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Price Optimization in SaaS with Nikhil Kotcharlakota

Nikhil Kotcharlakota is a civil engineer by profession. He worked for Electrolux for eight years where he was head of pricing for almost two years. Currently, he is a co-founder of PriceOps, a company that aims to provide an all-in-one pricing solution for SaaS companies. In this episode, Nikhil talks about how his experience at Electrolux changed the way he looked at pricing. He also discusses about his company, PriceOps, and how they aim to provide a complete, optimized pricing solution to SaaS companies using different pricing models. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn how usage data can be utilized to optimize billing and pricing Discover the possibility of SaaS companies effectively using outcome-based pricing models Learn the difference between per-user model and per active user model and when to use them "Having the focus on price and getting value out of what you're offering is a very important thing." – Nikhil Kotcharlakota Topics Covered: 01:30 – How Nikhil got into pricing 03:01 – The work that Nikhil's company, PriceOps does 05:59 – How PriceOps plans to utilize usage data for billing and pricing 07:05 – PriceOps' biggest challenge: using outcome-based pricing model for SaaS companies 11:19 – The other pricing models that PriceOps is eyeing besides usage-based and outcome-based 12:24 – How PriceOps aims to recommend whether to use per-user model or per active user model 15:12 – What Nikhil learned as he shifted from traditional pricing to subscription-based pricing 18:38 – Why Nikhil loves pricing operations 20:17 – Without execution, pricing strategy does not matter 20:50 – Nikhil's pricing advice 22:02 – The revenue point at which businesses should hire a pricing person 23:54 – Connect with Nikhil Kotcharlakota Key Takeaways: "The best part about pricing is it's always at the center of the strategy or you'll get to work with a lot of teams; product management, sales, accounting, finance, I mean, literally every team in the company." – Nikhil Kotcharlakota "Companies have realized the consumer is king. So, they're trying to build an experience for the consumer so they continue to buy the same product over and over again." – Nikhil Kotcharlakota "If the operations are not set up properly or if there are no processes for the pricing team, a strategy might be there, but they may not be able to execute on the strategy, which will then result in loss in price or price leakage." – Nikhil Kotcharlakota People / Resources Mentioned: PriceOps: https://www.linkedin.com/company/priceops/ Win, Keep, Grow: How to Price and Package to Accelerate Your Subscription Business: https://www.amazon.com/Win-Keep-Grow-Accelerate-Subscription/dp/1631954784 Connect with Nikhil Kotcharlakota: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkotcharlakota/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Jan 2, 202325 min

Blogcast: Pricing Skills for Subscription

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on November 23, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/pricing-skills-for-subscriptions/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 30, 20223 min

Pricing Table Topics: 10 of Spades - Never Mention Competition

This is the 10 of Spades from the Selling Value card deck. Yes, we never want to mention competitors until our buyers bring them up because our buyers are on a trust journey, or at least we want to assume that they are. A trust journey is where they've come to you to ask you for help figuring out, is this really a place I should be spending my resource? Is this worth the inherent value that I'm going to get when I solve the problems that I have? And what's really important when our buyers are on this trust journey is they're not saying, how are you different from your competition? They're saying, how is it that you helped solve my problem? What we want to talk to them about during this trust journey phase is, hey, what problem are you trying to solve? What's the value of solving that problem? In essence, we're helping them build a business case for why they want to make a decision like this. And we never mention competition because it's possible they don't know that our competitors exist. It's possible that in the act of helping them build that business case, they learn to trust us so much they just want to buy from us. They're not price-sensitive at that point in time. So, the rule really needs to be, we only talk about inherent value or the value of solving the problem until a buyer tells us they're looking at competitive alternatives. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. If you want to get better at speaking, especially about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 28, 20222 min

How to Approach Increasing Your Prices Caused by Inflation with Steven Forth

Steven Forth is a Partner in Ibbaka, a strategic pricing advisory firm. He was CEO of LeveragePoint Innovations Inc., a SaaS business designed to help companies create and capture value. Steven is what I consider one of the great pricing thinkers in our industry. In this episode, Steven shares Ibbaka's approach on raising prices, especially during inflation, as he discusses what's expected to happen in the pricing world next year, given all the events that's been around this 2022. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Find out why you should first segment your customers and treat them differently before you raise your prices; Learn how to approach a price increase, especially during inflation; and Discover what's possible to happen in the pricing world in 2023, especially with concerns of inflation and recession around "Learn how to build value models, and connect them to prices." – Steven Forth Topics Covered: 01:18 – Steven's perspective on whether people should be thinking about raising prices now, along with questions to ask before you do so 04:59 – What Mark teaches his clients vs. Ibbaka's approach in raising prices 09:31 – Discussion around an inaccurate representation of inflation, especially in SaaS 12:40 – "Pricing is a game that plays out over time, and you always want to make sure you're thinking three to five moves ahead. If you don't, you're going to hurt yourself." 16:16 – Taking a look at (1) the people you sell to, (2) how recession affects prices, and (3) the finance industry 20:53 – What's happening right now? What is going to be different in 2023? 26:43 – Steven's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "There may be opportunities to raise prices, but it needs to be surgical, not broad brush. And before one raises prices, one has to ask a series of questions, beginning with what is inflation doing to my customers? And is inflation making my offer more valuable to my customers? Because if it is, then you have a great reason to raise prices. But if my customers are getting in trouble and are becoming more cost conscious because of inflation, then broad brush price increases can backfire." – Steven Forth "I think the first thing you do before you raise prices is segment your customers and treat them differently." – Steven Forth "Pricing is a game that plays out over time, and you always want to make sure you're thinking three to five moves ahead. And if you don't, you're going to hurt yourself." – Steven Forth "When we hear the word inflation, we're thinking mostly about the CPI. The CPI is not what is most relevant to business. And you have to look at how inflation is impacting your customers and even your customers' customers in order to make the right pricing." – Steven Forth "If you don't have a data model that you can apply A.I. to, you are going to lose." – Steven Forth People / Resources Mentioned: Ibbaka: https://www.ibbaka.com/ Connect with Steven Forth: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenforth/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Dec 26, 202229 min

Blogcast: An E-Commerce Price Segmentation

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on November 16, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/an-e-commerce-price-segmentation/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 23, 20222 min

Pricing Table Topics: Jack of Diamonds - Sell Like You Don't Have Competitors

This one is the Jack of Diamonds from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, you need to sell like you don't have competitors. Every once in a while, you find yourself in a situation where people aren't looking at your competitive alternative, and you don't want to bring it up to them. You may recall at this point in time that they're making a 'will I' decision, remember the 'will I' versus 'which one', and when people are making the 'will I' decision, 'Am I going to buy something in this product category?', they're not price sensitive. And so, it just makes sense for us to not talk about our competition because if they say yes to us and never consider a competitive alternative, they're not going to negotiate as hard on price. They're simply looking at what's the inherent value of solving the problem, not what's the value of your product relative to a competitor's product. So, it just makes all the sense in the world to not even mention a competitor until the buyer has already brought them up. We hope you enjoy this example of Pricing Table Topics. If you want to get better at speaking, especially about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card and read the saying, talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. And if you have any questions or feedback, please email me, [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 21, 20221 min

#CLASSIC The Art of Value with Kirk Bowman

Kirk Bowman is the founder and Visionary of Value and the Art of Value, a pricing consultancy in Dallas, TX. His podcast, the Art of Value Show, is one of the most shows for knowledge professionals. He has spoken at numeration conferences on pricing including QuickBooks Connect and Scaling New Heights. In 2011, he was appointed a Practicing Fellow at the VeraSage Institute, the think tank founded by Ron Baker. His software company, MightyData, was featured in the book Implementing Value Pricing. In this episode, Kirk talks about value pricing, how he was introduced to it and later switched to this method in estimating and billing customers. Be inspired as he shares how this decision increased his revenue by over 50% in the first year and 70% in the second. Learn this and more in his journey on value pricing. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Find out how Kirk learned about the concept of value pricing Identify the two categories in measuring results Find out details about Kirk's pricing consultancy company and his podcast "The next time the customer asks for a lower price, turn around and ask them what value they are willing to do without in order to get that price."– Kirk Bowman Topics Covered: 01:36 – How Kirk discovered value pricing 03:40 – The concept of value pricing and how it aligns the interests of the professional with his customer 07:13 – Two categories in measuring value: results or outcomes, and how the two differ 12:11 – Sharing the profile of his pricing consultancy company – Art of Value and how it is helping professionals with their business models 14:32 – His podcast – Art of Value and the reason he loves doing it 19:37 – His pricing advice that has a significant impact Key Takeaways: "The customer's interests are the most important thing. When you align with that, you're lining things up for success." – Kirk Bowman "It's so important to put alignment upfront as one of the things that you're striving for and keep your eye on at all times because it is in our human nature to focus on our own self-interest and so the focus on theirs, it requires intentionality. It requires strong character." – Kirk Bowman "Value and pricing are subjective, and by the way, that's okay." – Kirk Bowman Connect with Kirk Bowman: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirkbowman/ Website: https://artofvalue.com/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Dec 19, 202221 min

Blogcast: What Selling Value Means

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on November 9, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/what-selling-value-means/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 16, 20222 min

What Is Product-Led Growth? The Whats, Hows, and Whys with Kyle Poyar

Kyle Poyar is a product-led growth expert who worked for Simon-Kucher & Partners for six years where he was a consultant, senior consultant and manager, and director. Currently, he is the operating partner of OpenView, a firm that helps build software companies into market leaders by helping them hire the best talents, acquire and retrain the right customers, and partner with industry leaders so that they can dominate their markets. In this episode, Kyle talks us through the details of product-led growth and how it became popular in the recent years. He also shares some tips on how to make it work on businesses in certain industries. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn the definition of Product-Led Growth Find out if Product-Led Growth model is suitable for your business Learn how to shift from Sales-led model to Product-led model "With the reverse trial, your customers land in a premium version of your product, have a time-limited period that they can access it, and then they can either convert and essentially purchase, or they can keep using a free version of the product. What ends up happening is you get the best of both worlds between freemium and free trial, and so you don't actually have to choose between the two" – Kyle Poyar Topics Covered: 01:17 – How Kyle got into pricing 03:04 – More than just about numbers pricing has qualitative aspects as well 04:12 – What is product-led growth? 06:50 – Product-led growth is more than just prioritizing product over sales and marketing people 08:17 – Most companies strategized product-led growth from scratch until it was standardized 10:04 – Can companies do freemium that is not product-led growth? 11:47 – When product-led companies bring salespeople into the process 14:49 – Salespeople in product-led companies are not prospecting 15:28 – Self-serve sales work most of the time, but some transactions require salespeople 18:40 – The types of companies that does and doesn't work for product-led growth 22:26 – How Kyle would coach a sales-led company who wants to shift to product-led growth model 25:50 – Does it make sense for PLG companies to spend more on the expand side of "land and expand"? 27:07 – Kyle' pricing advice 28:33 – Connect with Kyle Key Takeaways: "In my mind, why product-led growth has taken off is because end users, as opposed to just executive buyers, have more and more power in bringing software into work. And so, you can actually make your product discovered by those users, show value to those folks and enable them to become champions in your buying process" – Kyle Poyar "Freemium is a subset of PLG. If you're doing freemium by default, you're taking steps into product led growth. But freemium isn't required to be a product-led company by any means." – Kyle Poyar "I advise companies to think in terms of where there's the most friction in their current motion and what are product-led solutions that can help solve that friction and improve upon a KPI that we want to improve on right now, and that takes us on this path to doing more PLG in the future." – Kyle Poyar Connect with Kyle Poyar: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Dec 12, 202229 min

Blogcast #84: A Fabulous New Behavioral Economics Trick

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on November 2, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/a-fabulous-new-behavioral-economics-trick/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 9, 20223 min

Pricing Table Topics #86: Jack of Clubs: Price Is Not Driving the 'Will I' Decision

This one is the Jack of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, price doesn't drive the 'will I' decision. When people are making a 'will I' decision they're trying to decide, is this a place where I should spend my resources? And although you can imagine if I make a huge change in price, I could get somebody to change their mind in terms of, will they buy in this product category or not. But most of the time that's not what's driving the decision. For example, are you in the market to buy a new car today? I'm guessing the answer is no. But what if you have an accident and your car is totaled? Well, all of a sudden, you're in the market for a new car. And it isn't the price. If we lowered the price, we raised the price, that wasn't driving your decision. It was the fact that the need came up. You realized the need, and it was a really important problem. Are you in the market to buy a new refrigerator? Probably not. What if your refrigerator breaks down? Almost everything we can go through this same example where you're not in the market to go buy something, until of course something happens to prompt you to say, hey, I'd really like one of those, and then you can go shopping for which one you want to go buy. But in the beginning, it's not the price. And so small changes in price really don't change anybody's mind in terms of, am I going to go buy something in this product category? We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. If you want to get better at speaking, especially about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card and read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what the card says. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 7, 20222 min

E-commerce Pricing That Drives Your Sales Through the Roof with Ankur Barot

Ankur Barot started his career in engineering and soon transitioned to business. Currently, he is an e-commerce expert and is working as the manager of strategic initiatives at BigBasket, one of the biggest online grocery platforms in India. In this episode, Ankur talks to us about the important strategies when it comes to pricing in the world of e-commerce. He shares valuable tips on how to make customers choose your platform over your competitors', and how to charge different prices on different customers depending on their buying behavior and your competitors' prices. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Find out the factors to consider in pricing your products in the online market Learn how to make customers choose your platform over your competitors' platforms Discover how to charge different prices on different customers by monitoring their buying behavior and your competitors' prices "In pricing, it is definitely very important considering how your costs are aligned and how the competitive prices align. A large part is also on how you are communicating the price to customers." – Ankur Barot Topics Covered: 01:32 – How Ankur got into pricing 02:17 – The work that BigBasket does, and what makes it unique 04:29 – COVID gave the companies that did delivery a chance to explode in growth 05:54 – Ability to shop in stores again did not stop customers from ordering online 06:39 – COVID was almost like a forced trial where people had to order online; and they found it to be easier and more convenient 08:11 – Promotions and other factors that determine whether customers will place an order on your platform or not 11:21 – How to get customers to order on your platform instead of your competitor's platform 16:12 – Analyze how much your customers are willing to pay for a product; Make sure the customers would get what they want even right before the billing process 20:05 – How to charge different prices to different customers by monitoring their buying behavior as well as the competitors' prices 23:29 – How companies in India find the prices of their competitors' products 27:02 – Ankur's pricing advice 29:36 – Connect with Ankur Key Takeaways: "We learned that pricing plus the stock availability as well as assortment, as well as how you are charging the convenience fee – all these aspects will decide whether the customer is placing an order on your platform or not." – Ankur Barot "It is not about only the product pricing that the e-commerce portal has, it is what other parts of the chain that will bring in a customer and place an order on your platform." – Ankur Barot "At the back end, what the company or what we are trying to do is select our key value items that the customer will remember the prices for, and we'll definitely build a long-term perspective that they are the cheapest among all the competitors." – Ankur Barot People / Resources Mentioned: BigBasket: https://www.bigbasket.com/ Connect with Ankur Barot: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ankurbarot/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Dec 5, 202230 min

Blogcast #83: More Lessons from Netflix

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on October 26, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/more-lessons-from-netflix/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Dec 2, 20222 min

Pricing Table Topics #85: Jack of Hearts: 'Will I' Decision Needs Different Information than 'Which One' Decision

This is the Jack of Hearts from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, buyers making the 'will I' decision do need different information than those making the 'which one' decision. In the 'will I' decision, they're trying to decide, should I buy something in this product category or not? What they're really saying is, is this a place I should spend my budget? Or you could think of this as, how big is the problem I'm going to solve, should I spend these resources to go solve this problem? And that's the information they want to know is, what's the value of solving this problem? Once they've said, yes, that seems like a good place to spend my money. Then they move on to making a 'which one' decision. Should I buy your product or should I buy a competitor's product? When they're making this 'which one' decision, they're now looking at the differences of the products, the features, and in fact, they're trying to estimate how much value is that feature for that one more expensive product. I often like to think what they're really asking is, is the more expensive product worth it? So, when buyers are making the 'which one' decision, they're actually looking at the differentiation of our products. So, it's true, buyers making the 'will I' decision do need different information than buyers making the 'which one' decision. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. If you want to get better at speaking, specifically about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 30, 20222 min

#CLASSIC Value-based Pricing: How to Get Started and How to Succeed with Stephan Liozu

Stephan Liozu is the Founder of Value Innoruption Advisors, a boutique consulting firm specializing in disruptive approaches in value, pricing, and strategic management. He helps leaders in organizations that want to get started in pricing by conducting assessments and building road maps. In this episode, learn all about value pricing and how to use the right pricing toolbox to come up with a price based on how much a customer believes a product is worth. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Discover why value-based pricing is the most neglected step in understanding price Learn how to communicate product value in value conversations with customers before products are made for better pricing Find out the importance of having a pricing strategy to determine a product's value "Critical problems are around value. Pricing comes later." – Stephan Liozu Topics Covered: 01:01 - How Stephan got into Pricing: having been named ACP deployment officer for Owens Corning Europe taking care of the pricing module in SAP 02:37 - The role of a chief value officer: Being the chief conductor of all the value and pricing activity in an organization. 05:50 - The whole process of measuring value, creating, and capturing it using the dollarization methodology 07:39 - Going through value creation: looking at the customer problem, do a better job of understanding the customer problem, uncovering it through market research, insights, and ethnographic research 09:14 - '99% of businesses are there to create value, oftentimes they don't know what value really means.' Stephan's thoughts on it. 13:40 - Conversations put your customers at ease. Stephan's perspective about value conversation and the challenge that goes with it. 16:30 - Why do companies don't understand what product value is? Stephan states the three reasons why. 17:58 - Why is it important to ask the right questions? 19:18 - Customer segmentation is an often-neglected part of a value conversation. Another reason why companies don't think about value. 19:54 - What Stephan is up to these days: leveraging technology to a lot of his work focusing on monetization of software and data. 21:03 - Hardware product companies are giving away the software as a way to sell their hardware. We hear Stephan's idea about it. 22:32 - Talking about cost and value in SaaS companies. The challenge of communicating the value of its product. 24:49 - He couldn't care less about focusing more on the value of a product. His one pricing advice that could impact your business. Key Takeaways: "Our competitors are also looking at the customer problem. So, we got to do a better job at understanding the customer problem, uncovering it through market research, insights, ethnographic research." - Stephan Liozu "I wanted not to be a CPO chief pricing officer, I wanted to be a CVO chief value officer, because our critical problems are around value, you know, pricing comes later." - Stephan Liozu "Psychologically it puts your customers at ease when you have a conversation, whether it's in creation mode, in quantification, validation, and communication." - Stephan Liozu "To be doing the work in value, you have to have value conversations." - Stephan Liozu "If we have to continue doing everything in finance around the product, then we're not going to achieve our goal to show the value of everything else we do in the bundle." - Stephan Liozu People / Resources Mentioned: Ron Baker: https://impactpricing.com/podcast/ep44-ronald-j-baker-trash-the-timesheet-exploring-opportunities-in-subscription-businesses/ Connect with Stephan Liozu: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanliozu/ Website: http://stephanliozu.com/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Nov 28, 202226 min

Blogcast #82: Value and Price for a Few Customers

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on October 19, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/value-and-price-for-a-few-customers/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 25, 20223 min

Business Negotiations: How to Sell without Actually 'Selling' with Andy Paul

Andy Paul is the author of Sell Without Selling Out. He's the host of the Sales Enablement Podcast, and has experience on being VP of Business Development and VP of Sales. In this episode, Andy talks about the importance of the "human element" and why we should utilize it more when it comes to business negotiations Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn how automated business sequences negatively affects your business Understand the importance of having the "human element" in business negotiations Find out why you should hire actual negotiation experts and not salespeople when it comes to price negotiations "Managers, take responsibility. Don't put the discounting in the hands of the sellers. And if managers show a little more discipline, then they can preserve the margins better." – Andy Paul Topics Covered: 02:35 – The time Andy learned that pricing is important in the world of sales 06:02 – Selling is about listening to your customers and finding ways to help them 08:37 – How you should communicate value to a customer to make a successful sales meeting 13:28 – Making your customers feel understood is one step in winning sales 17:07 – Why salespeople are unable to utilize the human element 19:20 – Automated selling sequences is mostly persuasive, which is not the best way to go in sales 20:50 – Salespeople's job is to build one on one relationships with customers, as all customers are not the same 22:30 – How salespeople should handle price segmentations or price negotiations 25:25 – Have professional contract negotiators handle negotiations, and you'll end up getting better deals 29:11 – Andy's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "I say sales, what you have to think about is your job as a salesperson is really nothing more than listening to your buyer, understanding the things that are most important to them in terms of the challenges they face and the outcomes they want to achieve by addressing those challenges and then helping them get that. That's your job. Listen and help." – Andy Paul "If you can be the first to make the buyer feel understood, there are serious milestones happening that you can actually put yourself in the pole position, and win the deal at a higher frequency than your competitors." – Andy Paul "When humanity becomes the differentiator and all the automated buying experiences start to become more similar, how do you stand apart? Being human." – Andy Paul "Everyone wants to point the finger at salespeople as to be the blame for discounting. And the fault is really managers. It's not salespeople." – Andy Paul People / Resources Mentioned: How to Sell Without Selling out: https://www.amazon.com/Sell-Without-Selling-Out-Success/dp/1989603572 Humans are Underrated: https://www.amazon.com/Humans-Are-Underrated-Achievers-Brilliant/dp/0143108379 Talent is Overrated: https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Overrated-Separates-World-Class-Performers/dp/1591842948 Geoffrey Colvin: https://geoffcolvin.com/ Toastmasters: https://www.toastmasters.org/ Connect with Andy Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realandypaul/ Website: https://www.andypaul.com/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Nov 21, 202233 min

Blogcast #81: The Strategic Hot Dog

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on October 12, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/the-strategic-hot-dog/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 18, 20222 min

Memecast #84: Jack of Spades: Will I, then Which One

This one is the Jack of Spades from the Selling Value card deck. Buyers usually make a 'will I' decision, then decide 'which one'. They make the 'will I' decision, meaning, am I going to buy something in the product category? Am I going to buy a new car? Am I going to buy a new guitar? Am I going to buy a new refrigerator? Am I going to go out to dinner tonight? Am I going to hire a consultant? We make this 'will I' decision, and then after we've said, yes, I need a - you pick it - I need to hire a consultant, then we decide 'which one'. We interview several different consultants. We get bids from them. We see which ones we get along with. But then we're making that 'which one' decision. And it's very important for our sales people, our marketing people, even our product people, to understand the difference between these two questions because when buyers are making these two decisions, they're using different information and they care about different things. Oh, and from my perspective, the price sensitivity changes dramatically and they become much more price sensitive when they move to the 'which one' decision. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 16, 20222 min

Adjusting for Inflation: How to Increase Your Price with Marina Dias

Marina Dias has been in the pricing industry for almost ten years. Currently, she is the senior pricing expert and consultant at Competera, a company that helps retailers and brands to increase customer trust by setting and maintaining optimal prices in real-time. In this episode, Marina explains why constant communication with clients is essential in creating pricing strategies. She also enlightens us on the concept of price elasticity, and why understanding it is especially important in this time of inflation. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn the importance of having constant communication with your client about pricing strategies despite the widespread of AI and pricing software Understand the concept of price elasticity Find out how you could adjust your prices in this age of inflation "Think about governance; and don't forget that pricing, at the end of the day, is about people – our customers, our colleagues, and our internal resources of an organization." – Marina Dias Topics Covered: 01:01 – How Marina got into pricing 02:58 – Why more than just dealing with numbers, pricing is an art 07:12 – Why talking to clients about pricing strategies is still important despite the widespread of AI and "black box" pricing software 10:35 – Competera's advice to their clients with regards to dealing with inflation 14:06 – Pricing shall be focused on experience at all times, but pricing strategy and processes are critical in this time of inflation 16:15 – Defining price elasticity and the different factors that affect it 19:37 – Understanding elasticity, and how it plays a vital role in a company's decision making 23:21 – Pricing table topics: "Don't raise prices on subscribers who aren't using the product." 27:09 – Marina's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "I would say that we cannot apply stoicism when we are working at our daily business, because it's something that if we forget about the things that we cannot control, they will control us." – Marina Dias "People migrate between brands. People migrate between competitors. People have the decision at the end of the day, but we have the power to influence. It's one of the variables that we cannot control, of course. It's our costumers' behavior, but we have the power to influence this through pricing." – Marina Dias "At the end of the day, elasticity… it's only a number. But it can help us to drive to have scenarios in our hands and to be able to support our decision making." – Marina Dias People / Resources Mentioned: Competera: https://competera.net/ Connect with Marina Dias: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinandias/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Nov 14, 202229 min

Blogcast #80: Raise Prices Now

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on October 5, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/raise-prices-now/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 11, 20221 min

Memecast #83: Queen of Diamonds: Inherent Value and Relative Value

This one is the Queen of Diamonds from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, buyers are using inherent value or relative value. This is how they think about the decision that they're making. And salespeople's job should be to help buyers make that decision so we should understand what's the decision a buyer is making. What's the information they need at any given point in time? Well, inherent value is the value of solving a problem. Do I need to buy a new car? Do I need to buy a guitar? Do I need to buy a new dishwasher, a new refrigerator? Do I need to buy a pencil, a new software application? This is the inherent value, what's the value of solving the problem? So why might I need a new car? Because I just crashed mine. Or it just broke down. Or it's getting old. Or I just got a job where my image is really important. These are all great reasons why I might need to buy a new car. And these are inherent value. Are we thinking about the way our buyers are thinking through do I need to buy one of these or not? Oftentimes after they said yes, then they go into relative value. And relative value is, how is your product better than a competitor's product, or different than a competitor's product? What does it do? How does it behave? So, we start thinking of relative value as comparing different alternatives. Our buyers are truly thinking in those two different ways even if they can't articulate it. As salespeople, we should make sure we understand that so we can help buyers make the best decision for them and for us. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts around value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 9, 20222 min

Reading Facial Microexpressions for Business and Negotiations with Annie Sarnblad

Annie Sarnblad has a Masters in Cultural Anthropology. She is certified in Facial Action Coding and can numerically code the 10,000 muscle combinations in human expression. With this skill, Annie has been helping companies to make informed decisions. Besides her corporate clients, Annie also helps high-profile families with heightened security needs, individuals navigating charged political situations, educators, peace mediators, medical professionals, and others. In this episode, Annie talks about the importance of understanding microexpressions in business. She also discusses some of the most observable expressions that would enable business people to assess the situation properly and make necessary adjustments when needed. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn about the science behind facial microexpressions Discover how understanding facial microexpressions could help you in your business Acquire knowledge about the most common microexpressions and how to capitalize on them when you are in a business meeting "My piece of advice is for any business to recognize the importance that pricing can play in reaching their growth targets and objectives and making sure that they recognize that pricing has to be rooted in value." – Annie Sarnblad Topics Covered: 01:42 – Annie explains her skill of being a "human lie detector" 04:11 – The science behind reading facial microexpressions 08:32 – You have no control over facial microexpressions; it just shows 12:19 – No one can really just "smile" for the camera, except when they are actually happy 14:04 – Annie doesn't remember static faces, only the muscle movements 18:43 – Observing the pupil is the easiest to learn because we are already looking at the eyes 22:02 – Why Annie wanted to learn how to read microexpressions 24:30 – Always look out for "disgust" or the "no" face when you are in a meeting 26:16 – Seeing the "no" face means that you have a choice to make 28:57 – How simply looking for pupil dilation could help you pivot from one topic to another and increase your price 31:05 – Annie's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "Muscle movement precedes the thought process. Even somebody like me that's hyper-trained and thinks about this 24/7, I can't stop myself from making the micro expressions unless I change my thought patterns and think about something else." – Annie Sarnblad "Nobody's ever felt cheerful when they get an order to smile." – Annie Sarnblad "If we're building strategy, we can have incredibly intelligent, high-level strategic brains and know the business, know the industry, know the players. But if we're not understanding how the players are interacting with each other, what their primary motivations are, what's in it for them, if we don't understand what's under the surface, we're basing our strategy on the wrong things." – Annie Sarnblad "Once people have a vocabulary for the stuff that they see all the time, they then can have a much higher-level conversation." – Annie Sarnblad "I think people just are so rushed to get everything closed immediately that they sometimes don't use all the information that's available to them to make good choices." – Annie Sarnblad Connect with Annie Sarnblad: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annie-sarnblad/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Nov 7, 202233 min

Blogcast #79: Reading Buyers Minds

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 28, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/reading-buyers-minds/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 4, 20222 min

Memecast #82: Queen of Clubs: Customers Perception of Value is their Reality

This one is the Queen of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. Customers' perception of value is their reality. This is absolutely true. Think about when you purchase something. You don't have the time or the energy to go out and learn everything there is to possibly know about everything. In fact, if you're like me, you've probably purchased things, and made a mistake, "Oh, this really didn't solve the problem I thought it was going to solve. It really didn't look the way I thought it was going to look or act the way I thought it was going to act." And what that really meant was that before we bought the product, we had this perception of what we thought the product would do, and it didn't live up to that. The 'didn't live up to that' is true reality. This is what it really does. But prior to the purchase, the only thing that mattered was what we believe. And this is true of our customers as well. Prior to them making a purchase decision, all they can do is use what they believe to be true as information to make the decision. We need to understand that because our job, if we're selling value, is to make sure their perception of our value is really high. Ideally, we make sure it's accurate, but we want to make sure it's high. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Nov 2, 20222 min

How Retail and Analytics-Based Pricing Works with Kiran Gange

Kiran Gange is the CEO and Founder of RapidPricer, a company that helps automate pricing and promotions for retailers. He helps companies grow internationally, especially into India. And he was a Senior Strategy Analyst at Fry's Electronics. In this episode, Kiran educates us on retail and analytics-based pricing as he shares hypotheses and strategies you can practice in pricing your own products. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn how to price retail products both in B2B and B2C setting Understand why you should increase your price in phases and not shock your customer at once Find out how important analytics-based pricing in, and discover strategies on how you can actually do it in your business "Look at your past data. Use your intuition to guide the data analysis, but don't only base your decision on intuition." – Kiran Gange Topics Covered: 01:31 – How Kiran got into pricing 02:36 – Pricing in both the environments of B2B and B2C in retail 05:07 – A hypothesis to test for foot traffic and cameras 07:13 – Talking about the work that RapidPricer does 11:15 – The strategy on how to rapidly change prices, and the difference between base price and promoted price 14:00 – The difference between AI and a strategically thought-out programming 17:06 – Discussion around analytics-based pricing frameworks, and Mark's 'which one' and 'will I' concept 21:01 – Using AI to know which products people are price sensitive on 22:09 – Pricing table topics: "Execute price increases in phases; test the outcomes." 24:08 – Kiran's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "There's a difference between a base price and a promoted price. The base price is when you decide what is the right price to keep inside your store for a longer time. A promotion is an instant decision, typically to correct something which is a negative factor." – Kiran Gange "Customers don't like prices changing up on them instantly." – Kiran Gange "Strategy is always the foundation behind how the prices should be done. It shouldn't be an entirely "I have no clue what's happening. Here's the price. Here you go. Cancel the black box." Ever. I believe, at least retailers are so traditional; they won't accept a solution like that." – Kiran Gange "You need to know which products are people sensitive about and make sure they get the best value on those products to compete on those products. And the others can be your profit drivers." – Kiran Gange "Whenever you have this cost increases, have like a strategy to understand which products are going to absorb the cost over time and which products can take it immediately. That will help you both stay up to date with your latest cost and not upset your customers too much." – Kiran Gange People / Resources Mentioned: RapidPricer: https://www.rapidpricer.com/ Fry's Electronics: https://www.youtube.com/fryselectronics DemandTec: https://www.demandtec.com/ Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ Connect with Kiran Gange: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirangange/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Oct 31, 202226 min

Blogcast #78: Value-Based Prospecting

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 21, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/value-based-prospecting/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 28, 20223 min

Memecast #81: Queen of Hearts: Buyers won't Listen to Your Solution

This one is the Queen of Hearts from the Selling Value card deck. Buyers who don't believe you understand their problems, won't listen to your solution. Buyers want to trust you as a salesperson, as a company. Buyers want to trust that you understand them because if you don't understand their problems, how is it that you could possibly solve their problems? People are buying products; they're buying solutions to problems. Our best bet is to make sure our buyers, our customers, understand that we know what their problems are. We've seen them before. We've solved them before. This makes buyers comfortable. Well, how can we do that if all we do is show up and pitch our product? How can we do that if all we do is talk about our product? If instead, we spend time listening, learning about what their problems really are, talking about their problems and how we've seen these problems in the past. Then they know that we know their problems, and then they're much more open to hearing our solutions to their problems. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts around value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 26, 20222 min

Service-Led Growth: Why, How and When to Utilize It with Karen Chiang

Karen Chiang is a co-founder and managing partner of Ibbaka, a company that provides software and expertise to enable business growth by optimizing revenue performance through customer value management and talent optimization. In this episode, Karen talks about service-led growth and its advantages over product-led growth in certain situations. She also tells us when and how to utilize it, along with the concept of collaborating with the customer throughout the journey in order to maintain and maximize the value of your product or services. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn the fundamentals of service-led growth Discover why service-led growth might be more useful to your business than product-led growth Find out how to maintain and maximize value by keeping in touch with your clients "My piece of advice is for any business to recognize the importance that pricing can play in reaching their growth targets and objectives and making sure that they recognize that pricing has to be rooted in value" – Karen Chiang Topics Covered: 01:12 – How Karen got into pricing 01:53 – What is service-led growth? 04:09 – Product-led growth vs. service-led growth: Which one to use, and when 14:47 – Is service-led growth functional in industries other than consulting? 18:26 – How knowing the insights of your customers helps in increasing the value for your product 21:02 – The concept of customer journey in service-led growth 23:52 – The difference between product-led growth and service-led growth 26:54 – Karen's pricing advice 28:24 – Connect with Karen Chiang Key Takeaways: "The reality is that not all customers are looking for product-led solutions." – Karen Chiang "If you are working with customers which are trying to solve complex problems, which require a more collaborative approach, then you are not in the business of product-led growth or you shouldn't choose product-led growth as your strategy. In fact, you should be looking at service-led growth." – Karen Chiang "Pricing is very linked, very much linked to the value that your customer cares about." – Karen Chiang "With service-led growth, you are not just thinking about the term of the platform once a year. You are, by nature, collaborating with your customer throughout the journey." – Karen Chiang People / Resources Mentioned: Ibbaka: https://www.ibbaka.com/ Steven Forth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenforth Connect with Karen Chiang: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-chiang-2623241/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Oct 24, 202229 min

Blogcast #77: How to Give Salespeople Discount Authority

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 14, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/how-to-give-salespeople-discount-authority/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 21, 20223 min

Memecast #80: Queen of Spades: Experts Buy Features, Everyone Else Buys Benefits

This one is the Queen of Spades from the Selling Value card deck. It turns out that when we shop for something, especially if it's something that we've never owned before, we've never purchased before, we are not experts in the product. We're trying to learn as much as we can about what makes sense. What's going to be good for us. Where's the best bang for our buck. We are not experts in the product category. And yet, if it's something that we've bought many, many times, as we become expert, then we stop thinking about what are the benefits I need to achieve and we start thinking about what are the features. Possibly my favorite example of this is imagine buying a computer. I'm guessing you've bought many computers in your life and you understand what many of the features do for you. For example, the size of the hard disc or the size of the RAM. And when you walk into a Best Buy store and you're going to buy a new computer, when the geek says to you, "Yeah, this one does emails and photos really well." You're thinking, "Go away, I don't want to know the benefits. Tell me what's the size of the hard disc, how much RAM, where's the processor speed." On the other hand, imagine it was your first computer. And someone walks in and says, "This is a two-gigabit processor with quad processors and two terabytes of hard disc and 256 gigabytes of memory." And you're thinking, "Is that good or not?" Because then you need the benefits. Most of the time, if we've got a direct salesperson selling a product, we're selling to somebody who hasn't bought the product before. We're selling to somebody who isn't an expert. And what that means is we should stop talking about our features, we really need to talk about our benefits. Features are simply proof points that we can achieve the benefits. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 19, 20222 min

How Accountants Should Price their Services with Geraldine Carter

Geraldine Carter runs She Thinks Big Coaching where she helps CPAs do less without sacrificing revenue. Although her target market are CPAs, she actually has a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from Cornell University. She was also a cycling guide for Backroads and now hosts her own podcast called The Business Strategy for CPAs. In this episode, she talks about the structure of pricing in the accounting industry and the reason why most CPAs are underpriced. She then discusses her so-called "effortless value" where accountants could earn more without having to do extra work. Finally, she shares her tips on how accountants could earn more by having expertise and charging their clients more. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn why you should have a deep expertise instead of being a generalist Acquire techniques on how to increase your value without doing more Discover the reason why charging more is better for you and your clients "It's good for your clients to charge them more" – Geraldine Carter Topics Covered: 01:33 – How Geraldine got into pricing 03:10 – The problem of pricing in the accounting industry 05:24 – What is Menu Pricing and its difference from Subscription Pricing 09:16 – CPAs are not a subscription 10:11 – How "billing" works in CPAs 11:56 – The prevailing mindset among CPAs 13:11 – Why having a deep expertise is essential in getting better prices 17:04 – The mindset that needs to be changed in the accounting industry 17:54 – What is "Effortless Value" 20:49 – Geraldine's bicycling pricing story 24:06 – Pricing table topics: Subscriptions have three revenue buckets: win, keep, and grow. Manage all three. 27:51: Geraldine's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "You can legitimately be given the marketplace and the absence of segmentation, become an expert and have expertise that the client cannot find anywhere else, either in their zip code or on the Internet. It just doesn't exist. There's so little competition that if you in fact do have deep expertise." – Geraldine Carter "Effortless value is this idea of going through your business and looking at all the ways you could improve. You could add value to your clients experience without it being more work." – Geraldine Carter "Your buyers take your price as a signal of quality. And if it is not high enough for what they are expecting to pay, they will keep on walking." – Geraldine Carter "If your delivery is dialed in and your clients are delighted and you make good on your promise, they will continue to stay." – Geraldine Carter People / Resources Mentioned: She Thinks Big Coaching: https://geraldinecarter.com/ Smart Strategy for CPAs: https://www.businessstrategyforcpas.com/ Jonathan Stark: https://jonathanstark.com/ Ron Baker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronbaker1/ Selling Value: How to Win More Deals in Higher Prices: https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Value-Deals-Higher-Prices/dp/1737655217 Connect with Geraldine Carter: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geraldine-carter/ Email: [email protected] Website: https://geraldinecarter.com/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Oct 17, 202229 min

Blogcast #76: Why You SHOULD Give Salespeople Discount Authority

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on September 7, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/why-you-should-give-salespeople-discount-authority/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 14, 20222 min

Memecast #79: King of Diamonds: Salespeople Must Be Confident They Can Win at High Prices

This one is the King of Diamonds from the Selling Value card deck. If a salesperson doesn't believe they're going to win selling your product, they're not going to try to sell your product. They don't want to bang their head against a wall. They're going to go sell whatever happens to be easiest. But the next step is, assuming they can sell our product, how do we get them to sell it and win at the higher prices to stop giving away deep discounts? Well, the question becomes, does a salesperson truly believe your product is worth the price? If a salesperson has confidence that their customer is going to get so much more value than whatever the price is that we're going to charge, then they're much more likely to win at higher prices. If a salesperson questions the amount of value customers might get, if a salesperson doesn't believe deep down in their soul that this product is a great product for their customer, then they're going to tend to discount. They're going to offer discounts and hope that the buyer says, "Yes, finally, the value that I receive is worth the price that you're asking." What we want is for our salespeople to go in confidently. What we really want is for our salespeople to understand the value that we deliver, truly believe the value we deliver, and be able to communicate that value to the buyer. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 12, 20222 min

The Future of SaaS Packaging with Dor Sasson

Dor Sasson is the co-founder and CEO of Stigg, a company that helps clients grow with pricing through a software that enables them to control what can be priced and packaged separately, and make adjustments without having to do coding. He has also been a Senior Product Manager at New Relic, a technology company which develops cloud-based software to help website and application owners track the performance of their services. In this episode, Dor shares how his experience in New Relic led him to explore the field of SaaS packaging and how his company, Stigg, aims to provide solutions to packaging problems from the developers' end. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Pickup ideas about the adjustments to be done when switching to usage-based pricing Discover how Stigg could help you on your packaging and pricing problems Learn the importance of asking the right questions in the success of businesses "Talk to your customers, ask them about their willingness to pay. There are amazing frameworks out there for how to ask the right questions. It will unlock immense, deep understanding of how your customers think about your pricing and will really help you to nail down your own pricing strategy. – Dor Sasson Topics Covered: 01:11 – How Dor got into pricing 03:59 – What is "entitlements"? 04:52 – Adjustments made by New Relic upon switching to usage-based pricing 08:09 – The work that Stigg actually does 15:48 – The difference between buyers and users 16:35 – Situations in the past where Stigg would've been a big help 20:51 – Dor's vision and mission for his company, Stigg 23:49 – Pricing table topics: "Good, better, best" pricing is significantly more effective within a market segment 26:38 – Dor's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "The way we like to think about Stigg is, we want to build out an infrastructure that is so easy to implement and so easy to adopt from the application side that it makes it really fast and easy for product and growth teams to introduce new pricing plans, changes in existing pricing plans." – Dor Sasson "The value that we unlock is for builders and growth leaders out there that are looking to use pricing as a vehicle for growth and help their companies continue to adapt to changing markets, continue to adapt to how they scale into new customer segments, and basically make sure that they give their buyers more options to use their software." – Dor Sasson "Our North star by the end of the day is not only helping our customers be faster in the way they introduce changes and launch new pricing but also ultimately unlock growth by allowing more flexibility for their buyers to use and consume their products." – Dor Sasson "There is no "one size fits all" in pricing. The first thing you got to do is understand in a very deep and thoughtful way, who are your customer segments, and good, better, best is actually a really good strategy to approach different customer segments and make sure that you build your pricing in a way that fits or is more aligned to the way each segment perceive value." – Dor Sasson People / Resources Mentioned: Stigg: https://www.stigg.io/ New Relic: https://newrelic.com/ Connect with Dor Sasson: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/datapm/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DorSasson Website: https://www.stigg.io/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]

Oct 10, 202229 min

Blogcast #75: Why You Should NOT Give Salespeople Discount Authority

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 31, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/why-you-should-not-give-salespeople-discount-authority/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 7, 20223 min

Memecast #78: King of Clubs: Executives Show Interest in Value

This one is the King of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. What we really want is for our salespeople to be able to communicate the value of our products to our customers. It turns out that's so much easier to do when our marketing department has figured out and created the materials and the support to help salespeople go do that. But then marketing has to understand how is it that our customers value our products. And this is so much easier to do, if our product people create products that truly have value to our customers so they understand the value that our customers get from our products. It turns out very few people truly understand how much value we get, and if we want our entire company to truly think about value, to be able to communicate value, create value, capture value, the best and easiest way to do that is for the executive team to show interest about value. And what that truly means is that executives should be asking questions, how is it that customers are going to value this new feature, this new product? How much will they value it? How is it different from our competitors and how much do they value that differentiation? What problems are we solving? What problems are we solving our competitors aren't solving? Executives showing interest in value can help drive value to be a mindset inside the entire company. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Oct 5, 20222 min

The Structure of SaaS Pricing and Designing SaaS Pricing Models with Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt

Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt is the partner of willingnesstopay.com where they help companies create pricing models that radically accelerates growth and unlocks the value of their underlying technology. He has founded and sold two different companies, and he has a master's degree from Harvard. He also has an upcoming book called "The Pricing Roadmap" which will be published this December. In this episode, Ulrik enumerates four (4) things that he thinks are the most important in SaaS pricing. He also shares his methods on product segmentation and explains why the traditional "good, better, and best" product tier is lacking some important details. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn about designing your models as well as the structure of SaaS pricing Find out how different 'tiered packaging' is to Mark's idea of good, better, best Understand what prescriptive solution is and why you should not do it "Usually, people underestimate the pricing power they have in the market. So, I see, even if you had to do it blind, the chances that you could make more money by raising prices, even poorly, is better than what you're doing." – Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt Topics Covered: 01:47 – How Ulrik got into pricing 05:43 – The top four things that really matter in SaaS pricing 08:22 – There are no perfect outcomes; only workable and functional outcomes 09:27 – How Ulrik does product segmentation 12:09 – What is prescriptive solution and why you should avoid it 15:19 – Ulrik's attempt on product packaging with conjoint analysis 18:04 – What Ulrik likes about being a pricing consultant 19:45 – Ulrik's thoughts on the three tiers of products (Good, Better, Best) 21:24 – How Ulrik actually defines the tiered packaging model 22:08 – The specifics of "Tiered Packaging"; how it's different from good, better, best 28:30 – Ulrik's pricing advice 29:59 – Connect with Ulrik Key Takeaways: "If you have segments that are so different that they need different pricing models and product models, that's the first thing you need to figure out." – Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt "There are two different high level tool boxes to do price discrimination; pricing matrix and packaging. Packaging runs on functionality, and pricing metrics on some volume or usage." – Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt "There's not a perfect outcome. There is a workable outcome, functional outcome to run through. And then you might want to go back and change something if there is a better outcome to be had." – Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt People / Resources Mentioned: The Pricing Roadmap: https://www.willingnesstopay.com/saas-pricing-book Connect with Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulriklehrskovschmidt/ Website: https://www.willingnesstopay.com/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Oct 3, 202231 min

Blogcast #74: Qdoba Knows their Buyer's Decision Journey

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 24, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/qdoba-knows-their-buyers-decision-journey/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 30, 20223 min

Memecast #77: King of Hearts: Value-based Pricing is Impossible

This one is the King of Hearts from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, value-based pricing is impossible because value-based pricing simply means charge what your customers are willing to pay. And yet you don't know how much your customers are willing to pay. You can't read their mind. You don't know the answer and you never will know the answer. But instead of assuming we're ever going to get perfect, let's assume we can get better. We can adopt this as a mindset. If we're thinking always about how much is our market, our customer, willing to pay. All of a sudden, we change our thinking from cost-plus, we have to cover our cost type thinking, to, could I get more from this customer? Could I get more from this marketplace? And as we start thinking that way, we also start thinking, can I create products that deliver a little bit more value? Can I communicate my value better to my customers? Can I help my customers, or my buyers, understand that there's way more value there than they originally thought, and therefore they would be willing to pay us more money? Once we start to understand and think about how is it that our customers value our products, then we have the ability to price and capture more of that value, meaning more profit to us. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 28, 20222 min

Finding Value in the First Call: Asking the Right Questions with Bryan Whittington

Bryan Whittington is the founder of ebs/growth, a firm that helps companies create a more effective sales team. Also, he is the host of the Talent Sales & Scale podcast, and was a sales trainer for over ten years. In this episode, Bryan discusses how he handles exploratory or discovery calls. He explains how he talks with his clients and potential clients in order to find the root cause of their problems, and shares some of his techniques to get these clients to propose the possible solutions to their problems themselves. Why you have to checkout today's podcast: Learn how an expert like Bryan Whittington handles discovery calls Acquire new techniques in scrutinizing your clients' problems Discover smart ways to find a solution to your clients' problems "Pricing is a belief. You either believe that your price is not worth what you're asking, or you're able to convey that your price is worth it to your prospect, your buyer. But price is absolutely a belief. You choose which belief you want." – Bryan Whittington Topics Covered: 01:15 – How Bryan got into pricing 02:08 – Selling value vs. selling a commodity 05:08 – What to avoid when having a discovery call 07:02 – How to handle a discovery call, step 1 09:23 – Why it is better to setup that next meeting 13:30 – How to handle a discovery call, step 2 14:19 – Why you shouldn't allow your clients to rate their problem a 7/10 15:01 – How to handle a discovery call, step 3 17:59 – Finding out the root cause of the clients' problems 22:54 – When and how to name the price of your solution based on the magnitude of the problem 24:46 – Pricing table topics: "Salespeople use every tool available to close a deal. When given authority to discount, they will use it more often than necessary" 28:20 – Bryan's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "Sales is how you identify what their challenges are, whether or not you can solve the problem of those challenges, and then understand the value of you fixing those problems for that organization will be, and you can charge an appropriate value for it." – Bryan Whittington "That conversation should take anywhere between 5 to 8 minutes. And if it's longer than that, you've already started your initial first sales call, and I wouldn't suggest you do that." – Bryan Whittington "Often, the problem that the person brings you is never really the problem. We have to identify the real root cause to know whether or not your solution will work. If your solution won't work for that root cause, then make an introduction to somebody where it will." – Bryan Whittington People / Resources Mentioned: ebs/growth: https://ebsgrowth.com/ Talent, Sales & Scale Podcast: https://ebsgrowth.com/podcast/ Connect with Bryan Whittington: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brywhittington/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]

Sep 26, 202230 min

Blogcast #73: Training Salespeople

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 17, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/training-salespeople/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 23, 20224 min

Memecast #76: King of Spades: The Most Profitable Pricing Strategy

This one is the King of Spades from the Selling Value card deck. It's true, value-based pricing is the most profitable pricing strategy you can adopt. If you think about it, the definition of value-based pricing is charge what your customers are willing to pay. Now, that seems pretty simple, but if you knew exactly how much your customers were willing to pay, and you charged that amount, then you can't possibly make more money. If you charge less than that amount, you end up leaving money on the table. If you charge more than that amount, your buyer doesn't buy. So, by definition, value-based pricing is the most profitable pricing strategy you can adopt. However, it's impossible to do perfectly because there's no way that you know how much somebody is willing to pay for your product. We can't read our customer's minds. What we can do though, is adopt this as a strategy, an attitude, a goal, and continue to do things so that we can learn more and more about our markets and our customer's willingness to pay and get to the point where we're capturing more of it each time. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate important concepts about value. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 21, 20222 min

How Airlines, Hotels, and Cruises Price their Services with Dinaz Zaq

Dinaz Zaq is the Director at Revenue Pricing Consultants in London, the "home of revenue management and pricing expertise" that focuses on increasing profitability through diagnostic review. Dinaz spent 20 years in Revenue Management at British Airways, and also worked for resorts, hotels, and cruise lines. In this episode, Dinaz explains how airlines, hotels, and cruises do pricing as she shares some of the strategies they use in line with the factors that affect their pricing decisions. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Understand how most airlines, hotels, and cruises do pricing; Discover the strategies they use and the factors that affect their pricing decisions; and Find out why each employee – even the cabin crews – are important on getting customers and providing great service "The biggest thing that you need to get right is your demand before you make any pricing decision at all." – Dinaz Zaq Topics Covered: 01:32 – How Dinaz got into pricing 03:02 – How do airlines do pricing? What factors affect their pricing decisions? 10:03 – The strategy behind "I will get the best price on a domestic flight if I book it six weeks before my flight" 11:47 – The difference between pricing hotels and pricing airplane seats 14:06 – Why hotels don't hold their prices really high for last-minute travelers 15:53 – Hotels and discounts on their rates 16:40 – What is the strategy of cruises when it comes to pricing? 20:35 – Pricing table topics: "Every employee creates or destroys value" 22:35 – Dinaz's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "Things depend, really, on the strategy that the airline follows and what's the flavor of the day as far as their management is concerned." – Dinaz Zaq "You might get some hotels that won't drop their price. Some might even take walk ins at the door for a cheaper price. They don't want to publish it on the internet. Airlines might. It's about, you know, when we talk strategy, when you try to hold the price then drop it later, you can sell it through a different distribution channel so that it doesn't hit the public and therefore not destroy your pricing strategy." – Dinaz Zaq "Their strategy is to fill it to 100%, and that's why you might find cruise prices dropping near at the time quite a bit. But what the customer misses out on is you may not get your best cabin if you wait too long, because the people that are regular cruisers, they have got all the balconies and then you'd be stuck somewhere on top of the discotheque or in a noisy area or whatever." – Dinaz Zaq People / Resources Mentioned: British Airways: https://www.britishairways.com/ STR: https://str.com/ Marriott: https://www.marriott.com/ Hotwire: https://www.hotwire.com/ Priceline: https://www.priceline.com/ Booking.com: https://www.booking.com/ Hotels.com: https://www.hotels.com/ Connect with Dinaz Zaq: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rpcltd/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]

Sep 19, 202224 min

Blogcast #72: Discovered Value

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 10, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/discovered-value/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 16, 20223 min

Memecast #75: Ace of Diamonds: Banish the Word 'Commodity'

This one is the Ace of Diamonds from the Selling Value card deck. When companies or people inside companies say we sell a commodity, what that says to me is they don't understand the value of what they offer. It may absolutely be true that you sell a commodity-like product where we're selling gold coins and your gold coins are exactly the same as your competitor's gold coins. And we could think of that maybe as a commodity, but then that's really not what we're selling. What we have to sell are all the things that go around the gold coins or go around our commodity-like product. We should be thinking about what are the services? Can we do better delivery? Can we do better payment terms? Can we make our customers trust us more? Can we give them better advice? There are many, many different ways that we might be able to add value to our buyers above and beyond the individual product that we're selling. I often think that when people are saying the words, we sell a commodity or our product is a commodity, they've actually stopped thinking about how they're better than their competition. They've stopped thinking about what their buyers really care about. So, in my mind, there really is no such thing as a commodity and all companies should banish the word. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate these important concepts. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 14, 20222 min

How Pricing in the Broadcast Advertising Industry Works with Dominick Latorre

Dominick Latorre is the Senior Director of Yield and Inventory Management at Sinclair Broadcast Group. He used to be the Manager of Pricing and Planning at Spectrum Reach, and he's the Assistant General Manager of the Men's National Team in USA Ball Hockey. In this episode, Dominick explains how they price slots for broadcast advertisements as he relates it to how airlines do pricing for their seats. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Learn how Sinclair does pricing for perishable inventory like ads Understand how it's related to how airlines price their seats Find out why it's important that your sales people know how to make sure that your service is priced effectively "It's educating yourself on different industries outside of yours and how you can take those concepts and those ideas and apply them to your business. – Dominick Latorre Topics Covered: 02:01 – How Dominick got into pricing 04:12 – Sinclair's goal to improve efficiencies with the local pricing experts and revenue with pricing 06:41 – "It is not what I wanted. It's not what I wanted to buy." 09:25 – Relating and comparing how Sinclair does pricing to how airlines price their seats 14:46 – The factors that affect how Sinclair price the programs 18:38 – Pricing for political campaigns 23:01 – Pricing table topics: "Create real value with differentiation. Create perceived value with marketing." 25:36 – Dominick's pricing advice Key Takeaways: "I'm very happy with the choice I made back in 2007-ish to get into pricing, because as obviously as you know, it's the biggest driver of profit if you're priced correctly, so much more than sales volume or anything else." – Dominick Latorre "With the various choices for marketing dollars these days, you can't be upsetting clients and pulling multi-million-dollar deals because we weren't priced effectively and given them a rate that from day one it should have been a premium program; obviously, the demand is there. We should be charging it based upon that." – Dominick Latorre "You can drive more revenue by lowering your rates, and we've seen that in some cases." – Dominick Latorre "We talk to our sellers all the time. Sell the value of the program. Don't combine it with other solutions. Don't sell a customer what we call a 9A4P rotator, where basically that customer spot could fall anywhere between that time period. That's not selling value. Look at the value of our solutions and price accordingly to them." – Dominick Latorre "With so many marketing solutions out there and dollars to be spent, you have to make sure that you're priced effectively. And again, talking about value, making sure that the buyers see the value in your solution." – Dominick Latorre People / Resources Mentioned: Sinclair Broadcast Group: https://sbgi.net/ Professional Pricing Society: https://www.pricingsociety.com/ Connect with Dominick Latorre: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominicklatorre/ Email: [email protected] Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Sep 12, 202228 min

Blogcast #71: Perfect Pricing

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on August 3, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/perfect-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 9, 20223 min

Memecast #74: Ace of Clubs: 'Nobody Cares about Your Product'

This one is the Ace of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. One of my favorite sayings when I'm teaching is, nobody cares about your product. What's fascinating is when you look at a company's website or you look at how somebody wants to talk about what it is they're going to offer you, they want to talk about their product. I so much want to tell you, oh, I'm a pricing expert and I train people on pricing. But that's the product. What we really need to be doing is talking about the problems that our buyers have and the outcomes or the results they might be able to achieve. Experts are able to take our features and say, oh yeah, I get what that means to me. But most of our buyers aren't experts. What we need to be able to do is instead of talking about our product, talk about the problems that our buyers might have. I might go to a VP of sales and say, do your salespeople tend to discount too much too often? Now that's a problem. And if that resonates with this VP of sales, now we have something to talk about. But for me to walk in and say, I'm a pricing expert, and I teach salespeople how to sell value. That's all about me. And it only resonates if that person truly is an expert, and they have the problem. So, I love to say nobody cares about your product. What we have to be doing always is thinking about our buyers' problems and the results they might achieve. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This is also an example of how Pricing Table Topics works. Grab a deck of our cards, pull out a random card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. This will improve your understanding and more importantly, your ability to communicate these important concepts. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Sep 7, 20222 min

The How-To's of Utilizing Usage-Based Pricing and Discussion of Subscription Pricing Problems with Marcos Rivera

Marcos Rivera is the Founder and CEO of Pricing I/O, a training and coaching boutique helping high-growth B2B SaaS companies accelerate ARR growth and market share. Marcos was the Operating Executive for Product Management and Pricing of Vista Consulting Group, and is the author of the book "Street Pricing: A Pricing Playlist for Hip Leaders in SaaS". In this episode, Marcos shares his insights on some the common problems in the subscription industry. He also talks about the different ways to approach pricing adjustments in relation to software innovations, and discusses the hot topic of usage-based pricing. Why you have to check out today's podcast: Find out what the three biggest pricing problems are when it comes to subscription and know why you shouldn't do those Discover why people don't pay much attention on the expansion part of land and expand, and learn how to go for it if you want to Understand why it's a good step to raise prices on the subscribers with highest usage first "Go out there, get data, experiment and raise your confidence, and the pricing problem gets so much easier." – Marcos Rivera Topics Covered: 01:32 – How Marcos got into pricing 02:33 – Biggest pricing problems in subscriptions: (1) Pricing without aligning their package of value to their clients 04:00 – Why decoupling pricing and packaging is difficult 04:47 – Enhancing your pricing when introducing software innovations 06:31 – Biggest pricing problems in subscriptions: (2) Underpricing 09:08 – Biggest pricing problems in subscriptions: (3) Overcomplexity in the model 10:55 – People not focusing on the expansion part of the commonly used phrase in SaaS, "land and expand" 14:02 – Understanding usage data in providing better value to your product 16:17 – Getting things to levels of sophistication and sophistication at scale 18:29 – Where, when, and how to utilize usage-based pricing 24:38 – Pricing table topics: "Raise prices on the subscribers with highest usage first." 26:12 – Marcos' pricing advice Key Takeaways: "The way to start with pricing, especially if you already have an existing model and you're looking to enhance it, believe it or not, is not where most companies start, which is "how much should I charge with this new thing?" It's the first thing on their mind, the first question on their mind, but that question doesn't get answered until you understand how your value is being changed..." – Marcos Rivera "There's nothing wrong with land and expand, but what often happens is that it's mostly land and very little expand…. When you place so many of your chips on the land part of it, you start being overly generous with your limits or overly generous of what you're including. What ends up happening is you put so much of your expansion opportunity into the land that your expand opportunities are limited. Overly heavy on the land makes it tougher to expand." – Marcos Rivera "Be a little bit careful about over indexing on what they're doing in the system because you don't want to inadvertently discourage them from using the product." – Marcos Rivera "Value is not in the people using it. The value is in the machines doing, and the volume and frequency with which it's doing it." – Marcos Rivera "Remember, perceived value gets stronger and better with more usage. That correlation works out really well." – Marcos Rivera People / Resources Mentioned: Pricing I/O: https://www.pricingio.com/ Vista Consulting Group: https://vistacg.com/ Vista Equity Partners: https://www.vistaequitypartners.com/ Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/ Slack: https://slack.com/ Connect with Marcos Rivera: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcoslrivera/ Website:https://www.pricingio.com/ Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mailto:[email protected]

Sep 5, 202228 min