Typology

We know that Enneagram Ones have a strong inner critic, but they're not alone. Just how loud is that inner critic for an Enneagram Four? What does it sound like? Tune in this week as former Bachelor, Ben Higgins talks about his inner critic, the healing journey of getting over his "Self," and the role the Enneagram has played in finding true compassion and connection among all of his relationships.

Enneagram Eights are charismatic individuals who lead through strength, competence, stability, and control. When self-aware, they learn to balance their intensity with a strategic approach and bring community leaders together to execute big changes. Today's guest, one of our country's top voices on community partnerships, Joshua Dubois, joins me in a discussion about the Enneagram and how it has made his team more empathetic and more human with one another. In this episode we cover: Learning to trust his instincts How leading strategically opens the door for communication What Joshua learned through his experience in the White House CEO, author, and media commentator, Joshua DuBois is one of our country's top voices on community partnerships, issues impacting African Americans, and religion in the public square. Joshua led the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships under President Obama. In the White House he brought together community leaders from across the ideological spectrum to tackle some of the nation's biggest challenges. Joshua is now CEO of Gauge, a market research company, and also leads Values Partnerships (valuespartnerships.com), one of the country's top social impact agencies. He is a frequent media commentator on CNN and author of the bestselling book, "The President's Devotional: The Daily Readings that Inspired President Obama," a compilation of the devotional meditations he shared with the President and narratives of faith in public life.

One of my favorite quotes by M. Scott Peck is, "Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths." Once you accept that life is hard, and the sooner that you accept it, the better off you'll be. With all the craziness of 2020, it's important to remember that life is full of struggles and we all have to live with a certain amount of pain. If we let it, our negative thoughts can take over and take us out of the game before we even start. But, with a little self-awareness, we can learn to quiet our thoughts and manage the uncertainty and self-doubt that arises when times are difficult. My guest today, author, business coach, and Enneagram 7, Alli Worthington joins me for a great conversation about overcoming adversity and moving forward when things are tough. In this episode, we discuss: What it looks like to "Stand Strong." How to manage pain and crisis without numbing out, and Recognizing and managing your Inner Critic Alli Worthington is known for her straight-talking encouragement and practical tools that help women reach their dreams in business and life. She's a business coach and advisor who has worked with companies such as Intel, Disney, Microsoft, and Procter & Gamble. She is the co-founder of "Called Creatives," where she coaches writers and speakers. Author of The Year of Living Happy, Fierce Faith, and Breaking Busy, Alli is a well-known speaker and host of the popular podcast, The Alli Worthington Show. In her new book, Standing Strong: A Woman's Guide to Overcoming Adversity and Living with Confidence, Alli gives women a no-nonsense guide to recognizing and eliminating the things that hold them back, to tackling the obstacles of fear, self-doubt, and insecurity, and to stepping into the dreams that planted in their hearts. Each chapter closes with discussion questions and action steps to aid readers on their journeys to living with strength and confidence.

When trying to figure out your Enneagram type it's important to know all nine types. If you think you know your type and just read up on that type, you may actually do confirmation bias and just automatically assume, "That sounds like me." But when you know all 9 types, you can really dig into the underlying motivation of each type to see which one resonates strongest for you. So, when Ken Coleman joined me a few months ago to discuss finding your dream job and living as an Enneagram Eight, I kept thinking that something didn't quite fit. And knowing that Enneagram Threes and Eights often mistype themselves, I encouraged Ken to do some reading. Today, Ken's back to share what he learned. Listen in as we cover: Why 3s and 8s often get mistyped as each other Whether your personality is hard-wired or driven by the environment The importance of knowing your subtype

There's no question that we're living in a time where a lot of unprecedented decisions are being made all around us. In our current climate, it couldn't be more evident that we all approach decision-making in different ways — even our responses to decisions other people make vary. Last week, host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley and I talked about how your type makes decisions. This week we continue our conversation and cover how each Enneagram type responds when decisions are made for them that impact their life circumstances. Be sure to listen to part one and two, then download this quick reference that summarizes both episodes.

How do you make decisions? Does your initial response come from the head, heart, or gut? Our natural tendency is to think that everyone makes decisions the same way that we do. But the reality is that each Enneagram type takes information in through a different lens which impacts the decisions we make on a daily basis. This week we've got a special treat for you. Host of The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast and founder of North Point Ministries, and author of Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets, Andy Stanley takes over as host and interviews me on how each type makes decisions. In this episode you'll learn: The default question each type asks as they make decisions Whether your type approaches decisions from the head, heart, or gut What your type should consider before making a decision About Andy Stanley Andy Stanley is a pastor, communicator, and bestselling author. Andy founded Atlanta-based North Point Ministries in 1995. Today, NPM consists of seven churches in the Atlanta area and a network of more than 90 churches around the globe that collectively serve nearly 185,000 people weekly. A survey of U.S. pastors in Outreach Magazine identified Andy as one of the ten most influential living pastors in America. Your Move with Andy Stanley premiered on NBC after Saturday Night Live in 2012 and on CBS after The Late Late Show with James Corden in 2017, giving him an even wider audience. Currently, over seven million episodes are consumed each month through television and podcasts. Nothing is as personal as his passion for engaging with live audiences, which he has pursued for over two decades at leadership events around the world. In high demand, he speaks at various annual events before audiences of both church and organizational leaders. Andy and his wife, Sandra, have three grown children and live near Atlanta. For more information on Andy, visit https://andystanley.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This show is brought to you by Restoring the Soul and Thrive Market. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Email [email protected] for more information.

What is your relationship with money? Do you have a healthy one? Do you have a conscious one? Most of us don't receive a financial education or an emotional literacy education as we are growing up. But, given how much we think about money, understanding what it is for, and why it is uniquely important to you can help foster a better, more intentional relationship with money. Bari Tessler, Financial Therapist, podcast host, and author of The Art of Money joins me for a discussion on money healing and shares insights into how each type relates to money. In today's episode you'll discover: What a financial therapist is and why you need one What "money emotions" are and how they show up for your type How a body check-in relates to money healing Bari Tessler Linden, M.A., is a Financial Therapist, Mentor Coach, Mama-preneur, and the Founder of The Art of Money. She has guided thousands of people to new, empowered, and refreshingly honest relationships with money through her nurturing, body-centered approach. Her methodology weaves together personal, couple, and creative entrepreneurial money teachings into one complete tapestry. She is the founder of The Art of Money: a year-long money school, which integrates Money Healing, Money Practices and Money Maps. You can learn more about Bari on her website at https://baritessler.com or follow her on Instagram and Facebook at @baritessler. ======================================== Ready to connect to the world around you and live true to yourself? Support your journey with my new course, True You: A Deeper Exploration of the Enneagram. Join the waitlist at https://www.typologyinstitute.com.

We all view the world through a different lens and the motivations that drive the decisions we make also vary. The Enneagram is a valuable tool for helping us understand those motivations so we can become more patient parents, communicate better with our spouses, and extend compassion to our coworkers. Our underlying motivations even play a large role in how we behave when it comes to money. When you understand the why behind how you handle money the way that you do, you can begin to make better choices that lead to lasting change. And today, #1 New York Times bestselling author and money expert, Rachel Cruze, joins me to talk about the natural tendencies and basic challenges of each Enneagram type when it comes to finances. ABOUT RACHEL CRUZE Rachel Cruze helps people learn the proper ways to handle money and stay out of debt. She's authored three bestselling books, including Love Your Life, Not Theirs and Smart Money Smart Kids. The daughter of Dave Ramsey, she uses the knowledge and experiences from growing up in the Ramsey household to educate others. She's the host of The Rachel Cruze Show, which is available on Facebook and YouTube, and The Rachel Cruze Show podcast, which is available on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. You can follow Cruze on Twitter and Instagram at @RachelCruze and online at rachelcruze.com, youtube.com/rachelcruze, or facebook.com/rachelramseycruze

The ever-present passion (fear) that drives the Enneagram Six's way of acting, thinking, and feeling, is actually experienced as anxiety. Fear is what arises when you're in the presence of a clear and immediate source of danger. Anxiety, in contrast, is a vague, free-floating sense of apprehension that arises in response to an unknown or potential threat. For Sixes, anxiety plays a role in all aspects of their life. They are constantly planning "what-if" scenarios, have thought through the contingencies, and know exactly what to do in any given situation. But healthy, self-aware Sixes recognize their pattern of worst-case-scenario planning, learn to trust their own experiences, and believe that in the end everything will be alright. In this episode of Typology, author and host of "The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey" podcast and Enneagram Six, Jamie Ivey explains the thread of natural caution and apprehension she feels as it relates to her friendships, marriage, and parenting. And she reminds us that, when healthy, the Six's anxiety produces a lot of great stories! P.S. Listen to this episode then text "FRIEND" to 33777 for a free download from Jamie.

The more I know about life and people, the more I love Enneagram Sixes. Called Loyalists, Sixes are the most faithful and dependable people on the Enneagram. They keep a watchful eye over us. They safeguard our values. In my opinion, they're the glue that holds our world together. And, by the time this episode is over, you're going to understand why Enneagram Sixes have a reputation for being some of the funniest people on the planet. Today, Jill Phillips, Leslie Jordan, Francie Likis, and Katie Williams describe what it's like to be Enneagram Sixes. You're going to love and admire this group of women as they explain: How fear and anxiety manifest in The Loyalist What the difference is between counter-phobic and phobic Sixes How different forms of worst-case-scenario planning play out So, sit back, hit play, and listen to this remarkable group of women talk about how they see and experience the world. You'll enjoy every minute of it.

Another one of my favorite episodes is my interview from Season 1 with Jo Saxton. She's an author, speaker, podcast host, and leadership coach who has dedicated her career to growing leadership teams around the world and empowering women to find their purpose in their personal and professional lives. She's also a strong voice for Enneagram Eights. Healthy Eights are great friends, exceptional leaders and champions of those who cannot fight on their own behalf. They have the intelligence, courage and stamina to do what others say can't be done. And, as with most Enneagram Eights, Jo Saxton is full of Eight's life-giving energy. When healthy, Eights learn to open their hearts like a healthy Two. And on this replay, Jo shares how she peeled back the layers, let down her defenses and got in touch with their inner heart. Listen in as we discuss healing broken identities and using the Enneagram as a tool for breaking through the junk that we accumulate and that confuses us from seeing who we truly are. And at the end of the show, Jo Saxton shares some tips for Eights who are just beginning to do their work and how they can begin to grow beyond their broken identity, or their broken personality, into their best self. For more information on Jo, visit www.josaxton.com

As we continue to celebrate reaching over 11 Million downloads, I'd like to revisit my interview with Fr. Richard Rohr. I first encountered the Enneagram when I was a graduate student at a conservative seminary. While on a weekend retreat I came across a copy of Fr. Richard Rohr's book, Discovering The Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Journey. In that book Richard describes the traits and the underlying compulsions of each of the nine basic Enneagram types. Based on my life experience and what I'd learned in my training to become a counselor, Rohr's description of the types blew my mind. They were uncannily accurate. I felt sure I had stumbled on an amazing resource, not only for Christians but for all people. Little did I know, that 25 years later, Richard and I would be friends and the Enneagram would become the central focus of my work. In this episode, you will learn: How Richard discovered the Enneagram How to break the shackles of self-doubt with self-compassion What exactly is the true self vs. false self Why the Enneagram can help to identify the true-self How we can use the Enneagram on a daily basis as a framework, or blueprint, for spiritual formation Richard also offers words of encouragement for and caution for each Enneagram type. Richard is a Franciscan priest of the New Mexico Province and he is the founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC) in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is the author of numerous books, including Everything Belongs, Adam's Return, The Naked Now, Breathing Under Water, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond, and Eager to Love: The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.

We want to thank all of our listeners for tuning in and sharing our episodes -- helping us reach our biggest milestone yet -- 11 million downloads! As we celebrate this month, we'll be revisiting a few of Ian's favorite episodes that show just how powerful the Enneagram is as a tool for personal transformation. In today's replay, we take a look at the adaptable, caring, and "go with the flow" nature of Enneagram Nines. To keep the peace, Nines can over-accommodate in an unconscious effort to avoid conflict and "fall asleep" to their own needs. Our guest, Lysa Terkeurst, #1 New York Times bestselling author and Enneagram Nine, explains why it's important for The Peacemaker not to confuse the desire for peace with the disease to please and to recognize the delight of being yourself. Lysa TerKeurst is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Uninvited and It's Not Supposed to be This Way as well as 21 other books. As president of Proverbs 31 Ministries, Lysa and her staff are passionate about teaching the Word of God in ways that get people excited to live the Bible out loud. With their First 5 app and Encouragement for Today devotions, millions of people are studying God's Word every day with Lysa and her team. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina. Lysa was recently awarded the Champions of Faith Author Award and has been published in multiple publications such as Fox News and CNN online. Additionally, she has appeared on the Today Show as one of the leading voices in the Christian community. Each year, Lysa is a featured keynote presenter at more than 40 events across North America, including the Women of Joy Conferences and the Catalyst Leadership Conference. She has a passion for equipping women to share their stories for God's glory through Proverbs 31 Ministries' annual She Speaks Conference and writer training program, COMPEL: Words That Move People. Lysa writes from her sticky farm table and lives with her family in North Carolina.

Driven by the desire to appear successful and distinguish themselves through their achievements, image-focused Enneagram Threes often appear confident, ambitious, and goal-oriented. At their best, they are self-accepting, authentic role models who inspire others. Today, author and leadership coach, Jenni Catron explains the pivotal role the Enneagram has had played for her personally and professionally. She discusses the importance of identity work for Enneagram Threes, recognizing when the shadow-side is showing up more, and how being too risk-avoidant can hinder growth and development. Jenni Catron is a leadership coach, author and speaker. Her passion is to cultivate healthy leaders to lead thriving organizations. She speaks at conferences and events nationwide, seeking to help leaders develop the clarity and confidence to lead well. As Founder and CEO of The 4Sight Group, she consults organizations on leadership, team culture and organizational health. With over 20 years of experience in corporate and non-profit organizations, Jenni has a passion for helping leaders "put feet to their vision." Jenni is the author of several books including Clout: Discover and Unleash Your God-Given Influence and The 4 Dimensions of Extraordinary Leadership . She loves a fabulous cup of tea, great books, learning the game of tennis and hiking with her husband. Jenni can be found on social media at @jennicatron and at https://get4sight.com You can also download her free PDF to help you define compelling values for your team.

Known for their playful, high-spirited, and spontaneous personalities, Enneagram Sevens infuse optimism and adventure in their daily interactions. But their fear of boredom can lead to impulsive decision making and difficulty committing to plans in advance. So, what happens when an Enneagram Seven focuses on doing their work and allows the knowledge to penetrate and break the patterns that typically drive an Enthusiast? Our guest, founder of TOMS and Madefor, Blake Mycoskie shares how the adoption of specific positive practices has helped him to really thrive and flourish as his best, most authentic self. Blake Mycoskie is a serial entrepreneur, philanthropist, and best-selling author most known for founding TOMS Shoes. He's also the person behind the idea of One for One®, a business model that helps a person in need with every product purchased. As a New York Times best-selling author of the book, Start Something That Matters, Blake offered his own story of inspiration and the power of incorporating giving in business. He's achieved numerous accolades for his unique approach to business including the Secretary of State's 2009 Award of Corporate Excellence, the 2015 Next Generation Award from Harvard's School of Public Health, the 2016 Cannes Lion Heart Award, and the 2018 amfAR Award of Courage. Blake also recently expanded his philanthropic efforts to include the funding of the Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research at Johns Hopkins, making it the first such research center in the US and the largest of its kind in the world. His current project, Madefor is a ten-month program that applies the principles of modern neuroscience, psychology and physiology to make your brain and body better. It leads you to adopt habits that work together to shift your mindset and behaviors. And, just for our Typology listeners, you'll receive 20% off with the discount code MFTYPOLOGY. For more information, visit GetMadeFor.com.

Enneagram Eights are real forces of nature. They are incredibly hardworking with a great deal of energy, and their self-confidence and take-charge personality make it easy for them to make difficult decisions. So, when it comes to finding the job you love, Enneagram Eight, Ken Coleman couldn't be a better guide. Today on Typology, Ken not only outlines the questions any Enneagram type needs to answer in order to find their dream job, but he also covers what he likes about being an Enneagram Eight and how it's helped him in his personal and professional life. Ken Coleman is the #1 national bestselling author of The Proximity Principle: The Proven Strategy That Will Lead to the Career You Love. At Ramsey Solutions, he hosts The Ken Coleman Show, a nationally syndicated radio show — part of the Ramsey Network — that airs on 51 stations across the U.S every weekday. Ken is a trusted voice and expert who's been featured in Forbes and appeared on Fox Business Network, Yahoo! Finance, and the Rachael Ray Show.

As a map of our interior world, the Enneagram is meant to bring about or enable spiritual transformation. But what does it look like when we are far enough down our path to see a difference? Our guest, actor/musician and Enneagram three Josh Radnor illustrates that vision today. Josh talks to Ian about growing in his compassion for himself and others, transforming from an unevolved three to an evolved three, recognizing the tension that plays out as a three with a four wing, and what spirituality looks like for him right now. JOSH RADNOR, most famous for his role on the long-running hit sitcom HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, also has an impressive body of dramatic work. Josh wrote, directed, and starred in Sundance feature hits LIBERAL ARTS and HAPPYTHANKYOUMOREPLEASE, and co-starred alongside Katheryn Hahn in Jill Soloway's AFTERNOON DELIGHT, which also premiered at Sundance. Josh has also starred in numerous plays on Broadway. On television, he starred for two seasons on PBS's MERCY STREET and on NBC's one-hour drama RISE. He is in a band with musician Ben Lee, called Radnor & Lee, and they just released their second album GOLDEN STATE. You can also see him alongside Al Pacino as the Nazi hunter Lonny Flash in Amazon's HUNTERS.

We're kicking off season 4 with a great episode! Today, Enneagram Four pop star Tori Kelly and former professional basketball player André Murillo join me to talk about how the Enneagram has impacted their relationship. Right out of the gate the conversation goes deep into how the Enneagram fosters a better understanding of the needs of their friends and family, encourages them to respect each other's strengths, and helps them navigate the different ways they each approach emotions. Tori Kelly is an American singer, songwriter, actress, and record producer who first gained recognition after posting videos on YouTube as a teenager, and appeared as a semi-finalist on the ninth season of American Idol in 2010. Thereafter, she independently released her self-produced debut EP in 2012, Handmade Songs by Tori Kelly. Since making her debut with 2015's Unbreakable Smile, a widely acclaimed album that entered the Billboard 200 at No. 2, Tori has lit up the pop landscape with her breathtaking vocals and full-hearted songwriting. Over the past year, she's continued to captivate with her sophomore effort Hiding Place: a passion project whose R&B-tinged take on classic gospel won Best Gospel Album at the 2019 Grammy Awards. And though Hiding Place marks a stylistic departure from Kelly's work in the pop world, each song shows the steadfast commitment to uncompromising artistry that carries through her music. Her husband, André Murillo is a former German-American professional basketball player who was raised in Lake Forest, California. He started his basketball career at Hamburg Towers in the German Pro A Basketball League then played for the Sea View League MVP. He currently has a passion for writing and sharing his personal life experiences.

When I first heard an Improver wrote a book titled, The Lazy Genius Way, I had to get her on the show. How on earth does an Enneagram One, who typically can't stop working to perfect the world and relax, come to embrace laziness? In today's episode, author Kendra Adachi explains why it's so important to be a genius about the things that matter, but to be lazy about things that don't. She also talks about the impact the Enneagram has had on growing in self-awareness, helping her recognize and find compassion for her inner critic, and adopting simple practices to help break out of the trap of her personality.

What makes a great leader? We typically think of a strong leader as someone who knows where they are going and how to motivate others to get there. But how do you effectively lead your team if you don't have a clear vision of your future? On this edition of Typology, Michael Hyatt explains what a Vision Driven Leader is and why a strategic vision is the most essential ingredient in leadership, not just in business but in all aspects of our lives. Known for his New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling books advising leaders in the area of productivity and goal achievement, Michael is uniquely qualified with over 40 years of experience as an entrepreneur and executive to discuss the make-or-break factor in successful leadership: vision. In this podcast, you'll discover: What a vision script is and why it's so important How an irresistible, clear vision can rally your team How to avoid distractions and focus on opportunities that connect with your vision Listen to this great episode then make sure to grab your copy of The Vision Driven Leader: 10 Questions to Focus Your Efforts, Energize Your Team, and Scale Your Business.

This week I'm thrilled to welcome podcast goddess and Enneagram Five, Elizabeth Evans. Having previously wrestled with a scarcity mindset that kept her wrapped up in her mind, she shares her powerful story of how she flipped the script of her fear and stepped into a mindset that led her to become a successful, female business owner. An expert in storytelling, Elizabeth shares how she integrates the Enneagram into her business, opens up about how she manages her "go-to" fears, and explains how she taps into the superpowers that come with being an Enneagram Five. Elizabeth is a podcast producer, economics fanatic and founder of Elizabeth Evans Co. Her 360 boutique podcast studio helps creatives strategically build their show from conception to launch. Her uniquely created podcast methodology has helped world-renowned artists, best-selling authors, award-winning musicians, and impactful influencers to create transformative podcasts full of timeless, quality conversations that empower listeners into extraordinary action. For more information about Elizabeth Evans visit her website and don't forget to check out her recently launched Podcast Society.

How many teams do you belong to? Personally, I am part of numerous teams. Be it my marriage, my friendships, my church, my AA group, or my business, I use the Enneagram with each of my teams to reduce conflict, improve communication, and promote cooperation. It's an invaluable tool for building stronger teams. In this episode, guests Tim and Beckie Farrant join me to talk about how they apply the Enneagram in business, in leadership, and in marriage. Beckie is a wildly successful DIY blogger and top producer for DoTERRA Essential Oils. Tim has over 20 years in pastoral ministry and is the author of "She's Selling What?!" Together, they walk us through the ways they support each other and their teams using the Enneagram.

The Enneagram provides nine consistent, fairly predictable ways for us to understand and tell our narrative of how we operate in the world and make sense of our lives. It's a tool that helps us enter into a conversation with ourselves about the recurring themes and patterns of behaviors that are self-defeating or hurtful to others. One of the themes that operates as a thread in each of our lives is shame. Next to love, I believe shame is the most powerful force in the universe, but in the wrong direction. In today's profoundly moving, heart-changing episode, author and psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins me for a deep conversation about shame and how it plays out as a human experience for all nine types. In this episode we cover: The definition of shame… what it does as opposed to what it is Ways shame manifests in each Enneagram type How we can begin to heal shame through community About Curt Thompson, M.D. Curt Thompson, M.D., is a psychiatrist in private practice in Falls Church, Virginia, and founder of Being Known, which develops teaching programs, seminars, and resource materials to help people explore the connection between interpersonal neurobiology and Christian spirituality which lead to genuine change and transformation. Dr. Thompson is the author of Anatomy of the Soul and The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves. Thompson graduated from Wright State University School of Medicine and completed his psychiatric residency at Temple University Hospital. He is board certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology. He and his wife, Phyllis, are the parents of two children and reside in Arlington, Virginia. He serves as an elder at Washington Community Fellowship in Washington, D.C.

Today, psychologist, author, and spiritual director Chuck Degroat joins me for a killer episode about the nine faces of narcissism. And we're not talking about people with full-blown narcissistic personality disorder per se. We're talking about narcissism on a continuum and what it looks like when each Enneagram type is manifesting a narcissistic style or type. Each of us is somewhere on that narcissistic spectrum. In this episode you'll learn: What narcissism actually is How narcissism shows up in all nine types, and What the healing path is for all nines types to keep narcissism in check.

Earlier this season, Molly Fletcher and I talked about her struggle to relax and turn it off. At the end of our interview, I asked her to come back after she had done some work and really dug into the Enneagram. Now, seven months later, she joins us to share how time and reflection have truly helped her slow down and shift her focus to chasing fulfillment rather than achievement. What does that look like for an Enneagram Three? Tune in to find out. Molly Fletcher is a popular keynote speaker who shares the unconventional techniques that helped her thrive as one of the first female sports agents in the high stakes, big ego world of professional sports. As a highly sought-after motivational speaker, she delivers game-changing messages to top companies, trade associations, and teams worldwide. Molly spent two decades as one of the world's only female sports agents. She was hailed as the "female Jerry Maguire" by CNN as she recruited and represented hundreds of sport's biggest names, including Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz, PGA TOUR golfer Matt Kuchar, broadcaster Erin Andrews, and basketball championship coaches Tom Izzo and Doc Rivers. She currently serves as a National Trustee member for the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and on the board of directors for the Intercollegiate Tennis Association (ITA) and the national advisory board for the Positive Coaching Alliance (PCA).

What better way to wrap up our series on Enneagram and Parenting, than with a rich conversation with parenting experts, Amy and Jeffrey Olrick, Ph.D. Dr. Olrick is a clinical psychologist who has worked with children and families for over 20 years. Amy is an author and human rights advocate whose work and writing has been featured in the Guardian and USA Today. Together, they run GrowingConnected.com, offering scientifically grounded and faith-informed resources for parents. Today we discuss: How the Enneagram can help parents identify and live into their strengths What the 6 Needs of Every Child are and how they feather with the Enneagram Co-parenting to meet the needs of your children with balance Tune in for some great parenting insights on connecting with your children.

Author of Get Out of Your Own Way: A Skeptic's Guide to Growth and Fulfillment, Dave Hollis joins me to talk honestly about the lies human beings tell themselves and how those lies feather with the Enneagram. Together, we review the most common lies people tell themselves, offer tips for neutralizing those lies, and discuss the importance of rewriting our stories to become the best, truest version of our selves. Dave Hollis is one half of the dynamic, powerhouse duo that is Rachel and Dave Hollis. The former Disney distribution chief, responsible for the relaunch of the Star Wars franchise, the Avengers series, and mega-hits like Frozen and Beauty and the Beast, left his prestigious post at Disney to lead The Hollis Company alongside wife Rachel Hollis. Their work exists to afford people the opportunity to change their lives and comes in the form of live events, film and television projects, top-rated podcasts, product lines at retail, digital education and more. For a chance to win a copy of Dave Hollis' new book, subscribe to my email list here.

This week Dr. Russell Moore joins Ian Cron for a rich discussion on morality and authenticity. Dr. Moore is president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the moral and public policy agency of the nations' largest Protestant denomination. He is an ethicist, theologian, award-winning writer, and head of the moral and public policy agency of the SBC. The Wall Street Journal has called Moore "vigorous, cheerful and fiercely articulate." He's also the author of several books. In this episode we talk about: How the Enneagram helps him in his work What is his current existential angst Ways he reconciles his world when he feels misunderstood

The Enneagram is a great tool for integration for yourself, but I'd like to encourage you to think of it as a tool that can really impact family dynamics, including strengthening your relationships with your children. When families integrate the Enneagram into their daily lives, not only do parents begin to better understand and distinguish the needs of their children, but children can also learn to recognize their own needs as well as the needs of their siblings. Having this level of understanding creates so much room for empathy and grace for each other. One of the questions I hear most often as it relates to the Enneagram and families is, "How old should my child be before they start learning the Enneagram?" And though I'm not prepared to provide a specific age, I do think it's important to explore the Enneagram as a tool for young people. So, today, I'm excited to share with you my conversation with our youngest guest ever…Justice Skinner. Justice is the eldest son of our very own, Anthony Skinner, and happens to be an Enneagram Six. This interview is full of wisdom and clarity for Enneagram Sixes of all ages. I hope it also gives you a glimpse into the way the Enneagram can operate in a family-system. P.S. Looking for tips on parenting with the Enneagram? Subscribe to my YouTube channel to catch my next series on Enneagram and Parenting beginning April 27th.

Today on Typology, I'm thrilled to welcome author Brian McLaren. Brian is an author, speaker, activist and theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for "a new kind of Christianity" – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. Brian is a faculty member of The Living School, which is part of the Center for Action and Contemplation, and he co-leads the Common Good Messaging Team, which is part of Vote Common Good. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he has developed an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. His most recent projects include an illustrated children's book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey. And he's currently working on Faith After Doubt (Spring 2021) and Do I Stay Christian? (Spring '22 In today's episode, Brian discusses how the Enneagram has: helped him understand the ways that he sabotages himself Allowed him to have grace and appreciation for each of his children Given him permission to become a friend to himself You'll also hear how Fours can use their gifts to find their way out of the tunnel at the end of the light.

The Enneagram is complicated and nuanced, but human beings are infinitely more complex than the Enneagram. And today's episode proves just that. Our guest, ABC News correspondent, Paula Faris, exudes a lot of energy from a few different Enneagram types. Listen as Ian walks Paula through the Typing Interview Process to help her tease out the types she most strongly resonates with, then offers some "homework" for really unearthing her type on her own. Paula Faris is a senior national correspondent at ABC News and host of the popular podcast Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris, which gives an intimate look at how some of the world's most influential people lean on faith and spirituality in the best and worst of times. An Emmy Award-winning journalist, Paula previously was co-anchor of the Good Morning America weekend edition, as well as a co-host of The View.

This week we continue our conversation with author, speaker, and pastor Louie Giglio. Louie is the Pastor of Passion City Church and the original visionary of the Passion movement, which exists to call a generation to leverage their lives for the fame of Jesus. He and his wife Shelley lead the teams at Passion City Church, sixstepsrecords, Passion Publishing and the Passion Global Institute. Louie is the national-bestselling author of Not Forsaken, Goliath Must Fall, The Comeback, and several others. In Part Two, Pastor Louie gets vulnerable and shares his story of healing as an Enneagram Three. Today we cover: How to recognize when you're heading into dangerous territory for yourself What it's like when an Enneagram 3 hits their wall Tune in as we continue to reflect on the inner story of an Enneagram Three.

I'm thrilled to welcome Pastor Louie Giglio to the Typology Studio. Louie is the Pastor of Passion City Church and the original visionary of the Passion movement, which exists to call a generation to leverage their lives for the fame of Jesus. He and his wife Shelley lead the teams at Passion City Church, sixstepsrecords, Passion Publishing and the Passion Global Institute. Louie is also the national-bestselling author of Not Forsaken, Goliath Must Fall, The Comeback, and several others. Louie just recently learned his Enneagram type, so this week we address his questions and reflect on the inner workings of an Enneagram Three. In Part One, we touch on: How to determine your dominant wing Using the Enneagram as a "lane detection system" Balancing the task list with true self-reflection And don't miss next week as we take an even deeper dive into the world and the redemption of those who identify as an Enneagram Three.

What happens when an Enneagram 9 stops overthinking and starts making decisions? Enneagram Nines have an incredible ability to see all sides of any given circumstance, but that commitment to find the best option consumes an enormous amount of mental energy and can leave them exhausted and stuck. However, when Nines learn to stop overthinking they can start spending more time on things that matter and that bring more peace, love and joy into their lives. Today's guest, author Anne Bogel, gets to the heart of decision-making as an Enneagram Nine and shares what perfectionism-driven overthinking looks like and suggests a few disciplines that Nines can use to get out of analysis paralysis. Anne Bogel is the author of Reading People and I'd Rather Be Reading and creator of the blog Modern Mrs. Darcy and the podcasts What Should I Read Next? and Óne Great Book. She's been featured in O, the Oprah Magazine, Real Simple, Bustle, Refinery, The Washington Post and more. Bogel's popular book lists and reading guides have established her as a tastemaker among readers, authors, and publishers. Her latest book, Don't Overthink It offers practical strategies on replacing negative thoughts with positive thought patterns that will make an immediate and lasting difference in how you deal with questions both big and small.

We received such a great response from all of you after our first "Mailbag Thursday," that we're doing it again. Today, Anthony pulls a few more audience questions from the bag for Ian to answer. Topics covered include: Whether trauma in adulthood can lead to type repression What the countertype 4 really looks like Resources on how different types process grief Tune in to hear what Ian has to say about these topics plus a few more. And for a chance to have your questions answered on-air, leave us a comment on social OR submit your questions right here.

I'm thrilled to welcome today's Typology guest, PROPAGANDA. Prop is a Christian Hip Hop and spoken word artist/poet, political activist, husband, father, academic, emcee, and an Enneagram Three. He and his wife, University Professor Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty, also host a podcast together called The Red Couch Podcast where they cover everything from pop culture to important social issues – all with the unique perspective, insight and wit only they can bring. In this episode, we have a candid conversation about how the Enneagram has helped him identify his interior struggles and what "doing his work" looks like. You'll learn: What Prop loves about being a Three What triggered Prop to start "doing his work" Specific rituals Prop practices to keep him in the moment For more information on PROPAGANDA, visit https://prophiphop.com or follow him on social @prophiphop.

This week on Typology, I'm excited to welcome my friend, Jill Phillips. Jill is a singer, songwriter and therapist based in Nashville who has been immersed in the Enneagram for some time now. She has a lot of wisdom to share, especially as it relates to the nuances of being a Six. Today we'll touch on: Enneagram stances and how they impact the lens through which each type views the world Ways the Enneagram integrates with other things, such as therapy or recovery The Enneagram Six's defense mechanisms for managing fear and anxiety Tune in to this great episode.

We all walk around thinking toxic thoughts but just because we think something doesn't make it true. Our thoughts are charged with emotions and energy, but they are not our enemies. If you treat them as though there is some kind of demonic force inside your head, you're actually investing them with power they do not have. They are not in charge of us. We are in charge of our thoughts and we have the ability to change our own narrative. In Part Two of my interview with Jennie Allen, we examine the toxic thoughts of an Enneagram Seven and how important it is for all of us to not give our thoughts too much power.

This week on Typology, I'm excited to welcome author, Jennie Allen. Jennie is the founder and visionary behind IF:Gathering, an organization that equips women with gospel-centered resources, events, and community so they may learn more about who God is and disciple others. A sought-after speaker, Allen has taught at Women of Faith, Catalyst, and Q conferences. She is the author of several books, including Restless, Anything, and Nothing to Prove, and her latest book, Get Out of Your Head: Stopping the Spiral of Toxic Thoughts, just released on January 28th. In part 1 of this 2-part episode, Jennie and I talk about how understanding her own strengths and weaknesses as an Enneagram Seven has played a pivotal role in learning to trust others in leading her organization while allowing her to lean into her own gifts to find happiness and success in both her professional and personal life.

Each Enneagram Type is beautiful and in its healthy expression is truly fantastic. When Threes are healthy, they no longer find it important to credentialize their achievements, they become more community-minded and interested in helping others succeed. In Part Two of my conversation with former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam, we continue our discussion on the dangers Enneagram Threes face when they over-identify with the role they play in their job and allow perception to matter more than reality.

This week on Typology, I'm excited to welcome my friend and former Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam. Bill began his career in business joining his father, Jim Haslam, who was the founder of the petroleum company Pilot Corporation. He was the CEO of the E-commerce and Catalog Division for Saks Fifth Avenue from 1999 to 2001, Mayor of Knoxville, TN from 2003-2010, and is co-owner of the Tennessee Smokies Minor League Baseball Team. He also happens to be an Enneagram Three. In part one of this two-part episode, Bill and I talk about what it's like to live and lead as an Enneagram Three.

This week on Typology, I'm excited to welcome Lisa-Jo Baker, a former attorney and longtime Community Manager at (in)courage, podcast host, best-selling author of The Middle Matters, Never Unfriended and Surprised by Motherhood. She's also an Enneagram Two. At their best, Enneagram Twos truly radiate the unconditional, altruistic love of God. They just sort of signal love out into the world in a way that no other type can. But they also have a hard time being able to stop meeting the needs of others which can empty their tanks and lead to resentment. Today, Lisa-Jo shares what has changed for her at mid-life, what led her to embrace the superpowers and the kryptonite of an Enneagram Two, and how she knows when it's time for her to refuel.

We love providing you with new content and great guests each week. But, as you might imagine, the interviews often spark a lot of questions from our listeners. In fact, we receive tons of questions every single day. So, today we're diving into 2020 with something we've been talking about for quite a while...we'll be reading and answering some of your questions on the air. We're super excited to finally roll out our first "Mailbag Thursday," and we hope you are too. Keep those questions rolling in and maybe we'll answer your question on the next Mailbag Thursday. Thanks for listening!

Happy New Year! This week on Typology, I'm thrilled to welcome my friend, Betsy Miller. Betsy is the Director of Finance for Storybrand and also serves as the chairman of the Board of Directors for RESCUE: Freedom International, an organization that is a leading force in the rescue and restoration of survivors of human trafficking. Betsy and I take a look into the mind of an Enneagram Six, or The Loyalist. Enneagram Sixes tend to doubt the commitment of others, have difficulty making decisions without outside input, and always consider the worst-case scenario. Tune in as we explore the Loyalists' basic fear and provide some great tips to help Sixes learn to accept anxiety and doubt on their journey toward health.

The Enneagram allows us to build and sustain healthy relationships by appreciating and understanding our own motivations and behaviors as well as those of our friends and family. In today's episode, the Cron family gathers over the holidays to discuss how the Enneagram has helped them grow closer and better understand each other. Listen as they share how their family finds balance and appreciation among each other.

This week we're taking a break to enjoy the holidays with our friends and families. So, we're replaying last year's episode where we give suggestions for the perfect Christmas gift for each Enneagram type. We wish you a fabulous couple of weeks and we'll kick off 2020 with some great new interviews. Happy Holidays!

This week I continue my insightful conversation with singer-songwriter, Amanda Cook. Amanda is a worship leader at Bethel Church and with Bethel Music, GMA Dove Award Winner for Inspirational Album of the Year, and winner of three Covenant Awards from GMA Canada, including Female Vocalist of the Year, Song of the Year, and Praise and Worship Song of the Year for You Make Me Brave. In this episode, Amanda and I explain: the gift and grip of grief the Fives' defense mechanism of isolation the importance of staying present in the moment This conversation brings so much light and clarity to the construction of the Enneagram Five's personality. You don't want to miss it.

This week on Typology, I welcome a very special Enneagram Five who has done her work and beautifully wraps her words around her experience as a Five. Our guest, Amanda Lindsey Cook is a singer-songwriter, worship leader at Bethel Church and with Bethel Music, GMA Dove Award Winner for Inspirational Album of the Year, and winner of three Covenant Awards from GMA Canada, including Female Vocalist of the Year, Song of the Year, and Praise and Worship Song of the Year for You Make Me Brave. In this episode, Amanda Cook: Shares how music helps her connect with her feelings Describes the important practice of embodiment Reveals the sacred rhythm of an Enneagram Five Our conversation was so rich, we made this a two-part episode. So, tune in next week as we continue our dive into the attic of Amanda's mind. And to add to this amazing episode, I'm super excited to announce that Anthony and I are taking Typology on the road. I'll be hosting the first-ever LIVE recording of Typology at the Balboa Theater in San Diego on March 21st. I'll share more details in the upcoming weeks but in the meantime, mark your calendars for the ticket pre-sale opening next Wednesday at 12:00 pm Central Time. Stay tuned on TypologyPodcast.com or on Instagram, Facebook or Twitter.

In Part two of my conversation with John Mark Comer—author, speaker, pastor, and Enneagram One—we continue our discussion about the Enneagram and why it's so important to eliminate hurry from our lives. When you think about it, when you feel listened to and attended to, you feel loved by a person. But when we rush from one thing to another, we are unable to focus our attention on those we love most and our relationships are negatively impacted. If instead, we learn to live in a different space than hurry, the love, peace, and serenity we're really after will follow.

What do you pay attention to? When each of us walks into a room, the focus of our attention is different. An Enneagram Two might look for who they can connect with, an Enneagram Four might focus on what's missing in the room, and an Enneagram One might notice what needs to be fixed. But who is that Two not connecting with? What is in the room that the Four is not appreciating? And what is right in the room that the One doesn't need to fix? Today on Typology, I begin my conversation with John Mark Comer—author, speaker, pastor, and an Enneagram One—about the importance of "paying attention to what is" and how the Enneagram has taught him to stop and ask the right questions in order to grow and mature throughout his own spiritual journey. And don't miss next week, when we continue our conversation in Part Two!