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One of the scariest yet most exciting things is letting go of your child as they become an adult and go to college. As a parent, you have done your job getting your child to this point; now, you will drop them off at college, trusting they will be safe and have a blast while getting an excellent education. That is how it is supposed to go, but sadly that isn’t always the case. Today we are headed to the southern united states to Mobile, Alabama, which struggles with New Orleans to claim the right to be the one Mardi Gras city. Debate is to which city helps the first mardi gras. It is a cute small, safe town. In Mobile, you will find the University of South Alabama. Now if you are a local or a student, it is simply South. The year is 1979, and 18-year-old Katherine Foster is excited to start college. Katherine has a beaming smile and friendly personality, but she also has the brains since she was the salutatorian of her class. What should be the best time of her life ends before she even really had a chance to get started.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Dear Katherine: The Murder of Katherine Foster." Music by @wetalkofdreams Listener Discretion @octoberpodVHS Sources: http://www.doc.alabama.gov/InmateHistoryhttps://www.foxnews.com/story/woman-arrested-at-homeless-shelter-for-1980-murder-of-alabama-studenthttps://www.andalusiastarnews.com/2008/11/25/28-years-later-arrest-made/https://thecinemaholic.com/katherine-foster-murder-where-is-jamie-kellam-letson-now/https://www.radiotimes.com/programme/b-t0pdxt/nightmare-next-door-season-6/?episode=b-rj1emrhttps://www.facebook.com/InvestigationDiscovery/posts/the-body-of-freshman-katherine-foster-is-discovered-in-a-wooded-area-near-the-un/10150974067484902/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3038426/http://www.mobilebaytimes.com/foster051710.htmlhttps://www.wlox.com/story/9399395/cold-case-arrest-unearths-painful-memories-in-pascagoula/https://www.thoughtco.com/woman-arrested-1980-murder-katherine-foster-3969309https://www.al.com/live/2010/05/jamie_letson_convicted_of_1980.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CONTENT WARNING This episode contains discussions of sexual assault.Bloomington-Normal is a metro area of about 130,000 people in north-central Illinois. Located just two hours southwest of Chicago, Blo-No, as it is affectionally called, is one of those cities in America that’s known for being, well, normal. It’s flat, there’s not much to see, and it's surrounded by cornfields. One local real estate agent describes Bloomington-Normal as the town that “has everything you need and nothing that you don’t.” It's a town where people feel safe. So, it was quite disconcerting when on the 4th of April in 2003, a twenty-five-year-old woman, who was sound asleep in her home in Bloomington-Normal, was suddenly and terrifyingly woken in the middle of the night by an intruder. This was the second rape in four months, and police noticed that the details of that case were terrifyingly similar. It was unusual for the town to have even one occurrence of stranger rape at all, let alone two. Something was horribly wrong. The police had the sickening suspicion that the town had its very first-ever serial rapist.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "The Secret Life Of Jeffrey Pelo"Thank you to EJ Hammond for requesting this episode.You can find her book, Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast hereResearch and writing by Lauretta Allen Listener Discretion by OctoberpodVHSProducer Music & Editing by Nico at We Talk of DreamsSources:https://caselaw.findlaw.com/il-court-of-appeals/1541002.htmlhttps://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/illinois-police-sergeant-jeffrey-pelo-doubled-serial-rapist/story?id=11497530https://www.wglt.org/show/wglts-sound-ideas/2018-01-10/bloomington-mom-shares-heroin-heartache-to-help-othershttps://www.newspapers.com/image/75556460/?terms=Jeffrey%20Pelo&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/75850779/?terms=Jeffrey%20Pelo&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/75540537/?terms=Jeffrey%20Pelo&match=1https://www.amazon.com/From-Protector-to-Predator/dp/B091JG4FGL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=23LHV8WP0NAGV&keywords=who+the+bleep+did+I+marry+Pelo&qid=1680189416&s=instant-video&sprefix=who+the+bleep+did+i+marry+pelo%2Cinstant- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There is a job for kids that doesn’t exist today: the old paperboy. Kids would wake before sunrise and hop on their shiny Schwinn bikes with a banana seat to deliver the newspapers to the neighborhood. 13-year-old David Reed was the local paper boy for the Pottsville Republican, and he always made sure to get papers to his neighbors in Schuylkill Haven so they could get the morning news with their coffee. David always wore his uniform, a t-shirt with the newspaper’s name and logo, when he delivered so people knew him and liked the kid. At this age, your bike is your transportation. You take great pride in it, and it gets you to where you want to be. One summer day, David left on his bicycle to go and meet up with friends. This was common; however, when he failed to come home, worry sets in as this was not like David. It was also a concern because David had juvenile diabetes, and eating on time was crucial. It would take years to find out what happened to David Reed.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled 'The Bone Collector: The Death of David Reed.'Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHSAll Music is by our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.mcall.com/2009/02/27/man-sentenced-23-years-after-schuylkill-death-he-says-guilt-haunted-him-ever-since-fatal-blow-over-marijuana/https://www.mcall.com/2008/01/20/pursuing-break-in-boys-case/https://www.wnep.com/article/news/local/schuylkill-county/local-cold-case-makes-national-television-david-reed-joseph-geiger-files-bone-keeper-ae-network/523-09a8b600-9648-4c1a-bd61-7057b2d373bfhttp://berkspets.com/article.aspx?id=109811http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=103130https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna29413530http://www.mcall.com/news/all-coldcases-story-012008-story.htmlhttp://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/regional/s_584353.html#axzz3pbYOOztOhttp://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/08/21/police-arrest-suspect-in-185-murder-pennsylvania-boy-13-who-left-home-on-bike.htmlhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B8QRSNCF/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*****CONTENT WARNING*****Every now and then, police officers experience a case that shakes them to their core. In May of 1982, that’s exactly what happened. Two beat patrol officers in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, were first to respond to a frantic phone call reporting a dead body, one would quit the force within six months, and the other would ask for a desk job where he would remain for the rest of his career.Darlene Prioriello disappeared from a bus stop after spending an evening with her boyfriend. The next day, a local factory received a call telling them to check the field next to their building. For a week, the killer would harass the Prioriello family and taunt the police, threatening to kill again.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Try and Catch Me: The Murder of Darlene "Dolly" Prioriello"Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube channelHe also has a podcast called OctopberpodAM. Available everywhere.Nico at We Talk Of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.Sources:Videos by Deadbughttps://www.bitchute.com/video/pTi5W4Kw208g/https://wwwyoutube.com/watch?v=pxd8Kq5Ea64https://youtu.be/71PvJBD_XvEhttps://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/dobson-david-james.htmhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/rapists-teary-contrition-familys-cold-disdain-clash-at-hearing/article1074194/https://www.finda.grave.com/memorial/139247415/darlene-nicky-prioriellohttps://www.newspapers.com/image/728663333/https://www.newspapers.com/image/728663353/?terms=darlene%20prioriello&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/733300500/?terms=Darlene%20Prioriello&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/510935558/?terms=Darlene%20Prioriello&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/733307137/?terms=Darlene%20Prioriello&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s case takes us to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where it is May 31, 1991. The area is well-known to sunbathers and tourists alike. It is home to the Swimmers Hall of Fame and several high-end hotels and restaurants. Millions of people set off to soak up the sand and sunshine each year, and Lorraine Anne Barrett was no different. Lori, as she was known by her friends, was a 32-year Pennesylannia native who set off to enjoy some R and R. She had rented a room at the Days Inn Lauderdale and was about to enjoy her time. The following day, the hotel cleaning staff arrived to clean her room around noon but was shocked upon finding Lorriane dead and not from natural causes. A composite was made and shared with neighboring jurisdictions, but no leads were developed. The case grew cold. It would take some time to find the man responsible, but that was only the beginning of the story, with lots of twists and turns along the way.Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘Confession from the Grave: Jack Jones Jr.’Listener Discretion is by Edward October from @octoberpodVHSAll music is by Nico @wetalkofdreamsSources:Det on The First 48https://www.facebook.com/thefirst48/videos/the-first-48-det-curcio-is-mongo/10151639755668909/https://www.thv11.com/article/news/jack-jones/91-717020ea-7af3-4e82-9637-5f80e9033522https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/arkansascompletesfirstdoubleexecutionfirstlethalinjectionsince2000jackjonesmarcelwilliamsdeath-a7700436.htmlhttps://wreg.com/news/prosecutors-executed-arkansas-inmate-claims-1983-florida-murder-after-death/https://archive.ph/20201104090227/https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/crime/fl-ne-stewart-jones-murder-case-20190321-story.html#selection-1695.2-1725.116https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-op-col-grimm-wrongful-conviction-20190502-story.htmlhttps://media.arkansasonline.com/news/documents/2019/03/21/JACK_JONES_LETTER__TRANSCRIPT.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you to Donna for requesting this episode!*****Content Warning*****It has been theorized by the experts who study serial killers that a killer’s first victim often knows the offender or, at the very least, lives nearby. Sometimes they are neighbors or friends of friends, coworkers, or possibly people who attend their church. In 1992 on Claude Street in Seaford, Victoria, Australia, two women were unaware that they were about to be 'baby steps' for the person who would become known as the Frankston Serial Killer. They were his trial run, the middle rung on his escalating ladder of carnage. Within months, Paul Denyer would attack and four women, brutally murdering three.Paul Denyer is seeking parole in 2023, and many don't believe he should ever be released. Please listen to Jen and Cam discuss "Without Remorse: The Frankston Serial Killer" and see for yourself. If you feel Denyer needs to stay in prison, please go to Change.org and sign the petition. Today's episode was sponsored By HelloFresh.Go to HelloFresh.com/otcp50 and use code otcp50 for 50% off, plus your first box ships free!See Cam and Jen at True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival on August 25-27, 2023, in Austin, Texas. Go to https://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/ and use code OTCP for discounted tickets!Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube channel He also has a podcast called OctopberpodAM. Available everywhere.Nico at We Talk Of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.Sources:The Frankston Murders: 25 Years On by Vikki Petraitishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MWDJ9YW/ref=x_gr_bb_kindle?caller=Goodreads&tag=x_gr_bb_kindle-20---Great read.http://media.heraldsun.com.au/multimedia/2013/april/denyerletters/index03.html#:~:text=%22I%20committed%20those%20disgusting%20crimes,that%20I%20was%20a%20male.%22https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/special-handwriting-analysis-provides-an-insight-into-the-mind-of-serial-killer-paul-denyer/news-story/01e16e61b1cf73d5d6f3fc9c548dc336https://www.newspapers.com/image/123020445/?terms=Paul%20Denyer&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/123020449/?terms=Paul%20Denyer&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It started with Jennifer, the third child of Marybeth and Joe, joining siblings Barbara and Joe Jr in December of 1971. Little Jennifer was not a healthy child and died from meningitis on January 3, 1972. This news hit Marybeth and Joe hard, especially Mary, who had just lost her father in October. Perhaps the stress ignited a slow-burning fire into a firestorm, or maybe it was always inside and had not yet appeared until now. Whatever the reason, there would be a trail of death with one person responsible for them all. Yet time and time again, the person was left to do it again and again. Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast episode, ' Hush Little Babies: Marybeth Tinning.’Pretty Litter sponsors this episode. PrettyLitter helps keep tabs on your cat’s health and keeps odors down. You and your cat will love Pretty Litter as much as we do! Go to Pretty Litter.com/otcp to save 20% on your first order. Listener discretion by the amazing @octoberpodVHS.The show’s music is from our editor and executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreamsSources: Baden, Michael M.; Hennessee, Judith Adler (1989). Unnatural Death: Confessions of a Medical Examiner (1st ed.). New York City: Random House. ISBN 978-0394569826.Egginton, Joyce (1990). From cradle to grave: the short lives and strange deaths of Marybeth Tinning's nine children (Jove ed.). New York: Berkley. ISBN 978-0515103014.https://web.archive.org/web/20141010012046/http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/marybeth_tinning/2.htmlGado, Mark (2011). Bardsley, Marilyn (ed.). Crimescape | Mom: The Killer. New York City: RosettaBooks. ISBN 9780795319228."Sacrifice Their Blood | Deadly Women | Investigation Discovery GO". Investigation Discovery GO. 2017.https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1917&dat=19861211&id=sRUhAAAAIBAJ&pg=1301,4013409https://people.com/crime/marybeth-tinning-child-murderer-parole-laying-low/https:// Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Two young girls gunned down on a beautiful June day" is a headline we, Americans, are all too familiar with. However, most people would be shocked to discover that the brutal slayings occurred along a tree-lined dirt road in America's heartland. "That type of violence doesn't happen here," or "We moved to the country to get away from this type of thing," is what we often hear after such a violent act occurs. And indeed, those were the very emotions that locals expressed in June of 2008, when eleven-year-old Skyla Jade Whitaker and her best friend, thirteen-year-old Taylor Dawn Paschal-Placker, were shot thirteen times while walking home from the creek on a beautiful June afternoon.Police would work on solving the young girl's murder for three years without any luck. It would take the disappearance and murder of 23-year-old Ashley Taylor to lead police to Skyla's and Taylor's killer.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Bad Creek Bridge: Taylor Paschal-Placker, Skyla Whitaker, and Ashley Taylor."Promo from our friend Bob Motta of Defense Diaries. You won't want to miss this podcast.See Cam and Jen at True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival on August 25-27, 2023, in Austin, Texas. Go to https://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/ and use code OTCP for discounted tickets!Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoNico at https://www.wetalkofdreams.com/ for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.Sources:Now I Lay Me Down by Faith Phillips https://www.amazon.com/dp/1724577123?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_STH5VV43T5NZF0AKTZZJhttps://people.com/crime/how-dead-woman-helped-crack-cold-case-of-murdered-schoolgirls/https://www.podcastone.com/episode/Ep-42-Terror-in-Oklahoma-Kevin-Sweat-casehttps://youtu.be/OnPm6DVx5yQhttps://youtu.be/H-d0hlesG2Mhttps://www.amazon.com/The-Message-in-Red/dp/B091HS4X7P/ref=sr_1_4?crid=5LKKE9DC02Y&keywords=murder+comes+to+town&qid=1677446257&s=instant-video&sprefix=murder+comes+to+town%2Cinstant-video%2C95&sr=1-4 (When Murder Comes to Town Season 3 Episode 10)https://www.amazon.com/Right-Place-Wrong-Time/dp/B091Z4H1YP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=UIC9AR8U2OTV&keywords=Discovery+plus+Shadow+of+a+Doubt&qid=1677446519&s=instant-video&sprefix=discovery+plus+shadow+of+a+doubt%2Cinstant-video%2C94&sr=1-1 (Shadow of Doubt Season 2 Episode 7)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16532154/?ref_=ttep_ep6 (Killer Relationship with Faith Jenkins Season 1 Episode 6)https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/27510441/skyla-jade-whitakerhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/double-child-murder-cold-case-4648173https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712481/Oklahoma-man-admits-killing-2-girls-fiancee.htmlhttps://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-man-ordered-to-trial-in-deaths-of-2-oklahoma-girls-2013jan29-story.htmlhttps://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2011/06/11/small-town-in-oklahoma-suffers-one-tragedy-after-another/61157301007/https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/kevin-sweat-murdered-ashley-taylor-2-kids-in-oklahomahttps://bridgehunter.com/ok/okfuskee/bh42977/https://ktul.com/news/local/weleetka-murders-still-a-mystery-ten-years-laterhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/709614130/?terms=Weleetka%20Placker&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/910117113/?terms=Weleetka%20Placker&match=1https://goo.gl/maps/KQHjv26Xia3U82Cr7https://www.newspapers.com/image/454519610/?terms=Weleetka%20Placker&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/910121158/?terms=Weleetka%20Placker&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/454517245/?terms=Weleetka%20Placker&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s bizarre tale begins in Chelsea in 1977, where we go to the home of Walter Travers Scott- Elliot and his 60-year-old wife, Dorothy. The couple enjoyed the riches of what they had worked hard for all their lives, and they were pretty well off, upper crust if you will. Walter and Dorothy came from well-established families and lived in a penthouse apartment surrounded by expensive collectibles. The couple managed a small staff at home. In November of 1977, they hired a man named Roy Fontaine. Roy Fontaine presented himself just as you would imagine a butler would. He was refined and well-spoken. He quickly impacted the Scott-Elliots and gained their trust; they even let him sign checks for them and handle their finances. Unfortunately for the Scott-Elliots, there was a lot about their new butler that they did not know and would pay dearly for. Mr. Fontaine was not who he said he was; his real name was Archibald Thomson Hall, but that was only the beginning. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The Butler Did It: Roy Fontaine.’Edward OctoberpodVHS gave us a brand new shiny listener discretion. He’s the best. Check him out at @octoberpodVHS.All music is original and amazing courtesy of our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/nostalgia/crimelibrary/archibaldthomsonhall/themurderousbutler/https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/history/glasgows-demon-butler-who-became-24957298https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hall-archibald.htmhttps://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hall-archibald.htmhttps://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/the-monster-butler-fake-toff-serial-1098917https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6z5amshttps://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C15180674Books:Hall, Roy Archibald (2002). To Kill and Kill Again: The Chilling True Confessions of a Serial Killer. John Blake. ISBN 978-1-85782-555-8.Pender, Paul (2012). The Butler Did It: My True and Terrifying Encounters with a Serial Killer. Mainstream Publishing. ISBN 9781780575612.Nicol, Allan (2011). The Monster Butler. Black & White Publishing. ISBN 978-1-84502-336-2. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Four hours northwest of the central city of Melbourne, located in the southeast region of the continent, lies the vast and protected 1.6 million-acre Alpine National Park. Known as the adventure lovers' dream, the park's mountains make up part of what is known as the Great Dividing Range and offer stunning views of towering ridges, lush wildflower valleys, and majestic waterfalls. Plenty of camping, skiing, and hiking can be enjoyed if one is so inclined.However excellent the travel brochure for the Australian Alps may sound, locals understand that the landscape can also be a nightmare for people who are not adequately prepared. Victoria is home to at least four venomous snakes and any number of bees, wasps, ticks, and spiders. So when a local farmer driving to town saw two half-naked, sunburnt people stumble on the road before him, he realized they must have been lost in the park and immediately stopped to help them. The couple, seventeen-year-old Carolynne Watson and twenty-two-year-old Julian Buchwald were taken to Buchan police station. The story that unfolded was the stuff of nightmares, harrowing.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss 'Terror in the Bushland.'This episode of OTCP is sponsored by Rothy's. We love their products and know you will, too! Get $20 off your first purchase at rothys.com/OTCP.Come see Cam and Jen at True Crime & Paranormal Podcast Festival on August 25-27, 2023, in Austin, Texas. Go to https://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/ and use code OTCP for discounted tickets!Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.Sources:https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/nailed-bailed-jailed-then-derailed-the-bush-plot-that-cost-a-man-his-country-20160427-gofuxd.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUC4dWpdWmYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLzD7IrZq70https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Satanic+kidnap+'a+fake'.-a0176720333https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angleshttps://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sex-ruse-kidnapper-julian-mathias-buchwald-loses-appeal/news-story/f3f792553f00af165af676a69aae5495https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/true-crime-scene/twisted-romeos-darren-saltmarsh-and-julian-buchwald-turned-the-search-for-love-to-pure-terror/news-story/e85b3f7b43b48aea7ceade6803605aa6https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/nailed-bailed-jailed-then-derailed-the-bush-plot-that-cost-a-man-his-country-20160427-gofuxd.htmlhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-25/gippsland-appeals-kidnap-sentence/2855750https://www.smh.com.au/national/longer-jail-term-for-notsogreat-escape-20091021-h91b.htmlhttps://www.theage.com.au/national/missing-couple-planned-marriage-at-years-end-20080309-ge6tnh.htmlhttps://www.thefreelibrary.com/Satanic+kidnap+'a+fake'.-a0176720333https://www.google.com/maps/place/Budgeree+VIC+3870,+Australia/@-38.4334681,145.8701512,9z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x6b297043ed4be9df:0x40579a430a05b40!8m2!3d-38.4255528!4d146.360725!16s%2Fg%2F1tdyft2yhttps://www.victorianplaces.com.au/budgereehttps://www.facebook.com/budgeree/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Victoria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On September 17, 1995, in Boksburg, South Africa, a Johannesburg Police Reservist had the day off and decided to enjoy the day by hunting rabbits. As the man was walking in the field, the putrid smell hit him. It smelled of death, but it was not just one decomposing body, but several. This was the dumping ground and the killing field of a serial killer. Some bodies were unrecognizable since they had been out there a long time, while others looked freshly killed. Thirty police officers, dogs, and a helicopter were called for a grid search. The police believed they knew who was responsible for these deaths since they knew a killer had been working in the area for nearly a year, but this was new. The killer had been killing women and dumping them but never like this, never all in one spot. He was getting reckless and didn’t care, or he was getting brave and better at his actions. The mass grave held ten bodies. Authorities would discover many more bodies in the places such as Atteridgeville, Boksburg, and Cleveland, earning him the moniker ABC Killer. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The ABC Killer: Moses Sithole.’Special shoutout to June's Journey for sponsoring this episode!Listener discretion @octoberpodVHSMusic @wetalkofdreamsAs I stated on the podcast, here is a list of victims:(date is the day they disappeared/died, followed by the name, age, and discovery date)July 6, 1994 - Maria Monene Monama, 18August 6, 1994 - Amanda Kebofile Thethe, 26August 19, 1994 - Joyce Thakane Mashabela, 32September 7, 1994 - Refilwe Amanda Mokale, 24September 18, 1994 - Rose Rebothile Mogotsi, 22December 1994 - *Unidentified Victim* (discovered 3 January 1995)January 1995 - Beauty Nuku Soko, 27March 3, 1995 - Sara Matlakala Mokono, 25April 7, 1995 - Nikiwe Diko (discovered 24 June)April 12, 1995 - Letta Nomthandazo Ndlangamandla, 25April 20, 1995 - Sibusiso Nomthandazo Ndlangamandla, 2May 12, 1995 - Esther Moshibudi Mainetja, 29May 23, 1995 - Granny Dimakatso Ramela, 21 (discovered 18 July)May 25, 1995 - Elizabeth Granny Mathetsa, 19 (discovered 16 June)May 30, 1995 - Mildred Ntiya Lepule, 28 (discovered 26 July)June 13, 1995 - Francina Nomsa Sithebe, 25June 22, 1995 - Ernestina Mohadi Mosebo, 30July 14, 1995 - Elsie Khoti Masango, 25 (discovered on 8 August)July 17, 1995 - Josephine Mantsali Mlangeni, 25August 8, 1995 - Oscarina Vuyokazi Jakalase, 30 (discovered 23 August)August 9. 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*August 15, 1995 - Makoba Tryphina Mogotsi, 26 (discovered 17 September)August 28, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*August 30, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*September 4, 1995 - Nelisiwe Nontobeko Zulu, 26 (discovered 17 September)September 7, 1995 - Amelia Dikamakatso Rapodile, 43 (discovered 17 September) September 12, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*September 12, 1995 - Monica Gabisile Vilakazi, 31 (discovered 17 September)September 17, 1995 - Hazel Nozipho Madikizela, 21 (discovered 17 September)September 17, 1995 - Tsidi Malekoae Matela, 45September 17, 1995 - *3 Unidentified Victims*September 24, 1995 - Agnes Sibongile Mbuli, 20 (discovered 3 October)October 9, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*October 10, 1995 - Beauty Ntombi Ndabeni (discovered 11 October)October 14, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*November 6, 1995 - *Unidentified Victim*Sources: https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/moses-sithole-south-africa-s-worst-serial-killer/timeline Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just across the Mississippi River from St. Louis, Missouri, lies Collinsville, Illinois. In this town, the Merrifields raised their blended family of thirteen children.In August 1999, the Merrifields looked forward to adding two new grandchildren to their ever-growing family. Their daughter, 18-year-old, Jossie, was due any day with her second child, and their daughter Sandra May, who was four years older than Jossie, was due just a short while later with the baby she had long been trying for. The Merrifield family was large, consisting of nine girls and four boys, with plenty of little ones running around to keep things interesting. But before August was over, tragedy would strike the family.Join Cam and Jen as we discuss 'For The Want Of A Child: The Murder of Jossie Merrifield.Thanks to the following folks for making this possible!Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.And a huge thank you to Andy from stabbyhamlet.com for all the stickers, pens, and magnets. Make sure you check out his store for great underground metal music artists. You will find albums, graphic novels, and fun characters that are only available to them.Sources:http://www.catsupbottle.com/index.htmlhttps://cahokiamounds.org/https://thecinemaholic.com/jossie-merrifield-murder-where-is-sandra-merrifield-now/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Z1plXV6k8https://www.newspapers.com/image/769760588/?terms=Merrifield&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/769760725/?terms=Merrifield&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/128936873/?terms=Merrifield&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/769761257/?terms=Merrifield&match=1https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193175552/jossie-lynn-merrifield#:~:text=Funeral%20services%20will%20be%20at,St%20John%20Cemetery%20in%20Collinsville.&text=Jossie%20was%20survived%20by%20her,senior%20at%20Collinsville%20High%20School. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On June 28, 1990, two TWA flight attendants decided to grab a bite to eat near the St Louis Lambert airport. They decide to go to a local Mexican fave, Casa Gallardo, on St Charles Rock Road. The pair were seated at a table next to the window. As the pair were talking and trying to decide between the chimichanga or the steak soft tacos, but definitely a must is the grande margarita or, even better, a pitcher of margs. Sitting at their table, one woman noticed something in the bushes across the parking lot. It was hard to make out, and even when they questioned if what they thought they saw was truly what it was. One of the flight attendants called over the manager to point it out. The manager shut the blinds to all the windows facing that direction. It was nearly 1 pm when the manager called the Bridgeton police. After the police arrived, the crime scene investigators followed. The flashbulbs were popping, and crime scene tape went up. It was as if someone had purposely placed it there to stare at the patrons of the restaurant. The dirty skull looked fake, but it was very real. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘What Happened to Linda Sherman?’Listener discretion is by the talented @octoberpodVHS All music is by our executive producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://unsolved.com/gallery/linda-sherman/https://truecrimearticles.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/the-unsolved-disappearance-of-linda-sherman/https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Linda_Shermanhttps://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/body-of-evidence-2475396https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mo-linda-sue-sherman-27-skull-found-st-louis-22-april-1985.531293/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13038307/linda-sue-shermanhttps://www.theintelligencer.com/news/slideshow/5-unsolved-mysteries-from-around-St-Louis-and-224675.phphttps://www.stltoday.com/news/local/michael-webb-vinita-park-police-chief-pursued-murder-case-for-years/article_af4d26e9-195a-5206-ba1c-4bad8557c3c9.htmlhttps://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/rip-frank-anzalone-clayton-attorney-defended-those-no-one-would-touch-2603674https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/ill-probably-die-in-that-chair-legendary-st-louis-attorney-frank-anzalone-cant-envision-a-time-when-hell-no-longer-be-practicing-law-2483596 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse was an All-American young man who was voted Most Likely to Succeed. Patricia was an All-American young woman on track to become a nurse. When the two met, sparks flew. Even though they were usually separated by distance, they knew they would be together forever.On February 12, 1971, Jesse unexpectedly showed up at Watt's Nursing School in Durham, North Carolina, where Patricia attended, to take her to the Valentine's Dance. The two had a fantastic night at the dance, then left at 11:30 to go to Lover's Lane.When the two failed to return home, friends and family knew something was wrong and began searching for the two lovebirds.Then on February 25, a land surveyor found what he thought was a mannequin leg covered with leaves deep in the woods, only four miles from Jesse and Patricia's last known whereabouts. Upon closer look, he saw the bodies of Jesse McBane and Patricia Mann. They had been tied to an oak tree and covered by leaves and debris. Their hands were tied behind their backs, and a rope was around their necks. This case has remained unsolved for fifty-two years and needs closure. Join Cam and Jen as they go over the case along with the three main suspects. Maybe you will be the one that can help the police solve the case.If you have any information, no matter how small, about the abduction, torture, and murder of Jesse McBane and Patricia Mann, please contact the Orange County Sheriff's department at 919-644-3050 or visit the Orange County Sheriff's Office's website at www.ocso.com.Make sure to check out the long-form podcast The Long Dance with investigating reporter Drew Adamek and writer/filmmaker Eryk Pruitt. It is well done and chock full of information and interviews with many people involved. Jen loved it!Thank you to our team that helped make this episode possible:Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.Sources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/714863400/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/714863475/?terms=Jesse%20McBanehttps://www.newspapers.com/image/646280721/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/646111279/?terms=Jesse%20McBanehttps://www.newspapers.com/image/662421035/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/787518118/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/787518136/?terms=Jesse%20McBanehttps://www.newspapers.com/image/787781871/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/786655309/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/787507036/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/662422419/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/786694153/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/787897967/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/656350784/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/662420511/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/786694416/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/662421231/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/340176850/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/787390649/?terms=Jesse%20McBane&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is July 27, 1987, and 27-year-old single mother Rebecca Spencer is sound asleep on her couch. She wakes to a stranger above her. The man has a knife and uses all his strength to bring the knife down and stab Becky violently repeatedly. The community was in shock but the police were sure they would solve the case fast. They were wrong and the case went cold for two years. The killer would strike again on September 4, 1989, when a mother and her two children were attacked in the middle of the night. Police were shocked by the heinousness of the crime but the bigger shock was soon to come when investigators found the killer. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘America’s Youngest Serial Killer: Craig Price.’Promo is by our good friends Mike Garson from Brew Crime and Paige Elmore from Reverie True Cime. Mike and Paige launched a new podcast called BrewVerie. Take a listen and check them out.Listener discretion is by our buddy @octoberpodVHSMusic is by Nico @wetalkofdreams –he is also our executive producerSources: https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Craig-Pricehttps://www.wpri.com/news/tape-of-craig-prices-chilling-confession-surfaces-1-year-before-serial-killers-potential-release/https://alchetron.com/Craig-Price-(murderer)https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/courts/2019/01/18/craig-price-gets-25-years-in-stabbing-of-inmate/986782007/https://turnto10.com/news/local/craig-price-pleads-guilty-to-attempted-murder-in-floridahttps://murderpedia.org/male.P/p/price-craig.htm#:~:text=Craig%20Price%20(also%20known%20as,criminal%20record%20for%20petty%20theft.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCnW7H_2PVs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another listener requested episode. Thank you, Chris Johnson!Cam and Jen discuss two unsolved cases involving missing women in the Orlando area in Florida.First, we discuss Michelle Parker. Michelle disappeared in 2011, just hours after millions of viewers tuned in to see her and her ex-fiance, Dale Smith, on The People's Court. She was last seen dropping off her twins at Smith's apartment. There is a $200,000 reward for any tips leading to an arrest or where she is located.Then we discuss the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio in 2009. She was last seen leaving a bar called Florida Tap Room in Ocoee with a man named James Hataway. Tracy's car was found 150 yards away from Hataway's home, but she has never been found.James Hataway has since been sentenced to life in prison for the attempted murder of another woman who had given him a ride home. If you have any information about these two women, please call Crimelines at 1-800-423-8477.This episode of OTCP is sponsored by Rothy's. We love their products and know you will, too! Get $20 off your first purchase at rothys.com/OTCP. This week's promo is from our friend Edward of OctoberpodVHS. His new project drops in February.Thanks to the following folks for making this possible!Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme music.Lauretta Allen for research and writing.These are the videos I spoke about in this episode. Please go to ourtruecrimepodcast.com for the complete list of sources.WFTV The Search: Michelle ParkerWFTV The Search: Tracy OcasioWFTV The Search: Jennifer Kesse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid.When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future, and that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads.From Wondery comes a story about life, death, and what comes next.Follow Frozen Head on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Listen to Frozen Head: Wondery.fm/FH_OTCP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thomas Haines was a 50-year-old industrial supplies local sales manager, while his 47-year-old wife Lisa was a preschool teacher at Lancaster Brethren Preschool. The couple had a 20-year-old daughter named Maggie who had just completed her sophomore year at Bucknell University where she was studying biology and a 16-year-old son named Kevin who was a sophomore at Manheim Township High School. The family was a loving one, with the parents willing to help their children in any way they could. The family of four was enjoying the start of summer break but little did they know, a killer was lurking nearby who had an evil plan he was about to unfold. Join Cam and Jen as we discuss ‘Motiveless Murder: Haines Family Massacre’ on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast.’Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic/EP by @wetalkofdreamsSources: Book: Kreider, Tim. Refuse to Drown.https://web.archive.org/web/20131012070538/http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=5398048https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_Next_Doorhttp://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0%2C%2C20214203%2C00.htmlhttps://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-never-revealed-motive-for-killing-his-friend-friends-parents-in-brutal-2007-stabbing/article_cf578904-e195-11e6-80c1-5f1fae40c6f7.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_Kidshttps://web.archive.org/web/20070929083554/http://images.lancasteronline.com/local/205764snbaffidavit.tifhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_Lives_Herehttps://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/01/father_of_triple_murderer_post.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt2244585/ Unusual Suspectshttps://people.com/archive/rage-to-kill-vol-70-no-2/https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-commits-suicide-in-prison-was-serving-3-life-terms-for-brutal-manheim-township/article_91ad8c82-e183-11e6-8051-af868aee3ec1.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And now for something completely different for you to enjoy on Friday the 13th!Listen to Rogue Transmissions brought to you by our friends Edward of Octoberpod AM on all podcast platforms, as well as Octoberpod Home Video on YouTube, and J.T. of the Brew Crime Podcast, Crime Trials, Active Shooter, and more!Samantha (MJ McAdams from Humble Hauntings and Octoberpod) and Calvin (J.T. from Brew Crime Podcast) are moving into their new, very haunted home. All the items they find in the house still work without batteries or being plugged in. Throughout this journey, presented by Octoberpod, Calvin and Samantha will discover the terrifying secret of the 13th Hour. The revelations will shock you!It's Friday the 13th, the day when anything is possible.You are listening to Rogue Transmissions.Paige of Reverie True Crime comes over the airwaves to explain the origins of Friday the 13th. Why are people all over the world so superstitious and fearful and consider this day the unluckiest of all?Next up, it's Brew Crime Podcast with J.T. and Mike! They're talking about Sam Patch. A daredevil who dared a little too much one Friday the 13th decided to perform his biggest stunt involving a bear, Niagara Falls, and Genesee Falls.Hey! Curious Cat Podcast, hosted by Jennifer, is on now! She's discussing something mysterious and haunting. As of now, 15 feet have washed ashore on the coast of the Salish Sea in British Columbia, Canada, and a few in the state of Washington that matched some of the other feet in British Columbia. Thirteen of those feet have been identified. Where are these feet coming from? Who do these feet belong to?Suddenly, Our True Crime Podcast, with hosts Jen and Cam, breaks through the static. They tell us about Samantha and Calvin, the love birds who are moving into this eerie home. Everything is not as it seems, and you won't believe what is uncovered.Then, Nikki of Serial Napper comes on. The classic horror film, Friday the 13th, may seem unreal, but Nikki tells us about a terrifying tragedy that occurred in 1960 in Finland. Four teenagers went camping at Lake Bodom and were slain. This case seems like it is straight out of a horror movie, but unfortunately, these are true events that will make you second guess that summer camping trip.Spine Chillers and Serial Killers, hosted by Emma, Tash, and Becky, switch on. Their first story happened on Friday the 13th in 1972, when Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 was headed to Santiago, Chile. What happened is known as the Andes flight disaster or the Miracle of the Andes. Then, we are presented with a disturbing occurrence from a Friday the 13th in 2012. Brittany Kilgore was murdered during, what she thought, was an S&M session. Lastly, you won't believe what happened on a Friday the 13th at 13:13 to a 13-year-old boy in Lowestoft, England.Thank you for listening to Rogue Transmissions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*****CONTENT WARNING*****In 1984, the beautiful, tranquil area of Burnt River in Ontario, Canada, attracted the attention of the free-spirited, organic-food-growing faith community called the Ant Hill Kids. Along an isolated road on August 16th, 1989, it was here that a member of that faith community hitch-hiked her way to a hospital, protecting the stump that used to be her right arm. A former nurse herself, Gabrielle Lavallee knew only too well the horrors that could befall an untreated amputation. But any horror that could result from rampant infection was mild compared to the horror she’d already endured.Gabrielle, determined to leave the "utopian" community behind, eventually spilled her story to the police. Gabrielle had existed in conditions far from utopian. She had been living in an absolute sadistic hellscape, controlled and manipulated by the Ant Hill Kids leader, a Quebec man named Roch Theriault. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss a case that is so heinous and bizarre that if it were a work of fiction, the author would be taken to task for making up such an unbelievable story.If you or any loved ones need help with either leaving a cult or are in need of therapy to recover from your experiences, you can visit the International Cultic Studies Association’s website at https://www.icsahome.com/supportPromo by Tales From the Darkside. Be sure to check out Season 5Thank you to Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme.Lauretta Allen for research and writingSources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/466768310/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743679526/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/50184105/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/730036276/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743686544/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503365026/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503737823/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423673939/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/733562728/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503747306/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423672635/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/735333684/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503992547/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roch_Th%C3%A9riaulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOobUNHNVchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1vnaYiNH-ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wBXOkcvhDg&t=889shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cw8Xeb3zFYhttps://morbidology.com/the-ant-hill-kids/https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/canadian-messiah-formed-doomsday-cult-ulcer-problems-article-1.3797931https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/roch-theriault-the-horrifying-savagery-home-surgery-of-canadas-most-violent-cult-leaderhttps://www.namnab.com/post/the-canadian-cult-you-ve-never-heard-of-the-ant-hill-kidshttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/chilling-insight-doomsday-cult-members-13995059https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1983/1/10/the-reactionary-face-of-catholicism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For more than three and a half decades, the disappearance of 12-year-oldJonelle Matthews was a mystery – a riddle neither authorities nor her familymembers could solve. The residents of her cloistered Colorado hometown hadscoured every inch of prairie. Jonelle’s face had been on milk cartons nationwide.Even the President of the United States had appealed to the public for help. Still,every lead had fizzled. Every person of interest had turned out to be a dead end.Then, in 2019, Jonelle’s remains were unearthed near the foothills of the RockyMountains. With the discovery came a troubling new question: Had the truth beenhiding in plain sight the entire time? Was the man who couldn’t stop obsessingover Jonelle’s disappearance also the person who took her?From Campside Media and Wondery comes season two of SUSPECT. Former CNN reporterAshley Fantz and executive producers Matthew Shaer and Eric Benson(Suspect, Over My Dead Body) dig into one of the most mind-bending cold casesin modern history, in an attempt to separate fact and fiction, compulsion fromguilt, and true-crime fandom from a motive for murder.Hey Prime Members, you can binge all 6 episodes of SUSPECT: Vanished in the Snow ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today: Wondery.fm/OTCP_Sus2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the small town of Cloudcroft, located in a mountainous region of New Mexico, rumors began to surround a seventeen-year-old girl named Sheila Simmons. It was 1981, and most 17-year-old girls were excited about watching music videos on the newly launched 24-hour music channel MTV, reading Teen magazines, dressing in the latest fashion trends, and taking over the landline to chat with each other about their day and other important things. But Sheila's reality was, tragically, much darker. Shy, ashamed, and threatened into silence, she finally admitted her secret to a school counselor after much pressure: she was pregnant. What's more, the father of her unborn child was also the baby's grandfather, 40-year-old Ronald Gene Simmons. When he learned he was being investigated by authorities, Simmons felt betrayed. In a letter discovered almost a decade later, he warned his daughter, quote, "You have destroyed me, and you have destroyed my trust in you…I will see you in Hell."Little did anyone know, things would only get worse from that moment on.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 12: The Mockingbird Hill Massacre: Ronald Gene SimmonsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Researched and Written by Jesse HawkeSources:Sourceshttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-12-30-mn-21766-story.html https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/ronald-gene-simmons-3731/ https://apnews.com/article/6c5ee3b239d03ca1b0302e14795ed02c https://murderpedia.org/male.S/s1/simmons-ronald-gene.htm https://truecrimefanclub.com/2019/06/05/ronald-gene-simmons/ http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/simmons131.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The year is 1958, and America is still innocent in terms of evil people. We know they were always around, but with snail mail and no internet, things that made the news are not like they are today. Someone commits a heinous crime in Manchester, England, and in mere seconds, we here in the US hear about it. Today's case, Day 11, takes us back to when Eisenhouse and Nixon led the US and the FBI, led by J. Edgar Hoover, was America’s watchdog. Even though it entered the lexicon in early 1900, the word teenager was coming into the common language. Teens were becoming more independent from their parents thanks to public education. No longer were young children pulled from school to go to work. This led to some rebellion from those teens, who were better to show the cause than James Dean and Elvis. Perhaps it was perfect timing in the US, or maybe it was the shock of how two teenagers could capture the world's attention and go down in infamy. The couple would be memorialized in such movie classics as Terrance Malik’s 1974 Badlands with Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek as the leads, Tarrantino’s True Romance, David Lynch’s Wild at Hart, Oliver Stone’s Natural Born Killers. Even today, the couple still holds our gaze with movies, tv shows, songs, books, and more. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 11-Bad Romance: Charles Starkweather and Caril FugateListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:http://www.biography.com/articles/Charles-Starkweather-233080https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6100https://books.google.com/books?id=CxYeAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA39&article_id=2740,4258335https://www.archive.org/details/killerscontractk0000cawt/page/174https://books.google.com/books?id=348UAAAAIBAJ&q=%22Charles+Starkweather%22&pg=PA21&article_id=5866,2297883#v=onepagehttps://lincolnlibraries.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/StarkweatherTimeline.pdfhttps://www.newspapers.com/clip/77473754/the-miami-news/https://www.wyohistory.org/encyclopedia/killing-spree-transfixed-nation-charles-starkweather-and-caril-fugate-1958https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/killer-couple-strikes-the-heartland Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On April 17, 1974, a seventeen-year-old girl in Stuttgart, Germany, was visiting her boyfriend. After saying her goodbyes, she left for the train station at around 12:30 am. Along the way, a Fiat with three passengers pulled up beside her to ask for directions. These men, who were US Army soldiers, asked the girl for directions and offered her a ride home. The girl thought that the three were trustworthy. Sadly, her instincts were very quickly proved wrong. One of the men sprung a knife on her, and they drove to a remote location to sexually assault her. All three of the men raped her, and one of them took photographs during the attack. Ingrid was brought back to the car and finally dropped off at home. Ingrid, thinking on her feet, pretended that she was interested in the men, coaxing them to give her a phone number so she could get back in touch with them later. One of them fell for it and agreed, giving her his number. This man was 21-year-old Lonnie David Franklin Jr, a US army private cook stationed at the Kelley Barracks in Stuttgart. Ingrid didn’t know she was not the only victim of the three men that night or that this man would go on to become one of the most prolific serial killers of all time in America.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 10 The Grim Sleeper: Lonnie Franklin JrThe photos of the unidentified women suspected to be victims of Franklin are available to view at the following link: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/grim-sleeper-serial-killer-suspects-secret-photos/9/. Anyone with information about these women is asked to call 1-877-LAPD-24-7.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and Researched by Jesse HawkeSOURCEShttp://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/260246/Grim-Sleeper-Investigation-Timeline#vars!date=1985-11-02_13:12:56! https://web.archive.org/web/20180617201135/http://www.lapdonline.org/grimsleeper https://thecinemaholic.com/who-were-the-grim-sleepers-victims-how-many-people-did-he-kill/ Lonnie Franklin: The Grim Sleeper Serial Killer Who Terrorized Los Angeles Lonnie Franklin, serial killer dubbed "Grim Sleeper," found dead in San Quentin State Prison - CBS News The Infamous Case Of Lonnie Franklin Jr ( JCS Inspired ) Grim Sleeper' Serial Killer Lonnie Franklin Once Gang Raped a German Teenhttps://www.laweekly.com/grim-sleeper-returns-hes-murdering-angelenos-as-cops-hunt-his-dna/ 'Everybody knew Lonnie' - Los Angeles Times Police collect hundreds of pieces of evidence from Grim Sleeper suspect's home - Los Angeles Times ‘Grim Sleeper’ Serial Killer: Everything You Need to Know – Rolling Stone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is November 11, 1988, when Detective John Cabrera and his team pay a visit to the once regal but past its prime Victorian home located on F Street in Sacramento, California. The detectives are conducting a wellness check on 51-year-old Alvaro "Bert" Montoya. Bert, a tenant at the home, has an intellectual disability. His social worker had phoned the police, worried that he was missing since she had not heard from him. They knock on the door and are greeted by a landlady of the home, an older woman. Det. Caberea asked her if they could look around the place, and she agreed and told them to go ahead. “Dig in my yard. I don’t know what’s out there.” She knew exactly what, or shall I say, who was in her yard.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 9: Landlady from Hell: Dorothea Puente.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-25/news/mn-500_1_doodyhttps://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-xpm-2011-mar-28-la-me-0328-dorothea-puente-20110328-story.htmlhttps://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8b85fn5/entire_text/http://www.absolutecrime.com/dorothea-puente-and-the-boarding-house-of-death.html#.XWXz2Ht7nIUhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_Womenhttps://www.netflix.com/watch/81149403http://www.kcra.com/article/sacramento-serial-killer-s-former-home-renovated-ready-for-visits/6407363http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/city-beat/article33287136.html"House of Horrors". A Stranger in My Home. Season 1. Episode 1. October 13, 2013. Investigation Discoveryhttp://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/in-print-dorothea-puentes-killer-cookbook/Content?oid=897848 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

***The audio issues have been fixed. Please email us at [email protected] if you hear any problems with any of our episodes. Thank you for being so understanding! -JenDay 8On March 5th, 1984, a twenty-three-year-old Orange Bowl Princess named Elizabeth “Beth” Kenyon left the parking lot of the Coral Gables High School where she worked as a special needs teacher. Beth had also been a finalist in the Miss Florida contest in 1982. She thought the pageants were a lot of fun, but her heart was with the kids she taught. She waved goodbye to the security guard on duty, and it is presumed she was headed to the gym. However, she would never make it to the gym, nor would she make it home to her apartment on Ives Dairy Road. The police did list Beth as a missing person but assured the Kenyons their daughter was fine, claiming that young women her age went away for a few days without telling their parents all the time. Beth’s parents knew that their daughter was not that irresponsible. Convinced that something was wrong and unhappy with the apathetic attitude of the police, the Kenyons hired private investigators, a father-son duo named Ken Whittaker Senior and Junior. Ken Senior was an ex-FBI Chief and amazingly thorough. No clue was too small for him. Hiring them would be the most important step in this case.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 8: The Snapshot Killer: Christopher WilderListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Researched and written by JenCopy Editor Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43410008-the-snapshot-killer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmBXz0Emm38https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/beauty-queen-killer-christopher-wilder-florida-playboyhttps://www.amazon.com/Christopher-Wilder-Historical-Killers-Murderers-ebook/dp/B01EZ3Z87W/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=christopher+wilder&qid=1638501577&s=books&sr=1-3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJovpsOP1ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQDW9pr_KzA&t=1287shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHK-G1QsHshttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=19870426&id=QHZWAAAAIBAJ&pg=5084,7474822&hl=enhttps://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/08/15/Tina-Marie-Risico-the-teenager-who-accompanied-serial-killer/5727461390400/https://web.archive.org/web/20120421001039/http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/wilder/index.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120227031048/http://www.lawandordnance.com/Mystery-And-A-Spree-Killer.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120220033821/http://www.chronicle-express.com/news/police_and_fire/x342383242/-Nothing-ever-happens-herehttps://web.archive.org/web/20160403145301/http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/beauty-queen-killer-takes-bloody-ride-1984-article-1.2366878http://dingeengoete.blogspot.com/2012/04/christopher-wilder-beauty-queen-killer.htmlhttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19840425&id=cDodAAAAIBAJ&pg=6904,7213272https://web.archive.org/web/20131212203006/http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+TEEN%27S+TERRIFYING+DAYS+WITH+A+KILLER+IN+1984,+AN+L.A.-AREA+GIRL...-a0179511757https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/making-of-a-monster-christopher-wilder-the-beauty-queen-killer/https://www.dailybreeze.com/2021/07/19/south-bay-history-christopher-wilders-savage-crime-rampage-included-a-stop-off-in-the-south-bay/https://charleyproject.org/case/elizabeth-ann-kenyonhttps://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/1983-slaying-of-young-woman-may-have-been-work-of-serial-killer/article_8f92c889-687e-50fc-84fc-53cb210b162f.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

25-year-old John Rainwater and 22-year-old Lori Rainwater were a married couple just starting out. The couple had a 15-month-old daughter at home, and Lori had just got home from the hospital after delivering her son, who was just seven days old. The couple lived in Atascadero, CA and by all accounts, were a loving family with many friends. John and Lisa were Christians who managed an apartment complex at 8750 El Camino Real in Atascadero, a city with a population today of 29,000 and located in San Luis Obispo County. They worked hard to get their lives going and were excited about the future. The couple had a lifetime to look forward to, but one man changed all that on a chilly February morning in 1987.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 7:Blood Lust: The Rainwater Killings Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The 6th day takes us to the small town of Carnation, Washington. On December 24, 2007, 60-year-old Wayne Anderson, a retired engineer from Boeing, and his wife of 31 years, 61-year-old wife, Judy, were anxiously awaiting the arrival of their family to start celebrating the holiday. It was tradition for the Anderson family to get together on Christmas Eve. It was Wayne’s favorite holiday, and they celebrated by opening presents, eating, and enjoying everyone’s company. The couple was expecting their 29-year-old daughter Michele and her partner, Joe, who lived in a trailer on Anderson’s 11 acres. Their 32-year-old son Scott and his wife, Erica, would bring their two small children. In addition, 41-year-old Mary and her son were also planning on coming. At around 5 pm, the king county sheriff’s office receives a 911 call from Anderson’s home. When the dispatcher picked up the phone, they heard a woman screaming. The call only lasts 10 seconds before the line goes dead. The dispatcher tried to call back twice, but the calls went to voice mail. What happened in the home was vicious and savage, but the biggest shock was who committed this heinous crime. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 6Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/michele-anderson-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-6-relatives/https://www.q13fox.com/news/you-are-a-bully-and-coward-michele-anderson-told-before-given-6-life-sentences-for-killing-familyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVydO82yBNUhttps://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/At-long-last-Carnation-woman-who-wiped-out-6866197.phphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXQIcYckushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDiTNw2TwYhttps://www.nbc.com/homicide-for-the-holidays/video/a-christmas-massacre/3435780https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/i-wanted-my-mum-brother-and-dad-to-die/news-story/ddc51732d3e6f5deb9d7cfa4abf1c813https://torontosun.com/news/world/crime-hunter-yuletide-massacrehttps://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/tag/michele-anderson/https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/6-bodies-found-on-carnation-wa-property-122507-police-have-ruled-out-murder-suicide-no-suspects-yet/https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/timeline-of-carnation-killings-anderson-murder-trial/https://www.newspapers.com/image/577073483/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/581643398/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/815863858/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/822184042/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/806151704/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Pb0JOk7-Ahttp://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Man-admits-to-Carnation-killings-in-bid-to-dodge-5129224.phphttps://web.archive.org/web/20150119004927/http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/29/washington-family-murder-suspect-apologized-then-shot-kids-to-death/https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/michele-anderson-convicted-of-killing-6-family-members-to-be-sentenced/233177814/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Carnation_murdershttps://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/anderson-michele.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On day 5, we are headed to Lewistown, Idaho. It is also home to Lewis and Clark State College, where 21-year-old Kristina Nelson was a student in 1982. Kristy, as her friends and family call her, was a bright, articulate student studying business. While not attending classes, she enjoyed her passion for painting. She started a job as a custodian at the Lewiston Civic theatre to get to know more community members. Kristy’s step-sister, 19-year-old Brandy Miller, also worked at the theater with Kristy. Just like Kristy, Brandy was artistically inclined. On September 12, 1982, Kristina left a note for her boyfriend, who would be coming over later to hang out with them, and she didn’t want him to be confused when Kristy and Brandy were not home. The two needed to go to the store to pick up a few snacks for the night. The note assured him they would be home soon. Plans changed as Kristy’s boyfriend got home from work and fell asleep instead of going to hang out with Kristy. The following morning, he headed to Kristy’s apartment and found no one home. He did see the note from the night before on the table. Not thinking much of it, he went on his way. However, when the day came and went, the following day, having still not heard from her, he went to the Lewiston theatre and learned that she had failed to show up for work. In fact, none of Kristy’s friends had seen her at all. Kristy was very responsible, and her friends knew something was wrong. The boyfriend went to the police to file a missing person report for Kristy and Brandy.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 5:Valley of Death: The Lewis Clark Valley MurdersListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://vimeo.com/51442715:Confluencehttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_and_Exploited_Childrenhttps://klewtv.com/news/local/a-look-into-the-suspect-in-christina-white-disappearance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cody Legebokoff was born on January 21, 1990. He was raised in Fort St. James, a districtmunicipality characterized by severe, snowy winters and short summers on the southeastern shore of Stuart Lake in British Columbia. Cody grew up hunting for grouse and fishing for trout with his family, with whom he had a close relationship. Cody was into country music and dirt biking. He played minor hockey and soccer and competed on school downhill skiing and snowboarding teams. When he graduated from Fort St. James Secondary School in 2008, Cody spent a brief time living in Lethbridge, Alberta, before moving back to British Columbia and settling in Prince George, about 100 miles southeast of Fort St. James, working as a mechanic for a Ford dealership. Cody is presented as a “perfectly normal” young man, described by family and friends as popular, friendly, sociable, and kind-hearted, showing no propensity for violence. For these reasons, the residents of Fort St. James were left shocked and in disbelief when, after a routine traffic stop in November 2010, Cody was found to have committed a brutal murder. The discovery of this murder was just the start and would eventually lead to Cody Legebokoff being named one of Canada’s youngest serial killers.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 4 Canada's Youngest Serial Killer: Cody LegebokoffListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira Ackling Sources:“Fort St. James” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._James“Cody Legebokoff” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Legebokoff“Cody Legebokoff: Canada’s Youngest Serial Killer” - Crime Travellerhttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/08/cody-legebokoff-canadas-youngest-serial-killer/“Who is Cody Alan Legebokoff?” - Global News https://globalnews.ca/news/167103/who-is-cody-alan-legebokoff/“Loren Leslie Murder: Where is Cody Legebokoff Now?” - The Cinemaholichttps://thecinemaholic.com/loren-leslie-murder-where-is-cody-legebokoff-now/“Cody Alan Legebokoff” - Murderpedia https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/legebokoff-cody.htm“Cody Legebokoff had blood on face, legs when arrested, Crown says” - CBC Newshttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cody-legebokoff-had-blood-on-face-legs-when-arrested-crown-says-1.2663413“Autopsy reveals extensive injuries, Legebokoff trial hears” - Prince George Citizenhttps://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/legebokoff-trial-archive/autopsy-reveals-extensive-injuries-legebokoff-trial-hears-3712443“Legebokoff admits to playing a role in Stuchenko murder” - Prince George Free Presshttp://www.pgfreepress.com/legebokoff-admits-to-playing-a-role-in-stuchenko-murder/“Body found in gravel pit is missing mother of six” - CTV News https://bc.ctvnews.ca/body-found-in-gravel-pit-is-missing-mother-of-six-1.449385“For family of missing and murdered woman, violence has historical roots” - Alaska HighwayNews https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/bc-news/for-family-of-missing-and-murdered-woman-violence-has-historical-roots-3494237“Natasha Montgomery, Missing from British Columbia since 2010” - Justice for Native Womenhttp://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/04/natasha-montgomery-missing-from-british.html“The victims of alleged BC serial killer” - The Globe and Mailhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/the-victims-of-alleged-bc-serial-killer/article557840/“‘A slap in the face’: serial killer moved to medium security” - National Newshttps://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/a-slap-in-the-face-serial-killer-moved-to-medium-security/“Woman tells murder trial of relationship with Legebokoff” - Times Colonist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is day 3, and we are headed to Longview, Washington. It is a quiet, safe town located about 50 miles outside Portland, Oregon. It is May 15, 1985, when Danelle Traxler is waiting for her young daughter, 8-year-old Rima, to arrive home from school after her walk home. Her mother had a strange feeling knowing that Rima was never one to be late. Danelle went outside and traveled the same path Rima would have, hoping to run into her, but she did not see her. Danelle went home and called the police to report her 8-year-old missing. Danelle informs officers what Rima was wearing that day and emphasizes that Rima would never talk to strangers, much less get into a car with one. In fact, Rima had a password that her family would use in an emergency. Anyone asking Rima to get in the car with them-family or even friends-- would have to have the family password. No matter who it was, they had to have the password to let Rima know it was ok. It was as if Rima had simply disappeared. Sadly, this was not the first time a young girl disappeared from the area; even worse, it would not be the last. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas-Day 3: Killer Uncle Joe: Rima Traxler, Kara Rudd & Chila SilvernailsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark (2019). The Killer Across the Table: Unlocking the Secrets of Serial Killers and Predators with the FBI's Original Mindhunterhttps://tdn.com/news/local/child-killer-joseph-kondro-dies-at-state-prison/article_23c1a25c-964d-11e1-94e7-001a4bcf887a.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Sociopath-amazed-he-s-not-on-death-row-1061735.phphttps://tdn.com/news/local/california-author-examines-life-of-joseph-kondro/article_6ff0bc74-8aaa-11e2-9106-0019bb2963f4.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Part-6-In-their-own-words-The-twisted-art-of-1107772.phphttps://www.chronline.com/stories/cowlitz-county-detectives-say-40-year-old-cold-case-of-murdered-girl-still-open,289791 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 9th of October 1986, Karen Hadaway and Nicola Fellows returned home from school, running through the front doors of their respective homes, eager to get changed and play outside. Around 5 pm, the girls played with friends outside a neighbor's house. Shortly after this, the girls headed to Wild Park; despite knowing they were not allowed there, Nicola was told by her parents that the “boogeyman” lived there, hoping to scare her away from ever entering. Sadly, for unknown reasons, the girls entered the park that afternoon. The girls were spotted around 5:15 pm by a park policeman, playing on some trees, who warned them that they would hurt themselves. As the afternoon turned into evening, both families began to worry. 8 pm was their bedtime, and they both knew to be home by then, but there was no sign of either of them. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 2: Babe in the WoodsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira AcklingSources:SOURCES - “Russell Bishop (murderer)” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Bishop_(murderer) “Babes in the Woods murders (Wild Park) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_the_Wood_murders_(Wild_Park) “'I didn't top the girls': How brazen Russell Bishop greeted victim's father after police bailed him over Babes in the Wood murders... 32 years before he was eventually convicted” - Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6859693/Father-tells-32-years-scapegoat-Babes-Wood-murders.html#v-4228966068257666593“FACE OF A MONSTER Chilling pics shows Babes in the Wood killer Russell Bishop joining search for schoolgirls he brutally murdered” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7946214/cctv-footage-babes-wood-killer-joined-search-murdered-girls/“'HE'S A MONSTER' Babes in the Wood murder victims’ mums blast ‘coward’ killer as he’s FINALLY convicted 32 years on” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7942926/wicked-paedo-russell-bishop-finally-found-guilty-of-babes-in-the-woods-murders-32-years-on/“The Babes in the Wood murders and the killer who searched for his own victims” - Sussex Live https://www.sussexlive.co.uk/news/sussex-news/babes-wood-murders-killer-who-4511903“Russell Bishop jailed for 1986 Babes in the Wood murders” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46528206“Babes in the Wood murders: How killer paedophile Russell Bishop was caught by DNA, and tried to accuse victim's father” - Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/babes-wood-murders-russell-bishop-guilty-dna-father-barrie-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows-cruel-defence-a8630076.html“Paedophile denies murdering nine-year-olds - but admits sexually assaulting seven-year-old then lying about it” -... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our first nightmare before Christmas takes up back in time to 1961. It is March in Odessa, Texas, and while the state is known for being warm, the spring air is still crisp in the mornings. The William’s household is getting ready for the day. Mrs. Williams had made breakfast for her 17-year-old daughter Betty who is currently a senior at Odessa High School. Screaming her name from the small kitchen, Betty did not answer. Like most moms of teenagers, we are all too familiar with the oversleeping kid, so Mrs. Williams makes the walk down the hall to Betty’s room and knocks on the door, telling Betty her breakfast is getting cold and she is going to be late for school. When Betty doesn’t answer, she jiggles the door knob and realizes the door is locked. Mrs. Williams, perhaps out of fear or, more likely, anger, leaves the house through the front door to go around to the back of the house. Betty had an outside door in her bedroom, and well, Betty had been known to not always follow her parent's rules. As she opened the door, anger was now gone as she gazed upon a bed that had not yet been slept in during the night. Betty was missing.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 1: Kiss and Kill Murder: Betty Williams.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-kiss-and-kill-murder-ghost-of-odessa-high-school-20221029-gnokrx6tozfchdkvuxgejbqdpm-story.htmlhttps://www.cbs7.com/content/news/FIRST-ON-CBS7-Kiss-and-Kill-killer-has-died-504111961.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt5156498/https://medium.com/of-misdeeds-and-mysteries/killer-claims-girl-begged-him-to-shoot-her-6824335131bhttps://showbizcorner.com/betty-williams-murder-update-john-mack-herringhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCRRBO7JMNKF7?ASIN=097775586X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is October 17, 1941, and 73-year-old Phillip failed to answer his front door. Since his wife was in the hospital, the neighbors took turns having him over for dinner so he would not be all alone. This evening Phillip was excepted to come to the neighbor's house for food, and he didn’t show up. Not sure why the neighbor went to Philip’s house and knocked on the door, but no one answered. Worried something was wrong, she gathered a few more neighbors and went back to the house. After checking all the doors and windows, they located a window that was unlocked and a neighbor crawled into the window. The worst fears became a reality when the young woman started screaming about what she had discovered inside. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Spiderman of Denver: Theodore Coneys’Listener discretion is by our buddy @octoberpodVHS All music is by our EP @wetalkofdreams Promo is by our friend @santamaybeCheck out his fabulous and clever podcast ‘Santa Maybe A Criminal’Sources: https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/tale-denver-spider-manhttps://www.outtherecolorado.com/features/the-dark-creepy-tale-of-denvers-spider-man-reader-discretion-advised/article_926dccd6-7b94-11eb-b5f1-53f4e77bca3e.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/coneys-theodore.htmhttps://www.ranker.com/list/theodore-coneys-facts/jacob-sheltonhttps://web.archive.org/web/20040213070643/http://www.prisonmuseum.org/spider.htmhttps://www.audible.com/pd/15-Theodore-Edward-Coneys-The-Denver-Spider-Man-Podcast/B08ZSZRYWPhttps://www.reddit.com/r/CreepyWikipedia/comments/qgu95z/theodore_edward_coneys_a_murderer_who_squatted_in/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

****This is a brutal episode. Listener discretion is advised ****In April of 1973, on Friday the 13th, Elsie Ralph was at work, bartending at the Punch Bowl Tavern in the Rainbow Hill district of Worcester, England. At closing time, her husband came to pick her up and left their three young children at home with their lodger, David McGreavy.An hour later, as the couple approached their home, they were met by police, informing them that they could not enter their home. Elsie panicked and begged to know why. The police officer gravely told them, “There’s been a murder.” The police would not immediately share with the couple precisely who had been murdered or the details of the crime. Elsie became hysterical, and an ambulance medic gave her a sedative. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'The Monster of Worcester: David McGreavy'A big thank you to:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McGreavyhttps://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-mcgreavy-parole-babysitter-killed-three-children-impaled-bodies-railings-cleared-release-101026018.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-22623176https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/david-mcgreavy-the-monster-of-worcesterhttps://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-story-about-the-monster-of-worcester-david-mcgreavy-who-killed-3-children-d1eaea1bfc7chttps://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mcgreavy-david.htmhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-48593232http://www.murderuk.com/david-mcgreavy.htmlhttps://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/killer-babysitters-chilling-answer-asked-16418799https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9F4xfVtlU&t=6shttps://www.newspapers.com/image/829639153/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/290961364/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/785070134/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are headed to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, a resort town in the Midwest. The summer tourist season is about to kick off. The popular destination is located on Geneva Lake and has been popular for years, with everyone from the elite to kids hitting up the water parks. On June 5, 2014, a call came into the Walworth County Sheriff's Department at about 3:20 pm. The dispatch informed them that laying on the side of Como Road, were two suitcases discovered by a local farmer. The farmer attempted to move them, but as he approached, the smell let him know that he needed to call the police. As police arrived on the scene, they located two suitcases, a black one with plenty of insect activity on it and a purple one. Police unzipped the black one and discovered the body of a female inside. Even though the body was badly decomposed, it was a female, and her body was intact. There was a ball gag in her mouth attached to her head by a strap. Around her neck, there was a rope with both of her hands behind her body. It would take a while to find out who was responsible but they would find him.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss ‘The Suitcase Killer: Steven Zelich.’As always, our listener discretion is by Edward October @octoberpodVHS Check him out, you will love him. PromiseAll music is original by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams He makes us sound good…and that is a chore.Sources:https://www.wisn.com/article/court-ex-cop-can-try-to-rescind-guilty-plea-in-suitcase-death/34797666https://nypost.com/tag/steven-zelich/https://fox6now.com/2014/06/30/no-doubt-it-was-her-friends-family-of-jenny-gamez-were-just-waiting-on-dental-records-to-prove-it/https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/southwest/news/west-allis/2020/12/01/ex-west-allis-cop-convicted-murder-can-try-rescind-guilty-plea/6469784002/https://kcby.com/news/local/missing-oregon-womans-body-found-in-suitcase-in-wisconsin-11-13-2015-234817734https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062913/http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-arrested-in-connection-with-wi-suitcase-bodies-case/140271/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-wisconsin-cop-charged-in-suitcase-murders/https://fox6now.com/2017/10/13/steven-zelich-sentenced-to-10-years-for-hiding-bodies-of-women-in-suitcases/https://thecinemaholic.com/laura-simonson-and-jenny-gamez-murders-where-is-steven-zelich-now/https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/30/how-mrhandcuffs-ended-up-with-two-corpses-in-suitcases Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On July 25th, 1980, a couple looked out the window and saw a young woman running toward their apartment. She had long blond hair, and she was covered in blood. She was also naked from the waist down with her bikini top pulled over her breasts. The man says to his wife, “If she’s running like that, somebody’s chasing her.” As the girl knocked on the door, Robert swung it open. “Help me,” she muttered and then collapsed onto to the porch. The couple called 911, and Robert covered her up with a sheet.Police and rescue showed up within minutes. The ambulance whisked the girl off to the hospital while police followed the blood trail across the road to the back door of the apartment on Yale. They had found the crime scene and had identified the victim as Mary Michelle “Mickey” Fleming.With witnesses coming forward, police are able to identify the killer as Anthony Joe LaRette. After he was sentenced, Tony would start confessing to 30 other murders.Join Jen and Cam as we discuss A Serial Killer Walked In: The Death of Mary Michelle FlemingA big thank you to our team:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.amazon.com/She-Had-No-Enemies-Memoir/dp/143823144Xhttps://mocatholic.org/sites/missouricc/files/uploads/documents/october_2011.pdfhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt4568048/characters/nm12371050https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_LaRette#:~:text=Anthony%20Joe%20LaRette%20Jr.https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/1983/63569-0.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/male.L/l1/larette-anthony-joe.htmhttps://apnews.com/article/7fc0301036657b473d79f51fba165299https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1995/12/03/serial-killer-confided-in-detective/https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/serial-killer-anthony-joe-larette/https://www.scribd.com/podcast/418765688/THE-GIRL-THAT-HAD-NO-ENEMIES-AND-THE-MAN-WHO-HATED-WOMEN-De-Anthony-J-LaRette-Jr-had-been-on-a-ten-year-long-path-of-violence-murder-and-rape-Ehttps://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B091SLBS9Y/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s11https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37953386/tracey-millers-murderer-on-death-row/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was Thursday, May 19, 1983, at 10:48 pm when a red Nissan pulled up to the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital emergency room drop-off door honking the horn repeatedly. A blonde woman hops out of the car, screaming for help, and points to her car. Someone shot my kids, she yelled. Nurses Rose Martin and Shelby Day ran to the car and were momentarily stunned, noticing all the blood inside the vehicle. Inside there were three small children, one in the front seat and two in the backseat. When confronted with what was in front of them, hospital staff were called to come into the ER to help assist. Dr. John Mackey, the physician in charge, called the hospital’s number one surgeon Dr. Fred Whilhite came back to work because it was bad, it was very bad. Chest wounds to children and the conditions were grave. The girl in the front seat seemed to be already gone, but the ER staff tried desperately to bring her back to life, but it was too late; she would be pronounced dead in the ER. While the two in the backseat were still alive, they were struggling to breathe. The staff continued to try to save the other two children. They were not sure if they could be saved; with the gunshot wounds, each had severe loss of blood. To try to make breathing better for them, each was given a tracheotomy. So far, what they were doing was working; the children were alive and seemed to be stable. What was more important was why would anyone do this and, more importantly, who? Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Sins of the Mother: Diane Downs.”Listener Discretion is courtesy of @octoberpodVHSEP/Music is by @wetalkofdreamsSources: https://www.amazon.com/Small-Sacrifices-Story-Passion-Murder/dp/0451166604https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMXTsU4eqE (Oprah Episode) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QJ0roe2xSM (20/20)https://www.insideedition.com/true-story-diane-downs-how-mother-shot-her-3-kids-her-lover-51520http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/downs/index_1.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1984/06/12/the-mother-38/13b24fdf-7294-4623-ad2d-0665435ceed4/http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/11/09/diane-downs-latest-parole-hearing-is-next-month/https://web.archive.org/web/20081206005041/http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_120208_news_diane_downs_parole.2513dd69.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/female.D/d/downs-diane.htmhttp://www.dianedowns.com/https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-who-hid-convicted-child-killer-diane-downs-after-her-prison-escape-regrets-decision-i-shouldve-turned-her-in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

About two hours from Paris, the body of 23-year-old Sylviane Lesage was found in a pasture. The case fell into the hands of Constable Christian Jambert. He was considered an outstanding policeman and a dogged investigator for the National Gendarmerie. Constable Jambert began hearing stories of girls that had gone missing in and around Auxerre in the Department of Yonne, just up the road from Rouvray. But they weren’t just any girls. They were teenagers and students, children of the DDASS or Dahs. The missing girls were either foster children who were given up at birth or children who lived in a home for the disabled. They either had no immediate biological family, or their families could not care for them.Besides the school, the girls had one thing in common. Bus driver Emile Louis.Join Jen & Cam as they discuss The Missing Women of Yonne.P.S. Please excuse Jen's french pronunciations. A big thank you to our team:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenAlso, a HUGE shout out to Julian the Frenchman on youtube. He helped a heck of a lot.Sources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/752433788/?terms=Emile%20Louis%20Yonne&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/753122933/?terms=Emile%20Louis%20Yonne&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/469217621/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Yonne&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/496382773/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Yonne&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/260712037/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Auxerre&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/259470223/?terms=%22Emile%20Louis%22%20Auxerre&match=1https://www-radiofrance-fr.translate.goog/franceinter/podcasts/affaires-sensibles/emile-louis-les-disparues-de-l-yonne-5803245?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=schttps://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_Louishttps://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/louis-emile.htmhttps://www.francethisway.com/top10lists/frenchcriminals/emilelouis.phphttps://www.wikiwand.com/en/%C3%89mile_Louishttps://gettotext.com/emile-louis-the-butcher-of-yonne-disconcerting-interview-with-his-daughter-it-weighs-very-heavy/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is December 23, 1999, in Easley, South Carolina, located right outside Greenville. People were getting ready to celebrate the holidays by cooking, cleaning, and wrapping goodies for loved ones. One of those getting ready to welcome family for a celebration was 87-year-old Martha Browning. Martha was always a hard worker and started working at the local mill at 12 years old. Like most grandmothers, Martha loved her family and fed them until they burst. As Martha was prepping for company, her 34-year-old granddaughter Deanna Tinsley came to town a bit early to help her out, and others would be arriving throughout the day. Her home was a place of love and welcomed anyone that wanted to come by. As the two of them were taking a moment to relax before the hustle began again, a man walked into the home and sat down in a chair. The beginning of a real-life nightmare is about to start for these two ladies, but little did they know this was the last stop for a man responsible for the unthinkable. Join Jen and Cam on “Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss “The Stranger in my Home:Carolina Killer” LD by the fantastic Edward October from @octoberpodVHS All music is by our EP Nico @wetalkofdream Sources:https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/12/23/20-years-ago-dallen-bounds-killed-4-greenville-sc-victims-then-shot-himself/2673293001/https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bounds-dallen.htmhttps://dbpedia.org/page/Dallen_Boundshttps://skdb.fandom.com/wiki/BOUNDS_Dallen_Forresthttps://horrorhistory.net/2019/12/23/man-kills-ex-girlfriend-her-ex-husband-then-self/https://thecinemaholic.com/how-did-dallen-bounds-die-where-is-casandra-laster-now/https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4502292https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60525/?name=Dallen_Bounds&pcat=bmd_death&qh=00efb62f88105f3e8178f4774f82d546https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B091HLPNCD/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's episode is a Listener Request! Thanks to Christina Young for her request.Big thanks to Wondery and The Generation Why Podcast for sponsoring this episode Make sure you go listen to Justin and Aaron. They are amazing.Down the road from Costco, past the Hobby Lobby, and the Chick-fil-A. stood a home on Knob Hill Drive that was in stark contrast to its surroundings. It was filthy and run-down, with a stench that assaulted people before they even reached the front porch. Once you made it to the porch, visitors were welcomed with a black door covered with symbols of a skull, crossbones, and an inverted cross. A community watch area sign warned that police were not welcome. “Evil Will Triumph” was written in bold white capital letters.This was the home of Pazuzu Algarad. A self-proclaimed satanist who filed his teeth to sharp points and drank the blood of animals during the “dark moon.” He allowed—and even encouraged—people to engage in drug use, orgies, and murder, in his own home.He's also was responsible for the deaths of Joshua Frederick Wetzler and Tommy Dean Welch, along with being convicted for accessory after the fact for the death of Joseph Emmrick Chandler.Join Jen and Cam as they discuss The Gatekeeper of Hell: Pazuzu AlgaradPromo by OctoberpodVHS- Check out his Halloween Potluck episode now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aluYQB0t3bYA big thank you to our team:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://journalnow.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/an-evil-anniversary-the-pazuzu-algarad-case-broke-7-years-ago/collection_292ce4e8-2c4a-11ec-8ee9-4b12c64e7c9a.html#17https://allthatsinteresting.com/pazuzu-algaradhttps://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/who-is-suburban-satanist-pazuzu-algarad-and-what-is-he-known-forhttps://en.celebrity.tn/what-happened-to-pazuzus-mother/https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/creepy-human-remains-animal-sacrificing-take-a-look-inside-the-home-of-a-devil-worshiper/521-1ed95e6b-0dd6-4ca0-9e78-8a7ca0033f73https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07X3Y57J8/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_4https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/645993345/?terms=Pazuzu%20Algarad&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are headed to a small town named Woodacre which is located right outside of San Francisco, California. It is Marin County which is beautiful if you have never been there, truly postcard pretty. The town is a small community where the center of the action is a bar named The Paper Mill Saloon where the locals meet to catch up and unwind. Bartender Jennifer Villarin worked hard to make all the patrons welcome. It was August 2nd, 2000 and Jim had brought Jenny dinner and Jenny closed up the bar around 11 pm. The two made their way home. It was right around 5 am when the neighborhood heard gunshots ring out. The police were called to the residence and arrived on the scene to discover two people had been shot and killed. The studio apartment was located behind a house, meaning that the killer had to know that an apartment was located. Jim Gamble's body was on the ground next to the bed as if he got out of bed when he was shot. Jenny was in bed. Both had no clothes on. The only evidence that they found was 9 mm-caliber gunshot shells which they believe came from a semi-automatic pistol. Two were used for Jenny and four were used for Jim. The community was in shock as no one could imagine killing this much loved couple. Before all is said and done, there would be five victims and a bizarre tale of worship, fraud and murder. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Children of Thunder: Cult Killers.”Listener discretion is by our bestie @octoberpodVHSAll music is done by our other bestie and executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreamsPromo this week is by our friends at TSFU podcast. @https://tsfuthepodcast.comSources:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-nude-model-five-bodies-and-the-mormon-assassination-plot-attempt-732255.htmlhttp://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/11/news/mn-2726https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Justin-Helzer-hangs-himself-in-prison-4436354.phphttps://people.com/crime/helzer-brothers-stockbroker-turned-cult-killer-people-magazine-investigates/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guitarists-daughter-linked-to-plot/https://www.karisable.com/crhelzer.htmhttps://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/helzer-brothers.htmhttp://serialkillersink.net/skistore/glenn-helzer-children-of-thunder-cult-handwritten-letter-and-envelope-rare.html?set_language=en-UShttps://www.mercurynews.com/2010/01/22/justin-helzer-attempts-death-row-suicide-by-jamming-pens-in-his-eyes/https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/02/05/justin-helzer-back-in-prison-after-suicide-try/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On January 4th, 1997, two eight-year-old boys were playing in the parkwhen they came upon what they thought was a pile of clothing. When they realized it was a body, they ran to tell their parents, who immediatelycalled the police.After identifying the body as twenty-year-old Kim Wilson, police go to the Wilson residence to notify her family. When Detective Gomes arrived at the house, he saw cars in the driveway and all the Christmas lights twinkling, but no one answered the door. Walking around the house, he noticed the sliding door was ajar. Detective Gomes goes in prepared for a robbery; he is shocked to find the rest of Kim's family was killed in a brutal attack.Join Jen and Cam as we discuss the Bellevue Murders: The Wilson Family.Promo by Missing Persons PodcastA big thank you to our team:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970108&slug=2517720https://www.swordandscale.com/the-wilson-family-murders/https://groups.google.com/g/alt.true-crime/c/EcUronujstY?pli=1http://www.crimemagazine.com/gothic-murders-0https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/video/the-real-story-with-maria-elena-salinas-investigation-discovery/a-parents-nightmarehttps://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970116&slug=2519043https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/juvenile-life-without-parole/https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805503046/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201862385/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/503547838/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201861224/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740517637/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805533107/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740101339/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is a parent’s worst nightmare. The abduction of a child is more than traumatic but what if two of your children simply disappeared. That is precisely what happened on March 25, 1975, when 12-year-old Sheila Lyon and her little sister, 10-year-old Katherine departed from their home to walk ½ mile to the local shopping mall in Wheaton, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC. The girls made it to the mall but never made it home, they would never be seen again. This case has many twists and turns, but a dogged investigator and his team refused to give up. This is the story of The Lyon Sisters. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Little Girls Lost: The Lyon Sisters.” Listener discretion by the remarkably talented Edward October from @octoberpodVHS All music is by our fabulous executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams A big thanks to Mark Bowden and his book The Last Stone which did a great job telling the story of Katie and Sheila Lyon. Get it wherever you get your books or on Amazon as a Kindle or Audible edition. Sources: Bowden, Mark (April 2, 2019). The Last Stone. New York: Atlantic Monthly Press, an imprint of Grove/Atlantic. ISBN 9780802147301.https://www.amazon.com/Last-Stone-Masterpiece-Criminal-Interrogation/dp/0802147305‘Who Killed the Lyon Sisters” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13370308/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/04/01/feature/the-lyon-sisters-had-vanished-40-years-earlier-but-this-cold-case-team-didnt-give-up-on-them/https://wtop.com/local/2017/03/the-investigation-continues-lyon-sisters/http://wtop.com/local/2015/07/after-indictment-new-information-expected-in-lyon-sisters-disappearance/slide/1/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lyon-sisters-case-lloyd-lee-welch-pleads-guilty-to-1975-murders-of-2-maryland-girls/http://wset.com/news/local/man-pleads-guilty-to-murdering-lyon-sisters-in-1975https://web.archive.org/web/20071001001513/https://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/143626632.html?dids=143626632:143626632&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=May+23%2C+1975&author=By+Deborah+Sue+YaegerWashington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Washington+Post++(1974-Current+file)&edition=&startpage=B1&desc=Md.+Guardsmen+to+Join+Hunt+for+Lyon+Sistershttps://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigators-prepare-announcement-in-1975-missing-girls-case/2015/07/14/2ca2e68c-2a2f-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Situated in the middle of a wild and beautiful outdoor playground, the town ofSmithers, British Columbia, Canada, rests at the foot of the luminous Hudson BayMountain. The town is located halfway between Prince George and Prince Rupert alongthe 450-mile evergreen-lined Highway 16. Currently, most of the inhabitants of Smithersare of European descent. The First Nations people, notably the Wet’suwet’en, called this land home for thousands of years. Now there are only about 8% of the current population are First Nations people.And even though the entire area of the Bulkley Valley is untamed, wild, andpeacefully scenic, there is another, darker side of the valley. All along Highway 16 arebillboards with the following warning: Girls Don’t Hitchhike on the Highway of Tears.Killer on the Loose.Ramona Wilson was sixteen and a member of the Gitxsan nation. She was looking forward to going to a dance with several of her friends on a cool and calm evening in June of 1994, but she never made it to the dance. She simply vanished into the inky-blue twilight.Unfortunately, she's not the only one.Join Cam & Jen as we discuss Ramona Wilson, MMIWG, and the Highway of Tears.If you have any info about Ramona Wilson or any of the other 18 women mentioned in this episode, please call the British Columbia Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-8477.Promo from Murder in My FamilyThanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/ramona-lisa-wilsonhttps://zeph456.medium.com/who-killed-ramona-wilson-650858327d16https://thehueandcry.com/ramona-wilsonhttps://www.todayinbc.com/news/ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-twenty-five-years-but-still-no-closure/https://hazlitt.net/feature/death-and-afterlife-ramona-wilsonhttp://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/05/the-unsolved-murder-of-ramona-wilson.html?m=1https://www.interior-news.com/news/ramona-wilson-parade-marks-26th-anniversary-of-teens-disappearance/https://www.interior-news.com/news/ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-twenty-five-years-but-still-no-closure/https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/ramona-lisa-wilsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsZkus8Rsmghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTW67EMWHu4&t=931shttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141655028/ramona-lisa-wilsonhttps://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cc-afn/wilson-ramona-eng.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tearshttps://www.cftktv.com/27th-annual-ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-held-in-smithers-1.5470349https://about.rogers.com/news-ideas/working-together-to-support-safe-passage-along-the-highway-of-tears-for-indigenous-women-like-ramona-lisa-wilson/https://www.mmiwg-ffada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/20181128_MMIWG_Prince_George_B._Wilson_Statement_Vol_602_Public.pdfhttps://globalnews.ca/news/1447495/bc-crimestoppers-the-case-of-missing-16-year-old-ramona-wilson-of-smithers/https://www.tv-eh.com/2016/09/16/taken-highway-of-tears-ramona-wilson-and-alberta-williams/https://www.wcls.org/book-buzz-highway-of-tears/https://www.oas.org/en/iachr/reports/pdfs/indigenous-women-bc-canada-en.pdfhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508837116/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508837781/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508830047/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508833476/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is Jan. 9, 2002, in Oregon City, Oregon, 12-year-old Ashley Pond left her home to walk to the bus stop for Gardiner Middle School. Ashley was hurrying as she was going to be late and miss the bus stop located approximately 10 minutes from her home. Ashley was popular in school but what she loved most was dance. She was on the school’s dance team, The Fallen Angels. The team would be rehearsing that day for the big competition they had coming up. Since she was late, Ashley started running as she didn’t want to miss school. Little did her loved ones know, that she would never make it to the bus nor arrive at school. Ashley simply disappeared and she would not be the only one.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast entitled The Missing Girls: Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS Music and EP by @wetalkofdreams Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnb_6jvg3chttps://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Gaddis_and_Ashley_Pondhttps://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/503896-402986-potential-news-for-convicted-murderers-in-weaver-familyhttps://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/ward_f_weaver_born_1963_8641619https://thecinemaholic.com/ashley-pond-and-miranda-gaddis-murders-where-is-ward-weaver-now/https://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/2014/02/ward_weaver_iii_like_his_fathe.htmlhttp://thetribonline.com/news/story.php?story_id=26369http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/28/science/sci-weaver28https://www.cbsnews.com/news/step-by-step-in-oregon-killer-case/http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar/14/news/mn-32788http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2216310.stmhttp://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2014/06/prosecutors_to_present_case_ag.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110707161918/http://www.argusobserver.com/articles/2007/05/07/news/news03.txtO'Neal, Linda; Watson, Rick; Tennyson, Philip (2007). The Missing Girls: A Shocking True Story of Abduction and Murder. Macmillan. ISBN 978-0-312-94161-1. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Back in 2018, we covered this case with our first episode of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas. It is the most infamous unsolved murder in the state of Missouri. The case is open, and the child's identity is still unknown.It was February 1983 when two men entered the basement of 5635 Clemens Avenue, a derelict and vacant apartment building in northwest St. Louis, and stumble upon a grisly scene that would haunt the authorities and the community for years. The 40th year anniversary is upon us, and a St. Louis local is fighting to get St Louis’ Jane Doe, known as Precious Hope, not only her name but the justice she deserves. Listen now on this special Our True Crime Podcast episode as we speak to Edrar ‘Bird’ Sosa, director of the documentary “Our Previous Hope Revisited: St Louis’ Jane Doe,” which is premiering on Amazon Prime on September 15, 2022. IMDB info: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21662982/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

****Content Warning**** Sexual Assault****Cape Town, South Africa: In the early hours of May 27, 2017, Hannah Cornelius drove her friend Cheslin Marsh home after a night out. Before Cheslin could say goodbye, four men hijacked the car at knifepoint and kidnapped the two Stellenbosch University students. Cheslin was beaten with bricks and left to die. The gang members brutally assaulted Hannah and then murdered her in a senseless, brutal, and barbaric attack.The gang members would then go on a crime spree in Hannah's car until the police finally caught them.Please join Cam and Jen as we discuss Hell Ride: Hannah Cornelius. **Jen apologizes in advance if she pronounced anything incorrectly. She really tried!A HUGE thank you to Nicole from True Crime South Africa for helping us get the court documents.Thanks to the OTCP teamListener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:The foundation was set up in Hannah’s name by her mother, Anna.https://hcfoundation.org.za/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USfgKniVtWYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zUD-60cW-Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_PUy_jZNMYhttps://www.news24.com/News24/breaking-life-sentences-for-3-found-guilty-of-hannah-cornelius-rape-murder-20181112https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Hannah+Cornelius+murder%3A+All+we+know+after+kidnapped+student+is...-a0560179357https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/hannah-cornelius-death-killers-documentary-26623496https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUOHEN3cvoIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_PUy_jZNMYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KmB2MiU6ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3cEMDCbRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orBfyTErUCMhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194232581/hannah-corneliushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6w0Fl2OtIYhttps://www.news24.com/News24/breaking-life-sentences-for-3-found-guilty-of-hannah-cornelius-rape-murder-20181112 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Earlier this month, Cam and Jen sat down with John Palmer and discussed the tragic accident that took his wife Katie's life. ​April 21st, 2020, in Denison, Texas, situated on the border of Oklahoma. Thirty-eight-year-old Katie Palmer decided to take an early morning walk with her husband, John Palmer, hoping to see the nesting spot for a bird known as a killdeer.As the couple was returning home, they walked along Glenwood Drive at 7:45 A.M, on the left-hand side, facing the traffic, as pedestrians are supposed to do in Texas. Glenwood Drive also did not have dividing paint lines; it’s just an open road where drivers know to stay on their side. It’s wide, it’s flat, and there is nothing on it to hinder a person’s view. The sightline is over 600 feet, and the maximum speed limit is 30 miles per hour.​About 1/5th of a mile from their home, a Ford F-250 pickup truck crossed from the right-hand side of the road to the left-hand side of the road and struck Katie and John as they were walking. The vehicle struck Katie and Josh with such force that it knocked them out of their shoes. Katie landed 75 feet away, and John landed 70 feet away. For a little context, 75 feet is equivalent to the height of a six to seven-story building. Katie wouldn't survive.The driver of the truck, a neighbor named Cory Foster, has a driving record filled with DUIs, speeding, and reckless driving, yet he was able to walk away from this scot-free. Everything about Katie's case has been mishandled. Trust us, it will get your blood boiling. Thank you to John Palmer for coming to the show. We know the road to justice is exhausting, but we will stand beside you in your journey and fight.Please go to the following links for more information and updates on Katie's case.Justice For Katie Palmer Facebook page.https://www.facebook.com/groups/369021997579713Justice For Katie Palmer websitehttps://justiceforkatiepalmer.com/Justice For Katie Palmer on Twitter@for_palmerIf you would like to donate in Katie's name:The Katie Palmer Project: https://katiepalmerproject.com/ Hagerman National Wildlife Reserve: https://friendsofhagerman.com/Donate/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As little kids, we are scared of monsters and things that go bump in the night. We hear stories about big scary, hairy creatures that would get you if you weren’t being good. You had to always be aware of your surroundings and, of course, beware stranger danger. We grow up and imagine that bad guys are like the ones in the movies. But what if the monster was nothing like that, what if they were kind and helpful. What if they were your good friend? What if the monster was hiding in plain sight?Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Hiding in Plain Sight: Henry Wallace."Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic/Ep @wetalkofdreamsSources: https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/bad-henry-charlotte-serial-killer-profiled-in-true-crime-show/275-577104511https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8640728/https://www.the-sun.com/news/5322262/where-henry-louis-wallace-now/https://www.bustle.com/p/the-true-crime-doc-bad-henry-explores-a-terrifying-serial-killer-case-targeting-young-black-women-9845925http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1998-06-07/news/9806070222_1_prison-nurse-louis-wallace-killerhttp://www.crimemagazine.com/serial-killer-cops-ignored-henry-louis-wallace-murdershttp://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/07/24/taco-bell-strangler-detective-speaks-out-about-infamous-case-in-new-documentary-there-are-still-wounds.htmlhttps://abcnews.go.com/2020/families-victims-serial-killer-henry-wallace-remember-loved/story?id=84543063https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/henry-louise-wallace-victimshttps://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/wallace-henry-louis.htmhttps://pages.charlotte.edu/ccoston/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/08/Henry-Louis-Wallace-ccrime-library1.pdfhttps://www.newsobserver.com/entertainment/tv/warm-tv-blog/article261357452.htmlhttps://people.com/crime/serial-killer-henry-louis-wallace-case-explored-on-20-20/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices