Typology

We've got another great guest today. Darren Tyler is the Founder of Conduit Church of Franklin, TN. Conduit Church has been the vehicle of generosity to people in Asia, Africa and The Americas...drilling wells, building schools and clinics, and freeing slaves. He's an Enneagram savvy Five who not only uses the Enneagram in his organization building his team, but has integrated his knowledge into his personal life to strengthen his relationships with his friends and family. We share a rich conversation about how the Enneagram has helped shape his team as well as how it has opened his eyes to the importance of connecting to his feelings in order to better love and care for his wife and children. We also uncover the hidden fears of the Five and explore the importance of balancing the three centers of intelligence. There are a lot of great insights in this episode. So whether you are a five, you love a five, or you work with a five, take a listen and let us know your favorite takeaways.

With over 40 years in law enforcement, Mike Alexander, MA, C.I.S.M. is a principal partner at LION Strategy Group which focuses on leadership development, healthy work environments, officer wellness, ethics, and emotional intelligence. He also sits on the Board of the Enneagram Narrative Tradition and brings his knowledge to organizations and law enforcement agencies across the U.S. This conversation with Mike is chock-full of wisdom and incredible insight about somatic work, the vacillation between phobic and counterphobic, and what it means to truly discover our whole self and capitalize on the great gifts we each bring to the table. Not only do we discuss the importance of workforce behavioral interventions and the role self-awareness plays in building healthy relationships with employees or coworkers, but he also describes how the Enneagram saved his life and marriage.

We received such a great response from all of you after our last mailbag episode, that we're doing it again! Today, Anthony pulls a few more audience questions from the bag for me to answer. If you love what you're hearing from the mail bag, you can experience Q&A with me LIVE on our next Town Hall for Typology Institute members. Members get to ask their questions live and the answers end up facilitating great follow up conversations that we just can't do on this show. It's truly a great time! If you'd like to join the next Town Hall, just visit typologyinstitute.com/membership to sign up.

Whether you've known your type for years or just can't seem to nail it down, typing is not always easy. The Enneagram can be complicated and really uncovers the complexities of the human personality. Today's guest, actress, producer, and director Brooklyn Sudano joins me for a fun and revealing conversation about her struggle to identify her type. So, we spend the whole show trying to tease out her type. You'll hear the kind of conversation that can happen when someone is struggling to figure out their type and how phrasing specific questions can help in the typing process. Brooklyn Sudano is an American Actress, vocalist, producer and director, from Los Angeles, California. She can currently be seen in season 1 of the series Cruel Summer, Freeform's dramatic series chronicling the chilling story of a girl who vanishes and another who mysteriously takes over her life. Brooklyn starred opposite Clive Standen and Jennifer Beals in NBC's Taken, a series adaptation of the film franchise. She has also appeared in HBO's Ballers opposite Dwayne Johnson and Andy Garcia; Hulu's miniseries 11.22.63 opposite James Franco and Chris Cooper; and the Lifetime Original Movie, With This Ring opposite Regina Hall, Jill Scott, and Eve. Brooklyn made her television debut as Vanessa on the ABC sitcom, My Wife and Kids and has subsequently made numerous guest starring appearances on shows like CSI: NY, Without A Trace, Body of Proof, S#*! My Dad Says and 90210. Her film credits include 5 Star Day, Crew 2 Crew, Sinners & Saints, Alone in the Dark 2, Rain and Somebody Help Me. Possessing star qualities that are apparent both on and off-screen, Brooklyn is the daughter of the legendary Donna Summer and singer-song-writer, Bruce Sudano, and sister of Amanda Sudano Ramirez of the music duo Johnnyswim.

What does it look like when a young entrepreneur discovers his Enneagram type and commits to doing his work and encourages his team to do the same? Today's guest, co-founder of New Story Charity, Brett Hagler gives a clear picture of how powerful the Enneagram is as a tool for self-growth. In this episode you learn: How self-awareness positively impacts leadership What the difference is between a spiritual director and a therapist The gradation of wings and why you should bring them into balance And, you'll hear how establishing his own rules of life helps keep Brett focused on what matters most while still making a huge impact in the world. You can find more on Brett and New Story here.

This week, Former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam returns to the show. This time we talk about his new book, The Promise and the Peril of Faith in the Public Square, turning his attention inward to matters of the soul since his term ended, and what he's learning about himself as an Enneagram 3. Bill Haslam is the former two-term mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, and former two-term governor of Tennessee, reelected in 2014 with the largest victory margin of any gubernatorial election in Tennessee history. During his tenure, Tennessee became the fastest improving state in the country in K-12 education and the first state to provide free community college or technical school for all of its citizens, in addition to adding 475,000 net new jobs. Haslam serves on the boards of Teach for America and Young Life. In the fall of 2019, Haslam became a visiting professor of political science at Vanderbilt University. He and his wife of thirty-eight years, Crissy, have three children and nine grandchildren.

"Mental health is health. We all have it. We can ignore it. We can mistreat it. We can take care of it. No matter what though, we can't deny that it exists." This was Ryan Casey Waller's response when I asked about his new book, "Depression, Anxiety, and Other Things We Don't Want to Talk About." This opened the door to a great, shame-free discussion about mental health and overcoming the stigma that often goes along with it. Ryan Casey Waller is a psychotherapist, pastor, lawyer, and, according to his book, a co-sufferer. In this episode we explore the: Experience that triggered his own journey towards healing Importance of mental health and seeking help when it is needed How he's using the self-knowledge gained from the Enneagram to manage his own mental health. My hope is that this episode will highlight how complex each of us is, how our needs and desires differ, and why it's important to avail ourselves of the multitude of resources available for healing.

Today, I'm answering a few carryover questions from our monthly Typology Institute Membership Town Hall. Each month I host a live Town Hall for members where we go beyond Q&A because members get to ask their questions live and the answers end up facilitating great follow up conversations that we just can't do on this show. It's truly a great time! So, I pulled a few questions to share with you this week to give you a peek. If you'd like to join the next Town Hall, just visit typologyinstitute.com/membership to sign up. We'll send you the link.

This week's amazing guest, Emily Ley, is the Founder of Simplified, a brand of planners and organizational tools for busy women. She's been featured in Forbes, Family Circle, Better Homes and Gardens, Glamour, and Good Housekeeping. She is also a national bestselling author of many books, including her latest, Growing Boldly: Dare to Build a Life You Love. As an Enneagram Two, she's doing her work to make positive changes in her professional and personal life. We talk about her new journey in therapy, what it means to be a two and a leader in the corporate field, why she no longer keeps score at home, and even dig into the core struggle of the two...that need to be liked. So, whether you are a Two, work with a Two, or love a Two, this episode covers a lot of ground and will open your eyes to the way a Two views the world.

Enneagram Nines appear to be so uncomplicated, and yet they're actually very complicated. Enneagram Nines share a tendency to be other-referencing or more tuned in to what's going on in the outside than they are tuned into what's going on inside. They have a tendency to want to create harmony in their environment, and avoid conflict. They have a unique sensitivity to tension and conflict that they want to prevent or avoid altogether. So, I asked Beatrice Chestnut to join me to go deep into the inner workings of the Peacemakers. In today's episode we: Explore the nuances between each subtype Highlight the various ways Nines wrestle with or express their anger Delve into the transformational path for each subtype

How does a traumatic incident shape the narrative you tell about yourself? Our guest today, Amy Downs, shares her incredible transformation that occurred as a result of surviving the Oklahoma City bombing. In the years since the bombing, Amy became a mother, lost 200 pounds, competed in an Ironman Triathlon, obtained her MBA, and became CEO of the same credit union that was bombed. It's one of the most dramatic stories we've ever had on this show. Don't miss this rich conversation as we learn her story, hear how the Enneagram helps in her personal and professional relationships, and explore whether she's an Enneagram 3 or 9.

Today, Holly Hayes, award-winning author, founder and CEO of Sanctuary Project, and Enneagram 3 joins me to explore the Enneagram as it relates to healing and recovery, how understanding your stress and security points can help identify your type, and the work required to reconnect with your authentic self. It's a powerful reminder that we all need a safe place to take off our masks and get back in touch with who we are meant to be.

Enneagram Ones value principles and integrity and are driven by the need to be good. They are conscientious and ethical and self-controlled. But as with all types, when you dig into subtypes and instincts you'll see three different versions of the Improvers personality that look and behave differently. Today, Beatrice Chestnut and I dive into: The importance of being familiar with your passion and how to recognize when it's taken the wheel What each subtype looks like and why knowing yours is critical How the growth path differs for each subtype of type one Listen now on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player.

I know many of you are looking forward to today's show and I'm thrilled to share this rich conversation with Enneagram Nine, Seth Abram. Seth is a long-time friend, pastor, singer, songwriter, creator and founder of Integrated Enneagram, and co-host of the popular Enneagram podcast, Fathoms. Seth not only shares his wealth of knowledge about the work that is needed to become the fullest expression of our true selves but also provides insight into learning to recognize and embrace the role that anger plays in the transformational path for an Enneagram 9. In this episode we discuss the: Fear and passion of the Peacemaker Tension of the polarity of wings on type Recognizing and growing into right action Listen now on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player, then share your thoughts with us on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.

Today's guest, NBA Life Optimization Coach and former professional basketball player, David Nurse joins me to talk about the importance of self-awareness and the role it plays in leading others and optimizing your potential. David also shares how making small pivots to look at things from a slightly different perspective can open up your entire perspective and lead to life-giving changes. In this episode you'll learn: Where types go in health and in stress The importance of a positive mindset How self-awareness impacts leadership and personal performance

In general, Enneagram Sixes focus on scanning for threats and risks, being prepared in case the worst happens, and predicting and anticipating what might happen next so they can be ready to meet whatever challenge occurs. But, when you get into their subtypes...they can look and behave pretty differently. I dive into this in-depth today with Enneagram guru, Beatrice Chestnut. In this episode you'll learn: What a passion is and why it's so important to know yours What each subtype looks like and why knowing yours is critical How the growth path differs for each subtype Listen now on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player.

What are the benefits of using the Enneagram in the corporate space? The Enneagram helps grow self-awareness and self-knowledge among team members and executives in order to create a richer, more productive, more profitable environment that is also filled with joy, compassion and empathy. When applied properly, it really gets under the waterline of consciousness and illuminates why you do what you do and can help you understand how you show up in the workplace. In this special episode, business experts Scott Allender, Karen J. Hardwick, and Chris Carneal join me for a free-wheeling conversation about the benefits of applying the Enneagram in the workplace.

Everybody fights, so why not get better at it? But how? One of the great things about the Enneagram is it's a wonderful tool for improving communication between friends, family, spouses, and even coworkers. It fosters the self-awareness needed to be able to disagree better, love more, and maintain healthy relationships along the way. Best-known for their hit parodies on social media, husband-wife duo Kim and Penn Holderness share their tips for communicating, talk about the rules of engagement for arguments, and explore their strengths and weaknesses through the lens of the Enneagram.

Each of us digests or metabolizes grief in separate ways. It's important to understand how differently people grieve and allow others the space to grieve in the way that is appropriate to their architecture. Author, speaker, and executive pastor at Church of the City, Jonathan Pitts shares his journey through grieving the unexpected loss of his wife, learning to carve out space for joy, and finding beauty in the small things.

Relationships are extremely important to Enneagram Twos. They are the most interpersonal number on the Enneagram. They are other referencing -- focusing their attention outside of themselves. But when you mix the passion of the Two (pride) with their subtypes, Enneagram Twos not only present in very different ways but their transformational path also varies. Psychotherapist, coach, business consultant and Enneagram guru Beatrice Chestnut walks us through the heart of the Befriender and provides insights into the growth path for each subtype. So, if you're a Two, if you love a Two, or if you're in conflict with a Two, listen through the end of this episode with an open heart and take note of what all Twos share in common and where they differ.

The journey of self-understanding isn't easy. Each of us are deep, mysterious, and complex beings who don't fit into one specific box. Those complexities can sometimes make the process of uncovering your true self difficult. Today's guest thought he was an Enneagram Seven for a long time but when he realized he was actually a dominant Six with a heavy Seven wing things changed. Front man of the award-winning Chrisitan group, MercyMe, Bart Millard joins me for a great conversation about the complexities of personality and how fear plays into his daily life. In this episode, we discuss: what let Bart to conclude his core type is a Six the strong influence wings can have on your core type the difference between about counter phobic and phobic sixes Tune in to hear our conversation and learn more about the inner workings of an Enneagram Six.

We've got another great interview today. An entrepreneur, actor, musician, singer-songwriter, and music executive...hip-hop artist Lecrae joins me in a personal conversation about shame and grief. We get really honest about his life, where he came from, what influenced his Threeness, a real identity crisis that he hit at the height of his fame, and what role therapy has played in his healing and restoration.

What mud do you bring into your relationships? Though we're often unaware of them until we can no longer ignore them, each of us carries hidden beliefs adopted in childhood into every relationship. And until we bring that mud, those self-limiting beliefs, to the surface they're going to work against us as adults. This week, Toni and Carey Nieuwhof, join me to talk about the unconscious messages that impacted their relationship, identify the seven core issues that tend to take out marriages, and share what they learned while working through their "messy middle."

Enneagram Nines have an innate ability to foster peace with those around them. With their intuitive wisdom and great skill in listening to differences and understanding multiple perspectives, Nines seem to have a leg up on the rest of us when it comes to spirituality. Artist and multiple Dove award nominee, Audrey Assad beautifully gives us an honest look into the importance of spiritual community, embracing shadow work, and manifesting a non-anxious presence. Listen through to the end as Audrey also offers a few great tips for Nines.

How do you do the things within your control without falling under the illusion that you are in control? Control is a big theme in all of our lives...it just shows up in different ways. No matter your type, we all try to control others with the suite of behaviors that go with our type. In fact, we train people to respond to us and interact with us in a certain way based on our type. So, how does an Enneagram 3 respond when faced with something they can't do -- something that's out of their control? National bestselling author, speaker, founder/CEO of the Own It Academy, and host of SHE, a top-rated podcast for women, Jordan Lee Dooley opens up about one of her most challenging struggles, how she is responding to the complex emotions surrounding grief, and learning to let go of the things she can't control. We love it when our guests get vulnerable because it reminds us that we are not alone. And, you are not alone.

As we navigate the current climate it's easy to become disconnected. But as humans, we're actually wired for connection. We must look for opportunities to connect with each other. Connection is fuel for the soul. And who better to explain the beauty of connection, of togetherness, than Morgan Harper Nichols. For Enneagram Fives who may already isolate, and be comfortable there, Morgan's words illuminate the importance and the challenge of balancing that space and connection. Morgan Harper Nichols is an artist and poet whose work is inspired by real-life interactions and stories. Morgan spent the first couple of years of her professional life as a college admission counselor, and then, as a full-time touring singer-songwriter and musician. It was on the road that she cultivated her curiosity and passion for writing, art, and design and slowly began to share her work online.

I often get emails from our listeners asking how the Enneagram can help their marriage. And usually, the email is asking for advice on a specific type-combination. That can be difficult to answer because there are so many variants with the Enneagram. But, when you understand the Enneagram--and not just your own type--it can be an invaluable tool for communication and support in any relationship, in any type-combination. Today, we've got a young couple joining us to talk about how the Enneagram allows them to help each other do 'work' within their own type. Our special guests, Maddie and Paul Voge, owners of the sparkling water line, Aura Bora, share: What a relationship between a 7 and a 9 is like Where their types go in stress, and How the Enneagram helps them manage extreme stress Listen in for some great Enneagram insights then set a reminder to watch Shark Tank on Friday, January 22nd to find out whether they "got a deal."

I'm often asked how trauma affects your Enneagram type. The answer is: it's complicated. Trauma is the result of an extraordinarily stressful event that shatters your sense of security and safety and makes you feel isolated and helpless in the world. It can be a one-time event or ongoing, complex trauma. Your response to trauma largely determines the type toward which you gravitate as a little child as a way of coping in the world. In today's episode, Chris Cook opens up about his childhood trauma and how healing his broken spirit exposed his true self. We also dig into unconscious motivations, subtypes, and the inner critic. You don't want to miss this in-depth conversation. Christopher Cook believes people should be able to live successful, meaningful lives, far above the status quo of "just getting by." Put simply, he believes people should be able to win today. He exercises this belief as a leadership coach and business consultant to both Fortune 1000 and non-profit organizations. Additionally, he is the host of "Win Today with Christopher Cook," a weekly podcast available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart Radio, and most other outlets. Through his work at WINTODAY.tv and as a featured writer for SUCCESS Magazine, he serves as a guide to wellness-minded men and women who are eager to confidently design their roadmap to wholeness and show up each day fully-alive in their true identity.

We often think of Enneagram Eights as powerful, charismatic, and natural leaders. They make great mentors with an uncanny ability to inspire and uplift people. Our guest today is a wonderful example of a healthy Eight leader who understands how to balance the power of her personality with self-restraint and vulnerability while motivating others. Dr. Sasha Shillcutt shares what drives her as an Eight, how she's managed the past year of the pandemic, and why it's important for her to empower other women to live life "brave enough." In this episode, we hope you will discover: When and where to lean into the 7 wing or the 9 wing of an Enneagram Eight Enneagram Eight subtypes and how they show up differently in the world A few tips for mitigating the passion (lust) of the Eight ABOUT DR. SASHA SHILLCUTT Sasha K. Shillcutt, MD, MS, FASE is a renowned cardiac anesthesiologist, Tenured Professor and the Vice-Chair of Strategy and Innovation in the Department of Anesthesiology at the University of Nebraska Medical Center (UNMC). Sasha is also a wife, mother, well-published gender-equity researcher, and Founder of Brave Enough, where she leads over 12,000 female physicians. She teaches professional women resilience, self-care, and negotiation through events, retreats, and courses. Sasha speaks frequently to executives and companies on the topics of professional burnout, resilience and gender equity and has a featured TEDX Talk on Resilience: The Art of Failing Forward. Her writing has been published in both the New England Journal of Medicine and JAMA. Her book, Between Grit and Grace, and podcast, The Brave Enough Show, elevate women to lead authentic and empowered lives.

At their best, Enneagram Twos truly radiate the unconditional, altruistic love of God. They just sort of signal love out into the world in a way that no other type can. But they also have a hard time being able to stop meeting the needs of others which can empty their tanks and lead to resentment. This episode resonated so well with a lot of our Two listeners. So, take another listen as Lisa-Jo shares what has changed for her at mid-life, what led her to embrace the superpowers and the kryptonite of an Enneagram Two, and how she knows when it's time for her to refuel. Cheers to a New Year!

Decision making takes courage. But sometimes the commitment to find the best option consumes an enormous amount of mental energy and can leave any of us exhausted and stuck. However, when you learn to stop overthinking you can start spending time on things that bring more peace, love, and joy into your life. Today, we're revisiting my interview with Anne Bogel on getting decisive. Though we focus a lot on Enneagram Nines in this conversation, I think you'll find her advice applicable -- no matter what your type is! So, take another listen as Anne gets to the heart of decision-making as an Enneagram Nine, shares what perfectionism-driven overthinking looks like, and suggests a few disciplines that Nines can use to get out of analysis-paralysis. Wishing you all a very happy holiday!

What is right and what is wrong? What is good? What is not good? We all tend to believe we know, but each one of us would answer these questions differently. Enneagram Ones, in particular, tend to be pretty black and white when it comes to right and wrong. Typically, it's harder for Ones to see the gray. So, learning to see the fundamental perfection, or goodness, at the core of all things is an important area of growth for Ones. Today, author Jelani Memory and I explore the nuances of The Improver, the impact family of origin has on personality, and how he's learned to find good in the gray. Jelani Memory is a black man of faith, who originally founded Circle Media which is now Co-owned by Disney and launched an amazing publishing company called A Kids Book About. The mission of "A Kids Book About," is to help kids and their grownups have honest conversations by making books about challenging, empowering, and important topics told by diverse authors who know that topic first-hand. They cover a range of topics such as racism, white privilege, empathy, anxiety, and addiction. He's spent his career creating products for families, changing the way they engage online and with each other. He lives in Portland OR with his wife and six kids. He still hopes to become an artist when he grows up.

This week I continue the conversation with Leeann and Michelle. Blending humor, motherhood, and the Enneagram, Leeann and Michelle show how they approach self-awareness and personal growth with lightheartedness and compassion towards themselves and others. Tune in through the end of the show to hear the advice they each share for processing big emotions. With backgrounds in commercial acting, television news, and comedy – Leeann and Michelle are a firehouse combination. You recognize them from their viral hits like, "Look What Joanna Made Me Do," "If You're My Friend Then You'd Buy This," and "The Diet." The success of videos like those fuels their passion to create great comedy in many mediums; parodies, sketch humor and live shows. Leeann & Michelle have attracted 40 million views of their videos, and have received national attention from USA Today, The New York Times, TODAY and Southern Living. Leeann & Michelle routinely appear in local media, sell out their improv shows, and have even earned the adoration of the one and only, Joanna Gaines. Between shoots, you can find Leeann & Michelle sweating it out in Phoenix, AZ. Leeann is likely cleaning or organizing her home (again), while Michelle is avoiding laundry. You can watch more of Leeann and Michelle on YouTube. **If you love this episode and want to hear more about Fours and Eights, listen to Tori Kelly and Andre Murillo discuss the role the Enneagram plays in understanding their friends and family, respecting each other's strengths, and navigating their emotions.

What happens when two comedians who love the Enneagram get together to make YouTube videos? You get over 50 amusing Enneagram-related videos to entertain you. With backgrounds in commercial acting, television news and comedy, Leeann Dearing and Michelle Fortin are a firehouse duo who create great comedy in many mediums: parodies, sketch humor and live shows. You can catch their "Enneagram Funnies" here. These two join me in witty banter to discuss how the Enneagram has transformed their lives. You're going to love them.

Enneagram Sevens typically appear confident, optimistic, and sunny. They're experts at finding the silver lining in any given situation in an attempt to avoid psychological and emotional or even sometimes circumstantial discomfort or distress. But what people don't understand about Sevens is if you scratch the paint just a little bit you'll find a lot of anxiety and unattended sorrow, unattended grief that they've spent so long living into the expectations that others have of them to always be the person who brings the juice, or make the party fun. So how do Sevens learn to sift through their anxiety and grief so they come out stronger on the other side? Listen as my guest, two-time Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter and actress, Jamie Grace, walks us through her process and provides a few tips for quieting the noise. Jamie is a very self-aware Enneagram Seven who actively advocates for joy, wellness, and mental health through the lens of music, film, and faith. An entertainer at heart, she regularly creates fresh content, including new music and weekly videos and episodes of her podcast, the Jamie Grace Podcast.

The Enneagram is a wonderful instrument that helps us develop self-awareness and self-knowledge that allows us to move through the world more intelligently, with more love and compassion, but it doesn't define us. It helps us develop an internal witness who can stand back and observe when we need to make a different choice or action. So, when life throws you a curveball, as it did for our guest, Marcus Johns, the Enneagram allows us to shift our perspective and let go of what is not in our control. Marcus is an actor, musician, writer, and social content creator best known for his viral Vine videos, which continue to entertain people on YouTube. You can also find him here on Instagram.

I'm often asked what it's like for specific type-pairings to be in a relationship? I believe that any type can have a successful partnership as long as they are healthy in their type. That doesn't mean there won't be challenges along the way, but when you're self-aware and also understand how your partner sees the world, it allows for more grace and compassion towards each other. Today, Lee and Laura Camp join me in a discussion of how the Enneagram helped them get into a healthy space and allowed them to heal their relationship as an Enneagram 1 and Enneagram 8.

We know that Enneagram Ones have a strong inner critic, but they're not alone. Just how loud is that inner critic for an Enneagram Four? What does it sound like? Tune in this week as former Bachelor, Ben Higgins talks about his inner critic, the healing journey of getting over his "Self," and the role the Enneagram has played in finding true compassion and connection among all of his relationships.

Enneagram Eights are charismatic individuals who lead through strength, competence, stability, and control. When self-aware, they learn to balance their intensity with a strategic approach and bring community leaders together to execute big changes. Today's guest, one of our country's top voices on community partnerships, Joshua Dubois, joins me in a discussion about the Enneagram and how it has made his team more empathetic and more human with one another. In this episode we cover: Learning to trust his instincts How leading strategically opens the door for communication What Joshua learned through his experience in the White House CEO, author, and media commentator, Joshua DuBois is one of our country's top voices on community partnerships, issues impacting African Americans, and religion in the public square. Joshua led the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships under President Obama. In the White House he brought together community leaders from across the ideological spectrum to tackle some of the nation's biggest challenges. Joshua is now CEO of Gauge, a market research company, and also leads Values Partnerships (valuespartnerships.com), one of the country's top social impact agencies. He is a frequent media commentator on CNN and author of the bestselling book, "The President's Devotional: The Daily Readings that Inspired President Obama," a compilation of the devotional meditations he shared with the President and narratives of faith in public life.

One of my favorite quotes by M. Scott Peck is, "Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths." Once you accept that life is hard, and the sooner that you accept it, the better off you'll be. With all the craziness of 2020, it's important to remember that life is full of struggles and we all have to live with a certain amount of pain. If we let it, our negative thoughts can take over and take us out of the game before we even start. But, with a little self-awareness, we can learn to quiet our thoughts and manage the uncertainty and self-doubt that arises when times are difficult. My guest today, author, business coach, and Enneagram 7, Alli Worthington joins me for a great conversation about overcoming adversity and moving forward when things are tough. In this episode, we discuss: What it looks like to "Stand Strong." How to manage pain and crisis without numbing out, and Recognizing and managing your Inner Critic Alli Worthington is known for her straight-talking encouragement and practical tools that help women reach their dreams in business and life. She's a business coach and advisor who has worked with companies such as Intel, Disney, Microsoft, and Procter & Gamble. She is the co-founder of "Called Creatives," where she coaches writers and speakers. Author of The Year of Living Happy, Fierce Faith, and Breaking Busy, Alli is a well-known speaker and host of the popular podcast, The Alli Worthington Show. In her new book, Standing Strong: A Woman's Guide to Overcoming Adversity and Living with Confidence, Alli gives women a no-nonsense guide to recognizing and eliminating the things that hold them back, to tackling the obstacles of fear, self-doubt, and insecurity, and to stepping into the dreams that planted in their hearts. Each chapter closes with discussion questions and action steps to aid readers on their journeys to living with strength and confidence.

When trying to figure out your Enneagram type it's important to know all nine types. If you think you know your type and just read up on that type, you may actually do confirmation bias and just automatically assume, "That sounds like me." But when you know all 9 types, you can really dig into the underlying motivation of each type to see which one resonates strongest for you. So, when Ken Coleman joined me a few months ago to discuss finding your dream job and living as an Enneagram Eight, I kept thinking that something didn't quite fit. And knowing that Enneagram Threes and Eights often mistype themselves, I encouraged Ken to do some reading. Today, Ken's back to share what he learned. Listen in as we cover: Why 3s and 8s often get mistyped as each other Whether your personality is hard-wired or driven by the environment The importance of knowing your subtype

There's no question that we're living in a time where a lot of unprecedented decisions are being made all around us. In our current climate, it couldn't be more evident that we all approach decision-making in different ways — even our responses to decisions other people make vary. Last week, host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley and I talked about how your type makes decisions. This week we continue our conversation and cover how each Enneagram type responds when decisions are made for them that impact their life circumstances. Be sure to listen to part one and two, then download this quick reference that summarizes both episodes.

How do you make decisions? Does your initial response come from the head, heart, or gut? Our natural tendency is to think that everyone makes decisions the same way that we do. But the reality is that each Enneagram type takes information in through a different lens which impacts the decisions we make on a daily basis. This week we've got a special treat for you. Host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast and founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley takes over as host and interviews me on how each type makes decisions. In this episode you'll learn: The default question each type asks as they make decisions Whether your type approaches decisions from the head, heart, or gut What your type should consider before making a decision About Andy Stanley Andy Stanley is a pastor, communicator, and bestselling author. Andy founded Atlanta-based North Point Ministries in 1995. Today, NPM consists of seven churches in the Atlanta area and a network of more than 90 churches around the globe that collectively serve nearly 185,000 people weekly. A survey of U.S. pastors in Outreach Magazine identified Andy as one of the ten most influential living pastors in America. Your Move with Andy Stanley premiered on NBC after Saturday Night Live in 2012 and on CBS after The Late Late Show with James Corden in 2017, giving him an even wider audience. Currently, over seven million episodes are consumed each month through television and podcasts. Nothing is as personal as his passion for engaging with live audiences, which he has pursued for over two decades at leadership events around the world. In high demand, he speaks at various annual events before audiences of both church and organizational leaders. Andy and his wife, Sandra, have three grown children and live near Atlanta. For more information on Andy, visit https://andystanley.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This show is brought to you by Restoring the Soul and Thrive Market. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Email [email protected] for more information.

What is your relationship with money? Do you have a healthy one? Do you have a conscious one? Most of us don't receive a financial education or an emotional literacy education as we are growing up. But, given how much we think about money, understanding what it is for, and why it is uniquely important to you can help foster a better, more intentional relationship with money. Bari Tessler, Financial Therapist, podcast host, and author of The Art of Money joins me for a discussion on money healing and shares insights into how each type relates to money. In today's episode you'll discover: What a financial therapist is and why you need one What "money emotions" are and how they show up for your type How a body check-in relates to money healing Bari Tessler Linden, M.A., is a Financial Therapist, Mentor Coach, Mama-preneur, and the Founder of The Art of Money. She has guided thousands of people to new, empowered, and refreshingly honest relationships with money through her nurturing, body-centered approach. Her methodology weaves together personal, couple, and creative entrepreneurial money teachings into one complete tapestry. She is the founder of The Art of Money: a year-long money school, which integrates Money Healing, Money Practices and Money Maps. You can learn more about Bari on her website at https://baritessler.com or follow her on Instagram and Facebook at @baritessler. ======================================== Ready to connect to the world around you and live true to yourself? Support your journey with my new course, True You: A Deeper Exploration of the Enneagram. Join the waitlist at https://www.typologyinstitute.com.

We all view the world through a different lens and the motivations that drive the decisions we make also vary. The Enneagram is a valuable tool for helping us understand those motivations so we can become more patient parents, communicate better with our spouses, and extend compassion to our coworkers. Our underlying motivations even play a large role in how we behave when it comes to money. When you understand the why behind how you handle money the way that you do, you can begin to make better choices that lead to lasting change. And today, #1 New York Times bestselling author and money expert, Rachel Cruze, joins me to talk about the natural tendencies and basic challenges of each Enneagram type when it comes to finances. ABOUT RACHEL CRUZE Rachel Cruze helps people learn the proper ways to handle money and stay out of debt. She's authored three bestselling books, including Love Your Life, Not Theirs and Smart Money Smart Kids. The daughter of Dave Ramsey, she uses the knowledge and experiences from growing up in the Ramsey household to educate others. She's the host of The Rachel Cruze Show, which is available on Facebook and YouTube, and The Rachel Cruze Show podcast, which is available on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. You can follow Cruze on Twitter and Instagram at @RachelCruze and online at rachelcruze.com, youtube.com/rachelcruze, or facebook.com/rachelramseycruze

The ever-present passion (fear) that drives the Enneagram Six's way of acting, thinking, and feeling, is actually experienced as anxiety. Fear is what arises when you're in the presence of a clear and immediate source of danger. Anxiety, in contrast, is a vague, free-floating sense of apprehension that arises in response to an unknown or potential threat. For Sixes, anxiety plays a role in all aspects of their life. They are constantly planning "what-if" scenarios, have thought through the contingencies, and know exactly what to do in any given situation. But healthy, self-aware Sixes recognize their pattern of worst-case-scenario planning, learn to trust their own experiences, and believe that in the end everything will be alright. In this episode of Typology, author and host of "The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey" podcast and Enneagram Six, Jamie Ivey explains the thread of natural caution and apprehension she feels as it relates to her friendships, marriage, and parenting. And she reminds us that, when healthy, the Six's anxiety produces a lot of great stories! P.S. Listen to this episode then text "FRIEND" to 33777 for a free download from Jamie.

The more I know about life and people, the more I love Enneagram Sixes. Called Loyalists, Sixes are the most faithful and dependable people on the Enneagram. They keep a watchful eye over us. They safeguard our values. In my opinion, they're the glue that holds our world together. And, by the time this episode is over, you're going to understand why Enneagram Sixes have a reputation for being some of the funniest people on the planet. Today, Jill Phillips, Leslie Jordan, Francie Likis, and Katie Williams describe what it's like to be Enneagram Sixes. You're going to love and admire this group of women as they explain: How fear and anxiety manifest in The Loyalist What the difference is between counter-phobic and phobic Sixes How different forms of worst-case-scenario planning play out So, sit back, hit play, and listen to this remarkable group of women talk about how they see and experience the world. You'll enjoy every minute of it.

Another one of my favorite episodes is my interview from Season 1 with Jo Saxton. She's an author, speaker, podcast host, and leadership coach who has dedicated her career to growing leadership teams around the world and empowering women to find their purpose in their personal and professional lives. She's also a strong voice for Enneagram Eights. Healthy Eights are great friends, exceptional leaders and champions of those who cannot fight on their own behalf. They have the intelligence, courage and stamina to do what others say can't be done. And, as with most Enneagram Eights, Jo Saxton is full of Eight's life-giving energy. When healthy, Eights learn to open their hearts like a healthy Two. And on this replay, Jo shares how she peeled back the layers, let down her defenses and got in touch with their inner heart. Listen in as we discuss healing broken identities and using the Enneagram as a tool for breaking through the junk that we accumulate and that confuses us from seeing who we truly are. And at the end of the show, Jo Saxton shares some tips for Eights who are just beginning to do their work and how they can begin to grow beyond their broken identity, or their broken personality, into their best self. For more information on Jo, visit www.josaxton.com

As we continue to celebrate reaching over 11 Million downloads, I'd like to revisit my interview with Fr. Richard Rohr. I first encountered the Enneagram when I was a graduate student at a conservative seminary. While on a weekend retreat I came across a copy of Fr. Richard Rohr's book, Discovering The Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Journey. In that book Richard describes the traits and the underlying compulsions of each of the nine basic Enneagram types. Based on my life experience and what I'd learned in my training to become a counselor, Rohr's description of the types blew my mind. They were uncannily accurate. I felt sure I had stumbled on an amazing resource, not only for Christians but for all people. Little did I know, that 25 years later, Richard and I would be friends and the Enneagram would become the central focus of my work. In this episode, you will learn: How Richard discovered the Enneagram How to break the shackles of self-doubt with self-compassion What exactly is the true self vs. false self Why the Enneagram can help to identify the true-self How we can use the Enneagram on a daily basis as a framework, or blueprint, for spiritual formation Richard also offers words of encouragement for and caution for each Enneagram type. Richard is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and he is the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is the author of numerous books, including Everything Belongs, Adam's Return, The Naked Now, Breathing Under Water, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, and Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.

We want to thank all of our listeners for tuning in and sharing our episodes -- helping us reach our biggest milestone yet -- 11 million downloads! As we celebrate this month, we'll be revisiting a few of Ian's favorite episodes that show just how powerful the Enneagram is as a tool for personal transformation. In today's replay, we take a look at the adaptable, caring, and "go with the flow" nature of Enneagram Nines. To keep the peace, Nines can over-accommodate in an unconscious effort to avoid conflict and "fall asleep" to their own needs. Our guest, Lysa Terkeurst, #1 New York Times bestselling author and Enneagram Nine, explains why it's important for The Peacemaker not to confuse the desire for peace with the disease to please and to recognize the delight of being yourself. Lysa TerKeurst is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Uninvited and It's Not Supposed to be This Way as well as 21 other books. As president of Proverbs 31 Ministries, Lysa and her staff are passionate about teaching the Word of God in ways that get people excited to live the Bible out loud. With their First 5 app and Encouragement for Today devotions, millions of people are studying God's Word every day with Lysa and her team. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina. Lysa was recently awarded the Champions of Faith Author Award and has been published in multiple publications such as Fox News and CNN online. Additionally, she has appeared on the Today Show as one of the leading voices in the Christian community. Each year, Lysa is a featured keynote presenter at more than 40 events across North America, including the Women of Joy Conferences and the Catalyst Leadership Conference. She has a passion for equipping women to share their stories for God's glory through Proverbs 31 Ministries' annual She Speaks Conference and writer training program, COMPEL: Words That Move People. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina.