The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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In this rollicking episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, where HR tech is served with a side of sass, we dive deep with Scott Morris, the brainiac behind Propulsion AI. Scott, who's apparently decided that regular HR is just too mundane, has set out to jazz up the hiring process by making it all about outcomes, not just ticking off tasks. He's got AI doing the heavy lifting, crafting job descriptions faster than you can say "synergy," and making roles so clear, even Chad might understand them. They chat about the wild west of HR tech challenges, why your company's employment brand might need a glow-up, and how AI can scale up recruitment without scaling up headaches. Scott spills the beans on Propulsion AI's secret sauce for reducing the hiring hassle, from evolving job postings to the crystal ball gazing of job matching. The duo grills him on everything from marketing moves to who they're gunning for, compliance conundrums, and the big bucks of compensation. But it's not all smooth sailing; Chad and Cheese challenge Scott on whether Propulsion AI is the hot new thing or just another HR tech flash in the pan. Buckle up for some sharp insights, a few laughs, and maybe even eternal peace and prosperity. OK, maybe not the last part. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Propulsion AI and Scott Morris 06:00 The Genesis of Propulsion AI 10:08 Challenges in the HR Tech Space 13:07 The Role of AI in Job Descriptions 15:50 Scalability and Employment Branding 16:50 Navigating Recruitment Challenges 19:27 The Evolution of Job Postings 24:26 Future of Job Matching 26:05 Marketing Strategies for PropulsionAI 30:19 Understanding the Target Market 31:58 Compliance and Compensation Insights 36:01 Facing the Firing Squad: Tough Questions

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Darnell Hill, Vice President of Talent Acquisition at AAA Mountain West Group, joins The Chad & Cheese to discuss the company's transformation and his insights into the HR landscape. He shares how AAA is redefining its brand beyond its traditional association with roadside assistance, venturing into areas like AAA Smart Home and auto repair partnerships, while also reflecting on past initiatives. The conversation explores unexpected trends in 2024. Looking ahead to 2025, Hill underscores AI’s potential to enhance hiring quality, going beyond just improving the candidate experience. He also discusses employee retention and development strategies, advocating for micro-learning and prioritizing candidates with growth potential over those with strictly relevant experience.

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the hosts blend personal anecdotes with industry analysis, starting with humorous shout outs and personal stories. They tackle serious topics like the challenges women face in the workplace, focusing on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives, and discuss the implications of recent government layoffs on the workforce. The conversation provides insights into the political climate and how it influences employment policies. They also share their travel plans, adding a personal touch to the discussion, while emphasizing opportunities for recruiters amidst a shifting job market due to layoffs. The episode delves into the evolving job market, highlighting how AI, particularly DeepSeek's disruptive AI model, is reshaping employment and industry dynamics. They discuss the competitive tech environment between the U.S. and China, the rise of startups in response to economic changes, and industry news like OpenAI's advancements and Textio's struggles. The episode concludes on a lighter note with a discussion on AI boyfriends, exploring the broader societal shifts in technology and human relationships. Emi Beredugo enlightens the boys on the finer points of dating and why apps like Tinder and Hinge suck so badly. Blame it all on dudes, as usual. Grab a bottle of Chicken Cock and enjoy.

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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the political circus, focusing on how Europeans are snickering at Donald Trump's presidency. They question if the U.S. foreign policy is more like a toddler with too many toys or an actual strategy and ponder whether Europe might finally unite to tackle global shenanigans. They tackle the rise of authoritarianism - because who doesn't love a good dictator story? - and discuss how military spending might be the new diet plan for social services. The episode also turns the spotlight on the U.S.'s role in Ukraine, asking if it's more of a "hero" or "meddler" narrative. For a lighter note, they explore the economic rollercoaster of trade policies and the recruitment industry's attempts to not fall off. The conversation shifts to the French job board Welcome to the Jungle, which seems to be having an existential crisis, and how European companies are aiming for America and the UK to keep up with market mood swings. Next up, is the much anticipated "Who'd Ya' Rather?" game, where the boys put two startups, Maki and Talent Mapper, on the hot seat, dissecting their recruitment and engagement strategies like a couple of culinary critics at a food fight. And because every good podcast needs a health segment, they delve into the German love affair with sick leave - exploring if it's a cultural quirk or a silent protest against work. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Context of the Podcast 01:51 - European Perspectives on Trump and His Policies 05:01 - Geopolitical Implications of U.S. Actions 09:01 - Economic Challenges 12:09 - Trump's Foreign Policy and Global Priorities 15:10 - Layoffs and Market Focus in Recruitment 17:41 - Final Thoughts and Reflections on the Future 18:25 - Challenges in the European Job Market 23:46 - Emerging Trends in HR Tech 30:58 - Sick Leave Trends in Germany 38:39 - Closing Thoughts and Humor (C'mon, you know!)

Onstage at Outsolve's HR Gumbo Conference in New Orleans, Keith Sonderling, the former Commissioner of the EEOC, joins Chad & Cheese to discuss major trends in employment discrimination and the evolving role of AI in HR. He notes a significant spike in discrimination charges post-recession, particularly age discrimination, followed by increases in sexual harassment, equal pay, and racial discrimination claims due to various societal movements and events. Sonderling highlights the broad applicability of the Executive Order on Cybersecurity across all sectors and the challenges of managing discrimination claims, especially with the rise in religious exemptions post-COVID vaccine mandates. He also addresses the complexities of returning to office post-pandemic, disability discrimination, particularly mental health claims, and generational workplace dynamics. The conversation delves into the legal implications of AI in hiring, emphasizing the need for bias audits and the potential for AI to reduce traditional hiring biases if properly implemented. Lastly, the guys touch on the legislative landscape for AI in HR and the risks of fraud in emerging tech like the metaverse, concluding with the importance of clear policies and verification processes to ensure fairness and compliance.

"Brace yourselves, because this week, the chaotic trifecta of Chad, JT, and Mo are reporting on the apocalypse—with a generous helping of snark. From MrBeast and Employer.com bidding to turn TikTok into their playground to STEM content creators cashing checks on OnlyFans and Pornhub (science is sexy now?). Plus, Chad dubs this administration the 'Fellatio Era' (yeah, you read that right). Tune in for the hot takes, bad accents, and questionable beer-fueled analogies. Warning: Don’t listen at work unless you’re ready to explain why you’re cackling uncontrollably. We out!" Chapters 00:00 JT and Mo are in the house! 06:46 Humor in the Job Market 10:01 Thought Leadership and Branding 13:36 Dismantling DEI Initiatives 22:00 Hiring Freeze and Return to Office Policies 24:09 Navigating Job Market Challenges 25:36 The Impact of Remote Work Policies 27:13 Understanding Workforce Dynamics 28:46 The Role of Immigrants in the Job Market 30:54 The TikTok Shutdown and Its Implications 32:55 Mr. Beast and the Future of TikTok 40:29 Pornhub vs YouTube - STEM Content

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In this hilarious installment of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, Lieven joins the boys as they embark on a wild ride through Europe, sharing tales of cultural faux pas and giving shout-outs that'll make you spit out your coffee. Buckle up as they dive into Belgium's bold new laws for sex workers - because who knew bureaucracy could be so sexy? But wait, there's more! They tackle the elephant in the room, or should we say, the AI in the workplace? ChatGPT's on the scene, and it's not just for writing your grandma's birthday cards anymore. It's revolutionizing recruitment, turning headhunters into tech-hunters. Then, it's a somber stroll through Germany's economic woes - because nothing says "comedy gold" like discussing inflation in the land of beer and pretzels. Nicht gut! Prediction time! Lieven dons his prophetic hat to predict the staffing industry's future in 2025 from a European POV, where AI is the new HR MVP. Then they navigate the GDPR minefield on LinkedIn, where American tech giants are learning that in Europe, privacy is not just a suggestion ... especially in Ireland. The episode rounds off with a look at the new kids on the recruitment block - startups that might either be the next big thing or just another flash in the pan, including CoachHub, Popp AI and Talentium. All this, served with a side of their signature snark and belly laughs Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Setting the Scene 03:01 - Cultural Observations and Travel Experiences 05:59 - Shout Outs and Humor in European Contexts 09:01 - Legislation and Rights for Sex Workers in Belgium 12:03 - Technological Innovations: ChatGPT and Scheduled Tasks 15:00 - Economic Challenges in Europe: Layoffs and Market Trends 22:00 - Predictions for 2025: The Future of Recruitment and AI 25:34 - Optimizing Job Applications with AI 30:00 - LinkedIn's GDPR Challenges and Implications 40:02 - Buy or Sell: Evaluating New Recruitment Startups 57:01 Closing Thoughts and Humor (So Much Humor)

In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, J.T. O'Donnell crashes the party, diving headfirst into the chaotic whirlpool that is today's job market and recruitment tech. They start by roasting the good ol' resume, with J.T. proclaiming it's about as useful as a screen door on a submarine in this AI-driven world. Next up, they tackle the plight of Harvard MBA grads, who apparently can't even buy a job in this economy. One in four of these overachievers are sitting at home, probably wondering if their fancy degrees are just expensive wall decor. The show then takes a detour into corporate shenanigans, spotlighting DHI Group's Dice and ClearanceJobs, which are cutting costs like they're prepping for a zombie apocalypse. Layoffs? More like "strategic headcount adjustments," am I right? On the acquisition front, Shaker Recruitment Marketing gobbled up JobAdX, which might make Appcast lose sleep, assuming JobAdX goes on the offensive ... unlike Joe Shaker's beloved Chicago Bears this season. The tech talk doesn't stop there; LinkedIn's new AI tools are supposedly going to make job hunting as easy as swiping right on Tinder, plus help small to medium-sized businesses use LinkedIn for hiring where they looked to ZipRecruiter or Indeed previously. And then there's TikTok, teetering on the edge of oblivion, potentially turning all those TikTok millionaires back into regular folks with regular jobs. Lastly, they zero in on Mark Zuckerberg for some Big Meta Energy, whose recent decisions at Meta scream either "mid-life crisis" or "I've lost the plot" ... take your pick. They speculate on AI's future, with middle managers on high alert, fearing their cushy jobs might soon be as relevant as a fax machine. So, grab your popcorn (or your resume, for nostalgia), and tune in for a snarky, humorous breakdown of the job market's latest and greatest.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Gerry Crispin crashes into the Chad & Cheese podcast live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA. With a cool 53 years in recruiting under his belt, Gerry takes us through his career, where he picked up a few nuggets of wisdom along the way, all while sticking to the golden rule of fairness—thanks, Johnson & Johnson! After dipping his toes in J&J, Roche, and a fancy boutique executive search firm, he’s got stories for days, each one teaching him more about this wild recruiting world. When it comes to advice, Gerry’s simple: master the basics, like understanding comp and benefits. If you’re not on top of that, you’re basically flying blind. Sure, recruiting’s a grind, but Gerry’s still loving it, crediting job shadowing (even some low-key undercover ops) for helping him truly get the lay of the land. As for the whole "AI is coming for your job" panic, Gerry’s not worried. AI’s impact is more "enhancer" than "job destroyer," he says, and it’ll just make everything smoother by crunching numbers and improving the candidate experience. But he’s seriously annoyed that Talent Acquisition leaders aren’t jumping on the AI bandwagon fast enough. Get with the times, people! He wraps up with a classic Gerry line: find a company that matches your values, take the initiative, and stay positive. He’s still in the game with CareerXroads, bringing optimism and action to the recruiting table—no room for negativity here!

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Joe Shaker dropped recruitment truth bombs with a side of optimism. Want to know the secret to winning the talent war? Or how MarTech is set to shake up hiring in 2025? Joe’s insights might just save your branding strategy—and your sanity.

In this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year's predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on stage. They then throw the mic to some guests: Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting & Onboarding at UPS Emi Beredugo, Senior Manager, Recruiting Enablement Lars Schmidt, Found, CEO at Amplify Talent Rebecca Volpano, VP of Product Marketing at Cielo Sean “Teddy” Behr, CEO @ Fountain Stephen McGrath, Product Experience Manager at Poetry AND our favorite Scot 3 years running Tim Meehan, Principal @ Talent River Consulting J.T. O’Donnel, Founder / CEO at Work it Daily Each bravely offers their crystal ball takes for 2025, proving that diversity in thought might just save us from another year of looking like fools. The chat veers into the ever-evolving world of recruitment, where automation and AI are the new cool kids on the block, turning the job hunt into something from a sci-fi flick. They ponder the future of work, asking if resumes will go the way of the dodo, replaced by digital dossiers or perhaps just a well-timed TikTok dance. Among the 2025 predictions: a parade of IPOs, European startups becoming the new Silicon Valley, and programmatic ad spending shifting like sands in an hourglass. In the end, it's all about adapting to tech that's moving faster than your grandpa at an all-you-can-eat buffet, and meeting the job seekers' expectations, which are now as high as Cheese's hair on a good day. Tune in for laughs, learning, and maybe a little life-changing tech talk. 00:00 - Welcome Back and Holiday Reflections 03:01 - 2024 Predictions Recap 05:56 - Guest Predictions for 2025 26:30 - Lars Schmidt 28:06 - The Future of Work: Automation and AI 29:52 - The Role of Technology in Hiring 36:06 - Automation in Recruitment: Perspectives from Industry Leaders 41:06 - Candidate Experience and the Evolution of Hiring Practices 44:00 - The Death of the Resume: A New Era in Job Applications 47:01 - Predictions for 2025: IPOs and Market Trends 51:56 - The Future of European Startups 54:55 - Programmatic Ad Spending: Trends and Predictions

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In this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.” We cover Appcast’s rise from "rail builder" to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, "Daddy Warbucks" Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hold back—and might admit to ruffling some agency feathers. We also dive into why recruitment tech still struggles with basics like “Does this candidate meet the job requirements?” and whether industry leaders are the next Blockbuster in a Netflix world. Plus, Chris answers the big question: What even IS Appcast? Packed with sharp insights, laughs, and maybe a cheese joke (Chris loves dairy farms), this episode is a must-listen for HR pros, tech geeks, and anyone curious about the chaos behind the scenes.

"Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Jason Pistulka—Assistant VP of Talent Acquisition Operations at HCA Healthcare—graces us with his presence to drop some truth bombs on recruitment. Spoiler alert: he's not here to hand out AI participation trophies. Jason throws shade at the industry’s blind faith in AI as a recruitment savior, arguing that maybe, just maybe, getting your operational act together would be a better idea. He spills the tea on HCA's branding game—giving their hospitals local names to charm their markets—and flexes their scale and healthcare cred like a boss. Oh, and remember the COVID hiring apocalypse? HCA brought on 200 new recruiters like it was nothing. Now that the chaos has died down, it all seems almost quaint. Jason also calls out vendors for struggling to grasp the size of HCA’s operation (hint: it’s big) and says they need a crash course in "How HCA Rolls." He’s all about their talent transformation roadmap and teases some snazzy automation initiatives to make recruitment smoother and data capture less of a dumpster fire. As for AI picking candidates? Nah, Jason’s not buying the hype. But he’s here for automation that makes life easier, proving that even skeptics can be pragmatic. It’s an insightful chat—if you’re into operational excellence, vendor rants, and the occasional AI side-eye."

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap Show In this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year. Featured Highlights: "ZipRecruiter is Lost" (March 2024) "Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery" (March 2024) "Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed" (June 2024) "Monster & CareerBuilder Merger" (July 2024) "Indeed Tomfukery" (August 2024) Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth analysis. Whether you’re an industry insider or just love the drama, this episode is a must-listen wrap-up of a game-changing—and occasionally ridiculous—year in HR tech.

Behold! A holiday spectacle so dazzling, so insightful, it’ll practically guarantee you a promotion (results may vary, void where prohibited, don't quit your day job). We've wrangled all our favorite (and some we just tolerated) guests from 2024 to deliver scorching hot takes on the burning dumpster fire that is talent, tech, and recruitment. Think less "fireside chat" and more "dumpster fire chat." From AI’s inevitable robot overlord takeover of recruiting (will they finally fix the ATS? Don't hold your breath) to the thrilling return of the office (aka mandatory fun times!), we've got the scoop you need to maybe survive 2025. Or at least have something to complain about at the next holiday party. Witness the assembled brain trust, including: Eileen Kovalsky from General Motors: Because even car companies need people to, you know, build cars. Adam Godson, CEO of Paradox: Hopefully, he'll explain what a paradox is without causing one. Jessica Rush, Chief Talent Officer: We're rushing to find the talent, people! Get it? (We'll see ourselves out). Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX: Because someone has to deal with the results. Stefan Premdas, Director, People Experience at sweetgreen: Hopefully, they brought snacks. J.T. O'Donnell from Work It Daily: Because you're going to need to. Julie Sowash, Executive Director and Co-founder of Disability Solutions: Providing solutions to problems you didn't even know you had! John Graham, the VP of Employer Brand Strategy, Humanity & Culture at Shaker: Because branding is everything, even when it's not. (He appears twice! Clearly, he's got a lot to say...or we messed up the guest list). Emi Beredugo: We’re not entirely sure what Emi does, but they’re here! Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze, Co-host from Europe: Bringing you takes from across the pond (probably involving better coffee). Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting, & Onboarding: The man, the myth, the onboarding legend. Lord Wei, A Member of the Science and Tech Committee in the House of Lords: Adding a touch of British pomp and circumstance (and hopefully some actual wisdom). Rebecca Carr, CEO at SmartRecruiters: Because recruiting needs to be smart, obviously. Courtney Dempsey, the Head of Recruiting at Southern Rock Restaurants: Serving up talent as hot as their chicken. Chloé Rada, the Senior Director of Talent Attraction at ZoomInfo: Zooming into the future of talent (get it?). Dean Da Costa, Senior Staff Talent Acquisition at Lockheed Martin: Recruiting the best of the best to build…stuff. Mary Battle Broxton, Leading Employer Brand and Recruitment Marketing at Tractor Supply Company: Because even tractor companies need marketing. 🎧 Smash that subscribe button NOW! Chapters 00:00 - A Special Holiday Message for YOU! 1:12 - Will AI Replace Recruiters? 7:47 - Sponsor: Shaker Recruitment https://shaker.com 8:41 - Importance of Employer Branding in Tech-Driven Recruitment 11:17 - The Uncertain Future of DEI 15:40 - Automation's Effect on Workforce Dynamics 18:22 - Return to Office Policy Comeback 24:29 - Sponsor: Paradox AI https://www.paradox.ai/ 24:59 - Sponsor: Job Pixel https://www.jobpixel.com/ 26:10 - Immigration and Workforce Challenges 30:17 - Shocking Layoffs of 2024 35:30 - Tech Trends of 2024 that Stand Out 38:33 - So in 2024, What Surprised You the Most? 41:51 - Sponsor: Harri https://harri.com/ 42:53 - Advice for 2025

Broadcasting live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Tim Sackett—dropped some truth bombs with Joel Cheesman about the cringe-worthy mistakes corporations make in their talent acquisition hustle. Oh, and guess what? Sackett's cooking up another book, creatively titled Talent Fix Volume 2—because one wasn’t enough. Expect fresh content, hot takes, and, presumably, a few digs at HR's favorite buzzwords. Sackett didn't hold back on the AI hype train, either. Turns out, he's underwhelmed by the industry's cutting-edge "meh" when it comes to applying AI in TA. Meanwhile, corporate America is flailing with performance management as everyone adjusts to the post-pandemic reality of low unemployment. Spoiler: leaders are still allergic to honest performance conversations. Fast forward to 2025, and Sackett has a bold prediction: recruiters won't just recruit anymore—they'll transform into talent advisors, focusing on team dynamics and playing corporate therapist. Vendors, take note: Sackett thinks it's your job to coach TA leaders through this glow-up. No pressure.

Welcome to the Chat and Cheese Podcast's holiday extravaganza, where HR gossip meets holiday cheer — and no one is safe. It’s like your company holiday party, but with more alcohol and fewer awkward dance moves (maybe). Holiday Coal Recipients: The Master of Deception The Corporate Grinch The Kings of "Almost There" Holiday Heroes: The Billion-Dollar Badass The Pop Powerhouse The Viral Appetizer Wizard Final Thought: Whether you’re running from accountability or running the world, Chad & Joel see you. In a year filled with corporate antics, unlikely successes, and viral cheese pulls, they’ve made their holiday list — and checked it twice. Chapters 00:00 - Holiday Cheer and Festivities 03:08 - Family Traditions and Celebrations 06:03 - Life in Portugal vs. the U.S. 08:58 - Fantasy Football Playoffs 12:00 - Naughty and Nice Lists 15:02 - Spotlight on Successful Entrepreneurs 16:51 - Taylor Swift: A Business Phenomenon 21:42 - The Impact of AI in Recruitment 28:34 - The Rise of the Influencer Economy 32:28 - Naughty and Nice: Corporate Accountability 40:02 - Closing Thoughts and Humor

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” post on LinkedIn. She dishes on the art of getting your employees to share their stories without bribing them (much), making your company seem like a place where people want to work—not just survive. Audra also marvels at the endless buffet of fancy branding tools out there, hinting that maybe picking the right ones is better than throwing spaghetti at the wall. Her secret sauce? Tailoring messages to different roles like a personal shopper for job seekers. Oh, and she’s not here for performative diversity—she’s all about the real deal. Because in employer branding, authenticity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s the only thing standing between you and a talent drought.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, discusses her AI-powered people intelligence platform designed to integrate and analyze HR data. She shares insights on the challenges of dirty data, the importance of strategic partnerships, and the competitive landscape in HR technology. The conversation also covers funding strategies, the role of Techstars, and how Illoominus aims to provide actionable insights for HR leaders to make informed decisions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Illoominus and Noelle London 03:36 Pitching Illuminus: The AI-Powered People Intelligence Platform 08:10 Funding and Growth: Navigating the Financial Landscape 12:35 Understanding the HR Tech Landscape and Leadership 14:31 Data Integration: The Key to Effective HR Solutions 17:02 Competition in the HR Tech Space 20:43 Sales and Marketing Strategies for Growth 24:11 Defining Quality of Hire: A Complex Challenge 26:30 Direct Sales vs. Partnerships: Future Strategies 28:59 Identifying Threats and Opportunities in the Market 31:32 Facing the Firing Squad: Final Thoughts and Insights

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about pets and sleep deprivation to the unsettling news about drones in New Jersey. They delve into the implications of workplace stress and corporate responses, highlighting a controversial case of a company firing employees due to stress. The conversation shifts to the role of AI in recruitment and marketing, followed by a light-hearted update on their fantasy football league. Finally, they explore the impact of AI in education, particularly through the Khanmigo platform, which aims to assist teachers and personalize learning for students. In this conversation, the hosts explore various themes including the historical perspectives on controversial figures, the impact of AI on job markets, the challenges of hiring practices, the future of nuclear energy, and the uncertain future of TikTok in America. They discuss how AI is reshaping narratives and job searches, the importance of soft skills in hiring, and the potential of nuclear energy to meet rising energy demands. The conversation also touches on the political and economic implications surrounding TikTok's future in the U.S. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Personal Anecdotes 03:07 - Drones and Warfare: A New Era 06:01 - Workplace Stress and Corporate Responses 09:04 - AI in Recruitment and Marketing 12:03 - Fantasy Football Update 14:47 - AI in Education: Khanmigo's Impact 20:49 - Historical Perspectives on Controversial Figures 22:00 - AI and Historical Narratives 22:42 - Job Market Innovations and Challenges 27:46 - Evaluating Soft Skills in Hiring 33:58 - The Future of Nuclear Energy 41:04 - The Uncertain Future of TikTok in America

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, hosts Joel Cheeseman and Chad Soash welcome Chris Foreman, founder and outgoing CEO of AppCast. The conversation covers Chris's background, the evolution of AppCast, its market position, and the state of the job board industry. Chris shares insights on the importance of performance advertising, the challenges faced by job boards, and the dynamics of partnerships with major players like Indeed and StepStone. The discussion highlights the need for innovation and adaptability in the recruitment technology space. In this conversation, Chris discusses the dynamics of business ownership and relationships, particularly in the context of AppCast's acquisition by StepStone. He emphasizes the importance of strategic acquisitions and how they align with customer needs. The discussion also delves into the current state of programmatic job advertising, highlighting challenges in user experience and the competitive landscape. Chris shares insights on future directions for the industry and reflects on his leadership transition as he prepares to step down as CEO. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Chris Foreman and AppCast 04:50 - The Evolution of AppCast and Its Market Position 10:35 - Go-to-Market Strategy and Timing for Success 14:25 - State of the Job Board Industry 22:11 -Insights on Indeed and StepStone 30:39 - Navigating Business Relationships and Ownership Dynamics 36:02 - Strategic Acquisitions and Market Positioning 40:17 - The State of Programmatic Job Advertising 54:39 - Future Directions and Leadership Transitions Keywords AppCast, Chris Forman, job boards, recruitment technology, market strategy, performance advertising, HR industry, job marketplace, hiring trends, business insights, business relationships, acquisitions, programmatic advertising, job market, leadership transitions, stepstone, Bayard advertising, indeed.com,

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Julie Sowash, executive director of Disability Solutions, survived Chad & Cheese’s snarkapalooza to talk AI ethics, data transparency, and why hiring underrepresented talent is more than a checkbox exercise. She preached the gospel of blending tech with human connection (shocking, we know) and reminded companies that “diversity commitment” isn’t code for “nice press release.” Julie also spilled on how 2024’s economic rollercoaster crushed some dreams but made strategic DEI even more essential. Oh, and she managed to keep things heartfelt, even shouting out her co-host/husband, Chad — proving love can survive even that much sarcasm. Here are the episode chapters: 0:00:00 - Podcast Intro 0:00:25 - Meet Julie Sowash 0:01:03 - Key Advice for TA Leaders 0:02:21 - DEI Commitments vs. Corporate Retreats 0:03:46 - Ethical AI in Recruiting 0:05:34 - 2024 Market Surprises 0:07:42 - Overcoming DEI Implementation Hurdles 0:09:04 - Looking Ahead to 2025

Welcome back to HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, where Chad and Joel serve up spicy takes and recruiting truths hotter than a Nashville summer. This week, they wrangle Courtney Dempsey, the tech-savvy maestro behind Southern Rock Restaurants’ hiring empire. With 160 restaurants and a hiring strategy sharper than a deli slicer, Courtney spills the secret sauce: targeting job seekers while the rest of us are dreaming about tacos at 3 AM. Hear how she uses LLMs like they’re her personal AI attack dogs, outsmarts bigger competitors with zero chill, and recruits AARP members because, frankly, Gen Z already got their fill of side hustles. If you’re not advertising your dishwashing gigs like prime-time Super Bowl spots, you’re doing it wrong. So, grab your headphones and brace yourself. By the end, you’ll either want to revolutionize your hiring strategy or question all your life choices... possibly both. And remember, in this game, speed kills. But in HR? It also hires. Warning: Side effects of listening include spontaneous outbursts of laughter, strategic epiphanies, and reconsidering your entire recruitment budget. Proceed with caution.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Joel and Chad discuss various topics including their experiences with Chipotle and the implementation of Paradox, the impressive growth of their podcast as highlighted by Spotify's year-end wrap-up, the rise of social commerce particularly through TikTok, and the potential for LinkedIn to enhance job applications through video content. They also touch on LinkedIn's recent layoffs and speculate on the future of ERE and its SourceCon conference. In this conversation, Chad and Joel reflect on the evolution of the recruitment industry, particularly focusing on the ERE conference and its decline. They discuss the changing landscape of sourcing, the competitive dynamics between Rippling and Deel, and the implications of AI in healthcare. The conversation also touches on Walmart's recent shift in DEI policies and the booming success of OnlyFans as a content platform. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Weather Check 02:45 - Chipotle Experience and Paradox Implementation 04:19 - Spotify Year-End Wrap-Up and Podcast Growth 06:33 - Demographics and Audience Engagement 07:55 -Social Commerce and TikTok Shopping 10:04 - LinkedIn's Potential in Video Job Applications 15:50 - LinkedIn Layoffs and Future Outlook 18:01 - Gossip on ERE and SourceCon 18:34 - Nostalgia for ERE: The Rise and Fall 22:34 - The Evolution of Sourcing and SourceCon 30:29 - Rippling vs. Deel: The Competitive Landscape 33:14 - AI in Healthcare: The Future of Diagnosis 38:26 - Walmart's Shift in DEI Policies 45:32 - OnlyFans: The New Frontier of Content Creation

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Brace yourselves: The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back, this time with retired Lieutenant General Russell L. Honoré—who proves you can train and lead half a million troops and drop some epic truth bombs on HR, AI, and America’s obsession with cheap stuff. In this spicy episode, we cover: HR Meets Boot Camp: General Honoré schools us on why leading people isn’t about asking, “You’re good, right?” and walking off like a clueless middle manager. Robots Can’t Cook Gumbo: Automation might make life easier, but it’s not making you a killer bowl of Cajun deliciousness—or fixing that flat tire you’re whining about. Recruitment Woes: From the Army’s “12 teeth rule” (yes, you read that right) to recruiting Gen Z kids glued to their phones, the General doesn’t hold back on what needs fixing. Boomers vs. Gen Z: Growing up poor meant fixing TVs with tinfoil and watching The Lone Ranger without a picture. Now? Kids need a new flat screen if the remote has dust on it. Mental Health Wake-Up Call: Spoiler alert: If your employee mentions seeing floating elephants, maybe don’t just tell them to get back to work. Sprinkled with Honoré’s signature wit, biting honesty, and a dose of “adapt-or-die” wisdom, this episode delivers laughs, snark, and some much-needed perspective on leadership in a rapidly changing world. Strap in, folks—it’s time to break things (figuratively) and rebuild smarter. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro: HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast 01:21 - Leadership Lessons from the Army 02:25 - The Art of Listening to Troops 03:20 - Managing Half a Million Troops 08:33 - Automation’s Impact on Society 12:05 - The Changing Economy and Workforce 15:16 - Adapt or Die: Breaking What’s Not Broken 17:04 - Recruiting Challenges: Then vs. Now 20:36 - Addressing Mental Health in Leadership 22:12 - Closing Thoughts: People Over Profits

John Graham, Shaker’s VP of Employer Brand Strategy, hit RecFest USA with a mic drop on recruitment marketing and employer branding as we careen into 2025. His talk? A mix of AI hype, DEI drama, and a reality check for those clinging to the idea of "jobs for life" like it's still 1985. Graham’s big reveal: employer branding is less about forever and more about for now, pivoting to a launchpad for career development instead of a golden handshake into retirement. He also dove into AI, calling it both the hero and potential villain of recruitment. Sure, it’s reshaping strategies faster than you can say "algorithmic bias," but Graham threw some shade on humanity, pointing out that we’re not exactly bias-free either. His advice? Play nice with AI but keep an eye on it—like a toddler with scissors. DEI got a spotlight too, but not without acknowledging the current rebrand it’s enduring thanks to political tug-of-wars and corporate-level ghosting. He tied it all up with a forecast for 2024 tech trends: automation, AI, and video storytelling are set to dominate, but the focus will still be on keeping things human-centered. (Spoiler: robots are cool, but people still like people.) And if that wasn’t enough, Graham’s closer was basically a call-to-action to stalk—er, network with—Shaker online. Updated website, LinkedIn, the works. Because nothing says "modern employer branding" like a shameless plug.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, hosts Joel and Chad celebrate Thanksgiving with humor and insights, introducing the concept of 'jive turkeys' in the recruiting world. Discussions around their personal Thanksgiving experiences, define what a jive turkey is, and highlight notable HR Jive Turkeys of 2024. The episode also features guest insights from Emi Beredugo, Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze, and Maureen Clough aka Mo. So, grab a turkey leg, some stuffing, a beer, and get ready for fun, insights, and JIVE TURKEYS! Who earned a Jive Turkey? You gotta listen to find out. Chapters 00:00 - Thanksgiving Greetings and Context 03:02 - Jive Turkey Episode Introduction 07:00 - Defining Jive Turkey 11:05 - Jive Turkeys of 2024: Art Zeile 15:00 - Jive Turkeys of 2024: ZipRecruiter 20:55 - Guest Insights: Emmy Beredugo 22:25 - Introduction and Light Banter 25:00 - The Importance of Continuous Learning 25:59 - Critique of Corporate Diversity Efforts 34:04 -Economic Implications of Mass Deportation 40:56 -The Future of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

The boys sit down with Chloé Rada, Senior Director of Talent Attraction at ZoomInfo, a title so fancy it barely fits on a business card. With over two decades of experience (read: she’s seen it all), Chloé’s here to school us on how to build an employer brand that doesn’t scream “we’re trying too hard.” Chloé talks about her mission to snag top-tier engineering talent while rolling out international internship programs—because apparently ZoomInfo doesn’t have enough geniuses yet. She champions trial-and-error innovation, which is HR speak for “we might mess up, but hey, it’ll be memorable.” From aligning employer branding with people ops to navigating the workplace vibes during global chaos, she’s got hot takes and strategies that actually work. Oh, and she’s planning to revamp the tech stack by 2025, proving that even in HR, you gotta stay one software update ahead of the competition. Chloé also drops pro tips like leveraging employee advocacy, video storytelling, and LinkedIn (yes, LinkedIn—again) to network like a boss. If you’re ready to rethink talent attraction or just want to hear someone blend HR insights with a healthy dose of wit, this episode’s for you.

From the SmartRecruiters booth at the HR Tech conference, the guys interviewed Stefan Premdas, who transitioned from a background in biomedical engineering to HR, focusing on talent operations and recruitment at various firms before joining sweetgreen. Stefan discussed the evolving HR landscape, introducing the concept of "people experience" and how his team at sweetgreen manages the entire employee lifecycle with an emphasis on integration. He highlighted sweetgreen's approach to employee engagement and retention, leveraging automation not only to improve customer service but also to enhance recruitment efficiency and candidate experience. Stefan touched on retention strategies for recruiters, focusing on providing clear paths for future career growth, and announced upcoming initiatives like a comprehensive Employee Value Proposition exercise aimed at solidifying sweetgreen's brand identity. He also addressed the natural diversity within sweetgreen's workforce, the current state of automation in their operations, and future expansion plans. Key technology tools like their Applicant Tracking System (ATS) and video interview systems were also mentioned, underscoring the tech-driven approach at sweetgreen.

This week on The Chad and Cheese Podcast: It's a world of layoffs, aliens, and bad burgers as Chad brags about sunny Portugal while Joel freezes in the Midwest. From AI pimps hustling Instagram to job board dinosaurs facing extinction, the duo dives into an Acquisition Palooza that proves even startups can have a midlife crisis. Plus, they tackle the age-old question: How much Shake Shack can you eat at 30,000 feet? Spoiler: Not enough. Strap in for hot takes, cool beers, and the slow but inevitable collapse of humanity—now with a side of influencer drama! Takeaways The hosts share their contrasting experiences of weather and lifestyle. Current events are overwhelming, with a mix of serious and absurd news. Boxing has transformed into a scripted entertainment spectacle. The hosts reminisce about the authenticity of past boxing matches. Industry shout outs highlight the interconnectedness of recruitment platforms. Fantasy football updates reveal competitive dynamics among the hosts. Layoffs in the recruitment industry signal ongoing challenges. LinkUp's acquisition showcases the importance of real-time job data. Adzuna's acquisition aims to enhance social media recruitment capabilities. The conversation reflects on the future of recruitment advertising amidst automation. Adzuna should consider acquiring Flockety to enhance its influencer marketing capabilities. The job board industry is evolving, with a shift towards programmatic advertising and social media engagement. Companies must adapt to the changing landscape of job postings to remain competitive. JobGet's acquisition of Snagajob could revitalize the hourly worker market. Recruiter.com's acquisition of BountyJobs raises questions about the future of recruitment services. AI-driven digital employees are becoming essential in addressing the cybersecurity talent shortage. The proliferation of AI-generated influencers poses significant challenges for genuine content creators. Legislative action is needed to combat the rise of deep fake technology on social media. The recruitment industry is experiencing a wave of consolidation and strategic acquisitions. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting to technological advancements in recruitment and marketing. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Current Events 03:00 - Reflections on Boxing and Entertainment 06:03 - Shout Outs and Industry News 10:03 -Fantasy Football Update 12:01 -Layoffs and Industry Changes 15:58 -Acquisition Palooza: LinkUp and Adzuna 28:32 -The Rise of Influencer-Centric Platforms 29:52 -The Evolution of Job Boards and Programmatic Advertising 33:16 -Adzuna's Strategic Shift and Industry Challenges 34:01 -JobGet Acquires Snagajob: A New Era for Hourly Workers 42:09 -Recruiter.com Acquires BountyJobs: A Strategic Move? 47:04 - AI in Cybersecurity: The Future of Digital Employees 52:00 -The Impact of AI-Generated Influencers on Social Media

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Dean Da Costa joins Chad & Cheese to share fresh recruitment advice. He urges recruiters to challenge norms, verify AI-generated data, and focus on the human touch. Da Costa emphasizes personal branding, as candidates often research recruiters, and suggests exploring platforms beyond LinkedIn to reach diverse talent. He highlights the irreplaceable value of genuine interactions over automation and advocates for a supportive, knowledge-sharing recruiter community.

Live from the SmartRecruiters booth at the HR Tech conference in Las Vegas, the boys hosted a session with Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX, who shared insights into leveraging employee referrals for recruitment. With 20,000 employees, ResultsCX has seen tremendous success by generating over 400,000 referrals in two years, highlighting referrals as a potent yet often underutilized recruitment strategy. Patti emphasized that continuous improvement and innovation in their referral program, named ReferCX, not only reduces hiring costs but also enhances candidate quality and company culture. The program's effectiveness is boosted by integrating marketing strategies at launch and robust backend technology to handle referral tracking and bonus calculations. The company has implemented a tiered incentive system linked to employee retention and uses a leaderboard to boost engagement without extra costs. The referral initiative extends beyond immediate hires, creating a pool of future candidates, and is integrated into the company's onboarding process through a mobile app. This program, accounting for 25-30% of hires, focuses on internal culture but plans to explore external referrals and enhance gamification. The success of ReferCX is measured through clear goals, tracking, and employee feedback, demonstrating its significant impact on both employee satisfaction and retention.

This week, the boys are joined by Lieven from House of HR to discuss various topics including layoffs in the industry, the impact of AI on startups, social media regulations for youth, and recent innovations in recruitment. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by companies in the current economic climate, as well as insights into quarterly earnings reports from major players in the recruitment space. The conversation delves into the dynamics of job platforms, particularly focusing on the power struggles between major players like Indeed and ZipRecruiter. Plenty of talking about the innovations brought by AI tools in recruitment, the challenges faced by ZipRecruiter, and the potential for mergers and acquisitions in the industry. The discussion also touches on the impact of AI on the workforce, investment trends in HR tech, and a comparison of two startups, Toothio and SocialCrowd, showcasing the evolving landscape of recruitment and staffing. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 03:02 - The Impact of AI on Startups 06:00 - Social Media Regulations and Youth 09:03 - Innovations in Recruitment 14:51 - Layoffs and Economic Challenges 17:48 - Quarterly Earnings Reports and Market Trends 27:35 - The Power Dynamics of Job Platforms 29:08 - Innovations in Recruitment: The Rise of AI Tools 30:52 - The Struggles of ZipRecruiter 34:42 - The Future of Recruitment: Mergers and Acquisitions 36:44 - AI in the Workforce: Opportunities and Challenges 48:30 - Investment Trends in HR Tech 53:08 - Startups to Watch: Toothio vs. Social Crowd

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Broadcasting from the ever-glamorous Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese sit down with the powerhouse of DEI herself, Novonda Lilly, Director of DEI Campus and Community Engagement at Vanderbilt Health. Novonda schools the guys on how to navigate the choppy waters of diversity in hiring, especially with 2025 looming large. Spoiler alert: it’s not as simple as slapping a rainbow on your LinkedIn banner. Novonda doesn’t hold back, calling out the so-called “shortage of diverse candidates” and challenging recruiters to step up their game. She serves up practical advice on using social media to reach underrepresented talent, though she’s quick to throw a little shade at AI and its dicey role in hiring – because, let's be real, nobody wants a “smart” robot unintentionally screening out great people. And, if you're hoping for a warm fuzzy moment, sorry – Novonda’s here to make sure we all stay sharp and resilient. She dishes on the reality of adapting DEI strategies to market trends, and she’s already lined up LinkedIn requests from everyone who wants in on her best practices. Prepare for an episode packed with humor, hard truths, and a few digs at outdated recruiting “innovations.” Novonda reminds us that if you’re not actively building an inclusive culture, you’re just setting yourself up for 2025 – and not in a good way.

In this episode of Firing Squad, Josh Sklüt, co-founder and Chief People Officer of My Standard, discusses the innovative approach of his company as a Web3 alternative to traditional job platforms like LinkedIn. He explains how My Standard empowers users to control and monetize their professional data while addressing the shortcomings of existing recruitment methods. The conversation delves into the app's features, the challenges of candidate matching, and the future of job searching in a decentralized world. The discussion covers client success stories, the competitive landscape, and the go-to-market strategy focusing on AI jobs. Sklut also addresses challenges and critiques from the hosts regarding the complexities of blockchain and the need for effective education in the HR space. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to My Standard and Josh Sklut 05:09 - Pitching My Standard: A New Approach to Job Searching 09:54 - The Problem with Traditional Job Platforms 15:11 - Data Verification and Candidate Matching 19:51 - Monetization and Business Model of My Standard 24:45 - Challenges and Future of My Standard 17:52 - Understanding the Use Cases and Client Success Stories 19:51 - Differentiating from Competitors and Market Positioning 22:03 - Go-to-Market Strategy and Initial Focus on AI Jobs 23:57 - Team Composition and Expertise Behind MyStandard 26:04 - Exit Strategies and Future Growth Opportunities 28:04 - Facing the Firing Squad: Challenges and Critiques

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, the boys discuss various topics including Sundar's velvet hammer, LinkedIn's financial success, the recent election results and their implications, and the trend of wealthy Americans considering relocation. The conversation flows from light-hearted banter to serious reflections on political and social issues, all while maintaining a humorous tone. They discuss various topics including the results of a hybrid work experiment, the growth and innovations at LinkedIn, and Google's recent all-hands meeting where AI's impact on jobs was addressed. They explore the implications of hybrid work on productivity and employee satisfaction, LinkedIn's revenue growth and new features, and the concerns surrounding job security in the tech industry due to AI advancements. Chapters 01:03.95 - Election Commentary and European Perspective 01:13.19 - Chad in Nazaré, Portugal 01:37.89 - Travel Plans and Europe Compared to the U.S. 02:09.21 - Election Insights and Mental Health 02:41.38 - Joel Reflects on American Elections and Republican Revolution 04:21.03 - Reflections on Political Cycles and Voter Shifts 05:53.67 - Wealthy Americans Planning to Leave the U.S. 09:03.63 - Text Recruiting and Listener Shoutouts 10:45.49 - Draftboard Business Pivot 11:52.10 - Listener Art and Future Tattoo Ideas 17:20.55 - Hybrid Work Study Discussion 22:17.14 - Hybrid Work Future Predictions 24:34.07 - Immigration Impact on American Workforce 25:06.13 - LinkedIn Revenue and Global Market Growth 27:17.62 - LinkedIn AI and Coaching Feature Expansion 31:32.68 - Google's Velvet Hammer 36:03.05 - Closing Remarks and Halloween Joke

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Live from the Shaker Green Room, Mary Battle Broxton from Tractor Supply Company joined The Chad & Cheese at RecFest USA to talk AI, authenticity, and hiring without the ‘lazy applicants.’ ‘Embrace the robots, or get left in the dust,’ as Mary urges talent leaders to dive headfirst into AI tools like Paradox. Forget the old-school ways; it's all about tech-fueled, authentic candidate experiences now, where people and bots get to know each other before onboarding. Oh, and by 2025, you better be ready to keep up, or, as Mary might say, enjoy life as a digital dinosaur.

Live from the SmartRecruiters booth, Tracey Parsons, the CEO of Flockity, shared insights at the HR Tech conference in Las Vegas, drawing from her extensive 20-year background in recruitment marketing and employer branding. She highlighted the sluggish pace of change within the industry, attributing it to stakeholder resistance and a pervasive lack of genuine listening, which deteriorates candidate experiences. This oversight often stems from an employer's sense of superiority, exemplified by Amazon's challenged reputation due to its treatment of warehouse workers. Parsons noted the common occurrence of candidates being ghosted post-interview, a reflection of broader systemic failures in recruitment where candidate sentiment remains low and transparency around compensation is stifled. The friction in job application processes is often counterproductive, deterring potential talent, while companies like Amazon, despite recognizing the costs of high attrition, struggle with implementing meaningful change. Misaligned branding further complicates expectations for both candidates and employees. However, technology offers a beacon of hope by potentially streamlining interactions and enhancing communication. Parsons criticized the inefficiencies in the current job distribution model, marked by low trust in job postings, and introduced Flockity's innovative approach using influencer marketing to foster trust and improve the candidate experience. She pointed out the skewed dynamics where paid job promotions might not reflect genuine company endorsement, and content tends to emphasize skills over culture. Creators often avoid brand mentions to dodge backlash.

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Emi Beredugo discuss Halloween festivities, share a humorous story about a naked neighbor incident, and delve into the upcoming US elections from a British perspective. They also touch on the cultural impact of Taylor Swift's concerts, highlight innovative recruiting platforms, and provide updates on their fantasy football league. Then they discuss the implications of AI in recruitment, focusing on LinkedIn's new Hiring Assistant tool and its potential to streamline recruitment tasks. They explore the impact of AI on coding jobs, the evolving role of recruiters, and the challenges of integrating AI while maintaining human connection. The discussion also touches on hiring trends for 2025, emphasizing the importance of adapting to new technologies and the need for recruiters to upskill in a changing job market. Emi and Joel discuss the evolving landscape of hiring practices, particularly the shift towards skills-based hiring. They explore the mindset of Gen Z, who prioritize mental health and work-life balance over traditional hustle culture. The discussion also highlights the alarming trend of prime-age men leaving the workforce, attributing it to economic shifts and societal pressures. Finally, they delve into the implications of influencer culture on society, questioning its long-term effects on individual identity and societal values. Takeaways Halloween is a favorite holiday for many, with unique costumes and traditions. A humorous incident involving a naked neighbor showcases the unpredictability of life. The US elections are a topic of global interest, especially from a British viewpoint. Taylor Swift's concerts have a significant cultural impact, turning non-fans into fans. Innovative recruiting platforms like Poetry are changing the landscape of recruitment. The excitement and tension surrounding elections can be felt worldwide. LinkedIn's Hiring Assistant aims to automate recruitment tasks. AI is seen as a tool to enhance productivity, not replace humans. Recruiters add value through human interaction, not just administrative tasks. AI's role in coding is growing, but human oversight remains essential. The demand for upskilling in tech roles is increasing due to AI. Candidates prefer remote work and are resistant to returning to the office. Skills-based hiring is not widely adopted among employers. Recruiters are evolving to focus on workforce planning and employer branding. AI can help with communication but should not replace human touch. The future of recruitment will require adaptability to new technologies. Skills-based hiring is gaining traction as a necessary approach. Gen Z is reshaping workplace expectations with a focus on mental health. The job market is evolving, requiring creative hiring strategies. Young people today have unprecedented career options. The influencer culture is influencing career aspirations among youth. Disengagement among young men is a growing concern for society. Economic shifts are impacting traditional employment pathways. Companies must adapt to retain talent in a changing landscape. The stigma around non-college careers is detrimental to workforce participation. Understanding the motivations of young people is crucial for future employment strategies. Chapters 00:00 - Halloween Festivities and Costumes 03:02 - Naked Neighbor Incident 06:01 - US Elections and Global Perspectives 10:04 - Taylor Swift's Impact and Concert Experience 12:05 - Shout Outs and Innovations in Recruiting 16:01 - Fantasy Football Update and Competition 17:30 - AI in Recruitment: LinkedIn's Hiring Assistant 26:01 - The Impact of AI on Coding and Employment 34:11 - Hiring Trends for 2025: Balancing AI and Human Connection 43:01 - Skills-Based Hiring: A New Paradigm 46:03 - The Mindset Shift of Gen Z 54:03 - The Decline of Prime Age Men in the Workforce 01:00:53 - The Impact of Influencer Culture on Society

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.