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A week ago Laura ran debut marathon in New York City and in this episode Steph asks Laura (fresh off the plane!!) all the questions you guys have been asking. Will you do another marathon? What got you through when it got hard? How did you handle going to the toilet on the course? How are your toenails? And what's next!? We'll be back in your ears on Monday <3 WE MENTIONED This is the Spotify playlist we mentioned https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2CfWkeIJ4DybgdHUWkS52c?si=7kukfwqYSSuD-Kl8EXEe4A&pi=a-L9nGSi7wQvOW&nd=1&dlsi=81d6e63025174de7 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steph is pregnant!!! If you follow Steph online you would’ve seen yesterday that she, her husband Josh, and their son Harvey are welcoming a second baby into their family and today Steph shares all about it! Steph talks about telling Harvey, which foods are giving her the ick, how this pregnancy is different to her first with Harvey, finding out the gender and more! But we want your questions! We’ll put a question box on our Instagram Story for you to send your questions to Steph to answer in an upcoming episode. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Woman Of The Hour https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81728818?source=35 Steph: Anna Kendrick on Call Her Daddy https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/anna-kendrick-pitch-perfect-twilight-relationships/id1418960261?i=1000674059615 Laura: The Whole Truth by Jackie O (an Almost Special Share!) https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-whole-truth-9781761348655 Laura: Woman Of The Hour (a But Not If You’re Anxious Special Share) FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Steph brings a very detailed story of laughing hysterically during sex thanks to a new vibrator. If you work with, are related to, or know Steph in real life…please skip forward this one! PLUS Laura smashed the NYC Marathon overnight and she's sent in a quick voice note from the start line and the finish line about how it went 👏 And Steph wants to say thank you to everyone who sent her messages about her ADHD diagnosis <3 SPECIAL SHARES Steph: I Am Sam https://www.netflix.com/au/title/60021799?source=35 Laura: The Perfect Couple https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81474158?source=35 Kic UPDATE The Kic Marathon program is here! If running a marathon is on your bucket list, our brand new KICRUN 21-42.2km program will help you conquer your goal with confidence. Developed by physios, Laura will guide you through 3 runs per week, with an optional 4th, as you run towards your very first marathon in 16 weeks. Filled with motivational cues and training tips, the program will help you enhance your performance and power you through each run. Get ready to challenge your body, feel empowered and prove to yourself just how capable you are! FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tarang Chawla became an activist against men’s violence after his sister Nikita Chawla was murdered by her partner in 2015. We’ve been talking about violence against women a lot on the podcast this year (and every year) because unfortunately it’s an issue that’s not going away. In this episode we invite Tarang onto the podcast for the third time to talk about men’s violence, the impact of alcohol and gambling on violence, and what you can do as a bystander to safely stand up to street harassment. Plus Laura shares about her experience witnessing and standing up to a group of drunk and aggressive young men at the AFL Grand Final and what Tarang would’ve done in the same situation. WE MENTIONED The ‘Stand Up Against Street Harassment’ training https://www.standup-international.com/au/en/training/landing The first time Tarang was on the podcast in ‘The Raw Reality of Domestic Abuse and Family Violence’ https://pod.fo/e/238cc6 The second time Tarang was on the podcast ‘A topic too many people avoid’ from December 2022 https://pod.fo/e/224092 FOLLOW US Tarang @tarangchawla on InstagramKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After a six year hiatus, the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show returned this year. The show was choreographed by an all-female team and featured greater cultural, age and body diversity than ever before, but the show still fell short in many ways. We have our say. Plus Laura lost a diamond in her wedding ring which made us wonder if any of you guys had ring horror stories…and you did! SPECIAL SHARES Steph: pod coffee machines Laura: Lonely Planet on Netflix (an ANTI Special Share!) https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81157573?source=35 Kic UPDATE Stretch Pilates is new in app today! 4 in 5 women don’t stretch enough. So we’ve introduced Christina’s brand new stretch Pilates classes, combining your favourite flows with a deep juicy stretch. Whether you’re recovering from a run or feeling it after leg day at the gym, stretch it out with 12 classes to choose from. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s a personal one this week as Steph shares what’s been going on behind the scenes for her over the past year and a bit. PLUS Laura's been spending so much time in activewear training for the New York City Marathon that she's feeling a little…uncomfortable down there. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: The Year I Met My Brain - Matilda Boseley https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-year-i-met-my-brain-9780143779773 Laura: the By Katia body oil and body brush https://bykatia.com/product/by-katia-ritual-pack/ WE MENTIONED Steph mentioned her KICBUMP episode with Em Rusciano. You can listen here https://pod.fo/e/2657ca Kic UPDATE Our IRL KICRUN Clubs are back! Join the KICRUN Club every Saturday morning in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, London and our newest location, Perth! If it's your first time coming along, make sure you fill out the waiver here: https://kicapp.com/kicrun-club/and join our KICRUN Chat groups in our Facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kicapp FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Froomes (aka Lucinda Price) is a writer, comedian, broadcaster and author of ‘All I Ever Wanted Was To Be Hot’. Her book is a memoir-meets-manifesto about her experience with anorexia and binge eating disorder as well as exploring the pressures on young women to look a certain way. In this special conversation we sit down with Lucinda to find out why she got a nose job and breast augmentation, and how she feels differently about each surgery, how moving from Melbourne to Sydney and working in media pushed her to change her body, the moment she knew her “healthy eating” had gone too far, and how she has reached a place of total recovery. TRIGGER: We talk about eating disorders, weight loss, and disordered eating in this episode. If you need support, or want support to help someone you know, you can contact The Butterfly Foundation on 1800 ED HOPE or 1800 33 4673. FIND OUT MORE Read Lucinda’s book All I Ever Wanted To Be Was Hot https://www.panterapress.com.au/product/all-i-ever-wanted-was-to-be-hot/ This is the podcast Lucinda mentioned where she interviewed Steph https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/searching-for-thinspiration/id1436558049?i=1000419942184 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramFroomes @frooomes on Instagram (with 3 o’s!)Join our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Last week Laura had her longest run to date in training for the New York City Marathon. In this episode she shares about the reality of what that looks like. Plus we open the Kic Mailbox and hear from you!! You share your two cents on the Body & Soul sex census, you tell us what you learned from our PMS chat, you give us a recco for more audio erotica, and you share a Sexy Slip Up story. You can get in touch with us any time (we love it!!) by messaging us on Instagram @kicpod or joining our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/ P.S we’d love your reccos on long running trails and the best almond croissants in your city! SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Things Will Calm Down Soon by Zoë Foster Blake https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Zo%C3%AB-Foster-Blake-Things-Will-Calm-Down-Soon-9781922928023 Laura: Nobody Wants This on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/watch/81591296?source=35 WE MENTIONED If you missed the episode where we talked about the Body & Soul Sex Census, you can listen here https://pod.fo/e/26986f These are the memes Laura mentioned https://www.instagram.com/p/DAkEEVvJr-o/?img_index=1 Kic UPDATE New strength for running classes are in the app now! Developed by head trainer, Danny, alongside Kic’s expert running physio, Alana, these sessions will help you strengthen all the right muscles. Whether you’re just getting started or you’re running towards your first 10km, Laura and Danny are here to help support your running journey. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Laura shares about her recent trip to a health retreat in Queensland and how it ended with the most intense panic attack of her life when she returned home to Melbourne. She shares about how her anxiety has been post-panic attack and what partners, friends and family members can do to support someone going through a panic attack. Then we discuss the issue of men’s drunk & aggressive behaviour at the football. Laura attended the AFL grand final a few weeks ago and was shocked at the behaviour and level of drinking from the group of young men sitting in front of her. Plus Steph shares about her apprehension in taking Harvey to the footy and exposing him to the same violence and behaviour. WE MENTIONED This is the cold sore cream Laura recommended https://www.chemistdiscountcentre.com.au/index.html?srsltid=AfmBOopQSRhrNvJ1kcf3g-rYg-c9xV-OQ7fLXp2MATHIc1uBAsvsRvbY#!/prod/117562/fixalip-cold-sore-lotion-8ml This is the Huberman Lab episode Laura mentioned about delaying caffeine https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/using-caffeine-to-optimize-mental-and-physical-performance SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Love Me by Monica Ali https://www.dymocks.com.au/book/love-marriage-by-monica-ali-9780349015491 Laura: The Courage To Be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi & Fumitake Koga https://www.dymocks.com.au/book/the-courage-to-be-disliked-by-ichiro-kishimi-and-fumitake-koga-9781760630492 Kic UPDATE The KICRUN Challenge starts today! Whether you’re in it for the long run or you’re just getting started, the KICRUN Challenge is made for you. Together with New Balance, run towards your goal of 3, 5, 10 or 21km over the next 8 weeks, with Laura guiding you through 3 x runs per week every step of the way. Enrolments close on Monday October 21st. If you’re new to Kic you can start a 7-day free trial at kicapp.com FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Allira Potter was never the sporty kid growing up. Like many of us, her memories of running at school were discouraging at best. But earlier this year, when she felt her mental health declining, Allira knew she needed to make a change, so she pulled on their runners and started her running journey. Allira’s first run sucked. But she stuck with it and it's changed her life. In this episode Allira shares how her running journey started, her goals starting out versus now, the impact of training with her partner, how she feels about sharing her runs on social media, not comparing herself to others, and learning that she can walk and still be a runner. Plus we start with an oracle card reading from Allira and learn more about her journey to spirituality. FOLLOW US Allira @allira.potter on InstagramKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We all know Steph loves her erotic novels but while Josh was away recently she tried out the erotic audio app Quinn for the first time and it went….well 😏 Then we discuss the trend of Gen-Z’s saying no to being bridesmaids due to the rising costs and the expectation that they’ll be involved in multiple events in the lead up to the big day. Have you said no to being a bridesmaid? Did your friendship survive either being a bridesmaid or saying no? Let us know in our Facebook group! https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/ SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Dr Billy Garvey on The Imperfects https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-billy-garvey-from-boyz-ii-men/id1476501557?i=1000670324725 Laura: Nathan Buckley on The Imperfects https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/nathan-buckley-out-of-the-woods/id1476501557?i=1000669623429 Laura: The second half of Emily In Paris season 4 https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81037371?source=35 Laura: Things Will Calm Down Soon - Zoë Foster Blake https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Zo%C3%AB-Foster-Blake-Things-Will-Calm-Down-Soon-9781922928023 Kic UPDATE Enrolments are open for the next KICRUN Challenge! Together with New Balance, run towards your goal of 3, 5, 10 or 21km. Over the next 8 weeks, Laura will guide you through 3 x runs per week, cheering you on with motivational tips to boost your running confidence. The challenge starts next Monday 7th of October. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Alexis is the host of the Do You F*ing Mind podcast, she has a Masters of Neuroscience, and you guys love her! Seriously, in a recent audience survey we asked you which guests you loved and OVERWHELMINGLY you guys said Alexis, so we brought her back on the podcast to talk about purpose and turning desperation into attraction to get what you want. In the first part of the episode we talk about purpose: what is it, how to find it, how it should feel in your body when you experience it, and how to find a purpose that serves you but also includes others. Then in the second half of the episode we talk about one of Alexis’ most popular podcast episodes ‘Turning Desperation Into Attraction’ and Alexis explains how wanting something too much could be the thing that’s pushing it away. MORE EPISODES WITH ALEXIS The secret to freedom is discipline https://pod.fo/e/2220bc Hear us on Do You F*cking Mind https://pod.fo/e/238ca6 FIND OUT MORE Check out Alexis’ new audiobook How To Chase Change https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/How-to-Chase-Change/Alexis-Fernandez-Preiksa/9781761429613 Check out Alexis’ book The Neuroscience of Self Love https://www.bigw.com.au/product/the-neuroscience-of-self-love-by-alexis-fernandez-preiksa/p/241746? Listen to Alexis’ podcast Do You F*cking Mind. We love her episode ‘258. Turning Desperation into Attraction: How to get what you REALLY want’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/258-turning-desperation-into-attraction-how-to-get/id1502954097?i=1000633738914 Laura mentioned an episode of The Imperfects with Libby Trickett. Listen here https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/libby-trickett-when-is-enough-enough/id1476501557?i=1000589981913 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramAlexis @alexispredezJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we read an article from The Cut called ‘Why Are Friendship Breakups So Brutal’ and we want to talk about it. We share our perspectives on friendship breakups, why they hurt more than romantic breakups, and ghosting friends vs trying to work on the friendship. And then we answer a question from you guys about our own friendship! You asked: “what is one thing you would wish for the other person?” We love getting questions from you guys! Every now and then we’ll put a question box on our Instagram story but you can slide into our DMs anytime. THINGS WE MENTIONED This is the article from The Cut we talked about https://www.thecut.com/article/friendship-breakups-pain-explained-psychology.html This is the Instagram post about friendship that Laura read out https://www.instagram.com/p/C_bCELwIybh/?img_index=1 This is our episode with Two Broke Chicks from earlier in the year https://pod.fo/e/24ba2d This is Laura's Vogue column about making the most of your 20's https://www.vogue.com.au/beauty/wellbeing/ask-laura-how-do-you-make-the-most-of-your-20s/news-story/144745c458e5ae0ff1f7b761612a8c65 This is Laura’s episode of The House of Wellness where she learns how to contour https://youtu.be/ItfLSGWlmRU?si=9dxh6n4cY0idh3b0&t=1843 This is Steph’s episode of House of Wellness where she learns how to do a winged eye https://youtu.be/zWGVFtT4ZHI?si=UKdIwo4CzY975a_x&t=2195 SPECIAL SHARES Steph: The Ordinary salicylic acid body serum https://theordinary.com/en-us/salicylic-acid-05-body-serum-100644.html Laura: the documentary Inside The Mind Of A Dog https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81681888 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s a very revealing episode this week! The Body & Soul Sex Census is out and it revealed some very interesting statistics…and we share ours...like the number of times women orgasm in heterosexual sex compared to men, our favourite positions, and our fantasies. Plus Laura read an article in The Good Weekend which revealed that Gen-Z are saying no to sex altogether because they’d rather have no sex than bad sex. PLUS we shared our own plumbing disaster stories last week and this week we hear from you. If you’ve ever had a toilet visit not go to plan...you’re not alone! SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Grace Tame on The Imperfects https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/grace-tame-sexy-time-scissoring-autism/id1476501557?i=1000667984788 Laura: Michelle Andrews’ new podcast Glass https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/glass/id1764447466 Kic UPDATE You guys are LOVING our latest STAX. collection! Check out all the pieces from XXS to 4XL in the iconic Premium Seamless fabric here: https://stax.com.au/collections/kic-x-stax-v2 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Matilda Robertson is the co-owner of activewear brand STAX. To celebrate the launch of our second collection with STAX. (which is live today!) we sat down with Matilda to learn more about her story, including meeting and falling in love with STAX. founder (and her now husband) Don, what she brings to the business, what working in recruitment taught her about building relationships, and what the latest Kic collection affirmation ‘I Can And I Will’ means to her. Shop the collection here: https://stax.com.au/collections/kic-x-stax-v2 To celebrate the collection we’re hosting an event in Melbourne on Saturday 21st September including a panel chat with Steph, Laura, Don and Matilda, plus an empowering workshop. Sign up HERE: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kic-x-stax-i-can-and-i-will-wellness-workshop-tickets-1007225246827?aff=oddtdtcreator FOLLOW US Matilda @matilda_murray_ on Instagram and @staxofficial_ on InstagramKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What if the worst case scenario happened? What if you set a goal, threw everything at it, told the world for years that you were going to achieve it…and then you didn’t? Australian boxer, Harry Garside, spent years telling the world (and himself) that he would win a gold medal at the Paris Olympics. He came home without the gold medal, but in the 20 years he spent trying to achieve his goal, he became friends with himself, which to Harry is more valuable than any medal. Trigger: this episode mentions suicide & suicidal ideation. If you, or someone you know is struggling, Lifeline is available 24 hours a day on 13 11 14. In this episode Harry sits down with Steph & Laura to debrief how he is feeling post-Olympics, the importance of feeling the failure, his purpose, what his next goal is, and what he is learning from putting himself through an uncomfortable challenge every month for the past five years. FIND OUT MORE Read Harry’s book ‘The Good Fight’ https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Good-Fight/Harry-Garside/9781761425547 We had Harry on the podcast in 2023. The episode is called ‘Challenging and bettering yourself, with Harry Garside’ and you can listen here https://pod.fo/e/224088 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramHarry @harry_garside on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokHarry Garside @harry_garside on InstagramKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we call on relationship coach and friend of the KICPOD, Megan Luscombe, to help answer one of your questions: “I looked through my partner’s phone and saw intimate photos of him and his ex. What should I do?” Megan unpacks the nuances of looking through a partner’s phone and offers advice for anyone who’s snooped and found something they didn’t want to see. Then we switch gears as Steph and Laura share some of their plumbing disaster stories (IYKYK 💩). Would you be Steph or Laura in this situation!? SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the Four Part Breath meditation on the Kic app https://links.keepitcleaner.com.au/ffTZjlgmyMb Laura: All Fours - Miranda July https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Miranda-July-All-Fours-9781838853457 Kic UPDATE We have a brand new collection with STAX.!! The affirmation behind this collection is “I Can And I Will”. The collection is officially live at 9AM (AEST) on Friday September 13th but you can get early access by signing up HERE: https://stax.com.au/pages/vip and we’ll email you a link on Thursday September 12th to shop the collection for a limited time To celebrate the launch, we’re hosting an event in Melbourne on Saturday 21st September including a panel chat with Steph, Laura, and the STAX. founders, Don and Til, plus an empowering workshop. Sign up HERE: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kic-x-stax-i-can-and-i-will-wellness-workshop-tickets-1007225246827?aff=oddtdtcreator FOLLOW US Megan @meganluscombe_KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Talking in your sleep, Ricezempic, and what was growing out of Steph’s nose!? If you’ve been following Steph on social over the last couple of weeks, you’ll know she’s been on quite the skin journey! This week she shares what she squeezed out of two pimples on her nose. Then we ask - do you have a responsibility to be a good sleeping partner? Laura reveals what she’s been waking Dalton up with in the middle of the night and we hear your stories of what your partner has done in their sleep. And finally - another day, another TikTok diet trend. Today it's Ricezempic. We talk through the red flags that you can ask yourself the next time you see some fishy nutrition advice online. Trigger: we do talk about disordered eating in this episode. If you need support you can contact The Butterfly Foundation from 8am - midnight AEST on 1800 33 4673. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the Imperfects episode with Jack Steele https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/jack-steele-socials-anxiety/id1476501557?i=1000665805609 Steph: A Million Little Things (extra special!) https://www.stan.com.au/watch/a-million-little-things Laura: Emily In Paris https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81037371?source=35 Kic UPDATE Our Express Lift Challenge starts today! Designed for people who have no idea WTF to do in the gym, you can choose from 1-5 workouts per week, 20-30 minute workouts, and gain confidence using gym equipment. Complete our Express Lift Challenge and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win 1 of 3 x $500 vouchers to use at any gym of your choice THE EPISODES WITH LIV WE MENTIONED If you want to hear our episodes with our Kic dietitian, Liv Morrison, you can search for the following episodes in your podcast app Combatting disordered eating & building positive relationships with food (from October 2021) Why carbs are your BFF & how to fuel your body pre and post workout (from October 2021) Gut health, overcoming guilt & building a positive relationship with food (from February 2022) FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are you a Perfectionist? An Overachiever? A People Pleaser? Every woman will see themselves in at least one of the 13 archetypes that Megan Dalla-Camina has identified. Megan is a women’s leadership and empowerment expert. Her Women Rising Program has empowered over 7,500 women in 63 countries and her new book ‘Women Rising: The forces that hold us back, the tools to help us rise’ reveals the internal and external forces impacting how women lead and succeed. We loved Megan’s chapter on the 13 archetypes of the inner critic so we invited her on the KICPOD to unpack what an archetype is, find out how to identify our own archetypes, and find out how we can stop letting our inner critic win, because the more you know about your archetype, the more power you have to transform it into something that works for you, rather than holds you back. FIND OUT MORE ABOUT MEGAN Read Megan’s book ‘Women Rising’ https://www.amazon.com.au/Women-Rising-Forces-Back-Tools/dp/139424861X Find out more about Megan’s program ‘Women Rising’ https://megandallacamina.com/women-rising/ Follow Megan on Instagram @megandallacamina on Instagram LOVED THIS EPISODE AND WANT MORE? We think you'll like the episodes we did with our coach Janey Martino Search 'How to learn to trust yourself' or listen here https://pod.fo/e/250d12 Search 'How to stop taking things personally' or listen here https://pod.fo/e/251950 FOLLOW US Follow KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Follow Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokFollow Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokFind out more about Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Laura shares her (and Dalton’s) latest embarrassing moment involving a public toilet and a very upset tummy. And we read an article in The Cut called ‘How 10 Women Found Out They Were Cheated On’ and we wanted to share our thoughts on cheating. Is cheating ever okay? What makes it a deal breaker in a relationship? And Steph shares her experience of being cheated on in a past relationship. PLUS! Guess how many days it’s been since Laura washed her hair??? SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the TV series A Million Little Things (trigger warning for suicide) https://www.stan.com.au/watch/a-million-little-things Laura: the song ‘Good Luck, Babe’ by Chappell Roan https://open.spotify.com/track/0WbMK4wrZ1wFSty9F7FCgu?autoplay=true Laura: an ANTI Special Share for the latest season of The Kardashians Kic UPDATE Our 8-week Express Lift Challenge is designed for anyone who feels intimidated or lost in the gym. Developed by Kic’s head trainer, Danny and guided by your hype girl, Steph - it’s just like having a PT in your pocket. Get ready to feel strong and supported when you step in with a plan. This challenge is made for anyone who: wants to feel comfortable using gym equipment, has 20-30 minutes to workout, wants the flexibility of choosing 1-5 sessions per week, and is looking for PT guidance without the exxy fees. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What have you pretended to like for a crush? This week Producer Lindsey was reminded of a time when she would get up early to watch the Socceroos because she knew the boys at school would be talking about it. We KNEW we couldn't be the only ones who did embarrassing things for crushes so we asked you: what’s the most embarrassing thing you’ve pretended to like for a crush? You have our permission to stop pretending you like giving head, beer, golf and camping and just be who you are! AND Laura heard Mel Robbins talk about the ‘Let Them Theory’ and she wants to share it. You can’t control how other people behave, you can only control how you respond, so let them! Watch Mel's video https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/reel/CsLvs-voVTO/ Listen to the episode of Mel's podcast about it https://podcasts.apple.com/mz/podcast/the-let-them-theory-a-life-changing-mindset-hack/id1646101002?i=1000614815209 SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the movie ‘Mud’ https://www.stan.com.au/watch/mud-2012 Laura: having a wind down routine where you put your phone away before bed Kic UPDATE We have two special KICRUN Clubs coming up in Melbourne on Saturday 24th August and in Sydney on Saturday 31st August. The Ordinary is joining us at the KICRUN Club with ingredient-first skincare, now for your body including a Niacinamide 5% Face & Body Emulsion which is available at Sephora. There will be free coffee, the chance to take away products from the new range and of course a group run and walk. Spots are limited so register here! Register for Sydney https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/974174872267?aff=oddtdtcreator and Melbourne: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/965571248597?aff=oddtdtcreator FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It doesn’t matter where in your running journey you are, we think you’ll love this chat! Phoebe and Anna are Cheeky Run Club: a social running podcast and community for your everyday amateur runner. Since launching their podcast in January, Phoebe and Anna have covered topics like sports bras, nutrition, running burnout, prepping for races, and so much more. We’ve loved watching them grow a community of like-minded runners so we asked them to come in and share some of their running wisdom. In this episode, Phoebe and Anna chat through their individual running journeys, what a typical week of training looks like, how they deal with injuries both physically and mentally, the importance of running slow, and finding your running 'why'. START RUNNING If this episode has left you feeling like you want to start your own running journey, you can try Kic (including the KICRUN program) for free for one month. Use code 'KICRUN' when you sign up for a monthly subscription at kicapp.com (code must be entered on the website) FOLLOW US Follow Cheeky Run Club @cheekyrunclub on InstagramListen to Cheeky Run Club https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/cheeky-run-club/id1726781548 Follow KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Follow Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokFollow Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokFind out more about Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's time for another rant from Laura! On a recent Instagram video calling out internalised misogyny, someone accused Laura of “playing the gender card” and today she shares her feelings about it. TLDR: if you’ve never experienced discrimination, you can’t tell people who have been discriminated against that it doesn’t exist. PLUS the Olympics are over and we miss it already! We look back at some of our highlights outside of the gold medal moments. Check out the bibliography below for all the videos we mentioned. THINGS WE MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE Equality at the Olympics https://www.instagram.com/p/C-GENOUTAuD/ Ilona Maher’s carbs video https://www.instagram.com/p/C94Ia4Cgtt9/?hl=en Ilona Maher’s body type video https://www.instagram.com/p/C94f_r2gDU0/?hl=en Jess Fox’s mum https://www.instagram.com/p/C9-blHpt0sQ/ Harry Garside the day after his Olympic fight https://www.instagram.com/p/C-Ah1opvtj2/ Laura’s rant video https://www.instagram.com/laura.henshaw/ SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the Dineamic Chicken Pesto Pasta https://www.dineamic.com.au/products/pesto-chicken-with-casarecce-pasta-ready-meal Laura: the Dineamic Baked Chicken Enchilada https://www.dineamic.com.au/products/enchilada-ready-meal FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Laura has some dream come true news…she’s been invited to run the New York City Marathon in November!! Find out how Laura has worked on her mindset in order to believe she’s ready to run a marathon…and how rebuilding her relationship with food and exercise has made it all possible. Then we invite one of Steph’s oldest friends, Hayley, on the podcast to share an embarrassing story from Steph’s childhood involving a crush, a school disco, and one of them being sat down and told off by a teacher. SPECIAL SHARES Steph & Laura: Inside Out 2 (see it in a cinema!) Kic UPDATE Kic Concierge is the answer to all your Pilates needs! Whether you’re a Pilates queen or you’re entering a new era - complete our Concierge quiz and we’ll deliver a personalised Pilates pack, straight to your inbox. Find your match at kicapp.com/concierge, plus you’ll unlock 50% off your first month with Kic. Available now! AND we’ve just dropped Kika's brand new Build and Burn Series into the app. It's a 7-step series packed with the movements you know and love to help you turn your favourite flows into a routine. That's alongside over 200+ on-demand Pilates Masterclasses + our Pilates beginner series and programs! FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 2023 we had the pleasure of speaking with Australian boxer Harry Garside. We talked about masculinity, success, proving himself, thinking he's not good enough, and why he deliberately puts himself in situations that make him uncomfortable. We've loved watching Harry at the Paris Olympics and it reminded us of how much we loved this chat with him. We hope you love it too <3 This is the video from Harry that we mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/p/C-Ah1opvtj2/ FOLLOW US Harry @harry_garside on InstagramKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You asked…we answered. We haven’t done an ask-us-anything in a long time, so we asked you for your questions and you didn’t hold back! How would you describe your sex life in one word? Steph, do you plan to have more kids? What do you regret? How do you feel about a few MCG’s worth of people following you online? And Laura…have you started washing your bra more often? Let us know what you think of this style of episode! Our DMs are always open on Instagram @kicpod or you can join the KICPOD Facebook group And if you feel like watching this episode, you can!! It's on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/8FvvtMCG9kE This episode of KICPOD is sponsored by Maltesers. LINKSCheck out Maltesers’ Official Website https://www.maltesers.com.au/ Follow @maltesers_aus on Instagram FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Laura has a moment of self-reflection as she reveals the savage things she said to Dalton while PMS-ing and Steph shares how PMS hits her now that she’s had her IUD removed. PLUS! We want your sexy slip up stories! We’ve told you about the time Steph’s mum found her sexy nurse outfit, and when Laura’s cleaner discovered her vibrator…but this week Steph shares the story of her one and only one night stand. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the episode of The Imperfects ‘Zan Rowe - If I Had A Year To Live’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/zan-rowe-if-i-had-a-year-to-live/id1476501557?i=1000662221090 Laura: the episode of Shameless ‘Zara's 30 life lessons at 30’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/zaras-30-life-lessons-at-30/id1352875216?i=1000630367205 Kic UPDATE Introducing…Kic Concierge…the answer to all your Pilates needs! We’ve never done this before, but we’ve released our very own phone number so you can call or text us and we’ll help you find your flow. Our number is 0485 875 132. Give us a buzz - we’ll be answering your calls this week!! FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ash Paraskevas had kissed girls long before she ever had sex with a woman. She would make out with girls in high school and tell herself it was something she was doing for attention. But after seven years in a heterosexual relationship, Ash could no longer ignore her feelings towards women. As scary as it was to leave her long-term relationship, she knew she had to do it if she was ever going to live authentically as a lesbian. In part two of our conversation, Ash shares how it felt to leave the safe space of her relationship, and how she started to explore her feelings with women, including her first time, how she learned to have sex with women, and how she learned to accept herself as a lesbian. If you missed part one of our conversation, catch up here: https://pod.fo/e/23735c FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokAsh Paraskevas @ashparaskevas on InstagramKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we answer your D&M about how to decline an invite to an overseas wedding. You said: “I don’t know how to handle telling my best friend that I may not be at her wedding.” We share our thoughts on overseas weddings and the expectations placed on guests to attend - often at large financial expense. Plus we asked you to spill your celebrity run in stories! Usain Bolt, Princess Mary, and even…us!? SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the podcast 'Pop Culture Parenting' with Dr Billy Garvey and Nick McCormack https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/pop-culture-parenting/id1600660063 Steph: the book 'Ten things I wish you knew about your child's mental health' by Dr Billy Garvey https://www.penguin.com.au/books/ten-things-i-wish-you-knew-about-your-childs-mental-health-9781761345838 Laura: no special share this week, sorry!! FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One in six people with vulvas reported feeling anxious or embarrassed about the way their labia looks. The recently published Labia Diversity Report from Women’s Health Victoria surveyed 1,030 women and people with labia aged between 18-50 about how they feel about their labia. They found 31% of those surveyed associated their labia with words like ‘weird’, ‘disgusting’ or ‘ugly’ and one in four Gen-Z were anxious about the way their labia looked. In this special bonus episode of KICPOD, Laura sits down with Ellie Sedgwick, from Comfortable In My Skin, a platform where she shares photos and stories of the enormous diversity of labias that exist. Laura and Ellie discuss how Ellie went from contemplating a labiaplasty to taking photos of labia for a living, where the pressure to have a perfect labia comes from, and why no one needs to be ashamed of how their labia looks. FIND OUT MORE Read the report ‘Real bodies: understanding and celebrating labia diversity’ here https://whv.org.au/resources/whv-publications/real-bodies-understanding-and-celebrating-labia-diversity Follow Ellie on Instagram @comfortableinmyskin_ Check out the vulva photo gallery here on Ellie's website https://www.comfortableinmyskin.com.au/ FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In a recent episode of The Kardashians, Kylie Jenner broke down in tears over comments she received about the way she looks. In the episode she said "people have been talking about my looks since I was 12, 13…after 10-plus years of hearing about (my looks), it just gets exhausting." We watched it and we want to share our thoughts. Plus Laura has been spending time on Facebook Marketplace since moving house which made us think that you guys must have some wild Marketplace stories…and you proved us right! SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the song ‘you look like you love me’ by Ella Langley (feat. Riley Green) https://open.spotify.com/track/0y5Ex8oQ8zCH5TQxHUy1Eo?autoplay=true Laura: A Family Affair on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81361154?source=35 Kic UPDATE We’ve teamed up with frank green to release our very own empowering Kic collection!! Stay hydrated with our reusable water bottle, grab your morning coffee in our sustainable cup or sip your smoothie on the go. With three affirmations: I am strong. I am capable and I am confident in three exclusive colours, aqua, flamingo and cherry. It’s your daily reminder that you’ve got this. Available 9am Thursday 18th July online at frank green or in rebel stores across Australia. Plus…. pre-sale starts tomorrow (Tuesday 16th) at 9am for all Kic subscribers. Keep an eye out on your inbox where we’ll send you an exclusive link to shop the pre-sale! FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the third part of our three-episode special about having difficult conversations, we invite our coach Janey Martino back into the studio to talk through making assumptions and not taking things personally. We’ve personally gone through our own experience of assuming we know what the other person is thinking and how they will react to something…without actually talking to them about it. In this episode, Janey unpacks what assumptions are, how they impact us, how they can be holding us back in our jobs and relationships, how we can stop making them when we start paying attention to them, and how all of this helps to stop us taking things personally. If you missed part one and two of this special, we'd recommend you scroll back in your feed and listen. Part one: the most challenging conversation we've ever had to have https://pod.fo/e/24ff9b Part two: learning to trust ourselves with our coach Janey Martino https://pod.fo/e/250d12 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokCheck out Janey’s coaching business ‘The Kintsugi Way’ https://kintsugiway.co/Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Janey Martino is a business founder, board director, advisor, investor and coach. She’s an advisor for Kic and our personal coach. Janey’s coaching has helped us in our confidence and leadership as individuals, and she recently helped us to faciliate the most challenging conversation we've ever had as friends. In the second part of this special three-part series, we bring Janey into the studio to share her wisdom. First up: confidence. What is confidence? How can low confidence impact the way you show up for yourself and others? Why do we lose confidence and how do we rebuild it? Plus what is mastery and what role does it have in confidence? FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokCheck out Janey’s coaching business ‘The Kintsugi Way’ https://kintsugiway.co/ Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we check in on our friendship. In case you missed it, an article came out a few weeks ago claiming there was a “rift” in our friendship. There’s not! But we have been having some deep conversations and this week we want to talk about it. Plus we preview our Wednesday (and bonus!) Friday episodes with our coach Janey Martino who has made these conversations possible. We talk about the episode of Will & Woody's podcast 'Share My Mood' with Laura. You can listen to it here: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/share-my-mood-laura-henshaw/id1566497439?i=1000656872884 SPECIAL SHARES Steph: the song Please, Please, Please by Sabrina Carpenter https://open.spotify.com/track/5N3hjp1WNayUPZrA8kJmJP Laura: updating your credit card details in your parking app! And the Kic Protein Blondie Mug Cake https://links.keepitcleaner.com.au/ryVUngWQUKb FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week it’s Laura’s turn to be thrown under the bus! We searched far and wide for someone in Laura’s life who could tell an embarrassing story about her and this week we finally got one - her oldest friend Bec, who shared a story of the time Laura revealed what she household item she used to get…intimate with. Plus we listened to an episode of Shameless talking about the trend of influencers quitting full time content creation and we want to share our own perspectives. The Shameless episode was ‘The 9-5 is officially in’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-9-5-is-officially-in/id1352875216?i=1000657129181 SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Chessie King on the podcast ‘Should I Delete That?’ https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/chessie-king-i-chose-to-save-my-marriage/id1602088590?i=1000658389572 Laura: Arthur The King on Amazon Prime https://www.primevideo.com/dp/amzn1.dv.gti.377e3b69-c44f-43ee-b0a8-dcb54eec1a31? Kic UPDATE Our mid-year sale ends tonight! It’s your last chance to save up to 40% and unlock everything Kic has to offer from just $1.90/week. Sign up here https://kicapp.com/midyear/ FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sal & Al met in their office kitchen, fell in friendship love, and six months later they had matching tattoos. In the 7 years that have followed, they’ve gone through romantic and friendship break ups, work, travel, starting a podcast, building a business and writing a book together, so they’re pretty much experts on friendship at this point. One of the most common questions we get from you is how to make friends as an adult, so we asked Sal & Al how they do it. How do you take a friendship from the office to the real world? How long do you need to hold on to a high school friendship for? And how do you approach a conversation with a friend without it turning into a conflict? If you’ve never listened to Two Broke Chicks before we recommend you start with the episode ‘23+ Life Lessons From 2023’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/23-life-lessons-from-2023/id1587075307?i=1000638476125 Sal & Al have written a book! It’s Finding Your People: The Ultimate Guide to Friendship https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Alexandra-Hourigan-and-Sally-McMullen-Finding-Your-People-9781761470424 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokTwo Broke Chicks @twobrokechicks on Instagram Al @alexhourigan on InstagramSal @sllymcmlln on InstagramKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s an intimate one today! In a recent episode of The Kardashians, Khloe made a comment about people having hair down there and Laura wants to talk about it. Does laser hurt more than waxing? Do you remove hair from your butt? And Steph shares the time she tried out her waxing skills on Josh. Then we check in on the goals we set ourselves at the start of the year. How are we going? What changes are we going to make for the second half of the year? SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Lucy Reeves on Sydney Cassidy’s podcast ‘GYM GIRLS LOCKER ROOM’ https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/lucy-reeves-on-battling-body-trends-coping-with-grief/id1732994473?i=1000658552969 Laura: Brodie Grundy on the podcast ‘Dyl & Friends’ https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dyl-friends-242-brodie-grundy-doubling-down-on-your/id1417124389?i=1000658374359 The Kic meditation Laura mentioned is Diaphragmatic Breathing with Meg https://links.keepitcleaner.com.au/f7GJ3C2kpKb Listen to the episode we recorded with Sydney Cassidy when we were in the UK last year https://pod.fo/e/222878 Kic UPDATE Our mid-year challenge starts today! This challenge is here to help you Kic the mid-year slump. Choose from Pilates or strength and then beginner or advanced. It’s not about completely overhauling your life, it’s your reminder that even the smallest movements can have a positive impact on your body, mind and motivation. Save up to 40% off Kic and get Kic for as little as $1.90 a week. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you’re going away by yourself, do you take the family toothpaste or do you buy a spare toothpaste and leave the family toothpaste at home? Steph and Laura have been doing a lot of traveling recently and this week we find out who buys a spare and who takes the family toothpaste (leaving their partner without). Plus we always suggest calling 1800 RESPECT if you or someone you know is experiencing violence…but what actually happens when you call? Who do you talk to, what will they ask, is it recorded, and do the police get involved? To answer these questions we speak to a spokesperson from the helpline to find out who’s on the other end of a call. 1800RESPECT can be contacted by call, text, online chat or video call. Call 1800 737 732, text 0458 737 732, online chat 24/7 or video call Monday to Friday 9am-5pm AEST (except national public holidays) – no appointment needed. Then we hear from you about the dorky things you did when you were younger. If you also kissed yourself in the mirror and made song lyrics your Facebook status…well same. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: The Spotify playlist ‘So Fresh 2000 - 2017’ https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3GSrjv74GAtmfNz6HU109e Laura: The Family Next Door by Sally Hepworth https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-family-next-door-sally-hepworth/book/9781760988036.html Kic UPDATE Feeling mid? Move from meh to (a bit more) motivated with up to 40% off Kic! Everyone we talk to is feeling pretty meh right not, so we thought we’d lean into this for our mid year challenge. It’s not about going hard, it’s about taking small, sustainable steps to feel a little less ‘mid’. You can choose from Pilates or strength, and then we have two levels - mid or motivated. The challenge starts on June 24th and the sale ends on June 30th. FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ashani Dante and Fi Sanford are the Founder and CEO of The Flourish Journey, an organisation committed to supporting teenage girls to become empowered, resilient and connected adults. They help young girls to cultivate their own self-awareness and self-confidence, but this doesn’t mean that Ashani & Fi feel confident at all times. In this episode Ashani & Fi share their own self-confidence journeys and how self-doubt can still creep in to their lives. They discuss what self-confidence looks and feels like, tools to cultivate your own self-confidence, self-confidence at different life stages, and why women have resilience built in. Plus Steph & Laura share their own experiences with confidence and questioning themselves. FIND OUT MORE The Flourish Journey @theflourishjourney_ on InstagramAshani @ashanidante on InstagramFi @fiona.sanford on InstagramThe Flourish Journey https://www.theflourishjourney.org/ Ashani has just launched The Fearless Feminine, taking women between 20-35 on a journey of self exploration and empowerment www.ashanidante.com FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steph’s been seeing a therapist for the past few months and in today’s episode she shares how it’s been going, what she’s learned from it, and she and Laura reflect on how valuable it’s been for both of them to speak to someone unbiased who you can be totally truthful with. Then Laura reflects on completing the Kic Run 10 - 21km program and completing her first half marathon in a few years, including overcoming injury, showing up for every rehab session, and fuelling her workouts, rather than using running to lose weight. Plus Laura’s dryer saga continues! SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Bridgerton on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80232398?source=35 Laura: Your Place Or Mine on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81045831?source=35 FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For the final episode of the miniseries Laura sits down with her husband Dalton. How does he feel about Laura doing this miniseries? What are his own fears around having children? Is it selfish if they never have children? And finally…do Laura & Dalton want kids? Then we hear from you about what the series has taught you. And Laura reflects on what she’s learned from creating the miniseries. FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sydney Fashion Week was a few weeks ago and it raised important conversations about who gets invited, who gets photographed, and how the event leaves people feeling afterwards, so this week we reflect on our own experiences of attending Melbourne and Sydney Fashion Weeks both as guests and walking in shows. Then we take a trip down memory lane to reflect on some of the dorky and rebellious things we did when were teenagers, like wearing rainbow toe socks but ONLY on Thursdays (Steph) and creating a shrine of empty Vodka Cruiser bottles (Laura). SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Anyone But You https://www.primevideo.com/dp/amzn1.dv.gti.2143b543-ee98-479b-8c01-3e5e4da4aa6d? Laura: A quote from Steven Bartlett “take nothing personally” https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stevenbartlett-123_everyone-needs-to-understand-this-when-activity-7149323742911893504-xEMa/ FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The decision to have children is a personal one but if you’re in a relationship, the decision is one that you can’t make on your own. So what do you do if you find yourself in a situation where your partner wants kids but you’re not ready…or you want kids and your partner isn’t ready? Or what if you want children…but you don’t have anyone to have them with? In this episode Laura speaks with a KICPOD community member Madi who asked, “what if all the good partners are taken?” Then Laura sits down with relationship coach Megan Luscombe to find out how she helps couples work through this decision. What happens in a relationship when one partner doesn’t want children and has them? Or when one partner does want children and doesn’t have them? Do couples with different desires have to break up? How do you distinguish your wants from your partners’ within a long term relationship? And if you are single and dating with the intention of finding a relationship…how soon do you bring it up? Then you share your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FIND OUT MORE Follow Megan https://www.instagram.com/meganluscombe_/ Work with Megan https://www.meganluscombe.com.au/ Listen to previous KICPOD episodes with Megan My partner is perfect...why do I have doubts? Relationship coach Megan Luscombe is back to answer your questions https://pod.fo/e/22c46d Should I break up with them? Relationship coach Megan Luscombe answers your questions https://pod.fo/e/228bb0 FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For many women in their 20’s and 30’s, the tick of the biological clock can be deafening. We’re told our fertility falls off a cliff at 35 years old, so if we want children, we’d better get moving. When you add on messaging around the desire to be a “young” mum to keep up with your children, this only adds to the pressure that many women feel to make a decision that they don’t feel ready to make. But what if women’s fertility didn’t fall off a cliff at 35? What if it was a gradual decline rather than a sharp cliff? And what if we had role models of women having children later in their life to see that it’s not only possible, but can be just as good (and maybe even better!) than having children younger. In this episode Laura speaks with two women at different stages in their motherhood journey. Leonie had her first child at 30 years old and wishes she’d waited longer. Sharyn had her first child at 43 years old and has no trouble keeping up with him. Laura also speaks with Dr Karin Hammarberg, Senior Research Fellow in the Monash University School of Public Health, about the myth that women’s fertility falls off a cliff at 35. Then you share your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FIND OUT MORE Read these articles from Karin ‘Women are often told their fertility ‘falls off a cliff’ at 35, but is that right?’ https://theconversation.com/women-are-often-told-their-fertility-falls-off-a-cliff-at-35-but-is-that-right-189978 ‘Don’t believe the hype. ‘Egg timer’ tests can’t reliably predict your chance of conceiving or menopause timing’ https://theconversation.com/dont-believe-the-hype-egg-timer-tests-cant-reliably-predict-your-chance-of-conceiving-or-menopause-timing-207008 FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It’s a mixed bag this week! Steph has a raspy voice (the sick kind…not the sexy kind) and Laura has a story about a dryer gone wrong and she wants to know what you would do if you were in the same situation. Then Steph shares the decision she recently made to get her IUD removed. And we call relationship coach (and friend of the podcast) Megan Luscombe to ask for her advice on the question: “how do I start a conversation with my partner that I don’t want to have?” SPECIAL SHARES Steph: The Idea Of You on Amazon Prime https://www.primevideo.com/dp/0NRT15S2XG06SG5HBV5NQAW3E3? Steph: 'Mad About You' podcast with Jadé Tunchy and Lachie Brycki https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mad-about-you/id1744842826 Laura: Promising Young Woman on Stan (trigger warning: the film portrays sexual assault) https://www.stan.com.au/watch/promising-young-woman-2020? FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The most common fear we heard from you while planning this series, was what children would do to your career. Progression, relevancy, loss of superannuation, loss of identity, and comments like "why would you have kids if you're going to go back to work," all contribute to women making the decision to have children. And with increased rates of homelessness among women in Australia, and women retiring with 28% less superannuation than men, these fears are not baseless. But having children doesn’t have to end or derail your career. Children could even help your career. In this episode Laura speaks with two women on different sides of the career & motherhood journey. Founder & coach Janey Martino had three children under 3 in her early 30’s while her career was on a high. She continued working and now that her children are teenagers, she is able to role model to them what working parenthood looks like. Britt Austin loves her career in sports marketing so she created a plan that would help her return to work four months after giving birth to her first baby in April. Then you share your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FIND OUT MORE Check out Janey’s coaching business ‘The Kintsugi Way’ https://kintsugiway.co/ Read KPMG’s report ‘The Gender Superannuation Gap’ from 2021 which states “The median superannuation balance for men aged 60‑64 years is $204,107 whereas for women in the same age group it is $146,900, a gap of 28 per cent.” https://assets.kpmg.com/content/dam/kpmg/au/pdf/2021/addressing-gender-superannuation-gap.pdf Find out more about the increase in homelessness for women in the ABS Estimating Homelessness Census from 2021 which found that of those experiencing homelessness in Australia in 2021, 44.1% were female, an increase of 10.1% from 2016, compared to a 1.6% increase for men in the same period https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/housing/estimating-homelessness-census/latest-release FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you're talking to people about the decision to have children it’s likely you’ve heard a version of this - “parenting is really hard so if you’re not 100% sure that you want children…don’t do it”. This episode is here to challenge that idea. The reasons people say not to have children are very convincing - you’ll never sleep again, your relationship will never be the same, you’ll never have sex again, you’ll lose your weekends. Basically your life as you know it will be over. But it's also the best decision some people ever make. In this episode Laura speaks with three women who didn’t feel an innate calling to be mothers, but now that they have children, they wouldn’t have it any other way. Rebecca was adamant she didn’t want children until she hit her 30’s and a death in the family made her reconsider. Alyssa’s pregnancy took her and her partner by surprise. And Melanie faced more hurdles than most conceiving her two children. Then you share your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Laura came in with a rant this week! So the next time you think about commenting “stay in your lane”...think again. And one of you asked a tricky question about splitting the bill when you go out for dinner. You asked: “Is it stingy to ask to not to pay for alcohol I haven’t drunk it? So Laura & Steph take it to the Kic Court to decide! Do you agree? How do you navigate this in your friendship group? Have your say in the KICPOD Facebook group. SPECIAL SHARES Steph: Rebel Wilson on The Diary of a CEO podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/rebel-wilson-i-experimented-with-ozempic-childhood/id1291423644?i=1000654635382 Laura: The Idea Of You (Anne Hathaway’s new movie) on Amazon Prime https://www.primevideo.com/dp/amzn1.dv.gti.918b5f07-0744-4ada-ab44-979c14087b2b? Check out Em Ruscian's review of the film https://www.instagram.com/p/C6s5ZjBv31h/ Kic UPDATE We’ve partnered with Dineamic!! Inspired by your favourite Kic recipes, our ready made meals are packed with the same flavour, quality and wholesome ingredients you know and love. It’s feel-good food, made for you. Meals include: Ginger Lime Fish Curry with Broccoli & Brown Rice, Free Range Tuscan Chicken with Broccoli & Pasta, Free Range Baked Chicken Enchilada with Tortillas, Free Range Chicken Pesto with Casarecce Pasta, Free Range Moroccan Chicken with Turmeric Rice & Currants, Cashew Satay Udon Bowl with Tofu. Order online now here: https://www.dineamic.com.au/pages/kic (and Hack…sign up to Dineamic’s newsletter and you’ll get $25 of your first order!) FOLLOW US KICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Steph Claire Smith @stephclairesmith on Instagram & @steph_claire_smith on TikTokLaura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Whether it’s biological, circumstantial, financial, environmental, a result of trauma, or simply because you don’t want to, the reasons why people decide to be childfree are as diverse as the reasons why people decide to be parents. For many people, the decision to be childfree is met with comments like “you’ll change your mind,” or “you won’t know real love until you have a child,” or “what if you regret it?”. And with so few childfree role models showing us what a childfree life could look like, these responses can be hard to deny. In this episode, Laura speaks with three childfree women. Danni Duncan is a New Zealand based childfree content creator who has dedicated her life to showing people that a childfree life is not only possible, but can be totally fulfilling and empowering. Amelia is a member of our KICPOD community who made the decision not to have children based on her own childhood. And finally, Karen made the decision to be childfree despite having the desire to be a parent. Now she’s in her 50’s she is so happy with the decision she made. Then we hear your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FIND OUT MORE Follow Danni on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/danni___duncan/ Check out We Are Childfree https://wearechildfree.com/ FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You meet someone, you get married, you have children. Right? That’s been the status quo for so long that it can be hard to imagine an alternative. For so many people who don’t feel called to be a parent, that path doesn’t feel right. But if you’ve grown up in a world where everyone you know, and everyone you follow, and every character in every movie and every TV show is getting married and having children, how do you distinguish what you want versus what society wants you to want? And if you do decide to have children…does your whole purpose have to switch to motherhood? To help answer these questions Laura speaks with parenthood clarity mentor Ann Davidman. Ann and Denise L. Carlini wrote the book ‘Motherhood - Is It For Me?’ and Ann runs an online Motherhood Clarity Course and Fatherhood Clarity Course for people struggling with indecision. Laura asks Ann: why do we feel shame over not knowing if we want to have children? What is the difference between our desire for children vs our decision to have children? Can we have more than one purpose in life? And most importantly…how do we start to figure all of this out? Then you share your thoughts on the topic ❤️ FIND OUT MORE Read ‘Motherhood - Is It For Me?’ https://www.motherhoodisitforme.com/booksCheck out the Motherhood Clarity Course https://www.motherhoodisitforme.com/motherhoodclaritycourseAnd the Fatherhood Clarity Course https://www.motherhoodisitforme.com/fatherhood-clarity-course Follow Ann on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/anndavidman/ FOLLOW US Laura Henshaw @laura.henshaw on Instagram & @laura.henshaw on TiktokKICPOD @kicpod on InstagramJoin our closed KICPOD Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/630561419185145/Join Kic @kic.app on Instagram & @kic on TikTok and kicapp.com or download the app from the App Store and Google Play StoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.