The Chad & Cheese Podcast

In this lively episode, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Quincy Valencia, SVP of Innovation at Harri, at the HR Tech conference. Known for her no-nonsense approach, Quincy offers her candid insights on the overhyped AI trend, emphasizing that companies should focus on the outcomes AI can deliver rather than getting lost in technical jargon. She highlights how AI has evolved since ChatGPT’s launch, moving beyond basic functionalities to transformative real-time data applications in industries like hospitality. As she discusses the future of HR technology, Quincy predicts continued shifts toward integrated ecosystems and strategic partnerships, suggesting that adaptability and innovation are critical for survival. The conversation wraps up with her advice for cautious companies exploring AI: prioritize business results over the technology’s novelty. Chapter Timecodes 1. 0:00 - Podcast Intro 2. 2:31 - Meet Quincy Valencia 3. 5:46 - AI in HR 4. 10:31 - Real-World AI Applications 5. 4:56 - Adapting in a Changing Market 6. 20:11 - Advice for Newcomers 7. 23:31 - Future of HR Tech 8. 27:16 - Quincy’s HR Tech Wishlist 9. 30:46 - Wrap-Up

Live from the Shaker Recruitment Marketing Green Room at RecFest in Nashville! In the podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman, dive into the evolving world of recruitment with Joel Lalgee, founder and lead recruiter at The Realist Recruiter. Lalgee, who transitioned from an agency recruiter to building his personal brand online during COVID, shares insights on the recruitment landscape. He emphasizes the importance of authenticity in recruitment, advocating for recruiters to be more human in their approach. The discussion highlights how companies are increasingly turning to social media for recruitment, stressing the creation of relatable content and the strategic use of social media influencers to align with company culture and target audience preferences. They explore the future of recruitment, predicting a rise in independent recruiters and Recruitment Process Outsourcing (RPO) models that leverage technology. Lalgee outlines his plans for 2025, focusing on content creation and establishing an RPO model, alongside discussing effective strategies for content distribution across various platforms to engage audiences more effectively.

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including Snoop Dogg's decision to turn down a $100 million offer from OnlyFans, the ongoing legal challenges faced by Indeed, and Upwork's launch of a new AI feature named Uma. They also share personal updates, travel plans, and insights into the fantasy football league, while providing shoutouts to industry figures and discussing market trends. Takeaways Snoop Dogg's decision reflects his brand awareness. Compliance companies can be surprisingly profitable. Travel can take a toll on health and well-being. Indeed faces legal challenges that could set precedents. Upwork's new AI features aim to enhance user experience. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Shoutouts 02:49 - Industry Insights and Market Trends 06:04 - The Power of Compliance and Legalities 09:12 - Travel Plans and Personal Updates 11:56 - Fantasy Football Roundup 15:00 - Indeed's Legal Challenges 18:05 - Upwork's New AI Features 20:53 - Snoop Dogg's $100 Million Decision 33:57 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes Keywords Chad and Cheese Podcast, Snoop Dogg, Indeed, Upwork, Fantasy Football, Market Trends, Compliance, Legal Challenges, Industry Insights, Personal Updates

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, Chad and Cheese chat with Maria Colacurcio, CEO at Syndio, Alim Dhanji, CHRO, TD SYNNEX, and Ana White, EVP and Chief People Officer at Lumen to discuss the critical issues surrounding workplace equity, the importance of data-driven approaches, and the impact of recent legal changes on DEI initiatives. The conversation highlights the need for transparency, the role of AI in reducing bias, and real stories of how pay equity adjustments have positively affected employees' lives. Achieving equity is an ongoing journey that requires commitment from leadership and a culture of inclusion. ENJOY!

In this episode, Zeke Hernandez, a professor at the Wharton School, discusses the complexities of immigration in the U.S., addressing both legal and illegal immigration, the economic contributions of immigrants, and the need for reform in immigration policies. The conversation also hits head-on the challenges faced by high-skilled immigrants and the implications of America's outdated immigration system. Prof Zeke discusses the multifaceted impact of immigration on the labor market, economy, culture, and job creation in the U.S. Prof Zeke addresses the historical context of cultural assimilation and offers strategies for engaging in difficult conversations about immigration. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Zeke Hernandez 03:02 - The Truth About Immigration 06:10 - Understanding Legal vs. Illegal Immigration 09:11 - Investment Contributions of Immigrants 12:01 - The Need for High-Skilled Immigration 14:52 - America's Brain and Muscle Drain 17:49 - The Impact of Immigrants on Job Markets 20:56 - The Impact of Immigration on the Labor Market 24:53 - Economic Growth and Immigrant Contributions 26:48 - Challenges of the Current Immigration System 28:53 - Cultural Assimilation and Historical Perspectives 31:00 - Navigating Difficult Conversations on Immigration 34:43 - The Economic Consequences of Mass Deportation Keywords immigration, economy, legal immigration, illegal immigration, investment, job creation, high-skilled workers, brain drain, muscle drain, Zeke Hernandez, immigration, labor market, economic growth, cultural assimilation, immigration system, difficult conversations, mass deportation, Donald Trump, Kamala Harris

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including the current political climate, recent layoffs in the industry, sports updates, and the acquisition of Workforce Software by ADP. They share their thoughts on the implications of these events and provide shout outs to notable figures and companies in the recruitment and technology space. In this conversation, Chad and Joel discuss the competitive landscape of HR tech, focusing on ADP's strategic moves in response to emerging competitors. They analyze SEEK's acquisition strategy and its implications for the market. The discussion shifts to the ongoing debates around minimum wage, highlighting the economic impacts of wage increases. They also explore Tulsa's innovative remote work initiative aimed at revitalizing the local economy. Finally, they address the critical issue of workplace safety and accountability in light of a tragic incident involving a factory worker. Chapters 00:00- -Introduction to the Podcast and Current Events 02:56-Political Climate and Its Impact 05:55 - Sports Updates and Reactions 08:52 -Shout Outs and Promotions 11:56 -Layoffs in the Industry 15:03 - ADP's Acquisition of Workforce Software 19:40 - ADP's Competitive Landscape and Strategic Moves 22:22 - Seek's Acquisition Strategy and Market Focus 24:35 - The Buy, Build, or Partner Dilemma 27:19 -Minimum Wage Discussions and Economic Impacts 35:10 - Tulsa's Remote Work Initiative and Economic Revitalization 42:24 - Workplace Safety and Accountability in Tragic Incidents Keywords podcast, layoffs, acquisitions, political climate, sports updates, ADP, workforce software, job search, technology, automation, ADP, Seek, minimum wage, Tulsa Remote, workplace safety, HR tech, economic impact, acquisition strategy, competitive landscape, remote work

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When we last spoke to Rebecca Carr, she was the interim CEO at SmartRecuiters, a popular ATS. Fortunately, the "interim" title has been removed and now she's just CEO. Of course, that comes with a whole new set of challenges, and we were more than happy to visit with her at the HR Technology conference to check-in on how it all went down, what's the current state of the business and what the future holds. It's a candid look into the inner workings of SmartRecruiters, as well as so other players in the recruitment space.

Buckle up, folks! This episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast comes straight from the green room at Recfest USA in Nashville, sponsored by Shaker Recruitment Marketing. Chad and Joel sit down with the one and only Rachel Morgan, VP of Client Services at Shaker, to talk about the glamorous world of recruitment marketing—mimosas in hand, of course. Rachel takes us on a wild ride from her days of wrestling with job boards (RIP SimplyHired) to the modern marvels of programmatic advertising and employer branding. Spoiler alert: AI is still the buzzword, and job seekers are still stuck in application limbo. Rachel drops some truth bombs. And for you TikTok skeptics out there, prepare to clutch your pearls—yes, people are finding career advice and jobs on the same platform where they learn to dance badly in 15 seconds. But the real meat of the episode? It’s all about gatekeeping! Want to get your shiny new HR tech in front of Shaker? Be prepared for some "American Idol" realness, where only the best get through. Enjoy!

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including the innovative Waymo self-driving cars, the ongoing rise of podcasting as a cultural force, the surprising business success of Spirit Halloween, and the competitive landscape between Indeed and ZipRecruiter. They also provide a fantasy football update and discuss recent layoffs at CareerBuilder and Monster following their merger. In this conversation, Chad and Joel discuss the implications of recent mergers and layoffs in the job market, particularly focusing on the acquisition of CareerBuilder and the potential future of job boards. They explore the acquisition of Nomadic Learning by Guild and its impact on talent development. The discussion then shifts to MrBeast's entry into the employment space with his new hiring platform, Vouch, and the challenges he may face. The conversation concludes with some light-hearted Halloween humor. Takeaways Indeed's lawsuit against ZipRecruiter highlights competitive tensions in the job market. Layoffs at CareerBuilder and Monster were anticipated due to their merger. The hosts emphasize the importance of clear communication in business. Podcasting is becoming a significant platform for political figures. Waymo's user experience is designed to be stress-free and enjoyable. Indeed's recent actions suggest they are feeling competitive pressure. Companies may push for resignations to avoid severance costs. Guild's acquisition of Nomadic Learning enhances their service offerings. Mr. Beast's entry into the job market could attract creators. Historical trends show celebrities struggle in the employment space. The job market is becoming increasingly competitive. TikTok's data collection strategies are evolving rapidly. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 03:03 - Waymo Experience and Future of Transportation 05:55 - Podcasting's Rise and Cultural Impact 09:06 - Spirit Halloween's Business Model 11:59 - Fantasy Football Update 15:06 - Indeed vs. ZipRecruiter Lawsuit 18:05 - Layoffs at CareerBuilder and Monster 19:46 - The Impact of Mergers and Layoffs 24:31 - Acquisitions and Talent Development 36:13 - MrBeast Enters the Employment Space 41:04 - Halloween Humor and Closing Thoughts Keywords Waymo, podcasting, Spirit Halloween, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, layoffs, transportation, fantasy football, AI, business news, mergers, layoffs, acquisitions, talent development, MrBeast, employment, TikTok, Bytespider, AI, job market

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, recorded live from The Shaker Green Room at Recfest USA, Chad and Joel sit down with Nicole Stephens, Recruitment Marketing Manager at Floor & Decor. Nicole who shares her approach to employer branding and recruitment marketing, focusing on making work environments better and more enjoyable. She emphasizes the importance of doing more with less, offering actionable insights on maximizing impact with zero-dollar budgets. Nicole also highlights how companies can enhance their candidate experience without spending a fortune, using examples from brands like Microsoft and Duolingo. She digs deep into the challenges talent acquisition professionals face, stressing the need to understand the business and make meaningful changes, rather than focusing solely on metrics like social media likes. The discussion touches on important topics like employee advocacy, retaining talent, and the critical role of data in recruitment. Nicole shares practical advice on collaborating with other departments, automating processes without losing the human touch, and the importance of taking action, no matter how small. Finally, Nicole’s call to "work like a European" and embrace more holidays underscores her belief that breaks lead to better productivity and creativity. ENJOY!

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, Euan Cameron, CEO at Willo, returns for a Firing Squad reunion. The conversation covers the journey of Willo since their first appearance on the podcast in August 2021, including their fundraising efforts and product evolution. Euan shares that Willo recently raised $2 million in funding, bringing their total funding to over $3 million. He also discusses the importance of maintaining a frugal mentality and the challenges of dilution. The episode concludes with a discussion on Willo's customer base, which has grown to 12,150 customers in 195 countries, and their global reach in interviewing candidates from every country in the world. Willo has experienced significant changes since their last conversation, including the shift to candidates being comfortable on camera and the move upstream to larger enterprise organizations. They have developed a platform capable of interviewing and assessing candidates through video, audio, text, multiple choice, and assessments. The company has seen success in the US market, with 60% of their revenue coming from the US. They attribute their success to word-of-mouth referrals and delivering the best customer experience. Integrations have been important for SMBs, but not a major acquisition channel for larger organizations. The team has grown organically and is doubling in size over the next year. Willo is focused on automating the onboarding process and improving the efficiency of the next steps after assessment. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Firing Squad Reunion 07:59 - The Importance of a Frugal Mentality in Startup Success 09:44 - Navigating the Challenges of Dilution 15:05 - Global Reach: Interviewing Candidates from Every Country 17:35 - Moving Upstream to Enterprise Organizations 20:24 - Success in the US Market 23:28 -Importance of Integrations for SMBs 27:23 - Delivering on Time to Hire 29:18 - Balancing AI and Human Involvement 32:43 - Team Growth and Future Plans

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, the hosts discuss various themes including the impact of AI on jobs, innovative job-seeking strategies, the future of job boards like ZipRecruiter and Dice, the dock workers' strike and its economic implications, Amazon's workforce challenges, and the declining usage of condoms among young adults. Takeaways AI's impact on jobs is often overstated. Innovative job-seeking strategies can challenge traditional norms. The dock workers' strike highlights economic vulnerabilities. Amazon's new policies may lead to significant turnover. Condom usage is declining due to advancements in birth control. Job boards must adapt to survive in a changing market. Raising wages is essential for economic health. The future of work is increasingly influenced by technology. Networking events like HR Tech are crucial for industry connections. Understanding market dynamics is key for job boards. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Themes 02:04 - Reflections on HR Tech and Networking 06:01 - Innovative Job Seeking Strategies 10:01 - The Impact of AI on Employment 16:01 - The Future of Job Boards: ZipRecruiter and Dice 35:09 - Dock Workers Strike and Economic Implications 43:57 - Amazon's Workforce Challenges 46:59 - Declining Condom Usage and Societal Changes Keywords AI, job market, HR Tech, employment trends, ZipRecruiter, Dice, dock workers, Amazon, condom usage, economic impact, Butler America, Harold Dagget, Courtney Summer Myers, Gia Johnston, HR Gumbo, Outsolve, Paradox, FactoryFix, Keeyora, Bullhorn, Maersk

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Allison King, VP of People Operations at Sound Physicians, shares her experience and insights on job searching and personal branding on LinkedIn. She emphasizes the importance of creating a strong LinkedIn profile and being active on the platform to build a professional network and showcase your skills and interests. Allison also discusses her approach to job applications, including reaching out to connections for support and leveraging LinkedIn Jobs. She highlights the value of being strategic in your outreach and making specific requests for assistance. Additionally, Alison shares her thoughts on job boards and the application process, recommending a focus on LinkedIn for professionals and entry level jobs, new grads alike. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 02:56 - Allison's Journey and Background 06:49 - Using ChatGPT for Resume and LinkedIn 09:57 - The Power of LinkedIn and Green Banner 12:41 - Content Creation and Networking on LinkedIn 15:36 - Navigating the Job Search Process 19:58 - ATS and Technology in Job Applications 24:10 - Job Boards and LinkedIn for Job Search 26:30 - Advice for New Grads and Early Career Professionals 28:21 - Conclusion and Contact Information Keywords job search, personal branding, LinkedIn, networking, job boards, application process, new grands, entry level jobs, job search tips, indeed jobs, ziprecruiter job search, LinkedIn tips, LinkedIn Green Banner, Open to Work

Live from the SmartRecruiters booth at HR Tech in Las Vegas, this one is all beef, no filler. Stickin' it to Eightfold, "black Nazis," Brett Favre and cold beers start the episode off on a strong note, followed by the breaking news. Commentary focused on newly minted CEOs at Appcast and Enboarder, a $30 million round and a $250 million valuation at Silicon Valley darling, backed by Peter Thiel and Jack Dorsey, Mercor, and Amazon getting generous with Prime subscriptions for their employees ... in addition to a minimum wage starting at $22-hour. Buckle up kids, it's live from the bright lights of the Vegas Strip.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys discuss various topics related to the recruiting industry in Europe and beyond, including recent news about Google and StepStone, shout outs to industry players, and a deep dive into the dynamics of European media and classifieds businesses. They also analyze legal battles involving JobIndex and Google, and engage in a 'Buy or Sell' segment featuring startups like SkillVue, Jobbilla, and Flowit, providing insights into their potential in the market. Hot Takes The recruiting industry is facing significant changes due to technology and investment. Shout outs highlight the importance of community and collaboration in the industry. Media and classifieds businesses are undergoing major transformations with new ownership structures. Legal battles, such as Job Index vs. Google, reflect the complexities of the digital job market. SkillView aims to address the skills gap with innovative AI solutions. Jobbilla's approach to recruitment lacks unique offerings in a competitive market. Flowit focuses on employee retention through real-time feedback, but raises concerns about the role of managers. The hosts emphasize the need for human interaction in employee engagement strategies. Investments in startups reflect the growing importance of technology in recruitment. The podcast encourages listeners to stay informed and engaged with industry developments. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Context 02:54 - Shout Outs and Industry News 05:58 - Media and Classifieds Business Dynamics 09:06 - JobIndex vs. Google: Legal Battles 11:56 - Buy or Sell: SkillVue 23:53 - Buy or Sell: Jobbilla 30:04 - Buy or Sell: Flowit

In this conversation, Joel and Chad interview Stacey Gordon, founder and principal consultant at Rework Work, about unconscious inclusion, skills-based hiring, and the politicization of DEI. Stacey emphasizes the importance of actively working towards unconscious inclusion. She discusses the need for dialogue and open conversations to bridge the gap between different perspectives. Stacey also addresses the challenges of changing mindsets and the role of education in DEI. She highlights the benefits of skills-based hiring for diversity and inclusion and the need for ongoing training and implementation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the politicization of DEI and the importance of shifting mindsets in the workplace. Takeaways Unconscious inclusion is the goal of DEI, where people are included without conscious effort or bias. Skills-based hiring can be a powerful tool for diversity and inclusion, as it focuses on the qualifications and abilities of candidates rather than their background or identity. Changing mindsets is crucial for progress in DEI, and ongoing education and training are necessary to shift perspectives and behaviors. The politicization of DEI can hinder progress, and it is important to have open conversations and bridge the gap between different perspectives. DEI is not limited to race, gender, or sexual orientation, but encompasses all aspects of identity, including socioeconomic status, religion, and language barriers. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 03:01 - Unconscious Inclusion: The Goal of DEI 08:11 - The Politicization of DEI: Challenges and Opportunities 11:21 - Changing Mindsets: The Key to Progress in DEI 18:45 - Bridging the Gap: Open Conversations and Different Perspectives 24:14 -The Power of Skills-Based Hiring for Diversity and Inclusion 27:26 - DEI Beyond Race and Gender: Embracing All Aspects of Identity 30:00 - Conclusion and Call to Action Keywords unconscious inclusion, skills-based hiring, DEI, politicization, diversity, inclusion, mindsets, education

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and industry veteran Emi Beredugo discuss various topics including LinkedIn's new features, the impact of layoffs in the recruiting industry, and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. They also delve into the recent merger of CareerBuilder and Monster, and Indeed's decision to remove free features from company pages. The conversation is filled with personal anecdotes, industry insights, and a light-hearted approach to serious topics. Ya' know, like always. Takeaways Emi is the senior manager of Recruiting Enablement at Elastic. LinkedIn is launching new features to enhance user engagement. The importance of DEI is being overshadowed by RTO policies. Indeed is removing free features from company pages, which may alienate smaller companies. The merger of CareerBuilder and Monster may not significantly impact the job market. Layoffs in the recruiting industry are affecting many employees. LinkedIn's verified job feature aims to improve job seeker safety. Video interviewing solutions are becoming more common in recruitment processes. The podcast hosts emphasize the need for inclusivity in hiring practices. Personal stories and humor are integral to the podcast's appeal. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Guest Introduction 02:25 - Emi's Background and Role 04:03 - Shout Outs and Personal Stories 11:33 - Layoff News and Industry Updates 12:55 - LinkedIn's New Features Discussion 27:52 - Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and Return to Office (RTO) Policies 34:59 - Indeed's Changes to Company Pages 37:58 - CareerBuilder and Monster Merger Discussion

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

In this snark-filled episode, Chad and Joel bring back SEO guru Alexander Chukovski to dissect Google’s latest core update, which has job boards like Indeed sweating bullets. Google’s now favoring ATS results and niche job sites, leaving generic job boards in the dust. The crew speculates whether Google is intentionally ghosting Indeed, especially after their pricey partnership with OpenAI. As usual, Chad and Joel throw take shots at job board giants and predict the future of job search. Best Line: "Indeed who? Never heard of 'em.”

In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Gareth Marlow, an executive coach and consultant at EQ Systems. They discuss various topics including Gareth's background, the differences between Cambridge and Oxford, their favorite sci-fi movies, and Gareth's work with startups. Gareth explains his role in helping organizations scale and achieve product-market fit. They also touch on the common problem of startups creating solutions for non-existent problems and the importance of customer orientation and research. In this conversation, Gareth Marlow discusses the challenges and strategies for companies looking to expand internationally, specifically between the UK and the US. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural differences and nuances in each market, as well as the need for localized go-to-market strategies. Gareth also highlights the significance of working with local experts and building strong relationships to navigate the fundraising process. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the rapid advancements in technology and the potential for democratizing waves in AI and low-code development. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Small Talk 02:57 - Differences Between Cambridge and Oxford 09:29 - Gareth's Role in Scaling Organizations 11:49 - Challenges of Scaling and Going Beyond 500 Employees 13:14 - Startups Creating Solutions for Non-Existent Problems 15:03 - Importance of Customer Orientation and Research 15:09 - Introduction and the Problem Space 16:00 - Expanding in America and Europe: Different Approaches 18:20 - Building Footholds and Organic Growth 20:40 - One Size Does Not Fit All 22:41 - Go-to-Market Strategies and Team Dynamics 26:50 -Red Flags and Warning Signs for Startups 28:25 -Fundraising Tips and Differences in Investment 31:11 -The Potential of Technology Advancements Keywords Gareth Marlow, executive coach, consultant, EQ Systems, Cambridge, Oxford, sci-fi movies, startups, product-market fit, customer orientation, research, international expansion, UK, US, cultural differences, go-to-market strategies, fundraising, technology advancements, AI, low-code development

In this snark-filled episode, Chad & Cheese take a deep dive into one of the most talked-about events of 2024: the merger between two job board giants, Monster and CareerBuilder. Once the dominant forces in the recruitment industry, these two "dinosaurs" are now struggling to survive as they attempt to snuggle up and weather the changing landscape. Chad & Cheese break down how these industry titans fell from grace, touching on Monster’s acquisition by Randstad and CareerBuilder’s dismemberment by Apollo. With their trademark wit, they explore what went wrong—spoiler: Super Bowl commercials and bad leadership played a part—and predict how the merger will likely end. As they navigate the impact of the merger, Chad & Cheese explain why the job board industry is evolving into something more focused on niche markets and innovative performance models, while the "Titans of Old" are left rearranging deck chairs on the sinking ship. Filled with sharp insights and unfiltered commentary, this episode offers listeners a front-row seat to the job board "meteor crash" and what it means for the future of recruiting. Get ready for some brutal honesty about where the industry is headed and why the old giants may not survive unless they evolve—fast.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Richard Collins, serial entrepreneur and founder of C Squared Technology, discusses the art of the startup pivot and mastering the challenges and opportunities in the recruitment advertising industry. He shares his experience with building a platform that connects job boards and employers, focusing on delivering qualified applicants. Richard emphasizes the need for a shift from quantity-based metrics like cost per click to quality-based metrics like cost per qualified applicant. He also highlights the importance of community-building and reinvention in the job board industry. Richard also discusses the funding and growth plans for C Squared Technology. Checkout his recent post on the move: https://www.cvwallet.com/post/our-journey-from-smart-cvs-for-jobseekers-to-solving-recruitment-advertising-for-the-ai-age Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 04:10 - From CV Wallet to C Squared Technology 08:59 - The Role of Blockchain in the Industry 10:36 - Pivoting and Adapting to the Changing Market 12:24 - Tips for Startups Facing a Pivot 13:39 - Shifting from CPC to Qualified and Interested Applicants 19:38 - The Disconnect Between Traffic and Quality 22:04 - The Role of C Squared Technology in the Job Board Ecosystem 26:36 - Building a Platform and the Future of C Squared Technology 33:00 - Reflections on the Changing Landscape of Tech Startups 36:40 - Funding and Growth Plans for C Squared Technology Keywords Richard Collins, Beverly Collins, C Squared Technology, ClickIQ, Indeed, IndeedIQ, recruitment advertising, job boards, qualified applicants, cost per click, cost per qualified applicant, platform, community-building, funding, growth plans, Appcast, CV Wallet

With Chad jet lagged from his trip back home from Portugal, Work It Daily's J.T. O'Donnell fills in. The main themes include the changing expectations of job seekers, the importance of authenticity and authentication in employer branding, the impact of AI and automation on job applications, the rise of video in recruitment, the role of social media in employee activism, and the right to disconnect from work. The conversation also touches on the cooling labor market and the challenges faced by job seekers in finding suitable employment. What's more? Joel and J.T. discuss various topics related to employment and the workforce. They touch on the impact of the economy on different age groups, the future of recruiting, the rise of remote work, and the challenges of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace. They also discuss the launch of LinkedIn's podcast aimed at Gen Z and the controversy surrounding an ageist report by Indeed. Takeaways Job seekers now expect the job to find them, thanks to the influence of platforms like TikTok. Authenticity is important, but job seekers also want authentication to ensure that employers are who they say they are. Video is becoming a crucial tool in recruitment, allowing job seekers to showcase their skills and employers to provide an authentic view of their company. Job seekers are using social media to document and validate their experiences, challenging traditional power dynamics in the workplace. The right to disconnect from work is becoming increasingly important, especially for younger generations who prioritize work-life balance. The economy has different impacts on different age groups, with younger individuals facing challenges in finding employment and older individuals experiencing age discrimination. The future of recruiting is uncertain, with the rise of AI and automation potentially reducing job opportunities in certain sectors. Remote work is becoming more prevalent and offers opportunities for individuals to have flexible and fractional careers. Diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts in companies are facing challenges and pushback, with some companies scaling back their initiatives. LinkedIn's launch of a podcast aimed at Gen Z reflects the growing importance of podcasts as a medium for professional content. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:34 - Introducing J.T. O'Donnell and her Background 02:21 - The Changing Expectations of Job Seekers 03:45 - The Importance of Authenticity and Authentication in Employer Branding 06:33 - The Rise of Video in Recruitment 07:59 - The Role of Social Media in Employee Activism 08:46 - The Right to Disconnect from Work 09:57 - The Cooling Labor Market and Challenges for Job Seekers 24:42 - The Impact of the Economy on Different Age Groups 27:24 - The Future of Recruiting and the Rise of AI 28:56 - The Opportunities and Challenges of Remote Work 37:46 - The Challenges of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion 48:17 - LinkedIn's Podcast Aimed at Gen Z Keywords job market, job seekers, authenticity, authentication, AI, automation, video, social media, employee activism, right to disconnect, labor market, employment, workforce, economy, ageism, recruiting, remote work, diversity, equity, inclusion, LinkedIn, podcast

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Yehuda Beller, co-founder and CRO at Worklik joins the Chad and Cheese podcast for a session of Firing Squad. WorkLik is a video-based job platform that aims to improve the candidate experience and connect job seekers with employers. They focus on hourly workers and Gen Z job seekers who are tired of the traditional hiring process. They've raised $2.5 million in seed funding and are planning to raise a Series A round soon. They offer a pay-per-match model, where employers only pay when they match with a qualified candidate. Sounds familiar, but do they have something unique enough to make it out alive? Gotta listen. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 05:05 - The Name and Funding 06:15 - The Relevance of Video Resumes 07:51 - Funding and Advisory Board 09:13 - Background and Expertise of the Leadership Team 12:00 - Creating Video Intros and Work History 13:30 - Target Audience and User Experience 14:16 - Video Resumes and Risk Assessment 17:04 - Matching Candidates with Job Requirements 18:46 - Focus on Hourly Work and Part-Time Jobs 21:41 - Improving the Candidate Experience 24:43 - Emphasizing the Human Connection 26:13 - Engaging Candidates Through Chat Messaging 29:46 - Expanding Reach Through Social Media 35:16 - Pay-Per-Match: A Cost-Effective Model

This week, the boys are doing their best Charles Dickens impressions, but instead of two cities, they're waxing poetic about the tale of two applicant tracking systems: SmartRecruiers and iCIMS. One is making all the right moves, while the other one, well, not-so-much. Then it's on to Amazon, whose new Amazon Q technology is taking the world by storm ... and possibly putting a lot of developers out of work. Yikes! Then it's time for a little Buy-or-Sell, featuring Pangeam, Micro1 and Workpay. More disagreement this time than usual, so hopefully you like fireworks. And if you don't like fireworks, hopefully you like chicken, becauase Chick-fil-A is back in the news. And speaking of chicken, don't even get Chad started on Chicken Cock Whiskey ... you just need to listen. Chapters 01:00 - Euro Chad goes deep 03:40 - Chicken Cock Whiskey 05:18 - Oasis, PeralJam and Xers 08:25 - Kelce's New Heights rein in $100m 12:00 - Fantasy Football 14:15 - CEO Divergence 20:01 - iCIMS: Potential Acquisition Strategy and Layoffs 21:01 - SmartRecruiters: Industry Knowledge and Global Expansion 21:14 - Impact of CEO Changes on Global Growth Strategies 21:30 - Comparing iCIMS and SmartRecruiters 27:36 - The Impact of Amazon Q 34:54 - Recent Funding: Pangem, Micro One, and Workpay 43:32 - Chick-fil-A's Misadventure in the Streaming Market Keywords SmartRecruiters, iCIMS, CEO changes, acquisitions, layoffs, global growth strategy, iCIMS, SmartRecruiters, HR tech, AI, software development, Amazon Q, Pangem, Micro One, Workpay, Chick-fil-A, streaming platform

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Matt Fischer, President and COO of Bullhorn, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss the evolution of Bullhorn and the future of the recruiting industry. Fischer shares his background and how he got into the staffing and tech industry. He also talks about the importance of AI in recruiting and how it can optimize the human element of the job. The conversation covers Bullhorn's recent acquisition of Textkernel and the benefits it brings to the company. Fischer also discusses Bullhorn's marketplace and venture investments, as well as the state of the staffing industry. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:58 - Bullhorn's Evolution and Acquisition of Textkernel 08:39 - The Importance of Bullhorn's Marketplace and Venture Investments 11:05 - The State of the Staffing Industry 16:08 - No Immediate Plans for an IPO: Focus on Private Equity Sponsors Keywords Matt Fischer, Bullhorn, recruiting industry, AI, Textkernel, marketplace, venture investments, staffing industry

This week, Chad and Cheese discuss various topics including the DNC, immersive technology, Chick-fil-A's elevated drive-through, Shawn Fain's speech on American workers, Alex Cooper's $100 million podcast deal, and upcoming events like RecFest and fantasy football. They also touch on Chris Bakke leaving X Hiring after one year, as well as the decline of Indeed and its questionable strategies, as well as the launch of ZipRecruiter's new podcast. The conversation then shifts to the role of AI in coding and the potential impact on developers. Finally, they touch on the controversial law in Indiana that requires age verification for viewing pornography online. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:41 - Real People and Relatable Moments at the DNC 06:28 - Immersive Technology 10:46 - Shawn Fain Fighs for American Workers 13:06 - Alex Cooper's $100 Million Podcast Deal 18:22 - Chris Bakke Leaves X Hiring 24:28 - Indeed's Tomfuckery 30:05 - ZipRecruiter's Launch a Podcast? 35:47 - AWS AI in Coding 44:18 - Indiana Hates Freedom Keywords Democratic National Convention, immersive technology, Chick-fil-A, elevated drive-through, Sean Fain, American workers, Alex Cooper, podcast deal, RecFest, fantasy football, Chris Bocchi, X, recruiting industry, Chris Russell, X hiring, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, AI, coding, pornography, age verification

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In this snark-filled episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, Joel, Chad, and Lieven serve up their usual blend of sharp wit and sharp analysis, dissecting everything from Ukraine's military maneuvers to the UK’s job market makeover. No European stereotype is safe, and no topic is too serious (or ridiculous) for the boys to tackle. Ukrainian Military Offensive UK's Move Towards Degree-less Hiring StepStone's New Ad Campaign: Buy or Sell with: Impact Pool, AlgoJob, and ViaCurrent. The "Lazy" Belgian Lie This snark-filled synopsis captures the irreverent tone of the podcast while summarizing the key points with a healthy dose of sarcasm. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:30 - The Conflict in Ukraine and the Offensive Against Russia 11:35 - The Changing Job Market in the UK: Rise of Degree-Less Jobs 12:22 -The Importance of Certifications in the Tech Industry 15:23 - The Impact of Brexit on Immigration and Hiring 20:05 -Skills-Based Hiring and the Shift in Recruitment 23:50 -The Value of Blue-Collar Jobs and Skilled Workers 25:17 -Buy or Sell: Impact Pool 26:45 -Investing in Niche Businesses 33:39 -AlgoJob: AI-Driven Interview Tool 38:24 -Viacurrent: Early Wage Access App 47:11 -Working Hours in Europe Keywords Ukraine, job market, degree-less jobs, certifications, Brexit, immigration, skills-based hiring, inclusivity, diversity, HR, recruiting, buy or sell, companies, working hours, Europeans, jokes

Jim McCoy, CEO of Atlas, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss the rise of Employee of Record (EOR) platforms and the future of remote work. McCoy explains that EOR platforms help companies employ people in countries where they don't have a legal entity, supporting global mobility and recruitment. He also discusses the convergence of EOR and staffing, the challenges of safeguarding intellectual property in the gig economy, and the normalization of salaries based on cost of living. McCoy believes that the success of companies like Deel in the EOR space is beneficial for the entire industry, and he envisions an ecosystem that supports recruiters and helps them find the best candidates. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background of Jim McCoy 08:50 - Convergence of EOR and Staffing 11:45 - Supporting Recruitment and Hiring Across Borders 14:00 - Safeguarding Intellectual Property in the Gig Economy 19:54 - Normalization of Salaries Based on Cost of Living 25:22 - The Success of Companies like Deal in the EOR Space 29:48 - Building an Ecosystem to Support Recruiters Keywords Jim McCoy, CEO, Atlas, Employee of Record, EOR, remote work, staffing, intellectual property, gig economy, salaries, normalization, global mobility, recruitment, ecosystem

This week, the boys discuss the Olympics, layoffs at Paramount and Cisco. Plus, they analyze the financial performance and strategies of companies like Indeed, Upwork, ZipRecruiter, and Seek. They also touch on the challenges faced by job boards and the impact of AI on the industry. Additionally, they discuss the potential breakup of Alphabet (Google) due to antitrust concerns and the use of OnlyFans by Olympic athletes to fund their dreams. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Olympics Recap 08:21 - Leadership Decisions at Paramount and Cisco 16:15 - Starbucks Goes Off the Deep End 18:09 - Earnings Reports: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, and Seek 19:16 - Concerns about Layoffs and Adaptation 23:12 - The Impact of AI on Jobs 24:09 - Challenges Faced by Job Boards 27:45 - Sprockets: A Poor Man's Paradox 29:11 - The State of the Recruitment Industry 37:15 - Google's Potential Breakup and Remote Work 43:00 - Olympic Athletes on OnlyFans Keywords Chad and Cheese, podcast, Olympics, layoffs, Paramount, Cisco, earnings reports, ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Seek, recruitment industry, financial performance, strategies, job boards, AI, Indeed, Upwork, ZipRecruiter, Seek, Alphabet, Google, antitrust, OnlyFans, Olympic athletes

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe, Joel and Lieven discuss the Olympics, anti-tourism protests in Europe, and play the ultimate game of Buy or Sell with several European startups. They review and give their opinions on the startups Earlybird, doinstruct, WorkerHero, Moniti and Passionfruit. They also explore the reasons why Europeans have a dislike for tourists. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 01:35 - Discussion on the Olympics 06:15 - Conversation on European Sports 08:45 - Review of Earlybird Startup 13:15 - Review of doinstruct Startup 15:46 - Review of WorkerHero Startup 20:19 - Review of Passionfruit Startup 27:09 - Discussion on Anti-Tourism Protests in Europe 30:18 - Reasons for Europeans' Dislike of Tourists 31:57 - Conclusion and Farewell Keywords Chad and Cheese Podcast, Europe, Olympics, anti-tourism protests, startups, Earlybird AI, doinstruct, Work Hero, PassionFruit, Moniti, Gojira, Yusuf Dikec,

Hilla Hascalovici, the founder of Period Ally, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to discuss how her company helps companies support their menstruating employees. Period Ally offers high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave and rest policies, training, events, and more. Julie Sowash takes over for Chad, as it's smarter to have smarts over snark on this episode. Hascalovici plans to raise money in the future and expand globally. The podcast hosts commend her for addressing an important issue and see potential for success in the market. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 03:03 -Pitching Periodally 12:03 -Bathroom Products and Preferences 15:10 - Cutting Through the Clutter 21:37 - Product Fit in a Remote Work Environment 28:03 - Pricing and Margins 32:02 - Women's Success in the Workplace 35:31 - Future Growth and Conclusion Keywords Hila Hascalovici, Periodally, period ally, menstruating employees, high-quality products, pain management, menstrual leave, rest policies, training, events, productivity, raising money, global expansion

In this episode, the boys deliver snarky takes on current events in tech and recruitment. They discuss the appeal of a down-to-earth political figure, shout out Snoop Dogg for boosting Olympic viewership, and promote their presence at Recfest in Nashville. Theget ready for a critique of Intel's leadership amid layoffs, Tinder's failed live streaming, and question the hype around AI investments, particularly startups like Tezi and Ema. They also highlight ZipRecruiter's acquisition of Breakroom as a smart move, while expressing doubts about Skillfully's future in AI-powered hiring. It's time for sharp industry insights with a punch humor and punch. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Reflections on the US Presidential Election 03:09 - The Olympics: Sportsmanship and Inspiration 06:00 -Layoffs at Major Companies: Leadership and Accountability 09:18 - Shout-outs: Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, and Keeyora 10:56 -Upcoming Events: Recfest and Fantasy Football 21:14 -Layoffs, Funding, and Acquisitions in the HR and Recruiting Industry 28:41 -The Importance of Differentiation in the HR and Recruiting Industry 35:02 - Buy or Sell: Reviewing Recent Funding Rounds 45:54 - The Challenges Faced by the Restaurant Industry Keywords US presidential election, Olympics, layoffs, Snoop Dogg, Dolce & Gabbana, Kiora, politics, sports, fashion, technology, HR, recruiting, layoffs, funding, AI, HR tech, acquisitions, restaurant industry

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Recorded live from RecFest, this special episode of Chad and Cheese features Lord Wei, a member of the Science and Tech Committee in the House of Lords. It's not every day you hear from a political figure on the show! They dive into topics like AI regulation, workforce automation, and tech's role in recruitment. Don't miss it—follow Chad and Cheese for more unique insights. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 0:55 Transition from Tech into Recruitment 2:30 Lord Wei’s Short Bio 3:23 Predicting the Era of AI 5:14 AI is a Superhuman in Recruitment 6:29 AI is about Skills 7:52 AI Discovers Talent 9:51 Flexibility is Key 13:45 Taking Advantage over Government 15:23 Redeploying People into New Jobs 18:33 AI Makes Hiring Fair 19:59 Talent Is What Counts 23:06 Gen Z 24:38 Bringing Migrants into the Workforce 26:05 Integration into Hybrid Future

In this episode, Joel and Chad dig into a ton of tech news with a new segment called 'Big Mac or Nothing Burger' where they evaluate the significance topic by topic. Big Mac or Nothing Burger - Indeed charges $3 per API call - ZipRecruiter introduces new AI tools - New LinkedIn jobs guidelines - ChatGPT goes search - LinkedIn leans on ad networks to grow sales - Oracle introduces "Easy Apply" - SEEK NZ takes a nosedive and ending up with McDonald's once again blaming the economy for its woes. Get ready for technology trends, advertising strategies, market competition, consumer behavior, and Canada Joel! Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview 14:27 Indeed's new API tax 21:07 ZipRecruiter's New Tools 28:59 OpenAI's Search Engine 32:44 LinkedIn Partnering with Publishers 36:27 Oracle's new Easy Apply 39:43 Seek Job Ad decline in New Zealand 44:05 Heineken's Sales Decline 48:09 McDonald's will blame anything Keywords podcast, Olympics, shoutouts, tech news, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, API, job postings, AI, resumes, recruitment, technology, job alerts, LinkedIn, job listings, OpenAI, search engine, social media, advertising, Oracle, job seekers, job ads, Heineken, McDonald's

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In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Jim Durbin, the Indeed Whisperer, about the challenges and future of job boards and recruitment marketing. They discuss the decline in traffic and revenue for Indeed, the potential expansion into temporary staffing, the importance of social media presence for job boards, and the CareerBuilder-Monster merger. Jim shares his insights on the industry and predicts that a tech company may acquire CareerBuilder and that ZipRecruiter may face challenges. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction of The Indeed Whisperer 02:30 - Indeed's Challenges and Potential Expansion 10:10 - Indeed's Delcine and the Importance of Social Media 13:28 - X as a LinkedIn Killer 19:19 - CareerBuilder-Monster Merger 28:04 - Acquiring CareerBuilder and Challenges for ZipRecruiter Keywords job boards, recruitment marketing, Indeed, temporary staffing, social media, CareerBuilder, Monster, predictions, ZipRecruiter, Job.com, Apollo, Randstad, Talent.com

On this week's show, the boys are talkin' Fiverr who's expanding its platform from a freelance marketplace to a "hiring platform," introducing new features like profession-based talent search and hourly rates. They are also adding AI-powered tools to enhance project management and user experience. Chad sees this as Fiverr growing up and moving away from short-term projects to longer-term relationships. However, Cheese sees it as a desperate move to compete in a changing landscape. What's more, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including the impact of AI on productivity, Joe Biden's decision to withdraw from the presidential race, Kamala Harris's qualifications, and the GOP convention's effect on Grindr usage. They highlight the need for proper implementation of AI to avoid increased workloads and burnout. They also emphasize the importance of knowing when to step down as a leader, and they discuss the potential benefits of age-gating in politics. Additionally, they address the Republican strategy of discrediting leaders of color and the significance of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 19:17 - The Impact of AI 21:06 - Fiverr's Pivot 30:35 - Knowing When to Step Down 31:08 - Age Gating in Politics 37:56 - Discrediting Leaders of Color Keywords Fiverr, freelance marketplace, hiring platform, profession-based talent search, hourly rates, AI-powered tools, project management, user experience, changing landscape, AI, security, AI, productivity, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, GOP convention, Grindr, burnout, leadership, age gating, diversity, equity, inclusion

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.