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Ep 174Substack's OnlyFans opportunity
ESubstack's recent funding got a lot of attention for the headline valuation number, as all fundings do, but it's more interesting to examine what its new investment and investors say about the direction of the company. In this episode, I'm joined by An...

Ep 173The return of brand marketing
EOf all the areas AI is poised to overturn, marketing is at the top of the list. In truth, Silicon Valley has long held marketing is low esteem. Google CEO Eric Schmidt once sniffed that brand marketing is "the last bastion of unaccountable corporate sp...

Ep 172Inside the Minnesota Star Tribune’s Revival
ESteve Grove spent over a decade inside Big Tech before returning home to Minnesota to run the Star Tribune. In this episode, we talk about what it takes to rebuild a local newspaper into a modern civic institution. Grove discusses why he left Google, h...

Ep 171An AI grand bargain for publishers
EGenerative AI is upending the long-standing relationship between publishers and the platforms that distribute their content. As tools like ChatGPT and Google’s AI Overviews deliver direct answers, the incentive to click through to publisher sites is di...

Ep 170Inside Vox Media's podcast strategy
EOn this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I spoke with Vox Media president of revenue and growth Ryan Pauley about how the publisher has become a podcasting juggernaut, with Pivot, Decoder and Today Explained franchises. Ryan discusses the “Lego ap...

Ep 169The modernization of Cosmo
EWe held a live recording of The Rebooting Show from the Hearst House in Cannes. I spoke to Cosmopolitan editor-in-chief Willa Bennett and Hearst global CRO Lisa Howard about how Cosmo is evolving from a magazine and website into a multiplatform brand t...

Ep 168The blurring of institutional and independent media
EOn this crossover episode, Semafor’s Ben Smith and Vox Media’s and Business Insider’s Peter Kafka join me to discuss the quickly vanishing divide between institutional media brands and independent upstarts. This is the second part of three part convers...

Ep 167Inside Time's practical AI playbook
EJessica Sibley, CEO of Time, joins to talk about how the 101-year-old media brand is approaching AI with a clear-eyed strategy rooted in business fundamentals. We discuss Time’s shift toward B2B, why it phased out speculative bets like NFTs and no-code...

Ep 166How the WSJ goes beyond ads and subscriptions
EThe Wall Street Journal has many advantages at a perilous time for news publishers. It has a massive paid subscriber base (4.3 million across print and digital). It caters to an affluent audience. It has a storied brand. While AI is threatening to over...

Ep 165Google Zero
EThe landscape for digital publishing is shifting. At the center of this is Google search, the backbone of the open web. Google's embrace of "AI mode" last week was a sign that it will overhaul its approach to search with vast implications for publisher...

Ep 164Henry Blodget on the media business in 2025
EHenry Blodget built Business Insider into one of the few breakout successes of the traffic era. Now, with his new project Regenerator, he’s taking a different path—one that reflects the broader shifts in digital media. We talk about the collapse of pla...

Ep 163Dynamo's Nicholas Carlson's pivot to video
ENicholas Carlson spent nearly a decade building Business Insider into a video powerhouse to complement its webpage model. Now, with his new venture Dynamo, he’s making a clean break from the old model. No articles. No CMS. No pageviews. Dynamo is a vid...

Ep 162Anonymous Banker's bleak view of the media M&A market
EI spoke with Anonymous Banker, an M&A advisor with a front-row view into the market for buying and selling digital media companies. Needless to say, it’s a buyer’s market. AB breaks down the market for digital publishing assets – broadly those with pag...

Ep 161Inside HubSpot's go-direct media playbook
EKyle Denhoff, head of audience development for HubSpot Media, joined me to talk about how HubSpot has built one of the most effective media operations inside a tech company. We discuss how HubSpot’s practical, non-ideological approach to inbound market...

Ep 160The Ankler's Janice Min embraces more with less
EJanice Min joins to talk about building The Ankler into a focused, profitable media brand—and why she believes the future belongs to lean operators, not her past life helming glossy franchises. We talk about her transition from the high-gloss days of T...

Ep 159Spin's IP strategy
EOnce a music magazine that competed with Rolling Stone to define cool in the pre-internet era, Spin is no longer really a magazine. Yes, it has brought the magazine (and Bob Guccione Jr) back, but Spin is an IP company now. It puts on Spin Sessions eve...

Ep 158The Daily Upside's niche strategy
EInn this episode, The Daily Upside's Patrick Trousdale explains how niche products like Advisor Upside and ETF Upside are helping the company move up the value chain. We also talk about paid growth, building a newsroom, and why journalism—not just dist...

Ep 157Semafor's Rachel Oppenheim on stakeholder media
EStakeholder media is how a media company can stay influential and build a real business—especially now, when scaled ad models are in a full race to the bottom. Everyone wants to move from passive audiences to active communities. Stakeholder media is a ...

Ep 156Inside Dude Perfect’s highly profitable business model
EAn enduring challenge of the media business is finding leverage in models. This used to be fairly straightforward. Newspapers had leverage as quasi-local monopolies, Magazines had leverage that allowed Vanity Fair to pay a writer nearly $500k for three...

Ep 155Morning Brew's Robert Dippell on moving into B2B
EMorning Brew CEO Robert Dippell joins me to break down the fundamental differences between consumer and B2B media, why so many publishers underestimate the challenge, and how Morning Brew has built a thriving B2B business alongside its flagship newslet...

Ep 154Adam Ryan on why newsletters are a channel, not a business model
EAdam Ryan, CEO of Workweek, joined me this week to discuss his recent warning that the newsletter sector is overheated. Some points from the conversation: Newsletters are a commodity. The number of newsletters is growing faster than the number of reade...

Ep 153B2B lessons for B2C
ESean Griffey, until recently the CEO of Industry Dive, joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss the big things Industry Dive, and by extension a lot of B2B, got right. Sean was rarely mentioned in the collection of digital media CEOs of the recent de...

Ep 152BuzzFeed's Jonah Peretti on where social media went wrong
EBuzzFeed has always been a company that plays with the boundaries of media, technology, and internet culture. From its early days mastering viral content to its ill-fated attempt to build a sustainable news division, the company has been in a constant ...

Ep 151Ad tech comes to TV
EThe worlds of TV and internet publishing operated separately. The platforms, the dynamics and even the language used was completely different. Linear TV was brand focused and driven by scarcity dynamics while the internet quickly became a direct market...

Ep 150The outlook for AI and publishing in 2025
EThis week, I'm joined by Pete Pachal, a publishing veteran who writes The Media Copilot newsletter that focuses on the intersection of the news business and AI. Pete and I discuss the recent breakthrough with Deepseek, and what it means beyond Silicon ...

Ep 149Axios' Sara Fischer on the alternative media's growth
EThis is set up to be a banner year for alternative media. Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss why institutional media has lost power and influence to an assortment of podcasters, YouTubers and independent...

Ep 148Big Tech in 2025
EOn this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I was joined by Alex Kantrowitz, who writes the Big Technology newsletter and hosts a podcast of the same name, in order to discuss the year ahead in tech platforms. We covered a lot of ground, including: T...

Ep 147The end of affiliate arbitrage
EMike Mallazzo, writer of the reliably excellent Zero Clicks newsletter from Martech Record and a veteran of digital publishing and marketing, joined me on The Rebooting Show to discuss the state of affiliate and what to expect in the category in 2025. ...

Ep 146How Gannett is adapting for an AI era
EIn this live podcast, I spoke to Imtiaz Patel, chief consumer officer; Kristin Roberts, chief content officer; Jason Taylor, chief sales officer; and Renn Turiano, chief product officer. We discussed rethinking the article page, the imperative to provi...

Ep 145How Metro increased traffic by publishing less
EAt Metro, the free London newspaper, the comedown from the traffic era was jarring. At the end of 2022, with Facebook turning off the traffic taps to news and a Google update hitting, overall traffic dropped in half, Metro’s director of audience Sofia ...

Ep 144Mark Penn on the state of the news business
EStagwell CEO Mark Penn is a veteran of politics. In this discussion, he examines how shifting audience behaviors and trust patterns are reshaping where Americans get their news. The conversation delves into the thorny challenges of advertising on news ...

Ep 143The new search wars
EAI-powered search engines have clawed a foothold in the critical search market that controls distribution on the open web. Media management consuling firm Activate estimates 15 million people are using these answer engines rather than Google, which is ...

Ep 142The evolution of Blockworks
EBlockworks CEO Jason Yanowitz discusses how Blockworks has evolved the company from an events business to podcast network to news provider to becoming a data and information play with media, events and franchises feeding the core data and research busi...

Ep 141Defector’s Jasper Wang on slow growth
EDefector Media, the sports and culture publication launched four years ago by former Deadspin writers, is an example of the mixed picture for the future of the media business. On the plus side, it is a profitable, employee-owned publication with 42,500...

Ep 140Building independent media businesses
EI was joined by Reid DeRamus to discuss the strategic and tactical decisions that go into building an independent media business. We discuss everything from choosing a business model, using the leverage of individual reputation, the value of consistenc...

Ep 139AI in the newsroom
EIn this Spotlight episode, Josh Brandau, CEO of The Rebooting partner Nota, discusses how AI can be a critical tool for newsrooms in a more-with-less era. osh is a publishing veteran having been CRO and CMO at the Los Angeles Times. That informed his d...

Ep 138Fitt Insider's Anthony Vennare on niche media models
EFitt Insider, a media brand for the fitness and wellness industry, is a good example of the type of media brand that hits on many of the current trends in the industry: Niche. The fitness and broader wellness industry is a growing area that will only e...

Ep 137How Front Office Sports went from college project to $10m in revenue
EThis week, I was joined by one of my favorite media entrepreneurs, Adam White. Adam has built Front Office Sports from a college project to the $10 million in revenue mark, with backing from Jeff Zucker's Redbird IMI. Some of the topics we covered: Why...

Ep 136Why sports are winning
EAdam Mendelsohn operates at the nexus of sports, media, business and culture. Adam is a longtime advisor to LeBron James and his business partner Maverick Carter. He’s a communications advisor to many athletes and companies. And he’s recently rolled ou...

Ep 135Google on trial
EThis week marks an important moment in the history of digital advertising as the U.S. Department of Justice presses its case that Google is a monopolist in ad tech. The seeds of this case were planted in 2007, when Google bought DoubleClick, a critical...

Ep 134Scott Messer on publishing’s “pivot to everything”
EScott Messer is founder of media advisory firm Messer Media and former svp of media at Leaf Group. Scott is in the weeds on the digital ad ecosystem, and he broke down the current state of play for publishers. We discussed why traffic declines are stil...

Ep 133Winning at affiliate
EIn a spotlight episode of The Rebooting Show, I spoke with Affinity Global CEO Lavin Punjabi for his view of how publishers adapt their affiliate operations. Affinity operates NucleusLinks, an affiliate operations platform that serves as something akin...

Ep 132A confusing time for mass brands
EOn this week’s episode of The Rebooting Show, I was joined by Ana Andjelic, a veteran brand executive and writer of the Sociology of Business newsletter. I wanted to try an episode with Ana because we focus on different ends of the media ecosystem. Amo...

Ep 131How AI will impact publishing
EThis week, we are wrapping up a series on The Rebooting Show that examines the role of product at a time of distribution and monetization shifts. The twin themes that emerged are that publishers are increasingly focused on direct relationships with aud...

Ep 130Post-platform product development
EAt the Media Product Forum earlier this month, I spoke with Gannett head of product Renn Turiano, Hearst Newspapers chief commercial officer Bridget Williams and Millie Tran, chief digital content officer at the Council on Foreign Relations. The conver...

Ep 129How Dotdash Meredith and The Daily Beast approach product
EAt last week’s Media Product Forum, which The Rebooting held in collaboration with WordPress VIP, I had a discussion with Dotdash Meredith chief product officer Adam McClean and The Daily Beast svp of product Samantha Winkelman about their respective p...

Ep 128Bloomberg Media’s audience-focused approach to product
EIn a session recorded at The Media Product Forum in NYC, Bloomberg Media global head of product Marissa Zanetti-Crume shares how the media organization takes an audience-focused approach to building products. Marissa highlights the importance of unders...

Ep 127The God metric for audience value
EIn a discussion held in Cannes, I sat down with Jason White, chief product and technology officer at The Arena Group, and Johanna Bergqvist, general manager of the managers at The Rebooting partner EX.CO. A part of the conversation that resonated was h...

Ep 126Inside Hearst's New Data Play
EIn a session recorded at the Cannes Lions, Hearst Magazines CRO Lisa Ryan and Jen Dorre join the show to discuss how the publisher is responding to the shifts in advertising to performance-focused channels, including retail media and platforms. Skip to...

Ep 125The Math is Mathing
EIn this episode recorded at the Dotdash Meredith villa in Cannes, Dotdash Meredith CEO Neil Vogel and Axios senior media reporter Sara Fischer discuss the impact AI is set to have on the publishing business. Skip to topic: 00:00 Introduction 03:04 Chal...