The Rebooting Show

Defector is one of the clearest test cases of what comes after the scale era. Born out of the Deadspin walkout and structured as a worker cooperative, it has achieved something most digital media operations haven’t: five years of stability with zero st...

Caliber CEO Ramin Beheshti says younger audiences who aren’t typing URLs into browsers and aren’t interested in being talked down to. We get into why the traditional news product is mismatched with how people actually consume information, why platform-...

Isaac Saul started Tangle in 2019 without a platform job, a big name, or the institutional head start many Substack-era independents enjoyed. He describes himself bluntly: “When I started Tangle, I was a nobody.” In this episode, we talk about how he h...

The Schneps Media story is a blueprint for how local publishing can still work when it’s treated like a real business, not a civic charity. Josh Schneps explains how he and his mother built a diversified local empire by combining print, digital, and ev...

The Economist’s president Luke Bradley-Jones looks to Ferrari as an example of a brand that’s been able to use scarcity to drive value. Ferrari has avoided the trap of many luxury brands in chasing scale and in the process diluting their brands. While ...

The New York Times has become the rare publisher proving that subscriptions and advertising can strengthen each other. Chief Advertising Officer Joy Robins explains how a subscriber-first model creates the engagement, trust, and data that fuel a thrivi...

Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark and founder of Republican Voters Against Trump, discusses why neutrality no longer works in political journalism. Longwell argues that legacy media’s “studied impartiality” has become a liability in a polarized,...

Axios CRO Jacquelyn Cameron breaks down how Axios thinks about audience segmentation in an age when every publisher says they’re “audience-focused.” Jacquelyn explains why Axios organizes around five core personas — influencers, C-suite executives, dea...

TechCrunch’s new owner faced a familiar challenge: modernizing an old tech stack built for a different era. Matt Gross, vp of digital initiatives at TechCrunch owner Regent, joins Beehiiv CEO Tyler Denk to discuss how they untangled years of tech debt,...

Josh Marshall, founder of Talking Points Memo, has spent 25 years steering a small, independent newsroom through every shift in digital media. He discusses how TPM survived the traffic era, why it avoided venture capital, and what he calls the “small-b...

Tyler Brûlé has built Monocle into one of the most distinctive media brands of the past two decades. At a time when others chased clicks and platforms, Monocle went the other way. It invested in print, opening cafés and shops, launching a radio station...

Bots are taking over the internet, previewing a new world where agents interact and humans consume bot-created content. Cloudflare, a leading content delivery network, saw this coming. Cloudflare Chief Strategy Officer Stephanie Cohen told me that publ...

In this conversation, Beehiv CEO Tyler Denk joins me to discuss the evolving landscape of media, focusing on the importance of audience ownership and the role of email as a primary distribution channel. We compare Beehive and Substack, highlighting the...

This episode is sponsored by Piano The essential challenge for publishers is similar to most businesses: find a way to control their relationship with the customer. That means going back to basics, argues Trevor Kaufman, CEO of Piano, and giving people...

Keith Pepper has a handy reminder of his goal with Rough Draft Atlanta: a Post-It note on his computer that reads simply “meaningful, not massive.” That’s the approach Keith has taken with Rough Draft Atlanta, a local news business focused on well-heel...

Forbes CEO Sherry Phillips discusses how the 107-year-old brand is retooling for a far messier media market. Forbes is less a magazine than a platform that turns brand equity into revenue across multiple surfaces: advertising, branded content, newslett...

This week, I spoke to Essentially Sports cofounder Suryansh Tibarewal about how it is adapting its strategies in a time of traffic flux. Essentially sports is a high volume web publisher, one i’d consider as a classic pageview publisher. Suryansh and I...

This episode is sponsored by Piano. Check out the new report from The Rebooting and Piano that examines how revenue leaders at publishers are taking a "total monetization" approach. Deirdre Lester is no stranger to how sports brands can influence cultu...

Mike White built Greater Long Island from a one-man blog in Patchogue into a regional news brand spanning Suffolk and Nassau counties. A veteran of the New York Post and Daily News, Mike took a scrappy, bootstrapped approach—publishing five stories a d...

David Bank left the Wall Street Journal after a long run covering tech and philanthropy and assigned himself to a new beat in impact investing, a world of private capital being directed toward social good that legacy outlets largely ignored. That journ...

Louise Story, CEO of Atlas Obscura and veteran of The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times, joins me to talk about steering a beloved travel brand into its next chapter. We discuss her decision to wind down the in-house experiences business, why ...

Adi Ignatius, editor-at-large of Harvard Business Review, discusses how HBR is expanding beyond traditional subscriptions with the launch of HBR Executive, a $700 premium tier aimed at senior leaders. We talk about the shift from volume to value in med...

Variety co-editors-in-chief Cynthia Littleton and Ramin Setoodeh joined me to discuss how they strike this balance. We talk about how you treat publications as bigger brands, why print still matters in these models, the changing nature of celebrity in ...

Substack's recent funding got a lot of attention for the headline valuation number, as all fundings do, but it's more interesting to examine what its new investment and investors say about the direction of the company. In this episode, I'm joined by An...

Of all the areas AI is poised to overturn, marketing is at the top of the list. In truth, Silicon Valley has long held marketing is low esteem. Google CEO Eric Schmidt once sniffed that brand marketing is "the last bastion of unaccountable corporate sp...

Steve Grove spent over a decade inside Big Tech before returning home to Minnesota to run the Star Tribune. In this episode, we talk about what it takes to rebuild a local newspaper into a modern civic institution. Grove discusses why he left Google, h...

Generative AI is upending the long-standing relationship between publishers and the platforms that distribute their content. As tools like ChatGPT and Google’s AI Overviews deliver direct answers, the incentive to click through to publisher sites is di...

On this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I spoke with Vox Media president of revenue and growth Ryan Pauley about how the publisher has become a podcasting juggernaut, with Pivot, Decoder and Today Explained franchises. Ryan discusses the “Lego ap...

We held a live recording of The Rebooting Show from the Hearst House in Cannes. I spoke to Cosmopolitan editor-in-chief Willa Bennett and Hearst global CRO Lisa Howard about how Cosmo is evolving from a magazine and website into a multiplatform brand t...

On this crossover episode, Semafor’s Ben Smith and Vox Media’s and Business Insider’s Peter Kafka join me to discuss the quickly vanishing divide between institutional media brands and independent upstarts. This is the second part of three part convers...

Jessica Sibley, CEO of Time, joins to talk about how the 101-year-old media brand is approaching AI with a clear-eyed strategy rooted in business fundamentals. We discuss Time’s shift toward B2B, why it phased out speculative bets like NFTs and no-code...

The Wall Street Journal has many advantages at a perilous time for news publishers. It has a massive paid subscriber base (4.3 million across print and digital). It caters to an affluent audience. It has a storied brand. While AI is threatening to over...

The landscape for digital publishing is shifting. At the center of this is Google search, the backbone of the open web. Google's embrace of "AI mode" last week was a sign that it will overhaul its approach to search with vast implications for publisher...

Henry Blodget built Business Insider into one of the few breakout successes of the traffic era. Now, with his new project Regenerator, he’s taking a different path—one that reflects the broader shifts in digital media. We talk about the collapse of pla...

Nicholas Carlson spent nearly a decade building Business Insider into a video powerhouse to complement its webpage model. Now, with his new venture Dynamo, he’s making a clean break from the old model. No articles. No CMS. No pageviews. Dynamo is a vid...

I spoke with Anonymous Banker, an M&A advisor with a front-row view into the market for buying and selling digital media companies. Needless to say, it’s a buyer’s market. AB breaks down the market for digital publishing assets – broadly those with pag...

Kyle Denhoff, head of audience development for HubSpot Media, joined me to talk about how HubSpot has built one of the most effective media operations inside a tech company. We discuss how HubSpot’s practical, non-ideological approach to inbound market...

Janice Min joins to talk about building The Ankler into a focused, profitable media brand—and why she believes the future belongs to lean operators, not her past life helming glossy franchises. We talk about her transition from the high-gloss days of T...

Once a music magazine that competed with Rolling Stone to define cool in the pre-internet era, Spin is no longer really a magazine. Yes, it has brought the magazine (and Bob Guccione Jr) back, but Spin is an IP company now. It puts on Spin Sessions eve...

Inn this episode, The Daily Upside's Patrick Trousdale explains how niche products like Advisor Upside and ETF Upside are helping the company move up the value chain. We also talk about paid growth, building a newsroom, and why journalism—not just dist...

Stakeholder media is how a media company can stay influential and build a real business—especially now, when scaled ad models are in a full race to the bottom. Everyone wants to move from passive audiences to active communities. Stakeholder media is a ...

An enduring challenge of the media business is finding leverage in models. This used to be fairly straightforward. Newspapers had leverage as quasi-local monopolies, Magazines had leverage that allowed Vanity Fair to pay a writer nearly $500k for three...

Morning Brew CEO Robert Dippell joins me to break down the fundamental differences between consumer and B2B media, why so many publishers underestimate the challenge, and how Morning Brew has built a thriving B2B business alongside its flagship newslet...

Adam Ryan, CEO of Workweek, joined me this week to discuss his recent warning that the newsletter sector is overheated. Some points from the conversation: Newsletters are a commodity. The number of newsletters is growing faster than the number of reade...

Sean Griffey, until recently the CEO of Industry Dive, joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss the big things Industry Dive, and by extension a lot of B2B, got right. Sean was rarely mentioned in the collection of digital media CEOs of the recent de...

BuzzFeed has always been a company that plays with the boundaries of media, technology, and internet culture. From its early days mastering viral content to its ill-fated attempt to build a sustainable news division, the company has been in a constant ...

The worlds of TV and internet publishing operated separately. The platforms, the dynamics and even the language used was completely different. Linear TV was brand focused and driven by scarcity dynamics while the internet quickly became a direct market...

This week, I'm joined by Pete Pachal, a publishing veteran who writes The Media Copilot newsletter that focuses on the intersection of the news business and AI. Pete and I discuss the recent breakthrough with Deepseek, and what it means beyond Silicon ...

This is set up to be a banner year for alternative media. Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss why institutional media has lost power and influence to an assortment of podcasters, YouTubers and independent...

On this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I was joined by Alex Kantrowitz, who writes the Big Technology newsletter and hosts a podcast of the same name, in order to discuss the year ahead in tech platforms. We covered a lot of ground, including: T...