoral Zone #7 - Competitive Stillwater Techniques for the Non-Competitive Fly Fisher with Devin Olsen

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/508 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Dette Flies, Stonefly Nets Today's episode of the Littoral Zone is a deep dive into the world of competitive stillwater techniques with none other than Devin Olsen, a current member of Team USA. Devin is well-known for euro nymphing, a lethal technique for going after those elusive river and stream trout. Phil and Devin talk about the techniques Devin learned and used worldwide and how they can applied to everyday stillwater fly fishing. This episode is packed with angling expertise and insights that will have you itching to hit the waters. Competitive Stillwater Techniques Show Notes with Devin Olsen 03:00 - Before we jump into today's podcast, Phil addresses a listener question from our recent two-part episode on stillwater fly lines. 06:30 - Phil also just released a brand-new book titled "Stillwater Flies with Phil Rowley and Friends." This book is a compilation of Stillwater-focused fly patterns that Phil showcased in his fly-tying column at BC Outdoors Magazine. 09:30 - Devin started casting a fly rod at a young age, and his competitive journey began at 18 with the Fly Fishing Masters competition. He later joined Fly Fishing Team USA in 2006 and worked his way ever since. He is now preparing for his 13th World Fly Fishing Championships in Slovakia. 11:43 - Devin is also a former fisheries biologist, accumulating seven years of experience in the field before he started an online fly shop called Tactical Fly Fisher. 13:30 - Devin highlights how competitive fly fishing has significantly influenced angling gear and techniques worldwide, even for those who don't compete. 20:20 - Devin's early fly fishing experiences revolved around stillwater fishing, influenced by his dad and friends who were enthusiastic float tube anglers. Loch Style Fly Fishing 27:00 - Devin highlights the difference between traditional North American stillwater methods, such as using indicators or trolling, and the loch style. 28:00 - In North America, boats aren't often suited for the loch-style approach. However, in the UK and Europe, boats like clinker-style boats are designed with a unique shape that enables them to penetrate the water deeply. Drogues 29:20 - A drogue is an underwater parachute with a rectangular fabric that attaches to your boat's gulls and effectively slows you down in windy conditions. 33:00 - The advantage of loch-style fishing is that you're casting your flies ahead of the boat. This approach keeps the fish unaware of your presence and prevents them from being spooked or alarmed. 38:00 - Devin shared some tips on using a drogue. Cone-shaped drogues are suitable for drift boats because they have a single rope attachment. The drawback to the cone-shaped drogue is you can't use them to direct your boat much. Devin's Gear Choices 56:00 - Devin recommends having a comprehensive range of sinking lines, including slow intermediates to fast sinking Type Seven. 59:00 - In the UK, 10ft 7wt rods are common, while in North America, a split between 10ft 6wt and 7wt is observed. 1:05:00 - In competitive fishing, leaders often feature minimal to no taper. Many anglers in the UK utilize leaders with around 5 to 6 feet to the first fly and a similar length to each additional fly. The flies are typically placed on dropper tags, allowing for free movement underwater. Devin's Top Flies Polar Humongous Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: black 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Silver or gold tungsten bead Tail: Black marabou Body: Hareline medium UV Polar Chenille in silver or gold Tasmanian Treat Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: Olive dun 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Fl. orange tungsten bead Tail: Olive marabou Flash: Blue Krystal Flash Body: Olive Spirit River UV2 Scud Shrimp dubbing Hackle: Olive hen hackle Dubbing collar: Pearl Ice Dub Blank Saver Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: Black 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Fl. chartreuse tungsten bead Tail: Black marabou Body: Black Hareline solid Tinsel Chenille Mop Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: 8/0 Uni thread with a color similar to the mop body Body: Mop finger in cream, chartreuse, or any other color you wish to try Optional bead: Black nickel tungsten Optional Booby eyes: 5 mm black Booby Foam cylinder Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/508

Sep 29, 20231h 43m

S9 Ep 507Traveled #12 - The Pines at Island Park with Corby Egan - Henry's Fork, Island Park Reservoir, Yellowstone Park

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/507 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton Corby Egan, owner of The Pines at Island Park, walks us through the rich history, cozy cabins, and breathtaking surroundings of their lodge. Our chat with him will give a glimpse of what our upcoming Stillwater School will look like. Discover the fascinating history behind the lodge, the charming accommodations close to nature, and the must-see attractions that make this area of Idaho truly special. So, get ready to be inspired, captivated, and enticed by the beauty of The Pines lodge. The Pines at Island Park Show Notes with Corby Egan 1:37 - Corby shares the history of The Pines at Island Park. The lodge used to be called Phillips Lodge which was named after its previous owner, Harry Phillips. Corby and his family bought the lodge in 1997. Read more about their history here. 10:40 - He talks about the demographics of the tourists who visit their lodge, and also the funny experience of one of their guests who encountered a wild animal during her stay. 14:33 - He describes the Island Park Reservoir. 15:58 - I ask about the Elk Creek Ranch. 19:10 - Corby describes what our Stillwater trip in July 2024 will look like. 25:00 - He shares that time when Gordon Ramsay stayed in their lodge. 26:36 - He talks about the wildlife in their area. 28:02 - He tells us about their cabins. 37:16 - He talks about Henry's Fork and the other popular establishments in their area. 41:22 - He roughly describes what the itinerary would look like if you visit them during the weekends. They have a restaurant that is also open to the public. 45:00 - He recommends going to the Big Springs which he says is the most beautiful iconic spring in North America. That is also where the Johnny Sack cabin is. He also mentions other must-see places in their area such as the Harriman State Park and Grand Teton National Park. 51:18 - For animal seeing, he recommends visiting Yellowstone Park in the spring and fall. 55:12 - The closest place that you could ski in is Grand Targhee. He also mentions some other popular ski resorts. 57:02 - He encourages the listeners to see the lodge for themselves. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/507

Sep 27, 20231h 0m

S9 Ep 506WFS 506 - Madison River Fly Fishing with Alice Owsley - Riverside Anglers, Dry Flies, Montana

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/506 Presented By: Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets Alice Owsley of Riverside Anglers is our Madison River Fly Fishing guru today, and she's reeling in a boatload of wisdom. We unlock the secrets of Montana's most fished river, share tips for DIY angling adventures, and the different hatches out there. Hold on to your waders because it's time to ride the current of knowledge down the Madison River. Madison River Fly Fishing Show Notes with Alice Owsley 03:00 - Alice initially aimed to become a forest entomologist and was fly fishing for fun on the side. After a summer job in Oregon and a week-long journey across Montana, her experience at the Federation of Fly Fishers Conclave in Livingston sparked her interest in the fly fishing industry. 04:20 - Alice also connected with the International Women Fly Fishers and met some amazing women. Although she completed her major in Forestry, she really had her sight set on moving west at some point and being in the fishing industry. The Madison River 09:00 - According to Alice, the Madison River is the most fished river in Montana. She shared valuable tips for those interested in DIY fishing in that region: A. Do a little scouting. B. Step back and don't be in a huge hurry. C. Wait and see what's going on. D. Make a plan. E. Be safe like you would be in any new water. 17:40 - We delve into what sets the Madison River apart as the busiest river in all of Montana, comparing it to other renowned waters like the Big Hole, the Bighorn, Beaver, and more. 18:20 - Madison River is well-known because of its consistent water temperature maintained by the Hebgen Dam. 21:20 - We also touched upon the Montana Stream Access Law. 23:30 - In some of our earlier episodes, we talked to Kelly Galloup about streamer fishing and also about dry flies. Alice shared her expertise on the various techniques she uses throughout the year when guiding. 25:54 - Alice incorporates wet flies into her guiding program, but we also delve into the reasons some fishing guides might not include wet flies in their programs. 30:00 - We're headed back to Ohio this year with Jeff Liskay and Rick Kustich for our Steelhead Alley trip. So, I asked Alice where she steelhead fishes when in Ohio. 40:00 - We talked about resources for learning about hatches in specific waters. Alice mentioned several options, such as hatch charts available in other anglers' fishing reports, classes offered at local fly shops, and Dave Whitlock's book on trout foods. 44:50 - The Madison River officially starts at the Madison Junction, which is 14 miles from West Yellowstone in Yellowstone National Park, and it is the confluence of the Firehole and Gibbon Rivers. Riverside Anglers 46:56 - Alice guides both wade and float trips on the Madison River, as well as wade trips in Yellowstone National Park. In addition to that, she teaches at a women's fly fishing school in June and serves as an instructor at the Anglers Academy. 54:00 - Alice uses the Loon Outdoors Camo Drops Split Shot. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/506

Sep 25, 20231h 15m

S9 Ep 505WFS 505 - Stillwater Fishing Tips with Darren Huntsman - Stillwater School Giveaway, Henry's Lake, Sheridan Reservoir

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/505 Presented by: Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Darren Huntsman, a seasoned angler and expert in Stillwater fishing, shares his valuable tips and expertise in fishing the Henry's Lake area. This episode is a must-listen for fishing enthusiasts of all levels as we get ready for our exciting event where we will give away a fantastic fly fishing trip and a collection of top-notch gear specifically designed for Stillwater fishing. Darren's insights will help you enhance your skills and achieve success on your next stillwater fishing adventure. So, grab your fishing gear, prepare to soak up some wisdom, and get excited about the incredible giveaway event that awaits. Stillwater Fishing Tips Show Notes with Darren Huntsman 3:42 - Darren gives us a quick intro about him and his love for Stillwater fishing. We had him in the podcast in Traveled #7 where we talked about the top lakes to fish in Idaho. For this episode, he'll be giving valuable tips on Stillwater fishing. Casting 5:50 - Learn how to cast. On still waters, not being able to cast a good distance is a severe handicap. You don't need to be grandmaster, but you need to throw farther than 30-40 feet. 8:23 - The most common problem people have with casting is timing. Wait a little bit longer for that line to load your rod on your backcast. 8:40 - Keep your rod tip high on your backcast. 10:10 - Keep that straight contact line from the minute you start your countdown to when you start with your retrieve. So have your watch with you. Gear 7:13 - Use a bit heavier rod like a 6 or 7-wt to be able to cast into the wind. 24:35 - If he can have one pattern to fish a stillwater with, it's a real sparsely tied black and blue leech that Phil calls a bruised leech. Leeches are one of the most abundant food sources for fish year-round. 39:25 - Bring rain gear. The worse the weather, the better the fishing. 42:52 - Tie your own bugs. If you're not losing flies and you're not hanging up on the bottom, you're not down where the fish are. 45:50 - When done properly, a throat pump will not harm a fish. You only pump its esophagus, not its stomach to see what it ate in the last hour. He describes further how he does this. Presentation 12:20 - Know the depth of the water so you can count your fly down and be consistent with your presentation to the fish. 19:27 - Watch your rod position. It's very important to have your rod tip down. 30:00 - The shallower or the clearer the water is, the longer his leaders are, anywhere from 11 to 15 feet for a single bug. If he's going to throw a dropper, he's going to lengthen that out to 15 or 18 feet because he wants his first fly to be about 9 feet from where his fly line and leader join. 57:25 - Vary your retrieve until you find the retrieve that the fish want. His basic standard retrieve is about an 8-inch strip. Retrieve 21:20 - Depth, Retrieve, and Pattern (DRP) --Phil Rowley discusses this in detail in our Littoral Zone #3 episode. 27:48 - Figure out when a fish subtly takes it and you don't feel it. Darren's favorite way of Stillwater fishing is to cast and retrieve. Finding the Fish 36:20 - Find the habitat or the weed beds. That's where the bugs live which are the food source of the fish. 52:20 - When you're out on a lake, use your senses. Take a pair of binoculars so you can watch what fellow anglers are doing and don't be shy to ask questions. 56:27 - Be patient. 56:28 - When you think you're deep enough, go a little bit deeper. 1:03:40 - We're giving away a Stillwater fly fishing trip plus a bunch of gear. Visit wetflyswing.com/giveaway to join. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/505

Sep 22, 20231h 6m

S9 Ep 504Traveled #11 - Henry's Lake Foundation with Damon Keen - Fisheries Biology, Conservation Efforts, Restoration Projects

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/504 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us on this fascinating journey as we unravel the story of Henry's Lake and the important work of the Henry's Lake Foundation. Our guest, Damon Keen, is a veteran Fisheries Biologist who has dedicated his career to the protection and restoration of Henry's Lake. He shares his wealth of knowledge and experience, explaining the crucial role of the lake as the headwaters of the Henry's Fork, the significance of monitoring water temperature and levels, and the delicate balance of managing fish populations. We discuss the history and the unique features that make Henry's Lake such a popular destination for anglers, and the cooperative relationship between the foundation and the landowners around the lake. As the conversation progresses, we explore the multitude of conservation projects that the Henry's Lake Foundation is involved in. Our guest details the critical work of the foundation, from their focus on research and restoration projects to the stocking of brook trout and monitoring of water flows. We also delve into the funding methods of the foundation, which range from donations to lifetime memberships and the Temple Fork Rod incentive. This episode offers an insider's look into how the tireless work of the foundation ensures that the lake can be enjoyed by all anglers, from fly to ice fishing enthusiasts. To round out the episode, we discuss fishing techniques, recommendations, and the array of fish that can be found in Henry's Lake. We also touch on other conservation groups around the lake and highlight the best resources for fishing in the area. Wrapping up the episode, we discuss the recent changes in ownership of key properties around the lake, and the ongoing shoreline restoration projects. So, whether you're a seasoned angler or a conservation enthusiast, this episode is sure to engage and inspire you. Tune in and discover the magic of Henry's Lake and the incredible work being done to preserve it. Episode Chapters with Damon Keen on Henry's Lake Foundation (0:00:05) - Conservation Efforts at Henry's Lake Works to protect Henry's Lake, the largest in the Henry's Fork basin, monitoring water temperature, water levels, and fish populations. (0:13:23) - Fishing Lakes and Their History Henry's Lake, its history, the dam, and the Henry's Lake Foundation are discussed. (0:16:44) - Henry's Lake Henry's Lake Foundation works with landowners to improve fisheries, manage water trades and rights, and meet current water demands. (0:22:59) - Henry's Lake Foundation The Henry's Lake Foundation works to restore the lake and its fisheries, funded by donations and memberships, enabling anglers to enjoy it. (0:34:35) - Fishing Recommendations for Henry's Lake We discuss conservation groups, resources, fish, and techniques for fishing in Henry's Lake. (0:42:11) - Henry's Lake Fishing and Conservation Updates Fly fishing at Henry's Lake, Nature Conservancy's acquisitions, shoreline restoration projects, and Atlantic salmon fishing discussed. (0:54:14) - Funding for Conservation and Restaurant Recommendations We discuss improving Henry's Lake fisheries, changes in ownership of properties, and efforts to protect the lake. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/504

Sep 20, 202357 min

S9 Ep 503WFS 503 - Fly Fishing Henry's Lake with Phil Rowley - Stillwater, Mayflies, Golden Dorado

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/503 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear Phil Rowley joins us today to share his wealth of knowledge on Stillwater, this time zeroing in on the art of fly fishing Henry's Lake. We're gearing up for an exciting event where a lucky winner will snag a trip to this area, along with a handpicked selection of top-tier gear. Our stillwater guru also provides updates on his upcoming adventures, including trips to Argentina in pursuit of giant rainbows and Golden Dorado. Plus, find out the three key factors Phil considers when fishing a new lake. Fly Fishing Henry's Lake with Phil Rowley. 02:50 - Phil Rowley provides an update on his busy schedule, which includes early-year commitments to fly fishing and outdoor shows. He also mentions an upcoming trip to fish giant rainbows in Argentina's Jurassic Lake and a unique opportunity to chase Golden Dorado. 03:37 - Phil hosts trips to Argentina in partnership with Estancia Laguna Verde. The lodge owner also owns Golden Dorado River Cruisers, which operates a luxurious refurbished houseboat for cruising along the Parana River. 11:25 - Phil's initial visit to the Island Park area was for an episode he filmed alongside Bob Jacklin for the New Fly Fisher. They primarily focused on river fishing. However, he did spend one day on Hebgen Lake. 14:00 - Hebgen Lake is known for its abundance of Callibaetis hatches, particularly in August. Unlike many lakes that experience a summer slowdown with trout going deep due to reduced oxygen content, Hebgen Lake, situated at a higher elevation in the West Yellowstone area, offers excellent dry fly fishing opportunities during this month. 17:00 - Callibaetis is one of the few Stillwater-based mayflies out there. It's from the swimming nymph family. Unlike many mayflies, which are not commonly found in lake environments due to the lower oxygen levels, Callibaetis have external gills. 18:15 - Another mayfly you might run into in lakes is the Hexagenia limbata. 22:00 - Phil Rowley provides insights into the contents of his fly box when fishing in the Henry's Lake area. 28:00 - The washing line setup is a multi-fly arrangement where you position the buoyant fly on the point, farthest from the fly line, and then hang one or two flies off independent droppers. Stillwater Giveaway 32:49 - Just a quick shout-out to the giveaway we have going on right now. You can visit wetflyswing.com/giveaway where we're offering a trip and a bunch of gear related to this area. Additionally, we're working on organizing a live event where you can get more information on the topics we're discussing today, and we'll have Phil there to answer questions. Keep an eye on wetflyswing.com/live for more information. Phil Rowley's Fly Patterns 33:00 - Phil highlights a couple of fly patterns for each category. Phil has a pattern called the Holo worm. It is a curved scud hook, and a little red Marabou tail to suggest a wiggling larvae. Another great option is Jerry McBride's "Bionic Worm." This pattern features a fluorescent pink tail, a red body, and a hot orange bead for added visibility. 35:00 - Other flies in the pupal stages are your basic black and red chironomid. 36:00 - Phil's Collaborator pattern's burnt orange coloration with a red butt is designed to mimic the presence of residual hemoglobin in the pupa. Tips When Fishing a New Lake 41:00 - Phil emphasizes the importance of prior research when fishing a new lake. He suggests checking online resources, including Facebook groups, forums, and fishing reports from local fly shops. 3 Things to Look for in a Lake Comfort - Comfort for trout is primarily determined by water temperature and its relation to oxygen content. Phil looks for temperatures between 50 to 65 degrees Fahrenheit. Protection - Protection factors give trout confidence to feed. This includes rippled surfaces, algal blooms, and underwater structures like drop-offs, weed beds, points, rocky outcroppings, and sunken islands. Food - Food sources are crucial, and Phil focuses on identifying hatches and where the bugs are most likely to be found. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/503

Sep 18, 20231h 11m

S9 Ep 502WFS 502 - Native Fish Coalition with James Suleski - Brook Trout, Brown Trout, Pennsylvania

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/502 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Daiichi, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee Today we dive into the fascinating world of fishery science and conservation with James Suleski of the Pennsylvania Native Fish Coalition. James is on a mission to bridge the gap between anglers and fisheries scientists. We explore the intricate challenges faced by native brook trout, like climate change and the impact of invasive brown trout. Tune in to learn more about the strategies, misconceptions, and hopes for protecting these precious aquatic inhabitants. Native Fish Coalition Show Notes with James Suleski 2:45 - James is a board member of the Pennsylvania Native Fish Coalition, where he specializes in science communication. He distills complex fishery science research into easily understandable messages for the general audience. 03:55 - Native Fish Coalition is a grassroots, donor-funded 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to protecting, restoring, and advocating for native fish. 04:20 - James says he's just your regular angler who found his way into Pennsylvania's fly fishing scene after college and grad school. There he noticed that anglers and fisheries scientists had completely different takes on what was going on with native fish species, especially brook trout. Native Brook Trout in Pennsylvania 06:00 - James highlights two critical factors affecting native brook trout: climate change and invasive fish species. While climate change is widely acknowledged as a significant issue, the impact of invasive species is often overlooked in discussions about brook trout conservation. 14:40 - James clarifies the misconception about the term "invasive brown trout". He emphasizes that efforts to address this issue are not about removing them from well-known fisheries on a large scale. Instead, it involves carefully selected smaller streams with barriers to protect native brook trout populations. 17:40 - Selective conservation efforts in smaller streams where it's ecologically and socially feasible include stocking reform, catch and release regulations, and controlled harvest of non-native trout species. 41:00 - James remains optimistic because Pennsylvania hasn't yet explored cost-effective management strategies. One such approach is stopping the stocking invasive trout, which has shown promise in small streams. 47:00 - James highlights Dr. Shannon White's research on brook trout, which challenged the previously held belief that brook trout were sedentary. 58:00 - According to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, roughly a third of freshwater fish are at risk of extinction. 1:00:00 - Native Fish Coalition's strategy involves educating the public, encouraging them to reach out to legislators for stocking reforms, and fostering dialogue to promote responsible conservation practices. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/502

Sep 15, 20231h 18m

S9 Ep 501WFS 501 - The Fly Fishing Rep with Dick Sagara - Lefty Kreh, Jim Teeny, Rick Pope

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/501 Presented by: Togens Fly Shop, Bearvault, Smitty's Fly Box, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Dick Sagara who is a seasoned fly fishing rep for esteemed brands in the industry, tells us how he kick-started his career and the adventures, challenges, and triumphs he's encountered along the way. From the river to the trade shows, Dick shares his deep passion for fly fishing, offering invaluable insights into the life of a dedicated fly fishing rep. So, grab your favorite rod, reel, and a cup of coffee, and prepare to be inspired by the remarkable journey of Dick Sagara in the world of fly fishing. The Fly Fishing Rep Show Notes with Dick Sagara 2:40 - Dick shares his first memory of fly fishing which is watching the tv show starring Gadabout Gaddis. 4:00 - He mentions Joe Brooks. We talked about Joe in the podcast in episode 071. 5:00 - He tells a story about the relationship between Joe Brooks and Lefty Kreh. 7:16 - We go back to his early life. Their family used to go on long vacations to see sights and fish. They used to drive a convertible Buick Electra. 16:25 - We dig into the beginning of his professional career in the fly fishing industry. 23:27 - He talks about Rick Pope whom we had in the podcast in episode 158. 29:35 - He tells a story about Lefty during a trade show he attended with Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO). 37:40 - He talks about how he ran into my dad, Doug Stewart, back in 1977. My dad owned a fly shop in Gresham, Oregon that time. We also had him in the podcast in episode 031. 43:08 - Dick is Jim Teeny's longest-serving sales rep. We had Jim in the podcast way back in episode 005. Lefty told him that Jim was the finest salmon fisherman he had ever fished with. 46:35 - Jim wrote the book entitled "The Teeny Technique for Steelhead and Salmon: Lefty's Little Library of Fly Fishing". 54:05 - Dick donates instructional trips every year. He tells a bit more about his recent one in the Deschutes. 55:25 - We dig into euro nymphing. 1:04:05 - He tells more of his favorite stories about Rick Pope and my dad such as that time when my dad got into a fight while steelhead fishing with the family. 1:10:53 - We talk a bit about racism. 1:19:37 - Currently, he works with several brands like TFO, Angler Sport Group, Rainy's Premium Flies, Jim Teeny, and Aquaz. 1:23:20 - He walks us through what a fly fishing rep does. He likes working with anglers. 1:29:11 - For TFO, he covers Oregon and Washington. He also mentions the areas he covers for the other brands he represents. 1:30:18 - He has a certain love for the Driftless area. We had Geri Meyer in the podcast where we mainly talked about the Driftless area. 1:35:40 - He tries to attend as many shows as he possibly can. 1:39:02 - If he's traveling down the road, he likes listening to classic rock. He likes The Long and Winding Road by The Beatles and Psycho Killer by Talking Heads. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/501

Sep 13, 20231h 43m

S9 Ep 500WFS 500 - Klamath Dam Removal with Ann Willis - American Rivers, Snake River, Salmon

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/500 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Trxstle, Jackson Hole Fly Company In this milestone episode, we talk about the Klamath Dam Removal journey with Ann Willis. Ann shares her incredible conservation journey, starting from a 6-day white water raft trip. We explore the unique characteristics of the Klamath River, the catalyst for conservation efforts following a devastating fish kill, and the ambitious goals set by American Rivers for dam removal across the nation. Klamath Dam Removal Show Notes with Ann Willis 02:47 - Ann's journey into conservation began with a 6-day rafting trip on the Middle Fork Salmon River, leading her to work as a white-water raft guide for several years. After realizing the need for a more sustainable career, she delved into river science for 15 years and ultimately led her own research program at the U.C. Davis Center for Watershed Sciences. Ann Willis guiding a raft down the Grand Canyon. Photo credit: Amy Quinton 10:00 - Ann introduces the unique characteristics of the Klamath River. The Klamath River was a highly productive ecosystem until around 1918, when the construction of hydroelectric dams began. Among those dams were Copco No. 1, Copco No. 2, Iron Gate, and JC Boyle. 18:42 - In the early 2000s, a significant event that catalyzed conservation efforts in the Klamath River was a massive fish kill. During a drought, water shortages and poor water quality caused by the dams led to a devastating sight of dead fish floating for miles along the riverbanks. 30:00 - Monitoring efforts in the Klamath River assess stream flow, water quality, and the presence and distribution of aquatic life like insects and fish. 35:00 - The removal of dams can have a positive impact on climate change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions associated with reservoirs. Additionally, it encourages the shift towards more sustainable and emissions-friendly energy sources like solar and wind power. About American Rivers 38:00 - In light of American Rivers' 50th Anniversary, Ann gives advice to those advocating for the removal of the Snake River dams. Hells Canyon on the Snake River, ID. The Snake River is one of the next large dam removal campaigns to improve river health for people and the environment. Photo credit: Ann Willis 46:00 - Ann acknowledges the lack of diversity in conservation organizations. She added that there are also Eurocentric notions that need to be reevaluated, like the idea that these natural spaces are resources for us to profit from or benefit from rather than steward and enhance. 49:00 - American Rivers was founded in the 1970s, a period predating the establishment of significant environmental regulations such as the Clean Water Act and the Environmental Protection Agency. 49:30 There was a notable incident where the Cuyahoga River in Ohio caught fire due to extreme pollution. We talked about this in an episode with Alex Czayka. 51:00 - American Rivers has set ambitious goals to address dams across the country that have reached the end of their practical lifespan. Their vision includes the removal of 30,000 dams by 2050. 59:24 - People interested in the dam removal can reach out to the Klamath River Renewal Corporation. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/500

Sep 11, 20231h 8m

S8 Ep 499Great Lakes Dude #5 with Jeff Liskay – Walleye Fishing with Randy Gaines

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/499 Presented By: Dette Flies, Jackson Hole Fly Company, BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors On this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Great Lakes podcast, we're joined by tournament fisherman and lifelong angler, Randy Gaines, Captain at Nibble This Charters. With over 20 years of professional experience and multiple national tournament wins under his belt, Randy brings an ocean of knowledge and practical tips on fishing for bass and walleye in the Great Lakes. We talk about everything from the importance of understanding fishing structure to selecting the right lures and fly designs, to navigating different water conditions, and even a few fishing tales. Listen in as Randy shares his insights on how to adapt your fishing techniques according to the environment, the significance of color contrast, and adjusting lure size according to water conditions. He emphasizes the importance of mixing up your lures and techniques to keep the fish from becoming conditioned. If you're looking to elevate your fishing game, Randy's advice on different retrieves, lure wobbles, and the impact of water clarity and temperature on the action and appeal of lures and flies is a goldmine. Rounding off the episode, we explore the intersection of fishing techniques and technology. We discuss how wind can be your ally in fly fishing, the influence of the boat and electronic noise on fish behavior, and how light penetration affects your strategy. With his vast experience in tournament fishing, Randy talks about the game-changing role of forward-facing sonar in locating bait and fish. So, whether you're a seasoned angler or a novice looking to reel in some big catches, this episode is your perfect companion for a day out on the water. Tune in for some incredible insights and a whole lot of fishing wisdom. Episode Chapters - Randy Gaines on Tournament Fishing (0:00:01) - Fishing for Great Lakes Walleye Randy Gaines shares his experience as a tournament fisherman, guide, and fly fisher, discussing guiding, off-the-wall techniques, and how fishing has helped his career. (0:13:38) - Fishing Structure and Current Importance Randy discusses visible and invisible structure, current speed, fishing techniques, and safety. (0:20:46) - Choosing Lures and Fly Designs Mixing up lures, speed, matching the hatch, and trying something new to attract fish. (0:31:00) - Fishing Techniques in Different Water Conditions We discuss water clarity, time of day, lure size, color contrast, and slow retrieves for fly fishing. (0:39:09) - Fishing Strategies and Lure Selection Randy Gaines discusses lures, flies, wobbles, retrieves, water clarity, temperature, and mixing up lures to keep fish from becoming conditioned. (0:53:28) - Fishing Techniques and Technology Randy and I discuss wind, boat noise, light penetration, sonar, tournament tools and tactics. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/499

Sep 8, 20231h 0m

S8 Ep 498WFS 498 - The Dirtbag Diaries with Fitz Cahall - Duct Tape Then Beer, Climbing, Yosemite

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/498 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today, we're stoked to have Fitz Cahall, the Co-Founder and Creative Director of Duct Tape Then Beer, on our show. He's here to talk about his incredible podcast, The Dirtbag Diaries, and all the inspiring content they produce. We'll also dig into all the amazing work that they do at Duct Tape Then Beer. So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this amazing conversation! The Dirtbag Diaries Show Notes with Fitz Cahall 1:35 - Fitz talks about the origins of his podcast, The Dirtbag Diaries. He began working on the podcast in 2006, and it debuted the following year. 10:50 - He describes how their team at Duct Tape Then Beer produces their episodes. Fitz is the co-founder and Creative Director of Duct Tape Then Beer which is the parent company of The Dirtbag Series. 13:33 - Fitz tells about the four-part mini-series they made for Climbing Gold which is another podcast that he co-hosts with renowned climber Alex Honnold. Alex was the first person to climb El Capitan in Yosemite in the acclaimed film Free Solo. 14:40 - Looking ahead, they are also open to covering other outdoor sports aside from climbing. They previously covered hunting in their episode called The Elk. 15:43 - His gateway into the outdoors space was fly fishing. He grew up in Southern Florida near the Intracoastal Waterway and then ended up in Connecticut where there are a lot of fishing opportunities. It was there that he learned how to fly fish. 19:00 - Fitz talks briefly about the similarities between climbing and fly fishing. 21:28 - He shares the amazing story of how he connected with Patagonia. They began supporting the show early on and have continued to do so for 17 years. Duct Tape Then Beer has helped Patagonia with some of its films and campaigns such as Newtok, a story of the first climate refugees in America. 23:55 - Duct Tape Then Beer does films, marketing campaigns, and brand work for brands in the outdoors space and conservation organizations. For Fitz, he wants to tell stories on a wide range of topics. 25:32 - Fitz gives his perspective on addressing climate change and other environmental issues. He also shares their contribution to the establishment of the Bears Ears Education Center. 34:20 - He talks about the amazing story of how he came up with the title of his podcast. 37:50 - Fitz wants to provide fun, depth, and meaning to their listeners through the podcast. 40:55 - I ask him about his plans for the podcast. 43:30 - We talk about climbing in Yosemite. For him, there's nowhere quite like Yosemite in the world. He mentions the film The Dawn Wall where free climber Tommy Caldwell and climbing partner Kevin Jorgeson attempted to climb the El Capitan. 45:45 - He shares about that time when he slept on the face of El Capitan. 49:30 - He talks about the tech he uses for the podcast. 51:15 - Fitz gives us a glimpse of his daily life. 59:24 - He gives some tips for people who want to get into podcasting. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/498

Sep 6, 20231h 2m

S8 Ep 497WFS 497 - Aquatic Insects with Rick Hafele - Eastern Caddisflies, Western Mayflies, Entomology

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/497 Presented By: Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Rick Hafele, an angler, author, and Entomologist is back on the podcast for the second time to share some insights on understanding aquatic insects and mastering the art of matching the hatch. Rick's experiences and knowledge shine through as he shares his recent adventures with lake fishing in British Columbia, his involvement with the Deschutes River Alliance, and his exciting plans to fish in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. We delve into the role of observation and decision-making, choosing the right fly patterns, and adjusting the weight of the fly. With a spotlight on Caddis flies, we discuss some fly tactics, also highlighting the flymph pattern's effectiveness and the unique differences between East Coast and Western Caddis hatches. Our conversation also touches on the subtle nuances of nymph fishing, discussing the importance of achieving a natural drift, getting the fly to the right depth, detecting strikes, and understanding insect life history for a successful fishing expedition. Beyond these tips and tricks, we also talk about the importance of resources and learning opportunities. Rick shares his recommendations for books that offer deeper insights into eastern caddisflies and western mayflies. He also highlights the incredible online sessions with Phil Rowley where major orders of aquatic insects and their hatches are discussed. Wrapping up the episode, Rick shares his unique fishing tips for Montana and updates on his music endeavors. Show Notes with Rick Hafele on Aquatic Insects (0:00:02) - Fly Fishing Passion and Community Fly fishing's importance to the environment and community, tips and tricks, Water's West and Anglers sponsors, Rick's activities and upcoming trip, and lake fishing experiences in BC discussed. (0:12:24) - Caddis Patterns and Fishing Techniques Catching Caddis flies using pupa patterns, swinging pupa, dry Caddis patterns, flymph patterns, and East/West Coast hatches discussed. (0:19:24) - Observation and Decision-Making in Fly Fishing Observe the environment, learn about insects, and use the best tactics to catch Caddis flies. (0:32:01) - Mistakes in Fly Fishing and Nymphing Fly fishing tactics, environment, fly patterns, weight, weather, nymphs, pupa, and beetles were discussed. (0:39:18) - Learning the Techniques of Nymph Fishing Euro Nymphing's key factors for success, streamer effectiveness, and tips for further information are discussed. (0:50:04) - Insect Life History and Resources Learning We discussed aquatic insect life history, books, fly patterns, and Phil Rowley's online sessions. (0:59:55) - Fishing Tips in Montana, Music Updates We discuss fly fishing, Rick's blues music, and the importance of understanding nature. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/497

Sep 4, 20231h 5m

S8 Ep 496WFS 496 - Happy Camper Radio with Skip Huber and Daniel Pitts - Camping Gear, RV, REI

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/496 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Bearvault, Dette Flies, Togens Fly Shop Today on the Swing, we kick back by the virtual campfire with Skip Huber and Daniel Pitts, the dynamic duo behind Happy Camper Radio. They're here to spill the beans on their camping gear tips, share hilarious camping mishaps, and even sneak in a few podcasting secrets. Grab your marshmallows and get ready for a great outdoor chat with a twist of tech and a dash of humor. Happy Camper Radio Show Notes with Skip Huber and Daniel Pitts 02:43 - Back when Skip was just 23, he teamed up with a financial partner to put together a small-market FM radio station in Northwestern Pennsylvania. Although he later dabbled in law enforcement and even tried his hand at TV news, he said radio was in his blood. 04:40 - Daniel Pitts shares the story of how he got involved in the podcast with Skip. He and Skip were super-close neighbors, and he would often talk about podcasting. 07:09 - Happy Camper Radio recently celebrated a significant milestone with their 10th-anniversary episode, which aired approximately a month ago. 09:53 - Skip and Daniel discuss how they pick topics to talk about on the show. Camping Gear Tips From Skip and Daniel 13:10 - Daniel recounts a camping adventure with Skip at FDR State Park. Skip's uncanny ability to summon rain left his gear soaked and him frustrated, leading to his declaration that he was finished with tent camping. Just five days later, he got himself a new Transcend Xplor 200MK RV. 23:00 - Daniel shares his insights on the pros and cons of a pop-up RV. Additionally, he talked about the BAL leveler, which he swears by for effortlessly leveling out your RV. 28:46 - Daniel emphasizes the importance of quality gear for successful hiking. He particularly raves about Darn Tough socks, highlighting their incredible warranty that ensures you can get a new pair if you ever wear them out. 31:00 - Daniel is also a proud user of Bearvault, one of our valued partners featured on the show. 37:32 - Skip dishes out some advice on selecting the perfect RV to suit your needs. He also notes the importance of investing in a quality mattress topper, especially since many RVs come equipped with inexpensive mattresses. Daniel chimes in with another tip: don't forget the pool noodles! 41:55 - Daniel is at it again with more sock wisdom, this time suggesting Injinji toe socks. Podcasting with Skip and Daniel 45:00 - We delve into the tech side of their podcasting setup and their usual recording process. 49:00 - Skip used to be a part of the Judge Hatchett show. 54:45 - Daniel is an avid fan of podcasts and enjoys listening to audiobooks as well. He particularly enjoys comedy podcasts like Tuesdays with Stories and We Might Be Drunk. 58:22 - On the other hand, Skip says he doesn't listen to a lot of podcasts because he spends most of his time editing their podcast. Outside of that, he enjoys his retirement with his dog, his RV, and camping. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/496

Sep 1, 20231h 10m