Religion on the Mind

Good times were had by all at this live-at-Theology-Beer-Camp special edition of the Generation Gap Culture Hour, the recurring Patreon-feed show where Dan is joined by Tony Jones and Josh Gilbert. Organized on the fly after Jars of Clay’s Dan Haseltine failed to arrive at camp, Dan put the question to Josh and Tony: Is there a “masculinity crisis” as has been reported in some corners of the media? If so, what constitutes this crisis? The best part of the episode, all three agree, was when the audience started getting involved (much of which is only available to Patreon subscribers, sorry!). Articles Mentioned: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/podcasts/ezra-klein-podcast-transcript-richard-reeves.html https://www.deseret.com/magazine/2022/11/9/23404485/boys-men-mental-health-masculinity-richard-reeves _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jed Payne (Church and Other Drugs Podcast) is back to continue the series of “Worries About…” episodes, this time on Jed’s concern that progressive Christianity might be too “humanistic” and not serious enough about human depravity. As always with Jed, it’s a great and incredibly candid conversation with a lot of much-appreciated vulnerability, especially on Jed’s end. They discuss OCD/religious scrupulosity, original sin/depravity, Jed’s felt need for God, and more. Church and Other Drugs Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/church-other-drugs/id1191035186 Jed’s YHP Episode “From Addict to Addictions Counselor (#98)”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000503809998 The EXAMEN Prayer: https://www.ignatianspirituality.com/examen-prayer-card/ _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After Dan’s solo mini episode on Israel-Hamas and the “End Times” (as conceived of by Left Behind-style premillennial dispensationalist Protestants), he wanted to go further in-depth on the background of that particular theology and reading of apocalyptic texts within the Bible. Dan Hummel (University of Wisconsin Madison) was gracious enough to join on short notice, and the two cover the history of dispensationalism, alternate readings of key texts in Revelation and Daniel, how dispensationalism became so popular, and the prediction track record of the carious popularizers of this view (spoiler alert: it’s BAD). For more geopolitical context, please listen to Dan’s interview with Tim Whitaker over at The New Evangelicals: Dan’s Website: https://www.danielghummel.com/ The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism Book: https://www.danielghummel.com/rise-and-fall-of-dispensationalism Dan Hummel’s Episode on The New Evangelicals Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aaron Simmons is back! This time, we are not talking so much about Danish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard, but rather in more general terms about the philosophical movement he began: existentialism. Or anyway, he kicked off modern European Existentialism. Since Tripp Fuller and I are gearing up for our “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Psychology and Theology” online class, I wanted to talk with a philosopher about the original existentialist movement(s) to give all of us some context. I love this stuff, and Aaron is always a fantastic guest. Camping with Kierkegaard Book: https://www.amazon.com/Camping-Kierkegaard-Faithfulness-Way-Life/dp/B0CGWYN1F1 [email protected] Previous Episode with Aaron: “What Can We Learn from Kierkegaard? (#136)” https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000538928799 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Given recent events in Israel and Palestine, it is inevitable that Christians focused on the Rapture and a Left-Behind-style view of the “End Times” will begin to draw explicit connections between this war and the so-called “signs of Christ’s return.” Dan is planning at least one more episode on this topic, but in the meanwhile, these two episodes, featuring conversations with four Baby Boomers who lived through the Jesus Movement, ask the question, “Why was this End Times view so popular among this group?” Understanding their situation in the 70s and 80s can help us get a handle on the larger picture. *Re-broadcast* - End Times Popularity: Part 2 (#78) Original Description: Part 2 of a series that addresses the question, “Why was End Times/Left Behind/Rapture theology *so popular* by the time we grew up in the 90s and 2000s?” Please start with Part 1, last week’s episode. My main argument: 1. The people whose evangelizing kicked off the Jesus Movement were primarily fundamentalists and they were themselves already very focused on biblical prophecy2. In the early 70s, there was enough global chaos and uncertainty, along with one very important “fulfilled prophecy” that made it seem plausible that the world might indeed be coming to a close3. By the time Left Behind came around in the 90s, that same Jesus Movement generation held the primary places of power and influence in Evangelical circles Covered in this episode:- The Jesus Movement generation were the ones with cultural power in the Evangelical world by the time Left Behind came out- A straightforward and literal reading of the Bible is always popular, especially in America, and it plays into a few common American characteristics- Where are they now? All four interviewees relay their current beliefs about the End Times- Sally answers some of the questions the original interview subjects answered in the End Times Anxiety series. YHP End Times Related Episodes: End Times Popularity Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623 End Times Popularity Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000488367624 End Times Anxiety: Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895 End Times Anxiety: Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463143577 End Times Anxiety: Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463784092 End Times Anxiety: Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000464463258 The New Evangelical Episodes on Understanding Israel and Palestine: Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000630800157 Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869 Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631185579 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Given recent events in Israel and Palestine, it is inevitable that Christians focused on the Rapture and a Left-Behind-style view of the “End Times” will begin to draw explicit connections between this war and the so-called “signs of Christ’s return.” Dan is planning at least one more episode on this topic, but in the meanwhile, these two episodes, featuring conversations with four Baby Boomers who lived through the Jesus Movement, ask the question, “Why was this End Times view so popular among this group?” Understanding their situation in the 70s and 80s can help us get a handle on the larger picture. *Re-broadcast* - End Times Popularity: Part 1 (#77) Original Description: Earlier this year, I released a 4-part series called End Times Anxiety, chronicling mental health and related challenges of younger folks who had been adversely affected by Left Behind and similar visions of the Rapture and end of the world within conservative Protestant theology and culture. Throughout working on that project, I found myself continually asking myself and others, “Why did they buy it in the first place? How did this thinking become *so popular*?” These two episodes are my attempt at answering that question, pulling from my own review of the available academic research as well as four interviews I conducted with Baby Boomers who had been a part of the Jesus Movement in the 1970s. My main argument is as follows:1. The people whose evangelizing kicked off the Jesus Movement were primarily fundamentalists and they were themselves already very focused on biblical prophecy2. In the early 70s, there was enough global chaos and uncertainty, along with one very important “fulfilled prophecy” that made it seem plausible that the world might indeed be coming to a close3. By the time Left Behind came around in the 90s, that same Jesus Movement generation held the primary places of power and influence in Evangelical circlesThis is not an exhaustive explanation, but it has helped me come up with a basic framework that helps me make sense of my 90s Left Behind-soaked experience. Hopefully, it might be helpful for you as well! YHP End Times Related Episodes: End Times Popularity Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623 End Times Popularity Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000488367624 End Times Anxiety: Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895 End Times Anxiety: Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463143577 End Times Anxiety: Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463784092 End Times Anxiety: Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000464463258 The New Evangelical Episodes on Understanding Israel and Palestine: Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000630800157 Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631062869 Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865?i=1000631185579 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan's old college friend and country artist Sam Outlaw (born Sam Morgan) joins to talk about the role of his faith/spirituality in recovering from alcohol use disorder. Along the way, they discuss authoritative vs. nurturant parenting styles, messages they received about alcohol growing up Evangelical, some of the benefits of that upbringing, and the awkwardness inherent in many parachurch organizations. Dan also brings in some of the peer-reviewed research on 12-step programs and the role of spirituality in abstinence from drinking. http://www.samoutlaw.com/ “Ghost Town” by Sam Outlaw: https://open.spotify.com/track/3VyaFDf706JddMz27syc2P?si=4dc0ef61630d4f45 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this brief solo episode, Dan shares some quick anxiety-relieving thoughts about the way that the unfolding Israel-Palestine conflict will inevitably, but falsely, be linked to predictions about the “End Times.” End Times Anxiety: Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895 End Times Anxiety: Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463143577 End Times Anxiety: Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000463784092 End Times Anxiety: Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000464463258 End Times Popularity Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623 End Times Popularity Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000488367624 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matthias Roberts joins me again! Previously we talked about healing from sexual shame; this week, he builds a bridge from that conversation to his new book Holy Runaways. After coming to terms (more or less) with sexuality issues, Matthias found that he and many of his friends were still unsure what to do with the whole “faith” thing. What was salvageable, and what were the stakes of ignoring this question? How can we avoid swapping one tribal manifesto for another? Matthias’s Book “Holy Runaways”: https://matthiasroberts.com/holyrunaways/ Matthias’s Book “Beyond Shame”: https://matthiasroberts.com/beyondshame/ Sexual Shame (#67) with Matthias: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000476415323 To Critique Purity Culture (#22): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000438857512 Denying & Embracing Emotions (#144) with Becky Castle Miller: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000550307589 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Full episode on the Patreon feed* Psychotherapist Pamela Cooper-White shares about her book “The Psychology of Christian Nationalism." We talk about white supremacy, conscious and unconscious needs, motivating via fear, “crisis merchants,” and when to ask yourself questions like, "Am I the right person to have this convo?" or "Is this the right setting for this convo"? Pamela’s Book “The Psychology of Christian Nationalism”: https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Christian-Nationalism-People-Across/dp/1506482112\ Pamela’s Book “Exploring Practices of Ministry”: https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Practices-Ministry-Foundations-Learning/dp/1451488939/ref=sr_1_1?crid=25OH51087TRPE&keywords=exploring+practices+of+ministry&qid=1696466135&s=books&sprefix=exploring+practices+of+ministry%2Cstripbooks%2C114&sr=1-1 “The Psychology of Religious Fundamentalism” Episode with Pete Hill: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-psychology-of-religious-fundamentalism-34/id1448000113?i=1000448442686 _____________ Sign up for Tripp and Dan's class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan and Tripp Fuller get themselves psyched for their upcoming online pop-up learning community on existentialism by sharing songs that remind them of death, isolation, freedom, meaning/meaninglessness, and courage. Learn more or sign up for their class, “Live Before You Die: Existentialism in Theology & Psychology”: exploringexistentialism.com _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the most recent "I Don't Believe in That God," Dan talks with former Christian missionary and current minister in The Satanic Temple Stephen Bradford Long. Stephen defines Satanism as he and Dan discuss three or four options for what people imagine when they hear the term "Satanist." Stephen shares his story from Charismatic Presbyterianism, through mainline Protestantism, to atheism, and eventually to The Satanic Temple, which was formed in 2013 as a reformation of the more widely-popular Leveyan Satanism of the 20th century. What will Dan and Stephen ultimately agree and disagree about? Listen to find out! Stephen's Website: https://stephenbradfordlong.com/ _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristen’s back with Dan to ask some of your burning Q’s and get some A’s! After talking about the need or value of religion after believing no one goes to Hell, Kristen also asks: If you could have a beer with one character from a Sci-Fi or Superhero or Fantasy genre who would it be and why? What are you going to teach your kid about sex? What are some meta-narratives in pop-culture that you enjoy that help us wrestle with some of life's important big questions? What are boundaries and how can people actually set them? How does an ex-pastor find a calling after deconstruction? Greg Cootsona's Episode"The Church is Good for You" #119: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000522907595 Hell & Universalism in a Global Context (#84): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hell-universalism-in-a-global-context-84/id1448000113?i=1000492798796 My Therapist Aid - Strength Finders Test: https://www.therapistaid.com/worksheets/strengths-exploration _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Earlier this summer, some mild controversy around a video released by Pete Enns (Bible/Faith for Normal People) brought up some interesting questions. First, if someone has experienced a particularly “toxic” version of Christianity, how equipped are they to speak about the larger Christian tradition? Second, is all Christianity inherently “toxic” (and how do we define “toxic”)? In a dual-feed episode with Tim Whitaker of The New Evangelicals, Dan and Tim explore these questions. https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/ https://www.instagram.com/thenewevangelicals/ _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*To update your Patreon giving, head to patreon.com/dankoch. Thanks for your support!* Dr. Steven Sandage (Boston University) joins Sarey Concepcion and myself for a fairly wide-ranging conversation about his own story and some of the topics he has focused on during his research career, including: -Healthy Spiritual Leadership -Spirituality as a way to maintain healthy relationships -Attachment & differentiation -How gender plays a role in healthy leadership -Humility -Unconscious loyalties Steve’s Faculty Page: https://www.bu.edu/sth/profile/steven-j-sandage/ Daryl Van Tongeren’s YHP Ep “The Good of Religion Without the Bad”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000598265196 Daryl Van Tongeren YHP Episode “You Are Not Your Beliefs”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000618349369 Robert Moore’s Book “Facing the Dragon: Confronting Personal and Spiritual Grandiosity”: https://www.amazon.com/Facing-Dragon-Confronting-Spiritual-Grandiosity/dp/1630515086/ref=asc_df_1630515086/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343187902048&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7252849562841728375&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019667&hvtargid=pla-569044490866&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=66484626902&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343187902048&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7252849562841728375&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019667&hvtargid=pla-569044490866 _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*To update your Patreon giving, head to patreon.com/dankoch. Thanks for your support!* Ex-pastor Brandon Flanery joins Dan to talk through his own research as to why people are currently leaving Christianity for non-Christian or non-religious waters. His sample skews young and LGBTQ-heavy, which is helpful for understanding the experience of sexual and gender minorities around this topic. Check out BrandonFlanery.com for more of his work. Brandon’s Book “Stumbling: A Sassy Memoir about Coming Out of Evangelicalism”: https://www.lakedrivebooks.com/books/stumbling/ Brandon’s Article on why people are leaving Christianity (Baptist News Global): https://baptistnews.com/article/i-asked-people-why-theyre-leaving-christianity-and-heres-what-i-heard/ _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From a postmodern perspective, there is no entirely objective “view from nowhere.” The Evangelical tradition, however, presents itself as ahistorical and objective. Trans ordained priest Shannon Kearns reminds us that actively working to understand the history that has shaped current theological perspectives can help us see in what ways it has influenced how we live, vote, and interact with those unlike us. He does so in part by telling his own story and arguing that contextual theologies (trans, liberation, black, feminist, etc.) offer a way to nuance and develop our faith today. Engaging with new theologies may surprise us (we might not agree with Peter and Paul after all!) but may also lead us through a beautiful and worthy struggle. In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture book: https://www.amazon.ca/Margins-Transgender-Mans-Journey-Scripture/dp/0802879489 Shannon's Website: https://www.shannontlkearns.com/ Shannon’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/shannontlkearns Shannon on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shannontlkearns _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What makes a conspiracy theory? How does it differ from healthy skepticism? Mike Austin and Greg Bock, editors of QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross, join Dan to discuss everything from the “deep state” to why biblical literalism and Christian nationalism predict conspiratorial thinking. Insights into the psychology behind conspiratorial thinking can provide strategies for meaningful dialogue in today's complex world. The crew ends by providing some practical tools for navigating these conversations with loved ones. “QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross” book: https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/8265/qanon-chaos-and-the-cross.aspx Michale’s Website: https://michaelwaustin.com/ Michael’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelwaustin _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How does music contribute to forming a community identity? Dan welcomes guest Matt Knight to talk about how “End Times” songs helped shape the cultural understanding of the Jesus Movement in the early ‘70s and beyond. Much like Billy Graham’s “Crusades,” powerful emotional experiences and songs played into the plausibility structures of this specific subculture, reinforcing the idea that Jesus was coming back soon. Dan and Matt examine songs by Larry Norman, Bob Dylan, Jackson Browne, and more. Dan’s episode on the Bible For Normal People: https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/interview-with-dan-koch-the-end-times-american-christian-culture/ End Time Anxiety EP1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000462348895 End Time Popularity EP1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000487665623 _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

**This is a deluxe rebroadcast of the "To Be Gay Affirming" episode** In this “deluxe edition” of our original episode #10 (“To Be Gay Affirming”), Samantha Perez joins Dan for a special introduction on affirming churches, what progress is being made in Christian communities around LGBTQ issues, and changes in ethical plausibility structures — that is, what ethical approaches seem reasonable given a person or community’s changing circumstances over time. Be sure to also check out Samantha and Dan’s upcoming Patreon-only episode focused on her faith and gender journey. Samantha's Twitter Handle @SkipSandwich https://www.skipsandwichdx.com/ ORIGINAL EPISODE DESCRIPTION: This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text—the Bible—that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument. Find an open & affirming church: gaychurch.org Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI James Brownson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this last episode reviewing Shiny Happy People, Dan and Mark talk about their overall impressions of the series as well as the heavy-hitting episode topics. They discuss the surprising research on content/trigger warnings, the series’s insinuation that Josh Duggar’s sexual repression led to his eventual acting out, the Joshua Generation Project, and overall assumptions regarding the motives of those featured in the documentary, noting that people are often more psychologically complex than they initially seem. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Trigger warnings meta-review: https://osf.io/qav9m/download https://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/why-predators-watch-child-pornography/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7147756/ Religious priming review: https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~ara/Manuscripts/ReligiousPrimingMetaanalysis.pdf Culture War Christianity episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000434412065 Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/ Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB Episode #122 - Authoritative vs. Nuturant Religion: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000525427433 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Even Jesus had anxiety in his life, so why are we so set on avoiding it? Theologian, author, and host of the Good Faith podcast Curtis Chang joins Dan to discuss his new book, The Anxiety Opportunity, and how we can navigate the (sometimes frightening) inevitability of loss and change. Instead of seeing anxiety as a problem to be solved by “praying” or “prescribing” it away, Curtis shows us how our feelings of uncertainty might serve as meaningful signposts in our lives. Curtis's Book "The Anxiety Opportunity": https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Opportunity-Worry-Doorway-Your/dp/031036728X/ref=asc_df_031036728X/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642191822765&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17439308303838533039&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1019973&hvtargid=pla-1944921654866&psc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwib2mBhDWARIsAPZUn_l6I2uabw11-Fl0YD755G3725NgQrw6fvGG3FPLb_uMcPwmh_98T_saAq8WEALw_wcB """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode three of the Shiny Happy People series, the story turns from the general teachings of the Institute for Basic Life Principles to more specific instances of power and abuse, such as unpaid labor from the Duggar children and Bill Gothard's grooming of sexual assault victims. Dan and Mark offer their own PSAs on cults, “brainwashing,” and the difficulty of accurately assuming individual motivations. PATREON EXCLUSIVE EPISODE: Dan and Mark go on to discuss who should take responsibility for power abuses like those that resulted from IBLP, as well as themes of celebrity and being a public person. Can we truly diversify heroes and role models? Join Patreon to hear more! """"""" Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/ YHP EP #76 "When Spiritual Heroes are Sexual Predators (Jean Vanier)": https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000486949689 Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan’s "infinity hangover", climate change, and the difference between psychiatrists and therapists: these are just some of the topics Kristen and Dan dig into in this Q&A ep! What options for those looking for new spiritual homes? How did Dan meet Tony? Would Dan remain a Christian even if religion didn’t end up being a net positive for wellbeing? Step into the realm of experimental inquiry as we embark on this Q&A adventure! Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Resources: Gaychurch.org Churchclarity.com https://www.thenewevangelicals.com/register/ Meetup.com Values worksheet: https://www.actmindfully.com.au/upimages/VALUED_Living_Questionnaire_-_adapted.pdf Volunteermatch.org https://yecaction.org/ Articles mentioned: https://www.queertheology.com/community-after-leaving-church/ https://www.vox.com/first-person/2019/6/4/18644764/church-religion-atheism-secularism https://psyarxiv.com/fsujg/ (Religious Residue) Episodes mentioned: YHP #103 with Mark Karris - Religious Disorientation & Growth: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000508185614 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 2 of Shiny Happy People depicts Gothard's obedience teaching and child discipline, including spanking and the “break their will” approach. Paired with a deep fear of God’s punishment, Dan and Mark discuss how violent approaches like spanking confuse children and can even cross the line into spiritual abuse. Part 2 (Patreon feed–subscribe to access) dives deeper into the “umbrellas of authority,” as well as grooming language and the sexual abuse as it occurred in the Duggar household. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/ www.reimagine.org/#overview YHP #37 - What Comes After Purity Culture?: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000450839620 More Purity Culture resources: https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/topics/sex-and-purity-culture Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The link between science and Christianity is frequently misunderstood, or understood as being "in conflict." This doesn’t have to be! Greg Cootsona, returning guest and author of Science and Religions in America: A New Look (Rutledge, 2023), nuances our understanding of how Christianity and other religions interact with scientific developments, both in the present day and throughout history. Where do different religious traditions find commonality? How can Christians engage with other faiths? What should the "spiritual but not religious" do? Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout for $25 off! Greg’s book “Science and Religions in America A New Look”: https://www.routledge.com/Science-and-Religions-in-America-A-New-Look/Cootsona/p/book/9781032102122?gclid=CjwKCAjwtuOlBhBREiwA7agf1vmjwztgDGOEEE4DGAZeqno3MRFWuVgYGIaxPHhDeYV7WNtUjeZ9IRoCFlkQAvD_BwE More books by Greg: https://www.routledge.com/search?author=Greg%20Cootsona Greg’s other episodes: Hell & Universalism in a Global Context #84: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000492798796 Church is Good for You #119: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000522907595 __________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Part 1 of this highly-requested series of response episodes to the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People. For these response episodes, Dan is joined by former Bill Gothard-ite Mark Scandrette. Much like the Duggar family of TLC reality series fame (“16 and Counting”), Mark was raised in the homeschool culture described in the SHP series and began his family life under Gothard’s teachings. Over the next few weeks, Dan and Mark will release four episodes, each in response to an episode of the Amazon series. This week, the two set up the context for the SHP and discuss episode one specifics, including the cultural influence and mindset of the Duggars (birth control does not cause miscarriages!), authority structures, the prosperity gospel, and homeschool culture. Dan also addresses some of the psychological realities at play: binary thinking, the fragility of purity culture, and healing through dialogue. Dan includes a "PSA" to address factual inaccuracies and misconceptions presented in the episode. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Mark's Website: http://www.markscandrette.com/ Shiny Happy People Doc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B8TR2QV5?ref=DVM_US_DL_SL_GO_AST_SHPL23_mkw_s-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_661333345146_slid__pgrid_148685833846_pgeo_9060341_x__adext__ptid_kwd-2080177786042&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDjOR_JowUp4AIO6X1sdtfQVa1WHUoPgwpQv5ZkaXx4jODFvd3kpNP0aArlJEALw_wcB ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s natural to try to protect ourselves from perceived threats. Historically, this instinct has helped us survive and navigate risk. But sometimes, creating the feeling of safety, specifically in the midst of faith changes, can come at the cost of ignoring valuable parts of ourselves. Using the model of Internal Family Systems, author and therapist Molly LaCroix helps us learn to look at all parts of our internal “family” with compassion and realize that each part plays a crucial role. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp mollylacroix.com Molly’s Book “Restoring Relationship: Transforming Fear into Love Through Connection”: https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-Relationship-Transforming-Through-Connection/dp/B08H3VDPG/ref=asc_df_B08KH3VDPG/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=509467422400&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10079099000795160328&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019667&hvtargid=pla-1238153395654&psc=1 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joining me today is author, professor (Toronto School of Theology), and theologian Natalie Wigg-Stevenson to discuss her book "Transgressive Devotion.” Natalie asks, "What theological claims are we making, and how are they contributing to how we keep producing theological knowledge?" Her free online “devotional” is made up of three modules, each of which we discuss: going from abandonment toward presence, from fear toward risk, and from certainty toward doubt. Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! Natalie’s Book “Transgressive Devotion Theology as Performance Art in 2021” (Paperback): https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Devotion-Theology-Performance-Art/dp/033405947X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=9780334059479&linkCode=qs&qid=1687812111&s=books&sr=1-1 Natalie’s Faculty Page: https://www.tst.edu/directory/faculty/wigg-stevenson-natalie ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We continue our occasional "intellectual humility" series, and this one went DEEP. Joining me were Sarey Martin Concepción and Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren (Hope College), who says that humility “is about being the right size in a situation” and “starts with psychological security." We touch on cognitive limitations and what the research says about intellectual humility and spiritual leaders. Daryl's Faculty Page: https://hope.edu/directory/people/van-tongeren-daryl/index.html Daryl’s Book “Humble: Free Yourself from the Traps of a Narcissistic World“: https://www.amazon.com/Humble-Yourself-Traps-Narcissistic-World/dp/1615198571/ref=asc_df_1615198571/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=564704733009&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13435967084262869039&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019667&hvtargid=pla-1602581144540&psc=1 Sarey’s Blueprint 1543 page: https://blueprint1543.org/about/about-sarey-martin-concepcion/ YHP "Intellectual Humility" Episode #184: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000608179436 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joining us for another WAPC episode is author, songwriter, and dynamic Instagram presence Andy Squyres (that’s the best term I can think of!). Andy says, "We live in an age where nothing can be said without it being contested," and "I see many people not finding the answers within deconstruction that deconstructionism promises." We talk about worries around pop-culture mental health work, a sometimes never-ending focus on doubt, and alternatives that are neither Christian orthodoxy nor nihilism. andysquyres.com Andy’s Instagram: @andysquyres Andy’s Linktree: https://linktr.ee/andysquyres ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Returning for a 3rd time is author and therapist Dr. Mark Karris to discuss his book "The Diabolical Trinity: Healing From a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self." Mark's work fleshes out the damaging effects of certain doctrines of hell and his research offers several approaches to healing from theologically-tinged mental health issues. We discuss different therapeutic modalities that are well-suited to religious trauma work, like Internal Family Systems and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, as well as memory consolidation, self-compassion, and more. **Dr. Karris’s definition of religious trauma was an adapted version based on that of Laura Anderson & Brian Peck (Religious Trauma Institute) and Kendra Snyder & Kayla Felten (Reclamation Collective). MarkGregoryKarris.com Mark's book "The Diabolical Trinity: Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self": https://www.amazon.com/Diabolical-Trinity-Religious-Wrathful-Tormenting-ebook/dp/B0BYPHQ4WX Mark’s 1st Episode "Toxic Christianity" & Its Damaging Claims (#45)”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000457113992 Mark’s 2nd Episode “Religious Disorientation & Growth (#103)”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/songs-stories-podcast/id807519271?i=1000614029771 YHP “The Hell Anxiety Scale (#64)” Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000457113992 YHP Episode #43 with Brad Jersak: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/songs-stories-podcast/id807519271?i=1000614029771 Unlocking the Emotional Brain book: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=unlocking+the+emotional+brain&hvadid=409952031487&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9019667&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7771513243401502275&hvtargid=kwd-41529286341&hydadcr=24625_11409876&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_7rr6fx6si5_e ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joining me today is Dale C. Allison Jr., Professor of New Testament (Princeton Theological Seminary), to discuss his book "Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age." We cover materialism, empiricism, and the prevalence of mystical, spiritual, and/or “unitive” experiences. Dale says that “people's experiences are stranger and weirder, more mystical and terrible than we usually think.” I agree with him that we need to take such experiences seriously, and Dale and I both speak about some of our own. I am less convinced than he is, however, that most of these experiences are veridical, that is, that they point us to accurate truth claims (I’ll be discussing this issue more in the months to come). Dale’s Faculty Page: https://www.ptsem.edu/people/dale-c-allison-jr Dale’s Book “Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age: https://www.amazon.com/Encountering-Mystery-Religious-Experience-Secular/dp/0802881882/ref=sr_1_1?crid=GFLY57GB8MWZ&keywords=Encountering+Mystery+dale+allison&qid=1685479203&s=books&sprefix=encountering+mystery+dale+allison%2Cstripbooks%2C101&sr=1-1 Dale’s Book “The Historical Christ and the Theological Jesus”: https://www.amazon.com/Historical-Christ-Theological-Jesus/dp/0802862624 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we're talking all about ritual with psychologist Laird Edman, who researches the cognitive science of religion, critical thinking, and emotional intelligence at Northwestern College. “People have all kinds of physiological experiences when they engage in rituals,” he says. “It taps into our endorphins" and "helps calm and de-stress people." We cover imagistic versus doctrinal ritual, orthopraxy over orthodoxy, the meaning behind rituals, and more. Laird’s Faculty Page: https://www.nwciowa.edu/psychology/faculty/laird-edman#:~:text=Laird%20Edman%20Professor%20of%20Psychology%3B%20Department%20Chair&text=Laird%20Edman%20specializes%20in%20the,teaching%20and%20assessing%20critical%20thinking Blueprint 1543 Episode with Laird: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/psych-for-theology-ministry-laird-edman/id1541066188?i=1000594724069 Dimitris Xygalatas NPR Piece on Ritual: https://www.npr.org/2022/09/13/1122796534/rituals-are-important-to-human-life-even-when-they-seem-meaningless Dimitris Xygalatas’s book on Ritual: https://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Seemingly-Senseless-Worth-Living/dp/0316462403 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's long overdue conversation, I talk with author Chris Green (Professor of Public Theology at Southeastern University - Lakeland, FL). Chris explains being raised in Pentecostalism (the focus of our conversation), discussing the radical embodied aspects of its spiritualized expression of faith. Chris says, "We can't stop making myths and stories about ourselves and assigning meaning." Dr. Chris Green’s Website: https://www.cewgreen.com/ Chris' Substack: https://substack.com/@cewgreen Lent Sermon Series: https://macrinamagazine.com/issues/lent-sermon-series/ ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is the final panel from our live event in Seattle featuring "The Big Five" (Sarah Lane Ritchie, Sarey Concepción, Tripp Fuller, Myron Penner, and Dan Koch). ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Re-joining me today is author, therapist, and researcher Krispin Mayfield to discuss his book "Attached to God: A Practical Guide to Deeper Spiritual Experience." “Attachment science” applied to our relationship to God is a topic of emerging interest for me personally. We talk through attachment trauma, the latest research findings, and how our nervous systems adapt depending on attachment style. Krispin's Book: Attached to God: https://www.amazon.com/Attached-God-Practical-Spiritual-Experience/dp/0310363799 YHP - Christian Heavy Music Episode with Krispin & Matt Carter: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000543364775 Still Face Experiment: https://www.gottman.com/blog/research-still-face-experiment/ Dr. Sue Johnson’s "Love Sense" Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyCHT9AbD_Y&t=4s "A Gentler God" by Doug Frank: https://www.amazon.com/Gentler-God-Doug-Frank/dp/0732404304 "Atonement and the New Perspective" by Stephen Burnhope: https://www.amazon.com/Atonement-New-Perspective-Stephen-Burnhope/dp/153264647X ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a dual-feed episode, also being released on my music-focused podcast Pretty Good Vibrations. Ever wondered how White Evangelical Protestants got the way they are? The music that generation created played an outsized role in the formation of their subculture, one that would come to dominate a large chunk of American sociopolitics in the coming 6 decades. And you know what? Some of it rules. (Some emphatically does not.) Lindsay Strannigan (Holy Ghosting Podcast, formerly of The Militia Group) joins me to break down this movement from a musicological angle over two parts, focusing on music released between 1967 and 1979, right up to the moment when Contemporary Christian Music truly emerges as its own cultural force (for better and for worse). Spotify playlist for today's episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3mBO62jRRLcNgrGOqtwVFf?si=b5a1da6edeb04f58 Holy Ghosting Podcast: https://www.holyghosting.com/ _____________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a dual-feed episode, also being released on my music-focused podcast Pretty Good Vibrations. Part 2 drops tomorrow! Ever wondered how White Evangelical Protestants got the way they are? The music that generation created played an outsized role in the formation of their subculture, one that would come to dominate a large chunk of American sociopolitics in the coming 6 decades. And you know what? Some of it rules. (Some emphatically does not.) Lindsay Strannigan (Holy Ghosting Podcast, formerly of The Militia Group) joins me to break down this movement from a musicological angle over two parts, focusing on music released between 1967 and 1979, right up to the moment when Contemporary Christian Music truly emerges as its own cultural force (for better and for worse). Spotify playlist for today's episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3mBO62jRRLcNgrGOqtwVFf?si=b5a1da6edeb04f58 Holy Ghosting Podcast: https://www.holyghosting.com/ _____________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sarah Lane Ritchie joins me in Seattle Live to kick off the YHP mini-con with a conversation about the current state of research into “spiritual technologies” like psychedelic drugs. Sarah also shares new heart-wrenching details about the role of toxic theology in her mother’s final months. ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined today by journalist and author Jon Ward (previous YHP & Depolarize guest) to discuss his book "Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation." We cover using language as a weapon, epistemic modesty, and falling under the spell of a charismatic leader. Jon did not grow up "amid corrupt charlatans who use the name of God to amass riches. The leaders in [his] world were true believers whose intensity of belief blinded them to their errors." Jon's Book "Testimony": https://www.amazon.com/Testimony-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1587435772 YHP Episode with Jon Ward: https://anchor.fm/s/d8dfa4e8/podcast/rss Jon's substack: https://jonward.substack.com/ ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today Sarey Concepción and I are joined by Joshua N. Hook, author and Psychologist (University of North Texas in Denton), to discuss his work in "intellectual humility." Josh says, "A lot of times, we are really certain and sure what we believe is right, and that's not always in our best interests." We discuss careful thinking, ideological conformity towards in-group/out-group, valuing relationships over epistemic accuracy, and more. Josh’s Website: https://joshuanhook.com/ Josh’s Faculty Page: https://psychology.unt.edu/content/joshua-hook Josh’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoshHook Homebrewed Christianity Episode with Ryan Burge: https://trippfuller.com/2022/05/06/ryan-burge-myths-about-religion-and-politics/ Northwind Seminary: www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kristen Tideman and Josh Gilbert join Dan to debrief the recent in-person YHP Mini-conference in Seattle. Northwind Seminary: www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Re-broadcast* - I Don't Believe in that God: Joey Holman (Man on Man) (#118) Another installment of one of my favorite types of episodes, where I chat with people who don't identify as Christian. Oftentimes, I also don't believe in the God that they don't believe in. Joey Holman (ex-Cool Hand Luke) is one half of the Polyvinyl Records duo Man on Man, alongside his boyfriend Roddy Bottum (Faith No More). He grew up in a broken home outside Atlanta, found Evangelical Christianity in his teens, experienced dissonance around his gay sexuality, and eventually did some therapy and gained a lot of insight about his journey. I truly enjoyed our wide-ranging conversation. Man on Man (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/album/6AnxYVoP4KPB14VjBnwYbd?si=53a17ebde4b34ac0 Joey IG: https://www.instagram.com/holmanholmanholman Man on Man IG: https://www.instagram.com/manonmanmusic Northwind Seminary: www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology _________________________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: https://www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: soyouredeconstructing.com Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: https://tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98Website: youhavepermissionpod.com Join Dan's email list: dankochwords.com Artwork by http://sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In an episode topic that should surprise no listeners of this show (ha!), Lore Ferguson Wilbert joins me today to discuss her book "A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us." Lore (pronounced “Lori”) aims to champion curiosity, especially in faith settings where doubt and asking questions aren't often encouraged or even allowed. She says, “Curiosity is kindness because it leads to healing". We cover some mechanisms that inhibit curiosity, like cultural taboos, technology, fear of the unknown, and partisanship. Lore’s Website: lorewilbert.com “A Curious Faith” Book: https://www.amazon.com/Curious-Faith-Questions-Someone-Would/dp/1587435691/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjwk7ugBhDIARIsAGuvgPb7dL_cCO8JxkMAIU4xl6iCOT-H8I0yCBrUmUWNgTqNfiP1JJ4lr_EaAgNmEALw_wcB&hvadid=241626459542&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9019667&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15548315582689857757&hvtargid=kwd-201740026612&hydadcr=22532_10353775&keywords=curious+faith&qid=1678723641&sr=8-1 “My Grandmother's Hand” Book by Resmaa Menakem: https://www.amazon.com/My-Grandmothers-Hands-Racialized-Pathway/dp/B08SFP773T/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjwk7ugBhDIARIsAGuvgPZSNJZdNgegub-QmDMXcLJC3vrtUzZ0Q1ygDrwPv4jrk4qfyKwpNEsaAl6rEALw_wcB&hvadid=321911793981&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9019667&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15550108997234900723&hvtargid=kwd-605848025420&hydadcr=22561_10346245&keywords=my+grandmother%27s+hand&qid=1678723580&sr=8-1 Northwind Seminary: www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Co-authors and sisters Elaine Heath (former guest) and Janine Heath McGlynn join me to discuss their co-authored memoir "Loving the Hell Out of Ourselves." They start the book with a statement of purpose, "Our heartfelt hope is that this book helps you, our readers, to know that love, not shame, not fear, not hate, not damnation, love is God's meaning." We cover subjects like poverty & neglect, patriarchal authority structures, and the role of faith in healing from abusive home environments. Northwind Open & Relational Theology Center: https://www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology “Loving the Hall Out of Ourselves” Book: https://www.amazon.com/Loving-Hell-Out-Ourselves-memoir/dp/1736845527 Elaine’s Website: https://www.elaineaheath.org/ YHP Ep #143 “The Church of the Future” with Elaine: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000548816259 “The Body Keeps the Score” Book: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+body+keeps+score&gclid=Cj0KCQiA6rCgBhDVARIsAK1kGPJWYNurphJ7pvFitjdFQz-JQ3E0ulK0LjuvE7pIqaq6SABFVqc7ZdMaAi7yEALw_wcB&hvadid=616991171471&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9019667&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5613553688352369879&hvtargid=kwd-6817364741&hydadcr=24634_13611738&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_1rceqz04c6_e “Fits, Trances, & Visions” Book by Ann Taves: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691010243/fits-trances-and-visions ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Josh Porter (Showbread) joins me today for one of our "Worries About Deconstruction" episodes to talk about his book "Death to Deconstruction: Reclaiming Faithfulness as an act of Rebellion." Despite some agreement, this conversation delves into our fundamental disagreements around objective truth claims, personal doctrines, and Christian orthodoxy. Northwind Open & Relational Theology Center: https://www.northwindseminary.org/center-for-open-relational-theology Josh’s Website: https://www.joshuasporter.com Josh’s Books: https://www.joshuasporter.com/books ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*This episode is not about trauma-focused music therapy, but rather the language festival-goers use around trauma and healing* In today's dual-feed release (also on my Pretty Good Vibrations Podcast), ethnomusicologist and author Nathan Myrick (Ph.D., Baylor University) joins me to discuss his research project studying the community surrounding Furnace Fest, a faith-adjacent heavy music festival held in Alabama. Nathan’s work focuses on "understanding humanity through the music they make, engage, and participate in." In a surprisingly emotional conversation for me, we cover the lasting effects the Christian punk/hardcore scene has had on so many people. Nathan's Website: nathanmyrick.com ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Diana Butler Bass and Tripp Fuller join me today to discuss "Empty Altars," their 6-Week Lenten Exploration of little-known American “saints.” Diana asks, “What spiritual practices, what theological languages, what kinds of stories are motivating people in a multicultural, religiously pluralistic society?” and "How can we find goodness, beauty, and justice?" Through a lens of heroism, we cover how cynicism erodes gratitude and how "awe" plays a role in engaging with these stories. You Have Permission Inaugural Mini-Conference: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/you-have-permission-inaugural-mini-conference-tickets-491165518287 Empty Altars Website: https://theonlygodordainedsurvey.com/emptyaltars/ Diana’s Website: https://dianabutlerbass.com/ Tripp’s Website: https://trippfuller.com/ Tripp’s Podcast “Homebrewed Christianity”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joining me today is author Amy Frykholm to discuss her research on rapture culture and the future of mainline Protestantism. Amy suggests questions like "How do we not get attached to our forms?", "How do we continue to be willing to experiment?" and "How do we focus on what really matters?" We discuss embodied religious expression, the alienation doubt can bring, and the Left Behind Series' effect on rapture culture. Amy’s Website: https://amyfrykholm.com/ Amy’s Podcast “In Search Of”: www.christiancentury.org/insearchof Daniel Silliman's book "Reading Evangelicals: How Christian Fiction Shaped a Culture and a Faith": www.amazon.com/Reading-Evangelicals-Christian-Fiction-Culture/dp/0802879357 Daniel Silliman's YHP Episode "Reading Christian Fiction": https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000541970308 ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert ([email protected] -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices