Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/495 Presented By: BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Picture this: You're standing at the base of El Capitan, the world's most famous rock climb, surrounded by the matchless beauty of Yosemite National Park. How does it feel? Our experienced guides, David and Greg, take us on this exciting journey in this episode, sharing insights about the park, from its unique fishing spots to the crucial issue of bear management. We learn about the distinctive characteristics of the park and the significance of restoring the Hetch Hetchy Valley and our rivers. You might have heard tales of bear encounters in Yosemite, but did you know there's never been a black bear-related fatality in the park? In an enlightening conversation, we discuss the challenges of human-bear interaction management and the critical role of rangers. On a lighter note, we delve into the world of fishing in Yosemite. Imagine casting your line in the diverse waters, waiting for the nibble of a golden trout or a German brown. David and Greg share tips and techniques to reel in the best catch, and reveal their favorite fishing spots. Conservation and stewardship take center stage as we shift our attention to the history and politics of Hetch Hetchy Valley in Yosemite. We probe into the potential for its restoration and its impact on the park. We also discuss the practice of good fishing ethics and the significance of passing on the knowledge of conservation and sustainability. This episode is a testament to the power of small acts of kindness and their ripple effect on the world. So, tune in, as we together explore the wonders of Yosemite, all the while learning how to plan your trip, the changes to the recreation booking process, and much more. Episode Chapters (0:00:05) - Yosemite Exploration and Backcountry Fishing (0:08:21) - Yosemite Fly Fishing and Backcountry Adventures (0:14:56) - Managing Bears and Food in Yosemite (0:23:17) - Bear Sightings and Tourist Expectations (0:27:38) - Fishing Trips and Expectations (0:36:02) - Sierra Fishing Strategies and Tips (0:44:49) - Restoring Hetch Hetchy Valley, Environmental Impact (0:50:53) - Restoring Hetch Hetchy Valley (1:01:24) - Responsible Catch and Release Fishing Tips (1:12:00) - Fishing and Environmental Concerns (1:16:53) - The Power of Making a Difference (1:20:49) - The Importance of Conservation and Stewardship (1:32:37) - Conservation and Education in Yosemite (1:36:14) - Changes to Recreation Booking Process Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/495

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/494 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for some dry fly tips for the Farmington River as we dive into our latest podcast episode with Antoine Bissieux. In this episode, we'll be focusing on dry fly fishing. But that's not all! We'll also talk about the top rivers to fish in Connecticut, a hidden gem for fly fishing enthusiasts. Antoine will also share some gear recommendations to enhance your dry fly fishing experience. So kick back, grab your favorite beverage, and get ready for a laidback and informative conversation that will have you itching to hit the water with your dry flies at the ready! Farmington River Show Notes with Antoine Bissieux 1:34 - Antoine gives us an update since he guested on our podcast in episode 424. He talks about that time when he spent two weeks in the Farmington River with his old friend, Yannick Riviere, and some other anglers. When they were there, a tremendous storm came in. 8:20 - His season comes to an end after Christmas. He doesn't start fishing until mid-March. It varies from year to year depending on the weather. In his spare time, he usually ties flies and creates watches, which he finds relaxing. 11:07 - Antoine teaches us about Connecticut's best rivers. The Housatonic River is a beautiful river that offers excellent fishing in the fall and spring. Summer pike and bass fishing in Housatonic are fantastic. It's double the size of the Farmington. The Farmington is Connecticut's most well-known river. Click here for a list of the top 15 fly fishing locations in Connecticut. 15:14 - He explains why Farmington is the number one river to visit in Connecticut. To fish the Farmington, he advises starting from the section between New Hartford and Riverton. He mentions a guidebook to fishing the Farmington by the Farmington River Anglers Association. 20:02 - If you're going to hit dry flies in the Farmington River, the best month would be from the end of May to July. He also mentions the bugs present at this time. 22:53 - His off-season patterns are typically some form of crippled or handicapped bug. He mentions a fly that looks identical to it. A fly created by Yannick that he claims is hard to sink also works well for him. 29:00 - He gives more dry fly tips and tricks. He says that a good fly is nothing else but a good cast. 33:20 - We talk about his leader setup and other gear in detail. 40:44 - Antoine highly recommends Bestard boots for wading. 44:47 - He discusses the Magic CDC, a new CDC on the market that is not yet accessible in the United States. 46:37 - He uses a semi-automatic reel from Peux Fly Fishing, notably the Fulgor 01 which is also available at the Tactical Fly Fisher. He explains the difference between an automatic and semi-automatic reel. 51:40 - I ask him questions from our listeners about the rod and reel combo for fresh and saltwater and streamer fishing. 53:51 - He provides additional useful dry fly fishing tips and tricks. He recounts using a CDC fly called berzilleuse, which Yannick named for himself. 57:05 - He tells the secret of a good dry fly cast. 59:50 - He does fishing sessions with Orvis. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/494

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/493 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee, Mavrk Fly Fishing Alex Czayka is here with us today to give us a glimpse into Western Reserve Land Conservancy. We find out how Alex's journey into fly fishing and his passion for the outdoors led him to a career in conservation. Tune in to learn about conservation challenges, significant projects, and the vibrant hunting and fishing culture in Ohio. Show Notes with Alex Czayka 02:30 - Alex's venture into fly fishing took root during his late teens in Northeast Ohio, where his background in hunting and fishing farm ponds evolved into a passion for fly fishing, thanks to the influence of his brother. 04:00 - Alex's journey into conservation started with a biology degree at Kent State for his undergraduate studies, followed by obtaining a Master of Science in Wetland Ecology from SUNY Brockport. His love for the outdoors and desire to turn his passion into a career led him to roles at Nature Conservancy and Western Reserve Land Conservancy. 06:23 - We hear the distinctions between Alex's experiences at Nature Conservancy and Western Reserve Land Conservancy. 08:29 - We hear the story of the Cuyahoga River, famously known for catching fire, which tarnished Cleveland's reputation and led to the implementation of significant environmental regulations. 10:27 - Alex discusses the major challenges in natural resource conservation that we are currently facing. Additionally, he also provides insights into the work that they do. 21:00 - Alex tells us about some of the projects they have been involved in. He highlights a recent partnership with Lake Metroparks, focusing on acquiring and protecting property at risk of being heavily forested. 26:37 - Alex discusses their conservation efforts targeting specific species, such as the Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake. 32:18 - The Western Reserve Land Conservancy, with over 50 employees, stands as one of the largest land trusts in the United States. 43:30 - According to Alex, Ohio boasts a robust hunting and fishing culture, with Lake Erie notably yielding an impressive stock of walleye. 44:40 - The significance of steelhead was also highlighted in our recent episode with Dan Pribanic of Chagrin River Outfitters, who mentioned their importance for local businesses like his shop. 51:12 - Alex is a big fan of the MeatEater Podcast. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/493

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/492 Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today, Steve Smith, creator of Smitty's Fly Box, takes us through the journey of crafting one of the finest fly-tying boxes in the world. Steve recalls his childhood, a time when he had all-access to Indiana basketball in the 80s when his father was the assistant coach alongside the iconic coach Bobby Knight. From his family's relocation to Logan, Utah to establishing a fly shop and subsequent sourcing of fly-tying materials, Steve's story is as interesting as the flies he ties. He gives an insider look into his fly-tying companies, Round Rocks and Smitty's Fly Box. He also talks about his experiences teaching fly fishing at Utah State University, painting a vivid picture of his dynamic journey. Show Notes with Steve Smith on Smitty's Fly Box (02:00) Fly Fishing and Round Rocks - Steve got into fly fishing with his dad and grandpa when he was a kid, and his earliest memories of fishing for bluegill in Indiana. He shares his experience with the legendary basketball coach Bobby Knight when his dad was an assistant coach for Knight's championship team in 1987. Steve talks about what it was like to be around Indiana basketball in the 80s, and the big players on the team. He shares the story behind the founding of Round Rocks. (09:09) From Basketball to Fishing - Steve's passion for fly fishing was sparked by his dad and grandpa taking him fishing for bluegill when he was a kid. His dad then moved the family to Logan, Utah, and started a fly shop there. Steve and his dad made contact with a fly-tying factory in China and got a deal with Sportsman's Warehouse, a chain of 130 stores nationwide. They transitioned from the factory in China to the factory in Thailand and Steve stays connected with the people there. Steve also teaches fly fishing classes at Utah State University and has a new venture, Smitty's Fly Box. (20:57) Bobby Knight, Fly Fishing Influences - Steve's father was a basketball coach at a small school, West Side High School in Dayton, Idaho. Bobby Knight was hosting coaching clinics in the area and asked Steve's dad to take him fly fishing. Steve's dad obliged, drawing Bobby Knight a map of the area and taking him to the Madison River to fish. A few years later, when Bobby Knight won the NCAA National Championship in 1981, he called Steve's dad and asked him to be his assistant coach. They packed up and moved to Indiana, and Steve was six at the time. We also discuss Isaiah Thomas, one of the greatest point guards of all time, and how his time with Bobby Knight shaped him into a hard-nosed ball player. (32:33) - Fly Tying and Materials Discussion - We discuss the beginner and intermediate fly-tying boxes, the patterns they contain, and the materials we use. We explore the story of Whiting Farms, run by Tom Whiting, and how he has revolutionized hackle for dry flies. We also touch on our plans to transition and spread the word about our Round Rocks and Smitty's fly boxes. (45:49) - Exploring Rivers and Fly Tying - Steve's father plays an important role in his fly-fishing journey and his teaching. We discuss Steve's home water, the Logan River, and how it connects to Salt Lake. We also talk about the number of flies the company produces each year, which is in the millions. Lastly, we look at the evolution of fly fishing and how Steve's father is open to new ideas and techniques. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/492

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/491 Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we dive into the exciting world of Olympic Peninsula fly fishing. Join us as we explore the diverse fish species you can encounter in this region, uncover popular tourist spots that offer incredible fishing opportunities, and get an insider's perspective on the renowned Waters West Fly Shop. We'll also discuss their viral Instagram reel, where they demonstrate the art of casting using the Ahrex Flexistripper. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a beginner looking to delve into the world of fly fishing, this podcast episode is packed with valuable insights and insider tips that you won't want to miss. Fly Fishing Olympic Peninsula Show Notes with Ed Fuhrken and Kyle McCurdy 1:12 - In episode 337, we welcomed Ed and Kyle on the podcast to discuss about surf perch fly fishing. 4:02 - We talk about their viral Instagram reel where Kyle made a cast using the game-changing Ahrex Flexistripper. The reel has now more than a million views. 8:27 - They give us an update on what keeps them busy in the Olympic Peninsula this time of year. They usually catch sea-run cutthroats in the summer. 14:18 - We dig into the movement of sea-run cutthroats in the OP. The months of September through November are ideal for getting away from the crowds on the river because most people are out looking for salmon in the fall. 17:10 - Ed's pet species are the king salmon and steelhead. In the OP, the same spot where you catch steelheads is the same one where you can catch kings. 20:07 - Kyle's main focus for July and August is beach fishing for sea-run cutthroats as he doesn't need to dedicate an entire day to do this. He can just go beach fishing right after work. 21:14 - Kyle looks forward to September and October as well, especially when it rains in September. According to Kyle, it could be the most incredible fishing experience you've ever had. 22:05 - When fishing for kings, they use a 12ft 9wt spey rod, specifically the Pieroway Renegade by Jerry French and Skagit lines. 24:31 - They give some tips on coho fishing. Typically, it's stripping streamers and sink tips. 25:40 - Right around Thanksgiving, that's when they start fishing for steelhead. 28:52 - We talk about lake fishing in the OP. 32:40 - For spring king, which is notoriously challenging to catch on the fly, the rivers in the OP open out around May. After the winter, trout fishing in the spring can be excellent as the water temperature drops. 33:42 - They walk us through the steps when someone comes to their shop in August to fish for cutthroat in the salt. Their go-to flies are Delia's Cohead Squid, Muddler Minnow, and Wounded Sculpin. 36:26 - They recommend bringing a stripping basket or the Ahrex Felxistrip when beach fishing in the OP to keep your line on the water. 37:35 - We go further into casting on the beach. 40:28 - Other species like flounder, pink salmon, black rockfish, and spiny dogfish are mentioned as being caught on the beach. 46:44 - We discuss other tourist attractions in the Olympic Peninsula. 49:19 - I ask about the other species in the OP that are like the surf perch. 50:30 - We dig into the flies they have in the shop. You can find their flies available through their online store. 55:23 - The vise they use are from Renzetti and Regal. We had Lily Renzetti, President of Renzetti Inc., in episode 486 where we talked about the company's humble beginnings. 56:20 - They tell about their friend who is bass-crazy. He has scouted every lake he can get to fish for largemouth bass. 57:29 - For hitting chinooks, it depends on the weather. When the heavy rains start, the salmon and chinooks rush in. 1:03:33 - We talk about the Elwha River. 1:05:26 - Lake Crescent is a special place for them. It is one of Washington's deepest lakes with a maximum depth of 624 feet. It has two endemic fish species, the Crescenti Cutthroat and Beardslee trout. 1:07:12 - Their favorite restaurants in their area are Spruce, Crab Shack, and Barhop. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/491

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/490 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Justin Lovell, a resident of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, has a deep passion for both powerlifting and fly fishing. With an unwavering dedication to physical strength and a love for the peacefulness of the outdoors, he finds joy in these two diverse pursuits. Whether he's lifting heavy weights or casting his line into the serene waters, Justin embraces the unique blend of power and tranquility that powerlifting and fly fishing offer, making him a true adventurer at heart. 00:05 - Justin shared the fly fishing opportunities in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia such as casting for Atlantic salmon in the Margaree River or targeting brook trout in secluded mountain streams. 03:23 - We talked about Justin Lovell's social media, and you can check out his accounts here, as well as on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Youtube, and Podbean. 04:30 - Justin shared that Cape Brenton, Nova Scotia, boasts unique features such as lobster fishing, coal mining, and the Cabot Trail, making it a unique and diverse island. 06:18 - Justin passionately highlighted the world-class fly fishing opportunities nestled along the iconic Margaree River, where anglers can pursue the thrill of catching Atlantic salmon and immerse themselves in the tranquility of Cape Breton's landscape. 07:36 - Justin mentioned several lodges in the area, including glamping, Big Interval Lodge, Brown's and Ross's cabins, and various other options. He mentioned that they offer a cool spot for life purposes and can be accessed around the margarita. 08:16 - Justin shared that despite the common perception of him being a dedicated salmon angler, he actually prefers fishing for brook trout. He humorously mentioned that he's known for his passion for dry fly fishing, which leads to playful teasing from his friends who favor streamers. He emphasized his preference for catching numerous small trout on dry flies over targeting one big brook trout using streamer patterns. Justin clarified that he doesn't dislike streamers but has a genuine love for the art of dry fly fishing. 10:45 - Justin shared that Bras d'Or Lakes offer a unique fishing opportunity with a variety of fish, including striped bass, brown trout, rainbow trout, Brook trout, perch, flatfish, and mackerel. This unique fishing opportunity provides a diverse range of fish for those seeking a unique fishing experience. 11:45 - Justin, a weightlifter, had no outdoor experience until 27 years ago when he fell during a squat and crushed his lower back. He tried to fly fishing at home but was criticized for breaking threads. He eventually bought a fly rod and went out, but accidentally got the hook stuck in his ear. Justin advises others to take time to learn and improve their skills. 12:56 - Jusin learned fly fishing by going with older guys and learning from their experiences. He found some information correct and others wrong, but as he progressed, he began listening to podcasts and other tips to identify areas for improvement. 13:34 - Justin advises beginners to initially learn fly fishing independently, focusing on casting and mastering essential skills like fly line tying, backing attachment, and leader connection. He simplifies casting techniques, underscores the significance of proper methods and gear, and offers guidance to enhance skills and enjoyment in fishing. 14:22 - After three years of starting fly fishing, Justin embraced the guiding principle for learning, recognizing the importance of opportunities. He was open about his limitations and began guiding advanced individuals, forming close friendships, and gaining insights from clients. Over time, he contemplated sharing his guiding expertise through teaching. 16:43 - Justin mentions the North River and Baddeck River, which hold salmon, and Bras d'Or Lakes occasionally receive a run of salmon. 18:38 - Justin mentioned Cape Breton's numerous fishing spots, including the Cabot trail, which boasts massive Brook Trout. He emphasized the importance of visiting for daybreak, as it is a challenging hike. The area is worth the effort, as it offers numerous opportunities for fishing. 20:11 - We discussed a mixed topic, focusing on Brook Trout. When planning a trip, Justin recommends targeting late May to early June for prime fishing, especially for large Brook Trout. However, July to September offers dry fly fishing, with some variability due to weather conditions. 24:33 - Justin shifted away from Salmon Fishing, barely guiding for them last year and not at all this year. Surprisingly, this year has witnessed the highest fish catch in the last four years, with people landing up to four fish a day, a significant improvement compared to the usual one or none. 27:32 - Justin used to prepare a list of questions for his podcast interviews, but he now takes a more spontaneous approach. He aims to understand the interviewee's fishing style

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/489 Presented By: Dette Flies, Smitty's Fly Box, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today we explore the extraordinary life of Zane Grey, a literary giant whose legacy resonates to this day. In this episode, we'll unravel Grey's passion for fly fishing, his iconic works, and his intriguing connections. Ed Meyer, Archivist at ZGWS, who was once the Vice-President, shares his insider perspective on Grey's journey. Our exploration continues through Grey's fishing escapades on the Rouge and the Umpqua Rivers with his brother R.C., shaping his love for the outdoors. The ZGWS Archives offer a glimpse into Grey's fly fishing odyssey, highlighted by works like "Rogue River Feud" and "Tales of Freshwater Fishing," which immortalize his adventures. Moving beyond his novels, Grey's prowess in outdoor articles comes to the fore. We also venture into the dynamic friendship between Grey and Ernest Hemingway, unpacking their differing writing styles and vices. Discover Grey's literary gems, from "Riders of the Purple Sage" to "The Vanishing American," each a testament to his enduring impact. Join us as we journey through the pages of history, revealing hidden anecdotes like Dolly's secret savings that led to the founding of Zane Grey Inc. As we immerse ourselves in Grey's world, the past and present intertwine, painting a vivid portrait of a remarkable man. Show Notes with Ed Meyer on Zane Grey Books 04:00 - Ed is the Archivist at ZGWS. He used to be the Vice-President. 04:30 - Zane Grey is one of the biggest authors in the world. We hear the story of how Zane Grey got into fly fishing. 08:55 - Zane Grey passed away in 1939. 10:20 - We talk about how Zane used to fish the Rouge and the Umpqua Rivers with his brother R.C. 11:40 - Ed noted the page at ZGWS Archives dedicated to Zane Grey's fly fishing history. 12:50 - Ed noted the books, Rogue River Feud and Tales of Freshwater Fishing. 14:00 - Aside from novels, Zane Grey's biggest success initially were magazines around the country. He wrote articles about the outdoors. 15:00 - Ed noted ZG's most famous book and movie, Riders of the Purple Sage. 20:10 - Roping Lions in the Grand Canyon was a fact-based novel. 26:50 - Ed talks about Zane Grey and Ernest Hemingway's friendship. He also talks about their difference in writing style. 31:10 - Hemingway was an alcoholic and Grey was into women. 43:40 - Grey's most famous book about Native Americans is The Vanishing American. 50:20 - The book that made Grey first famous was The Heritage of the Desert. 50:30 - Ed also noted The Rainbow Trail which was about Rainbow Bridge. 56:00 - Ed tells the story of how Dolly saved up money without Zane knowing about it. 1:00:20 - Ed tells the story of when Grey had a stroke on the Umpqua River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/489

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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/488 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Dette Flies, Waters West, Angler's Coffee Today on the Littoral Zone with Phil Rowley, we cover part two of our in-depth discussion on making sense of stillwater fly lines. In Part 1, Phil revealed seven of the twenty fly lines that make up his kit. And today, we unwrap the remaining lines, break it all down, and lock in on the crucial trio Phil swears by – the three primary lines you should never hit the water without. Making Sense of Stillwater Fly Lines Show Notes 04:33 - If you listened to Part 1, you heard Phil Rowley break down the goal of this dynamic two-part series on stillwater fly lines, which is to provide an understanding of why you need multiple lines to be consistently successful on lakes. 10:02 - By the end of the first part, Phil revealed seven out of twenty fly lines that make up his kit. Today, we complete the list and discover the three primary lines Phil recommends having in your arsenal whenever you hit the water. Sinking Lines 11:15 - For most people fishing lakes, sinking lines are often the go-to choice due to the deeper water depths where trout predominantly feed on subsurface prey. 12:17 - The horizontal retrieve path that sinking lines provide mimics the way many of the natural food sources trout feed upon move. 12:45 - Lakes can be windy, affecting both casting and presentation. Wind-induced surface chop can disrupt floating line presentations. Longer leaders used in these conditions can lead to casting issues like tailing loops and knots, causing frustration and hindering successful angling. 14:59 - Grains are a unit of measure used to help determine line weight so you match the fly line to the correct weight of the rod. The American Fly Tackle Manufacturers Association set a standard that the grains measured over the first 30ft of a fly line are used to determine the line weight. 17:46 - Density compensation addresses the uneven tungsten powder distribution that caused U-shaped sinking profiles in early double taper lines. With density compensation, the line sinks tip first, eliminating the curved profile and enhancing bite detection. Hover Lines 26:11 - A hover line generally sinks at approximately one inch per second, although exact rates may vary among manufacturers. These lines are commonly not density compensated. Clear Intermediates 30:47 - Clear intermediate lines sink a little faster in the hover, anywhere from one and a half to two inches per second, depending on the manufacturer. Like the hover, this is ideal in windy conditions because it will get below that surface chop yet not sink fast enough. Faster Sinking Lines 33:50 - While line type usually corresponds to sink rate, factors like water density can subtly influence sinking speed. Faster sink rate lines are used for getting into much deeper water. Sweep or Parabolic Lines 37:27 - Another type of line that's come into the market recently and gaining popularity is the sweep or parabolic line. These are lines that have sections of different sink rates along their length, which encourages an exaggerated U-shape retrieve path. Hang Markers 44:00 - A common feature on many sinking lines today is the hang marker, a physical marker on the line. Hang markers can be added manually using Dacron-based bobber stoppers, slid onto the line, and secured through a tug. 48:00 - Monofilament lines commonly exhibit memory issues, regardless of the manufacturer. 53:00 - Phil provides valuable insights into efficiently changing fly lines while on the water. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/488

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/487 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory In today's episode, Destiny Egley reveals why the Lava Hot Springs is an essential stop on any road trip. Discover the secrets behind their impressively low costs and also learn how and why they do the no-sulfur hot springs. Be amazed by the hidden gems that make Lava Hot Springs a true traveler's delight. Lava Hot Springs Show Notes with Destiny Egley 02:21 - Destiny's roots stretch back to Utah. Two decades ago, she embarked on a new chapter in Idaho alongside her husband, who was born and raised in Lava Hot Springs. Initially, Destiny worked at a local grocery store upon their arrival. When a position opened up at Lava, she seized the opportunity and dedicated the last 20 years to her role there. 03:23 - The Lava Hot Springs Foundation is a state-owned facility. They are the only agency within the state of Idaho that is self-funded, and they operate their facilities on admission fees. 06:00 - Destiny highlights the reason behind their world-famous reputation, emphasizing the absence of sulfur in their pristine waters. They have over two and a half million gallons of crystal-clear water coursing through their five pools every 24 hours. The pool temperatures vary from 112 to 102 degrees. 08:03 - Destiny takes genuine pride in the impeccable cleanliness of their facility. And on top of all that, what sets them apart is their commitment to keeping rates affordable compared to other hot springs. 10:00 - We're gearing up for a trip to Henry's Fork in October. 11:12 - In addition, Bear Lake is another remarkable destination, situated just a few hours away from their location. Bear Lake offers fantastic fishing opportunities for cutthroat trout, lake trout, yellow perch, and mountain whitefish. 13:00 - The Olympic Swimming Complex & Indoor Aquatic Center is a summer facility featuring water slides, diving boards, diving towers, and basketball. Aside from that, they also have a year-round 25-yard indoor pool that boasts a rock-climbing wall, a diving board, and a relaxing hot tub. 16:17 - Destiny talks about some of the other things you can do in their area, including a ziplining tour, Lava Go-Karts, shopping, and an upcoming brewery. 21:00 - Destiny and her husband own a Polaris General UTV, their go-to vehicle for exploring off-duty. They enjoy fishing at Chesterfield Reservoir, a 45-minute drive from Lava. 27:26 - Amidst all the incredible reasons, I asked Destiny about any downsides to living there. 41:47 - Blackfoot is another fantastic stop featuring the Idaho Potato Museum. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/487

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/486 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togens Fly Shop, Angler's Coffee, Smitty's Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Lily Renzetti is here to tell you the entire Renzetti fly tying vise story and how they've been setting the standard for the past 50 years. We learn how it all began with an idea to make fly tying easier. We also look at some of their current ambassadors as well as some of the big names who are utilizing Renzetti across the country. We also learn why the traveler vise has been such a major changer throughout the year and continues to be a go-to vise. We also learn what's next for Renzetti. Renzetti Fly Tying Vise Show Notes with Lily Renzetti 2:56 - Lily gives us a fascinating summary of how Renzetti was built. Her husband, Andy Renzetti, was working as a machinist at that time at a local shop in Romansville PA. With the help of his brother, they were able to design the Presentation 3000 which was the very first vise that was introduced by Renzetti and retailed by Orvis. 5:51 - In 1988, they introduced the Traveler series and Presentation 4000. 9:27 - It has been 50 years since they introduced the Presentation 3000. For her, it has been a beautiful journey not only building a business but also building relationships with their customers and other people in the industry. 14:37 - Before Renzetti, Andy was using the Thompson A vise back then. The HMH vises were also available at that time. 15:23 - The true rotary concept was introduced by Renzetti. 17:17 - Lily tells us the current patents they have. They have also been designing and manufacturing rod-building equipment since the early '80s. 21:09 - I ask her what are the biggest difference she sees in the fly-tying market over the years since they started. 25:30 - She gives her opinion on other companies making vises that are similar to theirs. 28:40 - Currently, they have about 25 ambassadors which consist of legends such as Bob Popovics and Bob Clouser. Kelly Galloup is also one of them. He had him in the podcast in episodes 052 and 167. 32:15 - They find the best people to be their ambassadors regardless of their race and sexual orientation. 34:26 - Lily tells us about her journey to the US. She was born and raised in Venezuela and came to the US for college. She went to St. Joseph University in Philadelphia and took up a major in business and a minor in industrial relations. He got involved in the business with Andy in 1987. 40:06 - She is thankful to their team for consistently making everything happen and producing products that are up to the standards they set from the very beginning. 42:00 - Just this year, they introduced the Renzetti Tool Bar, Renzetti Tool Bar Station, and the Green Master Series Vise with extended crank arm, hinged stem, and streamer base. The last one won a prize at the ICAST as one of the best in the category. 46:58 - We talk about the purpose of the Bobbin Cradle. 54:05 - In buying your first vise, she recommends starting with their Traveler first. It holds the hook securely and offers true rotary features. They also have accessories that they designed for the Traveler which makes it versatile. 59:40 - She recommends subscribing to their YouTube channel @Renzetti to learn about their products and the true rotary concept. 1:01:07 - I ask her about retirement and their plans for the company. Andy has already retired, but he still goes to the office and trains their staff on the operations. 1:04:50 - She shares Andy's favorite quote which goes "There is a better way. Find it." and the inspiring story of how he persevered despite being underprivileged and having a learning disability growing up. 1:09:04 - She explains the qualities they look for in brand ambassadors. 1:11:53 - She brought the Casting for Recovery to Florida. They have also been supporting the Tunnel to Towers Foundation (T2T). They give to T2T for every vise they sell. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/486

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/485 Presented By: Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Dette Flies, Smitty's Fly Box Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Step into the world of fly fishing and outdoor exploration with Ed, an experienced angler and writer, as he shares his journey in this episode. We start by learning about Ed's involvement with the Cape Piscatorial Society and his contributions to the Piscator Journals. He offers his thoughts on Tenkara rods, providing a fresh perspective on their use. Ed also discusses his book, "The Delicate Fly Fisher," giving us a sneak peek into its various chapters that cover everything from fly tying to embracing the approach of small stream fishing. Amid the angling discussions, Ed opens up about the challenges posed by a health condition that affected his balance and limited his fishing activities. He provides valuable tips for successful fishing trips, stressing the significance of appropriate gear, staying hydrated, and maintaining a stealthy approach. Beyond fishing, Ed takes us through his broadcasting career and even touches on historical figures like Nelson Mandela. Along the way, he recommends several books, reflects on notable anglers like Joe Humphreys, and explores intriguing concepts such as Gary LaFontaine's theory of attraction. This episode offers a well-rounded blend of angling insights, personal stories, and outdoor wisdom. Show Notes with Ed Herbst on The Delicate Fly Fisher 05:00 - Ed joined the Cape Piscatorial Society in his mid-30s. He also wrote for Piscator Journals. 09:45 - Ed talks about what he thinks about Tenkara rods 12:00 - Ed wrote a book called, The Delicate Fly Fisher. He talks about its chapters. 20:25 - Gary Borger was on the podcast in episode 045 21:45 - Ed noted how Sage came up with the Ought-wt fly rod. 26:15 - "Small stream Ethos is a visual form of fly fishing". Ed explains how and why. 37:30 - Ed talks about the disease he has that took away his balance, which also is one of the reasons why he couldn't fish anymore. 41:40 - Jeff Morgan wrote a book about Small-Stream Fly Fishing. Jeff Morgan was on the podcast at WFS 120. 42:00 - Ed also noted Jeff's book, Productive Trout Flies for Unorthodox Prey: The Oddballs. Ed tells us what he loves most about that book. 46:00 - Ed breaks down the stuff to keep in mind when going on a fishing trip. 53:45 - Ed talks about his broadcasting career being a reporter. 56:00 - We talk about Nelson Mandela, former President of South Africa. 1:04:30 - Ed noted the book, Trout From Small Streams by Dave Hughes. 1:07:15 - Ed noted the book, Fly Fishing Outside the Box: Emerging Heresies 1:10:15 - We recently had Geri Meyer out of the Driftless Anglers at WFS 468. 1:14:30 - The main species they target in Cape Town are browns and rainbows. 1:17:00 - Ed's go-to fly rod is a 7-foot 2-wt/3-wt. 1:17:30 - Ed noted that video of Joe Humphreys fishing small streams. 1:29:45 - Ed talks about Gary LaFontaine's theory of attraction. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/485

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/484 Presented by: Mavrk Fly Fishing (code: mavrkwfs20) Use the coupon code: mavrkwfs20 and get 20% off your next order. Jeff Sasaki takes us into Mavrk fishing and what it's like to build a massive brand in the cellphone accessories business. He also tells us why he transferred to producing unique fly fishing gear. We also discover how to fish dries with a euro nymphing setup, how Newton's law affects your cast, and his take on the center axis fly reel. Mavrk Fishing Show Notes with Jeff Sasaki 2:43 - Jeff gives us an update since we last had him in episode 415. The main thing is they are expanding their rod line that is yet to be launched. 3:20 - He further discusses the advantages of the new rod line they'll launch that will be longer and lighter. 9:47 - We dig into product design and development. His degree and background were in product design. Before Mavrk, he started a brand called Element Case. 11:17 - Jeff explains industrial design, graphic design, and engineering. 15:35 - We return to the fascinating account of how he founded Element Case. 17:32 - He tells a humorous tale about how Apple once misplaced a prototype in a bar. He considered creating a case for the iPhone 4 at that time because it had just gone viral. Their instances gained widespread attention, and they received so many orders that the server had to shut down their website. 28:28 - He eventually decided to sell the brand. He realized he was not interested in the consumer electronics industry, took a break, and made Mavrk happen. 31:53 - He explains the lessons he learned while creating the Element Case and launching Mavrk. He reached a point with Element where he was unable to accomplish what he enjoyed doing with Element, such as creating and chatting with clients. 35:02 - I ask him how he would have kept the Element small. 36:28 - For Mavrk, he wants to keep the company small. 39:02 - He gives some advice and tips for those who want to create a product for the outdoors like talking to somebody who has an idea about the product, preferably an industrial designer who knows a thing about the materials, the manufacturing, and the industry. 45:20 - He discusses the Diffusion of Innovation (DOI) Theory and the five adopter categories when promoting a new product or service to a target population. 49:22 - He tells about that time, early on for Mavrk, when they launched on Kickstarter which he says was a mistake. 53:15 - He talks about graphene, which is utilized in Formula One cars. 54:46 - He gives some advice about the fly fishing industry that might help those who want to introduce a new product. 1:03:39 - He encourages people to learn how to write a business plan. He recommends the book titled "How to Write a Business Plan" by Mike McKeever. 1:06:18 - He believes that being a product designer allows him to be near to the things he enjoys, like when he designed a Fox Racing helmet for Ricky Carmichael. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/484

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/483 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Angler's Coffee, Bearvault, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, we get up close and personal with the minds behind Echo Fly Fishing: Tim Rajeff, Jarrod Black, and Jamie Hixson. We hear the story of how Echo was founded and discover how they crafted some of the world's toughest, most durable rods. Plus, find out why Tim chose to pass the Echo torch to Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Join us for this inspiring episode that celebrates not only the art of fly fishing but also the lasting friendships it creates. Echo Fly Fishing Show Notes 03:21 - Echo Fly Fishing was established in 2001 by Tim Rajeff alongside Jarod and Katherine. Jamie Hixson joined the Echo team later in 2005, but his friendship with Jarrod dates back even before that. 04:40 - We hear the story behind Tim's decision to stick with Jarrod and Jamie instead of selling out to the highest bidder. Tim remains an integral part of Echo Fly Fishing, dedicating his expertise to what he does best – rod design. 07:30 - Jarrod and Tim's partnership traces back to their 15-year stint at G. Loomis Fishing Rods before they founded Rajeff Sports to distribute Airflo Fly Lines. Their collaboration with Airflo lasted for 20 years until they decided to part ways in August 2020. Meet the Echo Team Jarrod Black 12:34 - Jarrod lived in an industrial town in Washington where there was a huge manmade lake. He and Jamie would use hotdog buns on a fly rod to target and catch carp. 16:50 Jarrod shares that the lack of affordable and quality fly gear influenced his decision to work at G. Loomis. When Echo was founded, it became a priority for him to make fly fishing more accessible to more people. Jamie Hixson 18:00 - Feeling burned out from his project manager role at a steel manufacturer and his 3D modeling job, Jamie reached out to Jarrod, who offered him a part-time position at Echo, which quickly turned into a full-time role. Now, with 18 years under his belt at Echo, Jamie's engineering background has proven invaluable as he and Tim work together to design exceptional Echo products. Tim Rajeff 23:20 - Despite growing up in a non-fly fishing town in California, Tim was just a short 5-minute walk away from the renowned Golden Gate Angling and Casting Club, where the foundations of modern fly fishing equipment were developed. Alongside his brother, who became a world casting champion, they had already been fishing when they stumbled upon the club and discovered a passion for the sport. Echo Fly Rods 26:23 - The Echo team shares valuable insights about their target customer and how they succeeded in creating rods at a lower price point. They take us behind the scenes of their rod conceptualization process. Additionally, we dive into the Shadow X Fly Rod, a product developed in collaboration with Pete Erickson for competition use. 43:40 - We get to the heart of the matter and ask the Echo team about the secret behind their durable rods. 52:00 - We also explore the evolution of Echo Fly Fishing's rods and the common reasons a rod would break. Tim emphasizes that most rods break at the tip. Because of this, his team set up a program where you can easily request a replacement tip online. 1:10:40 - During our conversation, the Echo team shares the inspiration and concept that gave birth to their iconic logo. 1:13:20 - Tim reveals the secret behind the Micro Practice Rod, which he shares was inspired by Joan and Lee Wulff's Fly-O. 1:17:00 - Of course, we seize the opportunity to learn casting tips from the master himself, Tim Rajeff. We dive into the double haul technique and explore valuable insights on how to improve our casting skills. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/483

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/482 Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Daiichi, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join us for an awesome episode as we catch up with Riverhorse - an angler, writer, filmmaker, musician, surfer, and Patagonia Fly Fish Ambassador. Having been on our podcast twice before, we'll delve into his recent film projects with Patagonia and his other exciting ventures. We discover how you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters through SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org. Beyond his wilderness pursuits, Riverhorse talks about how he leads the Editorial of a magazine called, ToneQuest Report Magazine, featuring contributions from rockstars and musicians. Riverhorse talks about his upcoming fly fishing book filled with essays and adventure stories and also talks about the impact of music on people's lives. Plus, a bonus poetry read at the end! Stay tuned for that! Show Notes with Riverhorse Nakadate 03:00 - Riverhorse had been on the podcast twice at WFS 80 and WFS 266. We talked about saving the Boundary Waters. 03:10 - Riverhorse talks about his most recent film projects with Patagonia and others. 06:50 - He noted a project he did with Patagonia called, It's All Home Water - A Northern Light which resulted in a mining ban for 20 years. 08:45 - We encourage people to explore SaveTheBoundaryWaters.org for the latest updates and discover ways you can contribute to preserving the Boundary Waters. 11:50 - Riverhorse is now running the ToneQuest Report Magazine after his friend who used to run it passed away. A lot of other rockstars and musicians contribute to the magazine. Check out their editorial board here. 13:30 - We noted the song, You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive by Darrell Scott. 18:40 - Riverhorse has been stories for Fly Fish Journal. They just issued a recent one called, HEARTLAND DRIFTING: A MINNESOTA PICARESQUE. 19:15 - Riverhorse is writing a fly fishing book with essays and adventure stories that he's been saving up. 20:45 - We had John Gierach on the podcast twice. His recent one is WFS 434. 25:00 - He noted Erin Block who's a female angler and fly fishing writer. Check out her stuff here. 28:00 - Riverhorse talks about how his mom taught him to communicate his feelings honestly. 30:10 - We talk about how to stay optimistic when it comes to conservation. 37:30 - Riverhorse talks about Jeff Liskay and their adventures together. 39:10 - Jeff Liskay is now part of our podcast with his own series The Great Lakes Dude. 46:00 - We hear the story of when Yvon Chouinard wrote Riverhorse a touching letter of appreciation. 47:00 - We had Craig Matthews on the podcast at WFS 427. 52:30 - Riverhorse talks about his poem, Cloud Burst. Listen to his poetry read starting at 55:10. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/482

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/481 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In today's episode, the Dude Jeff Liskay chats with one of the best shallow-water fly anglers, Dave Hurley. They connected because of their love for the freshwater Drum. They think it's a cool fish with its chicken feathers but interestingly enough, some people call it "trash fish". Now Dave joins our show today to talk about why these fish are great to target. Dave is a skinny water specialist that runs skinny water safari guide service. Dave roams the backwater of the Great Lakes based on the Lower Peninsula, Michigan where he pulls his way through the miles of skinny water flats, sight-fishing for a wide variety of warm water species out of his towee boat. Show Notes with Dave Hurley on Skinny Water Fishing 04:00 - Dave joined a community of fly fishermen who fished in the surf along the Pacific where they fished for Corbina, Surfperch, and Croaker species. Dave got really into fishing for Spotfin Croaker. 06:00 - Dave found out that a stonefly nymph pattern works great for Spotfin Croakers. 09:00 - Dave talks about getting his first boat. 17:50 - He talks about the time when he and his best friend fished sight fished for musky on the flats. 18:40 - His go-to is a 6-wt rod and occasional 7-wt. 19:30 - Dave now focuses on carp fishing and goes up to 10-wt. For leader, he goes up to 15-pound test, and sometimes 12 or 10-pound. 27:25 - Dave doesn't really pay attention to water temperatures. He and his team are mostly sight fishing. 35:55 - We talk about casting. "Your short game is just as important as your long game", Dave says. 39:25 - Dave's favorite line is the SA Bass Bug Fly Line. 42:25 - Dave talks about how he improvises when he ties his flies, tying them differently each time. He also talks about the common materials he uses. 47:40 - Jeff's go-to flies always have rubber. 49:00 - Dave talks about how being an artist affects his creativity in fishing. 51:00 - Dave talks about how he practices handling fish in a way that doesn't hurt the fish. And also talks about how he tries in his own little ways to protect the waters he fishes. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/481

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for an epic adventure at the Lodge At Palisades Creek on the South Fork of the Snake River! Justin's got an awesome story to tell—from chef to fly fishing guide to running the lodge. We find out how they won the Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year and how Orvis has supported them along the way. We explore the river's stunning five sections, each stretchin' about 12 miles. We dive into the wild world of Yellowstone cutthroat and those rowdy rainbows, causing a stir in Idaho with bounties on their heads! We've got the lowdown on the Salmon fly, Goldenstone, and Caddis fly hatches—nature's showtime! Justin also shares valuable tips for all the DIY anglers out there and discusses the importance of river etiquette. Plus, a crazy story involving Dick Cheney's bodyguards and a sketchy civilian that came so close to a river shootout! Show Notes with Justin Hays on Lodge At Palisades Creek 03:00 - Justin tells the story of how he transitioned from being a chef to being a fly fishing guide to managing a lodge. 06:50 - Justin talks about how partnering with Orvis has provided so much support to them in every aspect along the way. 08:20 - We talk about Yellowstone cutthroat decreasing in numbers and the rainbows increasing, almost being considered invasive. As a result, the Idaho Fishing Game made it legal to catch and kill rainbows, making it a controversial topic in Idaho. IFG even put a bounty on rainbows. 12:50 - We are coming to the Southfork in Fall for Euro Nymphing School with Pete Erickson. 20:20 - We had an episode about the Henry's Fork Foundation with Brandon Hoffner at WFS 414. 23:15 - Trivia: Henry's Fork was originally called the North Fork. 27:40 - They divide the river into 5 sections. Each section is roughly 12 miles long. The 1st section has 5 access points. The 2nd and 3rd sections are the Canyon sections - Justin talks about the amazing campsites in these sections and how amazing it is to fish there. The 4th section begins in the town of Ririe. Read about these sections in detail here. 35:45 - You can visit MillerDriftBoats.com to rent a raft or a drift boat. 36:15 - Stonefly hatch lasts about 2 weeks. Justin talks about the Goldenstone hatch. In the summer they have a hopper season which ends in August. He also noted the Mutant Stonefly hatch - stoneflies that can't fly. And then they have some Dunns as September progresses. 41:50 - "The trick to the Salmon fly thing is throwing a large dry fly on 2x underneath a bush or a tree and twitching out and try to mimic the real lifecycle of an adult Salmonfly...", Justin explains in detail. 46:20 - Perdigons has been a game-changer for them in the last 2 years. 48:20 - Caddis fly hatch starts in mid-October. 48:55 - Pro tip for DIY anglers: "This river empties at 5 pm. You can have that river to yourself at 5 pm and it doesn't get dark until 10 pm." 52:30 - Justin is turning 55 this year. He started fishing in the Snake River when he was about 19 years old. 55:45 - We talk about river etiquette. 1:00:50 - Justin talks about how they won Orvis Fly Fishing Lodge of the Year. 1:06:55 - We noted that video by The New Fly Fisher highlighting the Lodge At Palisades Creek. Scroll down to watch the trailer. 👇🏻 1:07:20 - Their outfitting team mainly uses ClackaCraft Drift Boats. Justin talks about how they customized their boats and their great features. 1:11:30 - Justin recommends a 9-foot 6-wt rod. 1:13:13 - Justin noted a few restaurants and places around the area that has good food. 1:14:45 - Justin talks about Dick Cheney who's also a passionate fly angler. He tells a crazy story of when Dick's bodyguard suspected a civilian of being a threat and almost got shot. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/480

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/479 Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Angler's Coffee, Trxstle, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Derek Darst is here to introduce us to the St. Joe River and some of his specialty fly patterns. We explore this lizard fly and some of his other unique flies as we look at his top flies for Idaho. We also learn where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout in his part of the world. Fly Fishing the St. Joe River Show Notes with Derek Darst 3:21 - Derek tells us how he got into fly fishing. He spent a lot of his time backcountry fly fishing with his father, and at the age of 10, he started learning how to tie flies. He now offers flies online through Saint Maries Flies. 5:33 - We dig into the St. Joe River and Saint Maries River which he says has a good Westslope cutthroat population. 9:10 - We find out where to look for Westslope cutthroat trout. 15:05 - He recommends some must-have fly patterns to catch some Westslope cutthroat trout, such as stimulator, elk hair, caddises, and royal wolf. One of his favorites is the Turks tarantula with a red body or burnt orange colored body. 18:28 - He takes us through the year through the St. Joe River. 21:12 - We talk about Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. A lot of people visit this area for the lakes. 22:25 - He gives us the key to finding some bull trout. I mention our episode with Dave Blackburn where he talked a bit about the regulations on targeting bull trout. 29:21 - He sells Pat Cohen patterns on his website. Pat was one of his big influences in fly tying. He quit selling flies and dedicated his time to tattoo artistry through his Instagram @rusuperfly. We had him in the podcast on episode 107. 30:20 - We dig into his fly tying. At first, he was self-taught, but then he bought some of Pat Cohen's videos to learn about deer hair. 31:52 - The most common flies he ties are the poppers, divers, and frogs. 34:14 - He gets his deer hair from North American Trading in Strum, Wisconsin. He looks for the thickest and longest hair. 38:48 - He also sells lizards for muskies and bass which are around nine to 10 inches long. He ties these for an hour at least. 43:28 - We talk about Westslope cutthroats. There are also a few rainbows in St. Joe River. 46:27 - He recommends the Huckleberry Campground. People mostly camp during summer in around July and August. 47:08 - We do some random rapid-fire questions. 49:09 - He shares about that time when Luke Bryan visited their town to fish. He performed live in Spokane and at the 2:15 minute mark of the video, he signed a board with Derek's flies on it and took the fly with him. 50:53 - He went to Florida, at Tampa Bay, a couple of months ago for a fishing trip. 53:06 - He did a video for Musky Town on tying deer hair diver and popper. 54:57 - He uses a lot of Kona Xtra Stong Stinger (XSS) hooks for his hair bugs. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/479

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/478 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies, Trxstle, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Patrick Berry takes us into Fly Fishers International and the resources you can utilize for fishing and conservation. We discover where locally you can get involved in sustaining your fishing and your fishery. We also find out which top national issues they are working on this year and the history of how it all started for Patrick and FFI. This is not just your ordinary fishing chat — it's an inspiring journey of passion, dedication, and making a difference. Fly Fishers International Show Notes with Patrick 03:00 - When it comes to conservation, names like Fly Fishers International and Trout Unlimited always come up. We've previously had Len Zickler on the show, and today we're diving into an exciting update on FFI with Patrick Berry. But first, we hear about how Patrick got into fly fishing. 04:00 - Patrick's earliest memories in life were of fish and fishing. Despite not having much growing up, he vividly recalls a camping trip with his family, where his father ingeniously crafted fishing rods out of sticks, strings, and safety pins as hooks while digging worms for bait. 08:20 - Patrick shares his journey into conservation work, which he describes as a common path for many fly fishers. He quotes the words of Lee Wulff, one of the founders of FFI, who famously said, "When you teach a person to fly fish, you have just created a conservationist." 10:14 - After years of trout bumming after college, Patrick got a job in a fly shop with Jeff Currier. He says reading Aldo Leopold's A Sand County Almanac inspired Patrick to pursue environmental science, focusing on freshwater ecology and fisheries. This marked the beginning of his remarkable conservation-focused career. 12:35 - After years in Montana, Patrick and his wife decided to return to Vermont, where he worked for the Vermont Natural Resources Council. He was later appointed head of Vermont's Fish and Wildlife Department. Fly Fishers International — Who Are They? 14:38 - Patrick Berry sees Fly Fishers International as an organization that is available to guide people on their fly fishing journey no matter what their skill level is, where they live, or what fish is their favorite to chase after. Fly Fishers International started with a focus on conservation, education, and community in the 1960s, and they've stayed true to their roots to this day. 15:00 - Fly Fishers International's most significant strength area is high-quality fly fishing education. The Casting Instructor Certification at FFI is considered a premier casting instructor program worldwide. 18:00 - Patrick shares his perspective on pressing issues today, such as climate change and more. According to Patrick, climate change movements sometimes fall short of providing information on how an average person can help make a difference. 35:40 - Patrick lets us in on FFI's conservation focus for the upcoming years. Their main goal is to keep providing conservation grants at the local level and collaborate closely with partners to tackle big-picture conservation challenges head-on. 41:17 - We also touch on the significance of technology and the role of famous personalities in driving change. 46:17 - Since our upcoming event is centered around the Great Lakes, I couldn't miss the opportunity to ask Patrick for his insights on the steelhead program in the region. 1:05:27 - Patrick is a music and podcast enthusiast, and he admits to having a dedicated playlist exclusively for The Avett Brothers' songs. Additionally, Patrick is a big fan of the SmartLess Podcast, especially the episode featuring George Clooney. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/478

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/477 Presented By: Chota Outdoor Gear, Trxstle, Mavrk Fly Fishing, Daiichi Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Jeff Liskay is back on the podcast to take us back into Steelhead Alley this year with some bonuses and a big trip! We talk about what you can expect for that trip to Steelhead Alley with me, Jeff Liskay, Rick Kustich, and a bunch of other anglers, and why you should be excited about it! Jeff shares some great tips on casting, gear setup, and how to have a great day on the water. We also talk about Jeff's multispecies boat which has lots of awesome features. Stay tuned as announce the big winner live on Facebook for that Steelhead Alley trip! Show Notes with Jeff Liskay on Steelhead Alley 07:00 - You can check out all of the Great Lakes Dude's podcast episodes at wetflyswing.com/gld 10:30 - Jeff talks about fishing for drums, carp, and gars. He tells us how water temperatures affect fishing and what fishing looks like between now and December. 18:30 - We just had Rick Kustich back on the podcast to give us a little teaser on what we're going to be doing on that Steelhead Alley trip. 25:30 - Tip: "Do not be afraid to use your single-hand rod, or the spey line, or small switch rod, or do some indicator fishing for the day". 37:00 - Jeff talks about how he and his buddies mix things up with rod setup, lines, leader, tippet, flies, how they swing, etc. 45:00 - Jeff shares some awesome casting tips. 50:00 - "Your eyes are your best tool", Jeff says.. when it comes to fishing deep waters. He explains why. 52:00 - Tip: "Most good fishing locations are places you don't want to fish or are hard to get to". 1:00:45 - Tip: "Do not be afraid to drive to better river conditions than fight a bad water condition". 1:01:25 - Tip: "Play around with your leader or tippet". 1:07:45 - Jeff recommends the SA Spey Lite Skagit Line by Scientific Anglers. 1:12:12 - We talk about Jeff's 22-foot Ranger multispecies boat that has 5 fish finders and other awesome features. 1:14:30 - We'll be announcing the Steelhead School winner live on Facebook next week. So stay tuned and good luck! Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/477

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/476 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton, Togens Fly Shop, Waters West, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors The one and only Rick Kustich is ready to blow our minds today with all things modern spey fishing and some exciting updates, including his latest book. We're diving deep into the spey game, uncovering the early players, and getting all the juicy details on how Rick works his magic with flies on the Lake Erie tributaries. Rick and his crew will be our guides for the upcoming Steelhead Alley, so we'll also get an exclusive sneak peek of what awaits us on this thrilling adventure. Modern Spey Fishing Show Notes with Rick Kustich 03:00 - It's hard to believe it's only been a short while since our last episode with Rick in January 2022. Today he brings us up to speed on his latest adventures and a brand new book on Steelhead. 03:45 - Rick shares his insights on the unique steelhead experience in New York and what sets it apart from other Great Lakes locations. 05:38 - Rick Kustich aims to demystify spey fishing through his new book, Modern Spey Fishing. It covers everything from steelhead to trout and even smallmouth fishing, making it a valuable resource no matter your skill level. 08:39 - Rick paints a picture of what awaits us on our December trip to New York. According to Rick, New York's unique advantage over Ohio is its access to tributaries on both Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. 11:10 - Rick also provided a comprehensive rundown of the fishing techniques we'll use at that time of the year. 12:36 - Rick and his crew, along with Nick Pionessa, will be our guides for the upcoming Steelhead Alley. Additionally, Rick mentioned the potential participation of his good friend Vince Tobia from Cattaraugus Creek Outfitters as a third guide on the trip. Q & A with Rick 13:06 - Our Instagram followers join the conversation with their questions for Rick, and he eagerly takes on the challenge. What is the ideal water temperature for swinging for steelhead? 13:50 - The ideal water temperature for swinging for steelhead is between 42 to 56 degrees Fahrenheit. Rick says this temperature range is when the fish are most active. Additionally, Rick emphasizes that it's not solely about the absolute temperature but instead having more stable temperatures, where sudden overnight drops are avoided, which helps keep the fish more active. What is the Spey Nation Event? 18:44 - We delved into the topic of the Spey Nation event, originally a one-day spey clave started by Geoff Schaake, which had to be put on hold due to COVID. This time, Swing the Fly is bringing it back as a three-day event, scheduled from August 11 to August 13. 19:40 - Last year, Rick and Topher Brown collaborated with Swing the Fly to offer spey casting classes on the Salmon River. This year, they plan to integrate those classes with the traditional format of the Spey Nation event. How do you catch a fish on the fly in low clear water? 24:00 - When it comes to catching fish on the fly in low clear water, Rick suggests employing a stealthier approach. One effective strategy is to use a long monofilament or fluorocarbon leader and a weighted fly and cast the fly further away from the fly line. What's Rick Kustich's gear choice? 39:14 - Rick Kustich prefers using rods 11 to 12 1/2 feet long, recommending brands like Scott Fly Rods, R.B. Meiser, and Echo. Additionally, Rick has collaborated with Simon Gawesworth and RIO for several years, and he mentions that Simon wrote the forward for his new book. Rick uses RIO's Elite Skagit Max Launch. What's next for Rick? 47:13 - After putting in much effort to write Modern Spey Fishing, Rick looks forward to taking a break from books. However, he has big plans and hopes to write a book about trout someday. How do you detect the strike and ensure you don't miss a fish? 57:24 - Rick adopts a more passive approach when setting the hook, particularly for steelhead. In his book, he extensively discusses hook setting, recognizing it as a challenge many anglers face. 1:03:00 - We wrap up the conversation with Rick with his "desperate salmon story" in the York River. This tale is also featured in his book Reflections on the Water. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/476

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/475 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Ralph Scherder is here to take us fishing Pennsylvania and break down traveling and fishing in the north part of PA. We'll learn more about Route 6 and why you might be interested in taking a tour up there. We learn about Dark Skies Fly Fishing as well as a breakdown of some of the most well-known trout streams along this path. Fishing Pennsylvania Show Notes with Ralph Scherder 2:57 - Ralph began fly fishing when he was about 14 years old. From an early age, he knew he wanted to be a writer, so for the past six or seven years, he has been selling articles to fly fishing magazines such as American Fly Fishing. He blogs about fly fishing via his website, darkskiesflyfishing.com. His website also has an online store where he sells books, flies, and other stuff. 4:12 - He grew up in Butler County. He spent so much time camping and fishing in Prouty, Pennsylvania, until he and his wife eventually decided to move to Coudersport, PA. 7:01 - He talks about the fishing opportunities in PA. They have a robust population of native brook trout. They also have wild brown and rainbow trout. He considers the First Fork of Sinnemahoning Creek his home water. It's the stream that he grew up on. 11:10 - His fishing technique in the Sinnemahoning Creek is constantly changing. He uses whatever works that day. 12:00 - His place is somewhat isolated, therefore there aren't many fly shops there. Although he doesn't have a physical store, he is the main fly seller in the area. 13:43 - We dig into PA Route 6. It's a transcontinental highway that begins on the east coast near Boston and goes west to the California Coast. He names several of the well-known rivers and streams that may be found along Route 6, including Bowman Creek, Lackawaxen, and Lackawanna. 22:00 - The PA Route 6 Alliance preserves, enhances, and promotes the transportation heritage of the said transcontinental highway. 23:38 - We dig into his website, darkskiesflyfishing.com. One of his favorite pieces that he did just recently is entitled "Fishing and Life: An Afternoon on Kettle Creek". He talks more about Kettle Creek, which is just south of Route 6. 29:05 - We talk about the changes we see in our waters, the bugs, and the species. 32:38 - He tries to write one blog weekly with diverse content. 34:43 - He talks about the day he met fly fishing legend Joe Humphreys and spent a few days with him. He profiled him in an essay for American Fly Fishing. His life story was the subject of a documentary called "Live the Stream" that was released a few years ago. 37:54 - We had Joe Humphreys on the podcast in episode 073. 39:45 - I ask him about another one of his pieces about the Oil Creek Region, which he says is probably Northwestern Pennsylvania's best trout stream. It became the first fully functioning oil well in the world. 41:14 - He suggests his blog as a resource for individuals organizing a fishing vacation to Pennsylvania. It has a lot of details about the streams in the different areas. He suggests PA Route 6 and the Visitors Bureau for basic travel information. 45:34 - The spring creeks in Pennsylvania are the major hubs for fly fishing. However, he says that the streams can get pretty crowded year-round. He notes that there are also good fishing opportunities outside those areas. 47:21 - I ask him about the top places I pulled up when I searched for fly fishing in Pennsylvania. Among these waters are the Youghiogheny, Susquehanna, and Little Juniata. 48:40 - There's a high demand for developing campgrounds in Pennsylvania. He shares that just a few months ago, an article was released saying that Potter and Tioga counties were named the best outdoor destinations in Pennsylvania. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/475

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/474 Presented By: Daiichi, Waters West, Angler's Coffee, Trxstle Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Monte Burke, author of Lords of the Fly, shares his journey of becoming a renowned writer and author. He shares the pivotal moment that transformed his life as he recounts how his first fly fishing story caught the attention of the editor at Sporting Classics, propelling him to become a full-time writer. Discover the dedicated tarpon fishing enthusiasts of the Homosassa club and the current challenges faced by Florida's waters. Explore the stories of fly fishing legends like Tom Evans and Andy Mill, who pushed the sport's boundaries. Monte also recounts his encounter with Nick Saban, one of college football's greatest coaches, resulting in a historic feature in Forbes Magazine. Learn about Monte's other books, including Leaper, Sowbelly, and 4th & Goal, and get a preview of his upcoming book on the Southwest's water crisis. We talk a lot about writing and noted some renowned authors such as John Gierach and Thomas McGuane, and the fascinating intersection of passion, storytelling, and fly fishing. This episode is a must-listen for both avid anglers and literature enthusiasts. Show Notes with Monte Burke on Lords of the Fly 03:00 - We noted his book, Lords of the Fly: Madness, Obsession, and the Hunt for the World Record Tarpon, which is a pretty popular fly fishing book. 03:45 - We had John Gierach on the podcast in episode 047 who's arguably the best fly fishing writer of all time. 04:00 - Most of the males in Monte's family fly-fished - his grandfather, his uncle, and his dad. Monte caught his first Atlantic salmon with his uncle on Margaree River in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. 08:30 - Monte tells the story of when he wrote his first fly fishing story about Ed Shenk from LeTort Spring Run that he sent to different magazine companies. He then got a letter from the Editor of Sporting Classics, Chuck Wexler offering to buy his story for $200. That was his turning point from going to business school to being a fly fishing writer. 10:25 - Topher Browne mentioned Monte on a recent episode at WFS 464. 12:00 - Monte also did a story about Andy Mill who's like a Tigerwoods of Tarpon fly fishing tournament. Andy was on the podcast in episode 330. Andy gave him Tom Evan's number so he could write a story about him. He also noted names of the world's best fly anglers in the 70s and 80s. 19:20 - We talk about how Florida is being ruined nowadays and gets worst each year. 21:10 - We noted Bonefish & Tarpon Trust are doing a great job in researching about the problems in the waters of Florida. Captains For Clean Waters are also fighting hard for Florida waters conservation. And also VoteWater Florida. 24:30 - Monte talks about the rockstars of the Homosassa club who were obsessed with tarpon fishing and made it possible for future generations to catch tarpon. 30:23 - The biggest tarpon ever caught was over 200 pounds on a 20-pound test which was caught by a non-regular guy who was just fishing with his dad. Tom Evans holds the record for the 16-pound test which was 190-pound tarpon. He also holds the record for the 12-pound which was 194-pound tarpon. 44:30 - We talk about Nick Saban who's arguably the best college football of all time. 46:30 - Monte tells the story of when he got a phone call from Nick Saban agreeing to write a story about him. The story was then published in Forbes Magazine (2008) which also became the highest single issue of the magazine ever. Read that story here. 49:20 - Monte talks about his process of writing. 54:25 - We dig into his book, The Making of a Coach which was a story about Nick Saban's life and incredible coaching career. 54:45 - Monte talks about his book, Leaper: The Wonderful World of Atlantic Salmon Fishing, which was a collection of Atlantic salmon stories. 55:15 - Monte did another fishing book called, Sowbelly: The Obsessive Quest for the World-Record Largemouth Bass. 55:50 - We also noted his book, 4th & Goal: One Man's Quest to Recapture His Dream which was about Joe Moglia's legendary career transition from head football coach at Coastal Carolina University to the CEO of TD Ameritrade 56:55 - Monte is writing a new book about the water crisis in South West looking through the lens of Lake Mead. 58:30 - We talk about what makes John Gierach a great writer. Monte says "he's a great lyricist" and explains why. 59:45 - We also noted Thomas McGuane. Monte tells us what makes McGuane's writing special. 1:03:30 - Monte tells the story of when he went to Labrador with Yvon Chouinard and other anglers. 1:07:30 - I asked Monte the question "Are you a writer or a fly fisherman first?". Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/474

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/473 Presented by: Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Dan Pribanic is here today to take us to Chagrin River Outfitters, the Steelhead Alley area, and some fishing tips and tricks. We discover which strains of steelhead they are hitting up there in that part of Lake Eerie. We also get his take on single-hand versus two-handed rods and spey. We also dig into which other species he's focusing on this year in his area. Dan and his team are the big reason why our last trip to Ohio was so successful, so let's find out exactly how they work the magic. Chagrin River Outfitters Show Notes with Dan Pribanic 2:25 - Dan tells how he got into fly fishing. He came from a big family with 10 siblings. His older brothers were involved in outdoor activities such as fishing and hunting, so they were the ones who influenced him to fish. His first fly-fishing experience was in central Pennsylvania. 3:54 - He grew up in Pittsburgh. There are a lot of great trout fishing and warm-water opportunities there. 5:01 - He shares the story of how he started Chagrin River Outfitters. Around 1999, he thought of going to law school. He worked in a law firm for a year with his brothers, who are attorneys, and that was when he realized that that was not the path he wanted to go down. He and his wife eventually opened the shop in 2006. 7:34 - Their shop is right on the Chagrin River, which is a great fishery. They pretty much cover the northeast Ohio area at a little bit of Pennsylvania at times. 8:20 - He takes us into their fishing program if somebody visits their shop around the summer. Steelhead is their number one species. They also have pretty good smallmouth and pike fishing in their local rivers. 12:03 - I ask his thoughts on the steelhead versus not steelhead thing that some people talk about. 14:29 - He talks about how they fish throughout the seasons, particularly the fly patterns and lines. A lot of fishing in their area involves floating Skagit heads and changing up the sink tips they're running. He also describes his go-to rod for his home waters. 19:22 - We dig into smallmouth bass, which is native to their area. These species start coming in by the end of April. 22:48 - He also mentions some other species that they target throughout the year, such as carp, quillback, and gar. 26:44 - There are not a lot of other fly shops in their area, but he mentions the Backpackers shop, which is about an hour and 10 minutes drive from their shop. 27:18 - We dig into Steelhead Alley. They're right in the middle of it. That area has been called the Steelhead Alley for a long time. 29:16 - He walks us through what their shop looks like throughout the year. He mentions some staff members who usually man the shop and provide guiding services. 31:24 - They focus on single-hand and two-handed rod fishing for steelhead. They also host six trips to the Bahamas and Belize yearly for bonefish and permit fishing. They tie steelhead flies and also sell some shop merchandise. 33:27 - He tells the story of the first time he met Jeff Liskay. He has known him since he opened his shop. 34:30 - They also offer single-hand casting classes in their shop. 35:21 - We dig into single-hand versus two-handed casting for steelhead. 36:15 - He mentions some fly patterns that work well for hitting steelhead. He also gives some fishing tips and tricks for catching steelhead, such as speeding up his fly. 42:31 - Most anglers start to fish for steelhead in September when it starts to rain a little bit and the temperature cools down. They also get a lot of guys in their shop who prepare for salmon fishing in Michigan and New York at that time of year. 45:35 - If you want to avoid the crowd, he recommends fishing at Steelhead Alley in December. He also likes fishing from late February to March. For those who are interested in our Steelhead School with Jeff Liskay, visit wetflyswing.com/SteelheadSchool. 47:58 - We throw him a question from one of our Instagram followers about tying droppers. For steelhead fishing, he ties up a bunch of droppers and rigs in advance and puts them in a little bag, which he says is a time saver. 51:24 - He never listens to a podcast, but he loves listening to music and reading books. He's a huge fan of Gordon Lightfoot. 52:03 - He tells us a bit about his busy daily schedule. 53:06 - He talks about Cleveland, Ohio. It has a great food scene and nice fishing. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/473

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/472 Presented by: Daiichi, Chota Outdoor Gear Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Sara Jo Royalty is here to give some fly tying techniques and take us into her story around sailing and music. We find out whether being a professional golf caddy or a professional fly fishing guide is harder, what's new with her new FFI fly fishing event she got coming up this year, and then she knocks it out of the park with a live guitar solo at the end of the episode. Fly Tying Techniques Show Notes with Sara Jo Royalty 2:49 - Sara talks a bit about the recently conducted NW Fly Fishing Expo in Albany which she attended with Caleb Luzader and tied for Daiichi. We had Caleb in the podcast in episode 431. 5:32 - Sara shares how she got into fly fishing and fly tying. She started on the east coast as a commercial long liner. 8:21 - I ask her about how she got sponsored in fly tying and how that works. She sells flies and also ties ones for Daiichi Fly Fishing. She also tells her goals regarding her widely sold patterns. 12:14 - She talks about her process of tying flies or her fly tying zone. 13:42 - Her most common patterns are perdigons, salmon flies, simulators, and chubbies. Her most popular pattern is the pinfish which costs $45 for a 6-inch fly. You can use it for any and every species. If she can only have one fly in the box, that would be her fly. 16:42 - She pretty much ties all year. She also has a guiding license, but she doesn't guide that much. 18:20 - For her, it's harder to guide than to caddy. 19:40 - We dig into how she got sponsored by Daiichi. 21:55 - We had Steve Potter on recently in episode 444. She mentions her go-to hooks from Daiichi. Her favorite hook from them is the 1730 nymph hook. 27:35 - She talks describes their first fishing camp on the Upper Rogue last year. She invited a number of conservation groups in Oregon. Sara is the vice president of Fly Fishers International in the state of Oregon. 32:21 - For this year, the camp will be open to the public. They'll have passes for one night and two-day camping. They'll also have night passes for the music. Free Creatures will be their main band. 34:12 - We dig into her music. She started as a classical pianist when she was three. Now she writes songs and plays the bass and the guitar. She loves classic rock like The White Stripes. 39:36 - Right now, she has been working full-time at Bandon Dunes Golf Resort as a caddy for 10 years. 42:02 - She explains what she does as a caddy, the difficulty of playing golf, and how it's an excellent place to get to know somebody, especially in business. 47:41 - We talk about Tiger Woods and his son, Charlie Woods, who also plays golf. 50:50 - We get back to fly tying and her process. 55:05 - She shares that time when she encountered a different bug that she hasn't seen before. 56:35 - We talk about how she knew Dick Sagara of Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO). Sara has been with TFO for about eight years. 58:18 - She shares her experience when she was living in a boat just sailing for eight years before moving to Oregon. 1:05:26 - We talk about her music. She already has three albums ready to record. 1:06:08 - She promotes their event from August 18th to 20th called Hook, Wine & Thinker - Conservation Campout by Oregon Council of Fly Fishers International at Rogue River Ranch. 1:07:45 - She asks the listeners for stage name suggestions for her. Send your suggestions to her Instagram @SaraJoFlies. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/472

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/471 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Waters West, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors As the seasons change, it's essential to prioritize your well-being and stay healthy. And who better to guide you than Cody Wood? With years of experience and a passion for all things wellness, Cody is here to share his top tips to ensure you have a thriving season ahead. From simple lifestyle adjustments to nourishing nutrition advice, Cody's expertise will empower you to make positive changes and take charge of your health. Whether you're looking to boost your immunity, maintain an active lifestyle, or find balance amidst the chaos, Cody's got you covered. Get ready to embark on a journey of wellness with Cody Wood as your trusted companion. Discover practical tips, actionable strategies, and expert insights to help you navigate the season feeling vibrant, energized, and at your best. Let's unlock a healthier you together! Top Tips to Stay Healthy Show Notes with Cody Wood 2:48 - Cody shared his introduction to fly fishing with a co-worker in the restaurant industry in Oklahoma City, and it all started with a fly rod and fishing in small lakes and private areas. 3:43 - Cody worked for 6 years as a therapist, and what he has learned about it through his own understanding and others he has met is the influence it has on a positive livelihood. 4:42 - Cody has a 12-foot kayak named Jackson Kilroy, and he thinks Stillwater fishing's quickly becoming more of his favorite thing to do just for the serenity. He also loves a good hike along the creek. and he loves to fish in running water, spinning all day, floating around. Whether that's dragging a leach pattern, just trolling, or actually standing up and casting those, he thinks these are his most fruitful days. 5:41 - We talked about how he loves Stillwater compared to the fresh water in the streams. And it's because he's equipped to do it. He's uniquely equipped with the boat. He can get into some areas that others can't. You know, you can throw a bunch of gear in his boat that he wouldn't be able to take with him when he was hiking. So he kind of has his own little space, and that's what's most appealing to him as he gets older just having all the belongings. 7:08 - Cody grew up in Southwest Oklahoma. Lake Reka. And his mom was actually the one who taught him to fish. 11:26 - Cody is now actually in Utah. His in Spanish Fork. He moved down there in August. He moved away from Montana in April. He went to Arizona to pursue business and then he ended up in Utah in August. 12:35 - Cody shared that, being in Oklahoma, Yellowstone Park is to the north, and that has been his magnetic north all his life. When he moves there, he struggles with the fact that, where he is, he instinctively thinks that his north is south, like towards the park. So, for him, it's like a magnetic pole. There's a lot of it; it's a very unique place there. 13:44 - Cody is in Utah County, and he's excited to explore some of these places this summer. He looked at it, and there were some lakes and some things that he was excited to get on the boat. And there was one place they had a Tiger muskie; that was something he never caught. And of course, the Tiger Trout, which he knew was a hybrid, It was a sterile fish, but it was something he had never touched. So he's excited to aim for those and then see where life takes him this summer. 14:50 - We talked about his corporate stuff Pain-Free Outdoors, which started for him as a way to serve active individuals. People like him. People who don't want to go to a clinic or spend time in a gym just have to do it at home or on the road if they live an active lifestyle. Where he is, serving teams, organizations, and groups that have the same approach to physical modalities that he takes. Whereas Life Sync requires a more nutritional and physical approach. So being pain-free on the outside is just the physical side of it, although I touch on the basics of nutrition for people who need it. But for most, it's decompression work. 16:27 - Cody shares why he created Pain-Free Outdoors because if we look at our modern lifestyle, it all goes to the pain-free outdoors, which is what we were made for. We were made to run barefoot, catch things, hunt, Fish, and be alone. Farming and longevity are the biggest pieces of the puzzle that many people have lost because of their lifestyle and because of things that have become cultural norms. So connecting those two dots is why he created Pain-Free Outdoors. 17:45 - We talked about some things that a person can do today or this week to be more active. The Big piece of the puzzle for Cody is body shape recognition. The ability to see it and say, Okay, I'm in good shape versus bad form. So, that awareness is always the biggest part for him when teaching because all the training he gives is based on that shape. 20:15 - Cody mentioned that a lot of people are going to see it as yoga, bu

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/470 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Dette Flies, Bearvault, Drifthook Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today's guest is someone I've been eagerly trying to get on the podcast for a while, and now it's finally happening! Kate Crump is here to talk about fishing Bristol Bay and what it's like to run an Alaskan lodge. We'll also learn about the art of swinging flies for King Salmon and discover what makes this place a haven for crazy-sized fish, including rainbows. Did I mention we'll even get a sneak peek into their steelhead operation in the lower 48? This is going to be one wild ride! Fishing Bristol Bay Show Notes with Kate Crump 03:20 - Kate and Justin have been in Alaska since April to prepare for this season. We hear about the different projects they're working on with the help of their friends and family before they open on June 17 with their first group of guests. 08:12 - Kate and Justin worked as guides for a number of years before they decided to have their own lodge. The Lodge at 58 North operated as a DIY property before, so the Crumps rallied their families and friends to assist them with the major remodeling of the place. 12:45 - The Naknek River is their home water, but they also fly to locations like Katmai National Park, Nushagak River, and Becharof National Wildlife Refuge, using their float plane, a de Havilland Beaver. 13:04 - Kate also dreams of flying their float plane. This reminds me of an episode featuring Tim Rawlins of LineSpeedJedi, who shared his experience flying a float plane in Alaska. Different Species at Bristol Bay 15:41 - According to Kate, Bristol Bay is the greatest swung fly fishery for rainbows in the world. But they also have people coming up in June specifically for King salmon because the Nushagak is home to the largest runs of King Salmon. 19:41 - Kate tells us what makes Bristol Bay so special compared to other fishing locations in Alaska. We also hear about the management practices for sockeye salmon in their area. 25:47 - Kate describes the diverse fishing experiences available at their lodge. They are a small operation that accommodates a single group of eight guests or two groups of four. This setup allows for a personalized and intimate experience for each fishing trip. 34:00 - Kate walks us through the different seasons up there. Additionally, we delve into whether they have plans to make Alaska their permanent home in the future. 42:23 - We talk about fishing for King Salmon and the important regulations in place to protect them. 49:58 - Kate shares insights about the rainbows in their area and discusses the perfect rod for targeting them. We also delve into the incredible abundance of sockeye salmon up there. The Crumps in Oregon's North Coast 58:22 - Kate shares a glimpse into their steelhead operation in the lower 48 and how it differs from their guiding experiences in Alaska. 1:00:54 - Kate says she is the only female fishing guide on the north coast. She opens up about the barriers she encountered and her mentor, Nancy Morris Lyon, the first female fishing guide in Bristol Bay. 1:13:32 - Kate loves hiking into small streams and fishing for rainbow trout in June and July. Her go-to mouse pattern is RIO's Pip Squeak. 1:16:00 - Kate enjoys listening to music while flying around on their float plane or when she's out on a boat. 1:18:13 - Kate always makes sure to have her sunglasses and rain jacket with her when venturing into the backcountry, and she recalls a time when she forgot her rain jacket and vowed never to make that mistake again. As a Patagonia ambassador, she highly recommends their Swiftcurrent rain jacket. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/470

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/469 Presented By: Daiichi, Trxstle, Mavrk Fly Fishing, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today we're kicking off with Part 1 of an exciting two-part series focusing on stillwater fly lines. We're going to get an understanding of why you need multiple lines to be consistently successful on lakes, and we'll be taking a close look at different types of floating lines to help you make informed choices and get the most bang for your buck. Throughout this two-part series, we'll explore Phil's impressive collection of 20 stillwater fly lines, uncovering the secrets behind each line's purpose and functionality. Phil will also guide us through selecting the three fly lines you should consider having with you at all times. Stillwater Fly Lines Show Notes with Phil Rowley 04:12 - When it comes to river and stream fishing, an excellent floating line will last you a long time and allow you to present your fly using various techniques. But the multitude of available fly lines can be overwhelming and intimidating when it comes to lakes. 07:25 - Phil carries over 20 fly lines in his kit bag because he likes to be prepared for different fishing situations. 09:07 - Some people think the only way stillwater fly fishermen fish lakes is with a strike indicator and a floating line. Phil says it is a deadly presentation technique he uses all the time, but it is NOT the only way to catch fish when fishing lakes. Factors to Consider When Choosing a Fly Line 10:19 - Wind is an essential factor, and a weight-forward line helps manage the wind and achieve longer casts to cover more water and increase the chances of catching fish. 11:13 - When Phil first started, double taper lines were popular. It provided a more delicate presentation when fishing to surface-feeding fish, particularly in rivers and streams, but you also had to cast a lot to get that line speed built up to cover any distance. A weight forward line has the weight concentrated in the first 30 to 40 feet, allowing for efficient casting and generating line speed. 12:41 - Another thing to consider is the depth of the water. We need lines to sink at different rates to present our flies at different depths. 13:00 - The retrieve speed is also crucial. You need to have a line that will sink slowly as well, so the sink rate of the line doesn't overpower the horizontal retrieve speed you're using to imitate what you're trying to imitate. 13:36 - Fish activity is also closely correlated with retrieve speed. When fish are active and aggressive, faster-sinking lines can be used. 14:31 - Phil also stresses the importance of being versatile, as relying on a single presentation technique can limit success. The best time to try out a new line is when fishing conditions are favorable. How Fly Lines Are Made 17:08 - Different line requirements and fishing environments influence fly line manufacturers' design. The outer coating determines its weight, buoyancy, color, and slickness, while the core of the fly line is where its strength lies. The different types are: Multifilament cores Braided monofilament cores Monofilament cores Low-stretch cores 18:40 - Stiffer cores, like monofilament cores, help provide tight loops and good line speed. Manufacturers offer a variety of lines tailored to specific fishing disciplines to ensure better enjoyment and meet the needs of anglers on the water. 22:57 - Different presentation challenges require different line profiles and tapers to be successful. For example, casting indicators and long leaders need a different line profile and taper than fishing dries, emerges, or lightly weighted nymphs. 24:22 - Besides indicators, Phil loves to fish with long leaders, known as the naked technique. 25:06 - Phil uses the RIO Elite Technical Trout line. This line has a long taper line that provides excellent turnover and delicate presentation. 24:45 - Low-stretch fly lines are less elastic than regular multifilament core lines. Low-stretch lines offer benefits during fish fights by efficiently transferring rod actions to the fish, allowing anglers to tire the fish more quickly in catch-and-release scenarios. Phil Rowley's Guide to 20 Essential Stillwater Fly Lines 30:15 - Phil Rowley discusses the use of floating lines in Stillwater fly fishing, specifically focusing on their application for indicator presentations, the naked technique, and floating lines for dries, emergers, and unweighted or lightly weighted nymphs in shallow water situations. Floating Lines for Indicators and the Naked Technique 30:53 - When looking for a line to cast an indicator or the naked technique, it is essential to have a line designed for that purpose. These lines have oversized heads and maybe one and a half to two line weights heavier to provide the necessary mass for turning over indicators and long leaders. 35:14 - Phil is a big proponent of using the roll cast when fishing with indicators. Roll casting keeps the indicator, lead

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/468 Presented by: Trxstle, Togens Fly Shop, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Geri Meyer is here to talk about all things driftless fly fishing. We will discover what the crane fly hatch is all about, we will get the top caddis flies and how to fish them, and then walk through her patterns and tips for fishing the driftless area. We will also find out what the Driftless Angler and the Women's Fly Shop are all about. Sit back, relax, and let's talk about driftless fly fishing with Geri Meyer, co-owner of Driftless Angler and Women's Fly Shop. Driftless Fly Fishing Show Notes with Geri Meyer 3:07 - Geri takes us back quickly to when she first got into fly fishing. She wasn't attracted to fishing when she was young, but her interest was piqued when she and her family had a casting lesson in Oregon. 4:12 - She and her husband Mat Wagner, also a proficient angler, visited the driftless area in Wisconsin, immediately fell in love with it, and decided to move there. 7:17 - She tells what she loves about living and fishing in New Mexico versus Wisconsin. 8:04 - She tells more about the streams in the driftless area in Wisconsin which is her favorite place to fish. Brook trout and brown trout are the usual species you can catch in this area. 10:14 - There is also a big chunk of driftless in Iowa, but not as big in Wisconsin. Their fishing season stays open year-round. 11:22 - We talk a bit about fishing in Mississippi which she says is an absolute blast during the summer. 12:33 - We dig into their shop which is the Driftless Angler. They hand out maps to clients that give rough information on the streams and watersheds in their area. 14:20 - May is their prime month for fishing in the area. She mentions some of the hatches in the summer such as colored mayflies, crane flies, and caddis. 15:33 - We talk about what the peak season looks like in their streams. For those who are planning to visit their area, they can check the seasons and hatches on their website. 19:23 - We talk about crane flies which she says are difficult to tie. Their go-to cranefly is the Coulee Cranefly which they also sell in their shop. 21:52 - Their caddis time lasts until the end of the summer. Some of the hatches they also get are olives, mayflies, sulphurs, and cahills. More of the bugs and hatches can be found on their website. 23:06 - She mentions some of the popular dries they use for caddis such as elk hair and missing link. 25:20 - She gives her top five patterns and other favorites to have in her box for the whole summer. Her number one is the hippie stomper, followed by purple drank, scuds, pink squirrel, and film critic. 28:27 - I mention our episode with Jason Randall where we also talked about the Driftless area. 28:54 - We go into the detail on how she fishes her favorite flies that she mentioned. For the scud, she dead drifts it and puts a little bounce to it. 34:08 - The biggest she has caught in their streams is a 15-inch brookie. She also shares a bit of her perspective on the brook trout population. 37:04 - There are many great campgrounds in their area. One of which is the Vernon County Campgrounds. A list of other lodging, hotels, cabins, and camp areas can be found on their website. 37:55 - We talk about fishing in Mississippi. She loves fishing for smallmouth bass. 43:28 - They start musky fishing on October 15th and then host trips in January. They do a lot of trips to Argentina, Brazil, and other places. 45:45 - She describes how they do their hosted trips. 49:13 - She talks about the Women's Fly Shop and how it started. 50:48 - I ask her perspective on the population and involvement of women in fly fishing. She also suggests some efforts that the fishing community can do to encourage more women to join the sport. 58:00 - We dig into gear. She loves the kits from Echo and Orvis. They carry those in their shop. 1:03:50 - We do the Fly Shop Friday segment. She recommends other fly shops near their area such as Root River Rod Co., Orvis shop in Preston, Rod & Rivet, Musky Fool, Tight Lines, and a few others. 1:05:55 - She gives some valuable tips on fishing in the driftless area. 1:07:45 - She likes listening to music from the '70s to the early '80s. She loves Queen and Dr. Hook. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/468

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/467 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Dette Flies, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors George Daniel, the Director of the Joe Humphreys Teaching Program at Penn State University and a former member of Fly Fishing Team USA, returns to the podcast with exciting updates. Currently teaching multiple sections at Penn State, George explains why he doesn't include euro nymphing in his basic class. He also dives into his fly fishing clinics and provides detailed information about his popular book, Dynamic Nymphing. George reveals valuable tips for fishing pools using a euro nymph setup and highlights the advantages of using an ultra-thin monofilament system. Prepare to be captivated by George's fascinating stories and extensive expertise as he immerses you in the dynamic world of fly fishing! Show Notes with George Daniel on Dynamic Nymphing 03:00 - George was on the podcast for the first time at WFS 055 where we mainly talked about his teaching philosophy, guiding, Joe Humphries, and a number of other great topics including fishing Musky. 03:50 - George now teaches full-time at Penn State University. He is now the Director of the Joe Humphreys Fly Fishing Program. He teaches a total of 7 sections there with about 25 students in each section. 09:20 - George talks about how he teaches fly fishing clinics. 11:00 - We dig into one of the books he wrote, Dynamic Nymphing: Tactics, Techniques, and Flies from Around the World. 13:20 - George states that "80% of the problems people have with euro nymphing is lack of line control". He explains why. 17:05 - We talk about how he fishes pools with a euro nymph setup. 21:00 - George talks about how an ultra-thin monofilament system takes a lot of the guessing work out when hooking a fish. 22:30 - George describes how euro nymphing rods eliminated the need for tapered leaders. 27:20 - We talk about Joe Humphreys, who was already Czech nymphing before the Czech Republic was a country. He also noted Frank Sawyer, the guy who created Pheasant Tail Nymph and was fishing 12-foot cane poles back in the day. 29:55 - George doesn't teach Euro nymphing with his basic class because his students lose interest in dry fly and streamer fishing. 33:00 - We noted Joe Humphreys's book on Trout Tactics where George learned his foundations in nymphing until he joined the US Fly Fishing Team. 34:00 - Lance Egan and Jeff Currier were already on the team when George joined. 36:20 - George tells the story of when he went to Northern Italy for a year and he was the Captain of the team. 37:45 - George talks about trail running every day for 10 years straight and only missing 3 days. 43:00 - George talks about how Devin Olsen has immensely evolved throughout the years. 43:44 - George talks about how his book, Dynamic Nymphing came to be with the help of Jay Nichols from Stackpole Books. 45:10 - George has a YouTube channel. Check out his videos here. 46:10 - George also wrote 2 other books called, Strip-Set: Fly-Fishing Techniques, Tactics, & Patterns for Streamers, and Nymph Fishing: New Angles, Tactics, and Techniques. He's working on his 4th book called, Fly Fishing Evolution which is expected to be published in October 2023. 49:20 - George has a Masterclass Series on Vimeo that you can stream. 50:17 - He talks about one of his favorite patterns, the Sunburst Sulfur which is a perdigon pattern, and describes how he fishes it. 53:00 - George talks about Karst Geology and Limestone Stream in Central PA. 56:55 - George noted some of the conservation groups in Central PA like the Clearwater Conservancy, Trout Unlimited, and others. 1:02:10 - George tells the story of when he unintentionally kicked a musky when he was snorkeling. 1:07:20 - George talks about playing basketball in high school and getting a scholarship for it. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/467

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/466 Presented By: Togens Fly Shop, Dette Flies, Bearvault, Mavrk Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors It's boat talk today with Chris Callanan as we delve deep into Outcast Boats. We explore his tips on finding the perfect boat, including their unique tweaks to float tubes and the significance of internal bladders in all their boats. We also gain valuable insights into the boating industry. Let's jump into the realm of boats, float tubes, and of course, fly fishing from a whole new perspective. Outcast Boats Show Notes with Chris Callanan 03:16 - We did a stillwater event with Phil Rowley, giving away a Fish Cat 4 Float Tube from Outcast. Chris reveals that the Fish Cat 4 is their top-selling float tube because of its good design and materials. And speaking of float tubes, we look back to the '80s and '90s and explore the evolution and notable differences between float tubes of the past and the designs and materials used in today's models. 05:00 - Outcast provides a range of float tube sizes to cater to individuals' varying needs and sizes. They have two models for the bigger guys: the Prowler and the Fish Cat 5 Max. Chris Callanan's Fly Fishing Story 07:00 - Chris grew up in Buffalo, New York. His father was a physician who loved fishing and hunting, so they moved to Idaho, where he and his dad spent their weekends fishing together. 07:53 - Chris had the opportunity to work during the summers as a fishing guide for the Yellowstone Angler, becoming George Anderson's second employee. 09:26 - Today, Chris lives in Idaho and is working for AIRE, with Outcast as the fishing side of the company. AIRE and Outcast Sporting Gear Products 16:47 - Outcast has been in business since 1995. According to Chris, one notable feature of their products is the inclusion of internal bladders. He breaks down the significance of these bladders to safety and simplified repair processes. 22:51 - We discuss frameless boats like the Fish Cat Scout IGS and the OSG Stealth Pro. 24:57 - Phil Rowley is a big fan of the PAC 9000, an exceptional all-around boat offered by Outcast. 27:35 - The PAC 1400 is the top-selling raft frame on the Outcast side. For AIRE, it's the Super Duper Puma. 30:06 - Chris recommends the OSG Clearwater and OSG Commander if you're steelhead fishing. The OSG Commander is more of a kayak-style boat. For Chris, the OSG Clearwater is also an excellent all-around boat. 35:19 - The OSG Striker is one of the staff-favorite. It is a frameless two-person raft that weighs 100 lbs. 39:00 - Besides their boats, Outcast offers a wide range of boating accessories, including fins, oar locks, oar stops, oars, pumps, and more. They also offer durable bags made from leftover boat materials. 39:54 - Chris highly recommends the AIRE 136DD as the perfect boat for longer trips, including full weekends and overnight adventures. 46:59 - We also talk about our stillwater guru, Phil Rowley, who has a long-standing partnership with Outcast. 50:43 - Chris provides a detailed breakdown of the business operations at Outcast. Coffee Talk with Chris 1:00:00 - Chris loves black coffee and admits to being a coffee snob, having lived in Seattle for a while. He also enjoys making his coffee. 1:02:00 - Chris admits to still using the rod George Anderson gave him 40 years ago during his time at the Yellowstone Angler. He uses a 6-wt. rod for everything, a choice that Phil playfully teases him about. 1:03:48 - Chris loves the Smartless and The Rewatchables. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/466

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/465 Presented By: Yellowstone Teton, Trxstle Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready for an exciting episode as we take another dive into the enchanting realm of Henry's Fork - an angler's paradise. Mike Lawson, founder of Henry's Fork Anglers and a fly fishing author, is back on the podcast for the second time to take us on a captivating journey through the vibrant hatches, diverse waters, and hidden gems at Henry's Fork. We learn the art of matching the hatch and discover the magic behind renowned patterns like the Renegade, Speckled Spinner, and Parachute Adams. Mike unveils the secrets of Henry's Fork, sharing its unique features like spring creeks and tailwaters, and some insights on setting up your fly box. We also get to know the friendly experts at the Henry's Fork Anglers fly shop. Stay tuned as we unravel the wonders in one of the world's top fly fishing destinations. Show Notes with Mike Lawson on Fly Fishing Henry's Fork 02:00 - We had Mike on the podcast for the first time in episode 190. 03:45 - The Greendrake hatch typically starts sometime after June 15 at Henry's Fork. 04:45 - They recently had a long winter snow so they anticipate Salmonfly hatch soon. It typically lasts for only 7 to 10 days. 06:20 - From September until October, they have some Blue-winged Olived and occasional Mahogany Dunns from early to late September depending on what the year is like weatherwise. 08:00 - You can visit HenrysForkAnglers.com to check out the chart of different hatches at Henry's Fork. 08:45 - Mike wrote 2 books with Stackpole - Spring Creeks and Fly-Fishing Guide to the Henry's Fork: Hatches, Flies, Seasons & Guide Advice for 80 Miles of World-Class Water 10:59 - Mike talks about what makes Henry's Fork special, describing its diversity from spring creeks to tail waters, and more. 13:41 - We talk about the different hatches and the fly that matches. 22:45 - We talk about Harriman State Park. 29:25 - Mike talks about how he sets up his fly boxes. 31:28 - Tricos at Henry's Fork hatch in July and peaks in August. 35:20 - We noted the Renegade fly pattern, the insect it imitates, and why it works. 46:50 - We noted the Speckled Spinner fly which matches with Calibates species. 48:40 - Parachute Adams is still one of the best all-around dry flies. 52:25 - Flav Mayfly is one of Mike's favorite hatches in the Summer. 53:43 - Mike explains when you would use a hackle versus a no-hackle fly. 58:30 - We touch on the Spotted Sedges fly. 1:04:00 - If you want to visit the Henry's Fork Anglers fly shop, you can look for Chris or Andy to get some assistance. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/465

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/464 Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Waters West, BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Join me and Topher on an exciting adventure into the world of Atlantic salmon fishing! He takes us to stunning rivers in Quebec and famous spots like Norway, where these magnificent fish are waiting to be caught. Topher will spill all the details about his epic fishing trips, like the time he reeled in a whopping 45 salmon in just one week! He's always up for a challenge and loves finding fish that give him a real fight. Learn all about what affects salmon behavior, like temperature and water levels, and discover the secrets to picking the perfect fly. Topher's got some awesome favorites, like the fancy Picasse pattern. He'll also spill the beans on gear and techniques that work best. If you've ever wondered about Atlantic salmon fishing, Topher's got all the answers to the burning questions. Get ready for thrilling tales of success and learn about the important conservation efforts in the mix. Get hooked on the enchanting world of Atlantic salmon fishing in this super exciting episode! Show Notes with Topher Browne on Fishing for Atlantic Salmon 05:30 - Quebec has one of the best pay-to-play access to fish Atlantic salmon. In Nova Scotia, you have to get a salmon license for about 125 CAD to fish any rivers there the whole season. 08:30 - The Kola Peninsula in Russia is a great destination for Atlantic salmon but unfortunately, it's now closed because of the recent war. Topher noted that Norway and Quebec are his two favorites for Atlantic salmon fishing. 17:10 - Topher's best week for fishing Atlantic salmon is when he caught 45 of them. 18:10 - Topher is looking for fish that will kick his ass. 23:05 - Temperature affects the Atlantic salmon numbers and activity but it has more to do with water levels. 26:30 - Topher talks about the book, Greased Line Fishing. 32:20 - Topher wrote a book for Wild River Press called, Atlantic Salmon Magic which took 2nd place in the National Book Awards. 43:20 - Bigger flies (4 to 5 inches long) work better if the river is big and muddy so that the fish can see it. If the water is clear, you can use smaller flies. 46:25 - Topher's favorite fly is the Picasse fly pattern which is a French-Canadian fly. 50:30 - Topher teaches Spey casting lessons with Rick Kustich and a few other Spey anglers. 53:50 - In a good season, the average weight of Atlantic salmon they catch is around 12 to 14 pounds. 56:00 - We've had Rick Kustich on the podcast at WFS 277 where we dug into advanced tactics for steelhead fishing. 59:00 - Topher talks about Spey Nation. Check out the events schedule here. 1:02:00 - The frequently asked questions about Atlantic salmon fishing are: 1. What should I get for gear? -Topher recommends a 14-foot, 8 or 9-wt rod if you are to bring just one rod. Then use a floating line. He breaks down the other options. 2. How do I set a hook on a wet fly? If that fly is coming across, what do I do? -You really don't want to do very much. Topher explains why. 1:11:45 - Travis Johnson recently won Spey-O-Rama at the Golden Gate. 1:17:15 - Topher got featured on Forbes.com, authored by Monte Burke. Read that article here. Topher recommends getting Monte on the podcast. 1:19:40 - We talk about Long Rod Resurgence. 1:25:55 - We noted Whitney Gould, who's the best fly caster in North America between single-handed and two-handed. She's won Spey-O-Rama 8 times. She also won the US National Casting Tournament. 1:29:50 - Topher noted the conservation group, Atlantic Salmon Federation based in New Brunswick Canada. He serves on their National Counsel. He also noted the North Atlantic Salmon Fund in Iceland. Lastly, he noted the Atlantic Salmon Trust in UK. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/464

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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/463 Presented By: Waters West, FishHound Expeditions, Chota Outdoor Gear, Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Jon Hazlett is our guide today as we conquer the world of Rogue River fly fishing. We hear Jon's captivating tales, from his early guiding misadventures in Alaska to his favorite boat to use in the Rogue. What is on the menu today? Our main course is spey with a side of steelhead. Don't miss out on this exciting escapade on the Rogue River with Jon. Rogue River Fly Fishing Show Notes with Jon Hazlett 03:35 - Jon got into fly fishing when he was 11. 06:51 - Jon got into guiding in 1998 through his close friend, Chris Lyda, who was guiding in Rainbow King Lodge in Alaska. He also recounts the unexpected events that led him to be fired from that very job. 09:39 - Jon's friend Chris Lyda helped him secure a job in Elk Creek Lodge in Colorado, where he guided for trout and even dabbled in elk hunting. It was during this period that Jon met his first wife, who hailed from Southern Oregon, ultimately leading him to discover the Rogue River. 10:15 - During his three seasons of guiding at Elk Creek Lodge, Jon met Brian Gies from Fly Water Travel, and that's how he got into guiding the Rogue River. 13:40 - Jon talks about the Rogue River and the fishing opportunities there. 20:08 - Jon paints a picture of what a trip to the Rogue would look like. 25:59 - Jon discusses the different techniques they use when fishing the Rogue River. Jon says he bases all his decisions on the water type, water conditions, and the time of day. 29:09 - Jon prefers to use an AIRE 136DD raft when Rogue River Fly fishing. Spey Lessons with Jon 32:43 - Jon talks about his spey lessons and his website. We also hear about some of Jon's guiding stories. We had John Gierach on the show, and he talked about some good guides. 39:26 - Jon talks about the times he fished with Simon Gawesworth and Charles St. Pierre. 43:00 - Jon breaks down the D-Loop Stroke and the other casting tips and techniques he teaches. 52:30 - Jon recommends the Rogue Valley Anglers Fly Shop as a great resource for people who want to hit the Rogue River. Coffee Talk with Jon Hazlett 53:50 - Jon's go-to snack when Rogue Fly Fishing is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, beef jerky, and nuts. He recommends the Old Trapper Beef Jerky. Jon also hunts, so he usually has deer and elk pepperoni sticks. 54:58 - Jon listens to music or the NFL Network. He is also a big Pearl Jam fan. 55:57 - Jon suggests checking out the Common Block Brew Pub for people visiting the Rogue. 56:15 - If Jon were to pursue a professional career in a sport, he would opt to become a football player. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/463

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/462 Presented by: Bearvault, Daiichi, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Jani Himanko is here to talk about fishing Finland and give us amazing options and resources on your next trip there. We find out who the other European lodges that run drift boats are. We also get a feel for this lodge and the restaurant that is literally on the river. We get an insight into the European Hall of Fame as well. Everything Finland today! Let's find out how to plan that next European vacation. Fishing Finland Show Notes with Jani Himanko 3:48 - Jani shares his first memory of fly fishing. When he saw the film A River Runs Through It, he was hooked. That's the main reason he became a fly fisher. 5:26 - He tells the interesting story of how he got to own the Kapeenkoski and how he was hesitant at first to take the opportunity. Currently, they also offer rafting and river boarding besides fishing. 11:12 - They have a place in the lodge for dining and private parties like weddings. This is located by the water which he calls a "trout land" because it's a perfect place for trouts to spawn. 14:51 - We talk about why he chose Willie Boats for their drift boats. Their river has a lot of rocks that's why they prefer aluminum boats. For the oars, I recommend him the ones from Sawyer. 16:39 - He describes Finland as very similar to Norway and Sweden in terms of language and culture. He also talks a bit more about Norway. He loves going there every year to fish with his friends. We also covered fly fishing in Norway in episodes 286 and 419. 19:40 - The closes city to their lodge is Jyvaskyla. He tells us how to visit their lodge if you're flying from New York. According to Jani, you won't be able to find Kapeenkonski on the map. Instead, search for Laukaa or Äänekoivisto. 21:51 - He mentions the species you can find in their river such as brown trout, grayling, and pike-perch or zander. They also have 20-30 lb. northern pikes. 23:28 - We dig into their guided fishing and the fishing seasons at Kapeenkoski. They are already sold out for June this year, but they have availability for July to August. 27:25 - We dig into his fishing techniques. Streamer fishing is his favorite fly fishing method. He also shares a bit about his clients' experiences. 31:45 - The best season for dry flies is late July to August. The Goddard caddis in size 10, 12, or 14 is the best pattern to have in your box. He also recommends the Swedish Super pupa. 33:56 - Aside from the fishing laws in Finland, he also makes the local fishing rules. Clients can euro nymph in their waters, but there are some restrictions which he explains further. 37:37 - We go back to dry fly fishing. 39:04 - He gives tips and information on creating your itinerary for Finland. We also talk a bit about European beers and drinks. He drinks Lonkero which he says is the Finnish national drink of fly fishermen. 43:34 - He tells a funny story about that time when he and his wife visited Munich, Germany. 45:10 - I ask him what food they usually serve their clients in Kapeenkoski. We also talk about the seasons and culture in Finland. The best time to visit is summer. 49:15 - He tells his favorite Guns N' Roses song and album. 50:20 - He shares his perspective on how Finland is different from Germany. We also dig into their country's history involving Russia and other European countries. He already has been to the Kola Peninsula in Russia many times to fish. 55:50 - When Jani was 19, he did military training for 11 months and served as a chef there. 59:16 - We talk about hunting in Finland. The species they usually hunt are ducks and moose. 1:00:41 - We dig into how they do streamer fishing. His friend, Mika Vainio, whom he says is one of the best streamer fishermen in Finland created the Musta Kostaja or "The Black Avenger". 1:04:08 - They have this Finnish fly called Surffilauta or the "surfboard tube fly". It's a dry fly, but it's a streamer. 1:07:09 - I ask him about his recognition as the driving force behind fishing tourism in Central Finland. His name can be found in the Finnish Fishing Hall of Fame in Kotka's Maretarium. 1:07:48 - He also writes articles for some fishing magazines such as Metsastys ja Kalastus which he says is the biggest fishing magazine in Scandinavia. 1:08:46 - I ask him about Scandinavia and fishing in Estonia. He also mentions some rivers in Finland that are great for fishing and the species you can find in each of them. 1:12:11 - We talk a bit about hockey in Finland. Jyp Jyvaskyla is his hometown's team. 1:13:40 - He shares his experience in raising his two daughters. 1:16:20 - He used to be a salesman at Rapala, a lure company. For rods and other fishing gear in Finland, he recommends Vision Fly Fishing. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/462

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/461 Presented By: Trxstle, Yellowstone Teton, Jackson Hole Fly Company Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we'll hear the incredible stories and adventures of Barry, a seasoned guide on Bow River. From his unexpected start as a boat rower to becoming a guide in 1977, Barry's story is full of exciting twists. Get ready to be amazed as he tells us about his unforgettable moments with famous angler Lefty Kreh and the fascinating history and geology of the area. Find out how the river's landscape has changed over time due to big floods that reshaped the map. We discover the secrets of fishing the Bow River, including the best times to fish it and fly patterns to use. Barry's expertise shines as he reveals the magic of fishing in July when the days are long and you can fish late into the night. Learn about Barry's exciting floating adventures, how he adapts to different clients' skills, and the fly shops that keep the fishing spirit alive in Calgary. And before we wrap up, we take a sneak peek into Barry's book, "My Bow River," filled with captivating fish pictures. Get ready to dive into the world of the Bow River, its hatches, and the enduring love for this incredible Canadian gem. Show Notes with Barry White - Bow River Fly Fishing 03:40 - We talk about what makes Banff a National Park in Canada. 04:30 - Barry shares the story of how Jim McLennan offered him to row their boat at Bow River Company and after one week started guiding for them. This was 1977. 07:10 - Lefty Kreh and Barry did a video on the Bow River. Unfortunately, we can't find that video on YouTube. They spent 6 days on the boat, fishing 13:00 - Bow River flows through Hudson Bay. Barry talks a little bit about the geology and history of the area. 15:30 - Barry talks about how the 3 major floodings widened the rivers in Alberta since the 1980s. Some islands disappeared on the map too. 20:00 - Barry tells the story of when Lefty flew into town. Days before that, they had a rainstorm which added 5 feet of water to the river, making it totally unfishable. When Lefty arrived, it went back to normal and they had great fishing. 23:40 - July is the best time to fish the Bow River since the water gets shallow and clean which the fish loves. 27:45 - The longest distance Barry floated is 20 miles which took him 6-7 hours. He tells us how he did it. 37:10 - Barry's setup depends on his client's ability to cast. 37:50 - A Chernobyl Ant pattern makes a good stonefly pattern. The Girdle Bug pattern makes a good dropper. Barry also like Whitlock's Beadhead Squirrel Nymph. 43:50 - In July, it doesn't get dark in Alberta until 11 pm so they can fish from 6 am to 11 pm. 47:00 - Barry talks about the book he wrote, My Bow River. This book is filled with fish pics. 52:20 - Barry talks about the different hatches they have throughout all seasons. 54:00 - Barry used to own 6 boats. Now he only has 1 and it's 35 years old. 59:00 - We hear a story of when Barry dumped their boat during a guided trip. 1:02:15 - We noted some fly shops in Calgary including the Fishin' Hole Fly Shop, Fish Tales Fly Shop, and Bow River Troutfitters. Bow River Conclusion with Barry White In conclusion, this show provided a fascinating exploration of the Bow River and its significance as part of Banff National Park in Canada. Barry, the guest speaker, shared captivating stories and insights about his experiences guiding and fishing on the river. He discussed the geology, history, and environmental changes that have shaped the area, including the impact of major floodings. The discussion also touched on the best time to fish the Bow River, recommended fly patterns, and the diverse hatches throughout the seasons. Barry's book, "My Bow River," was mentioned as a valuable resource filled with fish pictures. The episode concluded with a mention of fly shops in Calgary, providing useful information for those interested in exploring the area further. Overall, this show was an engaging and informative journey into the world of fishing on the Bow River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/461

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/460 Presented By: Bearvault, Drifthook Fly Fishing Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Get ready to catch the big one as we jump back into Great Lakes fly fishing today. We know how much you love this, so we're serving up another dose of steelhead wisdom and adventure from the Great Lakes Dude, Jeff Liskay. We continue where we left off, building a roadmap to Great Lakes Steelhead. This time, we cover the equipment, presentation, and of course, the flies. Great Lakes Fly Fishing Show Notes with Jeff Liskay 00:34 - No Great Lakes Dude episode is ever complete without a classic story from Jeff. This time, he takes us back to 1971 when he landed his first King Salmon. 04:19 - We pick up right where we left off in episode #2 of Great Lakes Dude, where we explored the steelhead awareness zone. Jeff Liskay on Fly Presentation 04:25 - Presenting your fly first starts with your equipment. Jeff often gets asked about the ideal rod and line to buy. When choosing a rod, consider where you'll fish the most. 05:38 - Longer rods provide better line management and control over our presentation than shorter ones. 06:35 - It's all about payload delivery when choosing rods and lines. There's no bad rod or line, just bad rod-to-line matching for what you're trying to achieve. Single-Hand Rod Set Ups 07:23 - A 10 ft long with 6, 7, or 8 wt. is recommended for single-hand rods. A 7 wt rod is suitable for smaller venues like Ohio and PA. 08:02 - Regarding lines, the two choices are streamer lines or steelhead taper lines. Jeff's go-to is the Scientific Anglers Mastery Titan Taper Fly Line. For larger venues, Jeff uses the Scientific Angler Anadro Indicator. 09:59 - If Jeff had to pick one rod that might do it all, he would choose a 10 ft 8 wt single-hand rod. Switch and Two-Hand Rod Set Ups 10:31 - Ohio, PA, New York, and all the other Great Lakes Venues can be classified into two categories. The first one is switch trout spey and short spey. This family of rods starts at 10 ft 6 inches to 11 ft. 9 inches, ranging from 4 wt. to 8 wt. 11:19 - Jeff generally leans towards Skagit lines, and when selecting a grain window for a switch rod or short spey, he finds that the 400 to 450 range can get the job done. 13:23 - Jeff walks us through the setup for two-hand rods. According to him, these rods typically range from 12 ft to 15 ft in length and range from 6 wt to 10 wt. 20:12 - For those starting, Jeff's recommendation is to learn it all. 22:01 - Jeff discusses the pros and cons of swung flies. 29:09 - When presenting a fly, the rod's position and casting angle are all part of the equation. 37:37 - Jeff talks about line mending and suggests that one needs to be good at aggressive mends rather than minor adjustments typically used in trout fishing. 40:00 - Jeff's fly box contains a greater variety of sizes and colors rather than a wide range of distinct patterns. 44:50 - Jeff's rule for your tip system is to fish with a shorter distance when the water is cold or dirty and to fish with a longer distance when the water is warm and clear. 46:00 - Jeff discusses the factors to consider when choosing the right sink tip. Choosing the Right Fly 55:36 - Jeff recommends baitfish patterns, egg patterns, and some aquatic bug patterns for nymphing. Pick one or two patterns for each and tie those in three sizes to match the water clarity. 57:48 For swung fly patterns, Jeff says he mostly fishies unweighted flies. He uses three sizes of his six best patterns for low, average, and high water conditions. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/460

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/459 Presented by: Trxstle, Stonefly Nets Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Richard Wilby, the man behind Forged Fly Fishing, shares his journey of creating a fly reel company and a fishing gear company simultaneously. He shares his lineup of reels, what it's like living in Merritt BC, and the rich stillwaters of the area around this part of the world. We also find out which is the perfect stillwater reel. Forged Fly Fishing Show Notes with Richard Wilby 3:10 - Richard tells how he first got into fly fishing and why he started his company, Forged Fly Fishing. The first reel they launched was called Requiem in remembrance of his father. 5:32 - Not soon after releasing the Requiem, they launched the Royale which is now upgraded to be called Anthem Steelhead/Spey Reel. 6:15 - He explains the difference between a center pin reel and a mooching reel. 6:55 - For stillwater fishing, they have the Invictus Fly Reel which is a smaller version of the Anthem. 7:43 - We dig into his process of starting a fly reel company. The most difficult part of his journey was finding proper manufacturers. 10:05 - He has complete control over every aspect of the design of their reels. He shares more about the process of designing their products. 12:18 - He talks about their current location in Merritt BC which is his sister's cattle ranch. 13:39 - He mentions some places in their area where you can catch giant Kamloops rainbows. His favorite lake to fish in is Knouff Lake. 15:48 - He uses the Swellfish Classic Inflatable Boat (12'10"). 17:23 - He proudly talks about his Pro Staff at Forged Fly Fishing. 18:53 - We dig into the other company he started in 2018 called Spitfire Fishing Products. He named it after his grandfather who fixed and designed machine guns for the Spitfire aircraft and the Hurricane during World War II. 21:31 - One of their sought-after products at Spitfire is their Hawker Spoons. All of their products at Spitfire are for ocean, stillwater, and any type of fishing. 24:53 - They also have Pro Staff at Spitfire. 26:11 - They have physical shops in their area. Their products are also available in several fly shops in Canada which you can find in the Retailers section on their website. 28:15 - He shares how he gets going out there during stillwater season. He fishes mostly in the spring and more in the fall. This year, he plans to do more river fishing. 29:52 - We dig into steelhead fishing. For steelhead runs, he usually goes to Cowichan River with a Scandi setup during winter right around Christmas. 33:37 - He gives a heads-up about their products at Forge Fly Fishing and Spitfire Fishing Products. 34:43 - We talk a bit about Riley, his dog which is a Golden Retriever and Border Collie cross. She loves the water. 35:28 - He tells more about what they do in his sister's cattle ranch. He and his wife have been helping out there. 39:40 - For stillwater fishing, his fly box usually contains a lot of leech, scud, and blob patterns. 41:12 - He talks about the new big thing that's coming out soon from Forged Fly Fishing. He also shares a significant tip for manipulating the reel while fishing. 45:09 - I ask him about his bucket list of trips. This includes Terrace and Kenai. 46:20 - For stillwater fishing, his go-to fly is a ruby-eye leech. 46:38 - He mentions some of the guys in their area who are reliable sources for fishing. Some of them are their Pro Staff at Forged and John Kent who designed the pumpkin head leech. 47:32 - He describes what it's like living in Merritt BC. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/459

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/458 Presented By: Waters West, Country Financial, Chota Outdoors, and Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Jeff Brady from Mystic Outdoors to share the story of how he purchased a fly rod company during Covid and what it took to keep this thing above water and growing. Jeff also digs into choosing the fly rods and what it takes to choose the right fly rod for the species you are chasing. You can listen to the entire the Podcast or read more below. Mystic Outdoors Show Notes with Jeff Brady 03:56 - Jeff had a great season and noted The Wasatch Fly Tying and Fly Fishing Expo 04:20 - Jeff also noted a really cool event in Colorado called Trout Fest. Trout Fest Colorado is a one of a kind summer festival and celebration of conservation, education, and fly fishing. 04:32 - Jeff mentioned that shows are a pricey investment but it's so much fun to see everybody, see your friends and talk a little business with people and meet people like us. 04:48 - We talked about the cost of the booth at a typical show, and as per Jeff, it depends on the show; the range is going to be anywhere from 800 to 2,000 dollars for a 10 by 10 booth. 05:32 - Jeff also mentioned the travel cost, logistics cost, shipping cost, and all those things. It's a major investment, but at the end of the day, typically, there's a big return that you look forward to. 06:29 - Jeff talks about Stillwater; that is one of the categories they are focusing on. Phil Rowley is Mystic Outdoors Ambassador and he's the host of our Littoral Zone Podcast. 06:55 - There's definitely been an increase in interest in Stillwater flyrods. Jeff mentioned that he has seen a big boom in the sale of his M-Series Fly Rods. 07:16 - Jeff mentioned that there are a lot of new fly-fishing men and women in the industry. There's been a large increase in fishing pressure, particularly in Colorado, Utah, the West, the North East, and the North West. People are looking for a little more solitude. Stillwater Fishing is one type of fishing that allows you to find more solitude on the water. 9:04 - Dave makes the analogy between Michael Jordan and Phil Rowley. Who do you think would win in a one on one fishing competition. 9:18 - Hey, Jeff attended the Denver The Fly Fishing Show this year. The Denver Fishing Show is one of the biggest fly fishing show of the year. 10:57 We talked about the live event from the giveaway where you get the chance to win a fishing trip and huge fly fishing gear pack. Click here to check out the next event 11:45 - Jeff was born and raised in the Dallas, Texas, area, and he went to college there. He always had a burning desire to be a ski bum because that's what he wanted to do. 13:00 Jeff failed his last college test and decided to move west with his 1987 4Runner packed up and ready to go. They headed to the Red River in Mexico. 17:38 - Jeff shared that all of their rods, from their premium entry-level rod, The Inception, all the way up to their trimmer saltwater line, were designed by Dennis Klein. Learn more about the Mystic Story here 20:25 - Jeff noted the popularity of there Reaper X Fly Rod. He also made a analogy of the blind cast off and how the Reaper X will stand up to any rod in the market. 24:56 - Jeff shared story about Dennis Klein who designed their every line up rods. 28:56 - Jeff talked about the Sapphyre Rod series and how it's one of the only women's fly rod series. 29:54 - Jeff shared that they have two rods in their line-up, the Inception Fly Rod and the Inception with Mystic Outdoors Case Special, that are manufactured in China. 34:00 - Jeff talked about Covid and how their business impacted the industry as a whole. He was incredibly impressed with the creativity that fly shops across the country came up with to stay afloat. 35:10 - Jeff shared their business strategy for 2020: get out to shows, get busy with the brands, and talk about the plans to reenter the fly-shop market. 35:28 - Jeff mentioned that when he was in Nebraska doing his day job in March 2020, he was planning to fly to Michigan to do the Midwest Fly Fishing Expo, but it was cancelled due to the pandemic and was diverted to Denver. 37:24 - We talked about how show season was a big part of their business particularly in 2020. 38:06 - Jeff shared that in 2020, even if there's a pandemic, the fly fishing industry will grow because, by nature, fly fishing is socially distancing and an outdoor activity, and people want to go outside. 38:42 - Jeff shared that they survived in 2020 and moved in 2021 by having more conversations with fly shops and starting to rebuild that kind of relationship. 41:09 - Jeff described how he pitches to a fly shop and 3 most important benefits he offers as a company to local fly shops. 44:11 - Jeff shared that he loves Trout Species, and he started to introduce Stillwater to his routine. 44:37 - Jeff talked about the last of May, together with his couple of friends in Baja Mexico. 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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/457 Presented By: Waters West, Trxstle, Mavrk Fly Fishing, Dette Flies Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors In this episode, we meet Craig Richardson - Head Guide at Fly Cast Away on St. Brandons Atoll, Guide at Como Maalifushi in the Maldives, and WorldCast Anglers. Craig's early entry into competitive fishing in South Africa sets the stage for our exploration of euro nymphing and the drawbacks of excessive tight lining. He shares an intriguing story about landing his first guiding opportunity in a tigerfish river, highlighting a significant milestone in his angling journey. Craig provides valuable recommendations for those dreaming of a Seychelles trip and discusses the amazing strength of Humphead Parrotfish, the angry nature of Giant Travellies, and the unpredictable allure of Triggerfish. The conversation also touches on Craig's fishing adventures with Jeff Currier and his current work at Bob Marriott's Fly Shop in Los Angeles, adding another exciting dimension to his angling journey. This episode is filled with insights, stories, and a shared passion for the sport. Show Notes with Craig Richardson 03:00 - We had Jako Lucas in the podcast in episode 281 where we dug into Jako's top 20 fly fishing destinations. 05:00 - An average Giant Trevally size is about 75-85cm. A bigger one is about a meter. And a huge one is about 115-120cm. 14:05 - Craig got into competitive fishing at 13 years old when he joined the youth team in South Africa. 18:00 - Craig tells the story of how he was offered his first guiding gig in a tigerfish river in South Africa. 26:30 - Baitfishing for carp is the largest community of fishermen in South Africa. 28:10 - Craig based all of his fishing knowledge on the book, Trout Hunter: The Way of an Angler by Rene Harrop. 35:00 - Craig explains why focusing too much on tight lining is bad for euro nymphing. 46:00 - FlyCastAway.com and AlphonseFishingCo.com are great companies to book your Seychelles trip with. 46:30 - We talk about the Humphead Parrotfish and what makes this creature special. 48:25 - Giant Travellies are one of the maddest and most aggressive fish in saltwater. 49:10 - Parrot fish fights really hard. Their beaks are like bolt cutters. 50:30 - People usually come to Seychelles to target GTs but end up loving Triggerfish. 52:00 - Watch this Triggerfish attack a diver. 54:00 - We talk about Jeff Currier. Craig tells us how they used to fish together a lot when they became neighbors. 1:02:30 - Craig is in Los Angeles right now, working for Bob Marriot's Fly Shop. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/457

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/456 Presented By: FishHound Expeditions In this episode of Ask a Pro, we catch up with Adam Cuthriell from FishHound Expeditions, a company specializing in wilderness heli and float trips in Alaska. Adam takes us through the ins and outs of mousing for rainbows, one of the most exciting ways to fish for these amazing creatures. We dig into the techniques involved in presenting your mouse fly to make it appear like a real mouse as well as some invaluable tips on the importance of positioning yourself upstream of the fish and the benefits of using articulated mouse patterns to help with fish mortality. We also explore other fun ways to fish for rainbows including swinging streamers, as well as the rivers that the FishHound crew typically fishes in, such as the Kwethluk and Kuskokwim Rivers. Adam tells us the best fly lines for mousing, and we take note of some of the mouse patterns that they commonly use, such as the Rio Pip Squeak and Mr. Hankey. Join us as we dive deep into the world of mousing for rainbows with Adam from FishHound Expeditions. Show Notes with Adam Cuthriell 00:40 - We did the first round of Ask a Pro last year at WFS 346 with Adam. 01:20 - Adam tells us what FishHound is all about - heli and float trips throughout Alaska for rainbows, arctic grayling, dolly varden, salmon, and more! 02:40 - We talk about the rivers that they usually fish like the Kwethluk and Kuskokwim Rivers - beautiful rivers! 04:55 - We talk about how mousing for rainbows works and the best times to do them. 09:25 - Adam describes how to present your mouse fly to make it appear like a real mouse panicking and making its way out of the water. 10:55 - We talk about how to cast a big mouse fly. 12:30 - Tip: Position yourself upstream of where the fish is. Adam explains this technique. 13:45 - Adam describes what mousing looks like when you're fishing from a boat. 15:40 - Adam recommends the Outbound Short fly line by Rio. 17:05 - Swinging streamers with a 2-handed rod is also a fun way to fish for rainbows. 18:00 - We noted some mouse patterns that they commonly use like the Rio Pip Squeak and Mr. Hankey. Anything that's articulated is great because it helps with fish mortality. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/456

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/455 Presented By: Daiichi, Waters West, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Dalton - Country Financial Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Ready to explore the world of Catskills fly fishing? In today's episode, John Shaner takes us into the Catskills area and describes the flies, the people, and the history of these famous waters. We also dig into some of the famous hatches of the East, and we get a full scoop on the people, the places, and what makes this all unique and historic. Plus, we hear stories about the legendary Theodore Gordon. It can't get any better than this! Tune in now. Catskills Fly Fishing Show Notes with John Shaner 03:54 - John tells us how he first got into fly fishing. 04:39 - John shares insights on the reasons behind the prominence of Catskills in fly fishing, but he believes the Catskills is not the birthplace of fly fishing in the US, even though some may disagree. 08:01 - John has a connection with the Catskill Fly Fishing Center and Museum, and they recently reviewed the fly collection, gaining insight into the evolution of fly development in the Catskills. John Shaner on Theodore Gordon 08:57 - John discusses Theodore Gordon's role in introducing and popularizing dry flies in the US. 10:17 - Roy Steenrod, Herman Christian, and Rube Cross are some of the people who continued the Catskill dry fly fishing after Gordon died in 1915. 13:35 - While Theodore Gordon is primarily known for fishing in the Neversink, he also had fishing experiences in the Beaverkill and the Limestone Streams of Pennsylvania. 15:03 - In the late 1940s, John McDonald collected Gordon's notes and letters into a book called The Notes and Letters of Theodore Gordon. 16:18 - John is a big George Edward MacKenzie Skues fan. 18:39 - We learn the difference between the English chalk streams and the Catskills. 20:10 - We talk about some big names in Catskills fly fishing, like Ed Van Put and Joan Wulff. We also talk about the Darbees and Dette. Dette Flies is one of our sponsors on the show. 30:25 - John gives us an overview of the locations to explore in the Catskills and the best times to fish there. 38:52 - We learn more about the Catskill flies, especially the Hendrickson hatch. 42:51 - John walks us through his fly fishing setup. For his rod, John mostly fishes exclusively in 4 wt. He uses a 9ft. 4wt. Graphite rod, and he prefers long leaders. A short leader for him is anything less than 15 feet. 44:57 - We did an episode with John Hudgens and talked about their leaders. Check out here: The Anglers Academy with John Hudgens - Henry's Fork, Bolivia, Dry fly Fishing. 45:43 - John highlights the importance of hook strength, which he says many people might not think about. 54:38 - We delve into more details about the Hendrickson hatch. Two Indicators to Identify a Hendrickson Hatch Forsythia - The blooming of the shadbush is an indicator of the Hendrickson hatch. Elder leaf - Another sign of the Hendrickson hatch is when the elder bush's leaves reach the size of a squirrel's ear. 1:00:18 - John suggests getting early accommodations for people visiting the Catskills. 1:02:44 - Aside from Theodore Gordon's book, John also recommends Sparse Gray Hackle's Fishless Days, Angling Nights, Art Flick's Streamside Guide to Naturals and Imitations, Harry Darbee's Catskill Flytier: My Life, Times, and Techniques, and Fly Fishing the Beaverkill by Gary Lafontaine and Eric Pepper. 1:14:39 - We talked about John's brief guiding career. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/455

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/454 Presented By: Dette Flies, Stonefly Nets, Bearvault, Togens Fly Shop Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Today we have a special guest, Mark, who is not only a talented angler and a Navy veteran but also turns out to be my long-lost cousin. So we start off the conversation by discussing our family connection. We talk about how he volunteers for Project Healing Waters by helping veterans by tie flies and fishing with them. Mark shares with us his experience being on a Navy ship and then delves into his love for kayak fishing. We also talk about the Kayak Fishing Northwest events in Oregon and Idaho and a walkthrough on how we can sign up for them. Mark then talks about how they get prepared for the KFNW tournament and breaks down his top 5 flies for smallmouth bass. We wrap up the episode by talking about my dad, Doug Stewart, and what he admires most about him. Show Notes with Mark Middleton 03:55 - Mark's stepfather was my dad's cousin. We talk about our family connection. 11:07 - We talk about how he was introduced to Project Healing Waters. Now he helps veterans tie flies and fish with them. 12:30 - We had Beau Beasley on the podcast where we talked about the new book that he was working on which has 40 powerful stories from veterans with traumatic pasts. We got emotional on that episode, it was really touching. 15:30 - Mark talks about his experience being on a Navy ship. 18:55 - Mark talks about kayak fishing. He's got a Hobie kayak he uses when fishing in big lakes. 22:55 - We talk about Kayak Fishing Northwest events in Oregon and Idaho and how you can sign up for them. 29:15 - We talk about how using a sounder or finder helps in Stillwater fishing. 31:15 - Mark talks about how they get prepared for the KFNW tournament. 38:30 - Mark breaks down his top 5 flies for smallmouth bass: 1. Simi Seal Leech 2. Baitfish Brush 3. Popper 4. Wooly Bugger 5. Damsel or any bug imitation 39:28 - We talk about fishing the Umpqua and the Payette Rivers. 42:50 - They have a training event coming up at KFNW that will be held in Henry Hagg Lake. You can check their schedule and sign up for the event here. 48:18 - Mark feels younger when he joins these tournaments and he gets to spend time with his son Mark Jr. 54:55 - We talk about my dad, Doug Stewart. Mark calls him every once in a while to check on him. Mark tells us what he admires most about my dad. 1:02:35 - Mark and his wife are going to Alaska in July. He noted a video that shows the exact trip that they're taking. Watch below. 1:06:25 - We noted my dad's book, The Practical Fly Fisher: Lessons Learned from a Lifetime of Fly Fishing. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/454

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/453 Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/teton In this episode, Darren Huntsman will be sharing his expertise on some of the best top lakes in Idaho and beyond. Not only that, but he'll also be giving some game-changing tips for stillwater fishing that you won't want to miss. So if you're planning a trip to Idaho or just looking to up your fishing game, be sure to tune in and join us for this informative and fun-filled episode. Lakes in Idaho Show Notes with Darren Huntsman 2:47 - Darren tells us how he got into fly fishing. He grew up just outside of Shelley, Idaho. 3:48 - He shares how STLWTR Fishing Co. came about. 4:43 - I ask him about the stillwater opportunities in eastern Idaho. 5:16 - He mentions some lakes in Idaho that are good fisheries. 7:53 - He gives recommendations on planning a trip to Idaho. 9:03 - We talk about Hebgen Lake. 11:15 - His favorite thing about stillwater is that the fish are bigger. 12:01 - We dig into his stillwater fly fishing technique. 12:53 - One of the focuses of STLWTR Fishing Co. is to get more kids fishing. 13:22 - We talk about boats. He has an old 16ft Klamath which is his favorite boat to fish out of. 14:44 - Aside from Hebgen Lake, one of the easiest to get up to is Chesterfield Reservoir. 17:56 - He shares his setup and techniques in fishing the Chesterfield Reservoir. 22:30 - We talk about the recently held Southeast Idaho Fly Tying & Fly Fishing Expo. 24:38 - He tells what is it that makes Southeast Idaho unique. 25:36 - He talks about fishing in Alaska. He ran fishing trips from 1991 to 2015. 30:22 - We dig into his plans for STLWTR Fishing Co. 31:46 - We talk about why stillwater fishing has not gotten traction as much as the others like river fishing. 32:55 - I mention our Littoral Zone episode with Phil about approaching new lakes. 34:15 - He shares more about his experience during the Southeast Idaho Fly Tying & Fly Fishing Expo. 36:55 - He gives us a list of his top flies. 39:06 - I ask him about private lakes in their area and Sheridan Creek. He also mentions the Eagle Ridge Ranch. 41:22 - He tells more about the times of the year they fish in some of the lakes in Idaho. 41:53 - He highly recommends fishing in Henry's Lake. 42:47 - He mentions the species you can find in Hebgen and Henry's lakes. He also recommends other lakes and lodges in Idaho if anyone is planning to visit. 45:20 - Darren is a stonemason by trade. He did all the stonework for Angler's Lodge. 45:38 - We talk about Johnny Sack's Cabin. 46:39 - Their area is just a shooting distance almost from Yellowstone Park. 47:05 - He tells about the changes he has seen in Idaho through the years, particularly in the fly fishing scene. 50:06 - His go-to local fly shop is Jimmy's All Seasons Angler. He gives examples of the fishing stuff he usually gets from Jimmy's. 52:00 - He gives a list of stillwater fishing must-haves. 53:25 - He highly recommends Bill Schiess' book entitled "Fishing Henry's Lake". He also gives fishing tips that he got from the book and from Phil Rowley. 58:23 - I ask him about the type of music and the bands he loves listening to. 59:24 - I talk a bit about our next episode with Phil Rowley. He also shares a story of their experience in the Pyramid Lake. 1:03:52 - He shares his favorite place to dine in Idaho. 1:04:39 - He mentions some famous people in Idaho. He also mentions our episode with Bob Jacklyn. 1:05:57 - He tells a story about Craig Mathews. We had him in the podcast in episode 427. 1:07:13 - He used to camp with his family. His parents had a 16-foot Aristocrat lo-liner. 1:08:40 - We tackle a bit of the history of the fishery in Idaho. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/453

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/452 Presented By: Mavrk Fly Fishing, Trxstle, Angler's Coffee, BearVault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors James Thull from Montana State University talks about what they have going at MSU Library, home of the world's largest collection of books on trout and salmon. We talk about the rich history and culture of angling through MSU's extensive book collection and over 370 interviews with anglers from around the world. James also highlights some of the notable interviews, including the ones with Bud Lilly and AK Best, as well as his experience interviewing Lefty Kreh at his house and fishing with Jeremy Wade from River Monsters. We discover the challenges James faced while traveling to different countries to conduct interviews and MSU's mission to preserve the global history, culture, and legacy of angling. Show Notes with James Thull 03:30 - They have the world's largest collection of books on trout and salmon at MSU. This collection was started by Bruce Mordan and Bud Lilly. 04:29 - Bud told James a story of an old gentleman he took fishing who landed his last fish and then died a few weeks later. 06:45 - You can head over to wetflyswing.com/msu to check out their trout, salmon, and angler history collection. They have done around 370 interview videos with anglers from around 65 to 70 countries. 19:30 - Someone donated a book signed by Isaac Walton to MSU Library. 23:30 - They collaborated with the American Museum of Fly Fishing on a project to digitize old cassette tapes. 27:05 - James recommends checking out the interviews they've done with Bud Lilly. Also the interview with AK Best. He also mentioned some of the notable ones including Lefty Kreh. 32:05 - James interviewed Lefty Kreh at Lefty's house. Lefty showed him his museum of personal artifacts. James saw a picture of Lefty with Fidel Castro and Ernest Hemmingway standing together with rods in their hand. (Unfortunately, we couldn't find this picture on Google) 37:00 - James talks about the tips Bud shared with him: The fish don't know whether you're using a $900 rod or a $90 rod. For the most part, fish strike for 2 reasons - they're hungry or they're pissed. 44:00 - James talks about going to different countries in Africa and Asia to conduct interviews. We hear about the challenges he faced along the way. 59:40 - We had Henry Winkler on the podcast in episode 334. We noted his book, I've Never Met an Idiot on the River. 1:00:40 - James talks about fishing and hanging out with Jeremy Wade from River Monsters. 1:04:30 - Their mission at MSU is to preserve the global history and culture of angling. 1:05:00 - James talks about their upcoming to Belize this fall to teach people about using archives on angling and history. 1:06:30 - We had John Gierach on the podcast for the 2nd time at WFS 434. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/452

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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/451 Presented by: Angler's Coffee Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Simon Gawesworth is back on the podcast to drop some spey knowledge bombs all day long. We're going to discover which spey line and tip you need for trout and steelhead this year. We find out what Simon's schools look like and we get a rundown of what event you'll find Simon this year. We also dig into his new role at Far Bank. RIO Products, Skagit, and Scandi Show Notes with Simon Gawesworth 3:46 - Simon tells us what has been keeping him busy. He transitioned from Brand Manager in RIO to Education and Engagement Manager for Far Bank. 4:54 - He describes the trips and programs they conduct at Far Bank. 7:59 - He talks a bit about that time he'd been in Skeena Spey Lodge. 9:00 - He differentiates a fishing school from a clinic. 10:42 - He tells more about the Skeena Spey Lodge. 11:53 - We talk about their transition to online video education. 12:58 - Just last year, they released the second season of their education series. You can access their videos here. 15:40 - We dig into rods. For steelhead, he recommends a 7wt or an 8wt. 16:50 - He recommends what fly lines to use for a 12 or 13 ft 8wt rod. He mentions their 550gr and the 575gr Skagit lines and RIO Scandi. 19:50 - I ask about running lines. He says that the low-stretched shooting lines are the best for hooking and landing a fish. 27:57 - He encourages listeners to check their video on how to choose a sink tip. 28:55 - I ask him about the story behind the T tips. 30:26 - We dig into the RIO Skagit Mow Tips. 34:45 - We talk about trout spey. 38:03 - He compares the Skagit vs Scandi on casting. 42:41 - He tells about the biggest struggle that he has observed among people learning to cast. 45:33 - I ask him if he is interested in doing casting competitions. 47:29 - He shares his love for traveling. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/451

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/450 Presented By: BearVault, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Waters West Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Lesley Peterson, Conservation Director of Trout Unlimited Canada, talks about her involvement with the Calgary Women Fly Fishers Club and Trout Unlimited Canada, which recently celebrated its 50th anniversary. She discusses issues like urban and sediment runoff that pollute river systems and how TU Canada has a project to rescue fish in irrigation canals, having already rescued over a million fish. Lesley also talks about the Athabasca Rainbow Trout and the ways you can get involved in TU Canada's conservation efforts. This episode also mentions other notable conservationists and organizations who've done amazing work in stream restoration and conservation as a whole. Show Notes with Lesley Peterson 04:00 - Lesley is a part of the Calgary Women Fly Fishers Club. 04:50 - We talk about Trout Unlimited Canada. They just celebrated their 50 years anniversary. 12:50 - We talk about Urban and Sediment runoff that pollutes the river systems and ultimately, the fish. 15:20 - They have a project that rescues fish in the irrigation canals. They've rescued over a million fish now. 18:50 - We talk about the difference between the Athabasca Rainbow trout versus a regular Rainbow trout. 19:45 - You can donate or volunteer for their program. Lesley talks about the other ways to get involved.. 22:30 - Lesley is the Conservation Director at TU Canada. 31:28 - We talk about Phil Rowley being the former Marketing and Communications Director of TU Canada. Phil's got his own segment on our podcast called, The Littoral Zone. 33:15 - We talk about Cows & Fish, how this organization came to be, and its mission. 36:30 - She noted Jack Imhof who was the National Biologist/Director of Conservation in Canada for 10 years. He's done so much amazing work and taught many people about stream restoration. 42:00 - Lesley majored in Conservation Biology in Edmonton, Alberta where she got really interested in conservation. 42:45 - The Executive Director of TUC, Silvia D'Amelio is a Biologist too. She's been with TUC for 20 years. 46:00 - She noted Sporkful Podcast which she listens to a lot. Also Archored by April Volkey. We had April on the podcast way back in 2018 at WFS 30. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/450

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/449 Presented By: Angler's Coffee, Yellowstone Teton, Trxstle, Bearvault Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors Brian Niska is back on the show to take us into Skeena steelhead fishing. Brian paints the picture of what you can expect if you're putting out a trip together to the Skeena Spey Lodge. He describes why he fishes the shallow water close to the bank, plus he gives us tips on how to do it. Brian really got nerdy today, and we loved it! So grab your gear because we're going deep into the weeds today with Brian. Skeena Steelhead Show Notes with Brian Niska 01:00 - We're back at it, and we're giving away a trip to Brian's lodge. 03:20 - In episode 370, we talked about the Skeena River Spey Lodge with Brian Niska. Today, we catch up with Brian and get an update on what he's been up to since then. 05:16 - Brian talks about fishing opportunities at the Skeena Spey Lodge. 10:06 - Brian paints a picture of what to expect when planning a trip to the Skeena River Spey Lodge. They have 14 A-frame cabins and a cool lodge building that used to be a barn. 11:02 - Their culinary team is top-notch, so you can always expect delicious food. 14:48 - We talk about the Spey Fishing School and how it's different from just a typical guiding trip. 15:50 - If people are interested in fly tying, they can spend time on the tying bench set up right by the pool table. They have great fly tyers amongst their guides, like Michael Orlowski and Adrienne Comeau. 24:26 - Brian tells a story about the time he caught a 30-pound Chinook Salmon in the middle of August. We had George Cook on the show before and talked about Chinook. 31:30 - Brian enjoys skiing with his family in winter. He also discusses the possibility of heliskiing at the Skeena Spey Lodge. 35:26 - Brian dives deep into the techniques, gear, and fly presentations that they use for finding fish at the Skeena Spey Lodge. 46:48 - Brian and his team use Mow Tip from RIO. 50:56 - The Skeena Lodge has a fully-stocked fly shop on the premises, where they've got a great selection of all the gears they use for fishing. 58:44 - We touched on the history of the Skeena Lodge. 1:07:00 - Brian and his team love using the Kingfisher Shallow Water Extreme boat. 1:09:00 - Brian recommends taking a day or two in Vancouver before going to the lodge. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/449