Cold War Conversations Podcast

You are listening to part 2 of my chat with Joe who joined the USAF in 1981 and was trained to fly the A10 Warthog a single-seat, twin-engine jet aircraft designed to provide close air support to ground forces by attacking tanks, armoured vehicles, and other ground targets. Part 1 is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode305/ In 1985 Joe is sent to 92nd Tactical Fighter Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in the UK, just over 50 miles from where his father served in World War 2. His role was to fly the A10 over West Germany and attack Warsaw Pact ground forces should the Cold War turn hot. We hear about the perils of flying the A10 at only 100 feet in mist and rain, whilst navigating with a map on your knee in the days before GPS was available. Joe also recounts visiting the Inner German border and driving to his wartime target sectors to see what they looked like from the ground. He describes how they trained for landing on West German autobahns as well as their tactics against enemy aircraft. Joe also flew the Royal Air Force’s VTOL fighter, the Harrier, and tells of the challenge of managing the controls and his respect for the Royal Air Force. 0:00 Introduction and Joe Andrew's deployment to UK 1:35 Visiting the inner German border and discussion on potential kill zones 3:29 Practice landing on autobahns and durability of A-10's undercarriage 6:17 Low-level navigation and situational awareness in Europe 10:59 Practice bombing, missile firing, and liaisons with the army 15:00 Air to air defense, maneuvering training, and target acquisition 17:32 Managing information and plotting targets while flying 20:45 Tactics for air-to-air combat and likely survivability rate in conflict 27:44 Training for escape and evasion if shot down, and use of countermeasures 34:45 Joe Andrew's experiences with combat SAR alert and flying the Harrier 44:00 Extras and acknowledgements for the podcast's financial supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Visit the RAF Bentwaters Museum here https://www.bcwm.org.uk/ Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode306 The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Love history? Join Intohistory on this link https://intohistory.com/coldwarpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe’s father served in World War 2 in the USAF. His service inspired Joe to try and join the USAF or the Naval Air Force despite having no flying experience. It’s the aftermath of the Vietnam War so forces are being reduced, however with the arrival of a new President, Ronald Reagan, defence spending grows and provides Joe with an opportunity to start pilot training with the USAF. He eventually ends up flying the A10. The A-10 was first in service in 1976 and was designed to provide close air support to ground troops by attacking armoured vehicles, tanks, and other enemy ground forces. Joe describes what makes the A10 special as well as his training and initial deployment in the A10 in Alaska. You get a real pilot’s eye view of flying the plane including navigation techniques and the challenges of flying low level. 0:00 Introduction and background of Joe Andrew 6:41 Joe's completion of officer training school and becoming a second lieutenant 9:47 The decision of what to fly at the end of training 15:01 Description of the A 10 and its capabilities 28:19 First flight experience in the A-10 32:17 Joe's first operational station and flying experience in Alaska 37:56 Journey to Bentwaters and first impressions of the UK 41:40 Meeting and marrying future wife in the UK 44:13 Undergoing advisory training course for UK weather conditions 48:05 Wrap up and preview of next week's episode Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Part two is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode306/ where Joe is sent to 92nd Fighter Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in the UK, just over 50 miles from where his father served in World War 2. Visit the RAF Bentwaters Museum here https://www.bcwm.org.uk/ Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode305 Rick Shreve's F111 episode https://coldwarconversations.com/episode193/ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Love history? Join Intohistory on this link Cold War Conversations – Into History Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tom lived in western Poland in an area that had been part of Germany until the end of World War 2. He describes how his grandmother settled in this area and the strangeness of taking over formerly German houses and apartments. Tom’s grandfather on his mother’s side was a Communist activist who worked for the Polish security services which created some tension as Tom’s father dodged the draft into the Polish Army. Tom describes his childhood in some detail, highlighting the contrasts of life in Cold War Poland versus some of the Warsaw Pact countries such as how the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church managed to co-exist with the Communist government. He is 11 years old when the free trade union Solidarity is made illegal and martial law is declared by the Polish Communist authorities. Tom describes how life changes under martial law and the suppression of Solidarity demonstrations. We end with the poignant story of his Grandmother’s experiences as a forced labourer in Germany during World War 2. 0:00 Introduction and background of Tom's family history in Cold War Poland 9:06 Tom's family members and their roles during the Cold War 20:38 Tom's parents' professions and their impact on his upbringing 26:15 Living conditions in the 70s in Poland and Tom's school life experiences 41:56 The role of the Scouts movement and the state in shaping youth ideology 48:59 Declaration of martial law and its immediate impact 1:02:19 Witnessing solidarity demonstrations and restrictions on travel 1:11:39 Visit to Dresden and grandmother's experience as a forced laborer 1:22:00 Communicating with the locals in Dresden and Grandma's vivid recount 1:24:15 Podcast extras and thanking financial supporters 1:24:43 Closing remarks and teaser for next week's episode Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode304 The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Love history? Join Intohistory on this link Cold War Conversations – Into History Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On 1 July 1960, a United States RB-47H reconnaissance plane was shot down by the Soviet Air Defence Forces while performing signals intelligence in the Barents Sea, near the Kola Peninsula, off the Arctic coast of the Soviet Union. Four of the six crew members died. The shootdown occurred exactly two months after the far better-known U-2 shootdown involving Francis Gary Powers and added to the tensions created by that incident. Gary Power and the U2 incident https://coldwarconversations.com/episode23/ I speak with John Mollison, an aviation artist, writer, and award-winning filmmaker. Do check out his website at https://www.johnmollison.com/ John interviewed Captain "Bruce" Olmstead who was co-pilot of the RB47. As a result of his involvement in the incident, Olmstead received the POW medal in 1996 and Silver Star medals in 2004, as well as the Distinguished Flying Cross. His Silver Star Citation reads “For 208 days, Colonel Olmstead was interrogated and harassed at length on a continuous basis by numerous top Soviet Secret Police interrogating teams. Although greatly weakened physically by the lack of food, denial of sleep, and the mental rigors of constant interrogation, Colonel Olmstead steadfastly refused all attempts to give sensitive defense information or be exploited for propaganda purposes. By his gallantry and devotion to duty, Colonel Olmstead has reflected great credit upon himself and the United States Air Force.” Bruce died in October 2016. 0:00 Introduction and background of the RB47 incident 6:30 The shift from RB47 to U2 missions and importance of signals intelligence 12:00 Description of the RB47's engagement and defensive armament 17:00 Context of the times, the Gary Powers shoot down, and implications of SIOP 20:00 The tracking, interception, and attack on the RB 47 26:00 Communication between the Ravens and the cockpit, aftermath of the crash and capture 33:00 The American reaction to the loss of the RB 47 and negotiations with the Soviets 36:00 The duration of captivity, trial, and release of the crew 38:00 Meeting with President Kennedy and the zeitgeist of the times 40:00 Importance of the shoot down in Cold War history and other related incidents 43:00 Podcast extras, acknowledgements, and closing remarks Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode303 The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Love history? Join Intohistory https://intohistory.supercast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Honecker emerged as an ambitious political player and became the shadowy mastermind behind the construction of the Berlin Wall in 1961, a crucial moment in twentieth-century history. Author Nathan Morley brings to life the story of the longtime leader of the German Democratic Republic. Drawing from a wealth of untapped archival sources – and firsthand interviews with Honecker’s lawyers, journalists, and contemporary witnesses – Morley paints a vivid portrait of how an uneducated miner’s son from the Saarland rose to the highest ranks of the German Communist Party. Having survived a decade of brutality in Nazi prisons, and frequently on the verge of being relegated to obscurity, he managed to overthrow strongman Walter Ulbricht at the height of the Cold War and reigned supreme over the GDR between 1971-1989. However, by 1980, the Honecker honeymoon was on the wane as a decade of economic and social difficulties blighted the GDR. Then, as tumultuous changes swept through the Soviet bloc, everything in and around him collapsed in 1989. His health, his certainties, his ideology, his apparatus of power, and his beloved SED party. 0:00 Introduction and discussion on the life of Eric Honecker 5:42 Overview of Honecker's early life and family background 13:49 Honecker's return to Germany and the state of the country 19:37 Honecker's post-war life and rise in East German politics 28:01 Honecker's struggle with the exodus of East Germany's population 34:53 Operation Rose: The division of Berlin 44:10 Public perception of Honecker in East Germany 46:05 Intensifying economic struggles in East Germany and Poland 55:26 Honecker's refusal to follow Gorbachev's reforms and health decline 1:01:19 Honecker's extradition and trial in Berlin 1:03:17 Honecker's release and final years in Chile 1:05:29 Honecker's funeral and tributes received 1:06:51 Mention of the book "The Man Who built the Berlin Wall" by Nathan Moreley and podcast extras 1:07:22 Acknowledgement of podcast's financial supporters and closing remarks Buy the book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781399088824 The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Book giveaway entry info here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/ Episodes mentioned: History of East Germany https://coldwarconversations.com/episode284/ Doping of East German athletes https://coldwarconversations.com/episode264/ Polish strikes in 1980 https://coldwarconversations.com/episode152/ Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode302/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Radio GDR If you are interested in East Germany we can highly recommend our friends over at Radio GDR. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tom Sullivan was a tank platoon commander in Korea in the early 1980s responsible for six tanks and their crew We hear why he joined the US Army, his training, and his first impressions of Korea in the Winter of 1982. He is assigned to Second Platoon, C Company, 1-72 Armor under the toughest Company Commander in the Brigade who had very high standards, no humour, and was a rigid disciplinarian with an uncompromising approach. Tom shares details of his fellow soldiers, including Vietnam veterans, the living conditions He explains the challenges of operating armour where the winter weather is brutal, and the majority of the terrain is hills, mountains, rice paddies, and dirt roads We discuss the threat the North Koreans posed and the scarce hope that reinforcements would arrive in sufficient time should the North Koreans decide to attack. 0:00 Introduction and background of Tom Sullivan 4:56 Training to become an armored officer and the role of international instructors 14:12 Arrival in Korea, transfer to Camp Casey and introduction to the unit 20:35 Initial challenges and observations in Korea 27:57 Exercise with Korean army units: Team Spirit and deployment experience 32:00 Living conditions and navigating the difficult Korean terrain 39:00 Proximity to the DMZ and observing cross border fire and incursions 43:38 Using the M48 tank in Korea and facing the North Korean armored threat 51:08 Being within North Korean artillery range and potential infiltration threats 57:22 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and podcast extras Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode301/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In February 1983 US soldier Manuel Alzager was sent to a mysterious posting to the British Zone in the north of West Germany a long way from the main US forces in southern Germany. After a lengthy journey, he is picked up by a West German private and eventually arrives at the 81st USAFAD (US Army Field Artillery Detachment), where his mission is to guard, assemble, and deliver low-yield nuclear artillery rounds to the 7th West German Army Artillery Regiment. He describes how the rounds were assembled as well as their orders in the event of unauthorised intruders. Being stationed in the British Zone of West Germany Manuel also tells us about the love/hate relationship with the Brits where they would fight, make up, drink, and fight again. 0:00 Introduction and overview of the episode 0:55 Manuel Altsaga's experience and assignment in West Germany 13:25 Mission and protocol related to nuclear artillery rounds 21:10 Public awareness and potential spy encounters 24:29 Guard duty and response plan for potential attacks 30:06 Social interactions and bonding with British soldiers 32:14 Manuel's departure from Germany and reflection on his service 33:38 Manuel's assignment at Fort Bragg and decision not to re-enlist 37:00 Transition to civilian life: College and California National Guard 39:17 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and promotion of Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Manuel's other episodes are here: A 17-year-old in the Cold War US Army https://coldwarconversations.com/episode57/ Experiences of the Cold War Reforger 82 NATO Exercise https://coldwarconversations.com/episode100/ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode300/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Now have you ever heard of Dickey Chapelle? No, I hadn’t either, but I’m delighted to bring you the unknown story of this trailblazing female war correspondent. Dickey’s career started in World War 2 where she reported from some of the Pacific wars’ toughest battlefields of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. During the Cold War, she reported from Hungary during the 1956 Uprising and was held in the infamous Fő Prison and interrogated by the Hungarian security forces. Dickey went on to report from the struggle of the Algerian Liberation Front covering their campaign against French colonial rule as well as becoming the first Western female reporter to march with Castro’s Cuban Revolutionary Army. She was the first woman to be given permission to para drop with the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions' first correspondent to live with anti-communist guerrilla forces in the Mekong Delta. Later, she would become the first female reporter to go on patrol with the First and Third Battalions of the Seventh Marines Regiment which were among the initial US combat troops sent to Vietnam. 0:00 Introduction to the episode and the story of Dickie Chapelle 1:22 Interview with author Larissa Reinhardt on Dickie Chapelle's journalism career 12:46 Chapelle's experiences in the Hungarian revolution and subsequent arrest 19:57 Discussion on Chapelle's post-traumatic stress disorder and reporting style 21:13 Chapelle's determination to report on the Algerian war of independence 25:07 Difficulty of getting such stories published in the US 30:02 Chapelle's time in Cuba and her unique reporting strategies 38:54 Discussion on the Bay of Pigs incident and CIA's control of information 47:52 Early assessment of the Vietnam War by Chapelle 52:38 Chapelle's fame in the US and her vocal opposition to the treatment of South Vietnamese 56:11 Chapelle's death and its impact on the journalism world 57:54 Ian Sanders wraps up the conversation and promotes Larissa's book 58:20 Thanks to the financial supporters of the podcast Buy the book here and support the podcast https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781250276575 Book giveaway entry info here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode299/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I speak with author Ethan Scheiner whose book “Freedom to Win” describes the gripping story of a group of small-town young men who would lead their underdog hockey team from Czechoslovakia against the Soviet Union, the juggernaut in their sport. In 1968 Czechoslovakia experienced the Prague Spring, an attempt to moderate and soften communism. However, a sudden invasion by 500,000 Warsaw Pact soldiers halts the reforms. We hear the inspiring story of how the young players of the national hockey team battle the Soviets on the ice to keep their people’s quest for freedom alive and forge a way to fight back against the authoritarian forces that sought to crush them. 0:00 Introduction and background on the episode's guest 2:51 Background on the Holik family and their struggle under the Nazi occupation 9:37 The unique situation of army teams in Czechoslovakia and the Holik brothers' involvement 15:50 Yaroslav Holik: A superhero in Czechoslovakia 23:23 The heated 1967 World Championships match between Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union 28:48 The impact of the Prague Spring on Czechoslovakia's performance in ice hockey 34:21 The Prague Spring and the World Ice Hockey Championships 40:37 The aftermath of Dubcek's negotiations with the Soviets 49:35 The 1969 World Ice Hockey Championships 1:08:08 The consequences for the hockey players Buy the book here and support the podcast https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781639363513 Book giveaway entry info here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode298/ Prague Spring and Cold War Czechoslovakia episodes https://coldwarconversations.com/tag/czechoslovakia/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The BBC Wartime Broadcasting Service (WTBS) is a little-known piece of Cold War history that would have been for many the last human voice they heard after a nuclear attack on the UK. Iain started work for the BBC in 1988 and due to the pressure on training space, was trained in the nuclear bunker at BBC Wood Norton. After training he went to Broadcasting House in London where he first encountered some of the technical infrastructure the WTBS would use. Iain did a spell in the main control room and recalls the red phone which was the link from Whitehall to initiate the BBC War Book. Over time Iain has collected knowledge on all aspects of the WTBS and he shares details of where it would have been broadcast from, what would have been heard, and who, in the event of an attack, would have descended into the bunkers to broadcast it. Iain also delivers a talk on the subject. There are more details on this link. https://speakernet.co.uk/talk/4000/the-bbc-the-bomb-cold-war-broadcasting-from-the-bunkers Hack Green Nuclear bunker that has a preserved BBC studio (as seen in our episode cover) https://www.hackgreen.co.uk/ 0:00 Introduction to the episode and the BBC wartime broadcasting service 2:05 Introduction of the guest, Ian Benson 3:04 Ian's fascination with the WTS and his experiences at the BBC 8:27 The evolution of the WTS with the onset of the Cold War 13:12 The change in broadcasting plans with the advent of transistor radios 15:33 The BBC's emergency broadcasting facility and its myths 20:01 Changes in television and radio broadcasts during emergencies 25:26 Launch and activation of the Wartime Broadcasting Service (WTBS) 30:33 The dilemma of duty versus family for BBC staff during emergencies 35:59 Regular exercises and resistance from BBC staff towards emergency broadcasting 44:36 Conclusion and wrap-up of the episode Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra videos and photos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode297/ Previous UK Civil Defence episodes How Cold War Britain Prepared for Nuclear War https://coldwarconversations.com/episode285/ Cold War leaflets and documents https://coldwarconversations.com/episode112/ Assigned to a government bunker https://coldwarconversations.com/episode107/ Visit to a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post and interview with the Chief Observer who served in the post https://coldwarconversations.com/episode30/ Alistair McCann has preserved a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post as a museum in Northern Ireland. https://coldwarconversations.com/episode11/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jonny Whitlam has been a Berlin tour guide since 2010, and since then he’s been showing travellers from across the world the fascinating history of Berlin. We met via social media after I noticed his great videos describing well-known and lesser know 20th-century historical locations in Berlin. We discussed doing an episode to help you see Cold War Berlin sites without needing a tour guide and this episode is the result. However, if you would like a personal tour check out Jonny’s tours on this link. Book your Berlin private tour experience now (whitlams-berlin-tours.com) Jonny is keen to share Berlin’s amazing history with everyone and he has put together The Ultimate Guide to Cold War Berlin which includes an amazing Google map of Cold War sites in Berlin. Despite the name, this list is not exhaustive and we’d welcome suggestions for anything you think we have missed! 0:00 Introduction and guest introduction: Johnny Whitlam 2:21 Interview with Johnny Whitlam: His experience as a tour guide and significant Cold War sites in Berlin 15:49 Must-see locations in Central Berlin according to Johnny Whitlam 27:30 Treptower Park: The Soviet Cemetery in Berlin 31:50 Ian Sanders shares a story about two brothers rescuing their sibling from East Berlin 42:35 Touring Potsdam and Berlin: 47:06 Waldsiedlung : GDR Leaders Housing Estate 57:04 Recommended Cold War Museums: Including Allied Museum and DDR Museum 1:02:02 Erich Mielke's office at the Stasi Museum Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve Cold War history. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra episode information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode296/ Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/store/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

South Africa in the 1980s is a brutal, racist Apartheid regime. Those who oppose it risk their lives. Apartheid was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa from 1948 to the early 1990s Sue Dobson is moving easily through the echelons of the racist government in her work as a journalist, whilst concealing her espionage and military training in the Soviet Union, and her intelligence work for the banned African National Congress. She interviewed Apartheid ministers and had a honey trap affair with a police chief involved with the Namibian independence process. However, Sue's cover is blown leading to her desperate flight across Southern Africa with the Apartheid security police snapping at her heels. We hear in detail about her tense three day car journey to the Soviet Embassy in Botswana and how her KGB training saved her life… 0:00 Introduction and Sue Dobson's Espionage Journey 2:22 Sue's Role in the South African Bureau of Information and Namibia's Independence 8:21 Sue's Encounter with Key Information Source and Communication with ANC 13:55 Sue's Meeting with Apartheid Era Figures and Confrontation with Pik Botha 18:44 Sue's Moral Dilemma and Justification for Her Actions 20:37 Global Attention on South Africa and Tactics Used in Namibia 22:37 Sue's Job Offer and Realization of a Potential Exposure 24:15 Sue's Escape Plan and Journey through Namibia 32:58 Sue's Close Encounter with Surveillance and Journey to Botswana 40:12 Sue's Refuge in the Russian Compound and Escape to Europe 44:27 Sue's New Life in the UK and Fears of Parcel Bombs and Poisonings 47:22 Sue's Decision to Share Her Story Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Listeners can find details of our book giveaway here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/ Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode295/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

South Africa in the 1980s is a brutal, racist regime. Those who oppose it risk their lives. Sue Dobson, was a young white South African woman who was also a spy for the banned African National Congress. The ANC was a liberation movement known for its opposition to apartheid In the 1980s she built a legend, a fake persona where she pretends to conform, moving easily through the echelons of the racist government in her work as a journalist, whilst concealing her espionage and military training in the Soviet Union, and her intelligence work. We begin with her childhood and what life was like under apartheid. Sue then describes her journey to joining the African National Congress, her recruitment into the armed wing, and her training in the Soviet Union. 0:00 Introduction and brief history of apartheid 0:31 Sue Dobson: Life as a spy for the ANC 8:35 Geopolitical outlook of South Africa during the Cold War 15:40 Sue Dobson's initial contact with the ANC and her training 24:38 Living a lie permanently and returning to London 27:43 First impressions of the Soviet Union 32:57 Building strong bonds with the training team 39:55 Shocking news upon return to South Africa and becoming a spy 44:31 End of part one and preview for next week Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Buy the book here and support Cold War Conversations Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Enter our book giveaway here https://coldwarconversations.com/giveaway/ Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode294/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In November of 1982, at the height of the Cold War, Samantha Smith, a 10-year-old girl from Manchester, Maine, wrote to the Soviet leader Yuri Andropov and asked him if he was going to wage a nuclear war against the U.S. When an unprecedented response from Andropov arrived, and Samantha received an invitation to visit the USSR, she and her family embarked on a journey that brought the two warring nations closer together. We speak with author Lena Nelson who was born in the Soviet Union and has spent the past 15 years researching and documenting the story of Samantha Smith and creating an archive at https://www.samanthasmith.info/. Lena reveals how Samantha Smith's journey in the summer of 1983 helped melt the hearts of the Soviets and thaw the ice of the Cold War. We talk about the interviews she conducted in both the US and Russia with key players in the events of those days and tell the story of this unprecedented moment in history. 0:00 Introduction and interview with author Lena Nelson about Samantha Smith 1:35 Sponsor: Support for Cold War Conversations 5:24 Samantha Smith's motivation to write to Yuri Andropov and her history of letter writing 14:54 Lena's impressions of American life from Samantha Smith's documentary 20:49 Samantha Smith's preparation for her trip to the Soviet Union 25:41 Samantha Smith's arrival in the Soviet Union and the initial reactions 33:54 Natasha's accidental trip to Artek and meeting Samantha Smith 43:25 The incident over the colour of hot dogs in the Artek cafeteria and Samantha's image as an ideal American representative 48:37 Samantha's post-trip experience and school life 57:04 Circumstances of Samantha's tragic death and Lina Nelson's memory of hearing the news in the Soviet Union 1:05:16 Lina's collaboration with Jane and the evolution of her project 1:07:19 Podcast conclusion, invitation to Facebook discussion group and closing remarks by Ian Sanders Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Lena’s book America's Youngest Ambassador: The Cold War Story of Samantha Smith's Lasting Message of Peace is available via this link https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781684750207 Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode293/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Communist Poland had universal conscription and the armed forces were huge by contemporary standards. The Polish People’s Army, Navy, and Airforce had just over 400,000 troops for most of the 1980s in a country of 36 million. Tom was a conscript in Polish People's Army from 1987-89. He served as a radio operator in Legnica for the rocket artillery. His service was at an interesting time when the communist dominance ended as Poland began to embrace democracy in its first free elections before World War 2. Tom shares details of his conscription process, selection, and initial training. We also hear of training exercises, attempts at political indoctrination, and his role if the Cold War had ever turned hot. I’m very keen to expand our library of Warsaw Pact voices, so if you know of any other English speakers who served in the Warsaw Pact Forces during the Cold War do let me know. 0:00 Introduction and background of Polish military conscription 5:18 Issuance of army book and process for students aspiring for higher education 10:59 Political education at the university and military radio training 19:43 Tom's role as a mobile radio operator and experience in an armored truck 27:15 Fear of being ordered to stop demonstrations and participating in Warsaw Pact exercises 35:28 Interactions with the Russian military and instructions if captured by NATO forces 40:31 Living conditions and military structure in Legnica 45:28 Perception of the West as a threat and the Army's transition after the Russian withdrawal 49:37 Reflecting on time in the Polish People's Army and pretending to work 51:27 Episode extras and thanks to financial supporters 51:58 Closing remarks by Ian Sanders Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode292/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s 1966 in Berlin and the city has now been divided for 5 years by an almost impenetrable wall erected by the communist German Democratic Republic. Together with his friends, West German student Volker Heinz joins a group looking for ways to help would-be fugitives escape from East to West. Their search ends at Checkpoint Charlie, the most heavily secured border crossing of the Berlin Wall. By hiding the fugitives in the trunk of a diplomat's car, Volker Heinz helps East German citizens flee to the West. However, the Stasi picks up his trail, and Volker is arrested and interrogated. We hear in detail about his time in prison, including the interrogations and fellow cellmates. Following secret negotiations and a show trial where he is sentenced to 12 years imprisonment, Heinz is eventually swapped for two Soviet spies. In 2001 Heinz initiated the German-British foundation Temple Gift dedicated to the reconciliation of former foes Britain and Germany. In 2012 he was awarded the Federal Order of Merit in recognition of his courage. 0:00 Introduction and Volker Heinz's story 5:19 Volker's involvement in helping East German citizens escape 20:01 Reflections on the experience and diplomatic immunity 30:25 Volker's arrest, interrogation, and time in prison 57:12 Meeting Wolfgang Vogel and trial experiences 1:02:23 Volker's prison experiences and Stasi's recruitment attempts 1:05:54 Volker's release and return to West Germany 1:09:32 Volker's post-prison life and discovery of Stasi's tracking 1:14:21 Volker's book and its contribution to Cold War understanding 1:14:41 Sponsor: Amberley Publishing 1:15:11 Closing remarks and podcast's Facebook discussion group information Buy the book here and support CWC https://amzn.to/42V7FUK Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode291/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Colonel Terry Chester’s flying career spanned some 42 years, and 10,000 flying hours. He joined the RCAF in Sept 1964 and in 1968 was awarded Navigator Wings. Terry flew for 3,000 hrs on the Argus Maritime patrol aircraft where he spent a good portion of his RCAF career hunting for Soviet Submarines in both the Pacific and Atlantic areas of operation. He was instrumental in the design criteria for sub-hunting capability when Canada procured the new Aurora, for anti-submarine hunting in the early 1980s. Terry reveals sub-hunting tactics as well as details of Canadian participation in NATO exercises. Among other stories, he describes how he accidentally attacked a US nuclear submarine, the perils of landing in Gibraltar, and Soviet sub-incursions into Canadian waters. He also recalls airborne meetings with Soviet aircraft and a trip in the British nuclear submarine HMS Churchill. 0:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations with Colonel Terry Chester 2:24 Overview of Chester's experiences in Anti-Submarine Warfare and the Soviet Navy 5:05 Accounts of accidental attacks on US nuclear submarines 13:21 Encounters with Soviet aircraft and monitoring of Soviet submarines 20:34 The Gibraltar Base, Spanish tensions, and life aboard HMS Churchill 26:28 Protocols and preparations for potential nuclear warfare 28:14 Soviet submarine incursions in Canadian waters and international cooperation 32:19 End of the Cold War: experiences and concerns 33:40 Post-Cold War era and the Western Alliance's reduced defense spending 34:21 Reflections on serving in the Cold War and camaraderie during service 35:17 Sponsor: Listener Support and invitation to the Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Episode 1 of our interview with Terry is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode54/ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode290/ Do take a look at Vintage Wings a collection of historically significant aircraft that Terry has worked on as well as the Royal Canadian Airforce Association of which Terry was a National President. Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The second part of Svetlana’s story starts shortly after her arrival in West Germany with her husband Oleg who is the Chief Editor of the Russian Service of Radio Liberty a CIA-financed station beaming Western propaganda into the Soviet Union. Listen to the previous episode here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode288/ To Svetlana’s horror, Oleg reveals that he has been working for the KGB for 14 years. Svetlana is now trapped. She is in a quandary. Should she betray the man she loves and risk the wrath of the KGB or should she stay loyal to her husband? Loyalty wins out and she is invited by the Americans to teach Russian to intelligence officers and later becomes assistant to the commander at the US Army Intelligence Institute in Munich. However, in 1986 Oleg disappears and leaves Svetlana on her own in West Germany. At a press conference in Moscow, he reveals his espionage and suspicion falls on Svetlana… 0:00 Introduction and background of Svetlana's story 5:34 Discussion about Oleg's recruitment into the KGB and his role as a spy 15:18 Svetlana's job with the Americans and the impact on their relationship 24:06 Lie detector test and its implications for Oleg 31:02 The pressures of leading a double life and Oleg's subsequent disappearance 40:50 Svetlana's actions and the aftermath of Oleg's disappearance 46:58 Oleg's return to Munich, American secret investigations, and the disagreement with Germans 55:23 Oleg's encounters with Vladimir Putin and his subsequent help 58:47 Oleg's arrest, trial, and prison sentence 1:03:29 Oleg's life post-prison and his encounters with the FBI and family in the United States 1:07:34 Transition to life in Moscow and political involvement with "John Wood" 1:08:04 Episode extras and thanking financial supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extras including videos and photos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode289/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Svetlana came from a dissident Jewish family opposed to Soviet rule in Latvia. Her parents survived World War 2, but during the Stalin era two members of her family were held in the Gulags. The family never resigned themselves to Latvia's occupation by the Soviet Union in 1940. It was almost impossible to legally leave the Soviet Union, however, in 1971 the first opportunities for "Jewish" emigration appeared, and Svetlana, then aged 12 and her family left legally. At the age of 16, she is staying with her Uncle in London when she comes across Bush House, the home of the BBC Russian Service. Svetlana manages to get a job there and begins to get promoted. She meets Georgi Markov who is assassinated by Bulgarian Security Services on Waterloo Bridge in London and later she is introduced to Oleg, the Chief Editor of the Russian Service of Radio Liberty, a CIA-financed station beaming Western propaganda into the Soviet Union. This meeting has a profound effect on her life… 0:00 Introduction and Svetlana's Background 7:23 Svetlana's Experiences during the Stalin Era and Attempted Hijack 14:12 Svetlana's Immigration and Figure Skating Career 17:04 Svetlana's Arrival in Vienna and First Impressions of Western Lifestyle 23:51 Svetlana's Experience at BBC and Life in London and Israel 31:42 Encounter with Georgi Markov and Introduction to Oleg 39:43 Oleg's Escape from Soviet Union and Journey to Libya 44:32 Oleg's Role in Radio Liberty 46:57 Svetlana's Move to Germany and Discovery of Oleg's KGB Affiliation 49:21 Preview of Next Episode and Closing Remarks 2:00 Sponsor Message and Testimonial from a Listener Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Details and extra video content on this link https://coldwarconversations.com/episode288/ St Petersburg (Leningrad) aircraft hijack episode https://coldwarconversations.com/episode258/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We continue Steffen’s story where he tells of serving in three armies – firstly, the NVA, secondly the East German Army between the first free elections and unification, and finally the unified Bundeswehr. We start the episode in the Autumn of 1989 where demonstrations are growing against the government in nearby Leipzig and Steffen’s unit is on high alert and confined to barracks. It is clear East Germany is on the cusp of change however, what will be the impact on Steffen and his comrades? Steffen describes these tense days when rumours abounded of military action against the demonstrators, as well as how he heard about the fall of Honecker and the opening of the border. We also hear about his experiences as the NVA transitions after the first free elections in East Germany and momentum builds for reunification. Steffen accepts a place in the new unified German army and we hear about the day command is handed over to the Bundeswehr and how he has to learn a different way of thinking, such as the new doctrine of personal responsibility. 0:00 Introduction and Steffen's account of tension in East Germany 2:26 Steffen's experiences during high alert and rumors of military action 9:41 Steffen's account of the news about Honecker's departure and post-fall experiences 13:29 Steffen's thoughts on a better GDR and first crossing into the West 18:32 Changes in public sentiment during weekly demonstrations and the decline of grassroots groups 24:15 Reunification possibilities and its effect on the NVA 29:11 Steffen's encounter with Bundeswehr troops and changes post-reunification 34:03 Steffen's transition from the East German uniform to the Bundeswehr uniform 43:57 Transformation in the relationship between soldiers and commanders post-reunification 46:51 Impact of reunification on Steffen's parents' jobs and his own career path 54:31 Steffen's comparison between NVA and Bunderswehr 55:46 Sponsor: Reminder about the Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Photos and extra video content on this link https://coldwarconversations.com/episode287/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steffen was born in Karl Marx Stadt and was conscripted into the NVA (East German Army) in 1988. When he left school he started an apprenticeship in electronics learning how to build radio receivers at REMA, a then-famous producer of HiFi equipment. Steffen is called up at 18 for his 18 months of service and he talks of the conscription process and incentives offered to him to serve for a longer period. Steffen is posted to a unit in Leipzig that was responsible for telephone lines from the NVA Headquarters for the area south of Berlin. He describes the training he took and the role he carried out including installing phones for NATO Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty inspectors. In the summer of 1989 many citizens of East Germany flee the country via the now semi-open Hungarian border and Steffen describes heightened tension within the Army. Don’t miss next week’s episode where Steffen describes his transfer into the Bundeswehr, the West German Army. 0:00 Introduction and guest presentation 2:36 Steffen's childhood and school life in East Germany 15:21 Steffen's conscription into the East German army and training experiences 25:37 Steffen's comrades and checks conducted on him before his role 29:38 Steffen's experience with possible Stasi checks 32:34 Steffen's daily duties in the East German army and infrastructure of the East German phone system 37:14 Steffen's mission involving a secret code word and awareness of the Allied military liaison missions 43:16 Access to Western media while in the East German army 47:49 Lead up to Steffen's job on October 7th, 1989 and preview of next week's episode 48:34 Sponsor: Encouragement for listeners to donate and join the Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve these first hand accounts. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode extra inc videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode286/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

During the Cold War, the awesome power of nuclear weapons and its deadly fallout meant that every town, village and home in Britain fell under the nuclear shadow, and the threat of annihilation coloured every aspect of ordinary life. I chat with author and fellow Cold War podcaster Julie McDowall about her new book Attack Warning Red!: How Britain Prepared for Nuclear War. We discuss how families were encouraged to construct makeshift shelters with cardboard, plastic sheets and sandbags, as well as how vicars and pub landlords learnt how to sound hand-wound sirens, offering four minutes to scramble to safety. and the thousands who volunteered to give nuclear first aid, often consisting of breakfast tea, herbal remedies, and advice on how to die without contaminating others. It's a fascinating, haunting and darkly humorous look at the UK government’s attempts to prepare the UK population for nuclear war while bunkers were readied for the officials and experts who, in theory, would ensure life continued after Armageddon. Buy the book & support CWC https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9781847926210 0:00 Introduction and story of a village landlord's plan for nuclear warning 4:08 The 4-minute nuclear warning system in the UK 14:22 Role of the Women's Royal Volunteer Service in the Cold War 20:03 Rise of organizations like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament 27:05 The Python plan for government survival in a nuclear attack 33:07 Visiting former Cold War government bunkers in the UK 37:04 The haunting TV version of Protect and Survive 51:15 The selection process for government bunker inhabitants 56:09 The importance of Threads in understanding nuclear war 1:10:54 Introduction to Julie McDowell's book 'Attack Warning Red' Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to continue to preserve these first hand accounts. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Previous UK Civil Defence episodes Cold War leaflets and documents https://coldwarconversations.com/episode112/ Assigned to a government bunker https://coldwarconversations.com/episode107/ Visit to a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post and interview with the Chief Observer who served in the post https://coldwarconversations.com/episode30/ Alistair McCann has preserved a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post as a museum in Northern Ireland. https://coldwarconversations.com/episode11/ Book giveaway info and extra videos https://coldwarconversations.com/episode285/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1990, a country disappeared. When the Iron Curtain fell, East Germany simply ceased to be. For over forty years, from the ruin of the Second World War to the cusp of a new millennium, the GDR presented a radically different German identity to anything that had come before, and anything that exists today. Socialist solidarity, secret police, central planning, barbed wire: this was a Germany forged on the fault lines of ideology and geopolitics. I talk with acclaimed historian Katja Hoyer Whose new book Beyond the Wall: East Germany, 1949-1990 offers a kaleidoscopic new vision of this vanished country. Beginning with the bitter experience of German Marxists exiled by Hitler, to the creaking foundations of socialism in the mid-1980s, we discuss that amid oppression and frequent hardship, East Germany was yet home to a rich political, social, and cultural landscape, a place far more dynamic than the Cold War caricature often painted in the West. Powerfully told, and drawing on a vast array of never-before-seen interviews, letters, and records, this is the definitive history of the other Germany, the one beyond the Wall. 0:00 Introduction to the episode and Katya Hoya 2:37 Katya Hoya's approach to researching and writing about East Germany 7:35 Arrival of Gruppe Ulbricht in Soviet occupied zone of Germany 15:19 Public sentiment towards the formation of East Germany 21:24 The 1953 uprising in East Germany 24:19 The economic disparity between East and West Germany 33:10 Evidence of Honecker's collaboration with Nazi authorities 45:17 Car ownership in East Germany: perceptions and realities 1:00:14 The unique relationship between Helmut Kohl and Honecker 1:10:16 The impact of reunification on East Germany's economy and workforce 1:21:43 Ending notes, book promotion, and thanks to supporters UK listeners can support CWC by buying the book here https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1549/9780241553787 US listeners can support CWC by buying the book here https://bookshop.org/a/92195/9781541602571 The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Details and extra video content on this link https://coldwarconversations.com/episode284/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Richard was 6 years old when he was uprooted from a school in the United States to a Soviet school 700 miles East of Moscow. In 1988 the Soviet Union was opening up following Michael Gorbachev’s policy of Perestroika and American firms began looking at the possibility of trading with the Soviet Union. It was politically and economically sensitive and his family was chosen to be sent to the USSR to open a factory in the industrial town of Nizhnekamsk in Tartarstan. They lived in a special apartment building designated for foreigners and Richard attended the local school. Being thrown in the deep end of a Soviet school was a shock to him and he had to adapt fast, not least by learning Russian. He describes his school experiences and the stark contrasts with his previous life. Despite the difference, he found being six years old in the Soviet Union in all, rather fun. There was a Lunar Park for us to go on rides, war-themed toys like tanks and soldiers even at school, and all sorts of mischief were had. Life in Nizhnekamsk was hard on his mother who had to stay at home a lot and found the whole experience painfully boring. 0:00 Introduction and Richard's move to the Soviet Union 5:32 Life and impressions of Nizhnekamsk, the Soviet industrial city 11:57 Schooling and social experiences in the Soviet Union 24:22 Sponsor break 24:33 Dealing with school dynamics and ideological content in subjects 31:25 Restrictions and mischief in the Soviet Union 35:00 Family struggles and lifestyle in the Soviet Union 41:10 Fond memories and reasons for leaving the Soviet Union 44:41 Reconnecting with old schoolmates and appreciation of Soviet architecture 48:07 Acknowledgment of financial supporters and invitation to donate 49:03 Closing remarks and promotion of Cold War Conversations store Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation, you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Photos and extra content here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode283/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Brian Regal entered the US Army in 1977 and served on the M60A1 tank initially as a driver. The M60A1 was America's primary main battle tank during the Cold War, with initial deployment in 1960 and combat service through to 1991. After tank school, Brian was sent to West Germany where he was assigned to the 3/35 Armor in the Bamberg Garrison as part of the 1st Armored Division US Army, where the 3/35 was tasked to fight a Warsaw Pact attack across the Czechoslovak and East German borders. Brian was also his company’s nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist. He describes in detail his training, how patrols were conducted along the borders, an incident with a Soviet Military Liaison mission car, the war games amongst the West German civilians, as well as practice alerts. It’s a great chat and Brian is frank about his role and the scant expectations for survival if war did come. He is now Dr. Brian Regal, Professor for the History of Science, Technology, and Medicine at Kean University, New Jersey web page: https://sites.google.com/a/kean.edu/brian-regal-phd/ 0:00 Introduction and Brian Regal's initial days in the US Army 1:53 Request for donations to support the podcast 7:00 Brian's decision to join the Army and training experiences 23:41 Arrival at the first duty station in Bamburg Garrison, Bavaria 28:57 Introduction to M60A1 tank and its features 37:56 NBC training and nuclear chemical defense 52:54 Practice alerts and close calls during the Cold War 1:01:05 Rules of engagement at the border and description of fortifications 1:07:58 Interaction with German civilians and Soviet military during service 1:31:08 Journey to becoming a tank commander 1:35:48 Episode extras and appreciation for financial supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The fight to preserve Cold War history continues and via a simple monthly donation you will give me the ammunition to keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra photos and videos here. https://coldwarconversations.com/episode282/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1987 Martin received a letter informing him of his conscription into the Dutch Army. A number of European NATO countries had conscription during the Cold War. Holland’s applied to men over the age of 18 and included service for about a year, after which you were placed on the reserve. Martin objected to military service as a conscientious objector on religious grounds. Conscientious objectors could perform alternative civilian service instead of military service. However to get to be an official “conscientious objector” you had to pass multiple military courts and military procedures which was especially challenging for someone aged 17 years old. Martin is very honest about his beliefs and his experiences. During the Cold War he was seen by some as an enemy because he refused to bear arms to protect his country. You may disagree with his views, but it’s a Cold War topic that is little covered elsewhere and I’m sure you will find my conversation with Martin as fascinating and powerful as I did. 0:00 Introduction to Cold War Conversations and Martin's military interaction 0:58 Conscription during the Cold War and Martin's conscientious objection 2:13 Sponsor message and user testimony 4:30 Martin's family's experiences and his draft notice 10:54 Process and challenges of becoming a conscientious objector 22:07 Martin's moral position and Ian's comments 24:10 Attempts to avoid conscription and Dutch law 29:37 Anti-nuclear movement in Holland and soldiers' participation 33:39 Martin's gratitude for the law and public reaction to his conscientious objection 41:19 Perception of conscientious objectors and Martin's replacement service 48:26 Current status of conscription in the Netherlands 53:05 Martin's perspective on defending his country and serving humanity 56:51 Podcast extras, call for support, and closing remarks Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ .Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/281 The foundation Martin works for as a volunteer is: https://www.emmy.foundation/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mark Baker was featured in episode 9 where he told us about working in Czechoslovakia in the 1980s as a journalist for a small publishing company called Business International (BI). He was the company’s Czechoslovakia expert and with his Czech minder Arnold he travelled to Prague and other cities to report on significant economic and political developments. In 2021, he published “Čas Proměn” (“Time of Changes”), written in Czech, it is a collection of stories about Central and Eastern Europe in the 1980s and early ‘90s. Over the Christmas 2021 holidays, as he was visiting family in Ohio, he received a surprise email from a Czech academic. He was writing to Mark that he had finished reading the book and that he liked it. But then he added, cryptically, that Mark might want to revise part of it for future editions as he had found Mark’s Czechoslovak secret police surveillance file… We hear about the plans the Czechoslovak secret police had for Mark and the secret of Operation Oheň, aka Operation Fire. 0:00 Introduction to Mark Baker's story 2:40 Mark's journey as a journalist in Czechoslovakia 5:59 Discovering Arnold's collaboration with the secret police and Mark's own surveillance file 14:14 Reflection on the photographs from Mark's surveillance file 19:45 Decoding the secret language and understanding the code names in the file 24:01 Unveiling Mark's first appearance on the secret police radar 44:15 Mark Baker: Operation Ohen and the infiltration of US Embassies 45:00 Changes after the fall of the Berlin Wall and end of STB operations 48:59 Ian Sanders: Closing remarks, reminders and invitation to join the discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Now if you think there is a vast army of research assistants, audio engineers and producers putting together this podcast you’d be wrong. This podcast relies on your support to enable me to continue to capture these incredible stories and make them available to everyone for free. If you’d like to help to preserve Cold War history and enable me to continue to produce this podcast you can via one off or monthly donations. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/for more details. Listen to mark's previous episode here https://pod.fo/e/f83f Mark's blog is available here. https://markbakerprague.com/part-1-introducing-our-man-inter Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We return to Dirk’s story from episode 278 with a move to East Berlin following his mother’s divorce from his father. Dirk finds school life more relaxed where pupils are allowed to wear Western clothing and to speak more openly, even questioning their teachers about the existence of the Berlin Wall. After leaving school, Dirk starts work in a factory from which he can see into West Berlin and he longs for a life away from the restrictions of East Germany. His mother’s new partner is a conscripted border guard who advises him not to attempt an escape over the Wall. However, as East Germany starts to implode in November 1989 Dirks sees a chance to escape… We also hear of his and his family’s life in the new Germany where at school reunions the children of Stasi families reveal their secrets and his mother sees the contents of her Stasi file. 0:00 Introduction and Dirk's life in East Berlin 7:24 Dirk's career and encounters with international leaders 15:33 Dirk's changing perspectives on East Germany and life near the Berlin Wall 20:06 The risks of escaping East Germany and Dirk's involvement in 1989 demonstrations 24:18 Dirk's escape to West Germany 30:32 Arrival in West Germany and the reunion with his mother 36:43 The adjustment to the reunification of Germany 39:59 Post-reunification life and Dirk's connections with school friends 42:17 Discoveries from Stasi files and the impact on Dirk's family 44:53 Closing remarks and promotion of episode extras Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Dirk's previous episode https://coldwarconversations.com/episode278/ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode279 Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dirk lived in the town of Bernau about 15 miles from East Berlin. Just outside Bernau was Wandlitz the residential estate of the East German leadership. As a result, Bernau had one of the highest densities of Stasi facilities in East Germany. Dirk shares details of his childhood growing up in a Plattenbau block of flats where his school friends were children of NVA officers, Stasi officers, and Soviet Army officers. He shares some fascinating details of school life and visits the homes of his school friends in Bernau. However, his parents clashed with his school teachers as they bullied Dirk for wearing western clothing. We also hear how his parent's anti-soviet view originated with his grandparents fleeing the World War 2 Soviet invasion of East Prussia and an Uncle who was arrested and disappeared in Berlin in 1945. 0:00 Introduction and Dirk's early life in East Germany 8:45 Impact of the Berlin Wall on Dirk's family and visits from West German relatives 16:22 Confrontations with teachers over Western influences and passive resistance to East German authorities 22:36 Discretion about Western influences and maintaining friendships with children of East German and Soviet army officers 27:38 Visiting the homes of Russian friends and experiences with Russian conscripts 35:21 Treatment of Soviet conscripts as observed by British troops and daily life amidst the Soviet and East German armies 41:09 Hidden bunkers, bases in East Germany, and Stasi surveillance of Dirk's family 45:01 Discussion about escaping East Germany and family visits to West Germany 47:06 Preview of Dirk's story in the next episode and acknowledgments Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Videos and extra episode info here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode278 Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ana Montes was the most damaging female spy in US history. For nearly 17 years, Montes was one of the government's top Cuba experts, with easy access to classified documents. By night, she was working for Fidel Castro's Cuba, listening to coded messages over shortwave radio, passing US secrets to handlers in local restaurants, and slipping into Havana wearing a wig. Her only sister, Lucy, worked for the FBI helping the FBI flush Cuban spies out of the United States. Little did Lucy or her family know that the greatest Cuban spy of all was sitting right next to them at Thanksgivings, baptisms, and weddings. I speak with investigative journalist Jim Popkin whose book Code Name Blue Wren, weaves the tale of two sisters who chose two very different paths and reveals the making of a traitor- a woman labelled "one of the most damaging spies in U.S. history" by America's top counter-intelligence official. After more than two decades in federal prison, Montes was freed in January 2023. 0:00 Introduction to Anna Montes and her spying activities 10:15 Anna Montes' radicalization and move to Washington 18:10 Anna's trip to Cuba and her spy training 26:12 Anna's entry into the DIA and her unique method of passing information 33:14 Anna's communication methods with Cuba and her siblings joining the FBI 42:01 Colleagues' perception of Anna and her personality changes 49:37 The FBI's success in Cuban counterintelligence operations and suspicions about Anna 54:42 Agent S's identity and the investigation into Agent S 1:02:19 Building the case against Ana Montes and the evidence found 1:07:20 Ana Montes' promotion, arrest, and prosecution 1:15:22 Anna Montes' unapologetic stance and her sentence 1:18:08 Jim's book: Code Name Blue Ren 1:19:07 Cold War Conversations Facebook Group and store promotions Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Buy the book here https://amzn.to/3l9s47k Episodes mentioned Number stations https://coldwarconversations.com/episode239/ Photos and videos relating to this episode https://coldwarconversations.com/episode277/ The battle to preserve Cold War history is ongoing and your support can provide me with the ammunition to continue to keep this podcast on the air. Via a simple monthly donation, you’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Every weekday on the History Daily podcast, Lindsay Graham takes you back in time to explore a momentous moment that happened ‘on this day’ in history. 1989 was a pivotal year for the Cold War. The fall of the Berlin Wall, free elections in Poland, and the almost bloodless revolutions in the other Warsaw Pact countries apart from Romania. However, two other important events occurred in 1989 and this bonus episode will cover those events. So here is the 1989 US Invasion of Panama and the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre courtesy of our friends at History Daily. Just search History Daily in your podcast app for further episodes. https://www.historydaily.com/ We have two full episodes for you. 1989 US Invasion of Panama December 20, 1989. President George H.W. Bush launches a US invasion of Panama to depose the country's dictator, and former CIA informant, Manuel Noriega. The Tiananmen Square Massacre June 3, 1989. In a bloody government crackdown on dissent, Chinese troops storm Beijing's Tiananmen Square and open fire on a pro-democracy demonstration, killing hundreds of unarmed civilians. Related videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode276/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tim Lyon was an officer assigned to the 400th Strategic Missile Squadron located in Cheyenne Wyoming. The Squadron was maintained 50 Peacekeeper ICBM missiles based in underground silos in farmers’ fields in remote areas of Wyoming. Tim was one of two launch officers who were responsible for 10 of these missiles. He and his colleague would descend forty to sixty feet below ground to a concrete capsule that housed the Launch Control Centre. There he would spend 24-hour alerts ready to launch 100 nuclear warheads — each with twenty times the explosive force of the Hiroshima bomb at speeds of 15,000 mph. We hear in detail about his training, the testing procedures, security, and how he handled such a huge responsibility. Tim also describes launching one of these missiles from a test site in the US. Episodes mentioned: Commanding a Royal Navy Polaris Nuclear Missile Submarine https://coldwarconversations.com/episode168/ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode275/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Warning: This episode does cover the subject of suicide. If you need help please use these links: UK https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/ Rest of the World https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp Dean Reed was an American actor, singer and songwriter, director, and Socialist who became a huge star in Latin America and the Eastern Bloc. Neil Jacobs is a guitarist who first met Dean Reed briefly while renting accommodation from Will Roberts, who directed the documentary of Dean Reed called “American Rebel”. Neil served on the US Cultural Delegation to the Moscow World Youth Festival in 1985 and unlike most of the participants, he was assigned by the Soviets. I did not go through any of the screening processes that the American Delegation had undergone, and therefore has a unique perspective on the event. It was at this event he began his friendship with Dean Reed. Additionally, he traveled with Dean Reed extensively both in the US and in the Eastern Bloc from 1985 -1986 and was one of the last people to see him before his death. 0:00 Introduction and Content Warning 4:46 Neil's first meeting with Dean Reed and their friendship 7:03 Filming and Screening of "American Rebel" 11:26 Dean Reed's Mentoring and Support for Neil 15:00 Dean Reed's experiences at the World Youth Festival 20:18 Dean Reed's Relationship with Host, Ian Sanders 24:44 Dean Reed's Struggle to Reestablish a Career in the US 28:19 Dean Reed's Controversial Stance on the Berlin Wall 32:46 Discussion on German Fascination with American Western Cowboy Culture 41:21 Dean Reed's Unexpected Death and Speculations 46:19 Mysterious Deaths of Celebrities in East Germany 51:54 Fears and Speculations about Dean Reed's Death 54:14 Impact of the Chernobyl Incident on Dean Reed's State of Mind 55:06 Closing Remarks and Acknowledgments to Supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Listen to our other Dean Reed episodes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode97/ https://coldwarconversations.com/episode98/ The battle to preserve Cold War history is ongoing and your support can provide me with the ammunition to continue to keep this podcast on the air. Via a simple monthly donation, you’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Photos and videos relating to this episode https://coldwarconversations.com/episode274/ Neil Jacobs web site https://www.neiljacobs.com/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On 10 February 1962, Gary Powers, the American pilot whose U2 spy plane was shot down in Soviet airspace, was released on “The Bridge in Spies” in Berlin by his captors in exchange for one Colonel Rudolf Abel, aka Vilyam Fisher - one of the most extraordinary characters in the history of the Cold War. Born plain William Fisher in Newcastle upon Tyne, in the UK this British grammar schoolboy was the child of revolutionary parents who had fled tsarist oppression in Russia. Their son returned to his spiritual homeland, the newly formed Soviet Union, and became a spy, embarking on a mission to New York, where he ran the network that stole America's atomic secrets. In 1957, Willie's luck ran out and he was arrested and sentenced to thirty years in prison. Five years later, the USSR's regard for his talents was proven when they insisted on swapping him for Gary Powers. I speak with Vin Arthey, the author of “Abel. The true story of the spy they traded for Gary Powers” Vin Arthey has traced Willie's tale from the most unlikely of beginnings in Newcastle, to Moscow, the streets of New York, and back again, a story of Cold War espionage to rival anything in fiction. 0:00 Introduction and discussion about Willie Fisher's spy work 10:26 Willie Fisher's upbringing and education in England 18:49 Fisher's move to Russia and his early years in Soviet society 25:33 Fisher's entry and rise in the intelligence services 38:41 Fisher's significant operations during the Great Patriotic War 42:52 Fisher's training and espionage work in the US 57:42 Fisher's capture, trial, and the role of his defense lawyer, Jim Donovan 1:08:26 The spy exchange, Fisher's imprisonment, and contact with his family 1:14:23 Fisher's life post-exchange in the Soviet Union and his role in the KGB 1:19:15 Fisher's final moments and the KGB's surveillance of him Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Buy the book here https://amzn.to/3D9di6B Episodes mentioned The Rosenberg’s https://coldwarconversations.com/episode184/ Portland Spy Ring https://coldwarconversations.com/episode138/ https://coldwarconversations.com/episode139/ The battle to preserve Cold War history is ongoing and your support can provide me with the ammunition to continue to keep this podcast on the air. Via a simple monthly donation, you’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Videos and further infor here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode273/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Marie-Claude Hawkes continues her story with her return to Berlin in 1985 as a French teaching assistant at the Havel School RAF Gatow, teaching French and taking part in school activities in West and East Berlin. Between September 86 and August 87 Marie-Claude was employed as a cartoonist for the Berlin Bulletin, the weekly magazine for the British Forces in Berlin. Marie Claude describes her experiences as a French citizen working for the British Army as well as the challenges of being a French civilian in Berlin marrying a British citizen. In February 1988 Marie-Claude started work as the Director of Extra-Mural Studies at 46 AEC (Army Education Corps), Smuts Barracks in Spandau. While organising various classes for service men/women and their ‘dependents’, she also provided interpreting and trips to East Berlin for various purposes, one illegal… It’s a fascinating view of Cold War Berlin from a perspective not heard before. 7:14 Marie-Claude Hawkes' experiences in Berlin and role at the Harvard School 14:39 Marie-Claude Hawkes' post-marriage life and career in the Army Education Corps 17:28 Life in Berlin, cultural barriers, and infamous locations 20:49 Marie-Claude Hawkes' role in the Education Center and adventures in East Berlin 30:06 Unique rules and regulations of living in Berlin: 'Berlinology' 33:37 Discussions on Berlin defense and encounters with Soviet officers 38:53 Marie-Claude Hawkes' wedding and experience on the French military train 46:26 Inquiry about Stasi files and reflections on being a part of history 48:16 Sponsor: Episode extras and gratitude to financial supporters 48:50 Closing remarks and preview of next episode Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Episodes mentioned: The Defence of RAF Gatow https://coldwarconversations.com/episode257/ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra info including photos, and videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode272/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1981 Marie-Claude Hawkes was an 18-year-old living in Amiens, France when she embarked on a trip to East Germany looking for adventure… Among her experiences was working in a lignite coal mine. Lignite is considered the lowest rank of coal and the most harmful coal to human health but was a major fuel source for East German power stations. Marie-Claude travelled from Paris to Leipzig on an overnight train, staying at the International Youth Camp in Borna. From there she travelled every day to work in the open lignite mine at Espenhain, about 16 miles from Leipzig. She describes working at the mine, weekends off, visits to Leipzig, Magdeburg, Weimar, and a potato peeling factory...! It’s a fascinating view of East Germany away from the capital Berlin. 0:00 Introduction and Mary Claude Hawkes' initial experiences in East Germany 2:06 Sponsor: Promotion of Cold War Conversations and listener's testimonial 4:51 Mary Claude Hawkes' journey to East Germany and arrival at the International Youth Camp 13:43 Work and life in the International Youth Camp 22:37 Leisure time: visits to Leipzig and after-work activities 25:51 Travel experiences and evening entertainment in East Germany 29:01 Political experiences and visits to various factories 33:11 Working conditions and run-in with authorities 40:01 Impressions of Magdeburg and East Berlin 44:13 Return to Paris and plans for future visits to Berlin 45:23 Sponsor: Thanks to financial supporters and invitation to join the Facebook Discussion Group 46:19 Closing remarks and mention of the Cold War Conversations store Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Check out the episode related photos and videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode271/ Radio GDR If you are interested in East Germany we can highly recommend our friends over at Radio GDR. Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Part 2, of a two part recording. Part 1 is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode268 In October of 2022, I was asked by the West Pennines Military Vehicle Trust to moderate a Q&A session with a number of BRIXMIS veterans. Attending were Drivers Neil Walton, Pete Curran, Dave Collins and Kev Smith, plus Sandy Saxton-Warne (Joint operations & weapons) , Mike Hill (Tour officer), Mike Corcoran (Weapons), and Dave Butler (Senior Non Commissioned Officer, Tourer). It was an amazing afternoon of reminiscing about their experiences and viewing the amazing collections they had from that time. My good friend Colin Dyter was a massive help with the recording, but a quick note that the audio is not up to the usual quality of Cold War Conversations, due to background noise, but I think the events and activities described definitely make it worth listening to. 0:00 Introduction and background on the episode's guests 2:15 BRIXMIS veterans and their stories 6:44 Importance of safeguarding sensitive equipment and intelligence gathering 14:52 Identifying and tracking Soviet equipment 24:06 Scavenging procedures and notable discoveries 30:22 Operation Tomahawk and the risks of tour driving 39:35 Confrontations with Russians and successful escapes 46:17 Use of maps and marking points of interest in the Cold War 58:10 Collecting memorabilia and living conditions in the DDR 1:02:14 Closing remarks and episode extras Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode270 Support the show Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 1986 Soviet Leader Mikhail Gorbachev said “Never perhaps, in the post-war decades has the situation in the world been explosive and hence more difficult and unfavourable as in the first half of the 1980s. “ He was referring to a period of immense tension between the Soviet Union and NATO when in 1983 a NATO exercise called Able Archer was believed to have almost accidentally started World War 3. We delve into the Able Archer archives to talk about the most recent documents with Francesca Akhtar, a researcher whose main research interests are US Cold War foreign policy, intelligence history and defence. Francesca has written a dissertation entitled “The most dangerous Soviet-American confrontation since the Cuban Missile Crisis?” An analysis of the origins, nature, and impact of the Able Archer 83 incident. 0:00 Introduction and context about Able Archer 1:07 Overview of Able Archer and its potential to start World War 3 2:15 Sponsor message and call for donations 3:19 The changes in Able Archer in 1983 and misconceptions 6:51 Context of shooting down of Korean airliner in 1983 and comparison with the Cuba missile crisis 10:31 Status of UK archives on Able Archer and challenges in obtaining information 14:11 Discussion on the cancellation of Able Archer in 1990 and continuation despite potential misunderstandings 21:11 Introduction to the revealing documents in the February state department release and discussion on Perroots' letter 32:11 The letter that sparked an investigation and possible preemptive strike 35:03 Post-exercise NSA message, Soviet readiness, and criticism of US intelligence 41:17 Soviet side and access to information and concluding remarks on the Cold War scare 47:16 Acknowledgement of the episode extras and appreciation of financial supporters 48:30 Closing remarks and promotion of the Cold War Conversations store Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Regular listeners will remember that Francesca talked about Able Archer 83 previously in Episode 19. The battle to preserve Cold War history is ongoing and your support can provide me with the ammunition to continue to keep this podcast on the air. Via a simple monthly donation, you’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. View the actual Able Archer intelligence briefing documents here as well as videos, and extra information https://coldwarconversations.com/episode269/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In October of 2022, I was asked by the West Pennines Military Vehicle Trust to moderate a Q&A session with a number of BRIXMIS veterans. Part 2 is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode270 Attending were Drivers Neil Walton, Pete Curran, Dave Collins and Kev Smith, plus Sandy Saxton-Warne (Joint operations & weapons) , Mike Hill (Tour officer), Mike Corcoran (Weapons), and Dave Butler (Senior Non Commissioned Officer, Tourer). It was an amazing afternoon of reminiscing about their experiences and viewing the amazing collections they had from that time. Don’t miss part 2 which follows next week. My good friend Colin Dyter was a massive help with the recording, but a quick note that the audio is not up to the usual quality of Cold War Conversations, due to background noise, but I think the events and activities described definitely make it worth listening to. 0:00 Introduction and story from Dave Collins 5:25 Dave Collins recounts the night the wall came down 8:47 Neil Walton talks about their communication system and shares stories of challenging situations 15:41 Monitoring equipment and weapon remnants in East Germany 21:21 An encounter with the MFS during a tour 28:20 Discussion about different units and experiences in the army 39:04 Understanding 'tarpology' and recognizing Soviet equipment 44:35 Special permits and fast driving experiences 54:04 Using thermal imaging in the Cold War 1:01:14 Cliffhanger - The discovery about the missile 1:01:42 Acknowledgement of financial supporters and call for donations Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes herehttps://coldwarconversations.com/episode268 Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sean Kelly is the author of Home Bases: Memories & Stories of US Military Bases Around London which for the first time, puts the spotlight on the history of many of the US Military’s lesser-known command and support bases that were located either in or close to London. The bases (often known as ‘Little Americas’) are furthermore brought to life in a series of ‘snapshot’ memories. We hear about the heroism of US personnel who were awarded the George Medal for bravery in rescuing people caught in the great floods of 1953 as well as including actor Larry Hagman who played JR Ewing in the TV series Dallas. We talk about the memories of bases further afield such as Upper Heyford, Greenham Common, Sculthorpe, and Burtonwood. 0:00 Introduction and background of Sean Kelly 1:59 Sponsor: Call for donations 2:23 Guest Introduction: Sean Kelly 7:38 Sean Kelly's book "Home Bases" and the history of US military bases in London 15:20 Personal stories from US military bases 28:31 Transformation and current state of Greenham Common 34:11 Personal anecdotes from those who served on the bases 48:54 The peak of the Cold War in the UK and discussion about the Burtonwood base 58:24 The special relationship between the UK and the US and the importance of personal stories in understanding history 1:02:30 Where to Find Sean Kelly's Book and Contact Information 1:06:22 Podcast Extras and Support Information Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Buy the book here https://amzn.to/3V8959o The battle to preserve Cold War history is ongoing and your support can provide me with the ammunition to continue to keep this podcast on the air. Via a simple monthly donation, you’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. I am delighted to welcome Sean Kelly to our Cold War conversation… Sean's websites Home Bases https://www.facebook.com/ushomebases 7 North Audley https://www.facebook.com/7NorthAudley Episodes referred to: Greenham Common https://coldwarconversations.com/episode18/ Burtonwood https://coldwarconversations.com/episode74/ Upper Heyford https://coldwarconversations.com/episode65/ Further episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode267/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We’re back with Alan Hodges, a Royal Tank Regiment Chieftain tank commander, and Mick Hadfield who was his 17-year-old gunner. In this episode we talk in detail about their deployment within a kilometer of the East German border and their tasks should H Hour have come as well as emergency deployment from barracks. There is no affection for their main training area at Soltau described as “the moon with a few trees and also in less polite terms. However, these training periods are made better by the regular appearance of Wolfgang, a German entrepreneur and British Army legend who was uncannily able to place his snack vans whenever the British Army deployed. We also hear how the crew was also trained on how to evacuate the tank if it was hit as well as how to evade capture and resist interrogation. It’s anecdotes galore again including a visit from a Swedish Major who unwisely was given the chance to drive Chieftain. There’s also sadness as we remember those that never came back from exercises due to accidents. It’s the continuing story of the close bond that soldiers forge that still lasts to this day. 0:00 Introduction 2:37 Discussion of training procedures and deployment strategies 6:20 Recollection of training exercises and potential war scenarios 12:39 Experiences and preparations for potential emergency situations 19:17 Experiences with escape and evasion exercises 23:50 Reflections on Exercise Lionheart and Soltau training area 29:51 Discussion of casualties of Cold War training exercises 34:48 Reflections on the seriousness of training and camaraderie developed during service 44:47 Maintaining focus and motivation during training and visits to both sides of Berlin 49:17 Discussion about Cold War literature and potential film creation 51:14 Reality of military life and benefits of being stationed in Germany 54:02 Social activities in Germany and episode wrap-up Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra videos and photos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode266/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Alan Hodges was a Royal Tank Regiment Chieftain tank commander and troop SGT in West Germany. Mick Hadfield was his 17-year-old gunner. The affection between the two is still apparent even today and Mick still calls Al his army Dad. Mick met Al in 1987 straight out of his armoured corp gunnery training at Catterick. They served for 3 years together in 1st Royal Tank Regiment in Hildesheim from August 87 to December 90. They share detailed insights into the operations of the Chieftain, the training, the camaraderie of a crew as well as important details like how you go the loo in a tank.. As part of 1st Royal Tank Regiment they were at the time (the most forward-facing Tank unit in BAOR and given a 2-hour life expectancy. They were told that if the Soviet 3rd Shock army crossed the border, each Chieftain would have to knock out a minimum of 10 Soviet tanks before they got overrun. 0:00 Introduction 4:07 Mick's journey into the army and Al's family military background 10:04 Experiences with the Chieftain Mark 2 tank and its components 16:40 Structure of the tank regiment and regional recruitment 23:59 Training process for the Chieftain crew and simulation experiences 34:06 Cold War threat discussion and ammunition types 42:49 Physical experience of being in a tank and recalling incidents 47:25 Reality of fighting in AFVs and potential for motion sickness in a tank 57:04 Relationship between a crew and their tank, tuning for performance 1:02:40 Knowledge of the battleground and teaser for the next episode 1:03:30 Closing remarks and invitation to the Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Extra videos and photos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode265/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the early 1970s, the athletes of East Germany started to achieve incredible sports results, winning medals and setting new world records with astonishing frequency. For many years, their sporting supremacy was hailed as a triumph of the socialist government's commitment to scientific research and innovative training methods. However, after the Cold War ended, the Stasi archives revealed a sinister secret behind the successes: a perverse doping system imposed by the government itself. Drugs were administered to young athletes, often without their consent, and the price their bodies are now paying is very high, both physically and mentally. I talk with Joseph Tudor, whose new book Synthetic Medals reveals the events that led to the discovery of the state-doping system and the subsequent trial. It also explores the state's motives for this crime against its own people. 0:00 Introduction and Joseph Tudor's perspective on East German doping 2:04 Sponsor: Call to support the Cold War Conversations podcast 4:12 East Germany's adoption of artificial methods to enhance athletes' performance 10:43 Unveiling the East German 'athlete machine' 17:47 The International Olympic Committee's suspicions about East Germany's success 21:44 Prevalence and detection of doping in East German sports 26:05 Resistance and consequences against Stasi's involvement in sports 31:49 Discovery of State Plan 14.25, East Germany's state doping program 34:03 Legal challenges surrounding East Germany's doping program 38:39 The devastating side effects of doping drugs on athletes 45:30 Legacy of East German athletic success and the role of doping 52:37 Athletes returning their medals due to guilt of doping 56:13 Sponsor: Promotion of the book 'Synthetic Medals: East German Athlete's Journey to Hell' 57:05 Closing remarks and promotion of the Cold War Conversations store Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Extra episode info here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode264/ Buy the book here https://amzn.to/3gVZbtI and support the podcast. ========================================================== Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. ========================================================== Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From the moment East Germany was formed in 1949, many of its citizens chose to leave to start a new life in the West. By the mid-1950s, the trickle had turned into a flood as large numbers rejected Walter Ulbricht’s Communist paradise. His ‘Workers’ & Peasants’ State’ could not afford to lose the skills and productivity of these key workers, so he proposed a radical solution - to physically fence in the whole population. I speak with Andrew Long, the author of a series of books about Cold War Berlin as we explore the background and build-up to the building of the Berlin Wall, from the closing of the Inner German border to the momentous events of August 1961. We examine in detail how Operation Rose, the operation to close the border between East and West Berlin, was planned and executed and look at how the West reacted. 0:00 Introduction 1:04 Formation and Exodus of East Germany 7:51 Dissent and Exodus in East Germany 15:39 The Unique Situation in Berlin and the Establishment of Air Corridors 18:11 Khrushchev's Ultimatum and the Role of Nuclear Deterrence 24:16 Arrival of JFK and the Renewed Ultimatum 33:27 Operation Rose and the Planning for the Berlin Wall 47:08 Situation at Checkpoint Charlie and Allies' Response 56:43 Propaganda and Defection Post-Border Closure 1:07:30 Rules of Engagement and Fortification of the Berlin Wall 1:11:23 Acknowledgement of Financial Supporters and Donation Call to Action Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Extra episode info here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode263/ Buy Andrew's books here https://amzn.to/3hI6N2Y and support the podcast. Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Photos and video extra here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode263/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dave Phillips is a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London. The Yeoman Warders have been guarding the Tower since Tudor times. Dave joined the British Army aged 16 into the Royal Irish Rangers. We hear of his early years in the Army in Northern Ireland and his posting to West Berlin. In West Berlin Dave is part of the force that guarded Rudolf Hess, a leading member of the Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and appointed Deputy Führer to Adolf Hitler in 1933. On 10 May 1941, Hess made a solo flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks with the British. He was arrested and stood trial at the 1946 Nuremberg trials of major war criminals. The court convicted him of crimes against peace and of conspiracy with other German leaders to commit crimes and was given a life sentence in Berlin’s Spandau Prison. Dave describes interactions with Hess, as well as the guard duties and operation of the prison. 0:00 Introduction and Dave Phillips' early experiences in Berlin 1:04 The story of Rudolph Hess and his arrest 6:16 Dave's experiences in Berlin and Spandau Prison 15:38 A typical day for Hess in Spandau Prison and guarding duties 24:56 Hess's time at the Tower of London and conversations with him 28:59 Military training in Berlin and preparations for a potential invasion 36:00 Interaction with other occupying forces and West Berlin locals 39:44 Dave's return to Berlin years later and reminiscing about the fall of the Berlin Wall 45:16 Career progression, service in Northern Ireland and UN Peacekeeping 49:22 Dave's current role as a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London 52:54 Financial support and donations Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode videos and photos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode262/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We continue the story of Richard Stachurski from the previous episode. Part 1 is here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode260 In 1971 Richard left NASA and was assigned to the Drone/Remotely Piloted Vehicle Systems Program Office at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. From 1975-1978 Richard did a tour of duty with the Air Staff at the Pentagon in Washington D.C. and between 1978-1981: he was Deputy Program Manager, Ground Launched Cruise Missile Program (GLCM) System Program Office-engaged in the adaptation of the Navy’s SLCM for use by the Air Force. In 1981 he was assigned to the staff at USAFE Headquarters (Ramstein Air Force Base, Germany) responsible for the deployment of the GLCM to five European countries (England, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, and Italy). Richard was then promoted in 1984 to Vice Commander, Commander, 487th Tactical Missile Wing, Comiso Air Station, Sicily where he was responsible for the missile wing's operational readiness, and his troops' welfare. 0:00 Introduction and background of Richard Stachurski 4:18 Rationale behind developing drone programs 13:12 Design and manufacture of the missile launcher and control center 17:34 Richard Stachurski's agreement to go to the Royal College of Defense Studies in London 34:45 Initial impressions of Comiso Air Base and roles at the base 41:10 Encounter with Russian special forces 45:30 Dealing with peace protesters and security protocol 46:49 The short-lived cruise missile program 51:59 The significance of the Apollo 11 mission 53:20 Cold War Conversations Store Promotion Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes and videos here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode261 Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Richard Stachurski joined the US Air Force in 1962, on the cusp of the Cuban Missile Crisis as a security police officer guarding nuclear-armed B-58 Hustler bombers. Within two years he volunteered for the Minuteman nuclear missile program where he served as a Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander with the 68th Strategic Missile Squadron at Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota. Richard was the junior officer on a two-man crew in a launch control capsule buried beneath the South Dakota prairie who was charged with monitoring the status and launching if necessary ten Minuteman ICBMs. In 1965 he was selected as one of 128 Air Force officers to be loaned to NASA to support the activation and operation of the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Texas. He worked his way up to being a Network Controller, who sat two consoles to the right of the Flight Director in the Mission Operations Control Room. He was responsible for all the ground systems that supported an Apollo mission and was selected as the lead Network Controller on Apollo 11 working on both the launch from Earth and the first-ever launch from the lunar surface. 0:00 Introduction and Career Overview of Richard Stachurski 2:33 Richard's Journey in the US Air Force and the Cuban Missile Crisis 9:25 The Minuteman System and Life in the Bunker 20:14 Launch Protocols and the Dynamics of Working as a Missileer 27:03 Richard's Transition to NASA and his Role in Apollo 11 34:29 Apollo 11 Launch Day, Landing, and Return to Earth 44:43 Richard's Experiences during Apollo 13 and Subsequent Missions 48:10 The Camaraderie and Humour in High-Stress Situations 50:00 Acknowledgements and Promotion of the Cold War Conversations Online Store Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. One-off donations are also welcome. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Episode notes , inc photos and video here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode260/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Home Service Force or HSF was UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's Cold War version of the World War 2 Home Guard. An almost forgotten unit, the HSF was established in 1982 and recruited from ex-regular Army, ex-territorial and ex-uniformed service personnel aged up to 60 years old. Its mission was to guard key points in the UK as the perceived threat from Warsaw Pact special forces increased towards the end of the Cold War. I speak with Richard Coles, who served as an officer in the HSF Company of The Honourable Artillery Company (HAC). He tells of the setup of the unit, the incredible characters he served with and details some of the exercises that he participated in. 0:00 Introduction and overview of the Home Service Force 2:38 Richard Cole's background and establishment of the Home Service Force 6:34 Recruitment and training process for the Home Service Force 13:51 Role and perceived threats of the Home Service Force 21:45 Diversity and roles within the Home Service Force members 29:12 Memorable characters and experiences within the Home Service Force 34:31 Career paths and attitudes towards promotion within the Home Service Force 38:35 Various training exercises and anecdotes from the Home Service Force 47:28 Disbandment of the Home Service Force and its irony 51:44 Richard Cole's service in 2 HAC companies and reflections on the bond between old soldiers 53:18 Sponsor: Episode extras, acknowledgements, and invitation to Facebook discussion group Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ The Cold War Conversation continues in our Facebook discussion group and on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank you and bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. I am delighted to welcome Richard Coles to our Cold War conversation… Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode259 Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Back in the 1970s, migrating from the Soviet Union was an unattainable dream for many, particularly Jews wanting to leave for Israel. To leave the Soviet Union for another country, it was necessary to obtain exit visas. In practice, many people found them impossible to get. On the morning of June 15, 1970, 16 Soviet Jews who had been refused exit visas appeared at Smolny Airport near Leningrad to hijack a plane. They posed as a group going to a wedding — hence the name of the operation. The plan devised a year before the attempted hijacking, was quite straightforward. The hijackers would target a small aeroplane and book all the seats on it. They would commandeer the aircraft and leave the pilots unharmed on the landing strip, while one of the conspirators would take control of the aeroplane and fly it to Sweden. I speak with filmmaker Anat Zalmanson-Kuznetsov whose film “Operation Wedding” reveals the compelling story of her parents, the leaders of the group. 0:00 Introduction and background on Soviet Union migration 7:22 The Struggle of Soviet Jews' Emigration 11:16 The Origin and Execution of Operation Wedding 17:03 The Arrests and Aftermath of Operation Wedding 24:36 Prison Conditions and International Reaction 30:17 Influences and Interventions: Golda Meir and Franco 33:03 Soviet Restrictions on Emigration and Its Impact 35:22 Release and Life Post-Prison for Anat's Parents 40:52 The Making of the Film "Operation Wedding" 42:49 Acknowledgement of Supporters and Closing Remarks Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. One-off donations are also welcome. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. I am delighted to welcome Anat Zalmanson-Kuznetsov to our Cold War conversation… Episode notes and full film here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode258/ Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Trevor Howie’s role at RAF Gatow was advising the Station Commander on Station defence during times of war, tension or terrorist threat as well as the defence of 26 Signals Unit at the Teufelsberg listening post. RAF Gatow’s western side was located right against the Berlin Wall which was clearly visible from the control tower. Beyond the Wall was the Döberitz training area for the Soviet and East German Army. Soviet jets regularly overflew West Berlin emitting sonic booms to underline the immediate threat from their forces. To gain intelligence about the opposition Trevor used the resident De Havilland Chipmunk aircraft to see across the Wall and observe the neighbouring Soviet and East German forces. He describes the defence plans and exercises such as Exercise Grizzly Bear where every member of the air station would have played a part in its defence. Trevor vividly describes how he heard that the Wall had opened on 9th November 1989. It’s a fascinating view of British forces in Berlin and their plans should the Cold War have turned hot. 0:00 Introduction and Trevor Howie's role at RAF Gatow 3:53 The role and responsibilities of a station regiment officer 8:21 The vulnerability of the base and the plan in case of an attack 13:37 Life in Berlin during the Cold War 19:50 Discovery of a Stasi spy on the base and introduction to British Services Security Organization 23:50 Preparations for Exercise Grizzly Bear and the realization of the fall of the Berlin Wall 31:24 Enhanced security measures post-fall of the wall 37:27 Impact of the fall of the wall on Berliners and the beginning of the exit of Soviet forces 43:10 Discovery of World War 2 ammunition and relics in the base 46:10 Podcast extras, appreciation of financial supporters Table of contents powered by PodcastAI✨ Cold War history is disappearing; however, a simple monthly donation will keep this podcast on the air. You’ll become part of our community and get a sought after CWC coaster as a thank you and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, We also welcome one-off donations via the same link. Episode notes here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode257/ Please leave a review. If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a written review. Support the project! https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/ Youtube https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices