Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/518 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Angler's Coffee, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Growing up in Sydney, Nebraska, the home of Cabela's, Jeff's passion for fly fishing was ignited at a young age. This episode takes you on an adventure with Jeff as he reminisces about his early fishing experiences, exploring the diverse fishing opportunities Nebraska offers, from trout streams to warm water fishing. As we journey through his early life, we also follow his career path through some of the most iconic brands in the outdoor industry, from his time with Cabela's, Winston Flyrods, and VF corp, to his current role as the President and CEO of Mayfly Outdoors, encompassing major players in the fly fishing industry. Our conversation doesn't stop at the surface level; we dive deep into the heart of the outdoor industry itself. We discuss the ever-important topic of sustainability in the fly fishing industry, the concept of B Corp, and the triple bottom line of people, profit, and planet. Jeff shares about Ross Reels' investment in a new anodizing facility in Montrose, Colorado, a move designed to reduce environmental impact while still maintaining a profitable organization. The conversation widens as we dissect the future of the industry, with a focus on upcoming collaborations from Ross Reels and Abel, all with an emphasis on conservation. Finally, we touch on practical fly fishing tips, such as the nuances of casting in the wind and the importance of practice. We celebrate the invaluable advice of casting instructors like Tim Ragef, Steve, Bruce Richards, Tom White, and Dusty Sprague. We conclude with an examination of the adaptability of the team at Ross Reels to stay ahead of industry innovations. Join us as we journey through the world of fly fishing, revealing its past, present, and future. Whether you're an avid angler or have never cast a line, this episode has something for everyone. Episode Chapters with Jeff Wagner on Mayfly Outdoors (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Mayfly Outdoors Growing up in Sydney, Nebraska, I learned to fly fish in cold streams for trout, bass, bluegill, carp, and pike. (0:08:38) - Iconic Outdoor Brands Ross' 50th anniversary is discussed, from its 1973 California inception to its current Colorado form. (0:21:18) - B Corp and Long-Term Success Ross Reels' success is discussed, exploring B Corp certification, triple bottom line, sustainability, ethics, and new anodizing facility. (0:25:27) - Ross Reels and Mayfly Outdoors Ross Reels' sustainability, longevity, innovations, other fly fishing companies, Mayfly Outdoors' acquisition of Air Flow Fly Lines, investments in people, place, and technology, and the triple bottom line of people, profit, and planet are discussed. (0:38:25) - Branding and Growth of Outdoor Industry Prana, North Face, Patagonia, Sims, Dynaking, and carp fishing discussed to maintain brand identity and explore fishing market opportunities. (0:44:10) - Carp Fishing in Warm Water Resources Carp fishing's potential benefits, fly fishing's responsibility, multi-species angling history, and Ross Reels' investment are discussed. (0:50:34) - Fly Fishing Tips and Conversations Casting nuances, instructor advice, and carp fishing's benefits to cold water fisheries are discussed. (1:00:00) - Fall Fly Fishing Launches and Collaborations Ross Reels and Able collaborate to promote conservation, sustainability, and longevity, while staying true to their identity. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/518

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/517 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Discover the intricate connections between droughts, fishing, and the colors of fall as we journey through the captivating Shenandoah Valley with our guest, Mark Frondorf, the Shenandoah River Keeper. With fascinating anecdotes and insightful discussions, we promise to open your eyes to the impacts of climate change on natural habitats and recreational passions like fly fishing. As part of the Potomac Riverkeeper Network, our conversation also illuminates the essential role of litigation and public engagement in safeguarding our precious waterways. We take a closer look at the rich culture and environment of the Shenandoah Valley, showcasing its north and south forks, and the importance of the Shenandoah River to the local communities. Witness the invaluable work of the Potomac River Keeper Network, acting as guardians of our water resources, and the potential of similar organizations to usher in meaningful change. In our discussion, we also highlight the vital importance of water quality monitoring in the Shenandoah Valley, including Discharge Monitoring Records (DMRs), pollution permits, and the crucial role of river patrols. In the last phase of our conversation, we take on the Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) process, and the research into harmful algal bloom studies in the Shenandoah River and Lake Anna. We'll discuss the long-term goal of establishing a budget to test for freshwater harmful algal blooms across all Virginia rivers and streams, and dive into the special karst topography of the Shenandoah Valley and its impact on water quality. The episode concludes with an engaging chat about smallmouth bass fishing, an appeal to support local riverkeeper organizations, and a call to protect our rivers for the enjoyment of future generations. Join us for a stimulating talk on fishing, river systems, and the significance of environmental advocacy. Episode Chapters with Mark Frondorf on Potomac Riverkeeper Network (0:00:05) - Drought Conditions and Fly Fishing I'm part of the Potomac River Keeper Network, discussing climate change, drought, fly fishing, and individual responsibility. (0:06:40) - Waterkeeper Organizations and Clean Water Act The Potomac River Keeper Network works to protect waterways through Clean Water Act litigation and public engagement, distinguishing between waterkeeper and friends groups, and collaborating with the Waterkeeper Alliance. (0:21:03) - Importance of Chesapeake Bay and Shenandoah River We examine the Shenandoah River, River Keeper Network, and the significance of the Shenandoah Valley to local communities. (0:34:23) - Water Quality Monitoring and Issues DMRs, pollution permits, patrolling the river for illegal pipes, cattle herds, and algal blooms are discussed for water quality in the Shenandoah Valley. (0:52:14) - River Pollution Study and Funding Virginia's rivers and streams are protected by the TMDL process and two million-dollar studies on harmful algal blooms. (0:55:56) - Riverkeeper Network's Impact and Challenges The Potomac Riverkeeper Network, karst topography of the Shenandoah Valley, Total Maximum Daily Load process, and Shenandoah River harmful algal bloom study are discussed. (1:08:11) - Mossy Creek and Smallmouth Bass Fishing Supporting local riverkeeper organizations, attending trout school in Massey Creek, and celebrating a gear giveaway winner are key to preserving the South River in the Shenandoah Valley for future generations. (1:12:27) - Fishing, River Systems, and Environmental Advocacy The Waterkeeper Alliance's history, legal work, and water quality tracking in the Shenandoah Valley are discussed. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/517

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/516 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Daiichi, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Matt Lewis of Redeye Bass Fly Fishing shares his insights on redeye bass and their vital conservation efforts in the Native Fish Coalition to preserve its native population. We will also uncover the unique characteristics of redeye bass, their habitat preferences, and the exciting pursuit of the Redeye Slam. Episode Chapters with Matt Lewis on Redeye Bass 1:40 - Matt tells us how he got into fly fishing. Initially, his focus was to become a medical doctor. He spent decades doing cancer research, but his outlet has always been fishing. 3:15 - One of his friends introduced him to redeye bass fly fishing. He grew up in Alabama where the species is abundant. When his interest grew, he got frustrated that there were limited resources for that species at that time. 6:00 - That led him to write and release a book in January 2018 entitled Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters. 9:38 - We dig into the distribution of redeye and other similar species. They exist mostly in Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. 13:50 - He tells us what a fall line is. 16:00 - He talks about fishing redeye bass which he says are aggressive top-water eaters very much like brook trout. His favorite bug to use is chartreuse or yellow popper. Any kind of foam attractor like hopper patterns also works well. 18:23 - He mentions East Alabama Fly Fishing which offers guide services in Tallapoosa River for bass fishing. 19:50 - He shares some concerns about the population of redeye bass such as the moving of species to where they don't belong and habitat disturbance. These would have long-term effects on their native population. 28:00 - He briefly talks about their spawning. 29:36 - I ask him about how he got connected with Dorsal Outdoors leading them to make a film called "A Slam That Saves". The film features him and Mary Beth Meeks attempting to catch a "Redeye Slam" in one day. 38:46 - The biggest conservation group that he has worked with was the Native Fish Coalition, a national non-profit organization. He also has worked as an advisory board member for a local riverkeeper organization. 43:35 - He encourages everyone to educate themselves and others on the danger of moving fish around, and to get involved with conservation groups. 45:55 - We give a shout-out to Angler's Coffee. Matt prefers dark roast coffee with bold flavors like the Muddler's Blend from Angler's Coffee. He also gives a shout-out to his go-to fly shop which is the Deep South Outfitters. 48:32 - Aside from redeye bass, the other top species you can fish in Alabama are smallmouth bass, largemouth bass, spotted bass, and panfish among others. He's currently writing a fly fishing guidebook for Alabama. 52:36 - Matt says pursuing redeye bass fishing is growing the sport because it's the easiest entry to fly fishing. 55:06 - He shares a fun fact about the species. 56:53 - I ask about the smallmouth bass distribution. 57:30 - He likes listening to podcasts when driving. Aside from listening to our podcast, he also likes The MeatEater Podcast and The Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast wherein he was also interviewed last year. 58:48 - He gives a call to action to support the conservation of the redeye bass population. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/516

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/515 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee, Chota Outdoor Gear In this episode, we're joined by Colby Trow, the founder of Mossy Creek Fly Fishing. Colby takes us on a journey from his early days with a cane pole to running a successful fly shop in Northern Virginia. We'll also explore the diverse fishing opportunities Mossy Creek offers, including their unique three-part casting clinic. Plus, stay tuned for a rundown of what the school we're putting together with Colby is going to be like. Show Notes with Colby Trow on Mossy Creek Fly Fishing. Hit play below! 👇🏻 01:40 - Colby's earliest fishing memory was at Wintergreen Resort with his grandfather. They used a simple cane pole, a red and white bobber, a couple of split shots, and a hook. 02:40 - When Colby was about 8 or 9 years old, he received his first fly rod as a gift, while his twin brother, Brian, got a mountain bike. At first, Brian teased Colby about it, but that all changed when he witnessed Colby successfully catching a fish. After that, even Brian got interested in fishing. 03:36 - Colby worked at a fly shop during his college years. Later on, both Colby and Brian relocated to Northern Virginia to explore a potential business venture. While researching this opportunity, they stumbled upon the chance to purchase a local fly shop in town. 06:00 - Tom Sadler is a member of the Mossy Creek team, and we were fortunate to have him as a guest on episode 98. 11:39 - We delved into the details of putting the school together, and he described what the experience would be like. 17:34 - The Rapidan River is well-known in the region. The Jackson Tailwater is one of two tailwater fisheries and is renowned as a fantastic wild trout fishery. Mossy Creek is a blue-ribbon spring creek offering nearly 4 miles of publicly accessible water. 21:35 - Colby shares insights about the significant hatches that occur in their area. 25:00 - Colby mentioned that being in a college town with James Madison University nearby, they have plenty of hotel options available. 36:00 - We get a rundown of the fish species and their sizes that you can catch in the area. 44:50 - Colby tells us about their very regimented three-part casting clinic. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/515

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/514 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Bearvault, Trxstle, Chota Outdoor Gear Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us as we engage in a compelling conversation with our guest, Shelby Stanger, Host of the Podcast, Wild Ideas Worth Living. Shelby shares her unique journey from being an adventure columnist at 19 to creating a podcast that grabbed the attention of REI Co-op. Her passion for storytelling and engaging in in-depth interviews led to a partnership with REI Co-op, which purchased her podcast in 2020. Shelby's love for podcasting isn't just about telling stories; it's about the conversations, the learning, and the opportunity to connect with people. We also take the opportunity to share some of our own experiences in the podcasting world. Listen as we recount our own journey from being an adventure journalist, to running marketing and PR events for women, consulting with international surfing brands, and then finally launching our own podcast. We talk about the lessons we've learned from others' wild ideas, our own struggles with writing a book, and share our advice for those who are considering going all in on their own wild ideas. We take a look at the importance of self-love and care, sharing inspiring stories from the podcast, and exploring the world of stand-up paddleboarding. Our conversation goes on to explore the technicalities of podcasting, the significance of engaging listeners with sponsors, and the impact of outdoor outreach. We discuss the changing landscape of media, the power of storytelling, and even our experience with TEDx Talks. We hope you find inspiration, motivation, and perhaps even your own wild idea to pursue. Episode Chapters with Shelby Stanger on Wild Ideas Worth Living (0:00:05) - Podcasting and Partnership With REI Shelby started a podcast, which was bought by REI Co-op in 2020, to continue her passion for interviewing people and telling stories. (0:10:34) - Lessons From the Podcast I share lessons on facing fear, dealing with imposter syndrome, and staying focused while pursuing a wild idea, as well as my journey to writing my book, Will to Wild. (0:22:59) - Stories of Adventure and Inspiration Self-love, care, strong choices, wild ideas, stories from 91-year-old psychologist, 70-something with heart transplant, 80-something fisherman, and learning from those who have gone before. (0:32:36) - Stand-Up Paddleboarding Adventures and Stories From journalist to brand promoter, exploring courage, stand-up paddle boarding in Indonesia and Peru, and getting a paddleboard. (0:36:49) - Podcasting, Research, and Sponsorship Strategy We discuss researching and preparing for conversations, podcasting skills, engaging listeners with sponsors, pitching sponsorships, and providing value. (0:49:36) - Outdoor Outreach and Podcasting Awards We discuss podcasting, kids' outdoor activities, and award-winning podcasts. (0:54:43) - Telling the Truth and TEDx Talks TEDx experience, storytelling, media landscape, humor, speaker coaching, and slides discussed. (0:59:19) - The Power of Adventure and Awe Awe, nature, podcasting, storytelling, and media are discussed to explore how they can bring mindfulness and connection. (1:07:33) - Exploring Outdoor Adventure and Podcast Growth We discuss alcohol, outdoor brands, surfing, and podcast growth, emphasizing nature without substances. (1:13:23) - Promoting Your Podcast With Apple Podcasts Networking, Apple Podcasts, newsletters, and continuing the conversation are key to promoting a podcast. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/514

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/513 Presented by: Smitty's Fly Box, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Mark Cirino, co-host of the One True Podcast, takes us on an enthralling exploration of the life and works of one of literature's most influential figures, Ernest Hemingway. In our interview, we took a deep dive into Hemingway's experiences, his writing process, and the enduring legacy of his works. Whether you're a devoted Hemingway fan or a literary enthusiast, this episode promises to be a captivating exploration. Join us as we unravel the complexities of Hemingway's life and appreciate the timeless power of his writing. The Life and Works of Ernest Hemingway Show Notes with Mark Cirino 2:13 - Mark grew up in a household where his parents were readers. Her mother was a writer and his father was a journalist. This is also where he talks about how he stumbled upon Ernest Hemingway's works. 3:48 - Mark talks about what the war meant to Hemingway. 5:49 - He describes Hemingway's writing style and the iceberg theory. Ernest's style may have come from his journalism background and his subject matter. The men of action that he writes about are involved in crises or dangerous situations. 11:30 - We dig into Hemingway's early life when his love for the outdoors started, particularly fishing. He mentions the places that Ernest wrote about such as Michigan where he wrote Indian Camp and The Doctor and the Doctor's Wife among others. 13:32 - He differentiates the real Ernest from the myth of him. 18:58 - He had Ken Burns and Lynn Novick on the One True Podcast to talk about their PBS documentary on Hemingway. Ken Burns and Lynn Novick also co-wrote the introduction in their book called One True Sentence: Writers & Readers on Hemingway's Art. 20:52 - In Hemingway's memoir called A Moveable Feast, he talks about how to deal with writer's block by starting with one true sentence and going on from there. 22:20 - He talks about fishing in relation to Hemingway's works. 24:05 - I mentioned John Gierach, author of several fly-fishing books, whom we had in the podcast in episodes 047 and 434. 25:36 - In Hemingway's journey as a fisherman, he bought a fishing boat in 1934 which he called Pilar. Mark has an episode in his podcast with Paul Hendrickson where they talked about the latter's book called Hemingway's Boat: Everything He Loved in Life, and Lost. 26:45 - Hemingway's works inspire Mark to keep his curiosity and continuously produce interesting topics for his podcast. 28:27 - We dig into the predator-prey concept in fishing and hunting in Hemingway's book called Islands in the Stream. 33:22 - His current favorite Hemingway work is A Farewell to Arms. He also talks about The Old Man and The Sea which he says is the perfect Hemingway theme of "winner take nothing". 36:36 - We talk about the end of Hemingway's life at the age of 61 in Ketchum, Idaho. His wife Mary said that he accidentally killed himself while cleaning his shotgun. 40:56 - Mark talks about Pauline Pfeiffer, Ernest Hemingway's second wife. He was married four times. He tackles more about her in his episode with Ruth Hawkins. 42:50 - I ask him about Ernest and Spanish bullfighting which he wrote about in his books entitled Death in the Afternoon and The Sun Also Rises. 44:46 - He shares some highlights from The Sun Also Rises. 49:13 - For those who haven't read any of Hemingway's works, he recommends starting with The Old Man and the Sea and one of his short stories called Big Two-Hearted River. 53:16 - He asks which I think is more conducive for soldiers returning home from the war between deep fishing and fly fishing. 54:12 - We dig into Hemingway's evolution of writing. From 1925 to 1929, he wrote four books which made him a literary superstar. His comeback in 1940 was successful because of his book entitled For Whom the Bell Tolls. 56:31 - He describes Hemingway as a pessimist as evident in an excerpt from his book In Death in the Afternoon, in which he says "All stories end in death, and he is no true-story teller who would keep that from you." 58:00 - He talks about that time in 1954 when Hemingway and his wife Mary survived two plane crashes in Africa, and his failed attempts before his suicide in 1961. 1:02:47 - He started the One True Podcast when he noticed that there were no podcasts focused on Ernest Hemingway. The Hemingway Society sponsors the podcast. 1:04:47 - He likes listening to other podcasts such as the Rico Brogna Podcast with Evan Roberts who is a crazy Met fan. We talk more about the Mets. 1:09:45 - We end the interview with his one true sentence. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/513

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/512 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Smitty's Fly Box, Waters West, Jackson Hole Fly Company Today we go fly fishing for carp with none other than Bill Marts. We explore Bill's invaluable tips on targeting carp in Banks Lake and discover the story behind the Schmoots Clooper Invitational. Plus, don't miss the stories behind Bill's iconic fly patterns and the tattoos that commemorate them. Grab your earphones because this one is packed with carp wisdom and captivating stories. Fly Fishing for Carp Show Notes with Bill Marts 03:00 - Bill's fishing roots trace back to his younger years in Oklahoma, armed with nothing more than a cane pole, bobber, worms, and a minnow. Despite the absence of any fly fishing enthusiasts in his family, Bill's interest was piqued through books and television shows. 06:43 - Bill tells us how he started his own fly shop, Blue Dun, in Wenatchee. He worked at REI for a long time and always dreamed of having his own fly shop. 08:30 - Bill and his brother have put together an award-winning movie in 1976 called Angler's Autumn. 10:00 - In 2005, he decided to give up his fly shop as he was offered a position in the travel department at The Fly Shop. Schmoots Clooper 17:30 - Bill got into carp fly fishing during the early '90s after a float trip down the Winchester Wasteway with his wife. It was during this time that his friend, Darc Knobel, who once worked with him in Wenatchee, also became intrigued by the idea. Darc now runs his own fly shop, Desert Fly Angler, in Ephrata, Washington. Together, they eventually unlocked the secret to successfully catching carp. 21:00 - In the late '90s, they kicked off the Schmoots Clooper invitational. The name was inspired by a paragraph in John Gierach's book. 30:00 - Bill gives valuable tips for successfully targeting carp in Banks Lake and similar waters. 34:00 - Bill's go-to fly for carp fly fishing is the Bugeye Carp Wooly, a pattern he's so fond of that he even had it tattooed on his thumb. 49:49 - We discussed the difference between using a cane pole compared to a two-handed spey rod and a single-handed rod for carp fishing. 1:03:00 - Bill tells us about the first steelhead he caught on the fly. 1:06:00 - Bill's favorite steelhead fly, known as Bill's Bead Butt Burlap, is also tattooed on his arm. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/512

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/511 Presented by: Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we chat with Sam Carter of The River Radius Podcast to talk about how he started his podcast and how he got an interview with none other than Yvon Chouinard of Patagonia. Moreover, we'll delve into the topic of river etiquette, discussing the essential practices and principles that ensure the preservation and enjoyment of these precious natural resources. Sam's expertise and experiences will shed light on how we can all play a part in being responsible outdoors. The River Radius Podcast Show Notes with Sam Carter 1:23 - Sam takes us back to how he got into the outdoor space. 4:33 - His idea of starting a podcast started with a radio show. He grew up loving the radio and always listening to baseball news, and then in college, he became a volunteer DJ. He also volunteered in a radio talk show about rivers called River Radio on KJSD. 10:53 - I ask him how he chooses his topics. 33:00 - Just this year he did an episode with Leave No Trace. We also had them in the podcast in episode 363. 35:22 - We talk about the different ways of packing your poop like using a WAG (Waste Alleviation and Gelling) bag or the groover and disposing of them. Sam also tells us how he cleans his groover. He tackles more about this in his episode called History of the Groover. 41:20 - We dig into river etiquette. As someone who has been a ranger before, he gives recommendations on what to do when you encounter unruly people in the river to avoid conflict. 46:08 - He describes his tech and studio setup for his podcast. He also mentions the equipment he brings with him when covering a story outside. 53:00 - For the anglers, he recommends several episodes to listen to in his podcast where he talks about specific fish species. 56:50 - He highlights some of his favorite episodes which are as follows: 2023 Western Snowpack & River Flow Highwater, Helicopters and Money What is a River 2022 Endless Summer series Rowing Home 5000 miles Kanawha Falls Rescue 2020 1:01:49 - He tells this amazing story of how he was able to get an interview with Yvon Chouinard. 1:07:00 - We do the two-minute drill. His absolute go-to music is reggae, particularly Alpha Blondy. He mostly rows and his favorite boat is the Hyside 10.5 Mini-Max. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/511

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/510 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Stonefly Nets, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors If you've ever wondered what it takes to become an expert in fly fishing, you're in for a treat. Brace yourselves as we're joined by Tyler Dunsmore, a well-seasoned guide and casting instructor. Tyler has clocked in countless hours on the water, from guiding trips for Atlantic salmon in the Miramichi River to exploring the interior of BC for trout and Atlantic salmon. His experiences, adventures, and triumphs in the industry are a testament to his love for the sport. Tyler also takes us back to the time he decided to put down roots by the Grand River with his wife and start a family. The Grand River is not just a place Tyler calls home; it's a remarkable treasure trove of fisheries. Starting from its headwaters at Luther Marsh, flowing through Bellwood Lake, and down to the Elora-Fergus area and Paris-Branford area, the river boasts an immersive fishery with smallmouth bass and cold water thermal refuges for rainbow trout and brown trout. It's a rich ecosystem that challenges and rewards anglers in equal measure. Tyler unearths the unique features of this river, the dams, two major tributaries, and how the swing fly technique plays a crucial role when it comes to steelhead fishing. But the adventure doesn't stop there. We also delve into the nitty-gritty of fishing strategies, from selecting the perfect wet fly patterns to understanding the moody aggression of steelhead fish. Tyler generously imparts invaluable wisdom gained from hours spent on the water and acquaints us with Larry Halleck and Larry Mellers, the visionaries responsible for the revitalization of the Middle Grand River. So, if you're passionate about fishing or just eager to learn, join us as we explore the depths of Tyler's experiences in this enlightening episode. Episode Chapters with Tyler Dunsmore on Grand River Fly Fishing (0:00:05) - Steelhead Fishing Guide's Adventure Story Tyler Dunsmore's journey in the fly fishing industry, from Vancouver Island to Patagonia, is discussed, along with his and his wife's decision to settle down on the Grand River. (0:08:21) - Unique Fishery of the Grand River The Grand River flows from Luther Marsh to Bellwood Lake, with tributaries Nith River and Whitemans Creek, and features unique fisheries in Paris. (0:17:21) - Swinging Flies for Steelhead in Ontario Tyler shares his steelhead fishing setup, educates anglers on best flies for different seasons, and explains the importance of the swing fly technique. (0:27:04) - Wet Fly Patterns and Strategies Discussion Tyler Dunsmore discusses fly selection, black and blue fly pattern, flash and translucent materials, sculpting patterns, and steelhead fish aggression. (0:32:29) - Steelhead Fishing on the Grand River Tyler shares tips for successful steelhead fishing, including rod/line selection, casting lessons, and adapting to changing conditions. (0:45:45) - Fishing Techniques and River Conditions Tyler shares his fishing approach, emphasizing confidence in flies and discussing Grand River clarity and its effect. (0:58:45) - Revitalizing the Grand River Larry Halleck and Larry Mellers reformed the Middle Grand River chapter, Hina Kovacs is president, Larry Mellers is co-VP, projects to improve the river, smolting process of fish, and exploring the Grand River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/510

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/509 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Poppy, owner of Red Shed Fly Shop, is here to talk about the wonders of the mighty Clearwater River in Idaho. After an unfortunate accident, Poppy and his wife transformed a small hay barn into a fly fishing shop in 2002, which has been thriving ever since. Poppy also dives into his early steelhead fishing experiences on the iconic American River, detailing the allure and adrenaline that has kept his passion alive. Feeling the wind in your hair and the crisp scent of the Clearwater River, we tag along for an exciting fishing trip with Poppy. He imparts his wisdom on the perfect fly to use, the size of the fish you can expect, and the various camping opportunities available in the area. We also get an exclusive peek into the Red Shed Spay Clave event, a community gathering that offers demonstrations, tackle reps, and a shared love for all things fishing. Poppy's insider tips on spey fishing and his advice on visiting the river will prove invaluable to both novices and seasoned anglers alike. Lastly, we navigate the highs and lows of Poppy's experience running the Red Shed Fly Shop for the past two decades. Poppy provides a candid insight into the challenges and rewards of owning a fly shop and his aspirations for the future. Along the way, we explore various fishing hotspots on the Clearwater River, touted as the best steelhead river in the lower 40, and the Deschutes River. Poppy's tales of international visitors, professional guides, and insider tips on the best flies to use will leave you eager to plan your next fishing adventure. Episode Chapters with Poppy Cummins on Red Shed Fly Shop (0:00:05) - Fly Fishing and Running a Shop Poppy opened the Red Shed Fly Shop in 2002, sharing his experience with fly fishing and steelhead fishing, including his first steelhead fishing experience on the American River. (0:13:15) - Fly Fishing on the Clearwater River Poppy discusses fly types, fish size, camping/fishing opportunities, and the Red Shed Spay Clave event. (0:21:00) - Experiences and Tips for Spey Fishing Poppy shares tips on fly selection, fish size, camping, and fishing regulations, spay rod making, rod selection, the best time to visit, and wading techniques. (0:30:16) - Fishing the Clearwater River Poppy shares tips on fishing the Clearwater and Deschutes Rivers, demo casters for Spay Life, and his son-in-law Dale's help in the shop. (0:38:36) - Steelhead Fishing on the Clearwater River Poppy shares tips for fly fishing the Clearwater River, other nearby rivers, and his experience of fishing the Clearwater. (0:45:24) - Fishing, Running a Shop, Chatting Poppy discusses fly shop ownership, money management, camping/fishing regulations, and fly selection for the Clearwater River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/509

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/508 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Dette Flies, Stonefly Nets Today's episode of the Littoral Zone is a deep dive into the world of competitive stillwater techniques with none other than Devin Olsen, a current member of Team USA. Devin is well-known for euro nymphing, a lethal technique for going after those elusive river and stream trout. Phil and Devin talk about the techniques Devin learned and used worldwide and how they can applied to everyday stillwater fly fishing. This episode is packed with angling expertise and insights that will have you itching to hit the waters. Competitive Stillwater Techniques Show Notes with Devin Olsen 03:00 - Before we jump into today's podcast, Phil addresses a listener question from our recent two-part episode on stillwater fly lines. 06:30 - Phil also just released a brand-new book titled "Stillwater Flies with Phil Rowley and Friends." This book is a compilation of Stillwater-focused fly patterns that Phil showcased in his fly-tying column at BC Outdoors Magazine. 09:30 - Devin started casting a fly rod at a young age, and his competitive journey began at 18 with the Fly Fishing Masters competition. He later joined Fly Fishing Team USA in 2006 and worked his way ever since. He is now preparing for his 13th World Fly Fishing Championships in Slovakia. 11:43 - Devin is also a former fisheries biologist, accumulating seven years of experience in the field before he started an online fly shop called Tactical Fly Fisher. 13:30 - Devin highlights how competitive fly fishing has significantly influenced angling gear and techniques worldwide, even for those who don't compete. 20:20 - Devin's early fly fishing experiences revolved around stillwater fishing, influenced by his dad and friends who were enthusiastic float tube anglers. Loch Style Fly Fishing 27:00 - Devin highlights the difference between traditional North American stillwater methods, such as using indicators or trolling, and the loch style. 28:00 - In North America, boats aren't often suited for the loch-style approach. However, in the UK and Europe, boats like clinker-style boats are designed with a unique shape that enables them to penetrate the water deeply. Drogues 29:20 - A drogue is an underwater parachute with a rectangular fabric that attaches to your boat's gulls and effectively slows you down in windy conditions. 33:00 - The advantage of loch-style fishing is that you're casting your flies ahead of the boat. This approach keeps the fish unaware of your presence and prevents them from being spooked or alarmed. 38:00 - Devin shared some tips on using a drogue. Cone-shaped drogues are suitable for drift boats because they have a single rope attachment. The drawback to the cone-shaped drogue is you can't use them to direct your boat much. Devin's Gear Choices 56:00 - Devin recommends having a comprehensive range of sinking lines, including slow intermediates to fast sinking Type Seven. 59:00 - In the UK, 10ft 7wt rods are common, while in North America, a split between 10ft 6wt and 7wt is observed. 1:05:00 - In competitive fishing, leaders often feature minimal to no taper. Many anglers in the UK utilize leaders with around 5 to 6 feet to the first fly and a similar length to each additional fly. The flies are typically placed on dropper tags, allowing for free movement underwater. Devin's Top Flies Polar Humongous Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: black 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Silver or gold tungsten bead Tail: Black marabou Body: Hareline medium UV Polar Chenille in silver or gold Tasmanian Treat Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: Olive dun 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Fl. orange tungsten bead Tail: Olive marabou Flash: Blue Krystal Flash Body: Olive Spirit River UV2 Scud Shrimp dubbing Hackle: Olive hen hackle Dubbing collar: Pearl Ice Dub Blank Saver Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: Black 8/0 Uni thread Bead: Fl. chartreuse tungsten bead Tail: Black marabou Body: Black Hareline solid Tinsel Chenille Mop Hook: FM 5095 or FM 5075 Thread: 8/0 Uni thread with a color similar to the mop body Body: Mop finger in cream, chartreuse, or any other color you wish to try Optional bead: Black nickel tungsten Optional Booby eyes: 5 mm black Booby Foam cylinder Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/508

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/507 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton Corby Egan, owner of The Pines at Island Park, walks us through the rich history, cozy cabins, and breathtaking surroundings of their lodge. Our chat with him will give a glimpse of what our upcoming Stillwater School will look like. Discover the fascinating history behind the lodge, the charming accommodations close to nature, and the must-see attractions that make this area of Idaho truly special. So, get ready to be inspired, captivated, and enticed by the beauty of The Pines lodge. The Pines at Island Park Show Notes with Corby Egan 1:37 - Corby shares the history of The Pines at Island Park. The lodge used to be called Phillips Lodge which was named after its previous owner, Harry Phillips. Corby and his family bought the lodge in 1997. Read more about their history here. 10:40 - He talks about the demographics of the tourists who visit their lodge, and also the funny experience of one of their guests who encountered a wild animal during her stay. 14:33 - He describes the Island Park Reservoir. 15:58 - I ask about the Elk Creek Ranch. 19:10 - Corby describes what our Stillwater trip in July 2024 will look like. 25:00 - He shares that time when Gordon Ramsay stayed in their lodge. 26:36 - He talks about the wildlife in their area. 28:02 - He tells us about their cabins. 37:16 - He talks about Henry's Fork and the other popular establishments in their area. 41:22 - He roughly describes what the itinerary would look like if you visit them during the weekends. They have a restaurant that is also open to the public. 45:00 - He recommends going to the Big Springs which he says is the most beautiful iconic spring in North America. That is also where the Johnny Sack cabin is. He also mentions other must-see places in their area such as the Harriman State Park and Grand Teton National Park. 51:18 - For animal seeing, he recommends visiting Yellowstone Park in the spring and fall. 55:12 - The closest place that you could ski in is Grand Targhee. He also mentions some other popular ski resorts. 57:02 - He encourages the listeners to see the lodge for themselves. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/507

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/506 Presented By: Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets Alice Owsley of Riverside Anglers is our Madison River Fly Fishing guru today, and she's reeling in a boatload of wisdom. We unlock the secrets of Montana's most fished river, share tips for DIY angling adventures, and the different hatches out there. Hold on to your waders because it's time to ride the current of knowledge down the Madison River. Madison River Fly Fishing Show Notes with Alice Owsley 03:00 - Alice initially aimed to become a forest entomologist and was fly fishing for fun on the side. After a summer job in Oregon and a week-long journey across Montana, her experience at the Federation of Fly Fishers Conclave in Livingston sparked her interest in the fly fishing industry. 04:20 - Alice also connected with the International Women Fly Fishers and met some amazing women. Although she completed her major in Forestry, she really had her sight set on moving west at some point and being in the fishing industry. The Madison River 09:00 - According to Alice, the Madison River is the most fished river in Montana. She shared valuable tips for those interested in DIY fishing in that region: A. Do a little scouting. B. Step back and don't be in a huge hurry. C. Wait and see what's going on. D. Make a plan. E. Be safe like you would be in any new water. 17:40 - We delve into what sets the Madison River apart as the busiest river in all of Montana, comparing it to other renowned waters like the Big Hole, the Bighorn, Beaver, and more. 18:20 - Madison River is well-known because of its consistent water temperature maintained by the Hebgen Dam. 21:20 - We also touched upon the Montana Stream Access Law. 23:30 - In some of our earlier episodes, we talked to Kelly Galloup about streamer fishing and also about dry flies. Alice shared her expertise on the various techniques she uses throughout the year when guiding. 25:54 - Alice incorporates wet flies into her guiding program, but we also delve into the reasons some fishing guides might not include wet flies in their programs. 30:00 - We're headed back to Ohio this year with Jeff Liskay and Rick Kustich for our Steelhead Alley trip. So, I asked Alice where she steelhead fishes when in Ohio. 40:00 - We talked about resources for learning about hatches in specific waters. Alice mentioned several options, such as hatch charts available in other anglers' fishing reports, classes offered at local fly shops, and Dave Whitlock's book on trout foods. 44:50 - The Madison River officially starts at the Madison Junction, which is 14 miles from West Yellowstone in Yellowstone National Park, and it is the confluence of the Firehole and Gibbon Rivers. Riverside Anglers 46:56 - Alice guides both wade and float trips on the Madison River, as well as wade trips in Yellowstone National Park. In addition to that, she teaches at a women's fly fishing school in June and serves as an instructor at the Anglers Academy. 54:00 - Alice uses the Loon Outdoors Camo Drops Split Shot. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/506

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/505 Presented by: Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Darren Huntsman, a seasoned angler and expert in Stillwater fishing, shares his valuable tips and expertise in fishing the Henry's Lake area. This episode is a must-listen for fishing enthusiasts of all levels as we get ready for our exciting event where we will give away a fantastic fly fishing trip and a collection of top-notch gear specifically designed for Stillwater fishing. Darren's insights will help you enhance your skills and achieve success on your next stillwater fishing adventure. So, grab your fishing gear, prepare to soak up some wisdom, and get excited about the incredible giveaway event that awaits. Stillwater Fishing Tips Show Notes with Darren Huntsman 3:42 - Darren gives us a quick intro about him and his love for Stillwater fishing. We had him in the podcast in Traveled #7 where we talked about the top lakes to fish in Idaho. For this episode, he'll be giving valuable tips on Stillwater fishing. Casting 5:50 - Learn how to cast. On still waters, not being able to cast a good distance is a severe handicap. You don't need to be grandmaster, but you need to throw farther than 30-40 feet. 8:23 - The most common problem people have with casting is timing. Wait a little bit longer for that line to load your rod on your backcast. 8:40 - Keep your rod tip high on your backcast. 10:10 - Keep that straight contact line from the minute you start your countdown to when you start with your retrieve. So have your watch with you. Gear 7:13 - Use a bit heavier rod like a 6 or 7-wt to be able to cast into the wind. 24:35 - If he can have one pattern to fish a stillwater with, it's a real sparsely tied black and blue leech that Phil calls a bruised leech. Leeches are one of the most abundant food sources for fish year-round. 39:25 - Bring rain gear. The worse the weather, the better the fishing. 42:52 - Tie your own bugs. If you're not losing flies and you're not hanging up on the bottom, you're not down where the fish are. 45:50 - When done properly, a throat pump will not harm a fish. You only pump its esophagus, not its stomach to see what it ate in the last hour. He describes further how he does this. Presentation 12:20 - Know the depth of the water so you can count your fly down and be consistent with your presentation to the fish. 19:27 - Watch your rod position. It's very important to have your rod tip down. 30:00 - The shallower or the clearer the water is, the longer his leaders are, anywhere from 11 to 15 feet for a single bug. If he's going to throw a dropper, he's going to lengthen that out to 15 or 18 feet because he wants his first fly to be about 9 feet from where his fly line and leader join. 57:25 - Vary your retrieve until you find the retrieve that the fish want. His basic standard retrieve is about an 8-inch strip. Retrieve 21:20 - Depth, Retrieve, and Pattern (DRP) --Phil Rowley discusses this in detail in our Littoral Zone #3 episode. 27:48 - Figure out when a fish subtly takes it and you don't feel it. Darren's favorite way of Stillwater fishing is to cast and retrieve. Finding the Fish 36:20 - Find the habitat or the weed beds. That's where the bugs live which are the food source of the fish. 52:20 - When you're out on a lake, use your senses. Take a pair of binoculars so you can watch what fellow anglers are doing and don't be shy to ask questions. 56:27 - Be patient. 56:28 - When you think you're deep enough, go a little bit deeper. 1:03:40 - We're giving away a Stillwater fly fishing trip plus a bunch of gear. Visit wetflyswing.com/giveaway to join. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/505

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/504 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us on this fascinating journey as we unravel the story of Henry's Lake and the important work of the Henry's Lake Foundation. Our guest, Damon Keen, is a veteran Fisheries Biologist who has dedicated his career to the protection and restoration of Henry's Lake. He shares his wealth of knowledge and experience, explaining the crucial role of the lake as the headwaters of the Henry's Fork, the significance of monitoring water temperature and levels, and the delicate balance of managing fish populations. We discuss the history and the unique features that make Henry's Lake such a popular destination for anglers, and the cooperative relationship between the foundation and the landowners around the lake. As the conversation progresses, we explore the multitude of conservation projects that the Henry's Lake Foundation is involved in. Our guest details the critical work of the foundation, from their focus on research and restoration projects to the stocking of brook trout and monitoring of water flows. We also delve into the funding methods of the foundation, which range from donations to lifetime memberships and the Temple Fork Rod incentive. This episode offers an insider's look into how the tireless work of the foundation ensures that the lake can be enjoyed by all anglers, from fly to ice fishing enthusiasts. To round out the episode, we discuss fishing techniques, recommendations, and the array of fish that can be found in Henry's Lake. We also touch on other conservation groups around the lake and highlight the best resources for fishing in the area. Wrapping up the episode, we discuss the recent changes in ownership of key properties around the lake, and the ongoing shoreline restoration projects. So, whether you're a seasoned angler or a conservation enthusiast, this episode is sure to engage and inspire you. Tune in and discover the magic of Henry's Lake and the incredible work being done to preserve it. Episode Chapters with Damon Keen on Henry's Lake Foundation (0:00:05) - Conservation Efforts at Henry's Lake Works to protect Henry's Lake, the largest in the Henry's Fork basin, monitoring water temperature, water levels, and fish populations. (0:13:23) - Fishing Lakes and Their History Henry's Lake, its history, the dam, and the Henry's Lake Foundation are discussed. (0:16:44) - Henry's Lake Henry's Lake Foundation works with landowners to improve fisheries, manage water trades and rights, and meet current water demands. (0:22:59) - Henry's Lake Foundation The Henry's Lake Foundation works to restore the lake and its fisheries, funded by donations and memberships, enabling anglers to enjoy it. (0:34:35) - Fishing Recommendations for Henry's Lake We discuss conservation groups, resources, fish, and techniques for fishing in Henry's Lake. (0:42:11) - Henry's Lake Fishing and Conservation Updates Fly fishing at Henry's Lake, Nature Conservancy's acquisitions, shoreline restoration projects, and Atlantic salmon fishing discussed. (0:54:14) - Funding for Conservation and Restaurant Recommendations We discuss improving Henry's Lake fisheries, changes in ownership of properties, and efforts to protect the lake. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/504

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/503 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Bearvault, Chota Outdoor Gear Phil Rowley joins us today to share his wealth of knowledge on Stillwater, this time zeroing in on the art of fly fishing Henry's Lake. We're gearing up for an exciting event where a lucky winner will snag a trip to this area, along with a handpicked selection of top-tier gear. Our stillwater guru also provides updates on his upcoming adventures, including trips to Argentina in pursuit of giant rainbows and Golden Dorado. Plus, find out the three key factors Phil considers when fishing a new lake. Fly Fishing Henry's Lake with Phil Rowley. 02:50 - Phil Rowley provides an update on his busy schedule, which includes early-year commitments to fly fishing and outdoor shows. He also mentions an upcoming trip to fish giant rainbows in Argentina's Jurassic Lake and a unique opportunity to chase Golden Dorado. 03:37 - Phil hosts trips to Argentina in partnership with Estancia Laguna Verde. The lodge owner also owns Golden Dorado River Cruisers, which operates a luxurious refurbished houseboat for cruising along the Parana River. 11:25 - Phil's initial visit to the Island Park area was for an episode he filmed alongside Bob Jacklin for the New Fly Fisher. They primarily focused on river fishing. However, he did spend one day on Hebgen Lake. 14:00 - Hebgen Lake is known for its abundance of Callibaetis hatches, particularly in August. Unlike many lakes that experience a summer slowdown with trout going deep due to reduced oxygen content, Hebgen Lake, situated at a higher elevation in the West Yellowstone area, offers excellent dry fly fishing opportunities during this month. 17:00 - Callibaetis is one of the few Stillwater-based mayflies out there. It's from the swimming nymph family. Unlike many mayflies, which are not commonly found in lake environments due to the lower oxygen levels, Callibaetis have external gills. 18:15 - Another mayfly you might run into in lakes is the Hexagenia limbata. 22:00 - Phil Rowley provides insights into the contents of his fly box when fishing in the Henry's Lake area. 28:00 - The washing line setup is a multi-fly arrangement where you position the buoyant fly on the point, farthest from the fly line, and then hang one or two flies off independent droppers. Stillwater Giveaway 32:49 - Just a quick shout-out to the giveaway we have going on right now. You can visit wetflyswing.com/giveaway where we're offering a trip and a bunch of gear related to this area. Additionally, we're working on organizing a live event where you can get more information on the topics we're discussing today, and we'll have Phil there to answer questions. Keep an eye on wetflyswing.com/live for more information. Phil Rowley's Fly Patterns 33:00 - Phil highlights a couple of fly patterns for each category. Phil has a pattern called the Holo worm. It is a curved scud hook, and a little red Marabou tail to suggest a wiggling larvae. Another great option is Jerry McBride's "Bionic Worm." This pattern features a fluorescent pink tail, a red body, and a hot orange bead for added visibility. 35:00 - Other flies in the pupal stages are your basic black and red chironomid. 36:00 - Phil's Collaborator pattern's burnt orange coloration with a red butt is designed to mimic the presence of residual hemoglobin in the pupa. Tips When Fishing a New Lake 41:00 - Phil emphasizes the importance of prior research when fishing a new lake. He suggests checking online resources, including Facebook groups, forums, and fishing reports from local fly shops. 3 Things to Look for in a Lake Comfort - Comfort for trout is primarily determined by water temperature and its relation to oxygen content. Phil looks for temperatures between 50 to 65 degrees Fahrenheit. Protection - Protection factors give trout confidence to feed. This includes rippled surfaces, algal blooms, and underwater structures like drop-offs, weed beds, points, rocky outcroppings, and sunken islands. Food - Food sources are crucial, and Phil focuses on identifying hatches and where the bugs are most likely to be found. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/503

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/502 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Daiichi, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Angler's Coffee Today we dive into the fascinating world of fishery science and conservation with James Suleski of the Pennsylvania Native Fish Coalition. James is on a mission to bridge the gap between anglers and fisheries scientists. We explore the intricate challenges faced by native brook trout, like climate change and the impact of invasive brown trout. Tune in to learn more about the strategies, misconceptions, and hopes for protecting these precious aquatic inhabitants. Native Fish Coalition Show Notes with James Suleski 2:45 - James is a board member of the Pennsylvania Native Fish Coalition, where he specializes in science communication. He distills complex fishery science research into easily understandable messages for the general audience. 03:55 - Native Fish Coalition is a grassroots, donor-funded 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to protecting, restoring, and advocating for native fish. 04:20 - James says he's just your regular angler who found his way into Pennsylvania's fly fishing scene after college and grad school. There he noticed that anglers and fisheries scientists had completely different takes on what was going on with native fish species, especially brook trout. Native Brook Trout in Pennsylvania 06:00 - James highlights two critical factors affecting native brook trout: climate change and invasive fish species. While climate change is widely acknowledged as a significant issue, the impact of invasive species is often overlooked in discussions about brook trout conservation. 14:40 - James clarifies the misconception about the term "invasive brown trout". He emphasizes that efforts to address this issue are not about removing them from well-known fisheries on a large scale. Instead, it involves carefully selected smaller streams with barriers to protect native brook trout populations. 17:40 - Selective conservation efforts in smaller streams where it's ecologically and socially feasible include stocking reform, catch and release regulations, and controlled harvest of non-native trout species. 41:00 - James remains optimistic because Pennsylvania hasn't yet explored cost-effective management strategies. One such approach is stopping the stocking invasive trout, which has shown promise in small streams. 47:00 - James highlights Dr. Shannon White's research on brook trout, which challenged the previously held belief that brook trout were sedentary. 58:00 - According to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, roughly a third of freshwater fish are at risk of extinction. 1:00:00 - Native Fish Coalition's strategy involves educating the public, encouraging them to reach out to legislators for stocking reforms, and fostering dialogue to promote responsible conservation practices. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/502

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/501 Presented by: Togens Fly Shop, Bearvault, Smitty's Fly Box, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Dick Sagara who is a seasoned fly fishing rep for esteemed brands in the industry, tells us how he kick-started his career and the adventures, challenges, and triumphs he's encountered along the way. From the river to the trade shows, Dick shares his deep passion for fly fishing, offering invaluable insights into the life of a dedicated fly fishing rep. So, grab your favorite rod, reel, and a cup of coffee, and prepare to be inspired by the remarkable journey of Dick Sagara in the world of fly fishing. The Fly Fishing Rep Show Notes with Dick Sagara 2:40 - Dick shares his first memory of fly fishing which is watching the tv show starring Gadabout Gaddis. 4:00 - He mentions Joe Brooks. We talked about Joe in the podcast in episode 071. 5:00 - He tells a story about the relationship between Joe Brooks and Lefty Kreh. 7:16 - We go back to his early life. Their family used to go on long vacations to see sights and fish. They used to drive a convertible Buick Electra. 16:25 - We dig into the beginning of his professional career in the fly fishing industry. 23:27 - He talks about Rick Pope whom we had in the podcast in episode 158. 29:35 - He tells a story about Lefty during a trade show he attended with Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO). 37:40 - He talks about how he ran into my dad, Doug Stewart, back in 1977. My dad owned a fly shop in Gresham, Oregon that time. We also had him in the podcast in episode 031. 43:08 - Dick is Jim Teeny's longest-serving sales rep. We had Jim in the podcast way back in episode 005. Lefty told him that Jim was the finest salmon fisherman he had ever fished with. 46:35 - Jim wrote the book entitled "The Teeny Technique for Steelhead and Salmon: Lefty's Little Library of Fly Fishing". 54:05 - Dick donates instructional trips every year. He tells a bit more about his recent one in the Deschutes. 55:25 - We dig into euro nymphing. 1:04:05 - He tells more of his favorite stories about Rick Pope and my dad such as that time when my dad got into a fight while steelhead fishing with the family. 1:10:53 - We talk a bit about racism. 1:19:37 - Currently, he works with several brands like TFO, Angler Sport Group, Rainy's Premium Flies, Jim Teeny, and Aquaz. 1:23:20 - He walks us through what a fly fishing rep does. He likes working with anglers. 1:29:11 - For TFO, he covers Oregon and Washington. He also mentions the areas he covers for the other brands he represents. 1:30:18 - He has a certain love for the Driftless area. We had Geri Meyer in the podcast where we mainly talked about the Driftless area. 1:35:40 - He tries to attend as many shows as he possibly can. 1:39:02 - If he's traveling down the road, he likes listening to classic rock. He likes The Long and Winding Road by The Beatles and Psycho Killer by Talking Heads. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/501

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/500 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Trxstle, Jackson Hole Fly Company In this milestone episode, we talk about the Klamath Dam Removal journey with Ann Willis. Ann shares her incredible conservation journey, starting from a 6-day white water raft trip. We explore the unique characteristics of the Klamath River, the catalyst for conservation efforts following a devastating fish kill, and the ambitious goals set by American Rivers for dam removal across the nation. Klamath Dam Removal Show Notes with Ann Willis 02:47 - Ann's journey into conservation began with a 6-day rafting trip on the Middle Fork Salmon River, leading her to work as a white-water raft guide for several years. After realizing the need for a more sustainable career, she delved into river science for 15 years and ultimately led her own research program at the U.C. Davis Center for Watershed Sciences. Ann Willis guiding a raft down the Grand Canyon. Photo credit: Amy Quinton 10:00 - Ann introduces the unique characteristics of the Klamath River. The Klamath River was a highly productive ecosystem until around 1918, when the construction of hydroelectric dams began. Among those dams were Copco No. 1, Copco No. 2, Iron Gate, and JC Boyle. 18:42 - In the early 2000s, a significant event that catalyzed conservation efforts in the Klamath River was a massive fish kill. During a drought, water shortages and poor water quality caused by the dams led to a devastating sight of dead fish floating for miles along the riverbanks. 30:00 - Monitoring efforts in the Klamath River assess stream flow, water quality, and the presence and distribution of aquatic life like insects and fish. 35:00 - The removal of dams can have a positive impact on climate change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions associated with reservoirs. Additionally, it encourages the shift towards more sustainable and emissions-friendly energy sources like solar and wind power. About American Rivers 38:00 - In light of American Rivers' 50th Anniversary, Ann gives advice to those advocating for the removal of the Snake River dams. Hells Canyon on the Snake River, ID. The Snake River is one of the next large dam removal campaigns to improve river health for people and the environment. Photo credit: Ann Willis 46:00 - Ann acknowledges the lack of diversity in conservation organizations. She added that there are also Eurocentric notions that need to be reevaluated, like the idea that these natural spaces are resources for us to profit from or benefit from rather than steward and enhance. 49:00 - American Rivers was founded in the 1970s, a period predating the establishment of significant environmental regulations such as the Clean Water Act and the Environmental Protection Agency. 49:30 There was a notable incident where the Cuyahoga River in Ohio caught fire due to extreme pollution. We talked about this in an episode with Alex Czayka. 51:00 - American Rivers has set ambitious goals to address dams across the country that have reached the end of their practical lifespan. Their vision includes the removal of 30,000 dams by 2050. 59:24 - People interested in the dam removal can reach out to the Klamath River Renewal Corporation. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/500

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/499 Presented By: Dette Flies, Jackson Hole Fly Company, BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors On this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Great Lakes podcast, we're joined by tournament fisherman and lifelong angler, Randy Gaines, Captain at Nibble This Charters. With over 20 years of professional experience and multiple national tournament wins under his belt, Randy brings an ocean of knowledge and practical tips on fishing for bass and walleye in the Great Lakes. We talk about everything from the importance of understanding fishing structure to selecting the right lures and fly designs, to navigating different water conditions, and even a few fishing tales. Listen in as Randy shares his insights on how to adapt your fishing techniques according to the environment, the significance of color contrast, and adjusting lure size according to water conditions. He emphasizes the importance of mixing up your lures and techniques to keep the fish from becoming conditioned. If you're looking to elevate your fishing game, Randy's advice on different retrieves, lure wobbles, and the impact of water clarity and temperature on the action and appeal of lures and flies is a goldmine. Rounding off the episode, we explore the intersection of fishing techniques and technology. We discuss how wind can be your ally in fly fishing, the influence of the boat and electronic noise on fish behavior, and how light penetration affects your strategy. With his vast experience in tournament fishing, Randy talks about the game-changing role of forward-facing sonar in locating bait and fish. So, whether you're a seasoned angler or a novice looking to reel in some big catches, this episode is your perfect companion for a day out on the water. Tune in for some incredible insights and a whole lot of fishing wisdom. Episode Chapters - Randy Gaines on Tournament Fishing (0:00:01) - Fishing for Great Lakes Walleye Randy Gaines shares his experience as a tournament fisherman, guide, and fly fisher, discussing guiding, off-the-wall techniques, and how fishing has helped his career. (0:13:38) - Fishing Structure and Current Importance Randy discusses visible and invisible structure, current speed, fishing techniques, and safety. (0:20:46) - Choosing Lures and Fly Designs Mixing up lures, speed, matching the hatch, and trying something new to attract fish. (0:31:00) - Fishing Techniques in Different Water Conditions We discuss water clarity, time of day, lure size, color contrast, and slow retrieves for fly fishing. (0:39:09) - Fishing Strategies and Lure Selection Randy Gaines discusses lures, flies, wobbles, retrieves, water clarity, temperature, and mixing up lures to keep fish from becoming conditioned. (0:53:28) - Fishing Techniques and Technology Randy and I discuss wind, boat noise, light penetration, sonar, tournament tools and tactics. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/499

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/498 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today, we're stoked to have Fitz Cahall, the Co-Founder and Creative Director of Duct Tape Then Beer, on our show. He's here to talk about his incredible podcast, The Dirtbag Diaries, and all the inspiring content they produce. We'll also dig into all the amazing work that they do at Duct Tape Then Beer. So, sit back, relax, and let's dive into this amazing conversation! The Dirtbag Diaries Show Notes with Fitz Cahall 1:35 - Fitz talks about the origins of his podcast, The Dirtbag Diaries. He began working on the podcast in 2006, and it debuted the following year. 10:50 - He describes how their team at Duct Tape Then Beer produces their episodes. Fitz is the co-founder and Creative Director of Duct Tape Then Beer which is the parent company of The Dirtbag Series. 13:33 - Fitz tells about the four-part mini-series they made for Climbing Gold which is another podcast that he co-hosts with renowned climber Alex Honnold. Alex was the first person to climb El Capitan in Yosemite in the acclaimed film Free Solo. 14:40 - Looking ahead, they are also open to covering other outdoor sports aside from climbing. They previously covered hunting in their episode called The Elk. 15:43 - His gateway into the outdoors space was fly fishing. He grew up in Southern Florida near the Intracoastal Waterway and then ended up in Connecticut where there are a lot of fishing opportunities. It was there that he learned how to fly fish. 19:00 - Fitz talks briefly about the similarities between climbing and fly fishing. 21:28 - He shares the amazing story of how he connected with Patagonia. They began supporting the show early on and have continued to do so for 17 years. Duct Tape Then Beer has helped Patagonia with some of its films and campaigns such as Newtok, a story of the first climate refugees in America. 23:55 - Duct Tape Then Beer does films, marketing campaigns, and brand work for brands in the outdoors space and conservation organizations. For Fitz, he wants to tell stories on a wide range of topics. 25:32 - Fitz gives his perspective on addressing climate change and other environmental issues. He also shares their contribution to the establishment of the Bears Ears Education Center. 34:20 - He talks about the amazing story of how he came up with the title of his podcast. 37:50 - Fitz wants to provide fun, depth, and meaning to their listeners through the podcast. 40:55 - I ask him about his plans for the podcast. 43:30 - We talk about climbing in Yosemite. For him, there's nowhere quite like Yosemite in the world. He mentions the film The Dawn Wall where free climber Tommy Caldwell and climbing partner Kevin Jorgeson attempted to climb the El Capitan. 45:45 - He shares about that time when he slept on the face of El Capitan. 49:30 - He talks about the tech he uses for the podcast. 51:15 - Fitz gives us a glimpse of his daily life. 59:24 - He gives some tips for people who want to get into podcasting. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/498

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/497 Presented By: Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Stonefly Nets, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Rick Hafele, an angler, author, and Entomologist is back on the podcast for the second time to share some insights on understanding aquatic insects and mastering the art of matching the hatch. Rick's experiences and knowledge shine through as he shares his recent adventures with lake fishing in British Columbia, his involvement with the Deschutes River Alliance, and his exciting plans to fish in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. We delve into the role of observation and decision-making, choosing the right fly patterns, and adjusting the weight of the fly. With a spotlight on Caddis flies, we discuss some fly tactics, also highlighting the flymph pattern's effectiveness and the unique differences between East Coast and Western Caddis hatches. Our conversation also touches on the subtle nuances of nymph fishing, discussing the importance of achieving a natural drift, getting the fly to the right depth, detecting strikes, and understanding insect life history for a successful fishing expedition. Beyond these tips and tricks, we also talk about the importance of resources and learning opportunities. Rick shares his recommendations for books that offer deeper insights into eastern caddisflies and western mayflies. He also highlights the incredible online sessions with Phil Rowley where major orders of aquatic insects and their hatches are discussed. Wrapping up the episode, Rick shares his unique fishing tips for Montana and updates on his music endeavors. Show Notes with Rick Hafele on Aquatic Insects (0:00:02) - Fly Fishing Passion and Community Fly fishing's importance to the environment and community, tips and tricks, Water's West and Anglers sponsors, Rick's activities and upcoming trip, and lake fishing experiences in BC discussed. (0:12:24) - Caddis Patterns and Fishing Techniques Catching Caddis flies using pupa patterns, swinging pupa, dry Caddis patterns, flymph patterns, and East/West Coast hatches discussed. (0:19:24) - Observation and Decision-Making in Fly Fishing Observe the environment, learn about insects, and use the best tactics to catch Caddis flies. (0:32:01) - Mistakes in Fly Fishing and Nymphing Fly fishing tactics, environment, fly patterns, weight, weather, nymphs, pupa, and beetles were discussed. (0:39:18) - Learning the Techniques of Nymph Fishing Euro Nymphing's key factors for success, streamer effectiveness, and tips for further information are discussed. (0:50:04) - Insect Life History and Resources Learning We discussed aquatic insect life history, books, fly patterns, and Phil Rowley's online sessions. (0:59:55) - Fishing Tips in Montana, Music Updates We discuss fly fishing, Rick's blues music, and the importance of understanding nature. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/497

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/496 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Bearvault, Dette Flies, Togens Fly Shop Today on the Swing, we kick back by the virtual campfire with Skip Huber and Daniel Pitts, the dynamic duo behind Happy Camper Radio. They're here to spill the beans on their camping gear tips, share hilarious camping mishaps, and even sneak in a few podcasting secrets. Grab your marshmallows and get ready for a great outdoor chat with a twist of tech and a dash of humor. Happy Camper Radio Show Notes with Skip Huber and Daniel Pitts 02:43 - Back when Skip was just 23, he teamed up with a financial partner to put together a small-market FM radio station in Northwestern Pennsylvania. Although he later dabbled in law enforcement and even tried his hand at TV news, he said radio was in his blood. 04:40 - Daniel Pitts shares the story of how he got involved in the podcast with Skip. He and Skip were super-close neighbors, and he would often talk about podcasting. 07:09 - Happy Camper Radio recently celebrated a significant milestone with their 10th-anniversary episode, which aired approximately a month ago. 09:53 - Skip and Daniel discuss how they pick topics to talk about on the show. Camping Gear Tips From Skip and Daniel 13:10 - Daniel recounts a camping adventure with Skip at FDR State Park. Skip's uncanny ability to summon rain left his gear soaked and him frustrated, leading to his declaration that he was finished with tent camping. Just five days later, he got himself a new Transcend Xplor 200MK RV. 23:00 - Daniel shares his insights on the pros and cons of a pop-up RV. Additionally, he talked about the BAL leveler, which he swears by for effortlessly leveling out your RV. 28:46 - Daniel emphasizes the importance of quality gear for successful hiking. He particularly raves about Darn Tough socks, highlighting their incredible warranty that ensures you can get a new pair if you ever wear them out. 31:00 - Daniel is also a proud user of Bearvault, one of our valued partners featured on the show. 37:32 - Skip dishes out some advice on selecting the perfect RV to suit your needs. He also notes the importance of investing in a quality mattress topper, especially since many RVs come equipped with inexpensive mattresses. Daniel chimes in with another tip: don't forget the pool noodles! 41:55 - Daniel is at it again with more sock wisdom, this time suggesting Injinji toe socks. Podcasting with Skip and Daniel 45:00 - We delve into the tech side of their podcasting setup and their usual recording process. 49:00 - Skip used to be a part of the Judge Hatchett show. 54:45 - Daniel is an avid fan of podcasts and enjoys listening to audiobooks as well. He particularly enjoys comedy podcasts like Tuesdays with Stories and We Might Be Drunk. 58:22 - On the other hand, Skip says he doesn't listen to a lot of podcasts because he spends most of his time editing their podcast. Outside of that, he enjoys his retirement with his dog, his RV, and camping. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/496

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/495 Presented By: BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Picture this: You're standing at the base of El Capitan, the world's most famous rock climb, surrounded by the matchless beauty of Yosemite National Park. How does it feel? Our experienced guides, David and Greg, take us on this exciting journey in this episode, sharing insights about the park, from its unique fishing spots to the crucial issue of bear management. We learn about the distinctive characteristics of the park and the significance of restoring the Hetch Hetchy Valley and our rivers. You might have heard tales of bear encounters in Yosemite, but did you know there's never been a black bear-related fatality in the park? In an enlightening conversation, we discuss the challenges of human-bear interaction management and the critical role of rangers. On a lighter note, we delve into the world of fishing in Yosemite. Imagine casting your line in the diverse waters, waiting for the nibble of a golden trout or a German brown. David and Greg share tips and techniques to reel in the best catch, and reveal their favorite fishing spots. Conservation and stewardship take center stage as we shift our attention to the history and politics of Hetch Hetchy Valley in Yosemite. We probe into the potential for its restoration and its impact on the park. We also discuss the practice of good fishing ethics and the significance of passing on the knowledge of conservation and sustainability. This episode is a testament to the power of small acts of kindness and their ripple effect on the world. So, tune in, as we together explore the wonders of Yosemite, all the while learning how to plan your trip, the changes to the recreation booking process, and much more. Episode Chapters (0:00:05) - Yosemite Exploration and Backcountry Fishing (0:08:21) - Yosemite Fly Fishing and Backcountry Adventures (0:14:56) - Managing Bears and Food in Yosemite (0:23:17) - Bear Sightings and Tourist Expectations (0:27:38) - Fishing Trips and Expectations (0:36:02) - Sierra Fishing Strategies and Tips (0:44:49) - Restoring Hetch Hetchy Valley, Environmental Impact (0:50:53) - Restoring Hetch Hetchy Valley (1:01:24) - Responsible Catch and Release Fishing Tips (1:12:00) - Fishing and Environmental Concerns (1:16:53) - The Power of Making a Difference (1:20:49) - The Importance of Conservation and Stewardship (1:32:37) - Conservation and Education in Yosemite (1:36:14) - Changes to Recreation Booking Process Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/495

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/494 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for some dry fly tips for the Farmington River as we dive into our latest podcast episode with Antoine Bissieux. In this episode, we'll be focusing on dry fly fishing. But that's not all! We'll also talk about the top rivers to fish in Connecticut, a hidden gem for fly fishing enthusiasts. Antoine will also share some gear recommendations to enhance your dry fly fishing experience. So kick back, grab your favorite beverage, and get ready for a laidback and informative conversation that will have you itching to hit the water with your dry flies at the ready! Farmington River Show Notes with Antoine Bissieux 1:34 - Antoine gives us an update since he guested on our podcast in episode 424. He talks about that time when he spent two weeks in the Farmington River with his old friend, Yannick Riviere, and some other anglers. When they were there, a tremendous storm came in. 8:20 - His season comes to an end after Christmas. He doesn't start fishing until mid-March. It varies from year to year depending on the weather. In his spare time, he usually ties flies and creates watches, which he finds relaxing. 11:07 - Antoine teaches us about Connecticut's best rivers. The Housatonic River is a beautiful river that offers excellent fishing in the fall and spring. Summer pike and bass fishing in Housatonic are fantastic. It's double the size of the Farmington. The Farmington is Connecticut's most well-known river. Click here for a list of the top 15 fly fishing locations in Connecticut. 15:14 - He explains why Farmington is the number one river to visit in Connecticut. To fish the Farmington, he advises starting from the section between New Hartford and Riverton. He mentions a guidebook to fishing the Farmington by the Farmington River Anglers Association. 20:02 - If you're going to hit dry flies in the Farmington River, the best month would be from the end of May to July. He also mentions the bugs present at this time. 22:53 - His off-season patterns are typically some form of crippled or handicapped bug. He mentions a fly that looks identical to it. A fly created by Yannick that he claims is hard to sink also works well for him. 29:00 - He gives more dry fly tips and tricks. He says that a good fly is nothing else but a good cast. 33:20 - We talk about his leader setup and other gear in detail. 40:44 - Antoine highly recommends Bestard boots for wading. 44:47 - He discusses the Magic CDC, a new CDC on the market that is not yet accessible in the United States. 46:37 - He uses a semi-automatic reel from Peux Fly Fishing, notably the Fulgor 01 which is also available at the Tactical Fly Fisher. He explains the difference between an automatic and semi-automatic reel. 51:40 - I ask him questions from our listeners about the rod and reel combo for fresh and saltwater and streamer fishing. 53:51 - He provides additional useful dry fly fishing tips and tricks. He recounts using a CDC fly called berzilleuse, which Yannick named for himself. 57:05 - He tells the secret of a good dry fly cast. 59:50 - He does fishing sessions with Orvis. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/494

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/493 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee, Mavrk Fly Fishing Alex Czayka is here with us today to give us a glimpse into Western Reserve Land Conservancy. We find out how Alex's journey into fly fishing and his passion for the outdoors led him to a career in conservation. Tune in to learn about conservation challenges, significant projects, and the vibrant hunting and fishing culture in Ohio. Show Notes with Alex Czayka 02:30 - Alex's venture into fly fishing took root during his late teens in Northeast Ohio, where his background in hunting and fishing farm ponds evolved into a passion for fly fishing, thanks to the influence of his brother. 04:00 - Alex's journey into conservation started with a biology degree at Kent State for his undergraduate studies, followed by obtaining a Master of Science in Wetland Ecology from SUNY Brockport. His love for the outdoors and desire to turn his passion into a career led him to roles at Nature Conservancy and Western Reserve Land Conservancy. 06:23 - We hear the distinctions between Alex's experiences at Nature Conservancy and Western Reserve Land Conservancy. 08:29 - We hear the story of the Cuyahoga River, famously known for catching fire, which tarnished Cleveland's reputation and led to the implementation of significant environmental regulations. 10:27 - Alex discusses the major challenges in natural resource conservation that we are currently facing. Additionally, he also provides insights into the work that they do. 21:00 - Alex tells us about some of the projects they have been involved in. He highlights a recent partnership with Lake Metroparks, focusing on acquiring and protecting property at risk of being heavily forested. 26:37 - Alex discusses their conservation efforts targeting specific species, such as the Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake. 32:18 - The Western Reserve Land Conservancy, with over 50 employees, stands as one of the largest land trusts in the United States. 43:30 - According to Alex, Ohio boasts a robust hunting and fishing culture, with Lake Erie notably yielding an impressive stock of walleye. 44:40 - The significance of steelhead was also highlighted in our recent episode with Dan Pribanic of Chagrin River Outfitters, who mentioned their importance for local businesses like his shop. 51:12 - Alex is a big fan of the MeatEater Podcast. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/493

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/492 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today, Steve Smith, creator of Smitty's Fly Box, takes us through the journey of crafting one of the finest fly-tying boxes in the world. Steve recalls his childhood, a time when he had all-access to Indiana basketball in the 80s when his father was the assistant coach alongside the iconic coach Bobby Knight. From his family's relocation to Logan, Utah to establishing a fly shop and subsequent sourcing of fly-tying materials, Steve's story is as interesting as the flies he ties. He gives an insider look into his fly-tying companies, Round Rocks and Smitty's Fly Box. He also talks about his experiences teaching fly fishing at Utah State University, painting a vivid picture of his dynamic journey. Show Notes with Steve Smith on Smitty's Fly Box (02:00) Fly Fishing and Round Rocks - Steve got into fly fishing with his dad and grandpa when he was a kid, and his earliest memories of fishing for bluegill in Indiana. He shares his experience with the legendary basketball coach Bobby Knight when his dad was an assistant coach for Knight's championship team in 1987. Steve talks about what it was like to be around Indiana basketball in the 80s, and the big players on the team. He shares the story behind the founding of Round Rocks. (09:09) From Basketball to Fishing - Steve's passion for fly fishing was sparked by his dad and grandpa taking him fishing for bluegill when he was a kid. His dad then moved the family to Logan, Utah, and started a fly shop there. Steve and his dad made contact with a fly-tying factory in China and got a deal with Sportsman's Warehouse, a chain of 130 stores nationwide. They transitioned from the factory in China to the factory in Thailand and Steve stays connected with the people there. Steve also teaches fly fishing classes at Utah State University and has a new venture, Smitty's Fly Box. (20:57) Bobby Knight, Fly Fishing Influences - Steve's father was a basketball coach at a small school, West Side High School in Dayton, Idaho. Bobby Knight was hosting coaching clinics in the area and asked Steve's dad to take him fly fishing. Steve's dad obliged, drawing Bobby Knight a map of the area and taking him to the Madison River to fish. A few years later, when Bobby Knight won the NCAA National Championship in 1981, he called Steve's dad and asked him to be his assistant coach. They packed up and moved to Indiana, and Steve was six at the time. We also discuss Isaiah Thomas, one of the greatest point guards of all time, and how his time with Bobby Knight shaped him into a hard-nosed ball player. (32:33) - Fly Tying and Materials Discussion - We discuss the beginner and intermediate fly-tying boxes, the patterns they contain, and the materials we use. We explore the story of Whiting Farms, run by Tom Whiting, and how he has revolutionized hackle for dry flies. We also touch on our plans to transition and spread the word about our Round Rocks and Smitty's fly boxes. (45:49) - Exploring Rivers and Fly Tying - Steve's father plays an important role in his fly-fishing journey and his teaching. We discuss Steve's home water, the Logan River, and how it connects to Salt Lake. We also talk about the number of flies the company produces each year, which is in the millions. Lastly, we look at the evolution of fly fishing and how Steve's father is open to new ideas and techniques. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/492

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/491 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we dive into the exciting world of Olympic Peninsula fly fishing. Join us as we explore the diverse fish species you can encounter in this region, uncover popular tourist spots that offer incredible fishing opportunities, and get an insider's perspective on the renowned Waters West Fly Shop. We'll also discuss their viral Instagram reel, where they demonstrate the art of casting using the Ahrex Flexistripper. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a beginner looking to delve into the world of fly fishing, this podcast episode is packed with valuable insights and insider tips that you won't want to miss. Fly Fishing Olympic Peninsula Show Notes with Ed Fuhrken and Kyle McCurdy 1:12 - In episode 337, we welcomed Ed and Kyle on the podcast to discuss about surf perch fly fishing. 4:02 - We talk about their viral Instagram reel where Kyle made a cast using the game-changing Ahrex Flexistripper. The reel has now more than a million views. 8:27 - They give us an update on what keeps them busy in the Olympic Peninsula this time of year. They usually catch sea-run cutthroats in the summer. 14:18 - We dig into the movement of sea-run cutthroats in the OP. The months of September through November are ideal for getting away from the crowds on the river because most people are out looking for salmon in the fall. 17:10 - Ed's pet species are the king salmon and steelhead. In the OP, the same spot where you catch steelheads is the same one where you can catch kings. 20:07 - Kyle's main focus for July and August is beach fishing for sea-run cutthroats as he doesn't need to dedicate an entire day to do this. He can just go beach fishing right after work. 21:14 - Kyle looks forward to September and October as well, especially when it rains in September. According to Kyle, it could be the most incredible fishing experience you've ever had. 22:05 - When fishing for kings, they use a 12ft 9wt spey rod, specifically the Pieroway Renegade by Jerry French and Skagit lines. 24:31 - They give some tips on coho fishing. Typically, it's stripping streamers and sink tips. 25:40 - Right around Thanksgiving, that's when they start fishing for steelhead. 28:52 - We talk about lake fishing in the OP. 32:40 - For spring king, which is notoriously challenging to catch on the fly, the rivers in the OP open out around May. After the winter, trout fishing in the spring can be excellent as the water temperature drops. 33:42 - They walk us through the steps when someone comes to their shop in August to fish for cutthroat in the salt. Their go-to flies are Delia's Cohead Squid, Muddler Minnow, and Wounded Sculpin. 36:26 - They recommend bringing a stripping basket or the Ahrex Felxistrip when beach fishing in the OP to keep your line on the water. 37:35 - We go further into casting on the beach. 40:28 - Other species like flounder, pink salmon, black rockfish, and spiny dogfish are mentioned as being caught on the beach. 46:44 - We discuss other tourist attractions in the Olympic Peninsula. 49:19 - I ask about the other species in the OP that are like the surf perch. 50:30 - We dig into the flies they have in the shop. You can find their flies available through their online store. 55:23 - The vise they use are from Renzetti and Regal. We had Lily Renzetti, President of Renzetti Inc., in episode 486 where we talked about the company's humble beginnings. 56:20 - They tell about their friend who is bass-crazy. He has scouted every lake he can get to fish for largemouth bass. 57:29 - For hitting chinooks, it depends on the weather. When the heavy rains start, the salmon and chinooks rush in. 1:03:33 - We talk about the Elwha River. 1:05:26 - Lake Crescent is a special place for them. It is one of Washington's deepest lakes with a maximum depth of 624 feet. It has two endemic fish species, the Crescenti Cutthroat and Beardslee trout. 1:07:12 - Their favorite restaurants in their area are Spruce, Crab Shack, and Barhop. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/491

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/490 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Justin Lovell, a resident of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, has a deep passion for both powerlifting and fly fishing. With an unwavering dedication to physical strength and a love for the peacefulness of the outdoors, he finds joy in these two diverse pursuits. Whether he's lifting heavy weights or casting his line into the serene waters, Justin embraces the unique blend of power and tranquility that powerlifting and fly fishing offer, making him a true adventurer at heart. 00:05 - Justin shared the fly fishing opportunities in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia such as casting for Atlantic salmon in the Margaree River or targeting brook trout in secluded mountain streams. 03:23 - We talked about Justin Lovell's social media, and you can check out his accounts here, as well as on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Youtube, and Podbean. 04:30 - Justin shared that Cape Brenton, Nova Scotia, boasts unique features such as lobster fishing, coal mining, and the Cabot Trail, making it a unique and diverse island. 06:18 - Justin passionately highlighted the world-class fly fishing opportunities nestled along the iconic Margaree River, where anglers can pursue the thrill of catching Atlantic salmon and immerse themselves in the tranquility of Cape Breton's landscape. 07:36 - Justin mentioned several lodges in the area, including glamping, Big Interval Lodge, Brown's and Ross's cabins, and various other options. He mentioned that they offer a cool spot for life purposes and can be accessed around the margarita. 08:16 - Justin shared that despite the common perception of him being a dedicated salmon angler, he actually prefers fishing for brook trout. He humorously mentioned that he's known for his passion for dry fly fishing, which leads to playful teasing from his friends who favor streamers. He emphasized his preference for catching numerous small trout on dry flies over targeting one big brook trout using streamer patterns. Justin clarified that he doesn't dislike streamers but has a genuine love for the art of dry fly fishing. 10:45 - Justin shared that Bras d'Or Lakes offer a unique fishing opportunity with a variety of fish, including striped bass, brown trout, rainbow trout, Brook trout, perch, flatfish, and mackerel. This unique fishing opportunity provides a diverse range of fish for those seeking a unique fishing experience. 11:45 - Justin, a weightlifter, had no outdoor experience until 27 years ago when he fell during a squat and crushed his lower back. He tried to fly fishing at home but was criticized for breaking threads. He eventually bought a fly rod and went out, but accidentally got the hook stuck in his ear. Justin advises others to take time to learn and improve their skills. 12:56 - Jusin learned fly fishing by going with older guys and learning from their experiences. He found some information correct and others wrong, but as he progressed, he began listening to podcasts and other tips to identify areas for improvement. 13:34 - Justin advises beginners to initially learn fly fishing independently, focusing on casting and mastering essential skills like fly line tying, backing attachment, and leader connection. He simplifies casting techniques, underscores the significance of proper methods and gear, and offers guidance to enhance skills and enjoyment in fishing. 14:22 - After three years of starting fly fishing, Justin embraced the guiding principle for learning, recognizing the importance of opportunities. He was open about his limitations and began guiding advanced individuals, forming close friendships, and gaining insights from clients. Over time, he contemplated sharing his guiding expertise through teaching. 16:43 - Justin mentions the North River and Baddeck River, which hold salmon, and Bras d'Or Lakes occasionally receive a run of salmon. 18:38 - Justin mentioned Cape Breton's numerous fishing spots, including the Cabot trail, which boasts massive Brook Trout. He emphasized the importance of visiting for daybreak, as it is a challenging hike. The area is worth the effort, as it offers numerous opportunities for fishing. 20:11 - We discussed a mixed topic, focusing on Brook Trout. When planning a trip, Justin recommends targeting late May to early June for prime fishing, especially for large Brook Trout. However, July to September offers dry fly fishing, with some variability due to weather conditions. 24:33 - Justin shifted away from Salmon Fishing, barely guiding for them last year and not at all this year. Surprisingly, this year has witnessed the highest fish catch in the last four years, with people landing up to four fish a day, a significant improvement compared to the usual one or none. 27:32 - Justin used to prepare a list of questions for his podcast interviews, but he now takes a more spontaneous approach. He aims to understand the interviewee's fishing style

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/489 Presented By: Dette Flies, Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today we explore the extraordinary life of Zane Grey, a literary giant whose legacy resonates to this day. In this episode, we'll unravel Grey's passion for fly fishing, his iconic works, and his intriguing connections. Ed Meyer, Archivist at ZGWS, who was once the Vice-President, shares his insider perspective on Grey's journey. Our exploration continues through Grey's fishing escapades on the Rouge and the Umpqua Rivers with his brother R.C., shaping his love for the outdoors. The ZGWS Archives offer a glimpse into Grey's fly fishing odyssey, highlighted by works like "Rogue River Feud" and "Tales of Freshwater Fishing," which immortalize his adventures. Moving beyond his novels, Grey's prowess in outdoor articles comes to the fore. We also venture into the dynamic friendship between Grey and Ernest Hemingway, unpacking their differing writing styles and vices. Discover Grey's literary gems, from "Riders of the Purple Sage" to "The Vanishing American," each a testament to his enduring impact. Join us as we journey through the pages of history, revealing hidden anecdotes like Dolly's secret savings that led to the founding of Zane Grey Inc. As we immerse ourselves in Grey's world, the past and present intertwine, painting a vivid portrait of a remarkable man. Show Notes with Ed Meyer on Zane Grey Books 04:00 - Ed is the Archivist at ZGWS. He used to be the Vice-President. 04:30 - Zane Grey is one of the biggest authors in the world. We hear the story of how Zane Grey got into fly fishing. 08:55 - Zane Grey passed away in 1939. 10:20 - We talk about how Zane used to fish the Rouge and the Umpqua Rivers with his brother R.C. 11:40 - Ed noted the page at ZGWS Archives dedicated to Zane Grey's fly fishing history. 12:50 - Ed noted the books, Rogue River Feud and Tales of Freshwater Fishing. 14:00 - Aside from novels, Zane Grey's biggest success initially were magazines around the country. He wrote articles about the outdoors. 15:00 - Ed noted ZG's most famous book and movie, Riders of the Purple Sage. 20:10 - Roping Lions in the Grand Canyon was a fact-based novel. 26:50 - Ed talks about Zane Grey and Ernest Hemingway's friendship. He also talks about their difference in writing style. 31:10 - Hemingway was an alcoholic and Grey was into women. 43:40 - Grey's most famous book about Native Americans is The Vanishing American. 50:20 - The book that made Grey first famous was The Heritage of the Desert. 50:30 - Ed also noted The Rainbow Trail which was about Rainbow Bridge. 56:00 - Ed tells the story of how Dolly saved up money without Zane knowing about it. 1:00:20 - Ed tells the story of when Grey had a stroke on the Umpqua River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/489

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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/488 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Dette Flies, Waters West, Angler's Coffee Today on the Littoral Zone with Phil Rowley, we cover part two of our in-depth discussion on making sense of stillwater fly lines. In Part 1, Phil revealed seven of the twenty fly lines that make up his kit. And today, we unwrap the remaining lines, break it all down, and lock in on the crucial trio Phil swears by – the three primary lines you should never hit the water without. Making Sense of Stillwater Fly Lines Show Notes 04:33 - If you listened to Part 1, you heard Phil Rowley break down the goal of this dynamic two-part series on stillwater fly lines, which is to provide an understanding of why you need multiple lines to be consistently successful on lakes. 10:02 - By the end of the first part, Phil revealed seven out of twenty fly lines that make up his kit. Today, we complete the list and discover the three primary lines Phil recommends having in your arsenal whenever you hit the water. Sinking Lines 11:15 - For most people fishing lakes, sinking lines are often the go-to choice due to the deeper water depths where trout predominantly feed on subsurface prey. 12:17 - The horizontal retrieve path that sinking lines provide mimics the way many of the natural food sources trout feed upon move. 12:45 - Lakes can be windy, affecting both casting and presentation. Wind-induced surface chop can disrupt floating line presentations. Longer leaders used in these conditions can lead to casting issues like tailing loops and knots, causing frustration and hindering successful angling. 14:59 - Grains are a unit of measure used to help determine line weight so you match the fly line to the correct weight of the rod. The American Fly Tackle Manufacturers Association set a standard that the grains measured over the first 30ft of a fly line are used to determine the line weight. 17:46 - Density compensation addresses the uneven tungsten powder distribution that caused U-shaped sinking profiles in early double taper lines. With density compensation, the line sinks tip first, eliminating the curved profile and enhancing bite detection. Hover Lines 26:11 - A hover line generally sinks at approximately one inch per second, although exact rates may vary among manufacturers. These lines are commonly not density compensated. Clear Intermediates 30:47 - Clear intermediate lines sink a little faster in the hover, anywhere from one and a half to two inches per second, depending on the manufacturer. Like the hover, this is ideal in windy conditions because it will get below that surface chop yet not sink fast enough. Faster Sinking Lines 33:50 - While line type usually corresponds to sink rate, factors like water density can subtly influence sinking speed. Faster sink rate lines are used for getting into much deeper water. Sweep or Parabolic Lines 37:27 - Another type of line that's come into the market recently and gaining popularity is the sweep or parabolic line. These are lines that have sections of different sink rates along their length, which encourages an exaggerated U-shape retrieve path. Hang Markers 44:00 - A common feature on many sinking lines today is the hang marker, a physical marker on the line. Hang markers can be added manually using Dacron-based bobber stoppers, slid onto the line, and secured through a tug. 48:00 - Monofilament lines commonly exhibit memory issues, regardless of the manufacturer. 53:00 - Phil provides valuable insights into efficiently changing fly lines while on the water. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/488

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/487 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory In today's episode, Destiny Egley reveals why the Lava Hot Springs is an essential stop on any road trip. Discover the secrets behind their impressively low costs and also learn how and why they do the no-sulfur hot springs. Be amazed by the hidden gems that make Lava Hot Springs a true traveler's delight. Lava Hot Springs Show Notes with Destiny Egley 02:21 - Destiny's roots stretch back to Utah. Two decades ago, she embarked on a new chapter in Idaho alongside her husband, who was born and raised in Lava Hot Springs. Initially, Destiny worked at a local grocery store upon their arrival. When a position opened up at Lava, she seized the opportunity and dedicated the last 20 years to her role there. 03:23 - The Lava Hot Springs Foundation is a state-owned facility. They are the only agency within the state of Idaho that is self-funded, and they operate their facilities on admission fees. 06:00 - Destiny highlights the reason behind their world-famous reputation, emphasizing the absence of sulfur in their pristine waters. They have over two and a half million gallons of crystal-clear water coursing through their five pools every 24 hours. The pool temperatures vary from 112 to 102 degrees. 08:03 - Destiny takes genuine pride in the impeccable cleanliness of their facility. And on top of all that, what sets them apart is their commitment to keeping rates affordable compared to other hot springs. 10:00 - We're gearing up for a trip to Henry's Fork in October. 11:12 - In addition, Bear Lake is another remarkable destination, situated just a few hours away from their location. Bear Lake offers fantastic fishing opportunities for cutthroat trout, lake trout, yellow perch, and mountain whitefish. 13:00 - The Olympic Swimming Complex & Indoor Aquatic Center is a summer facility featuring water slides, diving boards, diving towers, and basketball. Aside from that, they also have a year-round 25-yard indoor pool that boasts a rock-climbing wall, a diving board, and a relaxing hot tub. 16:17 - Destiny talks about some of the other things you can do in their area, including a ziplining tour, Lava Go-Karts, shopping, and an upcoming brewery. 21:00 - Destiny and her husband own a Polaris General UTV, their go-to vehicle for exploring off-duty. They enjoy fishing at Chesterfield Reservoir, a 45-minute drive from Lava. 27:26 - Amidst all the incredible reasons, I asked Destiny about any downsides to living there. 41:47 - Blackfoot is another fantastic stop featuring the Idaho Potato Museum. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/487

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/486 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee, Smitty's Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Lily Renzetti is here to tell you the entire Renzetti fly tying vise story and how they've been setting the standard for the past 50 years. We learn how it all began with an idea to make fly tying easier. We also look at some of their current ambassadors as well as some of the big names who are utilizing Renzetti across the country. We also learn why the traveler vise has been such a major changer throughout the year and continues to be a go-to vise. We also learn what's next for Renzetti. Renzetti Fly Tying Vise Show Notes with Lily Renzetti 2:56 - Lily gives us a fascinating summary of how Renzetti was built. Her husband, Andy Renzetti, was working as a machinist at that time at a local shop in Romansville PA. With the help of his brother, they were able to design the Presentation 3000 which was the very first vise that was introduced by Renzetti and retailed by Orvis. 5:51 - In 1988, they introduced the Traveler series and Presentation 4000. 9:27 - It has been 50 years since they introduced the Presentation 3000. For her, it has been a beautiful journey not only building a business but also building relationships with their customers and other people in the industry. 14:37 - Before Renzetti, Andy was using the Thompson A vise back then. The HMH vises were also available at that time. 15:23 - The true rotary concept was introduced by Renzetti. 17:17 - Lily tells us the current patents they have. They have also been designing and manufacturing rod-building equipment since the early '80s. 21:09 - I ask her what are the biggest difference she sees in the fly-tying market over the years since they started. 25:30 - She gives her opinion on other companies making vises that are similar to theirs. 28:40 - Currently, they have about 25 ambassadors which consist of legends such as Bob Popovics and Bob Clouser. Kelly Galloup is also one of them. He had him in the podcast in episodes 052 and 167. 32:15 - They find the best people to be their ambassadors regardless of their race and sexual orientation. 34:26 - Lily tells us about her journey to the US. She was born and raised in Venezuela and came to the US for college. She went to St. Joseph University in Philadelphia and took up a major in business and a minor in industrial relations. He got involved in the business with Andy in 1987. 40:06 - She is thankful to their team for consistently making everything happen and producing products that are up to the standards they set from the very beginning. 42:00 - Just this year, they introduced the Renzetti Tool Bar, Renzetti Tool Bar Station, and the Green Master Series Vise with extended crank arm, hinged stem, and streamer base. The last one won a prize at the ICAST as one of the best in the category. 46:58 - We talk about the purpose of the Bobbin Cradle. 54:05 - In buying your first vise, she recommends starting with their Traveler first. It holds the hook securely and offers true rotary features. They also have accessories that they designed for the Traveler which makes it versatile. 59:40 - She recommends subscribing to their YouTube channel @Renzetti to learn about their products and the true rotary concept. 1:01:07 - I ask her about retirement and their plans for the company. Andy has already retired, but he still goes to the office and trains their staff on the operations. 1:04:50 - She shares Andy's favorite quote which goes "There is a better way. Find it." and the inspiring story of how he persevered despite being underprivileged and having a learning disability growing up. 1:09:04 - She explains the qualities they look for in brand ambassadors. 1:11:53 - She brought the Casting for Recovery to Florida. They have also been supporting the Tunnel to Towers Foundation (T2T). They give to T2T for every vise they sell. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/486

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/485 Presented By: Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Dette Flies, Smitty's Fly Box Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Step into the world of fly fishing and outdoor exploration with Ed, an experienced angler and writer, as he shares his journey in this episode. We start by learning about Ed's involvement with the Cape Piscatorial Society and his contributions to the Piscator Journals. He offers his thoughts on Tenkara rods, providing a fresh perspective on their use. Ed also discusses his book, "The Delicate Fly Fisher," giving us a sneak peek into its various chapters that cover everything from fly tying to embracing the approach of small stream fishing. Amid the angling discussions, Ed opens up about the challenges posed by a health condition that affected his balance and limited his fishing activities. He provides valuable tips for successful fishing trips, stressing the significance of appropriate gear, staying hydrated, and maintaining a stealthy approach. Beyond fishing, Ed takes us through his broadcasting career and even touches on historical figures like Nelson Mandela. Along the way, he recommends several books, reflects on notable anglers like Joe Humphreys, and explores intriguing concepts such as Gary LaFontaine's theory of attraction. This episode offers a well-rounded blend of angling insights, personal stories, and outdoor wisdom. Show Notes with Ed Herbst on The Delicate Fly Fisher 05:00 - Ed joined the Cape Piscatorial Society in his mid-30s. He also wrote for Piscator Journals. 09:45 - Ed talks about what he thinks about Tenkara rods 12:00 - Ed wrote a book called, The Delicate Fly Fisher. He talks about its chapters. 20:25 - Gary Borger was on the podcast in episode 045 21:45 - Ed noted how Sage came up with the Ought-wt fly rod. 26:15 - "Small stream Ethos is a visual form of fly fishing". Ed explains how and why. 37:30 - Ed talks about the disease he has that took away his balance, which also is one of the reasons why he couldn't fish anymore. 41:40 - Jeff Morgan wrote a book about Small-Stream Fly Fishing. Jeff Morgan was on the podcast at WFS 120. 42:00 - Ed also noted Jeff's book, Productive Trout Flies for Unorthodox Prey: The Oddballs. Ed tells us what he loves most about that book. 46:00 - Ed breaks down the stuff to keep in mind when going on a fishing trip. 53:45 - Ed talks about his broadcasting career being a reporter. 56:00 - We talk about Nelson Mandela, former President of South Africa. 1:04:30 - Ed noted the book, Trout From Small Streams by Dave Hughes. 1:07:15 - Ed noted the book, Fly Fishing Outside the Box: Emerging Heresies 1:10:15 - We recently had Geri Meyer out of the Driftless Anglers at WFS 468. 1:14:30 - The main species they target in Cape Town are browns and rainbows. 1:17:00 - Ed's go-to fly rod is a 7-foot 2-wt/3-wt. 1:17:30 - Ed noted that video of Joe Humphreys fishing small streams. 1:29:45 - Ed talks about Gary LaFontaine's theory of attraction. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/485

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/484 Presented by: Mavrk Fly Fishing (code: mavrkwfs20) Use the coupon code: mavrkwfs20 and get 20% off your next order. Jeff Sasaki takes us into Mavrk fishing and what it's like to build a massive brand in the cellphone accessories business. He also tells us why he transferred to producing unique fly fishing gear. We also discover how to fish dries with a euro nymphing setup, how Newton's law affects your cast, and his take on the center axis fly reel. Mavrk Fishing Show Notes with Jeff Sasaki 2:43 - Jeff gives us an update since we last had him in episode 415. The main thing is they are expanding their rod line that is yet to be launched. 3:20 - He further discusses the advantages of the new rod line they'll launch that will be longer and lighter. 9:47 - We dig into product design and development. His degree and background were in product design. Before Mavrk, he started a brand called Element Case. 11:17 - Jeff explains industrial design, graphic design, and engineering. 15:35 - We return to the fascinating account of how he founded Element Case. 17:32 - He tells a humorous tale about how Apple once misplaced a prototype in a bar. He considered creating a case for the iPhone 4 at that time because it had just gone viral. Their instances gained widespread attention, and they received so many orders that the server had to shut down their website. 28:28 - He eventually decided to sell the brand. He realized he was not interested in the consumer electronics industry, took a break, and made Mavrk happen. 31:53 - He explains the lessons he learned while creating the Element Case and launching Mavrk. He reached a point with Element where he was unable to accomplish what he enjoyed doing with Element, such as creating and chatting with clients. 35:02 - I ask him how he would have kept the Element small. 36:28 - For Mavrk, he wants to keep the company small. 39:02 - He gives some advice and tips for those who want to create a product for the outdoors like talking to somebody who has an idea about the product, preferably an industrial designer who knows a thing about the materials, the manufacturing, and the industry. 45:20 - He discusses the Diffusion of Innovation (DOI) Theory and the five adopter categories when promoting a new product or service to a target population. 49:22 - He tells about that time, early on for Mavrk, when they launched on Kickstarter which he says was a mistake. 53:15 - He talks about graphene, which is utilized in Formula One cars. 54:46 - He gives some advice about the fly fishing industry that might help those who want to introduce a new product. 1:03:39 - He encourages people to learn how to write a business plan. He recommends the book titled "How to Write a Business Plan" by Mike McKeever. 1:06:18 - He believes that being a product designer allows him to be near to the things he enjoys, like when he designed a Fox Racing helmet for Ricky Carmichael. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/484

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/483 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Angler's Coffee, Bearvault, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, we get up close and personal with the minds behind Echo Fly Fishing: Tim Rajeff, Jarrod Black, and Jamie Hixson. We hear the story of how Echo was founded and discover how they crafted some of the world's toughest, most durable rods. Plus, find out why Tim chose to pass the Echo torch to Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Join us for this inspiring episode that celebrates not only the art of fly fishing but also the lasting friendships it creates. Echo Fly Fishing Show Notes 03:21 - Echo Fly Fishing was established in 2001 by Tim Rajeff alongside Jarod and Katherine. Jamie Hixson joined the Echo team later in 2005, but his friendship with Jarrod dates back even before that. 04:40 - We hear the story behind Tim's decision to stick with Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Tim remains an integral part of Echo Fly Fishing, dedicating his expertise to what he does best – rod design. 07:30 - Jarrod and Tim's partnership traces back to their 15-year stint at G. Loomis Fishing Rods before they founded Rajeff Sports to distribute Airflo Fly Lines. Their collaboration with Airflo lasted for 20 years until they decided to part ways in August 2020. Meet the Echo Team Jarrod Black 12:34 - Jarrod lived in an industrial town in Washington where there was a huge manmade lake. He and Jamie would use hotdog buns on a fly rod to target and catch carp. 16:50 Jarrod shares that the lack of affordable and quality fly gear influenced his decision to work at G. Loomis. When Echo was founded, it became a priority for him to make fly fishing more accessible to more people. Jamie Hixson 18:00 - Feeling burned out from his project manager role at a steel manufacturer and his 3D modeling job, Jamie reached out to Jarrod, who offered him a part-time position at Echo, which quickly turned into a full-time role. Now, with 18 years under his belt at Echo, Jamie's engineering background has proven invaluable as he and Tim work together to design exceptional Echo products. Tim Rajeff 23:20 - Despite growing up in a non-fly fishing town in California, Tim was just a short 5-minute walk away from the renowned Golden Gate Angling and Casting Club, where the foundations of modern fly fishing equipment were developed. Alongside his brother, who became a world casting champion, they had already been fishing when they stumbled upon the club and discovered a passion for the sport. Echo Fly Rods 26:23 - The Echo team shares valuable insights about their target customer and how they succeeded in creating rods at a lower price point. They take us behind the scenes of their rod conceptualization process. Additionally, we dive into the Shadow X Fly Rod, a product developed in collaboration with Pete Erickson for competition use. 43:40 - We get to the heart of the matter and ask the Echo team about the secret behind their durable rods. 52:00 - We also explore the evolution of Echo Fly Fishing's rods and the common reasons a rod would break. Tim emphasizes that most rods break at the tip. Because of this, his team set up a program where you can easily request a replacement tip online. 1:10:40 - During our conversation, the Echo team shares the inspiration and concept that gave birth to their iconic logo. 1:13:20 - Tim reveals the secret behind the Micro Practice Rod, which he shares was inspired by Joan and Lee Wulff's Fly-O. 1:17:00 - Of course, we seize the opportunity to learn casting tips from the master himself, Tim Rajeff. We dive into the double haul technique and explore valuable insights on how to improve our casting skills. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/483

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/482 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Daiichi, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us for an awesome episode as we catch up with Riverhorse - an angler, writer, filmmaker, musician, surfer, and Patagonia Fly Fish Ambassador. Having been on our podcast twice before, we'll delve into his recent film projects with Patagonia and his other exciting ventures. We discover how you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters through SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org. Beyond his wilderness pursuits, Riverhorse talks about how he leads the Editorial of a magazine called, ToneQuest Report Magazine, featuring contributions from rockstars and musicians. Riverhorse talks about his upcoming fly fishing book filled with essays and adventure stories and also talks about the impact of music on people's lives. Plus, a bonus poetry read at the end! Stay tuned for that! Show Notes with Riverhorse Nakadate 03:00 - Riverhorse had been on the podcast twice at WFS 80 and WFS 266. We talked about saving the Boundary Waters. 03:10 - Riverhorse talks about his most recent film projects with Patagonia and others. 06:50 - He noted a project he did with Patagonia called, It's All Home Water - A Northern Light which resulted in a mining ban for 20 years. 08:45 - We encourage people to explore SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org for the latest updates and discover ways you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters. 11:50 - Riverhorse is now running the ToneQuest Report Magazine after his friend who used to run it passed away. A lot of other rockstars and musicians contribute to the magazine. Check out their editorial board here. 13:30 - We noted the song, You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive by Darrell Scott. 18:40 - Riverhorse has been stories for Fly Fish Journal. They just issued a recent one called, HEARTLAND DRIFTING: A MINNESOTA PICARESQUE. 19:15 - Riverhorse is writing a fly fishing book with essays and adventure stories that he's been saving up. 20:45 - We had John Gierach on the podcast twice. His recent one is WFS 434. 25:00 - He noted Erin Block who's a female angler and fly fishing writer. Check out her stuff here. 28:00 - Riverhorse talks about how his mom taught him to communicate his feelings honestly. 30:10 - We talk about how to stay optimistic when it comes to conservation. 37:30 - Riverhorse talks about Jeff Liskay and their adventures together. 39:10 - Jeff Liskay is now part of our podcast with his own series The Great Lakes Dude. 46:00 - We hear the story of when Yvon Chouinard wrote Riverhorse a touching letter of appreciation. 47:00 - We had Craig Matthews on the podcast at WFS 427. 52:30 - Riverhorse talks about his poem, Cloud Burst. Listen to his poetry read starting at 55:10. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/482

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/481 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, the Dude Jeff Liskay chats with one of the best shallow-water fly anglers, Dave Hurley. They connected because of their love for the freshwater Drum. They think it's a cool fish with its chicken feathers but interestingly enough, some people call it "trash fish". Now Dave joins our show today to talk about why these fish are great to target. Dave is a skinny water specialist that runs skinny water safari guide service. Dave roams the backwater of the Great Lakes based on the Lower Peninsula, Michigan where he pulls his way through the miles of skinny water flats, sight-fishing for a wide variety of warm water species out of his towee boat. Show Notes with Dave Hurley on Skinny Water Fishing 04:00 - Dave joined a community of fly fishermen who fished in the surf along the Pacific where they fished for Corbina, Surfperch, and Croaker species. Dave got really into fishing for Spotfin Croaker. 06:00 - Dave found out that a stonefly nymph pattern works great for Spotfin Croakers. 09:00 - Dave talks about getting his first boat. 17:50 - He talks about the time when he and his best friend fished sight fished for musky on the flats. 18:40 - His go-to is a 6-wt rod and occasional 7-wt. 19:30 - Dave now focuses on carp fishing and goes up to 10-wt. For leader, he goes up to 15-pound test, and sometimes 12 or 10-pound. 27:25 - Dave doesn't really pay attention to water temperatures. He and his team are mostly sight fishing. 35:55 - We talk about casting. "Your short game is just as important as your long game", Dave says. 39:25 - Dave's favorite line is the SA Bass Bug Fly Line. 42:25 - Dave talks about how he improvises when he ties his flies, tying them differently each time. He also talks about the common materials he uses. 47:40 - Jeff's go-to flies always have rubber. 49:00 - Dave talks about how being an artist affects his creativity in fishing. 51:00 - Dave talks about how he practices handling fish in a way that doesn't hurt the fish. And also talks about how he tries in his own little ways to protect the waters he fishes. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/481

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for an epic adventure at the Lodge At Palisades Creek on the South Fork of the Snake River! Justin's got an awesome story to tell—from chef to fly fishing guide to running the lodge. We find out how they won the Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year and how Orvis has supported them along the way. We explore the river's stunning five sections, each stretchin' about 12 miles. We dive into the wild world of Yellowstone cutthroat and those rowdy rainbows, causing a stir in Idaho with bounties on their heads! We've got the lowdown on the Salmon fly, Goldenstone, and Caddis fly hatches—nature's showtime! Justin also shares valuable tips for all the DIY anglers out there and discusses the importance of river etiquette. Plus, a crazy story involving Dick Cheney's bodyguards and a sketchy civilian that came so close to a river shootout! Show Notes with Justin Hays on Lodge At Palisades Creek 03:00 - Justin tells the story of how he transitioned from being a chef to being a fly fishing guide to managing a lodge. 06:50 - Justin talks about how partnering with Orvis has provided so much support to them in every aspect along the way. 08:20 - We talk about Yellowstone cutthroat decreasing in numbers and the rainbows increasing, almost being considered invasive. As a result, the Idaho Fishing Game made it legal to catch and kill rainbows, making it a controversial topic in Idaho. IFG even put a bounty on rainbows. 12:50 - We are coming to the Southfork in Fall for Euro Nymphing School with Pete Erickson. 20:20 - We had an episode about the Henry's Fork Foundation with Brandon Hoffner at WFS 414. 23:15 - Trivia: Henry's Fork was originally called the North Fork. 27:40 - They divide the river into 5 sections. Each section is roughly 12 miles long. The 1st section has 5 access points. The 2nd and 3rd sections are the Canyon sections - Justin talks about the amazing campsites in these sections and how amazing it is to fish there. The 4th section begins in the town of Ririe. Read about these sections in detail here. 35:45 - You can visit MillerDriftBoats.com to rent a raft or a drift boat. 36:15 - Stonefly hatch lasts about 2 weeks. Justin talks about the Goldenstone hatch. In the summer they have a hopper season which ends in August. He also noted the Mutant Stonefly hatch - stoneflies that can't fly. And then they have some Dunns as September progresses. 41:50 - "The trick to the Salmon fly thing is throwing a large dry fly on 2x underneath a bush or a tree and twitching out and try to mimic the real lifecycle of an adult Salmonfly...", Justin explains in detail. 46:20 - Perdigons has been a game-changer for them in the last 2 years. 48:20 - Caddis fly hatch starts in mid-October. 48:55 - Pro tip for DIY anglers: "This river empties at 5 pm. You can have that river to yourself at 5 pm and it doesn't get dark until 10 pm." 52:30 - Justin is turning 55 this year. He started fishing in the Snake River when he was about 19 years old. 55:45 - We talk about river etiquette. 1:00:50 - Justin talks about how they won Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year. 1:06:55 - We noted that video by The New Fly Fisher highlighting the Lodge At Palisades Creek. Scroll down to watch the trailer. 👇🏻 1:07:20 - Their outfitting team mainly uses ClackaCraft Drift Boats. Justin talks about how they customized their boats and their great features. 1:11:30 - Justin recommends a 9-foot 6-wt rod. 1:13:13 - Justin noted a few restaurants and places around the area that has good food. 1:14:45 - Justin talks about Dick Cheney who's also a passionate fly angler. He tells a crazy story of when Dick's bodyguard suspected a civilian of being a threat and almost got shot. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/479 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Angler's Coffee, Trxstle, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Derek Darst is here to introduce us to the St. Joe River and some of his specialty fly patterns. We explore this lizard fly and some of his other unique flies as we look at his top flies for Idaho. We also learn where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout in his part of the world. Fly Fishing the St. Joe River Show Notes with Derek Darst 3:21 - Derek tells us how he got into fly fishing. He spent a lot of his time backcountry fly fishing with his father, and at the age of 10, he started learning how to tie flies. He now offers flies online through Saint Maries Flies. 5:33 - We dig into the St. Joe River and Saint Maries River which he says has a good Westslope cutthroat population. 9:10 - We find out where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout. 15:05 - He recommends some must-have fly patterns to catch some Westslope cutthroat trout, such as stimulator, elk hair, caddises, and royal wolf. One of his favorites is the Turks tarantula with a red body or burnt orange colored body. 18:28 - He takes us through the year through the St. Joe River. 21:12 - We talk about Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. A lot of people visit this area for the lakes. 22:25 - He gives us the key to finding some bull trout. I mention our episode with Dave Blackburn where he talked a bit about the regulations on targeting bull trout. 29:21 - He sells Pat Cohen patterns on his website. Pat was one of his big influences in fly tying. He quit selling flies and dedicated his time to tattoo artistry through his Instagram @rusuperfly. We had him in the podcast on episode 107. 30:20 - We dig into his fly tying. At first, he was self-taught, but then he bought some of Pat Cohen's videos to learn about deer hair. 31:52 - The most common flies he ties are the poppers, divers, and frogs. 34:14 - He gets his deer hair from North American Trading in Strum, Wisconsin. He looks for the thickest and longest hair. 38:48 - He also sells lizards for muskies and bass which are around nine to 10 inches long. He ties these for an hour at least. 43:28 - We talk about Westslope cutthroats. There are also a few rainbows in St. Joe River. 46:27 - He recommends the Huckleberry Campground. People mostly camp during summer in around July and August. 47:08 - We do some random rapid-fire questions. 49:09 - He shares about that time when Luke Bryan visited their town to fish. He performed live in Spokane and at the 2:15 minute mark of the video, he signed a board with Derek's flies on it and took the fly with him. 50:53 - He went to Florida, at Tampa Bay, a couple of months ago for a fishing trip. 53:06 - He did a video for Musky Town on tying deer hair diver and popper. 54:57 - He uses a lot of Kona Xtra Stong Stinger (XSS) hooks for his hair bugs. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/479

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/478 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Trxstle, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Patrick Berry takes us into Fly Fishers International and the resources you can utilize for fishing and conservation. We discover where locally you can get involved in sustaining your fishing and your fishery. We also find out which top national issues they are working on this year and the history of how it all started for Patrick and FFI. This is not just your ordinary fishing chat — it's an inspiring journey of passion, dedication, and making a difference. Fly Fishers International Show Notes with Patrick 03:00 - When it comes to conservation, names like Fly Fishers International and Trout Unlimited always come up. We've previously had Len Zickler on the show, and today we're diving into an exciting update on FFI with Patrick Berry. But first, we hear about how Patrick got into fly fishing. 04:00 - Patrick's earliest memories in life were of fish and fishing. Despite not having much growing up, he vividly recalls a camping trip with his family, where his father ingeniously crafted fishing rods out of sticks, strings, and safety pins as hooks while digging worms for bait. 08:20 - Patrick shares his journey into conservation work, which he describes as a common path for many fly fishers. He quotes the words of Lee Wulff, one of the founders of FFI, who famously said, "When you teach a person to fly fish, you have just created a conservationist." 10:14 - After years of trout bumming after college, Patrick got a job in a fly shop with Jeff Currier. He says reading Aldo Leopold's A Sand County Almanac inspired Patrick to pursue environmental science, focusing on freshwater ecology and fisheries. This marked the beginning of his remarkable conservation-focused career. 12:35 - After years in Montana, Patrick and his wife decided to return to Vermont, where he worked for the Vermont Natural Resources Council. He was later appointed head of Vermont's Fish and Wildlife Department. Fly Fishers International — Who Are They? 14:38 - Patrick Berry sees Fly Fishers International as an organization that is available to guide people on their fly fishing journey no matter what their skill level is, where they live, or what fish is their favorite to chase after. Fly Fishers International started with a focus on conservation, education, and community in the 1960s, and they've stayed true to their roots to this day. 15:00 - Fly Fishers International's most significant strength area is high-quality fly fishing education. The Casting Instructor Certification at FFI is considered a premier casting instructor program worldwide. 18:00 - Patrick shares his perspective on pressing issues today, such as climate change and more. According to Patrick, climate change movements sometimes fall short of providing information on how an average person can help make a difference. 35:40 - Patrick lets us in on FFI's conservation focus for the upcoming years. Their main goal is to keep providing conservation grants at the local level and collaborate closely with partners to tackle big-picture conservation challenges head-on. 41:17 - We also touch on the significance of technology and the role of famous personalities in driving change. 46:17 - Since our upcoming event is centered around the Great Lakes, I couldn't miss the opportunity to ask Patrick for his insights on the steelhead program in the region. 1:05:27 - Patrick is a music and podcast enthusiast, and he admits to having a dedicated playlist exclusively for The Avett Brothers' songs. Additionally, Patrick is a big fan of the SmartLess Podcast, especially the episode featuring George Clooney. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/478

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/477 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Trxstle, Mavrk Fly Fishing, Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Jeff Liskay is back on the podcast to take us back into Steelhead Alley this year with some bonuses and a big trip! We talk about what you can expect for that trip to Steelhead Alley with me, Jeff Liskay, Rick Kustich, and a bunch of other anglers, and why you should be excited about it! Jeff shares some great tips on casting, gear setup, and how to have a great day on the water. We also talk about Jeff's multispecies boat which has lots of awesome features. Stay tuned as announce the big winner live on Facebook for that Steelhead Alley trip! Show Notes with Jeff Liskay on Steelhead Alley 07:00 - You can check out all of the Great Lakes Dude's podcast episodes at wetflyswing.com/gld 10:30 - Jeff talks about fishing for drums, carp, and gars. He tells us how water temperatures affect fishing and what fishing looks like between now and December. 18:30 - We just had Rick Kustich back on the podcast to give us a little teaser on what we're going to be doing on that Steelhead Alley trip. 25:30 - Tip: "Do not be afraid to use your single-hand rod, or the spey line, or small switch rod, or do some indicator fishing for the day". 37:00 - Jeff talks about how he and his buddies mix things up with rod setup, lines, leader, tippet, flies, how they swing, etc. 45:00 - Jeff shares some awesome casting tips. 50:00 - "Your eyes are your best tool", Jeff says.. when it comes to fishing deep waters. He explains why. 52:00 - Tip: "Most good fishing locations are places you don't want to fish or are hard to get to". 1:00:45 - Tip: "Do not be afraid to drive to better river conditions than fight a bad water condition". 1:01:25 - Tip: "Play around with your leader or tippet". 1:07:45 - Jeff recommends the SA Spey Lite Skagit Line by Scientific Anglers. 1:12:12 - We talk about Jeff's 22-foot Ranger multispecies boat that has 5 fish finders and other awesome features. 1:14:30 - We'll be announcing the Steelhead School winner live on Facebook next week. So stay tuned and good luck! Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/477

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/476 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton, Togens Fly Shop, Waters West, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors The one and only Rick Kustich is ready to blow our minds today with all things modern spey fishing and some exciting updates, including his latest book. We're diving deep into the spey game, uncovering the early players, and getting all the juicy details on how Rick works his magic with flies on the Lake Erie tributaries. Rick and his crew will be our guides for the upcoming Steelhead Alley, so we'll also get an exclusive sneak peek of what awaits us on this thrilling adventure. Modern Spey Fishing Show Notes with Rick Kustich 03:00 - It's hard to believe it's only been a short while since our last episode with Rick in January 2022. Today he brings us up to speed on his latest adventures and a brand new book on Steelhead. 03:45 - Rick shares his insights on the unique steelhead experience in New York and what sets it apart from other Great Lakes locations. 05:38 - Rick Kustich aims to demystify spey fishing through his new book, Modern Spey Fishing. It covers everything from steelhead to trout and even smallmouth fishing, making it a valuable resource no matter your skill level. 08:39 - Rick paints a picture of what awaits us on our December trip to New York. According to Rick, New York's unique advantage over Ohio is its access to tributaries on both Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. 11:10 - Rick also provided a comprehensive rundown of the fishing techniques we'll use at that time of the year. 12:36 - Rick and his crew, along with Nick Pionessa, will be our guides for the upcoming Steelhead Alley. Additionally, Rick mentioned the potential participation of his good friend Vince Tobia from Cattaraugus Creek Outfitters as a third guide on the trip. Q & A with Rick 13:06 - Our Instagram followers join the conversation with their questions for Rick, and he eagerly takes on the challenge. What is the ideal water temperature for swinging for steelhead? 13:50 - The ideal water temperature for swinging for steelhead is between 42 to 56 degrees Fahrenheit. Rick says this temperature range is when the fish are most active. Additionally, Rick emphasizes that it's not solely about the absolute temperature but instead having more stable temperatures, where sudden overnight drops are avoided, which helps keep the fish more active. What is the Spey Nation Event? 18:44 - We delved into the topic of the Spey Nation event, originally a one-day spey clave started by Geoff Schaake, which had to be put on hold due to COVID. This time, Swing the Fly is bringing it back as a three-day event, scheduled from August 11 to August 13. 19:40 - Last year, Rick and Topher Brown collaborated with Swing the Fly to offer spey casting classes on the Salmon River. This year, they plan to integrate those classes with the traditional format of the Spey Nation event. How do you catch a fish on the fly in low clear water? 24:00 - When it comes to catching fish on the fly in low clear water, Rick suggests employing a stealthier approach. One effective strategy is to use a long monofilament or fluorocarbon leader and a weighted fly and cast the fly further away from the fly line. What's Rick Kustich's gear choice? 39:14 - Rick Kustich prefers using rods 11 to 12 1/2 feet long, recommending brands like Scott Fly Rods, R.B. Meiser, and Echo. Additionally, Rick has collaborated with Simon Gawesworth and RIO for several years, and he mentions that Simon wrote the forward for his new book. Rick uses RIO's Elite Skagit Max Launch. What's next for Rick? 47:13 - After putting in much effort to write Modern Spey Fishing, Rick looks forward to taking a break from books. However, he has big plans and hopes to write a book about trout someday. How do you detect the strike and ensure you don't miss a fish? 57:24 - Rick adopts a more passive approach when setting the hook, particularly for steelhead. In his book, he extensively discusses hook setting, recognizing it as a challenge many anglers face. 1:03:00 - We wrap up the conversation with Rick with his "desperate salmon story" in the York River. This tale is also featured in his book Reflections on the Water. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/476

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/475 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Ralph Scherder is here to take us fishing Pennsylvania and break down traveling and fishing in the north part of PA. We'll learn more about Route 6 and why you might be interested in taking a tour up there. We learn about Dark Skies Fly Fishing as well as a breakdown of some of the most well-known trout streams along this path. Fishing Pennsylvania Show Notes with Ralph Scherder 2:57 - Ralph began fly fishing when he was about 14 years old. From an early age, he knew he wanted to be a writer, so for the past six or seven years, he has been selling articles to fly fishing magazines such as American Fly Fishing. He blogs about fly fishing via his website, darkskiesflyfishing.com. His website also has an online store where he sells books, flies, and other stuff. 4:12 - He grew up in Butler County. He spent so much time camping and fishing in Prouty, Pennsylvania, until he and his wife eventually decided to move to Coudersport, PA. 7:01 - He talks about the fishing opportunities in PA. They have a robust population of native brook trout. They also have wild brown and rainbow trout. He considers the First Fork of Sinnemahoning Creek his home water. It's the stream that he grew up on. 11:10 - His fishing technique in the Sinnemahoning Creek is constantly changing. He uses whatever works that day. 12:00 - His place is somewhat isolated, therefore there aren't many fly shops there. Although he doesn't have a physical store, he is the main fly seller in the area. 13:43 - We dig into PA Route 6. It's a transcontinental highway that begins on the east coast near Boston and goes west to the California Coast. He names several of the well-known rivers and streams that may be found along Route 6, including Bowman Creek, Lackawaxen, and Lackawanna. 22:00 - The PA Route 6 Alliance preserves, enhances, and promotes the transportation heritage of the said transcontinental highway. 23:38 - We dig into his website, darkskiesflyfishing.com. One of his favorite pieces that he did just recently is entitled "Fishing and Life: An Afternoon on Kettle Creek". He talks more about Kettle Creek, which is just south of Route 6. 29:05 - We talk about the changes we see in our waters, the bugs, and the species. 32:38 - He tries to write one blog weekly with diverse content. 34:43 - He talks about the day he met fly fishing legend Joe Humphreys and spent a few days with him. He profiled him in an essay for American Fly Fishing. His life story was the subject of a documentary called "Live the Stream" that was released a few years ago. 37:54 - We had Joe Humphreys on the podcast in episode 073. 39:45 - I ask him about another one of his pieces about the Oil Creek Region, which he says is probably Northwestern Pennsylvania's best trout stream. It became the first fully functioning oil well in the world. 41:14 - He suggests his blog as a resource for individuals organizing a fishing vacation to Pennsylvania. It has a lot of details about the streams in the different areas. He suggests PA Route 6 and the Visitors Bureau for basic travel information. 45:34 - The spring creeks in Pennsylvania are the major hubs for fly fishing. However, he says that the streams can get pretty crowded year-round. He notes that there are also good fishing opportunities outside those areas. 47:21 - I ask him about the top places I pulled up when I searched for fly fishing in Pennsylvania. Among these waters are the Youghiogheny, Susquehanna, and Little Juniata. 48:40 - There's a high demand for developing campgrounds in Pennsylvania. He shares that just a few months ago, an article was released saying that Potter and Tioga counties were named the best outdoor destinations in Pennsylvania. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/475

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/474 Presented By: Daiichi, Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Trxstle Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Monte Burke, author of Lords of the Fly, shares his journey of becoming a renowned writer and author. He shares the pivotal moment that transformed his life as he recounts how his first fly fishing story caught the attention of the editor at Sporting Classics, propelling him to become a full-time writer. Discover the dedicated tarpon fishing enthusiasts of the Homosassa club and the current challenges faced by Florida's waters. Explore the stories of fly fishing legends like Tom Evans and Andy Mill, who pushed the sport's boundaries. Monte also recounts his encounter with Nick Saban, one of college football's greatest coaches, resulting in a historic feature in Forbes Magazine. Learn about Monte's other books, including Leaper, Sowbelly, and 4th & Goal, and get a preview of his upcoming book on the Southwest's water crisis. We talk a lot about writing and noted some renowned authors such as John Gierach and Thomas McGuane, and the fascinating intersection of passion, storytelling, and fly fishing. This episode is a must-listen for both avid anglers and literature enthusiasts. Show Notes with Monte Burke on Lords of the Fly 03:00 - We noted his book, Lords of the Fly: Madness, Obsession, and the Hunt for the World Record Tarpon, which is a pretty popular fly fishing book. 03:45 - We had John Gierach on the podcast in episode 047 who's arguably the best fly fishing writer of all time. 04:00 - Most of the males in Monte's family fly-fished - his grandfather, his uncle, and his dad. Monte caught his first Atlantic salmon with his uncle on Margaree River in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. 08:30 - Monte tells the story of when he wrote his first fly fishing story about Ed Shenk from LeTort Spring Run that he sent to different magazine companies. He then got a letter from the Editor of Sporting Classics, Chuck Wexler offering to buy his story for $200. That was his turning point from going to business school to being a fly fishing writer. 10:25 - Topher Browne mentioned Monte on a recent episode at WFS 464. 12:00 - Monte also did a story about Andy Mill who's like a Tigerwoods of Tarpon fly fishing tournament. Andy was on the podcast in episode 330. Andy gave him Tom Evan's number so he could write a story about him. He also noted names of the world's best fly anglers in the 70s and 80s. 19:20 - We talk about how Florida is being ruined nowadays and gets worst each year. 21:10 - We noted Bonefish & Tarpon Trust are doing a great job in researching about the problems in the waters of Florida. Captains For Clean Waters are also fighting hard for Florida waters conservation. And also VoteWater Florida. 24:30 - Monte talks about the rockstars of the Homosassa club who were obsessed with tarpon fishing and made it possible for future generations to catch tarpon. 30:23 - The biggest tarpon ever caught was over 200 pounds on a 20-pound test which was caught by a non-regular guy who was just fishing with his dad. Tom Evans holds the record for the 16-pound test which was 190-pound tarpon. He also holds the record for the 12-pound which was 194-pound tarpon. 44:30 - We talk about Nick Saban who's arguably the best college football of all time. 46:30 - Monte tells the story of when he got a phone call from Nick Saban agreeing to write a story about him. The story was then published in Forbes Magazine (2008) which also became the highest single issue of the magazine ever. Read that story here. 49:20 - Monte talks about his process of writing. 54:25 - We dig into his book, The Making of a Coach which was a story about Nick Saban's life and incredible coaching career. 54:45 - Monte talks about his book, Leaper: The Wonderful World of Atlantic Salmon Fishing, which was a collection of Atlantic salmon stories. 55:15 - Monte did another fishing book called, Sowbelly: The Obsessive Quest for the World-Record Largemouth Bass. 55:50 - We also noted his book, 4th & Goal: One Man's Quest to Recapture His Dream which was about Joe Moglia's legendary career transition from head football coach at Coastal Carolina University to the CEO of TD Ameritrade 56:55 - Monte is writing a new book about the water crisis in South West looking through the lens of Lake Mead. 58:30 - We talk about what makes John Gierach a great writer. Monte says "he's a great lyricist" and explains why. 59:45 - We also noted Thomas McGuane. Monte tells us what makes McGuane's writing special. 1:03:30 - Monte tells the story of when he went to Labrador with Yvon Chouinard and other anglers. 1:07:30 - I asked Monte the question "Are you a writer or a fly fisherman first?". Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/474

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/473 Presented by: Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Dan Pribanic is here today to take us to Chagrin River Outfitters, the Steelhead Alley area, and some fishing tips and tricks. We discover which strains of steelhead they are hitting up there in that part of Lake Eerie. We also get his take on single-hand versus two-handed rods and spey. We also dig into which other species he's focusing on this year in his area. Dan and his team are the big reason why our last trip to Ohio was so successful, so let's find out exactly how they work the magic. Chagrin River Outfitters Show Notes with Dan Pribanic 2:25 - Dan tells how he got into fly fishing. He came from a big family with 10 siblings. His older brothers were involved in outdoor activities such as fishing and hunting, so they were the ones who influenced him to fish. His first fly-fishing experience was in central Pennsylvania. 3:54 - He grew up in Pittsburgh. There are a lot of great trout fishing and warm-water opportunities there. 5:01 - He shares the story of how he started Chagrin River Outfitters. Around 1999, he thought of going to law school. He worked in a law firm for a year with his brothers, who are attorneys, and that was when he realized that that was not the path he wanted to go down. He and his wife eventually opened the shop in 2006. 7:34 - Their shop is right on the Chagrin River, which is a great fishery. They pretty much cover the northeast Ohio area at a little bit of Pennsylvania at times. 8:20 - He takes us into their fishing program if somebody visits their shop around the summer. Steelhead is their number one species. They also have pretty good smallmouth and pike fishing in their local rivers. 12:03 - I ask his thoughts on the steelhead versus not steelhead thing that some people talk about. 14:29 - He talks about how they fish throughout the seasons, particularly the fly patterns and lines. A lot of fishing in their area involves floating Skagit heads and changing up the sink tips they're running. He also describes his go-to rod for his home waters. 19:22 - We dig into smallmouth bass, which is native to their area. These species start coming in by the end of April. 22:48 - He also mentions some other species that they target throughout the year, such as carp, quillback, and gar. 26:44 - There are not a lot of other fly shops in their area, but he mentions the Backpackers shop, which is about an hour and 10 minutes drive from their shop. 27:18 - We dig into Steelhead Alley. They're right in the middle of it. That area has been called the Steelhead Alley for a long time. 29:16 - He walks us through what their shop looks like throughout the year. He mentions some staff members who usually man the shop and provide guiding services. 31:24 - They focus on single-hand and two-handed rod fishing for steelhead. They also host six trips to the Bahamas and Belize yearly for bonefish and permit fishing. They tie steelhead flies and also sell some shop merchandise. 33:27 - He tells the story of the first time he met Jeff Liskay. He has known him since he opened his shop. 34:30 - They also offer single-hand casting classes in their shop. 35:21 - We dig into single-hand versus two-handed casting for steelhead. 36:15 - He mentions some fly patterns that work well for hitting steelhead. He also gives some fishing tips and tricks for catching steelhead, such as speeding up his fly. 42:31 - Most anglers start to fish for steelhead in September when it starts to rain a little bit and the temperature cools down. They also get a lot of guys in their shop who prepare for salmon fishing in Michigan and New York at that time of year. 45:35 - If you want to avoid the crowd, he recommends fishing at Steelhead Alley in December. He also likes fishing from late February to March. For those who are interested in our Steelhead School with Jeff Liskay, visit wetflyswing.com/SteelheadSchool. 47:58 - We throw him a question from one of our Instagram followers about tying droppers. For steelhead fishing, he ties up a bunch of droppers and rigs in advance and puts them in a little bag, which he says is a time saver. 51:24 - He never listens to a podcast, but he loves listening to music and reading books. He's a huge fan of Gordon Lightfoot. 52:03 - He tells us a bit about his busy daily schedule. 53:06 - He talks about Cleveland, Ohio. It has a great food scene and nice fishing. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/473

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/472 Presented by: Daiichi, Chota Outdoor Gear Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Sara Jo Royalty is here to give some fly tying techniques and take us into her story around sailing and music. We find out whether being a professional golf caddy or a professional fly fishing guide is harder, what's new with her new FFI fly fishing event she got coming up this year, and then she knocks it out of the park with a live guitar solo at the end of the episode. Fly Tying Techniques Show Notes with Sara Jo Royalty 2:49 - Sara talks a bit about the recently conducted NW Fly Fishing Expo in Albany which she attended with Caleb Luzader and tied for Daiichi. We had Caleb in the podcast in episode 431. 5:32 - Sara shares how she got into fly fishing and fly tying. She started on the east coast as a commercial long liner. 8:21 - I ask her about how she got sponsored in fly tying and how that works. She sells flies and also ties ones for Daiichi Fly Fishing. She also tells her goals regarding her widely sold patterns. 12:14 - She talks about her process of tying flies or her fly tying zone. 13:42 - Her most common patterns are perdigons, salmon flies, simulators, and chubbies. Her most popular pattern is the pinfish which costs $45 for a 6-inch fly. You can use it for any and every species. If she can only have one fly in the box, that would be her fly. 16:42 - She pretty much ties all year. She also has a guiding license, but she doesn't guide that much. 18:20 - For her, it's harder to guide than to caddy. 19:40 - We dig into how she got sponsored by Daiichi. 21:55 - We had Steve Potter on recently in episode 444. She mentions her go-to hooks from Daiichi. Her favorite hook from them is the 1730 nymph hook. 27:35 - She talks describes their first fishing camp on the Upper Rogue last year. She invited a number of conservation groups in Oregon. Sara is the vice president of Fly Fishers International in the state of Oregon. 32:21 - For this year, the camp will be open to the public. They'll have passes for one night and two-day camping. They'll also have night passes for the music. Free Creatures will be their main band. 34:12 - We dig into her music. She started as a classical pianist when she was three. Now she writes songs and plays the bass and the guitar. She loves classic rock like The White Stripes. 39:36 - Right now, she has been working full-time at Bandon Dunes Golf Resort as a caddy for 10 years. 42:02 - She explains what she does as a caddy, the difficulty of playing golf, and how it's an excellent place to get to know somebody, especially in business. 47:41 - We talk about Tiger Woods and his son, Charlie Woods, who also plays golf. 50:50 - We get back to fly tying and her process. 55:05 - She shares that time when she encountered a different bug that she hasn't seen before. 56:35 - We talk about how she knew Dick Sagara of Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO). Sara has been with TFO for about eight years. 58:18 - She shares her experience when she was living in a boat just sailing for eight years before moving to Oregon. 1:05:26 - We talk about her music. She already has three albums ready to record. 1:06:08 - She promotes their event from August 18th to 20th called Hook, Wine & Thinker - Conservation Campout by Oregon Council of Fly Fishers International at Rogue River Ranch. 1:07:45 - She asks the listeners for stage name suggestions for her. Send your suggestions to her Instagram @SaraJoFlies. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/472

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/471 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Waters West, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors As the seasons change, it's essential to prioritize your well-being and stay healthy. And who better to guide you than Cody Wood? With years of experience and a passion for all things wellness, Cody is here to share his top tips to ensure you have a thriving season ahead. From simple lifestyle adjustments to nourishing nutrition advice, Cody's expertise will empower you to make positive changes and take charge of your health. Whether you're looking to boost your immunity, maintain an active lifestyle, or find balance amidst the chaos, Cody's got you covered. Get ready to embark on a journey of wellness with Cody Wood as your trusted companion. Discover practical tips, actionable strategies, and expert insights to help you navigate the season feeling vibrant, energized, and at your best. Let's unlock a healthier you together! Top Tips to Stay Healthy Show Notes with Cody Wood 2:48 - Cody shared his introduction to fly fishing with a co-worker in the restaurant industry in Oklahoma City, and it all started with a fly rod and fishing in small lakes and private areas. 3:43 - Cody worked for 6 years as a therapist, and what he has learned about it through his own understanding and others he has met is the influence it has on a positive livelihood. 4:42 - Cody has a 12-foot kayak named Jackson Kilroy, and he thinks Stillwater fishing's quickly becoming more of his favorite thing to do just for the serenity. He also loves a good hike along the creek. and he loves to fish in running water, spinning all day, floating around. Whether that's dragging a leach pattern, just trolling, or actually standing up and casting those, he thinks these are his most fruitful days. 5:41 - We talked about how he loves Stillwater compared to the fresh water in the streams. And it's because he's equipped to do it. He's uniquely equipped with the boat. He can get into some areas that others can't. You know, you can throw a bunch of gear in his boat that he wouldn't be able to take with him when he was hiking. So he kind of has his own little space, and that's what's most appealing to him as he gets older just having all the belongings. 7:08 - Cody grew up in Southwest Oklahoma. Lake Reka. And his mom was actually the one who taught him to fish. 11:26 - Cody is now actually in Utah. His in Spanish Fork. He moved down there in August. He moved away from Montana in April. He went to Arizona to pursue business and then he ended up in Utah in August. 12:35 - Cody shared that, being in Oklahoma, Yellowstone Park is to the north, and that has been his magnetic north all his life. When he moves there, he struggles with the fact that, where he is, he instinctively thinks that his north is south, like towards the park. So, for him, it's like a magnetic pole. There's a lot of it; it's a very unique place there. 13:44 - Cody is in Utah County, and he's excited to explore some of these places this summer. He looked at it, and there were some lakes and some things that he was excited to get on the boat. And there was one place they had a Tiger muskie; that was something he never caught. And of course, the Tiger Trout, which he knew was a hybrid, It was a sterile fish, but it was something he had never touched. So he's excited to aim for those and then see where life takes him this summer. 14:50 - We talked about his corporate stuff Pain-Free Outdoors, which started for him as a way to serve active individuals. People like him. People who don't want to go to a clinic or spend time in a gym just have to do it at home or on the road if they live an active lifestyle. Where he is, serving teams, organizations, and groups that have the same approach to physical modalities that he takes. Whereas Life Sync requires a more nutritional and physical approach. So being pain-free on the outside is just the physical side of it, although I touch on the basics of nutrition for people who need it. But for most, it's decompression work. 16:27 - Cody shares why he created Pain-Free Outdoors because if we look at our modern lifestyle, it all goes to the pain-free outdoors, which is what we were made for. We were made to run barefoot, catch things, hunt, Fish, and be alone. Farming and longevity are the biggest pieces of the puzzle that many people have lost because of their lifestyle and because of things that have become cultural norms. So connecting those two dots is why he created Pain-Free Outdoors. 17:45 - We talked about some things that a person can do today or this week to be more active. The Big piece of the puzzle for Cody is body shape recognition. The ability to see it and say, Okay, I'm in good shape versus bad form. So, that awareness is always the biggest part for him when teaching because all the training he gives is based on that shape. 20:15 - Cody mentioned that a lot of people are going to see it as yoga, bu

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/470 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Dette Flies, Bearvault, Drifthook Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today's guest is someone I've been eagerly trying to get on the podcast for a while, and now it's finally happening! Kate Crump is here to talk about fishing Bristol Bay and what it's like to run an Alaskan lodge. We'll also learn about the art of swinging flies for King Salmon and discover what makes this place a haven for crazy-sized fish, including rainbows. Did I mention we'll even get a sneak peek into their steelhead operation in the lower 48? This is going to be one wild ride! Fishing Bristol Bay Show Notes with Kate Crump 03:20 - Kate and Justin have been in Alaska since April to prepare for this season. We hear about the different projects they're working on with the help of their friends and family before they open on June 17 with their first group of guests. 08:12 - Kate and Justin worked as guides for a number of years before they decided to have their own lodge. The Lodge at 58 North operated as a DIY property before, so the Crumps rallied their families and friends to assist them with the major remodeling of the place. 12:45 - The Naknek River is their home water, but they also fly to locations like Katmai National Park, Nushagak River, and Becharof National Wildlife Refuge, using their float plane, a de Havilland Beaver. 13:04 - Kate also dreams of flying their float plane. This reminds me of an episode featuring Tim Rawlins of LineSpeedJedi, who shared his experience flying a float plane in Alaska. Different Species at Bristol Bay 15:41 - According to Kate, Bristol Bay is the greatest swung fly fishery for rainbows in the world. But they also have people coming up in June specifically for King salmon because the Nushagak is home to the largest runs of King Salmon. 19:41 - Kate tells us what makes Bristol Bay so special compared to other fishing locations in Alaska. We also hear about the management practices for sockeye salmon in their area. 25:47 - Kate describes the diverse fishing experiences available at their lodge. They are a small operation that accommodates a single group of eight guests or two groups of four. This setup allows for a personalized and intimate experience for each fishing trip. 34:00 - Kate walks us through the different seasons up there. Additionally, we delve into whether they have plans to make Alaska their permanent home in the future. 42:23 - We talk about fishing for King Salmon and the important regulations in place to protect them. 49:58 - Kate shares insights about the rainbows in their area and discusses the perfect rod for targeting them. We also delve into the incredible abundance of sockeye salmon up there. The Crumps in Oregon's North Coast 58:22 - Kate shares a glimpse into their steelhead operation in the lower 48 and how it differs from their guiding experiences in Alaska. 1:00:54 - Kate says she is the only female fishing guide on the north coast. She opens up about the barriers she encountered and her mentor, Nancy Morris Lyon, the first female fishing guide in Bristol Bay. 1:13:32 - Kate loves hiking into small streams and fishing for rainbow trout in June and July. Her go-to mouse pattern is RIO's Pip Squeak. 1:16:00 - Kate enjoys listening to music while flying around on their float plane or when she's out on a boat. 1:18:13 - Kate always makes sure to have her sunglasses and rain jacket with her when venturing into the backcountry, and she recalls a time when she forgot her rain jacket and vowed never to make that mistake again. As a Patagonia ambassador, she highly recommends their Swiftcurrent rain jacket. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/470