The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Tim Sackett is back, and he’s not here to sugarcoat your broken recruiting process. From running a family staffing biz (yes, his mom started it—nepotism FTW) to launching the HR Tech 100 Fund, Sackett’s got opinions, and Chad & Cheese are here to poke the bear. Inside this episode: Why most HR tech still runs on vaporware and broken promises The Sackett philosophy: If you suck at recruiting, AI just helps you suck faster “Scale Your Suck” – his accidental book title that SHRM will never publish Why recruiters might have 18 months before AI eats their lunch (and their jobs) How execs keep saying “do more strategic work” when nobody knows WTF that actually means The coming extinction-level event for recruiters who think “tallest dwarf” = top talent This isn’t a kumbaya “AI will save us all” chat. It’s Sackett unplugged—equal parts brutal honesty, dad jokes, and career counseling for recruiters about to be replaced by bots that actually give candidates feedback. Grab a stiff drink. Season 3 is here, and it’s coming for your job description.

From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Episode 03:52 Corporate Drama: CEO Dismissals and Scandals 06:10 A Tribute to Greg Louganis: Olympic Legacy and Challenges 08:53 The Fading Glory of Olympians 09:32 International Students and the Impact of Policy Changes 13:15 Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities 15:34 Fantasy Football Draft Recap 19:14 Closing Thoughts and Future Topics 19:58 Google's Search Monopoly and Market Dynamics 22:42 The Impact of Workforce Imbalance 26:04 The Future of Google Search and Diversification 28:50 Recruitics Acquires Change State: A Strategic Move? 34:31 Meta's Leadership Shakeup and AI Focus 48:22 AI in Fast Food: Taco Bell's Experimentation

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What happens when you mix SmartRecruiters, a global AI pivot, and a comms pro who loves to “shake shit up”? You get Allyn Bailey dropping truth bombs on everything from why legacy ATS platforms should be left in a museum next to floppy disks, to how scheduling interviews is apparently the Mount Everest of HR tech problems. Joel and Chad dig into: Why “feature bloat” is killing platforms faster than a buffet kills willpower The rise of AI agents that make every TA leader feel “special” (just like their mom told them) How SmartRecruiters is “releasing the Kraken” on AI adoption—while trying not to terrify every compliance officer on Earth Why Kenya and Eastern Europe are quietly kicking everyone else’s ass on AI innovation And yes… the most celebrated use case for AI in recruiting is still… scheduling. It’s part therapy session, part roast, part masterclass in how to burn down old TA processes without getting fired. Strap in. Season 3 of The AI Sessions is here.

Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl. Expect: -Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel-Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment-Fantasy football team names that would make your grandma blush-Workday dragging Paradox into the modern era-Employ Inc.’s CEO carousel—because why settle for one clown when you can have the whole circus?-Dayforce’s $12.3B private equity soap opera-Meta’s AI drama (aka “Zuck being Zuck”) It’s business, it’s football, it’s chaos—and it’s all drenched in the unfiltered sarcasm you love. 1500 episodes later, the boys are still slinging takes hotter than a Browns fan’s rage. Chapters: 00:00Celebrating 1500 Episodes 01:24Reflections on Current Events 05:53The Future of Restaurants 06:31AI in Business: The Human Factor 09:38Travis Kelsey and Celebrity Culture 11:14Fantasy Football Team Names 18:08Workday Acquires Paradox: A Game Changer 22:18The Rise and Fall of Jobbing 26:05Workday's Strategic Moves in AI 30:18The Future of Recruitment Tech 32:41Leadership Changes in Employee Tech 40:24Dayforce's Private Equity Acquisition 45:25Meta's AI Controversies and Hiring Pause Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

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Marriott’s Tyler Weeks joins Chad & Cheese to unpack what it’s like running HR for a million humans (and possibly a few Roombas). Expect: Ritz-Carlton ghosting Joel harder than his prom date. Why Marriott’s HR is basically 9,000 mom-and-pop shops in a trench coat. The shocking discovery that AI doesn’t make great recruiters greater—it just stops the bad ones from lighting themselves on fire. CFO ROI math so sketchy it belongs in a late-night infomercial. And the big AI fix for fake résumés and deepfakes? Drag ‘em into the lobby for an old-fashioned, in-person interview. This is hospitality meets HR Tech chaos—and Tyler’s got the room service order. 🍸 Listen :)

Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays. Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Scotland’s deep-fried-pizza poet Stephen McGrath. Loud Americans, entitled tourists, and the four-day work week—this one’s got more punch than a Glasgow nightclub at 2 a.m. 👉 Press play. Europe’s never been so dangerously entertaining. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 04:15 Shout Outs and Celebrations 11:11 Upwork's Strategic Acquisitions 22:52 The Future of Staffing and Technology 38:29 Denmark's Deepfake Legislation 44:24 The Four-Day Work Week Discussion

🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind) And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you question humanity. Chapters 00:00 - Intro: Chad and Cheese, the HR comedy duo you didn’t know you needed. 02:23 - College Drop-Off Diaries: Tears, tuition, and existential dread. 05:23 - AI in Hiring: When algorithms discriminate worse than your uncle at Thanksgiving. 17:15 - AI Recruitment: Is it saving HR or just ghosting candidates with flair? 23:14 - AI Hiring Outlook: Crystal balls and code, what’s next? 24:30 - AI Marketplaces: New risks, same old corporate facepalm. 26:20 - AI Governance: Trying to tame the tech beast in talent acquisition. 29:30 - Upwork’s Lifted: Enterprise staffing with a side of swagger. 36:17 - Deel and SiriusXM/iCIMS: AI innovations meet legal oopsies. 43:33 - Government Funds Shipbuilding: Because who doesn’t want to sail into 1850? 49:41 - Humans + AI: Recruitment’s new rom-com, minus the happy ending. Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

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Domino’s isn’t just delivering pizza in 30 minutes or less anymore—they’re trying to deliver candidates, too. In this episode, we sit down with Matt King, Director of HR Tech at Domino’s, to talk AI, ATS drama, and why franchisees always have “better ideas” than corporate. From killing off Kenexa (RIP, nobody misses you) to jumping into bed with SmartRecruiters, Domino’s is betting big on speed, automation, and a sprinkle of chatbot charm. Matt spills on: Why hiring at Domino’s must be as fast as ordering a pepperoni with extra cheese. How chatbots went from clunky decision trees to almost-human assistants (minus the dad jokes). What happens when franchisees get in a room with vendors. The eternal struggle between human touch and “just let the damn bot send the background check reminder.” And yes—we even asked about the Noid. Because if Domino’s doesn’t bring him back as a recruiting chatbot, what are we even doing here? It’s tech, pizza, and questionable morals—just another day on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Sessions.

Hold onto your headphones, folks, because the Chad and Cheese Podcast is serving up a hilarious, hot-mess buffet of insights that’ll leave you laughing and maybe a little worried about your career! This episode, your hosts sling snarky banter like baristas tossing espresso shots, breezing through early chit-chat about travel woes, Coldplay’s drama-fest, LinkedIn’s questionable career tips, sports shout-outs, Walmart’s employee discount PR stunt, free swag, and fantasy football. But the real meat hits after the 15-minute mark, where they dive into the chaos facing recent grads—think degrees collecting dust while the job market laughs. The future of work gets a roasting, with the creator economy shining as the cool kid at the career fair, while AI and economic shenanigans threaten to swipe jobs faster than you can say “pivot.” Teaching’s future? It’s AI’s new playground. Silicon Valley’s traded ping-pong tables for “purpose,” but don’t get too cozy—tech employment’s a rollercoaster, and global competition’s got everyone sweating. Job boards like ZipRecruiter are wheezing in the dust, outrun by AI, and in a plot twist nobody saw coming, the hosts ponder if newspaper job ads might stage a retro comeback. It’s a wild, witty ride through the workforce’s new reality—adapt or get left behind, and maybe grab a newspaper just in case. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Banter 00:29 - Travel and Cultural Observations 02:26 - Coldplay Drama and LinkedIn Insights 04:12 - Shout Outs and Celebrating Progress in Sports 09:20 - Walmart's Employee Discount Initiative 11:00 - Free Stuff and Promotions 12:10 - Travel Plans and Upcoming Events 13:14 - Fantasy Football and Sports Culture 14:26 - Challenges for Recent Graduates 18:30 - The Future of Work and the Creator Economy 21:04 - The Impact of AI and Economic Factors on Employment 22:53 - The Future of Teaching and AI 24:49 - Silicon Valley's Shift: From Perks to Purpose 27:16 - The Changing Landscape of Tech Employment 30:21 - Global Competition and the Tech Industry 32:03 - The Decline of Job Boards and the Rise of AI 39:34 - Reviving Newspaper Job Ads: A Retro Solution? 48:27 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes

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In this episode, the boys chat with Sarah Needleman, Business Insider’s Leadership and Workplace Correspondent, formerly of the Wall Street Journal for 23 years. Her article, “If You Think Your Job Is Hard Right Now, Try Working in HR,” dives into HR’s brutal post-2020 landscape: mass layoffs (like Microsoft’s 9,000 cuts) burden HR with soul-crushing terminations, as Evan Loveless shared, facing tears and dashed hopes. AI automation shrinks HR teams, incivility spikes with employee backlash, and return-to-office mandates spark resentment over commutes and fairness. ICE raids and immigration fears—amped by Trump’s “big beautiful bill”—disrupt workplaces, with HR crafting response plans. Political uncertainty, like tariffs pausing hires, and H-1B visa exits to Canada/Europe strain talent pools. Interest in HR jobs is waning on Indeed, hinting at future shortages. Yet, many HR pros see this as a “calling” to shine via support and outplacement.

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman—HR tech's dynamic duo of snark and smarts—serve up a buffet of industry drama with their trademark banter that'll have you chuckling harder than a recruiter dodging ghosting complaints. They start by painting a gloomy economic picture, complete with workforce imbalances that feel like a bad Tinder match, plus a heartfelt nod to breastfeeding support at work (because who doesn't love a good "pumping up the team" pun?). Things get real with layoff laments, treating employees like yesterday's LinkedIn spam. Shout-outs go personal with fantasy football eulogies (RIP to those dream teams) and event plugs, alongside travel tips for jet-setting talent hunters—pro tip: pack extra patience for airport security feels. The meaty bits? SAP snapping up SmartRecruiters like it's Black Friday shopping for ATS upgrades, pondering if AI recruiting will finally make hiring less of a dumpster fire, and how it'll mesh (or clash) with SuccessFactors. Earnings chit-chat skewers Indeed and LinkedIn's numbers, roasting Indeed's Branded Boost as a "blast from the past" that's more regression than revolution. Wrapping up, they dissect the Workday lawsuit's AI bias bombshell—because nothing says "fun" like robots playing favorites—and the eerie rise of virtual hotel check-ins, where your front desk clerk might be outsourcing from halfway around the world. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Mood Setting 02:27 - Economic Concerns and Workforce Imbalances 05:23 - Breastfeeding Support in the Workplace 08:15 - Employee Treatment and Layoffs 11:13 - Fantasy Football and Personal Tributes 14:00 - Upcoming Events and Travel Info 16:59 - SmartRecruiters Acquisition by SAP 18:26 - Future of ATS and AI in Recruitment 24:16 - The Future of Success Factors and Smart Recruiters 28:51 - Earnings Season Insights: Indeed and LinkedIn 36:23 - Indeed's New Branded Boost: A Step Backward? 42:03 - Legal Implications of AI in Hiring: The Workday Case 46:33 - The Rise of Virtual Check-Ins in Hospitality

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In this episode, the boys chat with Jeff Pole, the big brain behind Warden AI, for a no-holds-barred chat about AI bias in talent acquisition. They sliced and diced a juicy report comparing AI’s quirks to good ol’ human prejudice, serving up some spicy legal takes on what happens when robots play HR. The trio threw shade at sloppy AI systems, stressing that vendors and employers better team up like superheroes to keep things fair and square—or risk a legal smackdown. They also peeked into the crystal ball for AI’s hiring glow-up, while side-eyeing the political circus messing with AI rules and preaching the gospel of audits that go beyond just checking boxes for sex and race. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to AI in Talent Acquisition 02:34 - Understanding AI Bias in Recruitment 05:29 - Comparing AI and Human Bias 08:28 - Legal Implications of AI in Hiring 11:24 - Vendor Responsibility and Compliance - Mobley v. Workday 14:17 - The Future of AI in Talent Acquisition 17:09 - Political Influences on AI Regulations 20:19 - Diversity and Inclusion in AI Audits 23:13 - Predictions for AI and Bias in the Workplace

On this week’s show: 🔌 Bold yanks the plug on Monster’s Euro-zone job boards faster than you can say “thoughtful transition.” Spoiler: if you had job credits, they’re as good as Monopoly money now. 🤡 Jamie & Doug send a painfully boring email instead of showing their faces. JT’s advice? Ditch the letter, pick up a camera, and maybe lose the flannel. 🔥 Job.com update – Turns out “we’re a tech company” means screwing over employees. 💰 Anthropic’s valuation hits $170B by cozying up to Gulf sovereign funds. Nothing says ethical AI like cash from authoritarian regimes! 🧓 ServiceNow’s CEO transforms into Uncle Baby Billy, declaring robots better than humans because they don’t need lunch. Late-stage capitalism, y’all. 🫢 Astronomer pulls a Coldplay Kiss Cam scandal and somehow turns it into a Gwyneth Paltrow-powered PR win. 👉 Listen now before all your favorite jobs get replaced by agents who don’t need to piss in garbage cans. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 06:05 Celebrating the Lionesses' Victory 08:09 Workforce Landscape 14:51 Bold and Job Market Dynamics 25:45 The Challenges of Job.com and Employee Rights 32:26 The Rise of AI 46:41 Lessons from Astronomer

Live from UNLEASH America 2025, we’re serving up serious talent strategy with Meghan Rhatigan, VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott—and spoiler alert: job boards are dying, chatbots are rising, and recruitment will never be the same. Inside this episode: 🤖 The rise (and limits) of chatbots 🔍 Why some candidates still prefer search over automation 📉 The slow death of job boards—and what comes next 🌎 How politics and immigration are reshaping DEI 🏃‍♀️ Speed vs. fit: are we hiring fast or hiring right? Meghan brings 15 years of Marriott transformation to the table—tech, transparency, and a big ol’ dose of reality. From authentic brand engagement to building a global, inclusive talent pool, this one’s packed with frontline insights HR pros and tech nerds alike will want to hear. 🎧 Tune in or risk clinging to your outdated ATS and broken career page like it’s 2015. 00:00 - In this Episode 0:27 - Meghan's Elevator Pitch 2:50 - Tech Transformation at Marriott 4:00 - What Has Changed in 15 Year Period in HR 5:55 - What Learnings Meghan Has Got in the Last 5 Years in Terms of Technology 8:56 - Chatbot vs. Search: Understanding User Preferences 10:46 - Difference Between the Application Process 12:10 - Rethinking Spend: The Decline of Job Boards 19:03 - What Marriott Does Organically to Drive Traffic and Brand Awareness 20:30 - Importance of Transparency 25:12 - What Some Political Topics Impact Marriott 27:08 - Future of Recruiting 30:57 - Speed vs. Fit in Hiring 33:08 - Products Meghan Wish Existed Today

In this episode, hosts start off with, what else, soccer snark, discussing Chelsea's Trump drama, then a little Tour de France trash-talk. Chad roasts Monster Europe's collapse, blasting Randstad and Apollo as "corporate cowards" ditching workers like bad dates. They dissect HelloWork's lawsuit against Indeed for yanking ATS feeds—Chad calls it a data domination plot, Joel bets on French PR patriotism trumping legal odds. "Buy or Sell" gets savage: MetaView's €30M note-taker? Chad and Lieven sell (no moat, just meh), Joel buys for human touch. Traxlo's €1.6M gig app? Joel and Lieven buy for retail grunt work, Chad sells (automation apocalypse incoming). Ordio's €12M deskless payroll? Joel and Lieven buy, Chad sells (pricing poultry—er, paltry). EQT X snags Adevinta's Spanish ops, InfoJobs included? PE panic—Chad and Joel scream "abandon ship!" And Paris-based Teleperformance gobbles up Agents Only, a Vancouver-based staffing company specializing in online workers for AI data annotation and customer service, which is a fancy way of saying "workers who check expiration dates on milk."

On this week's episode, Moe comes out hot and spills on "Coldplay-Gate," that viral kiss-cam fiasco where a couple (turns out, cheating execs from Astronomer) bolted like they saw a ghost. It's not just gossip—it's schadenfreude gold, highlighting how the C-suite plays by different rules. Joel highlights ZipRececruiter's most recent marketing strategy: Embracing old school linear TV by sponsoring a new show on Fox. Chad rants about the new $250 "integrity fee" for US tourist visas—because nothing says "welcome" like a cash grab that could tank tourism before the 2026 World Cup. Ashby news brings the fire, snagging a whopping $50M Series D, doubling customers (now 2,700+ like OpenAI and Shopify), boosting revenue 135%, and barely dipping into last year's Series C. Why more cash? To evolve "at the speed of AI," building all-in-one recruiting magic—sourcing, scheduling, analytics—that users call "beautiful software." No more tool sprawl; it's the startup darling dethroning clunky vets like Greenhouse. Chad's verdict: Finally, an ATS nobody bitches about—refreshing in a moan-fest industry! Then, drama alert: Bold snatches Monster and CareerBuilder assets for $28.4M in a bankruptcy auction (up from a start of $7M). Great domains, SEO juice ... but Bold's predatory paywalls (mandatory sign-ups, fees for full job deets) scream "job seeker trap." Chad's not thrilled—hopes they don't prey harder with that Monster muscle. Randstad? Total villains. They boast $5.8B revenue and 3% EBITDA margins, but screw Monster employees worldwide. Days before mass layoffs, they gutted severance: From 1.5 weeks/year (up to 16) to a flat two weeks. Imagine losing $28K if you're a 20-year vet! In France, it's worse—brutal shutdowns, no support, leaving taxpayers footing unemployment bills. Vendors? Stiffed millions after Monster ran up tabs they knew were doomed. Chad's furious: "Corporate welfare at its finest." Until CEOs like don orange jumpsuits, the little guys get proper f***ed. AI corner: Perplexity's CEO says says recruiter jobs are soon to be a thing of the past, and Salesforce's Mark Benioff probably agrees, as his company is doing up to 50% or more with less. Moe's skeptical: "Hype to sell shares!" Chad sees task automation (bye, scheduling drudgery) but demands AI taxes and UBI pronto. Jobs evolve, but painful contractions ahead? We'll be watching. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome Back 02:21 - Maureen's Disney Cruise Experience 04:04 - Tribute to Matt Lavery 07:09 - Coldplay Gate: The Viral Incident 08:52 - Integrity Fees for Tourists 10:19 - Ashby: A Positive ATS Experience 12:41 - Bold's Acquisition and Job Seeker Concerns 15:59 - Ronstadt's Treatment of Employees 18:29 - The Impact on Vendors and Corporate Accountability 23:23 - Future of Recruitment and AI Integration 32:14 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes

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Live from UNLEASH America, it’s an unfiltered convo with Steve Bartel (CEO, Gem) and Alla Mezhvinsky (VP, Talent & Workplace, Glean)—and it’s not your average kumbaya on hiring trends. 🧠 From AI-fueled chaos to tech stack therapy sessions, we’re diving headfirst into: 🤖 Resume spam and deepfake candidates 💸 Scaling dreams on skeleton budgets 🧱 Platform vs. integration: who ya got? 📊 Real data, real decisions—no BS dashboards Steve even spills the story behind how he got the Gem.com domain (spoiler: startup fairy tales aren't real). We’re talking transparency that actually builds trust, AI that actually works, and tech stacks that actually don’t blow up your budget. If you're tired of hype and want honest recruiting talk from people who live it—this episode's your antidote. 🎧 Press play or keep clinging to that broken job description. 00:00 - In this Episode 0:49 - How Steve Got Gem.com 4:05 - Alla's & Steve's Elevator Pitch 5:24 - Steve's Sense on the Conference 8:51 - Balancing Limited Resources Amid Growing Demands 14:30 - Rethinking Job Descriptions 16:10 - Deepfakes, Resume Spam, and the Hiring Hype: What's Real? 19:29 - Bringing Transparency to the Hiring Timeline 24:04 - Tariff Talk and Client Reaction 28:39 - Platforms vs. Integrations in the AI Era 31:22 - Reassessing the Stack: When and Why? 35:07 - Leveraging Data for Change in Talent Acquisition 38:17 - What the Future Looks Like

In this episode, Chad and Cheese return from RecFest with sunburns, stories, and just enough energy to unpack a week full of WTFs. They kick things off with a heartfelt tribute to their late friend Matt Lavery, proof that even these two have a soft side under the sarcasm. But don’t get too comfortable, there’s plenty of industry drama to dig into. Job.com filed for bankruptcy (shocking no one), Indeed is back on its layoff tour, and Paradox is dealing with a data breach. Chris Foreman resurfaces at TotalJobs, and the big question looming over the industry: Will JobGet get the Monster (and the Builder too)? Stay tuned. Takeaways: Matt Lavery was a cherished friend and mentor. The podcast community has lost a valuable member. Job.com’s bankruptcy raises concerns for the industry. Indeed's layoffs reflect ongoing challenges in the job market. Data breaches are a serious issue for tech companies. Chris Foreman's move to TotalJobs is surprising given his previous plans. JobGet's acquisition of Monster signifies a drastic change in the job board landscape. The importance of valuing relationships and time with loved ones.

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In this episode, the boys roll out the red carpet for Ankit Kalda, a finance brainiac from Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business. They dive into the gig economy’s role as a financial lifeboat for laid-off workers, tossing around ideas like Uber drivers dodging debt faster than a bad Tinder date. The crew chews over how gig work reshapes the workforce, with HR folks scrambling to keep up like over-caffeinated squirrels. They also poke at the headaches gig platforms face—think regulatory red tape and automation like Tesla’s robotaxis stealing the wheel. Plus, they riff on Uncle Sam’s snooping into gig earnings, what Gen Z expects from this hustle-heavy world, and whether the gig economy’s future is a shiny utopia or a dystopian dumpster fire. It’s a wild ride through jobs, bots, and government plots! Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to the Gig Economy and Its Implications 02:22 - Understanding the Gig Economy as a Buffer 05:04 - The Impact of Gig Work on the Workforce 09:29 - Government Tracking of Gig Work 12:21 - Challenges Faced by Gig Platforms 14:40 - Temporary Solutions vs. Long-Term Viability 17:22 - Expectations of the Next Generation 20:44 - The Role of Regulation in Gig Work 25:11 - Healthcare and Long-Term Costs 28:49 - Future Outlook on the Gig Economy

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: 💀 Job.com hits Chapter 11 – because apparently lighting $50-100 million on fire isn't a sustainable business strategy. Who knew? 🔁 Who's buying Job.com? Apparently Job.com! 🧠 CTO is owed $300K 🧃 Business model of doom. Imagine Fyre Festival for jobs 🔮 PE firms, VC money, zero logic – If you ever wanted a masterclass in financial acrobatics and corporate vanishing acts, this episode is your front row seat. It’s The Chad & Cheese Podcast – where bankruptcies come with a twist and a smirk.

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash roll out the welcome mat for Marc Effron, the big cheese at Talent Strategy Group and coauthor of One Page Talent Management. The trio dives headfirst into the wild jungle of talent management, where CEOs and HR are apparently playing a bad game of telephone. Marc dishes on why HR processes need a simplicity makeover—like swapping War and Peace-length forms for a Post-it note. He spills the tea on why companies fumble employee development, the dire need to throw some cash at talent, and how generational quirks make managing folks feel like herding cats. Plus, they riff on HR’s quest to actually get what the business wants and adapt to the workplace’s new normal, all while dodging corporate chaos. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Talent Management and Complexity 01:17 - The Value of Talent and CEO Perspectives 04:18 - The Purpose Behind Writing the Book 04:36 - The Complexity of HR and Its Implications 05:13 - Understanding the Business and Customer Needs 06:37 - Investment in Employee Development 08:56 - Adapting to New Realities in the Workplace 09:24 - Generational Differences in Talent Management

In this episode, the gang kicks off with Canada Day banter, praising poutine and noting its July 1 celebration. The trio plans to rock RecFest UK in Knebworth, with J.T. plotting to heckle the boys. The core discussion dives into Indeed’s aggressive moves to dominate hiring, forcing agencies to adopt APIs and share disposition data, reminiscent of old newspaper models, per Jim Durbin’s insights. Chad critiques Recruit Holdings’ push for a unified “HR matching market,” warning it’s a dated cost-per-hire approach doomed to fail, like Monster’s struggles. The rise of AI agents, like Jobright’s ($3.2M funding) and Wisq’s ($15M), sparks debate—Joel sees them revolutionizing job searches, while Chad fears “AI catfishing” inflating candidate profiles. Tech layoffs hit hard, with 22,000 cuts in 2025 (e.g., Bumble, Intel), impacting HR’s talent strategies and exacerbating infinite workday risks. J.T. highlights job seekers’ demand for reverse recruiting. And Ford’s CEO raising wages to retain workers underscores HR’s need for competitive pay to curb gig work reliance. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 05:11 AI Innovations and App Development 08:02 Upcoming 09:02 Indeed's New Strategies and Market Positioning 15:53 The Future of Job Applications and AI Agents 24:35 Layoffs and Workforce Dynamics 30:29 Reflections on Pay and Employment Trends

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In this episode, your loyal hosts roll out the red carpet for Jim Durbin, the industry's "Indeed Whisperer," who’s here to spill the beans on Indeed’s latest shenanigans. The trio dives into Indeed’s shiny new job posting policies, the corporate game of telephone gone wrong inside the company, and how this hot mess is shaking up agencies and recruiters like a bad TikTok dance. Jim drops some truth bombs about why quality candidates trump a flood of resumes, the nerdy allure of disposition data, and what these changes mean for the wild world of recruitment. The episode wraps with some crystal ball gazing, predicting who’ll be popping champagne and who’ll be crying into their LinkedIn profiles as the industry scrambles to keep up. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Guests 00:43 - Jim Durbin's Background and Expertise 01:45 - Indeed News and Changes in Recruitment Advertising05:08Impact of Changes on Agencies and TA Departments 09:52 - Understanding Indeed's Motives and Market Position 13:58 - The Role of Disposition Data in Recruitment 18:56 - The Future of Job Posting and Programmatic Solutions 20:19 - The Future of ATS and Data Management 22:29 - Challenges in ATS Integration and Data Quality 25:10 - Indeed's Strategy and Agency Dynamics 28:25 - The Impact of Quality Candidates on Recruitment 31:20 - Budgeting and the Future of Recruitment Advertising

In another lively episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and J.T. O’Donnell blend humor with industry insights. The show tackles a grim industry shake-up: CareerBuilder and Monster’s job board business is being sold to JobGet amid Chapter 11 bankruptcy. JobGet’s gobbling distressed assets like Snagajob, but Chad questions the strategy, as these “misfit toys” boost revenue without growth. Unsecured creditors, like Jobverse ($2.7M) and TextKernel ($2.2M), are owed $25.5M and may see little, while Apollo’s insulated. J.T. urges job boards to innovate or perish. Dice’s layoffs (100+ in sales and engineering) reflect a revenue plunge (Q4 2024 down 14%, Q1 2025 down 18%). Chad blames Dice’s failure to evolve, stuck in an innovator’s dilemma like Monster. Automation shines (kinda): Tesla’s Austin robotaxi launch ($4.20/ride) had hiccups, while Walmart’s robots unload trucks at 580 boxes/hour, easing grueling jobs. Yet, displaced workers face risks, and new remote roles could fuel infinite workday burnout. A YouTuber’s In-N-Out lawsuit underscores brand risks, emphasizing HR’s need to adapt with quality-focused, streamlined talent management in a turbulent market.

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Buckle up for another wild ride on The Chad and Cheese Podcast, where our hosts sling hot takes faster than a fast food drive-thru! This episode’s a global smorgasbord, kicking off with a shout-out to Portugal’s national football team, who’re apparently scoring goals like they’re auditioning for a Hollywood blockbuster. Olé! Then, the lads pivot to Taco Bell’s grand invasion of Ireland—because nothing says “Irish culture” like a Crunchwrap Supreme at 2 a.m.Next, they dive into the recruitment jungle (see what I did there?) to dissect Welcome to the Jungle, France’s slick job platform trying to muscle into the U.S. market. Spoiler: it’s like a croissant trying to compete with a double cheeseburger. The hosts break down whether this Euro import can hack it in the land of LinkedIn and Monster, all while preaching the gospel of “know thy market” like it’s a recruitment sermon. The convo then zooms into the AI startup Thunderdome, pitting Sintra against Jet HR in a cage match of funding flexes and business models. Who’s got the bigger war chest? Who’s got the better buzzwords? It’s like watching two tech bros arm-wrestle over venture capital. Things get spicy when they tackle AI and automation, with Amazon playing the role of job-market Godzilla, stomping through Europe’s workforce like it’s a bad kaiju flick. And because no podcast is complete without a moral panic, the hosts cap it off by wagging their fingers at social media’s evil grip on today’s youth. They’re out here advocating for regulations to save kids from the horrors of endless TikTok scrolls—like digital knights in shining armor. Will Welcome to the Jungle conquer America? Will AI eat all our jobs? Will teens survive Instagram? Gotta watch to find out.

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys lasso CNET money maestro Katherine Watt to dissect the job market’s wild west. Watt spills the beans on why unemployment stats are about as reliable as a weather app in a hurricane, exposing the gritty reality job seekers face. They wrangle topics like the “Great Stay” snoozefest, where workers cling to jobs like life rafts, and the economic data that’s got everyone scratching their heads. Watt drops gold nuggets on crafting resumes that dodge AI gatekeepers, urging quality over spamming applications like a bot gone rogue. She also tackles AI’s takeover, ghosting recruiters who vanish faster than a magician’s rabbit, and the gig economy’s rise that’s got job seekers hustling like Uber drivers on a Friday night. With networking as the secret sauce and upskilling as the new black, Watt’s tips are your ticket to standing out in a job market more crowded than a Black Friday sale. Get ready for laughs and wisdom in this no-BS job hunt showdown. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Catherine Watt and Her Background 02:56 - Understanding the Job Market Disconnect06:14The Reality of Job Searching Today 08:51 - The Impact of Economic Data on Job Seekers11:46The Perfect Storm in the Labor Market15:05The Great Stay and Its Implications 18:06 - Optimizing Resumes for the Modern Job Market 18:54 - Navigating Job Applications in the AI Era 24:47 - Generational Perspectives on Job Seeking 30:11 - The Shift to Gig Economy and Side Hustles 36:32 - Upskilling and Employee Development 39:43 - Strategies for Job Seekers in a Competitive Market

This week, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and Emi Beredugo sling zingers at the tech and policy chaos of today's work of work. First up, they cackle over OpenAI’s Sam Altman throwing shade at Meta, claiming Zuck’s crew dangled $100 million bonuses to poach his AI wizards. Altman, smirking on his brother’s podcast, scoffed, “Meta’s not exactly an innovation powerhouse,” betting OpenAI’s culture will outshine cash as they chase superintelligence—AI that’ll make humans look like dial-up modems. Chad quips, “Zuck’s throwing cash like confetti, but Altman’s holding the AGI trump card.” Next, the hosts tackle Trump’s immigration whiplash. Last week, he hit pause on ICE raids targeting farms and hotels—where 42% of crop workers and 7.6% of hospitality staff are undocumented—after farmers cried foul. But days later, he flipped, doubling down on mass deportations, especially in blue states, risking $315 billion in economic fallout. Tech gets weirder with Amazon’s Andy Jassy predicting AI will shrink corporate jobs, leaning on generative AI and Zoox’s 10,000 robotaxis to replace drivers. Meanwhile, Zoom’s Eric Yuan shrugs off work-life balance, saying leaders live for work and family, but sees AI pushing Gen Z toward three-day workweeks. Klarna’s CEO, Sebastian Siemiatkowski, not to be outdone, launches an AI hotline starring a digital him. Surely, AI Sebastian will be running interviews at Klarna soon, right? Tune in for insight. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Summer Vibes 01:49 Current Events: Juneteenth and Global Chaos 03:21 TikTok’s Staying Power 05:10 Browser Dating: Privacy or Romance? 08:08 Indeed’s New Market Squeeze 08:25 Meta vs. OpenAI: The Poaching Wars 24:32 Trump’s Economic Tightrope 29:35 Immigration vs. Market Needs 35:26 AI’s Job Displacement Threat 45:33 Culture and Burnout 50:23 The Infinite Workday Free stuff at http://www.chadcheese.com/free

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In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman interview Patrick McGee, a former Financial Times reporter and author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World’s Greatest Company. The discussion delves into McGee’s book, which explores Apple’s transformative relationship with China, its massive investments, and the unintended consequences for global tech and geopolitics. The interview covers McGee’s research process, Apple’s control over its narrative, the scale of its investments in China, and the broader implications for manufacturing, workforce development and U.S.-China relations. Timeline Just give me the main bullet points, without the Key Points and Key Points McGee’s Background (00:29–02:08): McGee’s Financial Times reporting in Hong Kong, Germany, and on Apple shaped Apple in China, focusing on China’s authoritarianism, supply chains, and Apple’s operations. Research Process (02:08–05:00): Over 200 interviews and 1,000+ pages of unreported Apple documents reveal novel insights into manufacturing, bypassing Apple’s product-focused narrative. Apple’s Narrative Control (05:00–08:31): Apple steers media toward product features, obscuring key figures like Isabel Gamahi and critical China operations. Apple’s Investment (2013–2016) (08:31–15:16): Beijing’s 2013 media attacks led to a $55 billion annual investment by 2015, with Cook’s $275 billion pledge in 2016, likened to double the Marshall Plan. China’s Workforce (Pre-2016) (15:16–17:08): Apple trained 28 million workers, enabling competitors like Huawei, with China realizing this impact in 2016. Apple vs. Other Tech (Pre-2016) (17:08–20:11): As a hardware company, Apple followed other electronics firms to China, unlike content-focused Google, Amazon, and Facebook. U.S. Oversight (2016–Present) (20:11–24:32): U.S. was unaware of Apple’s investments; Apple’s training model could inspire U.S. vocational revival. Automation Challenges (Present) (24:32–30:06): China’s dominance in materials and robotics makes U.S. onshoring unlikely; tariffs disrupt without solutions. Vocational Training (Present) (30:06–33:58): Apple’s China training, akin to Germany’s system, empowered Chinese firms; U.S. could adopt similar models. Geopolitical Outlook (Present–2025) (33:58–39:02): India’s role is limited; China’s manufacturing dominance persists, with Apple’s AI lag adding risk. EVs and China’s Lead (2019–Present) (39:02–42:46): Tesla’s 2019 operations boosted China’s EV dominance; West struggles with battery supply chain control. Book Promotion (42:46–43:37): Apple in China available on Amazon, Bookshop.org, Apple Books; appleinchina.com offers more details.

In this lively Chad and Cheese podcast episode, our courageous hosts tackle the recruitment world with wit and sarcasm. They mourn the downfall of job board giants CareerBuilder and Monster, now on the clearance rack, as private equity bean counters strip them bare. Chad laments their lack of vision, while Joel predicts three fates: a ZipRecruiter roll-up, a Recruit Holdings acquisition, or an international player snagging a cheap U.S. foothold. J.T. scoffs, saying job seekers hate these brands and job boards are dinosaurs. The trio then roasts Indeed’s late-to-the-party conversational AI tools, with Chad calling them five years behind and Joel comparing Indeed’s struggles to Apple’s innovation slump. J.T. notes Indeed’s trust issues, with scam texts spiking 500%. Meanwhile, SmartRecruiters’ bold AI platform, Winston, earns praise for its forward-thinking pivot, unlike Workday’s Josh Bersin propaganda machine and iCIMS’ press-release snooze. They wrap with a dive into the creator economy, where user-generated content is outpacing traditional media. J.T. cheers the shift to monetizing knowledge, urging everyone to jump in, while Chad stresses the need for a business model to cash in. Oh, and Joel sneaks in a Beach Boys tribute, Father’s Day shout-outs, and a NSFW OnlyFans anecdote, because why not? Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Personal Updates 02:58 - Reflections on the Beach Boys and Father's Day 06:04 - AI's Impact on Human Interaction 08:55 - CareerBuilder and Monster's Decline 18:07 - The Future of Job Boards and Market Dynamics 25:23 - The Future of Job Boards 28:29 - Indeed's Challenges and Innovations 35:02 - Workday and SmartRecruiters "Innovate"? 39:27 - The Rise of User-Generated Content 48:20 - The Shift in Media Consumption

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Fasten your tech-hipster bum bags—Chad, Lieven, and Emi globe-trot through HR mayhem, startup soap operas, and political facepalms. 🦄 Parloa’s riding high while Builder.ai’s IPO dreams crash-land like dad jokes at a startup open mic. 🚁 Ukrainian drone startups schooling old-guard giants in DIY warfare. 🇪🇺 Tesla’s getting ghosted harder than your last online date. 🥂 Emi toasts bottomless brunches; Lieven mourns EV glory days. Harmony achieved. 🦘 RecruitRoo bounces across Europe like a kangaroo on espresso. 🥐 And yes—Americans swapping MAGA hats for croissants, universal healthcare, and slightly saner politics. Plus: Red wine splashes, tipping etiquette atrocities, and a Putin punchline that'll make you think (and chuckle). Chaos never sounded so charming—hit play. It’s The Chad & Cheese Podcast: Global Edition. Chapters 00:00 Ukrainian Innovation: A Game Changer 05:08 Elon Musk and the European EV Market Shift 09:28 Tipping Culture in Europe vs. the US 14:57 The Rise and Fall of Builder.ai 20:41 Accountability in the Startup World 23:32 Emergence of AI Unicorns in Europe 25:09 The Impact of Conversational AI on Jobs 27:57 AI in HR: Enhancing Candidate Engagement 32:15 Recruit Roo's Ambitious Expansion in Europe 40:12 The American Dream: Seeking Stability in Europe

Buckle up for a riotous romp through the HR jungle on The Chad and Cheese Podcast! Hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash, the dynamic duo of workplace wit, are joined by Jordan Birnbaum, the Glinda Group’s co-founder and resident HR wizard, who’s ready to zap some sense into the corporate chaos. Armed with his industrial-organizational psychology and behavioral science superpowers, Jordan dishes on why HR is stuck in a Dilbert cartoon, flailing under outdated structures. He’s calling for an HR glow-up, splitting it into specialized squads to actually support employees instead of drowning them in paperwork. The trio dives into AI’s takeover of HR—think less “Terminator,” more “clippy on steroids”—and how it’s shaking up everything from hiring to watercooler chats. They also tackle generational workplace vibes (Boomers, Millennials, and Gen Z, oh my!) and why agility is the secret sauce for HR that doesn’t suck. With Jordan’s vision, it’s all about crafting workplaces that don’t make you want to rage-quit on Monday. Expect sharp insights, belly laughs, and a few “HR-rible” puns as Joel and Chad grill Jordan on building a happier, less soul-crushing office life. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jordan Birnbaum 05:06 The Glinda Group and Its Mission 06:55 Exploring HR's Ineffectiveness 09:23 Reimagining HR's Structure 13:53 The Role of AI in HR Transformation 18:51 Generational Perspectives on HR 24:45 Future of Work and AI's Impact

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, it’s birthday hangovers, five liters of port, and one big "healthy budget" middle finger from Indeed. Maureen “Mo” Clough is back and just in time to witness Chris Hyams “decide” to leave his CEO chair... right before his old boss waltzes in and takes it. Coincidence? LOL. 👉 Indeed jacks up prices and slaps on a euphemism: Healthy Budget. Translation? Pay more, get less, and smile through it. 👉 Hyams gets the boot—my bad, gracefully exits stage left—after steering Indeed into a horse-and-buggy pricing model. 👉 Workday faces a class-action lawsuit over algorithmic discrimination. Cue the AI ethics panic. 👉 Rippling and Deel continue their Spy vs. Spy meltdown with more lawsuits than Bravo has Real Housewives. 👉 And yeah, AI might end your job, your industry, and your peace of mind. So Mo’s pricing bunkers and praying for universal basic income while Chad’s drinking port like it’s Y2K. From laugh-out-loud corporate chaos to serious HR wake-up calls, it’s a bender of an episode. BYOBunker

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On this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys lasso in Jeremy Mancheski, the big kahuna at OutSolve, for a wild ride through the HR compliance jungle. Jeremy drops truth bombs about why HR compliance is the unsung hero of keeping companies out of hot water, all while juggling the chaos of ever-shifting regulations like a circus clown. They dive into the thrilling world of data collection—because who doesn’t love a good spreadsheet? The trio also tackles the nail-biting drama of poster compliance (yes, those break room posters are a big deal), the affirmative action planning glow-up, and hot-button issues like immigration and I-9 forms that make HR folks sweat. Peering into their crystal ball, they riff on the future of DEI in hiring and how AI and hybrid workspaces are shaking up HR like a bad office karaoke night. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to OutSolve and HR Compliance 02:51 - Navigating the Changing Landscape of Compliance 07:32 - The Importance of Data Collection in HR 10:39 - Understanding Poster Compliance and Its Challenges 13:40 - The Shift in AAP Providers and Compliance Strategies 15:57 - Emerging Topics in HR: Immigration and I-9 Compliance 19:15 - The Future of DEI and Its Impact on Hiring 21:15 - Looking Ahead: AI and Hybrid Workspaces

Welcome to The Chad & Cheese birthday week! After 8+ years and damn near 1,500 episodes, we’ve earned some time poolside… or in my case, beer-in-hand, toes-in-sand. BUT—before we disappear into the SPF and piña coladas, we’ve got a little birthday gift for you. It’s a brand spankin’ new episode of Talent Chasing—the podcast where Moneyball meets Office Space... yeah, let that marinate. What does it mean? Hell if I know, but you’ll figure it out. This week, Brian, Jasper, and Chad dive into the NFL draft disaster that was Shedeur Sanders' slide to the fifth round. Was it race? Was it reputation? Was it just good ol’ football fear of a confident quarterback with a very famous dad? Yep. All that and a side of bullshit. So unwrap your present, hit play, and enjoy the chaos. Happy Birthday to us—Sowash out! More Talent Chasing at TalentChasing.com

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In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys interview Dr. Poornima Luthra, a TEDx speaker, associate professor at Copenhagen Business School, and author specializing in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Dr. Luthra discusses her upcoming book, Can I Say That?, which explores the backlash against DEI initiatives, rooted in her 18 years of academic research in talent management and HR. Key Points: Background and Motivation: Dr. Luthra’s interest in DEI stems from her PhD research and personal experiences with social inequities as a woman of color. Her work focuses on creating fairer organizational environments. DEI Backlash: She observes a global backlash against DEI, particularly amplified in the U.S., with ripple effects in Europe. Companies face pressure to remove DEI training and terminology, especially those with U.S. federal contracts. Fear as a Core Issue: Dr. Luthra identifies fear as the root of resistance to DEI, manifesting in five forms: fear of change, fear of getting it wrong, fear of personal consequences, discomfort with bias, and fear of ineffective actions. These fears affect all groups, not just dominant ones. Zero-Sum Misconception: The backlash is fueled by a zero-sum view where advancing marginalized groups is seen as diminishing others’ advantages. Dr. Luthra critiques the focus on quotas over systemic and cultural change, which perpetuates this mindset. Diversity Paradox: Diversity alone doesn’t guarantee positive outcomes like retention or morale without equity and inclusion. Resistance to DEI can increase job dissatisfaction and insecurity, particularly for marginalized groups. Meritocracy Myth: Dr. Luthra challenges the notion of meritocracy, noting that perceptions of merit are biased by social conditioning around gender, race, and other factors. True meritocratic systems require dismantling these biases. Corporate Responses: While some companies abandon DEI, others, like Costco, maintain commitments, aligning with customer and employee values. Share price drops for companies retracting DEI efforts suggest market consequences. Allyship: Dr. Luthra emphasizes allyship through introspection, curiosity, humble acknowledgment of privilege, empathetic engagement, vulnerable interactions, and courageous responsibility. Her book aims to guide everyone in overcoming fears to engage with DEI effectively. Book Promotion: Can I Say That? is a workplace-focused guide for bridging divides and addressing DEI fears, aimed at both supporters and skeptics. It releases in May 2025 (June/July in the U.S.) and will be available on Amazon and other platforms. The episode blends humor, critical analysis, and practical insights, urging listeners to rethink DEI approaches and commit to systemic change despite resistance. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Dr. Poornima Luthra 02:31 - The Personal Journey into DEI 04:01 - Global Perspectives on DEI Backlash 05:27 - Understanding Fear in DEI Resistance 11:21 - The Zero-Sum Game of DEI 17:49 - The Impact of Resistance on Workplace Dynamics 21:10 - Meritocracy vs. DEI: A Flawed Concept 24:56 - Corporate Responses to DEI Challenges 27:37 - The Role of Allyship in DEI 31:57 - Promoting the New Book: Can I Say That?

Get ready for a rollercoaster of HR drama and economic shade on this week's show as we unpack a can o' worms, starting with the wild corporate espionage feud between Rippling and Deel, with Rippling alleging Deel’s spying triggered a federal probe and Globalization Partners reporting similar shenanigans—Chad says Deel’s C-suite might need a total reboot. Klarna’s AI avatar-led earnings report screams IPO hype, but its predatory micro-loan model gets roasted, with J.T. warning job seekers to master video authentication as AI interviews become universal. Speaking of AI, job seekers are slamming glitchy, soulless AI interviews, with J.T. urging strategic job hunting in a market tougher than 2008, while Chad pitches quirky Max Headroom-style AI to ease the weirdness. Utah’s AwardCo snags $165M and a $1B valuation for its employee recognition platform, but the hosts call it a shiny fix for lousy leadership, doomed to breed dissatisfaction. Trump’s tariff tantrum at Walmart, demanding they “eat” costs, is labeled chaotic misdirection by Chad, with J.T. seeing it as Trump’s chaos-and-save tactic. The Senate’s No Tax on Tips Act, offering a $25,000 deduction, is slammed as a distraction from living wages—only 2.5% of workers rely on tips, and Joel mourns the sidestep of real wage reform. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Weather Banter 03:00 - The Decline of Skype and Video Calling Trends 05:57 - Shout Outs and Legal Drama 09:08 - Corporate Espionage in HR Tech 16:58 - AI in Business Presentations and Job Seeking 24:02 - The Future of AI and Authenticity in Video25:50The Impact of AI on Employment27:58Automation in Job Interviews 33:58 - The Future of Job Applications 38:02 - The Rise of Recognition Platforms 52:02 - The No Tax on Tips Act 56:05 - The Economics of Tipping and Wages