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Ep 460The Science of a Thriving Relationship | Rachel Glik

Can love alone sustain a relationship? Probably not. In this pseudo-Valentine’s Day episode, therapist Rachel Glik explores the pillars of a soulful marriage: personal growth, prioritization, and shared purpose. We unpack the “duck effect” of social media’s relationship illusions, the value of embracing friction for deeper connection, and how self-responsibility and communication can turn struggling relationships into thriving ones. Plus, Rachel shares insights from Kabbalah and psychotherapy—because love is in the air, and so is science! ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Relationships, Social Media, and the Duck Effect [6:00] Speed Round with Rachel Gilk [8:46] Exploring the Four Pillars of a Soulful Marriage [15:40] Embracing Friction: Why Conflict is a Growth Opportunity [22:00] The Role of Kabbalah in Relationships [35:00] Practical Tips for Enhancing Relationships [40:50] The Love Seat Method [50:13] Music Preferences [1:00:00] Grooving Session: Love, Communication, and Personal Growth ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Links Rachel Glik A Soulful Marriage: Healing Your Relationship with Responsibility, Growth, Priority, and Purpose Duck Syndrome Musical Links Joni Mitchell - Big Yellow Taxi Maggie Rogers - Fallingwater Angus & Julia Stone - Big Jet Plane

Feb 10, 20251h 13m

Ep 459Why Is Everyone So Angry? The Science of Outrage | Kurt Gray

Why do we see some people as victims and others as villains? Kurt Gray joins us to explore moral typecasting, the prey vs. predator mindset, and why harm is at the heart of all moral debates—whether it’s immigration, free speech, or gun rights. We uncover how our evolutionary instincts shape outrage and polarization and discuss practical strategies for bridging moral divides with personal stories instead of statistics. Topics [0:00] Moral Typecasting and Its Implications [6:47] Intro to Kurt Gray and Speed Round [10:30] Understanding Outrage and Moral Foundations [18:30] Evolutions of Moral Psychology and Harm [30:55] Moral Typecasting and Its Impact [37:30] The Power of Personal Stories [46:00] Practical Tips for Navigating Moral Discussions [53:27] Grooving Session: Empathy, Understanding, and Discussing Divides ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Links Kurt Gray Outrage: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground Behavioral Grooves YouTube Channel Join our Groove Community on Facebook! Musical Links Daft Punk – Tron Legacy Soundtrack My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade Bach - Trumpet Voluntary

Feb 3, 20251h 14m

Ep 458Turn a Negative Trait into Your Greatest Strength | Jenny Wood

What if personality traits deemed “negative” were actually the key to success? In this captivating conversation, former Google exec and author of Wild Courage, Jenny Wood, challenges us to redefine traits like “weird,” “selfish,” and even “manipulative” into powerful strengths. Discover how “nosiness” can spark meaningful connections, “brutal honesty” can establish essential boundaries, and strategic “window-gazing” can unlock breakthroughs in work and life. With humor, actionable tips, and even a surprising oatmeal cookie recipe, this episode will help you embrace your unique path to success. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Introduction [2:07] Speed Round with Jenny Wood [4:34] Jenny’s experience with Wild Courage [16:52] Challenging Traditional Definitions of Traits [23:03] Practical Applications of Traits in the Workplace [39:38] The Importance of Being Brutal [43:23] Playing to Win [50:34] Grooving Session: The Role of Language and Cultural Shifts ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Links Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It by Jenny Wood Jenny Wood Musical Links Lin-Manuel Miranda - The Room Where It Happens Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars Pink Floyd - The Great Gig in The Sky

Jan 27, 20251h 12m

Ep 457Groove Jams: Inside the Creation of Rock’s Greatest Albums

If you’ve ever wondered what puts the “Groove” in Behavioral Grooves, this episode has the answer! We’re diving headfirst into the mesmerizing world of music with the legendary John Bargh to tackle the ultimate question: If you could sit in on the recording of any album in history, which one would you choose? From the legendary sessions at Island Records to the eternal brilliance of Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven, we explore the artistry, spontaneity, and sheer magic behind music’s most iconic moments. Whether you’re a die-hard classic rock fan or just curious about the creative process, this episode will take you straight to the heart of music’s golden age. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves We Made a Playlist for You! Check out all the artists we discussed this week, here

Jan 23, 202541 min

Ep 456The Data and Influence Behind Your Digital Footprint | Sandra Matz

What if every digital interaction you had—every like, purchase, or GPS ping—could be used to create a detailed map of who you are? Sandra Matz, a leading behavioral scientist and data researcher, joins us to explore the fascinating world of behavioral residue, the digital traces we leave behind, and their profound impact on our lives. This episode is a deep dive into the intersection of psychology, technology, and ethics, offering thought-provoking ideas for anyone interested in the future of data and its role in shaping our behavior and society. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] - Introduction to Sandra Matz and the concept of behavioral residue. [4:46] - Speed Round with Sandra Matz [10:20] - Algorithms vs. human predictions of behavior. [28:11] - How marketing firms adopted psychological profiling. [34:56] - Personalized ads: A 55% increase in purchases. [40:04] - Using data to improve savings habits and mental health. [44:52] - The concept of echo chamber swaps to reduce polarization. [49:30] - What lies ahead: Regulation, data co-ops, and taming the digital storm. [55:18] - Desert Island Music [57:59] - Grooving Session: Asking for more control over personal data. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Links Sandra Matz Mindmasters: The Data-Driven Science of Predicting and Changing Human Behavior The Open Data Institute Check Your Digital Footprint! Musical Links Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) Kolektiv Turmstrasse - Sorry I Am Late Linkin Park - The Emptiness Machine

Jan 20, 20251h 22m

Ep 454Behavioral Science Hacks for Everyday Life | Eva van den Broek and Tim den Heijer

How can a tiny fly in an airport urinal transform human behavior? This week, we sit down with Eva van den Broek and Tim den Heijer, authors of The Housefly Effect, to uncover how subtle environmental cues can shape our decisions in powerful and surprising ways. With Eva’s expertise in behavioral economics and Tim’s background in advertising, they reveal the fascinating impact nudges have on our daily lives. From casino design to placebo crosswalk buttons, the world around us is filled with real-life applications of behavioral science that influence our behavior—even when we know they’re at play. Join us for practical tips, captivating stories, and thought-provoking insights into how these small interventions can make a big difference in your life. So sit back, relax, and discover the invisible forces of behavioral science all around you. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro - Flies in Urinals? [6:57] Speed Round with Eva and Tim [10:58] Exploring the House Fly Effect [22:07] Why Knowing About Nudges Doesn’t Stop Them [32:20] Regulating Nudges in Online Casinos [41:36] Personal Applications of Behavioral Science [50:37] Desert Island Music [56:17] Grooving Session: The Bigger Picture of Behavioral Science ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Links The Housefly Effect: How Nudge Psychology Steers Your Everyday Behaviour Illusion of control: Why the world is full of buttons that don’t work Have You Been Nudged? Musical Links David Bowie - Space Oddity Prince - When Doves Cry Arooj Aftab - Mehram Benjamin Britten - Mozart: Symphony No. 25 in G minor, K.183 - 1. Allegro con brio

Jan 13, 20251h 8m

Ep 455Kickstart the New Year and Achieve Your Goals | Ayelet Fishbach

Happy New Year, Groovers! The start of a new year often brings fresh goals, ambitious resolutions, and a renewed sense of motivation. But what’s the psychology behind this goal-oriented mindset? In our first episode of the year, we’re joined by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach, a renowned expert in behavioral science, to explore the science of achieving goals and rethink the traditional belief that success is all about willpower. Whether you’re a leader looking to energize your team, a professional pursuing career aspirations, or someone striving to stay on track with personal resolutions, this episode will inspire you to think differently about motivation. Discover how to align your efforts with purpose, make progress more enjoyable, and build lasting momentum to achieve meaningful goals in the year ahead. ©2025 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Motivation and Willpower - a New Perspective with Ayelet Fishbach [3:19] The Marshmallow Test and Its Misinterpretation [7:52] Meta Motivation and Its Implications [14:28] The Role of Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation [18:17] Problems Around Goal Achievement [32:41] The Important of Aspirational Goals [42:58] Strategies for Overcoming the Problem of "the Middle" [48:33] Key Takeaways Links Get It Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation Motivation Isn’t About Being Strong, It’s About Being Wise Understanding the Power of Intrinsic Motivation NIH: Intrinsic Motivation

Jan 6, 202553 min

Ep 453Building Better Conversations | David Robson [Republish]

Happy Holidays from Behavioral Grooves! We're taking a week off to get ready for all the new and exciting content we have in store for our listeners coming in 2025. If you'd like to help us make next year's show amazing please help us by filling out the Behavioral Grooves survey here! In the meantime, please enjoy this republish of one of our favorite episode this year, enjoy! How can we turn disagreements into opportunities for growth and connection? In this episode, Kurt and Tim dive into the science of meaningful conversations with David Robson, author of The Laws of Connection. Together, they explore how to deepen our understanding and build stronger connections with the people around us. Disagreements don’t have to signal the end of a conversation. Instead, with compassionate curiosity and a willingness to listen, we can turn them into constructive dialogues that bridge divides. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] A message from Tim [3:05] Welcome back, David! [5:27] Intro and speed round [10:05] Misconceptions about connecting with strangers [16:59] The importance of social connections [25:43] The art of successful conversation [31:09] Creating a shared reality [34:44] Effective communication strategies for disagreements [38:42] Using personal experience to persuade others [42:17] Effective feedback delivery [53:55] Grooving session: Building connections, overcoming fear, and improving relationships © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Kwame Christian’s “Compassionate Curiosity” approach Trotsky’s principle on empathy and statistics The Laws of Connection David Robson Music Links Judy Collins - Spellbound Taylor Swift - Fortnight West Side Story - America

Dec 30, 20241h 15m

Ep 4522024's Best Books to Transform Work, Life, and Thinking

Want to help us improve Behavioral Grooves? Take our listener survey here! Looking for your next great read? We’ve got you covered! It’s time for our annual Best Books episode, where we share the standout reads that inspired and informed us this year. We’ve organized our picks into four categories—Leadership, Work Life, Relationships, and Critical Thinking—to help you find the perfect book for your personal or professional journey. Whether you’re looking for fresh ideas, practical insights, or even a last-minute gift, this curated list has something for everyone. Join us as we explore the year’s most impactful reads and get ready to turn the page on some life-changing ideas! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Welcome back to Best Books! [2:37] Best Books for Leadership [11:56] Best Books for Work Life [19:23] Best Books for Relationships [30:05] Best Books for Critical Thinking [43:18] Wrap up - Happy Holidays from Behavioral Grooves! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Both and Thinking by Wendy Smith and Marianne Lewis The Friction Project by Huggy Rao and Robert Sutton Likable Badass by Alison Green Is Your Work Worth It? by Christopher Michaelson and Jennifer Tosti-Kharas Burnout Immunity by Kandi Wiens The Ritual Effect by Mike Norton Tightwads and Spendthrifts by Scott Rick The Laws of Connection by David Robson 12 Questions for Love by Topaz Adizes May Contain Lies by Alex Edmonds You Only Die Once by Jody Wellman Third Millennium Thinking by Saul Perlmutter, Robert M. Coon, and John Campbell A Year of Living Constitutionally by AJ Jacobs Musical Links Kurt's Song of the Year: Ren - Money Ties Tim's Song of the Year: Lake Street Dive - Nick of Time

Dec 23, 202446 min

Ep 451Groove Jams: Hypothetical Hangouts – Who Would You Choose?

If you could spend a whole day with any historical figure, who would it be—and why? In this solo-sode of Groove Jams, we dive into this fascinating question, blending philosophy, psychology, and a bit of fun as we unpack our companion picks. From deep questions to unexpected lessons, we explore the impact of history’s iconic figures and the timeless wisdom they could offer. Who would you choose? Tune in for a playful and thought-provoking journey into the "what ifs" of history. Check out the video version of this episode on YouTube! Want to win a free book? Write us a review, screenshot it, and send it to our producer [email protected] for your chance to win!

Dec 19, 202415 min

Ep 450Toxic Productivity Is Sabotaging Your Success | Israa Nasir

What happens when the pursuit of productivity begins to harm your health, relationships, and happiness? In this episode, Israa Nasir joins us to discuss Toxic Productivity—the unhealthy obsession with achievement that can take a toll on your well-being. She outlines key warning signs, like disengagement and emotional dysregulation, and explores how societal pressures perpetuate this cycle. But it’s possible to break free. Israa shares practical strategies for reconnecting with your motivations, setting boundaries, and cultivating a healthier, more balanced relationship with productivity. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Want to win a free book? Write us a review, screenshot it, and send it to our producer [email protected] for your chance to win! Topics [0:00] Introduction and a Behavioral Grooves giveaway! [6:59] Speed Round with Israa Nasir [12:36] Red Flags of Toxic Productivity [18:04] Slowing Down to Speed Up [24:47] Generational and Social Influences [30:07] Myths of Productivity [35:00] Emotional Awareness and Self-Reflection [45:23] Practical Advice for Avoiding Toxic Productivity [53:01] Desert Island Music [57:50] Grooving Session: Awareness, slowing down, and finding balance ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Take the Behavioral Grooves Survey! More About Israa Toxic Productivity: Reclaim Your Time and Emotional Energy in a World That Always Demands More The Spotlight Effect and Social Anxiety Let’s End Toxic Productivity Musical Links Ella Fitzgerald - Summertime John Mayer - Free Fallin’ Ghazal Music - Rafta Rafta Wo Meri

Dec 16, 20241h 13m

Ep 449What If There’s a Better Way to Solve Your Hardest Problems? | Wendy Smith

Have you ever felt stuck between two seemingly opposite choices or found yourself seeing the world in absolutes? This week, we’re joined by Dr. Wendy Smith, author of Both/And Thinking, to uncover how embracing paradoxes can help us tackle life’s toughest problems. Wendy shares how shifting from an “either/or” to a “both/and” mindset can unlock better decision-making, foster creativity, and provide solutions to today’s complex challenges—from personal dilemmas to organizational leadership. In our Grooving Session, we dive deeper into the concept of “both/and” thinking and explore its applications in leadership, personal decision-making, and workplace dynamics. We examine the evolutionary roots of black-and-white thinking and discuss why embracing nuance is more important than ever in our interconnected world. Whether you’re navigating hybrid work policies, parenting challenges, or major life decisions, this perspective offers a fresh lens to solve problems both big and small. The easiest choice you’ll make today? Saying yes to this episode! Join us for an insightful conversation with Wendy and find out why even ice cream dilemmas are worth a second thought. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Introduction - Ice Cream Dilemmas and Both/And Thinking [6:14] Speed round with Wendy Smith [14:22] Understanding Paradoxes and Both/And Thinking [23:19] Practical Applications of Both/And Thinking [33:25] Challenges and Emotional Complexity [40:12] Using Both/And Thinking in Leadership and Personal Life [45:58] Desert Island Music [47:42] Grooving Session: How to Embrace Both/And Thinking in Your Everyday Life ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems Wendy Smith, PhD Thinking, Fast and Slow - Daniel Kahneman What is Both/And Thinking? Musical Links The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go Wicked - Defying Gravity

Dec 9, 20241h 9m

Ep 448The Influence Equation: Simple Steps to Persuade Better | Steve Martin

How can the science of persuasion reshape your workplace? This week, we sit down with Steve Martin to discuss the principles behind his latest book, Influence at Work, and unpack the “influence equation”—a powerful framework that blends evidence, economics, and emotion to drive ethical and effective persuasion. Steve shares actionable strategies for crafting influence, highlighting how small tweaks in incentives and timing can lead to surprising and meaningful behavioral shifts. We also dive into why behavioral insights shouldn’t be confined to a single department. Steve argues for embedding these principles across an organization, emphasizing how doing so can elevate decision-making, foster collaboration, and drive positive outcomes at every level. Whether you're leading a team, managing a project, or navigating workplace dynamics, this conversation is packed with actionable wisdom to help you integrate behavioral science into your day-to-day decisions and harness the power of influence for good. Tune in to learn how understanding and applying these insights can transform not just your organization, but your role within it. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro: The Power of Influence in Behavioral Science [3:51] Speed Round with Steve Martin [10:56] The Influence Equation and its Applications [17:12] Everyday Applications of Behavioral Science [35:41] The Role of Emotion and Timing in Influence [42:35] Desert Island Music [46:21] Grooving Session: Influence, the Importance of Incentives, and the Future of Behavioral Science ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Influence At Work: Capture attention, connect with others, convince people to act About Steve Martin Global Association of Applied Behavioral Scientists Influence by Robert Cialdini Musical Links ELO - Mr. Blue Sky New Order - Blue Monday The Beatles - Come Together

Dec 2, 20241h 10m

Ep 447Stress-Busting Tips for the Holidays (and Beyond!)

Between job uncertainty, political tension, holiday anxiety, and the general state of the world, stress and emotional exhaustion are at an all-time high. In this special ‘emergency episode’ ahead of the holidays, we break down why humans often unintentionally create stress through perception—and how our brain’s negativity bias amplifies it. As you prep your holiday meal, tune in for science-backed strategies to reduce stress, from naming emotions and reframing self-talk to cultivating gratitude. We’ll also explore the power of healthy habits like sleep, exercise, and digital detoxes, plus how social connections—whether with loved ones or strangers—can help build resilience. Later in the episode, producer Caroline shares her inspiring journey fostering rescue dogs and how it strengthened her sense of purpose and self-efficacy during tough times. Join us for this timely discussion, and connect with the Groove Community on Facebook to share your own stress-busting tips. Wishing you a happy and healthy Thanksgiving! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Emotional exhaustion and stressors [5:25] Coping with stress and emotional awaredness [15:27] Gratitude and journaling practices [26:08] Healthy habits and reducing stress [34:58] Social connection and purpose [39:51] Volunteering and personal growth [45:12] Conclusion: Managing stress and finding community ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Daily Shift Journal Join our Groove Community! “A Life Worth Breathing” by Max Strom Follow Caroline’s Foster Journeys!

Nov 27, 202448 min

Ep 446The Simple Shift That Transforms Employee Engagement | Brad Shuck

What makes a workplace truly thrive? This week, Brad Shuck returns to share how practicing gratitude as an intentional discipline can transform employee engagement and appreciation. We dive into Brad’s three key factors driving workplace culture and productivity, exploring real-world examples illustrating how companies can breathe new life into struggling cultures. Brad challenges the traditional approach to workplace morale—hint: pizza parties won’t cut it. He emphasizes that culture isn’t a top-down directive; it grows from the ground up. While managers and team leaders may not control the entire organizational culture, their influence at the team level is powerful. They play a vital role in fostering belonging and purpose for employees. If you’re ready to spark a workplace revolution—one where employees feel safe to speak up, innovation thrives, and gratitude becomes second nature—tune in to hear Brad’s firsthand strategies for transforming your company culture today. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro - Gratitude in corporate culture [5:35] Speed Round with Brad Shuck [10:54] The role of gratitude in organizational success [14:42] What role do leaders play in shaping culture? [22:31] The challenges of cultivating gratitude in a fast-paced work culture [37:18] Desert Island Music [41:02] Grooving Session: Work, gratitude, and psychological safety ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Brad Shuck Studies by Brad (et al…) Above the Line vs Below the Line Leadership What is Psychological Safety? Musical Links Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah Mumford & Sons - Ghosts That We Knew Woody Guthrie - Tear the Fascists Down

Nov 25, 202454 min

Ep 445Groove Jams: Immortality–Blessing or Curse?

What would you do differently if you could live for 1,000 years? In this episode of Groove Jams, we’re joined by fan-favorite Annie Duke to dive headfirst into the wild possibilities of a much longer life. The conversation kicks off with a controversial babysitting prank that sparked Annie’s lifelong fear of death, leading to a lively debate about how immortality could reshape society. Would 80-year-old presidents be no big deal? Would archaeology become the most boring subject ever? Join us as we unravel ethical dilemmas, debate questionable life choices, and find out if Annie can finally conquer her fear of mortality. Don’t wait 1,000 years to tune in—hit play now while it’s still relevant!

Nov 21, 202425 min

Ep 444The Downside of Dream Jobs | Jennifer Totsi-Kharas

This week, we continue exploring jobs, careers, and callings with Jen Totsi-Kharas, co-author of Is Your Work Worth It? For a deeper dive into this topic, check out our conversation with Jen’s co-author, Christopher Michaelson, on last week’s episode! We sit down with Jen to explore the complex nature of work and how it can be defined as a job, career, or calling, with a particular focus on the potential downsides people face when they try and pursue their “callings”. While having a strong calling can boost engagement and life satisfaction, it also has its risks, including over-commitment, burnout, and a disconnection from the practical realities of one’s career. Discover who has stronger work satisfaction - orchestral musicians or prison guards, and explore how expectations and daily demands shape well-being across professions. Together with Jen, we discuss how calling can change over time and the importance of self-discovery in aligning work with personal values and aspirations. There is value in finding meaningful work, even if it’s not a perfect calling, and Jen helps us explore the need for a balanced approach that considers both passion and practicality in our career choices. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro: Dream job or prison guard? [4:44] Speed Round with Jen Totsi-Kharas [10:17] Happiness in “callings” vs. “jobs” [15:27] The benefits and downsides of callings [29:46] The difference between callings and jobs [34:42] The role of callings in different professions [40:44] The importance of finding meaningful work [46:37] Grooving session: understanding the nuances of work satisfaction ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Jennifer Tosti-Kharas Is Your Work Worth It?: How to Think About Meaningful Work Zookeepers, Callings, and the Double-edged Sword of Deeply Meaningful Work Musical Links Indigo Girls Closer to Fine Tori Amos Cornflake Girl (Live)

Nov 18, 20241h 10m

Ep 443The Truth About Work and Life Balance | Christopher Michaelson

Is Your Job a Calling or a Burden? This week, we jump into the deep and sometimes challenging question: what role does work play in a meaningful life? Christopher Michaelson, one of the co-authors of Is Your Work Worth It? joins us to explore the philosophical and practical aspects of how we view work—as a job, a career, or a calling—and the impacts each perspective can have on our sense of purpose and fulfillment. While a calling can give us profound motivation, Christopher warns that it can also lead to burnout and even exploitation. One of the most poignant moments in our conversation reflects on research from 9/11, which reveals that for two-thirds of the victims, work was not a defining element in their life stories. This insight reminds us of the importance of balancing work with other meaningful aspects of life. Christopher also shares insights from his personal family history and invites us to redefine success beyond professional or financial achievements. Together, we consider how our “90-year-old self” might view the decisions we make about work and purpose today, and how these choices impact our journey toward a balanced life. Join us as we dig into the importance of examining our relationship to work to ensure it truly aligns with our broader life goals and values. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro [4:11] Speed round [12:32] Exploring the nature of work [22:40] Is having “a calling” a bad thing? [36:24] Redefining success [48:30] Desert island music [53:48] Grooving Session: Work-life balance and living in the moment ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Is Your Work Worth It?: How to Think About Meaningful Work Christopher Michaelson 9/11 Portraits of Grief Project Musical Links Phillip Glass “Prophecies” Allison Russell “Nightflyer” Boy Genius “Not Strong Enough

Nov 11, 20241h 9m

Ep 442Democracy at the Crossroads: Beyond Party Lines

Has Behavioral Grooves turned into a political podcast? Not really (ok, maybe kinda it has - but for just a few weeks, we promise ). With the 2024 election days away, however, it’s felt nearly unavoidable for many people, including us. Attending the Norms and Behavior Change Conference (NoBeC), titled, Democracy Under Threat, sparked some essential thoughts and insights that we feel compelled to share. Democracy relies on fragile social norms that are under serious threat right now. From startling statistics about the rise of autocracies worldwide to the surge in misinformation, it’s clear that a renewed commitment to democratic norms is needed now more than ever. So, here’s a crucial question for all of us to consider: Is party loyalty more important than the stability of our democracy? Join us to rethink democracy—not just as a system but as a collective responsibility – bound together by shared beliefs. Your voice matters, your vote is essential, and together, we can help fortify democracy. If you don’t have a plan for where and when you’re going to vote, put one together. Get a friend to vote with you. You may feel disenfranchised or fatigued or angry or sad…just make sure you vote. And put a happy spin on your voting experience: celebrate the fact that we can vote by baking an election cake (or election pie or even election cookies) to bring to the polls! Democracy is fragile, please treat it with respect. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Special Thanks to: Cristina Bicchieri, Kaushik Basu, Diana Mutz, Gretchen Helmke, Horacio Larreguy, Christoph Abels, Ryan Enos, Robert Talisse, Giulia Maimone, Erik Groenendyk, Nikos Nikiforkis, Cesar Nuñez, Karine Nyborg, Jan Voelkel and Ryan Enos for their participation in NoBeC and their fascinating research! Topics [0:08] Understanding Democracy and Social Norms [3:07] The Fragility of Democracy [9:34] Polarization and Media Influence [17:43] The Role of Political Elites [19:55] Gratitude and Closing Thoughts ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Find Your Polling Place Polarization Series Center for Social Norms and Behavioral Dynamics Cristina Bicchieri Kaushik Basu Diana Mutz Gretchen Helmke Horacio Larreguy Christoph Abels Ryan Enos Robert Talisse Giulia Maimone Erik Groenendyk Nikos Nikiforkis Cesar Nuñez Karine Nyborg Jan Voelkel

Nov 4, 202422 min

Ep 441Get Out and Vote!

A special message from Kurt and Tim, all the way from Philadelphia: November 5th is fast approaching, and now, more than ever, participating in democracy matters. Casting your vote isn’t just a civic duty—it’s a way to find your groove in American democracy. Tune in to this short episode for practical advice and inspiration to make your vote count, and join in celebrating the great American experiment!

Nov 1, 20247 min

Groove Jams: We're Throwing Out the US Constitution!

What if you could give the U.S. Constitution a makeover? Ahead of the 2024 U.S. election, AJ Jacobs joins Kurt and Tim to dive into the lighter side of politics, taking a playful look at what really needs fixing in America’s founding documents (hint: it starts with grammar). While the spelling of Pennsylvania is no longer up for debate, the trio tackles plenty of other things that could — and maybe should — be changed for the better. What does the 2nd Amendment really mean? Should cabinet members have veto power? Are we missing out on some much-needed retirement parties for Supreme Court justices? Tune in to Groove Jams for a lively conversation and share your thoughts! After all, it’s a free country! Want to watch along? Check out the video version on YouTube

Oct 31, 202425 min

Ep 440How Can We Revive Our Democracy? | AJ Jacobs

Ahead of the 2024 US Election, Kurt and Tim sit down with bestselling author and serial experimenter AJ Jacobs to discuss his latest project, The Year of Living Constitutionally. AJ spent a year living life according to the principles of the U.S. Constitution, adopting 18th-century customs along the way. From wearing tricorn hats and writing with quill pens to exploring the deeper philosophical underpinnings of democracy, AJ brings history to life while reflecting on the balance between rights and responsibilities, a concept that feels more urgent than ever today. AJ also shares his mission to revive one of America’s sweetest (and largely forgotten) traditions—Election Cakes! In the 1700s, Election Day was a festival of civic pride, complete with parades, music, and community-baked cakes shared at the polls. In true AJ fashion, he’s on a quest to bring this tradition back, reminding us that democracy can be both a serious and joyful act. Throughout the episode, AJ, Kurt, and Tim dive into the importance of ‘epistemic humility’ - aka, the acknowledgment that we don’t have all the answers and must remain open to learning. From Benjamin Franklin’s introspection to modern-day challenges of misinformation, AJ challenges listeners to approach life and democracy with curiosity, gratitude, and a willingness to improve both ourselves and our society. So grab a slice of election cake (or pie!) and join us for this thought-provoking, timely conversation on what it means to live constitutionally. Need help finding a voting location near you? Check here! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Election day traditions [4:25] Speed round with AJ Jacobs [9:44] Living Colonially: What I learned [18:56] Epistemic humility and political perspectives [23:52] Constitutional originalism [36:29] How do we frame the constitution? [40:40] Election cakes and celebrating democracy [48:52] Embracing experimentation in everyday life [52:56] Grooving session: open-mindedness, civic duty, and cake recipes ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Join our Facebook Group! AJ’s Substack The Year of Living Constitutionally More about AJ The History of Election Cakes The US Constitution Musical Links Royal American Medley - Songs of the Revolutionary War Yankee Doodle

Oct 28, 20241h 11m

Ep 439The Loneliness Epidemic: Why Are We Avoiding Social Interactions? | Nick Epley

Why do we avoid the very thing that could bring us more joy—connecting with others? In this episode, behavioral scientist and human interaction expert Nick Epley returns to the podcast to help Kurt and Tim explore the paradox of social connection. Despite living in a time often described as a loneliness epidemic, many of us still choose to limit our social interactions and shy away from new experiences. While we’re hardwired to thrive on positive connections, anxiety and inaccurate assumptions often hold us back. Nick sheds light on why we consistently underestimate how enjoyable social interactions will be—and how this leads to missed opportunities for meaningful connection. Drawing from his research at Chicago’s Mindworks facility, where people from all walks of life participate in behavioral experiments, Nick shares fascinating insights into our social nature. His team’s real-world studies have uncovered how our expectations and assumptions can prevent us from fully engaging in new social experiences. Tune in to learn how our beliefs can shape our social lives and how curiosity and openness can transform any interaction into something rewarding. Nick offers practical advice on how behavioral science can help us lead more connected, fulfilling lives. And hey, next time you’re getting your morning coffee, say hi to the barista—you never know where that small interaction might lead! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro: Connecting with strangers [9:50] Nick Epley and Mindworks research facility [23:16] Experiments at Mindworks [30:55] Insights from social interaction experiments [39:34] The role of expectations in social interactions [47:01] How to create positive interactions [51:18] Grooving session: Curiosity, compassion, and engaging with strangers ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Mindworks About Nick Epley Mistakenly Seeking Solitude Join our Facebook Group!

Oct 21, 20241h 5m

S1 Ep 1Groove Jams: History’s Biggest What-ifs

Ever wondered what it would be like to snag a backstage pass to history’s biggest moments? In Groove Jams' maiden voyage, Kurt, Tim, and special guest Christian Hunt take on the ultimate bucket list item: time travel. Prepare for a wild ride that’s part history lesson, part “what could possibly go wrong?” Tune in for a rollercoaster of laughs, deep thoughts, and ethical dilemmas as we explore the slippery slope of time-hopping. What are the risks and rewards? Could curiosity lead to chaos? And most importantly, could we save the Beatles from Yoko Ono?

Oct 17, 202438 min

Ep 438Top Secrets to Customer Success | Arsanas Savas and Dave Norton

Co-hosts, meet co-creation! This week, Kurt and Tim are joined by special guests Aransas Savas and Dave Norton, hosts of the Experience Strategy Podcast. Together, they take on one of the biggest challenges companies face: truly understanding what their customers want and need. Data can be valuable, but how useful is it if you don’t fully grasp the “what” or “why” behind those numbers? Aransas and Dave explain why co-creating with customers is a more effective approach than relying solely on data or assumptions. They dive into how blending behavioral science with experience strategy can create lasting value for both customers and companies, while also breaking through common barriers like internal fears, egos, and dreaded groupthink (shudder). Listen in to discover how experience strategy complements behavior change and why clinging to past successes can lead to blind spots in a rapidly evolving market. Ready to take your customer experience strategy to the next level? Tune in and join the conversation—because the future of your business depends on truly understanding your customers. And share your thoughts with Kurt and Tim in our new Facebook Group! © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here Topics [0:00] Introduction: Customer needs and preferences [3:14] Housekeeping: BG Updates! [5:29] Speed Round [9:35] Customer trends and the importance of outside perspectives [20:51] Challenges in engaging customers and the role of behavior change [26:42] Common pitfalls to avoid [30:30] Grooving session: customer engagement, listening, and considering needs © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links The Experience Strategy Podcast Subscribe to our YouTube for Groove Jams! Join our Groove Community!

Oct 14, 202448 min

Coming Soon: Groove Jams!

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And now, the moment we’ve all been waiting for (even if you didn’t know you were waiting)... Introducing Groove Jams! Tim and Kurt are launching an exciting new video-first mini-series where they dive into wild hypothetical scenarios and tackle thought-provoking questions about human behavior—and so much more. With help from some fan-favorite guests, each episode kicks off with an intriguing question that pushes the limits of imagination and reveals fresh perspectives on the world. Get ready for laughs, “aha” moments, and maybe even a few WTFs, every few weeks starting this October! Subscribe on YouTube to be the First to See Groove Jams!

Oct 11, 20241 min

Ep 437Top Tips to Transform Your Business | Scott Young

Now…back to work! We’re back to the weekly grind this week on Behavioral Grooves and exploring a topic Kurt and Tim know like the back of their hands - Behavioral Science in the workplace. Joined by Scott Young, a seasoned behavioral science practitioner with years of experience in the private sector, they dive into how we can improve work environments by tweaking work policies rather than replacing them entirely. Scott shares insights from his work and a recent paper he authored for the Behavioral Science Policy Association about the real-world challenges behavioral science practitioners face when working with large corporations. From defining behavior change to navigating organization resistance, the trio explore the challenges of their work and offer practical solutions to overcome these barriers. Throughout the conversation, Scott walks listeners through a multi-step process for workplace success, focusing on defining goals, understanding content, ideating interventions, and rigorously testing solutions. Tune in for a roadmap for business leaders on how to leverage these concepts effectively by aligning them with existing challenges and integrating them into everyday operations. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro and Behavioral Grooves announcements! [7:39] Speed round with Scott Young [11:41] Behavioral science in the real world [15:10] Potential of behavioral science in business [21:41] Challenges to applying behavioral science in the real world [31:02] How to frame behavioral science to business leaders [36:50] Solutions and looking to the future [41:59] Desert Island music [46:18] Grooving Session: Integrating behavioral science into organizations © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Bridging the Divide - Scott's Paper BeScy.org BASF commercial BSPA Join our Facebook Group! Join the Patreon! Musical Links Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing Counting Crows - Hanginaround

Oct 7, 202459 min

Ep 437Breaking the Cycle of Polarization: What You Can Do for the 2024 Election

So…is there hope? Kurt and Tim think so! In this wrap-up of our polarization series, Kurt and Tim reflect on how much the political landscape has changed since they started recording last December. With the presidential campaign in full swing and November’s election approaching, it’s more important than ever to critically evaluate the news and information we consume. In this quick, engaging episode, they revisit the most impactful ideas from their conversations with researchers. From “nut-picking”—focusing on extreme examples of the opposing side—to the challenge of living in a fragmented reality, Kurt and Tim discuss how we can push back against the media’s efforts to keep us divided. Instead, they urge us to focus on bridging divides and coming together for the sake of democracy. Polarization is powerful, but it’s not unbreakable. So, stay informed, talk to each other, and most importantly—register to vote! Links Register to Vote! Ep. 434 – What’s Really Driving Political Polarization? The Science Explained Ep. 435 - Are We Acting Differently Because of Politics? Here’s What the Research Shows Ep. 436 - A Less Polarized Future: Real Solutions to Heal Our Divided World

Oct 5, 202415 min

Ep 437A Less Polarized Future: Real Solutions to Heal Our Divided World

In the final episode of the polarization series, Kurt and Tim delve into "affective polarization," where emotional distrust, rather than ideological differences, has deepened the divide between political parties. Drawing on insights from the recent MIT conference, they explore how these negative feelings have escalated over time. Stanford postdoc Jan Voelkl shares eye-opening research showing a marked decline in positive feelings across party lines over the past few decades. But there's hope on the horizon! Kurt and Tim explore proven interventions aimed at reducing polarization by fostering cooperation and shared identities. Through game-based approaches and collaborative strategies, they demonstrate that cross-party cooperation is not only possible but achievable. Featured researcher Josh Green explains how his game-based method helps bridge the partisan divide, offering an optimistic outlook for improving political discourse. The duo also speaks with Kati Kish Bar-On, a postdoc at MIT, who provides a philosophical perspective on polarization and how we engage with one another, while Yph Lelkes offers historical context and a dose of optimism for the future based on the 2022 election results. The series concludes with a compassionate, forward-thinking conversation, offering practical strategies to critically assess polarized messaging and steps toward healing the growing political divide. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Introduction: A final look at polarization [4:07] Hope for American democracy - Jan Voelkl [12:23] Game-based interventions - Josh Greene [20:28] Polarization: a philosophical perspective - Kati Kish Bar-On [28:28] History and hope: Yph Lelkes [31:54] Grooving session - America, democracy, and critical thinking [41:30] BONUS TRACK: Young scientists look at polarization - Miles and Isaac Rand © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Kati Kish Bar-on Jan Voelkl Josh Greene Yph Lelkes Register to Vote Here!

Oct 2, 202455 min

Ep 436Are We Acting Differently Because of Politics? Here’s What the Research Shows

Why do we so easily form ‘us vs. them’ mentalities, and how does it impact our society? In the second part of this series, Kurt and Tim dive into the psychological roots of polarization, starting with the famous Robbers Cave Experiment. They explore how easily group identities and loyalties form, even among strangers, and how this translates into in-group loyalty and out-group hostility. The discussion expands to cover the role geography plays in shaping political views, as explained by researchers like Ryan Enos from Harvard. There’s also a compelling conversation with Ryan about whether polarization is truly worsening or if we’re just more aware of it due to better data. Kurt and Tim then turn to economists who have studied how our political identities drive us to make decisions that sometimes go against our own interests. Kwabena Donkor from Stanford and Andrea Robbett from Middlebury College tee up studies to disentangle our preferences from our beliefs and they use clever, money-based studies to do so. Eugen Dimant, from the University of Pennsylvania, examines the societal impact of polarization, from trust and cooperation to the functioning of democratic institutions. The conversation underscores the complexity of polarization and the diverse approaches needed to fully understand and address its consequences. Tune in for deeper insights into the forces shaping our divided world. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Robbers Cave Experiment [2:42] MIT’s PolarizationSeries [3:48] Geography and Polarization: Ryan Enos [14:46] Beliefs and Preferences: Kwabena Donkor [23:07] The Comorbidities of Polarization: Eugen Dimant [34:44] Affective Polarization: Andrea Robett [39:15] Grooving Session: Understanding the gap between what we say and what we do © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Eugen Dimant Kwabena Donkor Ryan Enos Andrea Robbett Register to Vote Here! Want More Behavioral Grooves? Join our Facebook Group! Follow us on Instagram: @behavioralgrooves

Sep 30, 202445 min

Ep 435What’s Really Driving Political Polarization? The Science Explained

Are we more divided than ever? How can people see past their differences and come together for the greater good? In this three-part series, Kurt and Tim explore the psychology behind the rise of political polarization in the United States. Tracing its roots back to the late 60s and 70s, they examine how the advent of cable news has played a pivotal role in shaping today’s divisive landscape. With insights from researchers around the globe, this episode highlights key findings from interviews conducted at MIT’s Polarization and Politicization conference. Experts from around the world discuss the critical role of perception and how digital platforms can either foster constructive dialogue or deepen the divide between opposing sides. Polarization is complex—it’s a persistent and growing trend we can no longer ignore. If you’re curious about understanding not only the nature of polarization but also how to combat it, this episode offers a hopeful perspective on promoting cooperation and a shared sense of reality. Tune in next week for Parts 2 and 3 of this thought-provoking series! © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] History of Polarization [2:25] MIT’s Polarization Conference [6:00] Understanding Polarization: Sandy Pentland [15:39] Misinformation: David Rand [27:45] Meta-perceptions and propaganda: Mina Cikara [36:10] Why do we lack a shared reality? Yph Lelkes [40:32] The danger of political elites: Josh Greene [46:28] Grooving Session: How do we create respectful dialogues? © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Sandy Pentland’s Media Lab David Rand - Debunk Bot Mina Cikara - The Gravity of Groups Yph Lelkes - Polarization Research Lab Josh Greene - Josh and the Cooperation Game Register to Vote HERE! Want More Behavioral Grooves? Join our Facebook Group! Follow us on Instagram: @behavioralgrooves

Sep 23, 202457 min

Ep 434Healthy Habits Made Simple | Monica Reinagel

Do you struggle with maintaining healthy eating habits? Are you, like Kurt, stashing Oreos in the basement to avoid temptation? Believe it or not, making small changes to your environment can be more effective for managing your health than relying on willpower alone. This week, Kurt and Tim are joined by nutrition expert Monica Reinagel—an opera singer turned nutritionist and podcaster. Monica shares her unique insights on weight management and what really matters when starting your personal health journey. Context is everything when it comes to health decisions. In this episode, they dive into how simple tweaks to your environment, both public and private, can have a big impact on your overall well-being. Tune in for practical tips, expert advice, and the encouragement you need to start making healthier choices that work for you. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here. Topics [0:00] Oreo habits and environmental adjustments [9:22] Introduction and speed round [13:50] Are New Year’s Resolutions bad? [20:08] Eating, emotions, and environment [24:32] From opera singer to nutritionist - finding your passions [31:35] How we can look at nutrition through behavioral science [38:30] Tracking nutrition with the Nutrition GPA App [45:00] Desert island music [51:32] Grooving Session: influencing behavior by changing your environment © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Nutrition GPA app Monica on Instagram Change Academy Podcast Behavioral Grooves Facebook Group! Musical Links Bach - Spirits of Meditation - Suite #5 Aria Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor

Sep 16, 20241h 7m

Ep 433The Secret Lives of Cows | Gregory Berns

Get ready for a moo-ving conversation! This week, Kurt and Tim sit down with Gregory Berns, a psychology professor at Emory University, to explore the secret world of cows. Gregory shares his journey from academic to accidental farmer during the COVID-19 pandemic and how a group of miniature cows changed his life. There’s moo-re to cows than meets the eye, and Gregory reveals how his farming adventure turned into a real-life exploration of cow psychology, unveiling behaviors that challenge common assumptions. In today’s world, there’s often a disconnect between urban dwellers and livestock, and the trio discusses how we can reconnect with farm life and our food sources to become more conscious consumers. But that’s not all—tune in to hear how Gregory’s innovative “bud box” techniques show how understanding cow psychology can lead to stress-free handling and trust-building on the farm and beyond. Whether you’re a city slicker or a country dweller, this episode will expand your perspective and leave you with a newfound appreciation for the complex inner lives of the animals around us. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here Topics [0:00] A different type of episode! [2:44] Intro and speed round [4:49] How does a behavioral scientist start raising cows? [12:21] Understanding cow personalities [18:38] Psychology of animal relationships [27:59] Cow psychology and handling techniques [36:51] Music and cows [42:25] Grooving session - understanding our relationship with animals © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Gregory Berns Cowpuppy: An Unexpected Friendship and a Scientist's Journey Into the Secret World of Cows Psychology Today: Cows Musical Links Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama The Band - Don’t Do It The Beach Boys - Kokomo

Sep 9, 202458 min

Ep 432Crack the Code: How Women Can Win Big at Work | Alison Fragale

Do women in the workplace have to choose between being likable and assertive? This week, Alison Fragale, author of The Likable Badass joins Kurt and Tim to look at the challenges women face in the workplace and how they can overcome. With her powerful concept of the “likable badass”, Alison teaches listeners the art of blending warmth with assertiveness to achieve success without sacrificing authenticity. Alison unpacks and explores the historical disadvantages women have faced due to gender and stereotypical characteristics that often hinder success. She highlights how women can overcome these traditional obstacles by balancing confidence and kindness, offering practical strategies like positive self-talk, and building an “army of promoters” to elevate their status. Throughout their discussion, Alison emphasizes how small, incremental improvements and effective communication can help women build a strong reputation. In their grooving session, Kurt and Tim dive deeper into the concept of the likable badass, providing listeners with tangible insights on how small, consistent efforts can significantly impact workplace success and beyond. By focusing on building status rather than seeking power, listeners of all genders can gain valuable insights into self-promotion and confidence in the workplace. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Empowering women in the workplace [4:20] Introduction and speed round [8:21] What is a “likable badass”? [12:20] Challenges faced by women in the workplace [16:12] How communication helps build status [27:14] Why we need to self-promote [30:12] Dangers of self-deprecation [39:32] Practical tips for becoming a likable badass [46:12] Desert Island music [51:20] Grooving Session: the importance of small, incremental improvements and promoting your own success © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Likable Badass - How Women Get the Success They Deserve Join the Behavioral Grooves Newsletter! Alison Fragale Linda Babcock - The No Club Musical Links Zach Brown - I Remember Bon Jovi - It’s My Life

Sep 2, 20241h 9m

Ep 431Why Generational Labels Are Holding Your Company Back | Jessica Kriegel

Are generational labels dead weight? This week—after many technical difficulties and a nearly-forgotten anniversary—Kurt talks with organizational culture expert Jessica Kriegel about generational divides and why they are ultimately pointless and unproductive for both personal and professional growth. Jessica introduces her “culture equation” framework, revealing three critical elements that drive revenue growth and how missing these elements can lead to stagnation. A key focus of the conversation is the damaging impact of generational stereotypes in the workplace and how ageism, in any form, prevents us from recognizing people’s unique talents. Through compelling examples, Jessica explains how these stereotypes dangerously influence workplace practices—and what we can do to avoid them. Tim is back from anniversary-dinner bliss for this week’s grooving session, where he and Kurt reflect on the key themes from Kurt’s conversation with Jessica. The duo offers insights on the power of thoughtful communication and how being intentional with our words can shape organizational culture. Whether you’re a Boomer, Gen Z’er, or anything in between (sorry Gen X and Milennials), this episode has all you need to challenge stereotypes and start bridging those generational gaps. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Generational stereotypes and corporate culture [6:20] Speed round with Jessica Kriegel [9:10] Generational labels: a perspective [23:25] The “Culture Equation” and it’s impact on success [28:41] The importance of leadership for shaping culture [36:52] How to align purpose, strategy, and culture [42:25] Grooving Session: Bridging generational divides with leadership © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Unfairly Labeled: How Your Workplace Can Benefit From Ditching Generational Stereotypes How to get people to give a sh*t | Jessica Kriegel | TEDxStGeorgeStudio Is Generational Prejudice Seeping into Your Workplace? Subscribe to our Newsletter! Musical Links Atmosphere - “Sunshine" The Beatles - "Eight Days a Week"

Aug 26, 202456 min

Ep 430The Real Reason Some People Succeed | Bob McKinnon

This week, we dive into a thought-provoking conversation with Bob McKinnon, host of the Attribution podcast and author of America's Dreaming. Bob unpacks the complex factors that determine success and failure, drawing from his own experiences and broader societal influences. He challenges the "fundamental attribution error," where we often credit personal effort over external factors, and how this bias can distort our perceptions of ourselves and others. Through powerful stories, Bob discusses how systemic barriers and limiting beliefs shape life outcomes, emphasizing the need to recognize the roles of luck, privilege, and social connections in our narratives. Bob, Kurt and Tim explore the ethics of marketing, the overlooked influence of luck in success, and how reframing our stories can foster empathy. With insights into everything from historical injustices to the power of music and storytelling, Bob offers listeners a fresh perspective on the importance of compassionate curiosity in bridging social divides by creating more inclusive conversations. Tune in to discover how understanding attribution can change the way we see the world—and ourselves. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro [6:03] Speed round [9:18] Factors contributing to success/failure [13:53] Attribution and how it affects perceptions and behaviors [19:21] Attribution error and its impact on behavior and success [29:30] Success, privilege, and race in America [35:00] Land grants, race, and attribution [46:35] Empathy, storytelling, and judging less to improve relationships [54:00] Music, identity, and belonging [1:00:29] Grooving session: Attribution and luck in success © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links The Monopoly Experiment The Random Factor by Mark Rank America’s Surprising Views on Inequality American Dream Score - Bob’s Quiz America’s Dreaming - Bob McKinnon Musical Links Neil Diamond - I am…I said Tracy Chapman - Fast Car Luke Combs - Fast Car

Aug 19, 20241h 13m

Ep 429The Habit Blueprint: Breaking Bad (Habits)

Double the Episodes, Double the Insights! This week, Kurt and Tim are back at it, diving deeper into the world of habits, rituals, and routines. In this special double episode, they take us on a journey through the fascinating neuroscience of habit formation, unpacking how the basal ganglia in our brains can shape our behaviors—for better or worse (cue ominous music…). The discussion moves beyond the basics, examining how our habitual actions can both enhance and sometimes limit our ability to fully experience life’s spontaneous pleasures. Kurt and Tim explore the delicate balance between the comfort of routine and the thrill of novelty, offering fresh perspectives on how to be more intentional about the habits we cultivate. But it’s not all theory—this is Behavioral Grooves, after all! The hosts dish out practical strategies for breaking bad habits, like adding friction to disrupt automatic behaviors and swapping out old routines for new, more desirable ones. They also remind us that the road to healthy habits is paved with patience, self-compassion, and a steady focus on personal growth. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] How we form good and bad habits [5:09] Do habits and routines impact life's novelty? [11:04] Breaking bad habits and creating new ones [16:58] Habits, routines, and rituals for personal growth © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Habits: Why We do What We Do James Clear: Habit Tracker Brain/Shift Journal Habits vs Routines

Aug 15, 202421 min

Ep 428The Habit Blueprint: How Routines and Rituals Shape Our Lives

Ever wonder why some habits stick effortlessly while others feel impossible to maintain? In this episode, Kurt and Tim explore the powerful forces of habits, routines, and rituals that shape our daily lives. They dig into what habits are, how they form, and why they're so hard to change. From understanding the role of cues and rewards to distinguishing between habits and routines, Kurt and Tim break down the science and strategies behind these everyday behaviors. They also discuss the importance of starting small, aligning habits with your values, and the often overlooked difference between habits and rituals. Whether you're looking to kick an old habit or start a new one, this episode offers practical advice and thought-provoking insights. And stay tuned for part two, where they’ll tackle the tricky topic of ending unwanted habits! Topics [0:00] Welcome to a solo-sode with Kurt and Tim! [4:17] Habits and routines: The nuance [10:45] What differentiates a habit from a routine? [17:19] Habits, routines, and rituals [24:36] How to create motivation and achieve goals [31:32] Creating new habits [35:07] The key to consistency, grace, and personal growth Links Charles Duhigg - The Power of Habit Wendy Wood - Good Habits, Bad Habits Brain/Shift Journal: Habits and Goals

Aug 12, 202445 min

Ep 426Delighting in Death | Jodi Wellman

“Here is a small fact: You are going to die.” – Markus Zusak, The Book Thief This week, Kurt and Tim confront death. Well - they confront death and Jodi Wellman, author of “You Only Die Once” in a lively discussion on how we can use mortality as a motivator for living life to the fullest. Wellman bring an irreverent humor to the conversation, as well as inspiring insights on how we can prioritize joy and find meaning in our daily lives. The trio dives into the heart of Wellman’s philosophy and explores the idea that life is about more than ticking off a to-do lists or sticking to routings. With a mix of anecdotes and insights, they explore how we can shake things up and be more intentional with our time. After all, we only have so many Mondays left to live! In their grooving session, Kurt opens up about how a brush with death can remind us of life’s preciousness. As they wrap up, they emphasize how the power of gratitude and the importance of connecting with loved ones can help us do more than just breathe - but actually live. Whether it’s finding joy in the everyday or reaching out to someone you’ve lost touch with, the episode is a reminder that living fully means being present, purposeful and - at times - a little irreverent. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] How often do you think about death? [4:33] Introduction and speed round [10:11] The importance of intentional living [15:13] Identifying goals and prioritizing personal desires [22:58] Breaking free from autopilot [28:17] Near-death experiences [38:00] Vitality, meaning, and well-being [43:53] Finding meaning and purpose through self-reflections [56:20] Confronting death and prioritizing life © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Why Some People Love Sad Music You Only Die Once: How to Make It to the End with No Regrets Four Thousand Mondays Musical Links Jason Isbell “If We Were Vampires” Dave Matthews Band “Satellite” The Cure “Friday I’m in Love”

Aug 5, 20241h 16m

Ep 425Building Better Conversations | David Robson

How can we turn disagreements into opportunities for growth and connection? In this episode, Kurt and Tim dive into the science of meaningful conversations with David Robson, author of The Laws of Connection. Together, they explore how to deepen our understanding and build stronger connections with the people around us. Disagreements don’t have to signal the end of a conversation. Instead, with compassionate curiosity and a willingness to listen, we can turn them into constructive dialogues that bridge divides. While facts alone may not sway emotions, personal stories can be far more persuasive than statistics. By integrating personal connections into our interactions, we can enhance both personal and professional relationships. Approaching conversations with honesty, precision, and a focus on growth not only improves our communication but also enriches our connections, potentially transforming every aspect of our lives. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [1:10] Welcome back, David! [3:32] Intro and speed round [8:10] Misconceptions about connecting with strangers [15:04] The importance of social connections [23:48] The art of successful conversation [29:14] Creating a shared reality [32:49] Effective communication strategies for disagreements [36:47] Using personal experience to persuade others [40:22] Effective feedback delivery [52:00] Grooving session: Building connections, overcoming fear, and improving relationships © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Kwame Christian’s “Compassionate Curiosity” approach Trotsky’s principle on empathy and statistics The Laws of Connection David Robson Musical Links Judy Collins - Spellbound Taylor Swift - Fortnight West Side Story - America

Jul 29, 20241h 19m

Ep 424Willpower Myths Busted: How to Truly Reach Your Goals [Republish]

Mythbusters or Behavioral Grooves? This week, we step back in time with Kurt and Tim (2023) to tackle the common belief that willpower alone is enough to achieve your goals. They delve into the critical roles that environment and routines play in goal attainment. Through engaging real-life examples, they demonstrate how small adjustments in your physical and social surroundings can simplify desired behaviors and reduce the need for sheer willpower. Routines are essential for success, providing the structure needed to support your goals. Tim and Kurt offer practical strategies for minimizing friction and sustaining motivation. By establishing effective routines, you can make goal-oriented behaviors more automatic and less reliant on willpower. In this republished episode, listeners get to join Kurt and Tim as they groove on the topic, offering actionable advice and insights on creating an environment and routine that support your goals. Tune in to learn how to set yourself up for success with these expert tips. Topics [1:25] Willpower is a muscle [4:12] Making your environment work for you [7:39] Clutter is distracting [11:36] Routines and habits [16:06] Routines that help us achieve our goals Links Brain/Shift Journal Mazuch & Rona (2005), “Creating healing environments: humanistic architecture and therapeutic design” McMains & Kastner (2011), “Interactions of top-down and bottom-up mechanisms in human visual cortex” Wendy Wood, “Good Habits, Bad Habits: The Science of Making Positive Changes That Stick” Katy Milkman, “How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be”

Jul 22, 202421 min

Ep 423Unmasking AI | Ben Manning

Is AI about to take over the world, or is it simply…misunderstood? Tim takes on a solo-sode with guest Ben Manning, a PhD candidate at MIT who is currently writing a thesis on the fascinating world of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning. They explore the intricacies of AI, defining key terms, and discussing the hierarchy within AI, machine learning, and large language models. From spell check to ChatGPT, the world of AI is diverse and ever-expanding, and Ben explains the potential of AI to assist fields like behavioral science and beyond. From healthcare to finance, AI has the potential to benefit various fields, but it’s not without it’s limitations. There’s a certain way we can all embrace this technology and understand where and how is the best place to use it. Kurt jumps back into the game in this week’s grooving session, where he and Tim reflect on the conversation, highlighting key takeaways and discussing their own perspectives on AI. They emphasize the importance of embracing AI for its potential, and not being scared of the “unknown” it presents. All hail our robot overlords! Kidding, but tune in this week for a great conversation on a modern invention, and how it applies to our everyday lives. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Quick announcements for Behavioral Grooves! [6:35] Intro and speed round [10:27] AI, psychology, and behavioral science [16:46] Using machine learning in psychology experiments [21:34] Using AI to study behavior: Benefits and limitations [28:33] AI in machine learning and desert island music [30:57] Grooving session: The future of AI - we're nervous but excited © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Ben Manning Large Language Models as Simulated Economic Agents: What we can learn from Homo Silicus Ben’s Substack Behavioral Grooves - Sign up for our newsletter! Musical Links Sammy Rae & The Friends “We Made It” The Brook & The Bluff “Halfway Up”

Jul 15, 202444 min

Ep 422To Save or to Spend? Finding Financial Balance | Scott Rick

Budget hotel or 5-star experience? Pack a lunch or grab it to-go? Save your money or spend it? Are you a tightwad or a spendthrift? Scott Rick, author of "Tightwads and Spendthrifts," joins Kurt and Tim on this week’s episode to discuss all things related to personal finance and our relationship with money. Scott explains the distinctions between tightwads and spendthrifts, detailing how these traits influence your financial habits and impact your life and relationships. Through his expertise, Scott offers listeners a unique window into understanding their spending habits and finding the right balance between saving and spending. The episode also addresses the challenges couples face when they have different financial personalities. Scott and Kurt suggest strategies for maintaining harmony, highlighting the significance of financial compatibility and its effect on overall happiness in a relationship. If you thought gift-giving was just a love language, think again! Scott emphasizes the importance of thoughtful gift-giving and understanding the recipient's preferences, shedding light on how spendthrifts and tightwads approach gifts differently and the significance of effort and sacrifice in making gifts meaningful. Tune in for this insightful conversation with Scott Rick, packed with valuable insights to help you navigate your financial journey. Whether you’re a spendthrift, tightwad, or somewhere in between, this episode offers a wealth (pun intended) of knowledge to enhance your understanding of personal finance and relationships. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [4:46] Introduction and speed round [7:00] Money Management and spending habits [13:00] Tightwads, spendthrifts, and finding balance [17:47] How budgeting helps both groups [22:08] Avoiding financial friction in marriage [33:43] The financial importance of gift-giving [37:32] Financial transparency and accountability in relationships [44:19] Desert Island music [46:22] Grooving Session - relationships, finance, and finding balance © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships Tightwads vs Spendthrifts Quiz Scott Rick Is Joint Banking the Key to a Happy Marriage? Musical Links Pearl Jam “Even Flow” Mitski “Star”

Jul 8, 20241h 16m

Ep 421Inner Power: Secrets to Self-Compassion and Intuition | Emma Seppälä

Take a deep breath. Step outside. Smell the coffee. Tune in to Behavioral Grooves. This week, Kurt and Tim sit down with Emma Seppälä, author of "Sovereign," to discuss the importance of understanding and embracing our emotions, practicing self-compassion, and relying on intuition in our decision-making process. In this empowering conversation, Emma emphasizes the transformative power of self-compassion and self-love in our daily lives. Do you have trouble accepting praise from others? Is your tendency toward self-criticism too automatic? Sometimes, we need to step outside ourselves and reconnect with the world around us to practice gratitude, change our perspective, and erase negative self-talk to improve our mental well-being. If you’re seeking more agency in life or starting a journey of personal growth, tune in to learn about the impact of self-compassion on relationships and happiness and the importance of intuition in decision-making, creativity, and problem-solving. Join us as we explore these themes and more, offering actionable steps to reclaim your freedom, energy, and power in today’s hectic world. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [3:30] Thanks to our listeners! [6:37] Intro and speed round [11:05] Self-awareness and personal growth [19:02] Why does society focus on criticism more than praise? [26:29] Intuition and its role in decision-making [35:07] Meditation and mindfulness for emotional intelligence [40:00] Gratitude and mental health [47:02] Desert Island music [49:05] Grooving Session: Positivity, praise, and work-life balance © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Sarah Glenister, Australasian Change Days About Emma Sovereign: Reclaim Your Freedom, Energy, and Power in a Time of Distraction, Uncertainty, and Chaos Musical Links Mahamrityunjaya Mantra, Ancient Chant for Healing & Peace Indian Flute Music, Compilation

Jul 1, 20241h 5m

Ep 420Behavioral Science in the Workplace: Tips and Strategies | Becky Frayer

This week on Behavioral Grooves, things get personal – or at least professionally personal – as Kurt and Tim are joined by Becky Frayer, founder and CEO of Behavioral Fusion. Becky shares valuable tips and strategies for overcoming challenges in large organizations and explores the practical applications of behavioral science in the business world. Throughout their discussion, Kurt, Tim, and Becky emphasize the importance of applying behavioral science practices in the workplace. They explain how storytelling and reassurance can be powerful tools for navigating corporate environments. Through personal anecdotes and real-world examples, the trio reveals how to overcome common work obstacles and integrate healthy behavioral science practices into your company’s everyday routine. Whether you're a skeptic or an embracer of behavioral science, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice on using behavioral science principles to drive business growth and improve decision-making. Tune in to hear about the fascinating journey of applying behavioral science in corporate America and gain new perspectives on consumer behavior and organizational dynamics. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [2:42] Intro and speed round [6:42] Consumer behavior and decision-making in the pharmaceutical industry [13:30] Using behavioral science to understand consumer behavior [17:56] Applying behavioral science in business [27:51] Challenges and insights: applying behavioral science at work [33:22] The importance of understanding human behavior [37:54] Desert island music [40:59] Grooving Session: Using behavioral science insights to drive business success © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Dunning-Kruger Effect Behavioral Fusion Building Behavioral Science Capabilities in Your Company Musical Links Michael Jackson, “Thriller” Sister Hazel, “Change Your Mind”

Jun 24, 202456 min

Ep 419Question Everything: The Power of Critical Thinking | Alex Edmans

How often do you question the 'facts' you encounter in everyday life? This week, Alex Edmans, author of May Contain Lies, joins Kurt and Tim to question the world around us. They explore the significance of critical thinking and cognitive diversity, highlighting the value of diverse perspectives and evidence-based reasoning. They discuss the differences between facts and statements, the dangers of misleading inferences from evidence, and the impact of perception on communication. Creating an environment where individuals can express their viewpoints freely is crucial. This includes fostering a culture where a devil’s advocate can provide critical feedback and considering alternative explanations to avoid confirmation bias in our everyday lives. For a bit of fun (and for Tim too!), Alex explains his research on how music preferences can predict stock market trends and the challenge of separating emotional effects from fundamental factors. During their Grooving Session, Kurt and Tim encourage listeners to apply a scientific mindset when evaluating information and to promote cognitive diversity within their workspaces. Tune in to enhance your critical thinking skills, appreciate the nuances in decision-making, and learn how to foster a culture of scientific inquiry in your workplace and beyond. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [5:07] Intro and speed round [9:30] The importance of critical thinking and avoiding confirmation bias [16:37] Misinformation and how it’s presented [27:56] How to evaluate scientific claims by checking sources [33:08] The importance of cognitive diversity [42:07] Using music to predict stock market trends [49:26] Grooving Session: Overcoming biases to make informed decisions © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Alex Edmans ‘May Contain Lies: How Stories, Statistics, and Studies Exploit Our Biases - And What We Can Do About It’ Wason Selection Task Sports Sentiment and Stock Returns How Cognitive Biases Influence the Way You Think and Act Musical Links Earth, Wind, and Fire “September” Fleetwood Mac “The Chain”

Jun 17, 20241h 10m

Ep 418The Benefits of Shades of Gray Thinking | Saul Perlmutter & Rob MacCoun

How do we make sense in a world that often seems nonsensical? In this week’s episode, Kurt and Tim team up with Saul Perlmutter and Rob MacCoun, co-authors of Third Millennium Thinking, to try and answer these unanswerable questions for listeners. Together, they bring the scientific method from theory to practice as they explore key aspects of scientific inquiry, probabilistic thinking, and the significance of embracing uncertainty in problem-solving. Saul and Rob help bring scientific practice into reality and cover various topics from the role of experimentation in identifying cause-and-effect relationships, the importance of assigning probabilities in decision-making, and the virtues of persistence and optimism in tackling challenges. In today’s increasingly polarized climate, it’s important to understand the value of seeking diverse perspectives to avoid mental traps and the power of collective cognition in decision-making. From probabilistic thinking to scientific optimism this conversation showcases how applying the scientific method can enhance not only our individual way of thinking but our interactions with the world. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [4:08] Intro and speed round [7:48] Scientific method and experimentation in various fields [16:54] Using probability to make informed decisions [21:34] Dangers of polarization and the importance of making quick estimates [28:08] Using mathematical estimates to solve problems [32:55] Scientific optimism in the face of challenges [43:05] Collective cognition and the importance of acknowledging uncertainty [50:35] Grooving Session: Using the scientific method to improve thinking © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Third Millennium Thinking: Creating Sense in a World of Nonsense Nobel Prize - Saul Perlmutter Rob MacCoun Steven Pinker The Law of Group Polarization Musical Links Jazz Classics John Williams, Star Wars

Jun 10, 20241h 11m

Ep 416Break Free from Insecure Attachments | Dr. Judy Ho

Have you ever wondered how your childhood experiences influence your adult relationships and behaviors? This week, Kurt and Tim jump into attachment theory with renowned clinical psychologist Dr. Judy Ho. They explore the different types of secure and insecure attachment, and how our early bonds with primary caregivers shape our developmental years and influence our adult behavior and relationships. Dr. Ho explains how attachment styles can influence our worldview, and how these styles manifest in our self-talk and stress responses. Our past doesn’t define our future, and the discussion highlights the importance of understanding and healing our attachment issues at any age. And it wouldn’t be Behavioral Grooves without some music! Dr. Ho joins Tim and Kurt (mostly Tim) in a conversation about the therapeutic role music has on emotional regulation and self-care. Music can help replace unhelpful patterns with healthier ones and can help ground us and promote mindfulness. Mindfulness is key in this week’s Grooving Session, with Kurt and Tim emphasizing the importance of slowing down and being mindful in daily life. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they wrap up the episode with actionable advice and valuable strategies for personal growth and emotional well-being. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [5:27] Intro and speed round [8:19] Attachment theory and its impact on adult behavior [10:50] Attachment styles and relationships [15:53] Understanding attachment styles and their impact [25:07] Self-help techniques to manage emotions [34:29] The importance of mindfulness [42:51] Music’s role in self-care [50:07] Grooving Session: Attachment theory, self-regulation, and mindfulness © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links The New Rules of Attachment: How to Heal Your Relationships, Reparent Your Inner Child, and Secure Your Life Vision APA Definition of Attachment Theory Dr. Judy Ho Penn State Worry Questionnaire (Free-Abridged) Mindfulness Meditation LaFreniere LS, Newman MG. “Exposing Worry's Deceit: Percentage of Untrue Worries in Generalized Anxiety Disorder Treatment,” Behavioral Therapy. 2020 May; 51(3):413-423. doi: 10.1016/j.beth.2019.07.003. Epub 2019 Jul 17. PMID: 32402257; PMCID: PMC7233480. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7233480/ Musical Links Aretha Franklin “Think” John Lennon “Stand By Me”

Jun 3, 20241h 19m

Ep 415Turn Self-Doubt into Success | Martin Gonzalez

Have you ever struggled with the pitfalls of imposter syndrome in the workplace? Been wracked with self-doubt when leading your teams? Join Kurt and Tim as they dive into these topics and many more with Martin Gonzalez, co-author of "The Bonfire Moment." They explore the intricacies of leadership, team dynamics, and overcoming obstacles in startups. Martin shares his expertise on uniting teams to solve problems through a unique workshop process and identifies common traps that founders often encounter. Listen in as Martin opens up about his journey with self-doubt and imposter syndrome as an immigrant, providing a candid look at the human side of leadership. Kurt, Tim, and Martin cover various topics including leadership styles, organizational structures, the pitfalls of over-functioning teams, and achieving a productive work-life balance. While you might never love everything about your job, it is possible to enjoy most of your job if you manage your expectations and strategize for success. In startups, people issues need to take center stage, and the trio highlights the need for vulnerability, effective communication, and nurturing relationships within growing companies. If you’re looking for new motivation and a confidence boost at work, don't miss this insightful episode packed with valuable takeaways for anyone involved in the startup world! © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [5:58] Introduction and Speed Round [10:16] What is a bonfire moment? [14:02] Why soft skills are more important than soft skills [17:54] Leadership styles and their impact on success [22:37] Common start-up traps [32:10] Startup myths, leadership, and best practices [41:11] Overcoming blind spots and insecurities in leadership [46:43] Imposter Syndrome and gender stereotypes [55:04] Productivity, creativity, and music preferences [1:01:14] Grooving Session: Leadership, emotional intelligence, and scaling business © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links “The Bonfire Moment - Bring Your Team Together to Solve the Hardest Problems Startups Face” by Joshua Yellin and Martin Gonzales About Martin Culture Amp How Corporate Leadership and Turnover Affect Startup Success Musical Links Eric Clapton “Wonderful Tonight” Elton John “Your Song” Mozart “Lacrimosa”

May 27, 20241h 33m

Ep 414Unlearning Silence | Elaine Lin Hering

When was the last time you wanted to speak up, but were too afraid to? This week, embark on a riveting exploration of silence with Kurt, Tim, and special guest Elaine Lin Herring, author of Unlearning Silence. Through rich conversation, they delve into the intricate dynamics of power, societal expectations, and the profound impact of silence in our personal and professional lives. Elaine illuminates the hidden complexities behind our communication patterns, urging listeners to challenge ingrained norms and create inclusive spaces where every voice is heard. From dissecting workplace dynamics to sharing personal anecdotes, the trio navigates the journey of self-awareness and collective empowerment with remarkable depth and clarity. As the conversation unfolds, we invite you to reflect on your own experiences of silence and consider the transformative potential of embracing diverse communication styles. This conversation offers practical strategies for fostering open dialogue and nurturing psychological safety within teams and organizations. Break free from the confines of silence, and learn how to foster a culture of authenticity, innovation, and belonging. Tune in to this enlightening episode as we journey towards unlearning silence and amplifying voices in a world hungry for change. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [2:34] Introduction and speed round [4:29] The pros and cons of silence and speaking up [9:35] Workplace silence and its impact on employees [15:37] The negative effects of silencing [20:08] Communication preferences and their impact on team dynamics [25:16] Creating open communication environments [34:48] Unlearning silence and social isolation [46:55] Music’s impact on life [49:58] Grooving Session: Speaking up and the culture of accountability © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Unlearning Silence - How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully Elaine Lin Hering What Doctors Wish Patients Knew About Social Isolation Lessons from The Challenger Harvard Negotiation Project Musical Links Miles Davis - So What Elevation Worship - Praise

May 20, 20241h 7m