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Skills-Based Hiring is a Mirage w/ Jason Putnam

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In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Jason Putnam, Chief Revenue Officer at Plum, about the flaws of skills-based hiring and the future of work. They discuss the challenges of becoming a skills-based organization, the importance of soft skills in hiring and promotion decisions, and the need for clean and comprehensive data to drive talent management. They also touch on the role of credentialing and the potential demise of the traditional resume. Overall, the conversation explores the evolving landscape of talent acquisition and management in the face of rapid technological advancements. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 02:13 - The Flaws of Skills-Based Hiring 06:10 - The Challenges of Creating a Foundational Base for Skills-Based Hiring 09:24 - The Integration of Talent Acquisition and Talent Management 13:00 - The Importance of Transparency and Internal Mobility 15:09 - The Role of Credentialing and Ongoing Learning 24:28 - Optimism and Pessimism about the Future of Work Keywords skills-based hiring, future of work, soft skills, data, credentialing, resume, talent acquisition, talent management, AI, upskilling

Jul 24, 202428 min

Firing Squad: Gage's Justin Henshaw

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Justin Henshaw, founder and CEO of Gage, joins the Chad and Cheese podcast to pitch his company. Gage is the first and only universal employment recognition system and engagement community built for shift and hourly workers. It allows employees to own and transfer their employment data, providing a complete and portable employment record. Gage also fosters community and connection among employees, allowing them to connect with peers, coworkers, and managers. The platform emphasizes engagement and rewards, with the goal of motivating and retaining shift and hourly workers. Gage is an employee engagement platform that aims to recognize and celebrate the hard work of every person in the workforce. The platform provides a gauge score to employees based on their reliability, trustworthiness, and performance. Gage's go-to-market strategy includes both a sales approach targeting mid to large enterprises and an organic approach with end users. The platform is primarily focused on the hourly workforce and younger generations who are not active on LinkedIn. Gage aims to become an industry standard and a language within businesses, where employees' gauge scores determine their pay and opportunities. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Background of Justin Henshaw 05:26 - Pitching Gage: The Universal Employment Recognition System 08:03 - The Name and Relevance of Gage 08:55 - Justin Henshaw's Entrepreneurial Background 09:55 - Funding and Future Plans for Gage 11:07 - Ownership and Privacy of Employment Data on Gage 13:30 - Engagement and Communication on Gage 14:58 - Building Community and Connection on Gage 15:55- Interface and User Experience on Gage 16:36 - Joining a New Company on Gage 19:02 - The Gauge Score: A Measure of Reliability and Trustworthiness 20:34 - Go-to-Market Strategy: Sales Approach and Organic Growth 22:41 - Targeting the Hourly Workforce and Younger Generations 27:07 - Becoming an Industry Standard for Employee Recognition Keywords Gage, employment recognition system, engagement community, shift workers, hourly workers, employment data, portable employment record, community, connection, engagement, rewards, motivation, retention, employee engagement, gauge score, go-to-market strategy, competition, integrations, pricing model, ultimate goal

Jul 22, 202436 min

Deel Dominates, Microsoft Dumps & Redbox Dies

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This week, the boys are covering a ton of news. Hackajob impresses, while Axel Springer is considering spinning off its digital classifieds division, which includes StepStone and Aviv Group. Deel keeps winning with its latest acquisition of Hofy, while Lattice's decision to treat AI agents as employees fell flat with Netizens. DEI took a big hit with the disbanding of Microsoft's diversity and inclusion team and SHRM deleting "equity" from its messaging. Plus, how do you take your Skyline Chili? Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 05:13 - Hackajob's new AI integration 06:55 - Richard Simmons Tribute 08:36 - Free Stuff 10:59 - RecFest Announcement 12:21 - Redbox Liquidation 14:17 - Axel Springer Rum Springer 18:08 - Deal Acquires Hofy 24:13 - Lattice AI Controversy 29:10 - Microsoft Dumps DEI 44:15 - Skyline Chili #1 Keywords Axel Springer, spin-off, digital classifieds, StepStone, Aviv Group, media assets, restructuring, European strategy, acquisition, remote office equipment management, payroll provider, AI agents, employees, diversity and inclusion, fast food chains, Skyline Chili, In-N-Out, Whataburger, Hattie B's, Lattice.

Jul 19, 202449 min

Shredded: Deel, Job&Talent, LinkedIn, Stepstone, WorkHero, Doinstruct, Moniti, LegalFly & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jul 18, 20247 min

Real AI Recruiting Use Cases with Adam Gordon

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Companies are hearing all of the efficiencies they can enjoy by using large language models (LLM) but have no clue where to start. Luckily, Adam Gordon, cofounder at Poetry, can answer some of those questions for TA leaders and recruiters while Chad & Cheese can attest to LLMs integrated into podcasting platforms. If you're new to LLMs, and using solutions like ChatGPT, or you're a seasoned pro, this episode is for you.

Jul 17, 202436 min

Give People What They Want with Angela Cheng-Cimini

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In this episode, the boys interview Angela Cheng-Cimini, the CHRO at Harvard Business Publishing, about hyper-individualization in the workplace. They discuss the importance of meeting employees where they are and providing a personalized employee experience. They also explore the impact of COVID-19 on workplace flexibility and the shift towards remote work. The conversation covers topics such as pay transparency, career progression, and the role of managers in shaping the employee experience. Angela emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to the changing expectations of employees and create a culture of belonging and growth. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 03:00 - Hyper Individualization: Meeting Employees Where They Are 05:12 - Pay Transparency and Pay Equity 08:35 - Career Progression: Making It Visible and Accessible 13:07 - The Changing Attitudes Towards Becoming a Manager 21:30 - Navigating Politics in the Workplace 23:37 - The Challenges and Importance of Midline Leaders Keywords hyper-individualization, workplace flexibility, remote work, pay transparency, career progression, managers, employee experience, culture

Jul 15, 202428 min

LinkedIn Ad Performance Face-Off

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In this episode, the boys discuss various topics including LinkedIn ad performance, Google's facial recognition technology, and the rise of AI-powered relationships. They explore the effectiveness of LinkedIn ads compared to other platforms like LinkedIn and X, highlighting the superior targeting, reach, and quality of ads on Meta platforms. Start-up Quantum Rise looks to take advantage of the growing trend of companies needing help figuring out AI technologies and onboarding them all in a smart way. The conversation then shifts to the ethical implications of facial recognition technology - highlighting Google doing it to their employees - with concerns about privacy, government surveillance, and potential misuse of biometric data. Finally, they delve into the growing trend of AI-powered relationships and the impact it may have on human connections and the workforce. Takeaways Meta platforms offer superior targeting, reach, and ad quality compared to LinkedIn Facial recognition technology raises concerns about privacy and government surveillance AI-powered relationships may impact human connections and the workforce Companies should consider the ethical implications of adopting AI tech Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Episode Overview 09:43 - LinkedIn Ads vs. Meta: The Battle for Ad Performance 23:19 - The Ethical Dilemma of Facial Recognition Technology 29:34 - The Rise of AI-Powered Relationships and Its Impact on Human Connections 35:18 - The Future Workforce: Navigating the Challenges of AI and Automation Keywords LinkedIn ads, Meta, X, twitter, Google, Quantum rise, Ireland, Recfest, Lord Nat Wei, Thisway Global, facial recognition technology, privacy, AI-powered relationships, workforce

Jul 12, 202438 min

AI’s Future in Talent Acquisition from a Rainy Scottish Beach

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In this episode, Chad and Cheese, joined by Matt Alder, brave the typical Scottish weather from the comfort of a van parked on North Berwick Beach. The appalling weather and fog set the scene for a hilariously insightful discussion on the future of talent acquisition. Expect plenty of snark as they navigate topics like AI’s inevitable takeover, the rapid pace of tech evolution, and why you should never trust two American whiskey fans with a 14th-century spiral staircase. They also humorously lament the state of recruitment tech, with Joel dreaming of a pub on the infamous Bass Rock (spoiler: there isn’t one), and Chad promising topless glass legions that never materialize. Enjoy laughs and sharp predictions on AI’s impact, the commoditization of ATSs, and how small companies might leapfrog industry giants by embracing new tech faster. Tune in for a rollercoaster of insights and laughs, all served with a side of Scottish rain. Don’t miss this unique blend of tech talk and travel tales from HR’s most irreverent voices.

Jul 10, 202419 min

Whiskey and Résumés: A Match Made in Hell

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On this special episode, The Chad & Cheese team up with our pal and fellow podcaster Matt Alder, who, in true Scooby-Doo fashion, rented a camper van for our East Coast tour. First stop? Glenkinchie Distillery in the Scottish Lowlands. Because, of course, in Scotland the best way to start the day is with some whiskey. After the tour we whip out the mics and dive into a Tru Glasgow briefing, topics like whether resumes are finally six feet under, upskilling, kids deciding their careers (because they totally know what they want), and whether the US and Europe are finally sharing the same recruiting woes. Big shoutout to Matt, our Scottish pals, and the sponsors of both Tru Glasgow and Tru Edinburgh: DAXTRA TECHNOLOGIES ASHBY SOLUTIONS DRIVEN GIGGED.AI WILLO and POETRY Slàinte Mhath! PODCAST TRANSCRIPTION COMETH

Jul 8, 202424 min

CareerBuilder Monster Merger

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They boys are talkin' CareerBuilder and Monster merging this week. The deal is expected to close in Q3 and is subject to regulatory approvals. This merger comes as both companies have faced challenges in recent years, with CareerBuilder being sold off in pieces by Apollo and Monster struggling to revive its brand under Randstad's guidance. It remains to be seen how this merger will impact the job board industry and the competition with Indeed, LinkedIn and others. They also talk about Phenom's acquisition of Tidy and its implications for the applicant tracking system space. The conversation then shifts to LinkedIn's new AI features and the controversy surrounding them, as well as the emergence of Unikon.ai as a potential competitor to LinkedIn in India. Finally, they discuss a lawsuit in Florida challenging a new law that raises the age requirement for strippers, er, adult entertainment workers. Chapters 00:00 - CareerBuilder and Monster Merger 17:09 - Challenges and Timing 18:03 - Impact on the Job Board Industry 19:50 - Competition with Indeed and LinkedIn 20:02 - Apollo's Strategy 20:52 - Monster's Struggle 27:55 - Phenom's Expansion into the ATS Space 34:42 - LinkedIn's AI Features 40:07- -Unikon: A Competitor to LinkedIn 45:23 - Challenging Florida's Law on Adult Entertainment Workers Keywords CareerBuilder, Monster, merger, Apollo Global Management, job board, acquisition, staffing, competition, Indeed, LinkedIn, Monster, StepStone, acquisition, Phenom, Tidy, applicant tracking system, LinkedIn, AI features, Unikon, professional networking, Florida, strip clubs, adult entertainment workers

Jul 5, 202448 min

Shredded: Monster, CareerBuilder, UKG, Phenom, SmartHR, KarmaCheck, HR Path, Collabwork & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jul 4, 20246 min

Llama Drama: WorkLLama’s AI Revolution

Yeah, we know. WorkLlama is a dumb name for a company. But Shakespeare said, "A rose by any other name would still smell OK," or something like that (English lit wasn't really our thing), so let's dig into the business with Sugandan Dinakaran, VP of Product at WorkLlama. Turns out, WorkLlama promises to do a lot of the heavy lifting for your recruiting strategies. We're talkin' marketing, acquisition, engagement, scheduling and more, and they've raised $50 million so they must be doing something right. Added bonus: The name is explained, and like it or not, it does make sense.

Jul 3, 202413 min

The Revolution of Work: FUCK the Patriarchy

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Anessa Fike, author of The Revolution of Work, F!ck the Patriarchy, discusses her book and the need to dismantle the current systems in the workplace. She shares her journey into fractional HR and explains that fractional work allows organizations to have experts on a part-time basis at a fraction of the cost. Anessa talks about her decision to write the book and her choice of title, emphasizing the need for an uprising and the dismantling of patriarchal elements in society. She hopes that the book will empower those who already think this way and encourage conversations about change. The conversation explores the need for a revolution in the workplace, addressing issues such as obliviousness of leaders, the need for self-reflection, the rise of fractional work, the role of AI, the challenges with founder CEOs, the lack of diversity in funding, and the importance of pay equity. The conversation emphasizes the need for change and the role of allies in creating a more inclusive and equitable work environment.

Jul 1, 202441 min

Indeed Traffic Woes, TechWolf Howls, & FairNow Impresses

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This week, the boys discuss recent excursions in Asia and Europe, as well as recent industry news. They cover topics such as the decline in job postings, the acquisition of Textkernel by Bullhorn, the rebranding of StepStone, and the funding of TechWolf and FairNow. The conversation also touches on the importance of AI in the recruitment industry and the trend towards skills-based hiring. In this conversation, Chad and Joel discuss various topics including skills-based hiring, AI governance software, the decline in traffic for job search engine Indeed, the car industry's trends, and the use of AI assistants in financial advising. They explore the challenges and opportunities presented by these themes and provide insights into the future of these industries. Highlights Travel experiences in Asia and Europe Decline in job postings and the impact on the recruitment industry Acquisition of Textkernel by Bullhorn and the importance of AI in recruitment Rebranding of StepStone and the significance of consistent branding Funding of TechWolf and the trend towards skills-based hiring Companies struggle with skills-based hiring because they often don't understand the specific skills required for a job. Testing candidates for these skills before hiring them can be more effective than relying on traditional screening processes. AI governance software is becoming increasingly important for companies in highly regulated industries. Fair now, an AI compliance company, has raised $3.5 million in seed funding to expand its operations. Job search engine Indeed has seen a decline in global and US traffic, possibly due to changes in Google's algorithm and the rise of AI summaries. Competitors like ZipRecruiter have shown different trends, suggesting specific challenges for Indeed. The car industry is experiencing various trends, including the rise of EVs, the challenges of infrastructure and consumer spending habits, and the impact of competition on companies like Tesla. Morgan Stanley is using generative AI assistants to improve efficiency and client engagement for its financial advisors. This trend of using AI assistants for administrative tasks is expected to continue across industries. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Travel Adventures 08:05 - The Acquisition of Textkernel by Bullhorn 11:37 - StepStone's Rebranding 25:08 -Skills-Based Hiring Challenges 26:24 -The Rise of AI Governance Software 29:17 -The Decline in Traffic for Job Search Engine Indeed 33:29 -Trends in the Car Industry: EVs and Competition 46:35 -AI Assistants in Financial Advising: Improving Efficiency 51:15 -The Challenges Faced by Hooters

Jun 28, 202453 min

Shredded: TechWolf, FairNow, candidate.fyi, Zoios, Wilya, Human People Solutions & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jun 27, 20246 min

StepStone's Rebrand: Fresh Look or Lipstick on a Pig?

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Join Chad and Lieven in this week’s episode as they dive into Europe’s hottest tech news. With Joel savoring Singaporean street food, the duo tackles LinkedIn’s new AI career coaches and the impact of Bullhorn acquiring Text Kernel on the recruitment industry. They explore Revolut’s surprising move into HR tech with Revolut People, discussing potential privacy concerns and market implications. Lieven passionately defends traditional brewing against AI enhancements in Belgian beer, while Chad shares his excitement. They also critique StepStone’s recent rebranding efforts and their potential impact on the company's future. Tune in for a lively discussion on AI, recruitment tech, and European innovations, all with a side of humor and a dash of Belgian beer.

Jun 26, 202436 min

Firing Squad: Talk’n’Job's Markus Krampe

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Automating the application process is pretty popular these days. From companies like Paradox to Humanly and others, allowing job seekers to submit their information by tapping a screen or talking into a phone is becoming big business. Then along comes Germany-based Talk’n’Job who believe they've built a better mousetrap, and they've even won a competition that says they just might. CEO Markus Krampe joins the boys in a lively Q&A to get to the bottom of things and whether or not Talk’n’Job has what it takes to compete on a grand scale. Do they survive the Firing Squad? Gotta listen. 00:00 - Talk’n’Job Intro 03:20 - Market Challenges and Opportunities 13:13 - Funding and Expansion Plans 16:27 - Blue-Collar Jobs and Easy Recruitment Processes 27:44 - The Impact of AI

Jun 24, 202435 min

Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, Chad and guest Joel Lalgee tackle everything from Euro 2024 and upcoming events to the staffing world being rocked by Indeed. Nvidia is now king of the public companies, and Bullhorn just gobbled up TextKernel. They jabber about AI in recruiting and retail, including McDonald's drive-through robots and retail's eternal misery with low pay and turnover. Buckle up for a snarky dive into the future of work! 00:01:00 - Special Guest Introduction 00:03:30 - Euro 2024 Soccer Talk 00:06:30 - Shoutouts and Upcoming Events 00:11:00 - RecFest Insights 00:14:30 - Indeed Launches into Staffing 00:20:00 - Staffing Industry Disruption 00:25:00 - Bullhorn Acquires TextKernel 00:30:00 - AI in Recruitment and Staffing 00:38:00 - Skills-Based Hiring 00:44:00 - Retail Job Challenges 00:49:00 - McDonald's AI Experiment 00:54:00 - Closing Remarks

Jun 21, 202451 min

UPS Recruitment Revolution with Matt Lavery

Think the time you've put in at your current employer is impressive? Well, let us introduce you to Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Hiring and Onboarding at UPS ... since 1997. That's right, while you were listening to Radiohead's OK Computer, Matt was cutting his teeth in the competitive business of global package delivery. Needless to say, he's seen a lot, and he's droppin' all kinds of knowledge bombs on listeners of all ages on this episode. From changes in tech to the ebbs and flows of labor unions to what it's like hiring for 200 countries and territories, this has it all. Shoot, we even throw in some healthy banter on the upcoming NFL season and why Chicago Bears fans should be as optimistic as they were in 1985. Da Bears, indeed.

Jun 19, 202436 min

Indeed's Staffing Shakeup

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In this episode, Chad and Lieven dive into the world of tech startups, recruitment platforms, and AI in the workplace, while Joel is busy perfecting his tan in Vietnam. Lieven plays tech guru as he explains the mind-numbingly simple three steps of Carve's AI platform and contemplates shoehorning it into their already cluttered software. Chad and Lieven then take a joyride through the chaos that is Indeed's expansion into the staffing industry, lamenting how it's going to screw over staffing companies. They toy with the naive idea of staffing companies uniting to create their own job platform, as if herding cats wasn't hard enough. The conversation wraps up with a desperate plea for the staffing industry to wake up and deal with the mess that Indeed is making.

Jun 17, 202445 min

Fraud, French AI, and Boring Acquisitions: Joonko, Mistral, and Gem

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In this episode, Chad and guest host Maureen (Mo) Clough dive into the murky waters of AI scandals and industry dynamics, starting with Joonko’s founder facing SEC charges for defrauding investors, highlighting the persistent problem of AI washing. We question ZipRecruiter’s claim of being a “great place to work” amid listener skepticism about their treatment of employees. Mistral AI’s significant funding round signals continued enthusiasm for AI technologies, while McKinsey’s research reveals accelerating adoption and notable benefits of generative AI. We also tackle ageism in tech, discuss AI's transformative potential in hiring and content creation, explore the controversy over age restrictions in restaurants, and scrutinize the issue of excessive CEO compensation, proposing that executive pay be tied to the wages of their lowest-paid workers. Join us as we unpack these hot topics with a blend of insight and snark.

Jun 14, 202452 min

SmartRecruiters Unplugged with Interim CEO Rebecca Carr

To say the ATS business is a challenging one these days would be an understatement. Between mergers and acquisitions, slumbering IPO ambitions and figuring out the whole AI Revolution, staying ahead of the game is complex. That's why we invited SmartRecruiters interim CEO and CPO Rebecca Carr to the show. She's an industry veteran with a good story to tell and as an industry product person to the bone, she can add nuance to the landscape. Covering everything from the hibernating IPO speculation to the botched acquisition with iCIMS to her time with - wait for it - Branchout, a high flying player from over a decade ago, who flamed out and die at the hand of Facebook before it really caught fire. It'a a walk down Memory Land, and a glimpse into the future that's a must-listen.

Jun 12, 202430 min

The Unicorn Parade with Jason Corsello

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The world of venture capital is a mystery to most. Who gets funded and why? What's the math around valuations? And why is there so much "betting on the jockey"? So many questions with so few answers. That's why we invited Jason Corsello, founder and general partner at Acadian Ventures, on the podcast. He'll help us better understand the unicorn parade from a few years back, which resulted in a VC winter, which has led to the gradual thawing of capital into the world of work. What kind of companies are getting his attention, and wallet share, and what advice does he give to startups looking to raise that first seed round of capital. The veils are being lifted and the crystal balls are coming out on this one. Enjoy. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 03:14 The Unicorn Parade and VC Winter 07:16 Opportunities for Seed Investors 10:23 The Thaw and the Future of Venture Capital 16:23 Investment Themes: AI, Compliance, and Global Workforce 22:36 Advantages and Disadvantages of Incumbents in Leveraging Data 23:53 Challenges of Integrating HR Tech Systems 26:15 Evaluating Startup Pitches and the Importance of Referrals 29:55 Evaluating European Startups vs. US Startups 33:49 The Potential for Disruption in the ATS Market 35:23 Best Bets, Worst Mistakes, and Missed Opportunities in Venture Capital

Jun 10, 202436 min

Ashby Gets Cash, Seek Pulls Out, and Hockey Hooters

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Get ready for another wild ride with the Chad & Cheese Podcast! Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash kick things off by gushing over Ronaldo and reminiscing about D-Day, because why not mix soccer and history? Shoutouts abound, from Dennis "Tepperdamis" Tupper's eerie predictions to Sweet Green's robot salad makers. Next up, they dive into Ashby's latest funding round, wondering if this ATS can stay the "hot chick" in a fickle market. Seek pulls out of Latin America, and Chad has some colorful memories of OCC Mexico. The guys then shred Rubio's Coastal Grill for blaming California's $20 minimum wage for their bankruptcy and eviscerating Walmart's "generous" employee bonuses. Flight attendants are fed up, and Chad channels his inner union boss, while Joel fears the future of paid service for basic flight amenities. Finally, in the most important segment of all, an Edmonton Oilers fan's flashing antics spark a debate on the year of the boobs. Because, really, what's a podcast without some hockey Hooters? Tune in for laughs, rants, and the inevitable dad joke to cap it all off. Chapters with Timestamps 00:00 - Opening Banter 02:21 - D-Day 05:53 - Tupper Indeed Prediction 08:10 - Recfest, Singapore, & Guest Hosts 15:01 - Ashby more like Cashby 22:53 - Seek Pulls Out 28:48 - Walmart & American Airlines BS 42:24 - Hockey Hooters

Jun 7, 202445 min

Shredded: Deel, Ashby, Indeed Flex, Dice, Carv, Ph.Creative, ClearanceJobs, HappyDance & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Jun 6, 20245 min

The Evolution of the Workforce with Janine Yancey

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Recorded LIVE from Transform earlier this year. This episode explores the dynamic changes in the modern workplace including in-depth conversations with Janine Yancey, the CEO and founder of Emtrain. With her rich background as an employment lawyer and her innovative work, Janine provides unique perspectives on transforming HR practices, compliance training, and workplace culture. Episode Chapters 0:00:00 - Podcast Intro 0:00:23 - Live from Transform Las Vegas 0:00:42 - Welcoming Janine Yancey 0:01:03 - Janine Yancey's Background 0:04:03 - Differentiating in a Competitive Market 0:06:10 - Partnerships with Industry Leaders 0:07:39 - Developing Management Skills 0:08:26 - Measuring Team Chemistry 0:09:49 - Building a Unified Team Culture 0:11:00 - Launching New People Analytics Tools 0:14:02 - The Impact of AI on Work 0:17:20 - Evolution of the Workforce

Jun 5, 202422 min

Gerry Tales from Unleash

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To know industry icon Gerry Crispin is to love Gerry Crispin. And if you missed our Gerry Tales series, do yourself a favor and check it out at https://www.chadcheese.com/gerry-crispin. Then come back for an after-hours interview with Gerry live from Unleash in Las Vegas. It's a walk down Memory Lane, a breath of fresh air for our times, and a sobering forecast of where things might be going. Chapters: 0:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 0:00:35 - Gerry Crispin's Background 0:02:17 - Early Days and Formation of CareerXroads 0:03:09 - The Internet and Job Boards Revolution 0:05:49 - Writing and Publishing the First Book 0:14:45 - Transition to Building a Community 0:16:35 - Reflecting on the Evolution of Talent Acquisition 0:17:31 - AI and the Future of Recruiting 0:19:42 - Current State of Talent Acquisition Technology 0:25:11 - Improving Recruiting Efficiency and Integration 0:30:40 - DEI and the Supreme Court Decision Impact 0:36:01 - Corporate Responsibility and Community Engagement 0:37:01 - Insights from the UNLEASH Conference 0:38:16 - Conclusion and Gerry’s Contact Information

Jun 3, 202443 min

Exposed: Indeed Masterplan | Cornerstone'd & SkyHive'd as a Kite

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This week, the boys cover a wide range of topics, including favorite new TV shows, shoutouts, events, and industry news, including a possible meltdown at DailyPay and a day of reckoning for Joonko. They dig into the recent acquisition of Teamable by Humanly and the acquisition of SkyHive Technologies by Cornerstone OnDemand. Plus, the uncover Indeed's strategic plans for market expansion shared on a corporate video. Then, WeWork better beware, 'cause Chuck E. Cheese is coming for a piece of its pizza pie as a remote workspace of choice. 00:00 - Intro and Entertainment 03:51 - Industry News and Acquisitions 13:11 - Events and Celebrations 18:39 - Humanly Acquisition 26:26 - CornerSone Acquisition 26:52 - Indeed's Market Expansion Strategy 27:34 - Challenges of Skills-Based Hiring 43:37 - Chuck E. Cheese as a Remote Workspace

May 31, 202446 min

Shredded: Indeed, Cornerstone OnDemand, Humanly, Teamable, DailyPay, 10x.team, Jobtoolz & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

May 30, 20246 min

Cancel Culture and Respectful Disagreement with Justin Jones-Fosu

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The pendulum goes back-and-forth. In 2021, a survey was published that showed people had never been more afraid to speak their minds (a shocking 9 out of 10 people have felt emotionally or physically unsafe to speak their mind more than once in the past 18 months. Unsurprisingly, the conversation topics that have generated the most fear include political or social issues (74%) and COVID-19 issues (70%). It was the peak of MeToo and George Floyd cancel culture. Fast forward to today, and thought leaders from Professor Scott Galloway to James Carville are pushing back. It's a lot to digest. That's why we invited Justin Jones-Fosu, founder and CEO of Work. Meaningful. to the show. Author of the upcoming book "Respectfully Disagree," Justin and the boys cover a wide array of topics that many are afraid to bridge, but shouldn't be. If you've ever found yourself keeping quiet, instead of engaging, this is a must-listen. And if you speak your mind on every occasion to do so, it might just be for you too.

May 29, 202441 min

Indeed's 'Dumb Tax' & Seekout Cuts

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys discuss their experiences in Scotland, including trying haggis and visiting distilleries. They also give shoutouts to Jobs on Google and Workplace by Facebook. The hosts talk about upcoming events and the differences between Glasgow and Edinburgh. They also share their visit to Glenkinchie distillery and their tasting experience. The conversation covers their experiences in Scotland, the Glasgow event, and insights from the event. Plus, they discuss the layoffs at Seekout and the challenges the company is facing. They also talk about Indeed's decision to prioritize paid postings over organic traffic, increasing the "dumb tax" on lazy employers. 00:00 - Exploring Scotland: Haggis and Distilleries 12:26 - Glasgow vs. Edinburgh: Contrasting Cities 15:33 - Tasting Experience at Glenkinchie Distillery 16:29 - Experiences in Scotland 23:08 - Challenges at Seekout: A Go-to-Market Problem 31:59 - Indeed's Shift to Paid Postings 35:38 - Reducing Reliance on External Platforms

May 24, 202439 min

Shredded: Seekout, Meta, Workvivo, LinkedIn, fynk, Code Nation, VEDA & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

May 23, 20246 min

Talkin' 'Bout a Revolution with Fuel50 Founder & CEO

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On this episode, the boys are chatting with Anne Fulton, founder and CEO of Fuel 50. They dive into the impact of AI on businesses, the revolution in talent management, and the evolution of education in a skills-based economy. Anne emphasizes the importance of employee voice, data-driven change, and branding in today's workforce. Discover the origin of Fuel 50's name and its mission to match people with opportunities. Don't miss this lively discussion on HR, talent management, and the future of work. Connect with Anne and learn more about Fuel 50 at fuel50.com.

May 22, 202427 min

What's Next for Tech Talent with Mark Chaffey

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According to Layoffs.fyi, over 200,000 tech industry employees lost their jobs in 2023, and almost 50,000 have already been laid off this year. So what's going on? Well, it's complicated, but - spoiler alert - the world isn't ending for tech pros looking for great opportunities. To help us make sense of it all, we invited Mark Chaffey, CEO at Hackajob on the podcast to understand it all. What's the impact of generative AI and ChatGPT on tech jobs? How can junior tech pros evolve? And what is going on with seed round-level startups after the dust has settled. If you hire techies, it's a must listen to survive today's challenging landscape.

May 20, 202437 min

Indeed Layoffs, ZipRecruiter Cat Turds & Eightfold Smoke and Mirrors

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This week, the boys discuss various topics including Indeed's layoffs, the ban on lab-grown meat in Alabama, Jerry Seinfeld's commencement speech, and the financial struggles of ZipRecruiter. They also dig into the introduction of Eightfold Talent Tracking, and the partnership between Stack Overflow and Indeed. They express their disappointment with ZipRecruiter's performance and call for better leadership. They criticize Eightfold for expanding too quickly and losing focus, and they mock the buzzword-filled description of their new product. They also question the strategy behind Twitter's, er, X's job recommendations and express their frustration with the lack of innovation. Finally, they discuss the controversy surrounding the Portal Project between New York and Dublin and how an OnlyFans model reminds us how much we all love boobies ... or is it potatoes? Eh, just listen.

May 17, 202455 min

Shredded: Indeed, ZipRecruiter, Upwork, Fiverr, Anthropos, Sona, Worky, Sesame, AimHi Earth & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

May 16, 20249 min

Firing Squad: HR Geckos' Jay Polaki

Jay Polaki, CEO and founder of HR Geckos, joins the Chad and Cheese Podcast for a session of Firing Squad. HR Geckos is an HR operations co-pilot that automates key HR processes, connects all HR systems, and provides an AI-powered help desk for HR. Jay shares her personal journey in HR and the inspiration behind starting HR Geckos. The company aims to replace fragmented HR systems with a unified, digital platform that connects employees to the information and services they need. Jay discusses the competitive landscape, pricing, go-to-market strategy, and the importance of partnerships. The hosts provide feedback and advice on raising funds, building a team, and scaling the business. Does she survive the Firing Squad? Gotta listen to find out.

May 15, 202435 min

The HR Circus: Juggling Budgets, Boomers, and Blunders

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Strap in for another episode of HR's most irreverent show where we dive headfirst into the HR abyss. The Chad & Cheese sit down with John Baldino, a man who’s been around the HR block longer than our interns have been alive, and dissect everything that's hilariously wrong (and sometimes right) in the world of human resources. Fear Factor: HR Edition: Why is HR so terrified of the C-suite? We'll explore the existential dread of asking for more budget and why HR prefers to live in the land of "No Money, Mo' Problems." Tech Wreck Tech Deck: Listen as we ridicule the shiny new HR technologies that promise the moon but deliver a piece of cheese. John breaks down why these tools often end up as expensive digital paperweights. The Boomerang Boomers: Why are retirees flooding back to the workforce? Is it for the love of the job or just because they can't afford Netflix on their pensions? We'll look at why the golden years are now being spent in cubicles rather than on cruises. Leadership or Lack Thereof: Get ready for John's rant on why today's HR leaders might just be masquerading as competent professionals. Spoiler alert: It involves a lot of snark and some uncomfortable truths about leadership (or the absence of it). Tune in for an episode that promises to be as enlightening as it is entertaining, with plenty of laughs, a few cringes, and maybe some existential questioning of your career choices. Don't forget to leave your sensibilities at the door—this ride isn’t for the faint of heart or the humorless in HR.

May 13, 202424 min

UpWork is Blowin' Up, Unleash's 'Magic' Trick

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Live from Unleash in Vegas, the boys are covering the conference and all the wild 'n' wonderful things they've done with sponsors Outhire.ai, Jobpixel and Plum (while looking good in some Montreal Canadiens jerseys from HiringBranch), while also covering some of the hottest news from the week. What's that, you ask? How about Upwork crushing their quarterly earnings, a "Big Nude Boat" cruise and a roundup of all things Unleash, which included a keynote from Magic Johnson. Plus, new CEOs at VONQ and a new CTO at iCIMS. Enjoy.

May 10, 202438 min

Shredded: VONQ, UpWork, iCIMS, Kelly Services, Job&Talent, SonicJobs, OfferUp & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

May 9, 20246 min

Revving to a HireRoad with Kristen Boyle

In this episode of HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, co-hosts Chad and Joel are joined by Kristen Boyle, the vibrant VP of Marketing at HireRoad. Recorded live on day two of the Transform conference in Las Vegas, the episode dives deep into Kristen's recent career move, HireRoad's strategic direction, and her insights on the evolving HR technology landscape. Highlights: - Kristen introduces herself, sharing her six-week tenure at HireRoad and her rich history in HR tech with companies like Amazon and Indeed. - Formerly known as Ascendre, this Australian ATS has recently been rebranded as HireRoad, aiming to make a mark in the HR tech arena with new leadership and innovative products like People Insight by HireRoad. - Kristen discusses the challenges and strategies in rebranding and marketing in a competitive industry, emphasizing understanding diverse customer bases and leveraging partnerships. - The conversation turns to the role of AI and data analytics in HR, where Kristen elaborates on HireRoad's capabilities in people analytics and predictive analytics, and how these tools aid in succession planning and talent retention.

May 8, 202424 min

Booze, Gummies, and AI: A No-BS Look at HR Tech & Podcasting

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In this riotous episode, Chad and Joel are joined by Adam Posner, in what can only be described as a collaboration no one asked for but everyone will painfully endure. From discussing the endurance required to survive HR tech conferences without succumbing to the temptations of free booze and dubious gummies, to diving headfirst into the murky waters of AI and vaporware, no topic is off-limits and no vendor is safe. Whether you're an HR veteran or just trying to get through your commute without falling asleep at the wheel, tune in for a mix of brash opinions, occasional wisdom, and relentless mockery of everything the HR tech industry holds dear. Just remember, you were warned. So buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride, and by the end, you might just find yourself wishing you had spent your time doing literally anything else.

May 6, 202418 min

LinkedIn Plays Games & Hired.com Takes Dirt Nap

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This week, the boys discuss various topics including their upcoming trips, shoutouts to listeners, the NFL draft, AI girlfriends, and the shutdown of Hired.com. They also touch on LinkedIn's revenue growth despite a weaker hiring environment. LinkedIn has launched three in-app games to engage users and potentially monetize through a subscriptions model. The games aim to make the platform more sticky and increase user engagement. This move is part of LinkedIn's strategy to expand beyond recruiter seats and tap into the larger market of marketing and advertising spend. While the games may not have a significant impact on revenues, they are a step towards making LinkedIn a more captivating platform.

May 3, 202439 min

Shredded: LinkedIn, DailyPay, Greenhouse, Tesla, Job&Talent, Advantage.ai, Grayscale & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

May 2, 20246 min

Happy Rebels in Recruitment with Rika Coppens

Welcome to the “HAPPY REBELS,” episode a no-holds-barred journey through the chaotic, snark-filled corridors of human resources with the fearless Rika Coppens at the helm. As CEO of House of HR, Rika tears down conventional walls, sometimes literally, all while her company pulls in cool billions. Want to learn how to balance being a Happy Rebel and a powerhouse CEO? Or maybe just figure out whether chatbots are killing your vibe more than your operational inefficiencies? Dive into the depths of European HR like never before, from the comfort of your own headphones. Forget the bland and the boring—here, it’s all about shocking stats, bold strategies, and a sprinkle of HR snark, because who says employment strategies have to be dry? Not us, and certainly not Rika. Buckle up; it’s going to be a rebelliously enlightening ride!

May 1, 202428 min

Transforming Talent Acquisition into a Revenue Engine with Data

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In this episode, Desiree Goldey, director, talent operations & culture at ZRG Partners, dives into the transformation of talent acquisition (TA) from a cost center to a revenue driver. She underscores the pivotal role of data in showcasing TA's contribution to revenue growth through metrics like cost per hire and quality of hire. Goldey emphasizes the need for HR and TA to collaborate closely with other departments, such as marketing, to enhance overall efficiency. She also touches on the impact of automation on recruiting processes and the future of HR in a more automated and flexible landscape. Goldey advocates for updating outdated processes and embracing a hybrid work model for better talent management. She concludes with a call for data-driven decision-making in HR and TA, especially in diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.

Apr 29, 202429 min

Workday A.I. vs EEOC

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This week, Chad & Cheese discuss various topics including the EEOC targeting Workday, non-competes taking a hit, and the acquisition of Pivot CX by Daxtra. They also talk about their upcoming events in Scotland and Vegas, jumping off the Stratosphere, as well as the ban on TikTok. The conversation covers a range of themes including technology, acquisitions, events, and current news. They discuss recent developments at ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, and Workday. They also touch on the banning of non-compete agreements, the raising of the salary threshold for overtime eligibility, and the unionization of Volkswagen workers in Chattanooga. The conversation concludes with a discussion on a TikTok influencer partnering with Shake Shack and Chipotle's success with their new chicken offering ... take that, Chik-fil-A.

Apr 26, 202455 min

Shredded: Workday, Rippling, Greenhouse, Langdock, Keep Company, ShiftMed & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Apr 25, 20247 min

Diversity or Diversion? The Blair Fambro Confessions

Brace yourselves for the roller coaster ride of snark that is the "Chad and Cheese Podcast." It's your audacious dive into the world of HR, where co-hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman take no prisoners and spare no feelings. Each episode is a concoction of brash opinions, industry insights, and a healthy dose of mockery, aimed at anyone within earshot. Join us as we dissect the recruiting world, interview industry bigwigs like Blair Fambro from Hershey, and generally wreak havoc in the most delightful way possible. If you're looking for political correctness, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

Apr 24, 202421 min

Here's Why Executive Search is Whack!

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In this podcast episode, the boys chat with Kyle Samuels, founder & CEO at Creative Talent Endeavors. The conversation revolves around the intricacies of executive search, focusing on retained executive search and its traditional practices. The discussion highlights the challenges and dynamics of the industry, including high fees, limited diversity, and the impact of remote work on recruitment. Kyle emphasizes the importance of human connection in the workplace and suggests ways for startups to navigate their first executive search. The episode concludes with a light-hearted note about Kyle's favorite Taco Bell meal.

Apr 22, 202431 min