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Ep 174Substack's OnlyFans opportunity

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Substack's recent funding got a lot of attention for the headline valuation number, as all fundings do, but it's more interesting to examine what its new investment and investors say about the direction of the company. In this episode, I'm joined by An...

Jul 18, 202550 min

Ep 173The return of brand marketing

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Of all the areas AI is poised to overturn, marketing is at the top of the list. In truth, Silicon Valley has long held marketing is low esteem. Google CEO Eric Schmidt once sniffed that brand marketing is "the last bastion of unaccountable corporate sp...

Jul 15, 202547 min

Ep 172Inside the Minnesota Star Tribune’s Revival

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Steve Grove spent over a decade inside Big Tech before returning home to Minnesota to run the Star Tribune. In this episode, we talk about what it takes to rebuild a local newspaper into a modern civic institution. Grove discusses why he left Google, h...

Jul 8, 202552 min

Ep 171An AI grand bargain for publishers

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Generative AI is upending the long-standing relationship between publishers and the platforms that distribute their content. As tools like ChatGPT and Google’s AI Overviews deliver direct answers, the incentive to click through to publisher sites is di...

Jul 1, 202556 min

Ep 170Inside Vox Media's podcast strategy

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On this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I spoke with Vox Media president of revenue and growth Ryan Pauley about how the publisher has become a podcasting juggernaut, with Pivot, Decoder and Today Explained franchises. Ryan discusses the “Lego ap...

Jun 23, 20251h 0m

Ep 169The modernization of Cosmo

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We held a live recording of The Rebooting Show from the Hearst House in Cannes. I spoke to Cosmopolitan editor-in-chief Willa Bennett and Hearst global CRO Lisa Howard about how Cosmo is evolving from a magazine and website into a multiplatform brand t...

Jun 16, 202537 min

Ep 168The blurring of institutional and independent media

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On this crossover episode, Semafor’s Ben Smith and Vox Media’s and Business Insider’s Peter Kafka join me to discuss the quickly vanishing divide between institutional media brands and independent upstarts. This is the second part of three part convers...

Jun 12, 202521 min

Ep 167Inside Time's practical AI playbook

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Jessica Sibley, CEO of Time, joins to talk about how the 101-year-old media brand is approaching AI with a clear-eyed strategy rooted in business fundamentals. We discuss Time’s shift toward B2B, why it phased out speculative bets like NFTs and no-code...

Jun 9, 20251h 2m

Ep 166How the WSJ goes beyond ads and subscriptions

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The Wall Street Journal has many advantages at a perilous time for news publishers. It has a massive paid subscriber base (4.3 million across print and digital). It caters to an affluent audience. It has a storied brand. While AI is threatening to over...

Jun 3, 202551 min

Ep 165Google Zero

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The landscape for digital publishing is shifting. At the center of this is Google search, the backbone of the open web. Google's embrace of "AI mode" last week was a sign that it will overhaul its approach to search with vast implications for publisher...

May 26, 202533 min

Ep 164Henry Blodget on the media business in 2025

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Henry Blodget built Business Insider into one of the few breakout successes of the traffic era. Now, with his new project Regenerator, he’s taking a different path—one that reflects the broader shifts in digital media. We talk about the collapse of pla...

May 20, 20251h 3m

Ep 163Dynamo's Nicholas Carlson's pivot to video

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Nicholas Carlson spent nearly a decade building Business Insider into a video powerhouse to complement its webpage model. Now, with his new venture Dynamo, he’s making a clean break from the old model. No articles. No CMS. No pageviews. Dynamo is a vid...

May 13, 20251h 6m

Ep 162Anonymous Banker's bleak view of the media M&A market

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I spoke with Anonymous Banker, an M&A advisor with a front-row view into the market for buying and selling digital media companies. Needless to say, it’s a buyer’s market. AB breaks down the market for digital publishing assets – broadly those with pag...

May 7, 20251h 6m

Ep 161Inside HubSpot's go-direct media playbook

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Kyle Denhoff, head of audience development for HubSpot Media, joined me to talk about how HubSpot has built one of the most effective media operations inside a tech company. We discuss how HubSpot’s practical, non-ideological approach to inbound market...

Apr 29, 202550 min

Ep 160The Ankler's Janice Min embraces more with less

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Janice Min joins to talk about building The Ankler into a focused, profitable media brand—and why she believes the future belongs to lean operators, not her past life helming glossy franchises. We talk about her transition from the high-gloss days of T...

Apr 22, 20251h 3m

Ep 159Spin's IP strategy

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Once a music magazine that competed with Rolling Stone to define cool in the pre-internet era, Spin is no longer really a magazine. Yes, it has brought the magazine (and Bob Guccione Jr) back, but Spin is an IP company now. It puts on Spin Sessions eve...

Apr 14, 202556 min

Ep 158The Daily Upside's niche strategy

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Inn this episode, The Daily Upside's Patrick Trousdale explains how niche products like Advisor Upside and ETF Upside are helping the company move up the value chain. We also talk about paid growth, building a newsroom, and why journalism—not just dist...

Apr 8, 202545 min

Ep 157Semafor's Rachel Oppenheim on stakeholder media

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Stakeholder media is how a media company can stay influential and build a real business—especially now, when scaled ad models are in a full race to the bottom. Everyone wants to move from passive audiences to active communities. Stakeholder media is a ...

Apr 1, 202555 min

Ep 156Inside Dude Perfect’s highly profitable business model

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An enduring challenge of the media business is finding leverage in models. This used to be fairly straightforward. Newspapers had leverage as quasi-local monopolies, Magazines had leverage that allowed Vanity Fair to pay a writer nearly $500k for three...

Mar 25, 202545 min

Ep 155Morning Brew's Robert Dippell on moving into B2B

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Morning Brew CEO Robert Dippell joins me to break down the fundamental differences between consumer and B2B media, why so many publishers underestimate the challenge, and how Morning Brew has built a thriving B2B business alongside its flagship newslet...

Mar 17, 202550 min

Ep 154Adam Ryan on why newsletters are a channel, not a business model

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Adam Ryan, CEO of Workweek, joined me this week to discuss his recent warning that the newsletter sector is overheated. Some points from the conversation: Newsletters are a commodity. The number of newsletters is growing faster than the number of reade...

Mar 10, 202553 min

Ep 153B2B lessons for B2C

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Sean Griffey, until recently the CEO of Industry Dive, joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss the big things Industry Dive, and by extension a lot of B2B, got right. Sean was rarely mentioned in the collection of digital media CEOs of the recent de...

Feb 25, 202552 min

Ep 152BuzzFeed's Jonah Peretti on where social media went wrong

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BuzzFeed has always been a company that plays with the boundaries of media, technology, and internet culture. From its early days mastering viral content to its ill-fated attempt to build a sustainable news division, the company has been in a constant ...

Feb 17, 202555 min

Ep 151Ad tech comes to TV

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The worlds of TV and internet publishing operated separately. The platforms, the dynamics and even the language used was completely different. Linear TV was brand focused and driven by scarcity dynamics while the internet quickly became a direct market...

Feb 3, 202545 min

Ep 150The outlook for AI and publishing in 2025

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This week, I'm joined by Pete Pachal, a publishing veteran who writes The Media Copilot newsletter that focuses on the intersection of the news business and AI. Pete and I discuss the recent breakthrough with Deepseek, and what it means beyond Silicon ...

Jan 28, 202559 min

Ep 149Axios' Sara Fischer on the alternative media's growth

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This is set up to be a banner year for alternative media. Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss why institutional media has lost power and influence to an assortment of podcasters, YouTubers and independent...

Jan 20, 202554 min

Ep 148Big Tech in 2025

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On this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I was joined by Alex Kantrowitz, who writes the Big Technology newsletter and hosts a podcast of the same name, in order to discuss the year ahead in tech platforms. We covered a lot of ground, including: T...

Jan 13, 202550 min

Ep 147The end of affiliate arbitrage

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Mike Mallazzo, writer of the reliably excellent Zero Clicks newsletter from Martech Record and a veteran of digital publishing and marketing, joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss the state of affiliate and what to expect in the category in 2025. ...

Jan 6, 202556 min

Ep 146How Gannett is adapting for an AI era

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In this live podcast, I spoke to Imtiaz Patel, chief consumer officer; Kristin Roberts, chief content officer; Jason Taylor, chief sales officer; and Renn Turiano, chief product officer. We discussed rethinking the article page, the imperative to provi...

Dec 12, 202446 min

Ep 145How Metro increased traffic by publishing less

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At Metro, the free London newspaper, the comedown from the traffic era was jarring. At the end of 2022, with Facebook turning off the traffic taps to news and a Google update hitting, overall traffic dropped in half, Metro’s director of audience Sofia ...

Dec 2, 202413 min

Ep 144Mark Penn on the state of the news business

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Stagwell CEO Mark Penn is a veteran of politics. In this discussion, he examines how shifting audience behaviors and trust patterns are reshaping where Americans get their news. The conversation delves into the thorny challenges of advertising on news ...

Nov 19, 202433 min

Ep 143The new search wars

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AI-powered search engines have clawed a foothold in the critical search market that controls distribution on the open web. Media management consuling firm Activate estimates 15 million people are using these answer engines rather than Google, which is ...

Nov 5, 202441 min

Ep 142The evolution of Blockworks

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Blockworks CEO Jason Yanowitz discusses how Blockworks has evolved the company from an events business to podcast network to news provider to becoming a data and information play with media, events and franchises feeding the core data and research busi...

Oct 28, 202443 min

Ep 141Defector’s Jasper Wang on slow growth

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Defector Media, the sports and culture publication launched four years ago by former Deadspin writers, is an example of the mixed picture for the future of the media business. On the plus side, it is a profitable, employee-owned publication with 42,500...

Oct 22, 202455 min

Ep 140Building independent media businesses

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I was joined by Reid DeRamus to discuss the strategic and tactical decisions that go into building an independent media business. We discuss everything from choosing a business model, using the leverage of individual reputation, the value of consistenc...

Oct 15, 20241h 10m

Ep 139AI in the newsroom

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In this Spotlight episode, Josh Brandau, CEO of The Rebooting partner Nota, discusses how AI can be a critical tool for newsrooms in a more-with-less era. osh is a publishing veteran having been CRO and CMO at the Los Angeles Times. That informed his d...

Oct 7, 202448 min

Ep 138Fitt Insider's Anthony Vennare on niche media models

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Fitt Insider, a media brand for the fitness and wellness industry, is a good example of the type of media brand that hits on many of the current trends in the industry: Niche. The fitness and broader wellness industry is a growing area that will only e...

Oct 1, 202454 min

Ep 137How Front Office Sports went from college project to $10m in revenue

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This week, I was joined by one of my favorite media entrepreneurs, Adam White. Adam has built Front Office Sports from a college project to the $10 million in revenue mark, with backing from Jeff Zucker's Redbird IMI. Some of the topics we covered: Why...

Sep 23, 202448 min

Ep 136Why sports are winning

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Adam Mendelsohn operates at the nexus of sports, media, business and culture. Adam is a longtime advisor to LeBron James and his business partner Maverick Carter. He’s a communications advisor to many athletes and companies. And he’s recently rolled ou...

Sep 16, 202450 min

Ep 135Google on trial

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This week marks an important moment in the history of digital advertising as the U.S. Department of Justice presses its case that Google is a monopolist in ad tech. The seeds of this case were planted in 2007, when Google bought DoubleClick, a critical...

Sep 9, 202442 min

Ep 134Scott Messer on publishing’s “pivot to everything”

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Scott Messer is founder of media advisory firm Messer Media and former svp of media at Leaf Group. Scott is in the weeds on the digital ad ecosystem, and he broke down the current state of play for publishers. We discussed why traffic declines are stil...

Aug 19, 202446 min

Ep 133Winning at affiliate

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In a spotlight episode of The Rebooting Show, I spoke with Affinity Global CEO Lavin Punjabi for his view of how publishers adapt their affiliate operations. Affinity operates NucleusLinks, an affiliate operations platform that serves as something akin...

Aug 13, 202452 min

Ep 132A confusing time for mass brands

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On this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I was joined by Ana Andjelic, a veteran brand executive and writer of the Sociology of Business newsletter. I wanted to try an episode with Ana because we focus on different ends of the media ecosystem. Amo...

Aug 5, 20241h 2m

Ep 131How AI will impact publishing

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This week, we are wrapping up a series on The Rebooting Show that examines the role of product at a time of distribution and monetization shifts. The twin themes that emerged are that publishers are increasingly focused on direct relationships with aud...

Jul 29, 202445 min

Ep 130Post-platform product development

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At the Media Product Forum earlier this month, I spoke with Gannett head of product Renn Turiano, Hearst Newspapers chief commercial officer Bridget Williams and Millie Tran, chief digital content officer at the Council on Foreign Relations. The conver...

Jul 22, 202431 min

Ep 129How Dotdash Meredith and The Daily Beast approach product

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At last week’s Media Product Forum, which The Rebooting held in collaboration with WordPress VIP, I had a discussion with Dotdash Meredith chief product officer Adam McClean and The Daily Beast svp of product Samantha Winkelman about their respective p...

Jul 17, 202428 min

Ep 128Bloomberg Media’s audience-focused approach to product

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In a session recorded at The Media Product Forum in NYC, Bloomberg Media global head of product Marissa Zanetti-Crume shares how the media organization takes an audience-focused approach to building products. Marissa highlights the importance of unders...

Jul 16, 202430 min

Ep 127The God metric for audience value

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In a discussion held in Cannes, I sat down with Jason White, chief product and technology officer at The Arena Group, and Johanna Bergqvist, general manager of the managers at The Rebooting partner EX.CO. A part of the conversation that resonated was h...

Jul 11, 202432 min

Ep 126Inside Hearst's New Data Play

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In a session recorded at the Cannes Lions, Hearst Magazines CRO Lisa Ryan and Jen Dorre join the show to discuss how the publisher is responding to the shifts in advertising to performance-focused channels, including retail media and platforms. Skip to...

Jul 2, 202425 min

Ep 125The Math is Mathing

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In this episode recorded at the Dotdash Meredith villa in Cannes, Dotdash Meredith CEO Neil Vogel and Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer discuss the impact AI is set to have on the publishing business. Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 03:04 Chal...

Jun 25, 202445 min