Real Vision: Finance & Investing

Crypto Gathering Special: Mustafa Yilham, VP of Global Business Development at Bixin; Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer for CoinShares; Caroline Cochran, co-founder and chief operating officer of Oklo; and Whit Gibbs, founder and CEO of Compass Mining discuss how Bitcoin will ultimately prove a net positive for the greening of the planet. Given recent comments from individuals such as Elon Musk on their concerns over Bitcoin's adverse affects on the environment, the Real Vision Crypto team felt that it would be only proper to present our audience with an alternative viewpoint. Recorded live on March 24, 2021 at Real Vision's Crypto Gathering. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul27,2021: Tommy Thornton, founder of Hedge Fund Telemetry, sits down with Real Vision’s Ash Bennington on the Daily Briefing to discuss price action within the NASDAQ as well as the continued onslaught against Chinese tech companies. Thornton walks through the sectors that he believes are strong and how to navigate the uncertainty surrounding popular tech companies in China. At the conclusion of today’s briefing, Ash will preview the second part of an interview with Cathie Wood conducted by Kiril Sokoloff, which you can watch right here: https://rvtv.io/3xaMOMi. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul26,2021: Darius Dale, founder of 42 Macro, sits down with Real Vision’s Ash Bennington and Jack Farley on the Daily Briefing to discuss Bitcoin’s rebound, Chinese regulatory concerns, and deflationary signals on Dale’s radar. Dale explains potential tailwinds for Bitcoin’s recent strength despite the increase in China’s regulation of technology and educational companies. Before the briefing concludes, Ash and Jack will preview an interview with Cathie Wood conducted by Kiril Sokoloff, which you can watch right here: https://rvtv.io/3xaMOMi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Could a slowdown in credit creation and a tightening of monetary conditions push bond yields lower and threaten risk assets? Alfonso Peccatiello, fixed income investor and publisher of the Macro Compass, believes that’s possible. Peccatiello contends that inflation is indeed transitory, and, disagreeing with the "bond vigilantes," he argues that cash, bonds, and volatility protection will perform better in this environment than high-beta assets such as commodities and bank stocks. Interviewed by Real Vision’s Jack Farley on July 2, 2021. Peccatiello's blog, The Macro Compass, can be found here: https://themacrocompass.substack.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul23,2021: Along with Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington, Real Vision CEO and co-founder Raoul Pal welcomes Julian Brigden, co-founder of MI2 Partners, for his Real Vision Daily Briefing debut. As a special edition of the Daily Briefing, Pal and Brigden will be diving deep into their respective frameworks, discussing the differences in how they’re seeing the macro picture as well as rallying around where they are aligned. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul22,2021: Petr Pinkhasov of Real Vision's Exchange joins Real Vision’s Samuel Burke and Jack Farley on the Daily Briefing to discuss new data related to jobless claims in addition to developments surrounding central bank actions to deal with inflation. Pinkhasov also explains the effect of supply increases on oil prices and how central banks are approaching tapering asset purchases. The trio analyzes the increase in jobless claims despite the labor shortage that many business owners are experiencing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crypto Special ; Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Ryan Berckmans, investor and Ethereum community member, to discuss the evolution of Ethereum and the changes forthcoming that will further solidify its role in the crypto ecosystem. Berckmans explains that Ethereum’s novelty stems from being an open-access global computer, which leads to credible neutrality, and he lays out how this undergirds Ethereum’s tactical applications. He also talks through Ethereum’s transition to a proof of stake (PoS) protocol and what benefits this transition holds for Ethereum and for the crypto space as a whole. Recorded on May 27, 2021. Key Learnings: Berckmans describes how Ethereum is a credibly neutral platform as an open-access world computer, allowing developers to leverage its network for end user and middleware applications and leading to more innovative and frictionless executions of financial services. He also discusses how one of the biggest risks to the Ethereum network currently is its transition to a PoS protocol; however, the development of Ethereum 2.0 will offer more security alongside opportunities for scaling and value generation that would otherwise be impossible on a proof of work (PoW) model. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul21,2021: Peter Boockvar, CIO of Bleakley Advisory Group, joins Real Vision’s Ash Bennington and Jack Farley on the Daily Briefing to share his insights into market expectations of economic growth as stocks continue to move higher and inflation fears wane. The trio takes a look at Bitcoin’s price actions as it struggles to meaningfully move higher. Boockvar also dives into the recent bond rally to determine investor expectations of inflation and examines the future of oil prices as supply increases are imminent. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul20,2021: With U.S. stocks rallying off of yesterday’s steep selloff while bonds remain relatively flat, what risks are markets pricing in currently, and what opportunities does that lead to for investors? Tony Greer of TG Macro joins Ash Bennington, senior editor at Real Vision, to discuss Greer’s impression of the Monday selloff and what that spells for equities, bonds, commodities, and the dollar going forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul19,2021: Darius Dale, founder of 42 Macro, joins Real Vision’s Jack Farley and Ash Bennington to share his updated framework on equity markets, bond yields, and oil prices as delta variant concerns force a market correction. Dale dives into macro data points indicating whether the stock market correction is driven by the delta variant or overbought assets. The trio also examines OPEC’s decision to boost output and its long-term implications for oil’s bull run this year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Christian Angermayer, founder of Apeiron Investments, Atai Life Sciences, and COMPASS Pathways, made headlines for attributing his decision to invest in Bitcoin to a trip on mushrooms, but his journey as an investor and advocate for psychedelics goes much deeper than the clickbait. In this interview with Mike Green, Angermayer discusses how he went from a successful investor living the straight edge life to founding and eventually IPOing two startups, which are at the cutting edge of research into how mushrooms and other psychedelics could revolutionize the way we think about treating mental health issues. Together, they discuss the parallels between the modern human experience and other times of great change, how this is manifesting itself in societal and individual angst, and why this might make today the perfect time for broader acceptance of these treatments. They also touch on Green's own personal experience with mushrooms and Angermayer's optimistic approach to investing in technologies driving human progress. Recorded on May 8, 2021. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Legendary venture capitalist Bill Tai is an expert in identifying exponential trends. He has been an angel investor in more than 20 companies that have gone public, including Zoom and Dapper Labs. Tai returns to Real Vision to share with co-founder and CEO Raoul Pal what makes an exponential valuation and how the low interest rate environment has caused a surge in P/E multiples, richly rewarding high-growth technology companies. The two discuss how the current wave of NFTs and the adoption of the Metaverse unlock a new layer of value that brings economic empowerment, resulting in a new style of business based around community and platforms. Recorded May 7, 2021. Key Learnings: Tai is now looking to invest in companies with massively asymmetric risk, such as healthcare and renewables, where he sees potential for network effects to be created in these sectors. He shares his guiding principles behind every technology company he invests in: lower the friction to a use case, increase replicability of the behavior, and build a back end tuned for great scalability. To continue the discussion with fellow Real Vision members on Raoul and Bill's interview, click here to visit the Exchange: https://rvtv.io/3uHKsUL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Nick Halaris, president at Metros Capital, welcomes Jim Rehlaender, CEO at JLP Asset Management, to discuss the US housing market, Covid-19's impact on real estate, and the effects of rising raw materials prices. He argues that rising construction costs and heightened demand for suburban land have contributed to the increase in home prices. This has presented a unique opportunity in rental properties as families decide where they want to settle after the pandemic. Rehlaender does not believe that high lumber prices are sustainable as an uptick in interest rates and delaying developments will curtail the demand for homes. The pair also discuss the impact on commercial real estate as businesses decide if their employees will return to work in person or remain remote. Recorded on June 8, 2021. Key Learnings: Rehlaender explains his firm’s strategy of investing in publicly listed companies that are owners or operators of real estate assets. As Rehlaender analyzes potential investments, he ensures that the company has a good management team and an effective business strategy. He stresses that it is important to invest in people that can help poorly managed properties recover. However, if Rehlaender's team does not understand the market dynamics or property type, they will avoid investing in that company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-July16,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Raoul Pal, CEO and co-founder of Real Vision, to share his thoughts on Real Vision’s recent campaign, “After the Hype: Reality Sets in for NFTs” as well as provide a strategic update on his macro thinking. Together, they discuss the highlights from the campaign as well as their takeaways, and Raoul explains the role that NFTs serve in his Exponential Age framework. He also touches on the broader financial markets, talking through his perspective on the evolving inflation narrative that has captured market sentiment. To learn more about "After the Hype: Reality Sets in for NFTs," click on this link here: https://rvtv.io/NFTWeek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-July15-2021: Jared Dillian of the Daily Dirtnap joins Real Vision’s Ash Bennington and Jack Farley on the Daily Briefing to discuss a pandemic low for jobless claims and market reactions to recently released manufacturing surveys. The trio takes a look at the labor market dichotomy between jobless claim decreases and labor shortages. Dillian shares his perspective on sectors he is watching as FED governors voice their support for tapering talks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crypto Wednesday: Ash Bennington, Real Vision senior crypto editor, hosts Bitcoin developer, educator, and entrepreneur Jimmy Song to discuss how his thoughts on Bitcoin have been evolving over the last year, its future, alt-season, and the path to decentralization. Song states that value is not intrinsic, but rather subjective, and is the utility an individual can derive out of it. He explains that scarcity also factors into value, particularly money, and in that regard, Bitcoin is the ultimate store of value. As the current monetary system has a constant flow of money pushed through the economy at a high velocity, thereby creating wealth, Song explores how any form of solitary money would lose value in this system and how long-term stores of value such as real estate, stocks, and gold have power consolidated among only a few, which makes this system flawed. On the other hand, Bitcoin does not have any of these problems. Recorded on May 10th, 2021. Key Learnings: Song states Bitcoin is a savings technology, one that can be used over a long period of time. This, in turn, allows societies to focus on improving the future. Within the current monetary system, continual currency debasement, re-investment, and losses due to transactional fees can burden individuals too heavily in retaining the value of their money and can prevent society from bringing new goods and services to the market. Song believes Bitcoin is a civilization building technology, which can enable society to flourish in new and exciting ways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul 13,2021: Tommy Thornton, president at Hedge Fund Telemetry, joins the Daily Briefing to discuss the CPI print released today, equity pricing, and earnings season. Thornton, along with Real Vision’s Ash Bennington, examines the effect that the CPI print will have on the FED’s dovish commitment to the economy. Additionally, the pair looks at how different markets are reacting to the high consumer price index figure and if sentiment is changing towards inflation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul12,2021: Darius Dale, founder and CEO of 42 Macro, joins the Daily Briefing to discuss his updated outlook on inflation expectations and market sentiment as the S&P 500 hits a new intra-day high. Dale joins Real Vision’s Ash Bennington and Samuel Burke to examine the results of the New York Fed’s Consumer Survey for inflation expectations. Additionally, the trio looks at the possibility of an ECB policy shift as it looks to continue its monetary stimulus to support Europe’s reopening economy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Real Vision Live Replay: The risk of inflation is clearly one of the top market narratives for 2021, and many investors are buying in. But how do you actually build a portfolio to benefit from inflation? Whether it's energy, real estate, precious metals, or soft commodities, everyone seems to have a different answer. James Davolos, portfolio manager and research analysts at Horizon Kinetics, is responsible for doing just that, in their fund $INFL. In this interview with Ed Harrison, he explains his framework for building a diversified portfolio that benefits from inflation. Davolos also explains what inflation means to him and how he measures it, as everyone seems to have a different definition of what inflation actually is and how best to measure it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Imran Lakha of Options Insight and Brent Kochuba of SpotGamma are veterans of the options market, and they join Real Vision to shed light on how options exert a hidden pressure on the stock market. Most associate the phrase “gamma squeeze” with GameStop, but Kochuba notes that gamma squeezes are very common, noting the various ways in which dislocations in dealer gamma can drive price action in indices such as the S&P 500 but also in single-name equities like Tesla and Apple. He describes his quantitative method to identify levels of gamma resistance in single-name equities and index futures, using detailed charts levels to spot what he names "call walls" and "volatility triggers." Kochuba and Lakha make sense of the drastic transformation the options market has undergone over the past year, and they speculate on the future of this highly sophisticated asset class. Lastly, Lakha shares with Kochuba his findings in the nascent world of crypto derivatives. Recorded on May 3rd, 2021. Key learnings: The explosion in single-stock option volumes means that options are now playing a huge role in driving price action in the equity market. Kochuba argues that this new environment offers the venturesome trader an opportunity to exploit the option market makers' to hedge their exposure. Lakha notes that Bitcoin and Ethereum exhibit call skew, which offers opportunities that are rarely seen in traditional capital markets. Lakha's website is https://www.options-insight.com/ and Kochuba's analysis can be found here: https://spotgamma.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Dario Perkins, managing director of macro at TS Lombard, argues that we are seeing a global regime shift in economic policy from monetary dominance to fiscal dominance. In this interview with Real Vision managing editor Ed Harrison, Perkins explains how this change will have wide-ranging implications for economies and financial markets. He sees Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) as instrumental as the "software" for making this shift possible. But although he welcomes change, Perkins believes the endgame for this structural break is inflation. In the medium-term, that will mean greater economic growth, gently rising bond yields, and a return to value over growth in equity markets. But eventually, down the line, inflation will set in. Perkins believes gold is the hedge for that outcome. Recorded on April 29, 2021. For more on Dario Perkins' background, click here: https://www.tslombard.com/dario-perkins. TS Lombard's website can be found here: https://www.tslombard.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

CB-Jul09,2021: The 8-day rally in U.S. Treasury bonds finally breaks as global equities take back much of yesterday’s sell-off. Real Vision’s Ash Bennington, Weston Nakamura, and Jack Farley analyze today’s price action, as well as how the surge in job openings surge in the U.S. is reshaping dynamics in the American labor market. Lastly, Weston shares his thinking on correlations between U.S. bond yields and price swings in $AMC and other meme stocks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul08,2021: Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer of Bleakley Advisory Group, joins Real Vision’s Samuel Burke and Jack Farley to make sense of the risk-off sentiment that dragged down almost every stock index worldwide deep in the red. Boockvar scrutinizes the U.S. bond market and attributes the violent flattening of the yield curve to the FOMC meeting earlier this month that rocked market participants. He tells Burke and Farley how the churning of certain reflation trades in light of the Delta Variant is affecting his perspective on energy, copper, precious metals, as well as equity markets in Developed Asia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul07,2021 :Darius Dale, founder and CEO of 42Macro, joins the Daily Briefing to discuss his updated outlook on FAANG stocks, the retreat from Chinese tech stocks, and the release of the FED’s FOMC minutes. Bianco joins Real Vision’s Jack Farley and Samuel Burke to discuss the rise in tech stocks as bond yields fall to a 4-month low. Additionally, the trio analyzes DIDI’s situation amidst Chinese regulation and the minutes from the latest FOMC meeting released today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crypto Wednesday: Real Vision co-founder and CEO Raoul Pal hosts Mathias Imbach, co-founder of Sygnum, to discuss Imbach's background, Sygnum's services, European regulations, central banks, and the future of digital currencies. The notion of leveraging today's internet infrastructure to monetize data at the cost of users triggered a fear in Imbach concerning where the current financial structure could ultimately lead. It was in the discovery of the Ethereum white paper that Imbach realized that there could be a better way with smart contracts giving users more control over their data. With that in mind, Imbach co-founded Sygnum with the goal to build a system that was regulatory compliant to help bring real adoption to the space, building a bridge from today's financial world to where they believe future finance will be. Imbach explains that Sygnum's mission is to empower everyone with more access to ownership and value, and he explains that while one may view a bank as doing the opposite because it is a centralized entity, it’s the first step toward that ultimate goal. It requires taking regulators, governments, and national banks along with you from a legacy system to help found and scale a new one. Key Learnings: Imbach states that although Sygnum has a banking license, he identifies the firm as a technology company. According to Imbach, the ethos of Sygnum is that the future has heritage. While the current financial infrastructure is heading towards a smarter, more decentralized, and accessible direction, elements of today's world will not simply vanish—Sygnum aims to combine these elements. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul06,2021 :Weston Nakamura returns to the Daily Briefing to discuss his updated outlook on oil prices as OPEC+ struggles to strike a deal. Nakamura, joined by Real Vision’s Ash Bennington, shares his thoughts on other commodities and market sentiment as elevated prices could serve as evidence for temporary supply bottlenecks or persistent inflation. The pair looks at China’s increased regulation and its impact on Chinese companies traded in U.S. markets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: At a time when the mainstream narrative revolves around the risk of an overheating US economy and consumer price inflation, David Rosenberg, president and chief economist & strategist of Rosenberg Research & Associates Inc., is the ultimate contrarian voice. In this interview with Real Vision’s Ed Harrison, Rosenberg acknowledges the strength of the US economy and is willing to switch tack if the data warrant it later this year. However, he expects, contrary to most, that the economy’s vigor will fade as government stimulus does and that the post-financial crisis precautionary savings rates to go even higher in this cycle, resulting in less growth and less inflation than is priced into US equities. Rosenberg remains bullish on bonds and on Asian equities, particularly in China. Believing that alpha is king now, he thinks we have entered a stock picker’s world where riding an uptrend through passive investing or in ETFs will not work. Filmed on April 27, 2021. If you want to keep up with Rosenberg's research, you can start a free 30-day trial here: https://bit.ly/3pQ4nyB. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul02,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes editor Jack Farley and Mark Ritchie II, CIO at RTM Capital Advisors, to discuss the June jobs report and capital markets price action. The trio covers the strong increase in U.S. jobs and its effects on underlying markets. Bennington and Farley analyze the rise in both bonds and stocks as positive employment data boost investor confidence. Ritchie provides his insight into the equity markets and the potential rotation back into tech. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul01,2021 :Real Vision’s Jack Farley welcomes Samuel Burke, managing editor, and Weston Nakamura to discuss the decline in U.S. jobless claims and surging oil prices as OPEC agrees to increase production. The trio covers the economic recovery as jobless claims decline and advanced unemployment benefits expire. Additionally, they explain the implications of OPEC’s decision to increase production starting in August as oil prices spike due to demand from wealthy countries. Burke and Farley continue to follow the delta variant as new countries institute travel restrictions to prevent the spread. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jul01,2021 :Real Vision’s Jack Farley welcomes Samuel Burke, managing editor, and Jared Dillian of The Daily Dirtnap to the Daily Briefing to discuss U.S. treasury yields, commodity prices, and delta variant concerns. Dillian explains his investment framework amidst growing fears of the delta variant in the U.S. The trio covers decreasing treasury yields and their effect on the inflation trade. Further, they examine the nuances of the commodity market as lumber prices move lower and oil prices remain resilient. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crypto Wednesday: To learn more about Decentral Park and how to participate in their fund visit: http://rvtv.io/DeFiinvestment John Quinn, CIO and general partner of Decentral Park Capital, discusses the fastest growing sector of the crypto market today—decentralized finance (DeFi). Founded in 2017, Decentral Park Capital is a digital asset manager that brings a combination of long experience in traditional finance, emerging market business development, and deep domain expertise in the digital asset domain. Quinn describes DeFi as a collection of applications across a wide range of financial primitives that seek to replicate legacy financial blocks on-chain, which means middle-men are quickly being replaced by middleware, unlocking huge efficiencies in the process. DeFi has already climbed to a $120 billion market in just a few years, finding clear product-market fit along the way, and Decentral Park’s thesis is that DeFi represents the brand new backbone of the global financial system. Decentral Park is launching their new 24-month DeFi Fund that will be investing solely in assets that sit within this growing DeFi ecosystem. Prior to Decentral Park Capital, John co-founded Storj Labs, a leading decentralized cloud storage provider. Prior to that, he was a tech investment banker at Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank. Recorded on March 19, 2021. Key Learnings: One of the most valuable aspects of DeFi is that it is open and permissionless, which stands in stark contrast to traditional finance. DeFi has grown tremendously over the last few years, but it is still in the very early days in its adoption life cycle. Decentral Park Capital's use of on-chain data can provide valuable insights to those looking for big investment opportunities in the DeFi space. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun29,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Real Vision interim managing editor Samuel Burke and Tommy Thornton of Hedge Fund Telemetry to the Daily Briefing to discuss Bitcoin’s rebound and market sentiment as delta variant fears grow. Thornton shares his bullish outlook for Bitcoin and potential explanations for its recent bounce from 6-month lows. In addition, Burke provides a unique perspective on European lockdowns and investor opinions as the delta variant of Covid-19 continues to spread. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun28,2021: Real Vision managing editor Samuel Burke welcomes Jack Farley and Darius Dale, founder and CEO of 42 Macro, to the Daily Briefing to discuss Dale’s macro outlook and weigh the possibility of deflation. The trio will cover the recent U.K. ban on Binance and its effects on crypto assets. Additionally, they will discuss the strength of the dollar and GDP projections in a potentially deflationary environment. Finally, they will examine oil stocks ahead of the OPEC meeting scheduled for Thursday. For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Real Vision Live Replay: Michael Vranos, founder and CEO of Ellington Management Group, has been known as "the most powerful man on Wall Street" and, over the course of his almost 30 years running Ellington, has been able to adapt his firm, generating exceptional risk-adjusted returns through the LTCM crisis in 1998, the GFC in 2008, and most recently the COVID-19 crisis of 2020. In this interview with Raoul Pal, Vranos will share his personal journey; the early lessons he learned from LTCM and how he structured his firm accordingly; his views on leverage, tail risk hedging, and the costs and benefits of illiquid investments; and the current opportunities he is eyeing in financial equities like REITs, structured credit, and loan securitization. Viewers should be aware that this is an interview for pros by pros, and although not inherently actionable for most individual investors, it should be viewed as an unbelievable look behind the curtain of how one of the most successful hedge fund managers of all time thinks about markets and the business of running a hedge fund. To go alongside this segment, we've prepared a set of notes for this interview. You can access them here: https://rvtv.io/3gm1vYf For our Listeners: Head to https://www.rocketlawyer.com/workconfidently to start your free 7-day trial today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Gary Shilling, president of A. Gary Shilling & Co., joins Real Vision managing editor Ed Harrison to evaluate the health of the economy and how it impacts the future path of assets such as bonds, real estate, and stocks. Shilling notes that the consensus view—that the economy is going to re-open very rapidly, that inflation is going to come roaring back, and that interest rates will go through the roof—contradicts the lessons he has learned across his storied career in financial markets. Shilling argues that the four-decade-long trend of declining interest rates on U.S. Treasurys will continue, and he shares with Harrison several investment ideas in commodities and bonds that allow investors to be cautious without being actively bearish. Shilling and Harrison also discuss trends such as working-from-home, the residential real estate boom, and the savings glut in Asian countries. Recorded on April 21, 2021. Key learnings: Shilling is very bullish on bonds and views the recent rise in commodity prices with some skepticism. He has his eye on small positions and is only willing to size-up his trades once he has seen confirmation of his thesis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Marin Katusa, chairman of Katusa Research, returns to Real Vision to share a new thesis on how the rise of ESG (environmental, social, and governance) will forever transform the way commodities are produced. Katusa argues that companies that comply with ESG standards will be able to secure a lower cost of capital and, in so doing, will be at an extreme advantage to those who do not. Katusa provides his updated views on gold, silver, copper, uranium, and rare earths, and he argues that green energy will be a catalyst for America to re-emerge as the global hegemon of the world order. Katusa is the author of the recently released book, "The Rise of America: Remaking the World Order." Recorded on May 20, 2021. Key learnings: Katusa argues that companies and investors who can ride the ESG wave will be handsomely rewarded, but that those who ignore this inexorable change do so at their own peril. He is very constructive on carbon credits, particularly "blue" carbon credits, and thinks that copper and silver might have run a bit too hot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun25,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Raoul Pal to the Daily Briefing to discuss his thoughts on inflation, the strength of the dollar, and winners in an exponential age. The pair will cover potential explanations for flattened personal spending as continued supply constraints push prices higher. Additionally, they will dive into the companies positioned to succeed in an era that emphasizes network effects. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Db-Jun24,2021 : Real Vision’s Samuel Burke, Jack Farley Ash Bennington discuss U.S President Joe Biden’s announcement that a deal on infrastructure has been reached, and the potential significance that the bond market barely budged on the news. They also analyze how the re-emergence of share buybacks will affect an equity market that continues to make all-time highs. The three also explore whether recent economic data, such as durable goods orders and jobless claims, indicate a rising potential of deflation. Special Festival of Learning offer - 10% off with the code DAILYBRIEFING. http://www.realvision.com/festival Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun23,2021: Real Vision’s Jack Farley welcomes Samuel Burke, Real Vision managing editor, and Weston Nakamura to the Daily Briefing to discuss the S&P 500 trending higher, effects of global vaccination campaigns, and the rise in oil prices. The trio will analyze the bullish sentiment present in the market as vaccination rates continue to improve. Nakamura and Burke also look at the oil market as summer driving demand escalates. Special Festival of Learning offer - 10% off with the code DAILYBRIEFING. http://www.realvision.com/festival Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crypto Wednesday: Aztec co-founder Thomas Walton-Pocock hosts Zooko Wilcox, CEO of Electric Coin Company, to discuss Zcash, privacy, technical barriers, and innovation. Zcash, a decentralized, open-source cryptocurrency, is most identified by individuals for its built-in encryption which allows for private data in a public blockchain. Zcash's most important feature, according to Wilcox, is its dev fund—it's self-funding, which allows developers to continuously improve the protocol in order to prevent the currency from being undermined, weakened, vulnerable to capture, or steered in a direction for an individual's benefit. Some investors treat privacy, whether offered by Zcash or any other protocol, merely as an additional feature; however, Wilcox explains that because privacy is a fundamental aspect of its design, the Zcash protocol is stronger than other protocols that add privacy as a feature on top. Recorded on April 20, 2021. Key Learnings: According to Wilcox, privacy is a human right—consumers need it and are losing it to the internet. Wilcox saw Bitcoin as having a head start, and Zcash would be a niche alternative for those who were especially sensitive or motivated, or most importantly, for commerce. With its funding, continuous evolution, and use of zero knowledge, Wilcox believes that Zcash and its scalability could become the gold standard for usage. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun,22,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Tommy Thornton of Hedge Fund Telemetry and to the Daily Briefing to discuss Bitcoin’s crash, FED Chair Powell’s testimony, and market sentiment as stocks rebound. The pair will cover potential explanations for Bitcoin’s reversal as well as implications for companies in the space such as Coinbase. Additionally, they will dive into both commodity and stock market reactions to FED Chair Powell’s testimony on the state of the economy. Special Festival of Learning offer - 10% off with the code DAILYBRIEFING. www.realvision.com/festival Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Michael Kao, CEO of Akanthos Capital Management, returns to Real Vision to give his outlook on oil and energy markets. Kao highlights energy's outperformance in inflationary environments, positive roll dynamics making carrying long oil futures more attractive, and the shift in policy for OPEC+. Kao also highlights two potential feedback loops he sees for oil--one sending prices higher and the other creating issues for oil and other risk assets. Finally, Kao takes a long-term view analyzing when and how EV penetration will actually affect oil demand and the question of whether shale production will spoil the next big oil price spike. Recorded on April 20, 2021. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-JUN 21,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes editor Jack Farley and managing editor Samuel Burke to the Daily Briefing to discuss Bitcoin’s recent decline, FED policy implications, and American Airlines. The trio will analyze China’s crackdown on Bitcoin mining as well as increased regulation of cryptocurrency services for China’s largest banks. Additionally, they will cover American Airline’s logistical problems as travel demand returns and explain the differing inflation outlooks highlighted in the FED’s dot plot ahead of Chair Powell’s meeting with Congress on Tuesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Real Vision Live Replay: The global currency market dwarfs all other markets in its size. Although in weeks like this it is easy to get sucked in by the high volatility in equities, bonds, and crypto, the currency market can provide huge signals about what is actually going on under the surface. Andreas Steno Larsen, chief strategist at Nordea Markets, returns to Real Vision to update viewers on his outlook for major and exotic currency pairs and to help viewers make sense of the signals that currencies are sending for other assets amid a spike in bond and equity volatility. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Interview: Dwight Anderson of Ospraie Ag Science is well known as one of Julian Robertson’s famous "Tiger Cubs" and, for the last 20 years, has been one of the leading investors in agriculture and farming. After realizing the headwinds on the horizon for farmers and traditional agriculture investments, his focus has shifted to the cutting edge of agriculture technologies that will help farmers combat these headwinds by farming smarter, more efficiently, and more sustainably. In addition to highlighting the most important trends and technologies in agtech, Anderson will discuss the case for agtech as an ESG investment for carbon reduction, illustrate the ways agtech can help fight nutritional disparities in the U.S., and break down the difference in opportunity sets between public and private markets. Recorded on April 16, 2021 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun18,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes Raoul Pal, CEO and co-founder of Real Vision, to explore recent price action of the key macro variable--the dollar--and its impact on markets. In light of the DXY breaking to the upside in the past couple days, Pal provides an update on his macro outlook and where the inflation narrative fits into his perspective. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun17,2021: Senior editor Ash Bennington and editor Jack Farley welcome Real Vision’s new interim managing editor Samuel Burke to the Daily Briefing. The trio cover the big declines in commodities such as gold, oil, and soybeans alongside a rally in the 30-year U.S. Treasury bond and technology stocks. In the crypto world, Burke inspects the World Bank’s rejection of El Salvador’s request to use Bitcoin as legal tender, and Bennington updates viewers on the utter collapse of a stablecoin known as Titan. Farley and Burke also take a look at OnlyFans’ exploration to sell shares as well as the Bank of America’s fund managers survey, which shows that the majority of portfolio managers agree with the Federal Reserve that inflation will be transitory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun16,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington hosts Real Vision’s Ed Harrison and Jack Farley to break down an action-packed day as Fed Chair Jerome Powell responds to mounting inflationary pressure with the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) concluding their two-day policy meeting. The group covers how the market participants are reacting in real time, not only to the Fed’s direct actions but also their forward projections of interest rates (known as “the dot plot”) as well as their estimates for future economic growth and inflation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Real Vision Crypto: As people are spending increasingly more time in virtual worlds (also known as the metaverse), Janine Yorio, managing director of Republic Realm, joins Real Vision's Haley Draznin to discuss an entirely new asset class that has evolved: digital real estate investment. The fund focuses on the acquisition, management, development, and sale of virtual land, known as parcels, across metaverses including Decentraland, The Sandbox, Axie Infinity, CryptoVoxels, among others. Recorded on April 21, 2021. Key Learnings: Digital real estate has the potential to deliver long-term outsized returns due to the rise of cryptocurrencies and the rapidly growing digital currency asset class. It is evolving into a viable store of wealth like real-world real estate, real-world art, and even website domain names due to its scarcity value, ability to monetize from high "foot traffic" and transferability. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

DB-Jun15,2021: Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington welcomes back Tony Greer of TG Macro to anticipate the Fed’s forecasts and policy moves and explore where Greer thinks markets are headed next. Greer provides a strategic update on commodities, equities, and the macro picture as well as his thoughts on inflation’s trajectory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices