The Kevin Miller Podcast

Imagine meeting someone new and them asking, “So, who are you?” Instead of, “What do you do?” How would you even answer? Famed author Donald Miller writes about attending a therapy retreat and for the first three days nobody could share what they did vocationally. He said it was excruciating not to be able to tell people he was a successful author, and he realized how much his identity was wrapped around his roles. I never knew myself outside of what I did, until…far too recently. Here I’m going to unpack some thoughts around this concept. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After my conversation with renowned therapist Terri Cole in the last episode, I continue to consider my history of doing too much. That is the title of her new book,Too Much: A Guide To Breaking The Cycle of High-Functioning Codependency. With my nine kids and business and pursuit of personal growth and experiences, many, many people, my kids included, often come to me apologizing for taking my time, as they know I’m “so busy.” And it’s because they have seen me for so long, being too busy. And what I now realize is that I am, primarily because of poor choices. I’ve wanted my cake and to eat it too. I prided myself on being able to do too much because I’m stronger and more capable. How arrogant is that? I’m not promoting shame, but just posing the question that today I view being super busy as a badge of poor choices more than being important or valuable. And I’m pointing fingers. At myself. And there are always exceptions with people victimized and very busy that I have great compassion for. I have some further thoughts on the issue. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Friends, I have discovered…I am a flag flying, High Functioning Codependant. Or rather, I have been living as one. And I’m more than ready to be done. HFC is a new term and a new look at codependency, the concept and term is coined by renowned psychotherapist, Terri Cole, who I have with me in this episode. I believe this discussion will hit many of you, as it did me, who have been living the life of overdoing it. Doing too much. With a good heart and even strong threads from religious backgrounds that ingrained in us the idea of valiantly striving to selflessly give and serve until there is nothing left of you. I bought into it as a kid and lived the life of a hero until I finally hit burnout and bitterness. I’ve been working to crawl out and then Terri comes along with a new message and book, Too Much: A Guide To Breaking The Cycle of High-Functioning Codependency. We get deep and very personal here, and see evidence of HFC in so, so many people I know and respect. And I see it slowly eroding their peace. This is my story as well. Terri has a free toolkit on HFC you can get at terricole.com/hfc and she has some free gifts when you buy the book at hfcbook.com. And you can tune in now to her podcast at The Terri Cole Show. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Outer Banks Fans…my guest here is in the new season 4, just to name drop and grab your attention. One of my daughters is a fan and wanted me to watch it with her, which I have. So the fact I had someone on my podcast that is in Outer Banks, my Dad cred went way up. My guest is Brianna Brown Keen and I’m reposting this show I did with her because the topic of art in your work and manifesting keeps repeating itself in my life. Brianna has a new podcast called Manifesting Your Mission and this week I was her guest. While Brianna is a successful Hollywood Actress, for years now she’s been using her platform to help people define their goals and bring art and self expression into all they do. She realizes the power and dangers of self-expression and dealing with both rejection and acclaim. This is the secret sauce of Hollywood and she’s known the good, bad and the ugly. But I see the most successful people I know, in life overall, being people who have gotten clear on who and how they are and they bring their full self-expression into all facets of life. I find it beautiful and continue striving for more authenticity in my own life. I’d encourage you to search for Manifesting Your Mission in your chosen podcast platform. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the last episode I walked you through X# of chapters in Michael Pollan’s Food Rules, which is a fairly short, fast, and humorous map showcasing what I am most Functional Medicine experts feel is a brilliant showcase of how to eat. What to eat and what not to eat, told by a journalist who has done extensive research and testing and become one of most influential leaders in wellness. This is meant to be brief and profound and leave you with some memorable zingers to improve your diet and share with others. As part of this show, Pendulum is offering 20% off your first probiotic membership, you can get it by ordering it at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of my favorite nutritional guides of all time was not written by a doctor or nutritionist, but by journalist Michael Pollan. The book is called Food Rules and you can read it in about 30 minutes. It’s a distillation of much of Michael’s research into what foods actually give us life and sustain us. To me it’s so blunt you can’t miss it, it’s humorous and it’s profound. The tagline for the book is, “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.” Some chapters are merely a headline, such as rule #2: Don’t eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. Rule 19: If it came from a plant, eat it; if it was made in a plant, don’t. Rule 20: It’s not food if it arrived through the window of your car. So as we’ve been on the topic of supplements and the previous episode where we discussed what we’re putting in our body that it doesn’t need and what are aren’t giving our body that it does need, I’m going to give you a run down of Michael Pollan’s Food Rules, as I find it so helpful for myself and others in giving easily digestible perspective to what foods to eat and now eat. As part of this show, Pendulum is offering 20% off your first probiotic membership, you can get it by ordering it at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the previous episode I talked with Dr Adam Perlman, former Mayo clinic and Stanford doc who is not Chief Medical Officer at Pendulum, where they provide the only akkermansia supplement. I referenced the story of Dr Mark Hyman being ill and finding he had no akkermansia bacteria in him. This is a foundation of Functional Medicine, that so much of our wellness or lack thereof is a result of what we are putting in our body that it doesn’t want, and what we aren’t putting in that it needs. And our propensity is to name and claim what everyone should and shouldn’t put in their body, and this is where we run into trouble. The nutritional supplement and functional medicine industries I’m a fan of is often a culprit here and I want to call out some key issues. As part of this show, Pendulum is offering 20% off your first probiotic membership, you can get it by ordering it at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I saw a video recently from Dr Mark Hyman, the most well known name in Functional Medicine. He was struggling with an aspect of his health, took a test and found he was missing a vital bacteria in his gut called akkermansia. He found no available supplement that provided it so he went to work doing the best he could with a mix of different foods. He was able to improve his levels. However the video I saw was with him and the founder of a biotech company, Pendulum, who is now providing the first akkermansia supplement. I right away asked my friend and doctor, Randy James about this, and he said yes, it’s an exciting new product. So, I’m now taking it. On this show then, I’ve brought on Pendulum’s Chief Medical Officer, Dr Adam Perlman. I’ve known of Dr Perlman before from his work as Director of Integrative Health and Wellbeing at Mayo Clinic, Florida, and as Associate Vice President for Health and Wellness for the Duke University Health System, overseeing Duke Integrative Medicine and the Duke Diet Center. I started off curious about Adam’s personal health journey that led him from working as a medical doctor in traditional medicine to a functional and integrative medicine focus. We hit on some key issues around wellness in America, then I quizzed him about some new supplements that actress Halle Berry is saying are her anchors for health, and doctors I follow and respect like Mark Hyman and Peter Attia are attesting to. Along with my focus on akkermansia, Pendulum also has a GLP-1 probiotic that is having significant results with abating hunger, instead of the new pharma options. We actually didn’t spend too much time on it but they are running ads for it on the show. As part of this show, Pendulum is offering 20% off your first probiotic membership, you can get it by ordering it at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The topic of regrets has come up in multiple conversations recently, so I’m reposting a show I often reference. “No regrets” is an American slogan along with “No Fear” and “Just Do It.” Yet more often than not we don’t, just do it. Nor should we. And having no fear is psychopathic. To me, having no regrets means you have no sorrow for ever hurting anyone or making a mistake. Even if you learned a lot and redeemed some things, I’ve felt regret has a purpose. Regret is simply recognizing sadness or disappointment about something we did that we wish we hadn’t, or we didn’t do and wish we had, and Dan Pink’s research showcases it’s a massive power if we’ll recognize your regrets and learn from them. Not as he says, reject them or wallow in them. This was my second time having Dan on the show. He’s a multi-best selling author, and when I say best selling, I don’t mean one day on an obscure Amazon book category like Amish Romance, but the actual New York Times bestseller list. You’ll likely recognize his books such as A Whole New Mind, Drive, To Sell Is Human, and When. His books have sold millions of copies, have been translated into forty-two languages. He also has a TED talk titled “The Puzzle of Motivation” which has somewhere north of 30 million views. Dan is an author like Brene’ Brown who leads with research, and my muse in this episode is his book, The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward. I asked him back on the show the moment I saw the book title and you’re about to hear me dig in with him on how we can harness regret for our progress, not suffer or run from it. Find The Power of Regret anywhere you get books and connect with Dan at danpink.com Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In my talk a few episodes ago with Alexis Fernandez-Prieksa on changing our mindset we discussed the issue of our beliefs, which is a big topic for me. On one hand, we want things to believe in, as it helps guide and anchor our lives. But on the other hand, I feel beliefs can be incredibly dangerous when we aren’t fully clear and aware of why we have them, why, and if we hold on to them blindly. This isn’t a discourse on religion or theology, but a look at considering our mindset. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I’m continuing on with some key points I got from my talk with Alexis Fernandez-Prieksa, author of the new audio book, How To Chase Change: 30 Days to Master Your Mindset, two episodes ago. A point I pulled out and we dug into was the idea of our limitations. We often hear we’re unlimited, we can do and be anything! I disagree, and so does Alexis who gives great research on how our limitations are a benefit. In her book she has a section on limitations and fears and says, “It’s important to know your limitations.” She has a segment titled, “Work with what you’ve got so you’ve got more to work with.” I’ll break it down for you. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the last episode I talked with neuroscientist Alexis Fernandez-Prieksa, author of the new audio book, How To Chase Change: 30 Days to Master Your Mindset. We hit on the concept made popular by Malcolm Gladwell in his book, Outliers, of how the world’s masters generally put in 10,000 hours. Now, I really appreciate Malcolm and the concept. And, Alexis brought up a point I not only agree with, but I’ve experienced. Simply putting in the hours does not a master make. It’s the kind of hours that matter, and if you put in the right ones you can achieve some mastery far quicker than 10,000 hours. I have a couple personal stories and let’s take a look at Hollywood actors to help make the point. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A 30-Day Guide To Changing Your Mindset. In my search for relevant messages on human potential, I have the top publishers send me their lists of new books. In a list from Simon & Schuster I saw, How To Chase Change: 30 Days to Master Your Mindset, and the title alone was worth a look. What I found intrigued me, starting with the author’s story. If you see Alexis Fernandez-Prieksa on social media, to me she looks more like an actress or social media starlet than a mindset expert. And that’s part of what hooked me. Her personal story of drive I find really interesting. She actually intended to be an actress. But kept coming back to neuroscience and how the brain works, and ultimately got her Masters in neuroanatomy. I think you’ll really enjoy the story at the beginning of our talk. But in this new audio book of her’s, How To Chase Change, she walks us through 30 concepts, and I found some I’d pondered and never heard anyone give focus to. Such as Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 hours concept. Alexis points out that just putting the time into something doesn’t guarantee mastery. Absolutely. And the idea of our limitations. We often hear we’re unlimited, we can do and be anything! I disagree, and so does Alexis who gives great research on how our limitations are a benefit. We got into talking about the concept of having an alter ego, which I’d read about but hadn’t really dug into. This is one of those conversations where I wasn’t quite sure what I’d get, and what I got was some great insight into how to change and upgrade our mind and some big paradigm shifts. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As I wrap up our current discussion on purpose, calling, and destiny, I want to discuss a perspective I see derailing many people. The idea that you need to forge on alone. And be a leader calling others to you. In our social media culture it can feel like everyone is chasing the spotlight. Everyone wants to be, or feels they need to be, the superstar, in order to succeed. To have a platform and followers and an audience. Write a book, star in social media, start a podcast, and get enough attention create an audience and pay your bills. But one, not everyone can be in the spotlight, and two, does being on stage really give you the best odds for success and fulfillment? On this topic I’m bringing back a conversation I had with Tim Schurrer author of, The Secret Society of Success: Stop Chasing The Spotlight And Learn To Enjoy Your Work [And Life] Again. He spent a decade working as COO with Donald Miller and launching Storybrand and then Business Made Simple, and while Don had the spotlight, Tim ran the business and built and led the team that made it all possible. Before that Tim worked at TOMS as well as Apple Inc. He is the host of the Build a Winning Team podcast, where he offers listeners actionable advice as he interviews some of the top leaders in business. We talk about the far greater opportunity for success and fulfillment, outside the spotlight and off the stage. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I feel it can be very daunting to feel that finding your destiny is this epic, solo quest. In some ways I’d say much of the discovery is, as the answer is ultimately somewhere within you, not “out there” somewhere. But the living it out in your day to day world does not need to be a solo venture. You may not to be the leader of the quest of your life. It may be part of a group or organization you get to be a part of. I continue this week’s discussion on purpose, calling, interests and destiny with some stories and then some fun resources to recommend; a few books and some entertaining and thought provoking movies. And I’ll end by sharing an adventure I embark on in a couple days as I continue to evolve in my own destiny. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In looking at our interests, another way of considering our purpose and calling, a key resource is connecting with other people. So we look at conferences, seminars and many types of networking events. Which are geared towards…extroverts. That’s who often hosts them and I find that’s who they tend to benefit most. Which leaves us introverts out in the wind. So what do you do? I feel it’s best to suck it up and you’ll need to make some social efforts, but you can do some things to lessen the challenge and increase your odds. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I think at the end of the day we’d all give up anything, happiness, acclaim, status, just about anything, just to have purpose. Something we cared to wake up to and pursue that had any meaning to us. And I’m going to take that beyond family, which I’ll speak to in a moment. But I find we often handicap our thoughts towards purpose and calling by feeling it must be huge. It must be super altruistic. It must be saving the world. In the last episode I talked with Scott Harrison, celebrity humanitarian who has taken 1 out of 6 people in the world having access to clean water down to only 1 out of 10. Amazing. Truly. Yet the greatest benefit of purpose is not what your purpose does for other people, but what your purpose does for you. I didn’t have Scott on the show to talk about the people he saved. I had him on the show to talk about how he saved himself. This is about you. Anyone you help is just collateral benefit. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I bring you a great story of…drive. And the fruition I find most people experience, where we start off in life driven by our base desires and find the shallowness and meaninglessness of it and wonder if this is all life has to offer. I’ve known of Scott Harrison for many years, but never got the chance to dig into his story and drive myself. Scott is founder of charity:Water and has literally put a dent in the global clean water crisis. He’s been so successful, not only do celebrities want to hang with him, but he’s become a celebrity himself. Scott’s story began by abandoning his faith-based upbringing to spend almost 10 years as a nightclub promoter in New York City. He had great success in driving other people to drink themselves into oblivion and made the nightclubs a lot of money. He was literally paid to party and he imbibed to the fullest degree with drugs, alcohol, sex and everything that goes along with it. As his soul began to dry up, he took a sabbatical to volunteer on a hospital ship as a photojournalist. While in Africa he witnessed people drinking out of a cesspool of water he wouldn’t have used to clean his glasses. He returned to New York City two years later and put his promotional skills to work to found the non-profit organization charity: water in 2006. Scott has not only made a global impact for clean water but today he’s changing how we view and do charity at large. Following is my conversation with Scott to understand what has driven him. You’ll hear his story and his infectious drive for his chosen devotion, clean water. You may not want to devote yourself to clean water, but this show will increase your drive to devote yourself to what you feel called to. You can get Scott’s full story in his book, Thirst: A Story of Redemption, Compassion, and a Mission to Bring Clean Water to the World. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We live in a world led by personas. It’s interesting as the public outcry is for authenticity while we feast on the curated and highly edited images and videos on social media. At the core I feel we fear being authentic as we think we’ll be exposed and lose all credibility as we have relationship challenges, health challenges, mental challenges, financial challenges and more. So in this episode I have a story of someone with the perfect picture, who finally let it go and found not only freedom for herself, but her avenue to help others with dramatic success. Tana Amen was a world-renowned health and fitness expert. A model. She was the picture of health, beauty, and success. Then she found herself up on stage to speak to a room full of addicts who she was critically judging for who and how they were. And she realized they were judging her too. It was a radical paradigm shift as she decided to drop the facade, come clean, and admit she had come from where they were and maybe worse. Really worse. In a moment you’ll gain insight into her sordid past. But it brings us to today where she is Vice President of the renowned Amen Clinics with her husband Daniel Amen. Tana is still every bit the picture of health and beauty, but now at an even greater level of success because her gritty past makes her success far more glorious. If you’ve had anything less than a perfect, shiny life, you will gain much from Tana’s message. If you are intrigued by our discussion I encourage you to get Tana’s book, The Relentless Courage of a Scared Child: How Persistence, Grit, and Faith Created a Reluctant Healer. It is a powerful journey of someone who had every reason to fail and be overcome. But as you’ll hear, she made a different choice. You can also find more at relentlesscourage.com Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My muse this week has been celebrity sports coach George Mumford who worked with the likes of NBA superstar Kobe Bryant. A key concept he worked with Kobe on was to “do the activity for the activity itself, not the result.” Friends, this has not been the guiding light of my life. I’ve historically looked at all I do as a means to an end. As a pro cyclist I often felt I was enduring 99 miles of racing just to get to the last mile where we went full tilt for the finish line. I unfortunately did a lot of my life like this. And what George coached Kobe in was to enjoy playing basketball. Enjoy it for himself. Taking shots and making baskets is part of playing, so of course do that, but see the glory in the overall playing of the game. And what I’ve realized is if you take this approach, you are guaranteed to win. In my work, if I enjoy the activity, I win every day. Whether I make a billion dollars or become the most influential podcaster in the human potential movement. If I enjoy being a father, I win everyday regardless of the trials of being a parent. If I enjoy my exercises and adventures and grocery shopping and cooking, then I’ve won already. Though as George knew and Kobe found out, the more you enjoy the overall activity, the better your perform as well and it’s what helped Kobe Bryant become one of the greatest players of all time. It’s a win-win proposition. Drive with me a moment to consider how you can do this in your day to day life. Right now. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vacation is generally about pleasure and fun and feeding your senses with whatever flavor of happiness you like. So let me begin by stating I’m not giving a Pollyanna look at everyday life and making it equal the happiness of vacation. But the joy underneath vacation time is something different. It’s not the waves or rides or food or drink but the expectation of good things. This is what I see in the most successful. Truly successful. People. In my recent show with celebrity sports coach George Mumford he asked, “How can we move from bracing for failure to waiting for fulfillment?” And it brings up our worldview. Our expectations. Drive with me a moment. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the last show I had on celebrity athletic coach George Mumford who worked with the literal legends of the NBA, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal. His message in his book, Unlocked: Embrace Your Greatness, Find the Flow, Discover Success, is much about finding your true greatness. But are we all destined for greatness? Is it possible for all of us? Do we even want that? And then, what exactly is greatness? How do we define it? I’m not looking for a message that just makes you feel good and blows sunshine up your butt. I’m not the motivational speaker claiming everyone is limitless and can be a rockstar. Let’s take a sober look at the concept of so-called greatness and what we expect, believe in and and even want for ourselves. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Get 20% off your first probiotic membership order at pendulumlife.com/drivesyou Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I grew up focused on performing. I’m an introvert who doesn’t care for the stage. The performing I’m talking about is being able and capable and winning and achieving and being limitless with no weaknesses. I found a lot of achievement, and heartache, by treating myself as a tool to achieve things. And I missed my potential. Being the fullness of me. In my quest, I’ve found George Mumford. George has worked with basketball legends Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, and countless other NBA players, pro athletes in many sports, Olympians, executives, and artists. George doesn’t work with them to perform better. He works with them to be more of themselves. To be their authentic selves. To play for themselves and score without trying to score. To be the best expression of themselves. And from this, they found more success on the court, but more importantly, more resonance with their own soul. It’s a compelling offering. Find your best success by connecting with your heart. George wrote a book, Unlocked: Embrace Your Greatness, Find the Flow, Discover Success. You can find him at georgemumford.com Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I keep finding people wrapped up in feeling they must find this elusive, one-thing, holy grail calling on their life. I wanted to relieve the tension and pressure and showcase that our ultimate calling or purpose is not so confined. It’s something everyone has and it’s something you fuflil in all the roles of your life. This frees you up from thinking you have one, special application to apply this calling to. And what is a true calling anyway? I bring you on one of the world’s premier experts on the subject, especially as it relates to your vocation, job, career, business…however you label it. That expert is my Dad, Dan Miller. Bestselling author and renowned career coach of 48 Days To The Work & LifeYou Love. Finding your calling and supporting it in your work is what he devoted his life to. He left this earth eight months ago and left a legacy of helping people realize their calling. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is driving many people. Most of us. Is a lack of resolving. It’s politically correct to validate everyone’s pain and call it trauma. So on one hand you have an adult who suffered from severe abuse as a child, and on the other hand an adult who is still suffering from not making the football team. One was life threatening and the other was ego threatening. Making that statement will sound minimizing and likely gain me some criticism, but my point is to elevate the issue of resolution. The difference we find between the two is only the individuals ability to resolve the hurt. I know a lot of grown adults, me included, who have not had what they feel are big traumas, but they exist in an unsettled spirit. Often frustrated. Dissatisfied. Angry or sad. And they don’t know why. I posit that the issue is not what happened to us and judging it’s validity, but simply, have we, can we, resolve it? Drive with me a moment… Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Don’t be controlled by your emotions.” Think about that statement. It says to not be controlled by your emotions. As a culture and specifically with men over the span of history, I believe we misinterpreted it in two ways; 1) don’t show your emotions, and 2) let’s go further and label it manly and masculine and strong to just not have emotions. So we disdain showing and being emotional. And women we’ve deemed are more emotional and we’ve used their propensity to express emotions as weakness. Another poor interpretation that has hurt us all. I spent most of my life validating myself for being calm under pressure. There are some acute moments of tragedy where this helped. Then there is the other 99% of the time where I now look back and see what a coward I’ve been. Drive with me a moment to explore How To Manage & Not Suppress Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I spent most of my life ignorant of my emotions. Only to find that they were there, and in abundance. And I wasn’t ignoring them, I had just become a pro athlete in avoiding them. And I contorted and distorted my life and psyche around them as a result. As I found more emotional intelligence however, I just became aware of how terrified I was of my emotions.. It made no sense, but I couldn’t escape my irrational fear of emotions that, while they were not life threatening to me physiologically, they seemed to be life threatening to me psychologically. I’ve been fervently at work on this, but just two weeks ago I received a great gift from a guest on the show. I’m very familiar with cold plunging. Immersing yourself in frigid water. And I’ve learned how to make peace with it. It’s not comfortable, but I’ve learned how to find comfort in myself, even as my skin rebels at the cold water. Emotional cold plunging is the same and I want to give this gift to you. Drive with me a moment. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It seems everyone these days is anxious. On edge. Stressed. Even the seemingly chill guy is simmering under his skin with an overworked nervous system. That would be me. We medicate the symptoms and have just culturally accepted an anxious life. I’m not ok with it. Being at peace to me is power. It’s wisdom. And those at peace are who I want to be around. I don’t want to numb my nervous system, I want to master it. So I’ve brought you two masters. Karden Rabin is a nervous system medicine practitioner and an expert in the fields of trauma and psychophysiological disorders. Over the last fifteen years he has combined principles of bodywork, brain retraining, and somatic trauma therapies and helped thousands of clients across the globe heal from chronic pain and illness. Karden is the Co-Founder of SOMIA and a regular contributor to Bessel Van Der Kolk’s Trauma Research Foundation. Jennifer Mann is a mind-body practitioner, yoga instructor, and functional movement therapist, and has battled severe chronic fatigue. She began researching alternative approaches to healing chronic fatigue and was able to completely recover using trauma-informed, mind-body healing. She now leads a community of over 100,000 followers on Instagram and is the Co-founder of SOMIA which has helped thousands of people from all over the world regulate their nervous systems. Friends, this was an incredible discussion as I sat at the feet of Karden and Jennifer as a student to learn. Really learn. Karden actually led me through a new therapy he’s using with great success called, “Emotional Cold Plunging.” Karden and Jenn have compiled their research into a new book titled, “The Secret Language of the Body: Regulate Your Nervous System, Heal Your Body, Free Your Mind.” I studied it and we covered a lot in this talk. As usual, this isn’t an interview. It’s a class and it’s training and it’s vital to your wellness and potential. Find Karden and Jenn at somiainternational.com. Drive with me now to learn how to master your nervous system and find the peace you deserve, and can achieve. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. If you're concerned about OCD, visit NOCD.com to schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following is a story that is far more common than we realize. A childhood trauma that directs our lives, for better and/or worse. When I first started focusing on drive and researching for my book, this is one of the earlier conversations I had with an influential person, digging into their personal story of drive. Ashley got a Master’s degree from King’s College London’s Department of War Studies, as well as a Master’s in Psychology from University of Santa Monica. She started her career in counterterrorism under the Obama administration and learned speech writing while working for the government. She went on to write a bestselling book that put her on the map as an influencer, YOU TURN: Get Unstuck, Discover Your Direction, Design Your Dream Career. Today she runs the Wise Whisper Agency where she helps people create their signature talk and get on big stages. There is the fancy, public bio. My interest however was in her deeper story. The one where at age 10 her Dad had a panic attack about a business turned bad and he exclaimed to Ashley that money was going to kill him. Right then and there Ashley vowed, “I’m going to make a lot of money so that life is easy and I can save my dad from dying." I pulled on this thread and we discussed how it influenced her lifelong quest to save and rescue and help people. What is true to who she is and how much was errant from that early experience with her dad? It will bring up your motives and which are authentic to you and which are influenced by life experiences that could take us down a wrong path. You can find Ashley at ashleystahl.com and tune in to her You Turn podcast. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A popular topic when I’m being interviewed is my stance on drive. I believe every human has as much drive in them as anyone else. And further, that we are all driven. We are driven to be where we are and who we are. I’ve become known for stating that drug addicts are some of the most driven people on earth. But they are not driving forward, toward something positive and productive and fulfilling. All of us have all the drive we need and we are driven. But at any time, or in certain areas of your life, you may find yourself feeling you are in reverse. Or in park. Or stuck in first gear. It’s not a matter of having enough drive or being driven, but direction. Drive with me a moment Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In my continual research into human potential it’s ever more revealed to me that we are inherently most driven to protect ourselves. So when we look to our general behavior, this is what we find. Efforts to feel secure. I feel this is the root to our cynical nature, which was the focus of the previous episode featuring Stanford professor of psychology, Dr Jamil Zaki. His new book is Hope For Cynics and as I ponder our discussion I’m looking at our core beliefs and and making an effort to shift them. Cynicism at the root is distrust, and as a culture we seem less trusting than ever, because our trust is lacking. Trust in the government, in commerce, in faith and humanity. Much of it is relevant. But is it really keeping us safer than hope. Skeptical hope, but hope. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you look at social media influencers, news headlines and commentary, late night TV hosts and a high percentage of the so called informed public, you find a consistent thread of cynicism. Cynicism is a general distrust and lack of faith or hope in humanity and it’s gotten to be viewed as clever and intelligent to take a cynical view of life, and naive to be hopeful and optimistic. My guest today has found opposing data. Dr. Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He trained at Columbia and Harvard, studying empathy and kindness in the human brain and his interest is in how we can learn to connect better. You won’t find Jamil much on social media, as his years have been spent teaching at Stanford and studying humanity and he’s put his findings in a brand new book titled, Hope for Cynics: The Surprising Science of Human Goodness. Jamil attests that is in fact cynicism that is naive and relates it to a trail lawyer who ignores half the evidence. Jamil says, “Cynicism is not a radical worldview, it’s the status quo. The norm. It’s the “common man” and it’s a seductive worldview that is dark and simple. He says this with an educated and compassionate spirit, as you’ll hear, and does not call for blind trust but rather, hopeful skepticism where we practice an open mind with discernment and constructive faith. Find Jamil at ssnl.stanford.edu Find Jamil's book, Hope For Cynics, and more about Jamil at https://www.jamil-zaki.com/. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I really appreciate taking a topic where we think we know what drives us, and discovering the motives are actually coming from somewhere else. It allows us to come into better alignment and realize more benefit. In this case, the concept is kindness. We think we should be kind because it’s the right thing to do. And if we’re kind, then others will reciprocate and be kind to us in return. It’s usually under the “should” category of life. We “should” be kind. Especially to those we perceive as not so kind. Be kind to the person who cut you off in traffic. Be kind to the surly person behind the coffee counter. Be kind to your spouse who seems grumpy to you. When I’m interviewed on other podcasts, I’m often asked who some of my favorite guests have been or the most profound topics. I often cite Shaunti Feldhahn. Shaunti is a social researcher and best-selling author who investigates life-changing truths about relationships. I first got to know her through her book, “The Kindness Challenge – Thirty Days To Improve Any Relationship.” In it she uncovers that whether we thrive depends far more on how we choose to treat others than on how we ourselves are treated. The path to our happy place starts with one choice: whether or not to be kind. Especially when we really don’t want to be. The punchline? Being kind benefits us far more than who we choose to be kind to. I had this conversation with Shaunti nearly seven years ago and here I am still talking about it today. As I keep bringing her message back up, I’m re-publishing our talk so you can hear Shaunti’s full research. Find her at shaunti.com Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We spend our childhood being labeled as to who we are. Then we continue into adulthood thinking of ourselves as who we are, like we are a fixed object. And yet when we look back to ourselves five or ten or 15 years ago, we often hardly recognize or remember that person. We have this concept of finding and figuring ourselves out. Anything that is growing, changes. While there may be some continuity in how you look and how you tend to think, who you are today will be incredibly different in the years to come. Understanding this helps you be more adaptive to change and have more openness in your existence. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This show is called What Drives You. My book is called What Drives You. Because what drives you becomes your life. If we’re not getting what we want out of life, we are unaware of what is really driving us. Happiness, for instance. As a podcast host I am inundated with self-improvement books and personalities. There have been more books with “happiness” in the title than I can count in recent years. Why? It sells. We all think we just want to be happy. But I don’t see our cultural decisions supporting this and feel it’s an errant goal. I find what we want even more than happiness is security. But even more than that, is meaning. To help us consider this, let’s look at the jobs we choose and the movies we watch. Getting more clear on what you’re really driven to achieve will help you achieve it and will showcase why your current efforts may not be producing the success you expect. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever struggled with feeling a twinge of guilt for your desire to continually grow and change? Wondering if you should just feel content and grateful for where you are and it’s selfish to desire and want more? Especially if you are mainly surrounded by others who seem to just be ok with things as they are? I’m actually not going to justify and make a case to help you feel better. But I will ask some questions and give you some reframing to think about. Such as, do you grow because you are discontent with who you are and what you have now? Or is changing and evolving just part of your natural DNA? Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I hear from more and more people who just enjoy the journey of personal growth. They almost feel guilty about it, especially if they are mostly around others who seem content to just maintain life. They wonder why they have this insatiable appetite for more insight about themselves and life. Of course, I resonate with them. Over the past years I’ve realized that what I value most is not going after any specific goals, but just always having a goal to go after. My experience is most goals we achieve are anti-climactic if we think they alone will finally satisfy us. And again, I’m brought back to realizing what gives me the most fulfillment is having goals to go after, every day, all the time, so that…I enjoy the daily journey of life. It’s the overall hope of discovering some new insight about myself or life that I can apply and find joy in. And then continue the next day on the same path to a new, inspiring destination. I wanted to talk more about it and invited my best friend, Randy James, to join me. Randy is a medical doctor and Functional Medicine expert who you can find at truelifemedicine.com. What drew me to him 15 years ago, I now realize, was how we resonated in a desire to pursue personal growth. Randy is insatiable with new information and always excited to talk about a new idea and concept. Though not just for the sake of the idea. He’s excited about a new insight he can apply to his own life or the life of a patient, his family, or his friends. Like me. Following is our conversation about this concept of growth and the joy in the growth, even more than the goal. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The focus of this episode is twofold. One is to look at how you are driven to show appreciation to people. How you show love and your motives behind your efforts. The other is some ideas for helping drive people to you. My muse is gift giving. The very concept has a lot of baggage around it. A lot of shoulds and expectations. Our focus here is using gift giving as a tool in your work, but we hit on the personal side as well. This is a message that forever changed my ideas on gift giving, and this conversation was actually recorded a few years ago. My guest is John Ruhlin. John is younger than I am. He has younger kids. And a few weeks ago I got word that on a family vacation, he collapsed, and was never revived. He died. In the wake of his death I saw the outpouring of people whose lives he impacted with his message of gift giving in love, and the heart behind it, and how it benefits us. John was devoted to helping people increase and expand their relationships, with radical generosity. He viewed gift giving as a form of love and was an incredibly influential leader in this space. That’s what people felt from John. Love. It was authentic, and he had specific tactics to spread it. That’s the conversation you are about to hear. So…in memory of John Ruhlin, and in honor of the love I know you want to spread in your own world, let’s drive together for a bit to discuss The Art Of Gift Giving & How To Be Memorable. Find Johns offerings at thegiversedge.com Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I’ve admittedly put my focus on the work we do on the actual product and service we help deliver. No matter what you do, at the end of the rope is a product or service that is sold. To find fulfillment in your work, my experience is that it’s of utmost importance that you resonate with and support that end product or service. Or…is it? I find it hard to justify not having respect for what you help provide. But I also see how important your work environment is and your actual role. Which is more important? As I think about myself, I can almost make an argument that the environment and tasks are more important. Drive with me a moment to ponder this. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yes, I’m talking about the TV series. With my family life I don’t get to see a lot of TV, but I really like a good story that moves me. And I like Kevin Costner as an actor. So I watched the original Yellowstone series. It was hard at first, I didn’t like any characters. But then it drew me in. So now I’ve watched the prequels, 1883 and 1923, and really appreciate them. 1883 has some beautiful character stories in my opinion. The last episode of this podcast was with Dr. Tessa West, who is a Professor of Psychology at New York University and her new book is, Job Therapy: Finding Work That Works For You. We talked about the feelings around work and how it’s in many ways a more devoted marriage than with our spouse. Looking at work, I’m concerned that in the tech and AI age of 2024, we are still stuck in a work mentality from 1883 where we just go slog it out to hunt and gather and look at work and our life as a chore. And it deprives us of the spark in our life that can light us up. If we look at work as a necessary evil, we’ll make decisions to create that reality. If we look at work as having evolved from mere hunting and gathering to also what we get to contribute to the world, we create that reality. Drive with me a moment to look at reframing what you expect from your work. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are all going to work. For most of our lives. We applaud people for their anniversaries. “Oh, you’ve been married for 10 years, congratulations.” Or the big celebration you have for a couple who has been married for 50 years! Well, most of us will work for nearly 50 years. I had my first consistent job at about 13, started my first business at 15, and my intent is to live till I’m 90 and work till then. That would put me at 75 years of working. You will also spend more time with your work than your spouse if you don’t include sleeping. So in essence, the greatest marriage of your life will be your work. What kind of relationship will you have with this primary spouse? My guest is Dr. Tessa West, who is a Professor of Psychology at New York University where she is a leading expert on the science of social relationships. She has over 100 academic publications and is a regular contributor to the Wall Street Journal. Her work has been covered by Scientific American, the New York Times, Financial Times, The Guardian, CNN, CNBC, ABC World News, TIME, Bloomberg, HBR, Fast Company, and the US Supreme Court. Her first book was Jerks at Work and now she’s published a book titled, Job Therapy: Finding Work That Works For You. In the book she posits the comparison between our work and a marriage. She says at the core we have deep, intimate feelings about our work and it is a primary ingredient in our self image and overall drive for life. This is where I dug in with Tessa. With all the focus on the topic of work I’ve had, I’ve never really gone down the trail of looking to our feelings and emotions and core relationship with it. This conversation will forever change how I view my relationship with my work. Find Tessa at tessawestauthor.com Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is at the heart of what drives you. Many of you. Most of you. And I’ve been there too. You are driving along every day after things you haven’t really agreed with. And then you wonder why you don’t feel motivated and you’d rather just scroll social media, eat, drink, numb or entertain. You want to tune into stories that make you feel cause you aren’t getting many good feels from your current life. You are in good company. And much of it isn’t because anything is specifically wrong or against you. You are just somewhat aimless. And for those of you who are pretty driven, you may be tempted to say this isn’t you. Stop for a minute. You may be inspired to push through your day, but how fulfilled do you feel? Not just happy here and there, but really fulfilled? At peace. This is my story too. Drive with me a bit as I come to you with some contemplation from my back deck at 9,200 feet up in the Rockies. Let’s think together a bit as we hear the birds and the wind play in the Aspens. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I’m looking at how true friendships can be vital for your drive. I’m sensitive to this topic, as we know culturally, very few people have close and consistent friendships today. We are more isolated than ever and more and more people have never experienced a real, true friendship. As an introvert, I want to offer a few thoughts on the value of friendships, and some ideas on where to find and how to foster them for your benefit. Again. I’m not the socialite. I’m happy to enjoy my own company. And being with anyone is somewhat of an effort for me. And yet I’ve learned the value of investing in, nurturing, and having close friendships. Hey, got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To talk about what drives you…your body transports you. All of you. It is your vehicle. And what you eat fuels it. I was at someone’s home recently and looked around their kitchen. What I saw motivated me to peek in their fridge and freezer. Yeah, I’m that guy. And what I found was hardly any real food. It was all FDA approved edible substances. But nothing with any nutritional value. I’ve come to label myself as a sensualist. I am highly motivated to please my senses. I’m no prude in any way and a life of eating raw veggies with no taste is not a life to me. But for my senses to all be working and enjoying this beautiful life, I’ve got to fuel them properly. A common phrase in the health and wellness world is that food is your best medicine. Well, medicine is usually what we take to treat a disease or illness. I see food as the anti-medicine and am striving to eat in a way that promotes my health so I don’t need any medicine. Let me try and simplify the idea for you. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I have an admission to make. I’ve been a lifetime advocate of making a difference in and with your work. Making an impact in the world. I viewed work like it’s a ministry to save the world. And I didn’t connect with people who primarily worked just to make money. I negatively judged it, to be honest. And yet today I’m friends with plenty of people who work to provide a basic product or service, and find joy in making money. What I now realize is important, is your spirit behind it, either way. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not everyone is driven to be an entrepreneur, but sometimes we may need to go down this path in order to have freedom to do what we think is best. My best friend, Randy James, is a medical doctor. When he started he made a pact with God that he’d be a doctor, but he never wanted to be a businessman. Following is a story of why he reluctantly went into business for himself, and now testifies that having to learn the business side of his vocation has helped him be a better doctor and serve his patients better. I have always loved being an entrepreneur, but I’m not a naturally gifted businessman overall. I’m not great at running a business, I just want to do my art, and I feel many of you will resonate with just that. There is a product or service or message you care deeply about, and don’t see how to deliver through traditional channels…as an employee. So you’re looking to set out as an entrepreneur, or you already have. I recorded this show to commiserate with you, and give you some inspiration and ideas on reconciling what you do and how you do it. I also ask for your grace, we had an audio malfunction we totally missed, and Randy’s mic wasn’t working. Our audio team worked to make things as clear as possible, but you’ll notice a stark difference in the audio quality when he talks. I think you’ll find Randy’s story worth the slight audio error. Find Randy and his team at truelifemedicine.com Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I continue to concern myself with the concept of retirement, and the concern isn’t just for those who are older in age. It’s completely relevant for my kids just leaving home and entering into their adult lives. I find so very few people retiring who are leading fulfilling lives. At the end of the day, we just want purpose, the subject of my last episode. People generally retire because they were mainly working for a paycheck and they just want to be done. The motives that provide fulfillment in our later years of retirement age are the same motives that give us a good life today. The following discussion was not a retirement focus so much as just asking how motives help and hurt as our life progresses. What came up was the profound value of having work you you find purpose in. This recording was with my Dad, about three years ago. I had been in Florida for an extended time and I took the opportunity to sit down with my Dad, Dan Miller of 48 Days To The Work You & Life You Love fame, join me. He was 73 and woke every morning excited about what he wanted to accomplish in the next 20 years, while many of his peers were just bored. Passing the time. The stats show people who retire decline in health and well being due to a lack of purpose. Which again makes this an episode relevant for anyone of any age to listen to. My Dad’s 20 year plan was cut short by a cancer diagnosis that saw him leave this earth just seven months ago. But what a gift that he was working at what he cared about, to the very end. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply in minutes at meetfabric.com/WHATDRIVESYOU. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode I’m looking at the connection between lack of purpose and increased negativity. Is there a correlation between idle time and negativity bias? Obviously I think there is or I wouldn’t pose the question. I have an admitted positivity bias. But when I step back and look at the big picture of our culture, I can’t help but see connections, and it gives me cause to consider how my own drive for purpose helps curb my propensity to not only think negatively, but even feel negatively. The past year of my life has been one of the most challenging in regards to hardships and challenges in my immediate and extended family, so I’m not coming to this while sitting on my yacht drinking martinis. But through it my outlook on life has increased in positivity. In beauty. In awe even. Does hardship increase negativity, or just, lack of purpose? Drive with me a moment. Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I’m going from our values to today’s cultural issues. Considering your values which we covered in the previous episode will help you better understand your own position on the issues. Or if you even want one. I argue that it’s near impossible to have a concrete stance or even in-depth knowledge of every issue. Why? There are too many and if anything, I question someone who has a stance on every issue and I’d argue that while they may have some knowledge and have developed a position, they aren’t taking adequate time to actually participate and be giving value to any or many of them. Which makes them a critic with no value instead of someone intelligent, responsible, and “in the know.” I bump up enough literal issues within my own family and town and in order to engage, I can’t tend to everyone. Can you? Got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode Social Credit Report: The Qualities Everyone Wants To Know About Each Other. With anyone you care about or are interested in caring about or relying on, you want to know what they are about. What they value. Which is ultimately, what you can count on. Think about it like a social credit report. A credit report tries to measure if you can be counted on financially. People try to seek out our values as a social credit report. They want to know what they can trust. We generally want to know if we can trust someone with the general morals and ethics we deem important. But it’s not all about morality necessarily. If you want a drinking or partying buddy, then you want to know if you can trust that at most any time, they will join you. If you like fighting at bars then you are looking for…a certain set of values. If you want someone to join you on a moments notice for a sketchy, unplanned and relatively unsafe adventure out in the mountains, you can count on me. But knowing that, do you want to do business with me? These are the things we wonder about each other. Are you clear about your own values? That’s the show. Hey, got a comment or question about an episode? Want to ask a question about your drive? Email me. I don’t want to just talk to you here, I want to talk with you. [email protected]. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Sign up for AromaTru's Insider Club and today you'll receive a FREE Waterless Oil Diffuser and a FREE lemon eucalyptus oil - that's over $200 in savings. Head to aromatruorganics.com/kevin to take advantage of this exclusive offer. Kajabi is offering a free 30-day trial to start your business if you go to Kajabi.com/kevin Get 20% off any AquaTru purifier today! Visit AquaTru.com and enter code "KEVIN" at checkout. Go to Quince.com/drives for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Go to cozyearth.com/driven and use code DRIVEN for an exclusive 40% discount Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices