Religion on the Mind

Dr. Brad Strawn (Fuller) joins me today for essentially a two-parter. First, we talk about the integration of psychology and theology broadly, including Brad’s own story of coming to that work in particular. After the break, we talk about how a Christian might also be an existentialist in some ways, a field of thought commonly associated with atheism or agnosticism. Finally, Sarey Concepcion, Communications Director for Blueprint 1543, joins me for a brief interview about some very high-quality free courses around psychology and theology that their organization is offering.Blueprint 1543's free courses: theopsych.comBrad's Author Page: https://fullerstudio.fuller.edu/contributor/brad-d-strawn/Richard Beck episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000437315400Beck's "The Slavery of Death": https://www.amazon.com/Slavery-Death-Richard-Beck/dp/1620327775Pete Hill episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000448442686"The Worm at the Core": https://www.amazon.com/Worm-Core-Role-Death-Life/dp/1400067472Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8R…687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havana…b/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by absolute neuroscience all-star William Newsome (Stanford, NIH BRAIN Project) to discuss the ways in which our will is both free and constrained. What counts as free will? Are the Sam Harris types right that we have no free will? (Nope.) How do "top-down" and "bottom-up" forces affect our will? When is it the "most free"?Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, you're getting a sneak peek into the kind of exclusive episodes that patrons of this show received twice per month. Multiple-time guest Tony Jones joins me to break down and respond to the first 2 episodes of the incredible Christianity Today-produced podcast "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill." If possible, listen to those episodes before listening to us respond (but you don't have to). The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/id1569401963Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I spoke with the multi-talented Dr. Pamela King (Fuller Seminary, Thrive Center for Human Development). She is a researcher in developmental psychology whose passion is human thriving. We talk about thriving, as well as how virtue connects to thriving. Before that, she sets the stage with a discussion of religion and its role in both virtue development and thriving. For Pam, a virtue is a "psychological capacity that enables us to know, feel, and do what is right and good at different times and in different places." I love that definition. We also talk about the relationship between our own evolving narrative identity and the formation of virtues.Dr. King's Thrive Center profile: https://thethrivecenter.org/about/pam-ebstyne-king/Her Twitter: https://twitter.com/drpamkingHer Amazon author's page: https://smile.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3APamela+Ebstyne+King&s=relevancerank&text=Pamela+Ebstyne+King&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_2Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by one of my favorite Christian recording artists, Jon Guerra. His latest album "Keeper of Days" is phenomenal, and there is so much depth lurking just behind its carefully-constructed songs. Thankfully, a nice dose of that depth comes out in this fantastic conversation! We talk growing up the child of immigrants, Christian Nationalism, the Sermon on the Mount, the CCM machine, border politics, silence/prayer in the creative life, and more. Jon Guerra on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0T5EH22oyMja9UmN0Rz95o?si=04d5297a5dc14187Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Actor and filmmaker Luke Barnett joins me for another installment of "I Don't Believe in That God." These are conversations with people who do not identify as Christian, but they are not debates. Rather, they are attempts to understand my guest's story and perspective, with plenty of hopefully interesting rabbit trails along the way. https://twitter.com/LukeBarnettFaith Ba$ed on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Based-Luke-Barnett/dp/B08KGRJJMROur previous episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000494497232Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by Bridget Eileen Rivera, a sociologist completing her Ph.D. at the City University of New York Graduate Center. A homeschool graduate and alum of Patrick Henry College, Rivera has become a leading voice on gay celibacy in the the church. She has worked with a number of faith-based organizations, including Revoice, Christians for Social Action, and Preston Sprinkle’s Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Bridget and I differ ultimately on whether we think queer Christians are in general called by God to celibacy, but that didn't stop us from having a really great and interesting conversation about all things gender, sexuality, and faith. Her book (pre-order): https://smile.amazon.com/Heavy-Burdens-Christians-Experience-Church/dp/1587434830/ref=sr_1_1?crid=23XJOXDL8E7SJ&dchild=1&keywords=bridget+eileen+rivera&qid=1623344189&sprefix=bridget+eil%2Caps%2C205&sr=8-1https://twitter.com/travelingnunhttps://www.meditationsofatravelingnun.com/Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rev. Greg Farrand joins me to talk through his journey from high school burnout to PCA minister to Episcopal priest to his current gig as the executive director of Second Breath, an organization that promotes ancient Christian spiritual practice in a variety of contexts. Greg wanted an experiential faith, but found himself in a highly doctrine/reason-heavy tradition. His love for a wonderful lesbian couple and their intensely painful experience with him and his previous church also played a central role. We talk about the fruit of the spirit and how we discern truth using it as a guide.Second Breath Center: https://secondbreathcenter.com/Second Breath Open Zoom meeting Wednesdays at noon EST: https://zoom.us/j/2794690933?pwd=M3ZOUGFlb3dGbThSejhWcUlteHJMQT09SB Resources page: https://secondbreathcenter.com/resources/Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A frank discussion about two highly contentious issues in one episode -- what could possibly go wrong? I'm grateful to be joined by my dear friend, theologian Sarah Lane Ritchie, a person who shares my love of nuance to discuss these really tricky issues one after the other. You might as well save up all the hate mail for one episode, right? (This episode is two shorter conversations put together, not a conversation about the intersection of abortion and polyamory.)Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today I am joined by emerging scholar Heather Griffin to talk through some language of hers that I have found *so* helpful in understanding white Evangelical culture. Terms of hers like "Bible truths," "sanctified common sense," "magic knowledge receptor," "sincerity culture," and "Evangelical insta-trust" all come up in our conversation. Perhaps most impressive, however, is the way she links all of these terms and concepts into an understandable system. To say she is both a keen observer and an empathic pastor at heart is a massive understatement on both accounts. What an incredible conversation this was!https://twitter.com/hlgriffinDan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Sanders joins me to drop one of the single most helpful distinctions I have ever heard in discussions of religion and culture. His identification and explanation of Nurturant and Authoritative approaches to religion, politics, parenting, and more has been kicking around my head daily for 6 weeks now. You should not skip this episode. And you should probably support indie publishers and buy his book Embracing Prodigals: https://wipfandstock.com/9781725264069/embracing-prodigals/Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by PEW Research's Besheer Mohamed to discuss their recent fabulous deep-dive into the religious lives of Black Americans. We discuss why they decided on the topic, what was known previously, what they've been able to add, the role of religion in the lives of Black Americans, differences between Islam and Christianity in the Black community, the deep relationship to justice movements, and more. There is a lot of excellent info packed into this relatively tight conversation (by YHP standards anyway!), so enjoy!PEW study on faith of Black Americans: https://www.pewforum.org/2021/02/16/faith-among-black-americans/Besheer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/bmohamDan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, I spoke with Joanna Daigle Sawatsky and Rebecca Lindenbach about their incredible research work for the new book by Sheila Wray Gregoire (their boss) "The Great Sex Rescue." This research involved surveying over 22,000 (!!!) Evangelical women about sex, reproductive issues, gender roles, and more. We break down what they found in their survey, as well as in popular Evangelical marriage/sex resources and the wider academic research around Evangelicalism and sexuality. Purity Culture episodes are always popular on this show, and if you find that topic interesting or relevant, you should definitely listen to this conversation.The Great Sex Rescue: https://smile.amazon.com/Great-Sex-Rescue-Recover-Intended/dp/1540900827/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=great+sex+rescue&qid=1622141434&sr=8-1To Love Honor and Vacuum: https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjAAlbum Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/havana-swim-clubFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am re-joined by YHP all star guest Greg Cootsona (California State University, Chico) to talk through what we know from all the social science research on whether and how religiosity and church involvement are good or bad for people. We touch on physical and mental health, resilience and happiness, meaning-making, trauma healing, prosocial behavior, and more. We also talk through the ways that it is commonly understood to do harm.Greg's excellent notes for the episode: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptfrebzxow04p8f/Cootsona%20Scientific%20Studies%20on%20Going%20to%20Church%202021.docx?dl=0Greg's "Science for the Church" post with lots of this data: https://scienceforthechurch.org/2021/03/09/when-the-body-can-gather-again/Dan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjA"For Blake" Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/for-blakeFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another installment of one of my favorite types of episodes, where I chat with people who don't identify as Christian. Often times, I also don't believe in the God that they don't believe in. Joey Holman (ex-Cool Hand Luke) is one half of the Polyvinyl Records duo Man on Man, alongside his boyfriend Roddy Bottum (Faith No More). He grew up in a broken home outside Atlanta, found Evangelical Christianity in his teens, experienced dissonance around his gay sexuality, and eventually did some therapy and gained a lot of insight about his journey. I truly enjoyed our wide-ranging conversation.Man on Man (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/album/6AnxYVoP4KPB14VjBnwYbd?si=53a17ebde4b34ac0Joey IG: https://www.instagram.com/holmanholmanholmanMan on Man IG: https://www.instagram.com/manonmanmusicDan's new music project Havana Swim Club on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6CzaYsf8RIrCHNDhFGSfgm?si=InuVGF2ESse9unLRXM3QJQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466eHavana Swim Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkhsQydzvcAHT2d70dWZvjA"For Blake" Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/for-blakeFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by Lillian Daniel and Tony Jones to play a kind of a podcast game with simple rules: we take turns going through some of the MOST and LEAST PLAUSIBLE Christian claims we were told growing up in the church. Sometimes funny, but more often insightful (especially coming from Tony and Lillian), this was a pleasure to record.Tony's site: https://reverendhunter.com/Lillian's site: https://www.lilliandaniel.com/Havana Swim Club "Lagoon" on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/6FNXLPqbXvIC9OZmHqy6cK?si=687fd1c987ee466e"Lagoon" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q59b1tH-SWo&ab_channel=HavanaSwimClub"Yeah" Spotify pre-save: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/havanaswimclub/yeahFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest is Robert Kunzman, managing Director of the International Center for Home Education Research. He is a professor at Indiana University, where he teaches courses in curriculum, pedagogy, and philosophy of education. His research explores the intersection of citizenship, religion, and education, with a particular focus on homeschooling. Listeners of YHP asked almost every question in this episode, and Robert is so concise that we are able to get through pretty much all of them! As a researcher, his angle and answers are largely empirical, so keep that in mind -- we aren't getting, for instance, an emotional memoir of one person's insane experience in a home schooling cult. For that, I recommend the book "Educated" by Tara Westover. But this is a great and detailed conversation about a topic that many listeners have intense feelings about and/or history with.Thanks to everyone who submitted questions!International Center for Home Education Research: https://www.icher.org/Dan's episode of Boys Bible Study: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crime-of-the-age-1988-feat-dan-koch/id1492037987?i=1000519700616Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I had the immense privilege of speaking with Dr. Lisa Oakley, one of the leading researchers in the field of spiritual abuse. We talk about many aspects of SA, and then we move on to some of her newer research, focused on healthy communities in which such abuse does not thrive.World Relief Refugee petition: https://worldrelief.org/petition/Lisa’s 3 Questions:1. Would I want to be led by me?2. After people have had a conversation with me, do they leave feeling valued and respected?3. What is one thing I can do to start to develop a healthy culture in the place I'm in?Escape the Maze of Spiritual Abuse (Lisa's book): https://smile.amazon.com/Escaping-Maze-Spiritual-Abuse-Christian/dp/028108131X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=lisa+oakley&qid=1619393083&sr=8-1London Institute of Contemporary Christianity: https://licc.org.uk/Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the first of what I hope are many conversations with those more conservative than myself about progressive Christianity, Brad Jones shares his worries and concerns, both personal and theological. This is a very open, frank, kind, and curious conversation between two people who agree on a good chunk of things but also disagree on a lot. I really enjoyed it and found it very helpful in understanding the experience of a more conservative person dealing with the uncertainty of a growing somewhat-alien movement.Brad: instagram.com/mrbradjonesFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a delightful conversation with the anonymous Twitter personality and podcaster known as Trans Regret Snoopy whose podcast Trans Regret Snoopy Presents the Bible is one of the best-named religious podcasts ever to exist, in my opinion. We talk about her (re)conversion, theology from the margins, why she is anonymous, trans activism, and more.My episode of TRS Presents the Bible: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trans-regret-snoopy-presents-the-bible/id1535749968Follow TRS on Twitter: https://twitter.com/myinvertedpenisFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listener, patron, and Roman Catholic convert Jack Huber interviews me about my history with Catholicism in all its forms and the time that I got very close to becoming a Catholic.Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A difficult (but not as difficult to listen to as you might think!) conversation with philosopher, sociologist, and theologian Elaine Storkey about the state of woman-directed violence worldwide in all its forms, including:- selective abortion and infanticide- genital mutilation- early and enforced marriage- honor killings- domestic violence- trafficking and prostitution - rape- war and sexual violence But stick with us! There is some hope mixed in with the horror. And although this conversation was recorded in 2020, there is an obvious resonance with the recent murders in Atlanta.Scars Across Humanity: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CP5M1T4/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i1Women in a Patriarchal World: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08669BPZD/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0International Justice Mission: ijm.orgFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Continuing the series with those who have had experience in "Christian music," I speak with Joy Williams, known for both her solo career and her work with The Civil Wars. We talk about her upbringing and how it shaped her, the seedy underbelly of the Christian circuit, working in both Christian and general market scenes, her recent divorce, how she is raising her kids, how she sees God today, and more.Front Porch: https://open.spotify.com/album/0vK1POb7cjZdlZkShnqEDu?si=4lCJNjPfS9WKwqWNPX3J8wFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Politics. Identity. Tribalism. Woke culture. Partisanship perceptions. Racial resentment. "Holding their nose" for Trump. Immigration Rural/urban divide. All of these are more are touched upon in this wide-ranging data-fueled conversation between myself and Ryan Burge: professor, author, data analyst and ordained American Baptist pastor. We are both center-left sociopolitically, and we have a lot of fun looking at ways in which survey data and similar empirical evidence support this more moderate appraoch.David French, The Cultural Consequences of Very, Very Republican Christianity: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-cultural-consequences-of-veryHow Liberal are Republicans…?: https://religionunplugged.com/news/2020/11/10/how-liberal-are-republicans-how-conservative-are-democrats-heres-what-americans-thinkIs ‘White Born-Again Christian’ Just a Synonym for ‘Republican’?: https://religioninpublic.blog/2019/02/05/is-white-born-again-christian-just-a-synonym-for-republican/For White Evangelicals, Approval of Trump is About Immigration more than Abortion: https://religioninpublic.blog/2020/08/27/for-white-evangelical-republicans-approval-of-trump-is-about-immigration-more-than-abortion/Ryan’s upcoming book The Nones: https://www.amazon.com/Nones-Where-They-Came-Going/dp/1506465854/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+nones+ryan+burge&qid=1606514488&sr=8-2ryanburge.nethttps://twitter.com/ryanburgeReligion in Public: http://religioninpublic.blogFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by author and Old Testament scholar Pete Enns to talk about certainty: why we want it, what it does for us psychologically, how he got interested in writing about it, what it has to do with "biblical" faith, and more. Peteenns.com -- his books, his podcast, and moreFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm re-joined by Dr. Paula Swindle to go through the details of Ravi Zacharias's various abuses of power throughout his career as a Christian apologist. Specifically, Paula and I focus on these findings through the lens of religious or spiritual abuse, searching through the wreckage with an eye toward what each of us has found in our own research (hers much more extensive than my own!), as well as what we've picked up from other research and what Paula has seen directly through the religious abuse her own clients have survived over the years.Paula's episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000498837671Dispatch article: https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/you-are-one-step-away-from-complete-c25?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0Mjk3ODk0LCJwb3N0X2lkIjozMjUzNjkwMywiXyI6InIrYTlRIiwiaWF0IjoxNjEzNDA5ODIzLCJleHAiOjE2MTM0MTM0MjMsImlzcyI6InB1Yi0yMTc2NSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.URwkcpHS-x7vwAMvjDt4SwP1VbRDbf7WUqeDf2U0wWk&fbclid=IwAR14rYfuGilG78CLennbL1dOBavwARv4A0NORdfNhr6_ehNQ3y8sFNtVNAIReport itself: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/Report-of-Investigation.pdfPaula's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sacred-intersections/id1540524515Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My first act of peaceful engagement and deescalation in the budding culture war between conservative/traditional and progressive/deconstructing Christians. May we be humble and kind peacemakers even as we disagree on important issues. May we reject tribalism in all its forms, embracing God in every one of God's creatures.The interview from which I pulled the clips:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ6doQsSQLU&t=44s&ab_channel=CapturingChristianityFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sarah Lane Ritchie joins me for our regular chat to talk through two related topics: (1) a longing for the "deep magic" that used to move our Evangelical souls in tales like the Chronicles of Narnia, and (2) our own anxiety about death and the possibility that we will simply cease to exist (even though as Christians we hope that isn't the case). This episode is dedicated to Blake Beaver, beloved member of the YHP community, who passed away on Feb 14th, 2021. Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

** Please take my Varieties of Church Experience Survey, and share with friends and family (especially more conservative ones!): https://northwestupsych.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3r3jgp1f2oqDJNc **As someone paying some attention to the news, I was not surprised that Trump was acquitted a second time in the Senate. But back on January 6th, I was somewhat surprised to see so much Christian imagery and signage at the Capitol Hill siege. David Cassidy, a PCA pastor in Franklin, TN, wrote an incredible tweet thread recently on Evangelicals, conspiracy theories, and Christian nationalism. We disagree theologically about plenty, but I respect the hell out of what he's doing, and this was a fantastic conversation. We need more leaders like David if this largely-lost generation of Baby Boomer Evangelicals is to be saved from themselves and brought back to God. David's original Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/dpcassidyc3/status/1350455524261814272?s=11Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

** Please take my Varieties of Church Experience Survey, and share with friends and family (especially more conservative ones!): https://northwestupsych.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3r3jgp1f2oqDJNc **One of my most popular guests, Mark Karris (episode 45: "Toxic Christianity" & Its Damaging Claims), returns to talk about his book Religious Refugees. Specifically, we talk through the five symptoms of what he calls Religious Disorientation Growth Syndrome, as well as 5 possible ways forward toward re-orientation. Mark's book: https://www.amazon.com/Religious-Refugees-Constructing-Spiritual-Emotional/dp/1938480554/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612811313&sr=1-15 Symptoms of Religious Disorientation Growth Syndrome: 1. Doubting or denying one’s religious beliefs that were once held as true.2. Subtle or intense anxiety about a person’s relationship with God. 3. Increase of painful emotions, such as anger, loneliness, shame, guilt, sadness, and despair. 4. Isolation (community is massive for healing, meaning-making, and growth after trauma) and criticism (feared or realized) from members within their own family and/or religious community. 5. Existential angst concerning a person’s identity and future selfThe 5 Stations of Healing we spoke about:1. Becoming aware of and using one’s emotions2. An “unholy huddle” — the importance of a community3. Listen and be mindful of our emotions and therefore our selves4. Values5. Open and Relational theologyMark's YouTube video about why people are leaving the church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIrnQMXkkM&t=1sMarkGregoryKarris.comMark’s previous YHP episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000457113992Join the Patreon for those resources Mark promised! patreon.com/dankochFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Please take my Varieties of Church Experience survey, and share with friends and family: https://northwestupsych.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cXX09dWdzBtxtOeI'm joined by Luci and Jordan, the hosts of the Two Feminists Annotate the Bible/Beatified Podcast. We talk through the feminist hermeneutic, the Anglican and Episcopal traditions, liturgy and "canon within a canon", the documentary hypothesis of Torah compilation, and more. Luci and Jordan's Bible podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-feminists-annotate-the-bible/id1139914425Their Beatified podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-feminists-annotate-the-beatified/id1476904755Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochFaith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.comEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To celebrate 100 episodes -- that is, 101 episodes -- my friends join me to talk about a subject that everyone else seems to love a lot more than I do: the Enneagram! The 5 of us, 4 short of the holy number of 9 (myself, Sarey Martin Concepcion, Myron Penner, Sarah Lane Ritchie, and Tripp Fuller), take various positions on the Enneagram and have a lively debate/discussion about its usefulness (or not) and the extent to which is accurately maps onto reality. This is more of a fun, alcohol-soaked, lighthearted episode than we’re used to with YHP, and I think it is all the more special on that account.Can We Do Better Than the Enneagram?: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/january-february/enneagram-personality-psychology-research-based.htmlFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I’m joined by Dr. Sam Perry to discuss the tangled historical web of White Evangelicals in the US and their use of and affiliation for various conspiracy theories, starting in the 1950 around “outside agitators” in the Civil Rights movement. Sam traces through lines all the way up to Donald Trump, hitting the Moral Majority, Pat Robertson, Tim LaHaye/Left Behind, Obama, and birtherism along the way. We also get some historical context for many conspiracy theories that we were taught in Evangelical households growing up: the Satanic panic, New Age denunciations, the “gay agenda,” anti-Catholic sentiment, and more. We talk about parallel institutions within Evangelicalism and their distribution role in disseminating certain conspiracy theories. It was a lot to cover, and more could be said about almost every issue that came up, but I think listeners will find it helpful (and even entertaining) nonetheless.Sam’s article on The Conversation: https://theconversation.com/amp/evangelical-leaders-like-billy-graham-and-jerry-falwell-sr-have-long-talked-of-conspiracies-against-gods-chosen-those-ideas-are-finding-resonance-today-132241Why Are Christians Succeptible to Conspiracy Theories?:https://www.abc.net.au/religion/why-are-christians-susceptible-to-conspiracy-theories/13003550The American Life "The Problem We All Live With": https://www.thisamericanlife.org/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with-part-oneRhetorics of Race and Religion on the Christian Right: https://www.amazon.com/Rhetorics-Race-Religion-Christian-Right-ebook/dp/B081LMTKFZEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Natalie Schepman of the band Joseph joins Dan for the latest in the “I Don’t Believe In That God” series, where Dan talks with folks do not consider themselves to be theists/Christians with the aim of getting to the bottom of what precisely they do not believe (in a non-evangelistic way). At the end of the conversation, the two compare their views and explore various areas where they agree/disagree. This conversation was delightful, full of laughs, and incisive.After the episode, a 10-minute clip from the most recent patron-exclusive episode is also included (1:59:00).Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John and I were scheduled to record a patron-exclusive episode today, a follow-up to our previous episode. We didn’t feel that that conversation was possible to have, given our strong feelings and need to process what we witnessed yesterday on the news as thousands of Trump-led supporters rioted and broke into the Capitol building. We hope our processing is helpful for your own processing! We discuss our reactions and emotions around Trumpist Christians, Christian nationalism, repentance, grief, conversion and testimonies, prayer, deep narratives given to me during my Evangelical upbringing, and more.Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochJoin the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Budding autistic theologian Erin Burnett joins Dan to talk about her undergraduate thesis (Europe is slightly different, and Dan misspoke in the episode calling it a master’s thesis), which looked at the unique ways that autistic Christians understand and experience God. Erin finds that progressive Christianity tends to sit better with many autistic Christians, including herself, and — get this — she thinks there is ample evidence that St. Paul himself was autistic.https://autismfaithnetwork.com/Erin's blog post, "The Ramblings of an Autistic Christian": http://erinburnettauthor.co.uk/ramblings-autistic-christian/Erin's dissertation: https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/TJGEAKSI6NKPCGDHINTR/full?target=10.1080%2F1756073X.2020.1850402&fbclid=IwAR3oYRKjPO8cepnr-eoE5HJ-jJZjePASVpYt9tK025BAI6dIFBJ1yyYz8f0Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed Payne, host of the Church & Other Drugs Podcast, shares his story of serious lifelong drug addiction, how he ended up an addictions counselor, as well as some of the psychological tactics those counselors use to help addicts toward recovery. Specifically, “motivational interviewing” is a common approach Jed uses in his work, and Dan has recently been learning and practicing MI as part of his own psych education. This fairly practical conversation takes place in front of a theological backdrop which considers the utilization of social science and social services to be spiritually significant, taking advantages of the gifts and resources of people, institutions, and governments to make our world look more like the Kingdom of God on earth.Church & Other Drugs podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/church-other-drugs/id1191035186Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKochEdited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ashley Davis Gavila does "trauma-informed life coaching & spiritual care” with clients who have often suffered religious or spiritual abuse. She is not a therapist, and her work is therefore distinct from therapy, but both her dissertation research and client work give her an interesting perspective on this issue that I am, as you now all know, so interested in. So how about some trauma-informed podcast content, just in time for awkward holiday family conversations?Ashley’s site: https://desertbloomhealing.com/Dissertation: https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1293&context=dminStreams of Living Water Podcast Series: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-94-streams-living-water-richard-foster-james/id917771018?i=1000391523930About the “Streams”: https://renovare.org/about/ideas/the-six-streamsFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I know, I know, I know. Megachurches are so often panned and criticized that it is hard to consider whether or not or in what ways they might actually be good for people. But here is some serious peer-reviewed research to help burst us our of our bubbles from veteran religion researcher James K. Wellman, Jr. (University of Washington). You might be surprised what you hear, so give it a chance!- Jim & Dan on Depolarize!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-a-crazy-moment-for-evangelicalism/id1163609659?i=1000421333623High on God: https://www.amazon.com/High-God-Megachurches-Heart-America/dp/0199827710/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=james+k+wellman&qid=1608081127&sr=8-6Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first in a series of conversations with musicians who have had some experiences with “Christian Music,” whatever that ultimately means. John Van Deusen is one of my absolute favorite recording artists, period. Formerly leading the band The Lonely Forest, his solo work of the last few years is both phenomenal and prolific. And he has some TAKES about the Christian music industry!“Mind Reader” played from album 1: https://open.spotify.com/album/4V3EmTpSjw69h307nW9zPK?si=aGOWTrTnRyaXNX4-taOWoA“None Other” played from album 2: https://open.spotify.com/album/6UlGiLqUWdqlozYuiOihI1?si=i7MesHC-TV-6VIeu8Zq4vA“Whatever Makes You Mine” played from Album 3: https://open.spotify.com/album/601b2dRqWuGBNLQUxWkhDI?si=goqndRx3RrOWOPJ5MVHNHwLive on KEXP session: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NJAYG0Npb4Buffet: https://open.spotify.com/album/1G1ApeHhdPFlwESStrWhBa?si=_vnD3OUaQraFpUHtO3dDygFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are celebrating the launch of Sarey Martin Concepcion and I’s web resource soyouredeconstructing.com! To do so, our entire little friend group has gathered around some microphones to tell stories from our own faith journeys, touching on various topics that tend to come up for people whose faith is changing and re-forming. I’m joined by Sarey, Sarah Lane Ritchie, Myron Penner and Tripp Fuller. Make sure to check out the sillier companion episode to this that is also airing today as on the Homebrewed Christianity Podcast feed, where Tripp, Sarey, Mason Mennenga and I compete in an Evangelical Fantasy Draft while consuming multiple beverages (and you can even vote on who has the best team!).Homebrewed SYD Launch episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040#episodeGuid=https%3A%2F%2Ftrippfuller.com%2F%3Fp%3D32131soyouredeconstructing.comFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan talks with Tony Jones about the failures of the Emerging Church movement, of which he was a central part, and what’s going on today with churches in America. How might they thrive in the future? Are there any signs that they will make necessary changes? What happens to churches after Covid? Why do gay-affirming people stay in non-affirming churches? What role does church actually play in people’s lives? Why didn’t the Emerging Church leaders pass the baton to the next generation? What is going on today with the “Nones” and “Spiritual but not Religious”? These and many other interesting questions are batted around, and Tony is a very fun interview.The Reverend Hunter: https://reverendhunter.com/Dan’s B4NP Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bible-for-normal-people/id1215420422#episodeGuid=f6f74bbc-d7b0-41f1-8a63-45a1946c18e3Resources for faith de/reconstruction: soyouredeconstructing.comFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the first in a series of episodes where I interview hosts of podcasts that focus primarily on the Bible itself, since it is now clear to me that You Have Permission will never quite be one of those shows. And yet, there are many great shows that do focus on the Bible! So listen to these interviews, and see which Bible-focused podcasts resonate with you.SoYoureDeconstructing.comThe Bible for Normal People — https://peteenns.com/podcast/Genesis for Normal People: https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Normal-People-Controversial-Misunderstood/dp/193922103XThe Bible Tells Me So: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Tells-Me-Defending-Scripture/dp/0062272039Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest is Dr. Paula Swindle, one of the only people in the world currently doing peer-reviewed research on the topic of spiritual and religious abuse. She is also on my dissertation committee (stoked!). We break down the varieties/types/settings of this kind of abuse in detail, and it’s a fantastic conversation.Dr. Swindle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drpaulaswindle/Sacred Intersections Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sacred-intersections/id1540524515S.I. on IG: https://www.instagram.com/sacredintersectionspodcast/Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I chat with Karna Lozoya, host of the Crisis Podcast, chronicling the largely sexual clergy abuse scandal in the Catholic church, with a special focus on the last couple years.Crisis Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crisis-clergy-abuse-in-the-catholic-church/id1526136389Pope Francis daily homilies: http://www.popefrancishomilies.com/Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...in which in lieu of a new YHP episode, we feature friend of the podcast Jon Ward and his *fantastic* conversation with WORLD Magazine contributors Mindy & Emily Belz. Jon's show notes are below.****Mindy Belz has been with World Magazine since its founding in 1986. It’s a publication aimed at evangelical Christians, started by her brother in law, Joel Belz. Emily Belz, Mindy’s daughter, is also at World now, and has worked at the New York Daily News and The Indianapolis Star.Mindy has spent 20 years covering the plight of Christians in Iraq and Syria. This is a story that truly did get overlooked: before the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, there were about 1 million Christians in Iraq, living out a version of the faith with incredibly ancient roots. Many Christians in that region still speak Aramaic, the tongue that Christ himself spoke. But 17 years later, the Christian community in Iraq has been decimated by violence and intimidation. Only about 100,000 Christians remain there. The faith there has almost become extinct in terms of sheer population size. Mindy and I discuss a little bit how much decisions made, or not made, by the Bush administration, are responsible for that. Mindy’s book on this topic, “They Say We are Infidels: On the Run from from ISIS With Persecuted Christians in the Middle East,” came out in 2015. I recommend it. The suffering of this community there, and in Syria, is tough to comprehend. I first thought of interviewing Mindy when I saw her tweet something last May. It was in response to protests against COVID restrictions. "For 6 yrs I've reported on Christians chased from their homes & churches by ISIS, seen their testimony, steadiness, care for one another. How utterly disheartening to watch the American church come apart in a 10-wk shutdown. They shall be known by their demand for their rights,” she wrote. Mindy’s bigger critique of American Christians is two fold: they have no idea what real religious persecution looks like is one part of it. But she also notes the narrowness of demanding rights to do whatever one wants while disregarding the impact of not wearing masks and distancing on those who are most vulnerable — which is not just the older but also people who are poor and on the margins, those without health insurance who are going to avoid going to the doctor or ER if they get sick until it’s too late. And she contrasts this with a vision of the common good that characterizes Middle East Christians...****Jon also brings this into conversation with the recent spate of mask-free and non-distanced worship gatherings led most prominently by Sean Feucht.The Long Game Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-long-game/id1248994688Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest is Dr. Kirk Honda, psychologist, professor, and co-host of the fantastic Psychology in Seattle Podcast. We talk about what the psychological research says about the role of faith in people’s lives, about how that is often a blindspot for non-religious therapists despite very strong evidence, and a little about his own faith story as well.Psychology in Seattle: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/psychology-in-seattle-podcast/id767626637Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’ve caused a turning point in the Earth’s natural history. Everybody Now is a podcast about what it means to be human on the threshold of a global climate emergency, in a time of systemic injustice and runaway pandemics. Scientists, activists, farmers, poets, and theologians talk bravely and frankly about how our biosphere is changing, about grief and hope in an age of social collapse and mass extinction, and about taking action against all the odds.On 19th October 2020, Everybody Now is being released by podcasters all over the world as a collective call for awareness, grief and loving action. With contributions from:Dr. Gail Bradbrook - scientist and co-founder of Extinction RebellionProf. Kevin Anderson - Professor of Energy and Climate Change at the University of ManchesterDámaris Albuquerque - works with agricultural communities in NicaraguaDr. Rowan Williams - theologian and poet, and a former Archbishop of CanterburyPádraig Ó Tuama - poet, theologian and conflict mediatorRachel Mander - environmental activist with Hope for the FutureJohn Swales - priest and activist, and part of a community for marginalised peopleZena Kazeme - Persian-Iraqi poet who draws on her experiences as a former refugee to create poetry that explores themes of exile, home, war and heritageFlo Brady - singer and theatre makerHannah Malcolm - Anglican ordinand, climate writer and organiserAlastair McIntosh - writer, academic and land rights activistDavid Benjamin Blower - musician, poet and podcasterFunding and Production: This podcast was crowdfunded by a handful of good souls, and produced by Tim Nash and David Benjamin BlowerPermissions:The song Happily by Flo Brady is used with permission.The song The Soil, from We Really Existed and We Really Did This by David Benjamin Blower, used with permission.The Poem The Tree of Knowledge by Pádraig Ó Tuama used with permission.The Poem Atlas by Zena Kazeme used with permission.The Poem What is Man? by Rowan Williams from the book The Other Mountain, used with permission from Carcanet Press.Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I spoke with Luke Barnett and Vince Masciale, the guys behind the new indy comedy Faith Based, about a pair of misfit buddies who try and make a quick buck by directing a Christian movie and selling it to the fictitious “Christflix” streaming channel. To make their own film, they did quite a bit of market research around the Christian movie industry, so naturally I was interested to talk about that. We also get into other forms of independent faith-based art like the Christian ska and punk scene of the 90’s and 2000’s. This is a breezy, fun conversation by YHP standards, and I really enjoyed it.Faith Based Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn6Lfa-EkNALuke on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LukeBarnettFollow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie joins for her inaugural regular guest spot on YHP to discuss her and Dan’s shared recent experience of having their first children. They each tell their respective stories of infertility and IVF, and various theological and psychological implications of these are discussed, including: the role of neurotransmitter’s in God’s communication to humans, CS Lewis’s idea of Joy as a “foretaste” of the Kingdom of God, Hell, wonder/awe, the multiverse, and more.Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!)Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankochEmail about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.comJoin Dan's email list: dankochwords.comArtwork by http://sprungle.co/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices