Think Inclusive

About the Guest(s):Jeannie Gainsburg is an LGBTQ+ advocate and author. She has been actively involved in LGBTQ+ inclusion for over 15 years and has worked with various organizations to promote equality and acceptance. Jeannie is passionate about creating inclusive spaces and educating others on allyship.Episode Summary:In this episode, Tim Villegas interviews Jeannie Gainsburg, an LGBTQ+ advocate and author. They discuss their personal journeys to becoming allies and the importance of disability and LGBTQ+ inclusion. Jeannie shares her experiences and insights on being an effective ally, including tips for respectful conversations and using gender-neutral language. They also discuss the evolving nature of LGBTQ+ initialisms and the significance of pronouns in creating inclusive spaces.Also in this episode, Tim Villegas and Tasslyn Magnusson (PEN America) discuss the recent trend of book banning in schools. They discuss the current state of book banning, its impact on marginalized communities, and what educators can do to fight against it. They also touch on the importance of student involvement and the power of storytelling.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/PvzH-RQidgOHvbKrA_D-hHsWLG8Key Takeaways:Jeannie Gainsburg and Tim Villegas both came to disability and LGBTQ+ inclusion advocacy later in life but were motivated by the injustice and discrimination they witnessed.Being an ally means actively supporting and advocating for marginalized communities, such as the LGBTQ+ communities and people with disabilities.It is important to use inclusive language and respect people's pronouns to create a welcoming and inclusive environment.Allyship is an ongoing journey, and it is important to be open to learning, making mistakes, and continuously educating oneself.Educators play a crucial role in providing quality instruction and creating an inclusive learning environment for students.Resources:The Savvy Ally: https://amzn.to/3uarECDWebsite: https://www.savvyallyaction.com/Banned in the USA: The Mounting Pressure to Censor: https://pen.org/report/book-bans-pressure-to-censor/MCIE:Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Threads: https://www.threads.net/@think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/Support: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About the Guest(s): Elizabeth Biggs, Ph.D., is an Assistant Professor of Special Education at Vanderbilt University. She is also an affiliated faculty member of the Vanderbilt Kennedy Center. Her research focuses on improving social, communication, language, and literacy outcomes for students with complex communication needs, particularly supporting their belonging and inclusion.Erin Turner, MA, is an Educational Consultant for the Enhancing Peer Networks Project at Vanderbilt University. As a special educator for 12 years, Erin served diverse schools and districts across many roles. She taught both general and special education classes, led an inclusion program, and served as a district-wide special education coach. She now collaborates with and provides training to educators and school sites to implement the Enhanced Peer Networks Intervention. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/bgkXTbRTJPDDE78wJfxWcJubJwwSummary: In this episode, Tim Villegas interviews Elizabeth Biggs and Erin Turner about the importance of fostering peer relationships in inclusive classrooms. They discuss why relationships with peers are often overlooked, the benefits of inclusive classrooms beyond academic progress, and the role of augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) in supporting communication access for students with limited speech. Elizabeth and Erin share insights from their research and provide practical strategies for educators and families to promote peer engagement and friendship in schools.Key Takeaways:Inclusive classrooms often overlook peer relationships due to a focus on academics and a lack of training in social-emotional skills.Friendships promote well-being for students with disabilities.Inclusive classrooms foster relationships between students with disabilities and non-disabled peers.The Enhancing Peer Network Project aims to develop tools and resources to support social communication and foster relationships for autistic students who use AAC.AAC is essential for students with limited verbal speech to communicate and build relationships with peers.Resources:TIES Center - Creating Communities of Belonging for Students with Significant Cognitive Disabilities: https://publications.ici.umn.edu/ties/peer-engagement/belonging/introductionMCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Threads: https://www.threads.net/@think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/Support: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s):Dr. Kristin Burnette is an Assistant Professor of Special Education at ECU. She has 17 years of experience working with students with extensive support needs and 11 years of classroom experience. She completed her Ph.D. at the University of NC Greensboro, focusing on inclusive education for students with extensive support needs. During her doctoral program, she was a graduate assistant for the TIES Center, the OSEP national technical assistance center focused on inclusive education and systemic change.Christine Bechtel is the Supervisor of Special Education for Carroll County Public Schools and has been in the field of Special Education for 28 years. Mrs. Bechtel is dedicated to equity particularly for students with disabilities, earning a Post-Baccalaureate Certification in Equity and Excellence in Education from McDaniel College in 2019. Among many other roles within CCPS, Mrs. Bechtel currently serves as the chair of CCPS’s District Inclusion Team.Summary: Kristin and Christine discussed Carroll County's journey toward inclusive education. They started with targeted technical assistance from the National TIES Center and gradually expanded inclusive practices to multiple schools. Their commitment to collaboration and a mindset shift has led to positive outcomes for both students with disabilities and their non-disabled peers.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/OfppakyION57qFeebUXEoQ1Cw9AThank you to Brookes Publishing for sponsoring this episode! Book Giveaway: https://bit.ly/brookes-giveaway-0124Key Takeaways:Inclusive education requires multiple layers of leadership at the building, district, and state levels.The district's focus on content areas like science and social studies has led to meaningful inclusion and improved outcomes.Reflection and action planning are essential for sustainable systems change in education.The district has positively impacted school culture and student engagement through inclusive practices.Non-disabled peers have benefited from inclusive education, becoming role models and improving their behavior.TIES Roadmap: https://bit.ly/TIES-RISEMCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Threads: https://www.threads.net/@think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/Support: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Jonathan Cormur is a talented voice actor and the host of the Dorktales Storytime podcast. He has a great passion for storytelling and presents classic fairytales in a unique and geekish way. Jonathan also contributes to the Hidden Heroes of History series, which is part of the Dorktales Storytime feed. Through this series, he highlights important historical figures who are often overlooked.Summary: Jonathan Cormur discusses his work on the Dorktales Storytime podcast, adding a geeky twist to classic fairytales. He emphasizes the importance of authentic representation of disabilities in audio and shares his experiences in voice acting and theater. Jonathan reflects on his journey with autism and the impact of inclusive education and shares his aspirations for his career and the positive message of his podcast.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/XrZ2JnVA7ZmG0Ah7QYXNHvv87oEKey Takeaways:Dork Tales Story Time podcast puts a geekish twist on classic fairytales, promoting positive role models and embracing uniqueness.Authentic representation of disabilities in audio is important, and more opportunities should be given to neurodivergent individuals.Inclusive education and supportive teachers can make a significant difference in the lives of neurodivergent students.Jonathan's dreams for his career include financial viability for the podcast and more opportunities for positive role modeling.Playing Dungeons & Dragons has become a fun and engaging hobby for Jonathan, enhancing his creativity and enjoyment.Jonathan Cormur: https://jonincharacter.com/Dorktales Storytime: https://pod.link/dorktales-storytimeMCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Threads: https://www.threads.net/@think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/Support: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Donate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Arthur Aston is a podcaster and the host of the Inclusion Think Tank podcast for the New Jersey Coalition for Inclusive Education (NJCIE). He was born with spina bifida, a condition that affects his mobility, and has dedicated his life to changing the way people see and interact with individuals with disabilities.Summary: Arthur Aston, host of the Inclusion Think Tank podcast for NJCIE, shares his personal journey of living with spina bifida and how it led him to become an advocate for inclusive education. He discusses the importance of inclusive education and the need for students with and without disabilities to learn together. Arthur also highlights the work of NJCIE in providing professional development and consulting services to promote inclusive education in schools.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/dcqHcjhDxPQq3gOnBUbUznydM0cKey Takeaways:Inclusive education is a fundamental right for every student and allows for learning and growth for all.Accessibility benefits everyone, not just individuals with disabilities.Inclusive education provides an opportunity for students to learn from each other and realize their similarities.Making changes towards inclusive education takes time, patience, and dedication.It is important to include the voices of individuals with disabilities in the conversation about inclusive education.NJCIE Website: https://www.njcie.org/Inclusion Think Tank Podcast: https://www.njcie.org/podcastAll In (Arkansas): https://sites.google.com/view/inclusive-practices/homeMCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Heather Avis is an author, speaker, and advocate for individuals with Down syndrome. She is the founder of The Lucky Few, a foundation that aims to shift the narrative around Down syndrome and create spaces of belonging for everyone. Heather shares her personal experiences as a mother of three adopted children, two of whom have Down syndrome, and uses storytelling to challenge societal perceptions and promote inclusion.Summary: Heather Avis and Tim Villegas engage in a thought-provoking conversation about intentional inclusion and the power of storytelling in transforming perceptions. They delve into the challenges and progress in creating inclusive spaces for individuals with disabilities, as well as the need to address ableism within the disability community itself. Heather emphasizes the importance of intentional adjustments and thoughtful consideration to foster true inclusion. They also discuss the impact of the fight for inclusion on parents and caregivers, highlighting the need to prioritize the well-being and hearts of disabled individuals. Ultimately, the conversation centers around recognizing the full humanity and worth of individuals with disabilities, irrespective of societal expectations.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/wjkXhhny49k-OJu1BbN1twhWThoKey Takeaways:Inclusion necessitates deliberate adjustments and thoughtful consideration of the impact of decisions.Storytelling is a powerful tool for changing perceptions and creating spaces of belonging.Addressing and dismantling ableism within the disability community is crucial for achieving genuine inclusion.The fight for inclusion can be emotionally taxing for parents and caregivers, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing the well-being of disabled individuals.Inclusion should extend beyond societal expectations and encompass the recognition of the full humanity and worth of individuals with disabilities.Win a copy of "Equitable and Inclusive IEPs" by Andrea Ruppar and Jennifer Kurth from our sponsor Brookes Publishing!Enter Here: https://bit.ly/brookes-giveaway-1223Heather Avis:Website: https://www.theluckyfew.co/Everyone Belongs: https://www.theluckyfew.co/collections/everyone-belongsMCIE:Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Lori Miranda is an advocate for inclusive education and the Director of Pre-K Exceptional Student Education (ESE) in Palm Beach County, Florida. She has been instrumental in implementing inclusive practices for young children with disabilities in the county's school district, Head Start programs, and community centers.Summary: Lori Miranda discusses the importance of inclusive placements for students with disabilities in Palm Beach County. She explains that the traditional model of removing students from their natural environments and sending them to separate special education programs was disruptive and limited their opportunities for socialization and learning. To address this issue, Palm Beach County implemented a collaborative approach, partnering with community centers and Head Start programs to provide inclusive education for young learners with disabilities.Miranda highlights the challenges they faced in implementing this model, including concerns about behavior management, funding, and teacher buy-in. However, through extensive training, relationship-building, and a commitment to putting children and families first, they were able to overcome these barriers and create a successful inclusive program.She also discusses the positive impact of inclusive placements on students' transitions to kindergarten. By providing support and services in their natural environments, students are better prepared for the general education setting and have a higher likelihood of continuing in inclusive classrooms.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/2jWLSDDkk-cKV2lPhwr9WbfF1qQKey Takeaways:Inclusive placements allow students with disabilities to remain in their natural environments and receive support and services in community centers and Head Start programs.Building relationships and trust with community partners and teachers is crucial for the success of inclusive programs.Palm Beach County's inclusive model has resulted in 100% of students transitioning to general education kindergarten.Editorial Note: 1. Regarding large waiting lists for evaluation: Recent verification data from Palm Beach County indicate diagnostic teams make every effort to connect with families prior to closing files. This effort takes time and can appear as if families are waiting while diagnostic teams work diligently to make contact and meet with families that can be hard to reach. 2. Regarding there being no cap on class size for FL early childhood special education classrooms: Per Section 1003.03, Florida Statute – Maximum class size (1)  CLASS SIZE MAXIMUMS. – Each year, on or before the October student membership survey, the following class size maximum shall be satisfied: (a) The maximum number of students assigned to each teacher who is teaching core-curricula courses to public school classrooms for prekindergarten through grade 3 may not exceed 18 students. The School District of Palm Beach County has a PreK ESE allocation formula that is below Florida's class size requirements. Comments in this podcast episode reference the district allocation formula.Resources:Partners in Education Video (Palm Beach County School District): https://youtu.be/VEpX6EqCV50Palm Beach County School District: https://www.palmbeachschools.org/domain/456MCIE: https://www.mcie.org/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Brad Cohen is an educator, author, and motivational speaker. He has Tourette Syndrome and has dedicated his career to advocating for individuals with disabilities. Brad has written a book called "Front of the Class: How Tourette Syndrome Made Me the Teacher I Never Had," and his story has been made into a movie. He has also worked as a mascot for the Atlanta Braves.Summary: Brad Cohen, an educator with Tourette Syndrome, shares his experiences and insights on working with individuals with disabilities. He emphasizes the importance of understanding and acceptance, dispelling misconceptions about Tourette's, and providing support for students with neurological disorders. Brad also discusses his own journey as an educator and the impact he has made in the lives of others.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/ye6nk1AR0hWIVABR-pqZMwXjDTkKey Takeaways:Misconceptions about Tourette's include viewing it as a behavior problem and assuming individuals with Tourette's are disabled.Educators should educate themselves about Tourette's and communicate with students to understand their needs.Tourette's can be influenced by emotions and stress, leading to increased tics in certain situations.It is crucial for educators to believe in students with Tourette's and provide them with opportunities for success.Families of children with disabilities should educate others, focus on strengths, and promote self-confidence.Brad Cohen: Website: http://www.classperformance.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradcohentourettefoundation/MCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Valerie Williams is the Director of the Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at the U.S. Department of Education. She is passionate about early childhood inclusion and ensuring that all children have access to quality education.Summary: Valerie Williams, Director of OSEP, discusses the importance of inclusion in early childhood education. She shares a personal story about finding the right preschool for her son with Down syndrome and highlights the need for a mindset shift among educators and administrators. Valerie emphasizes the importance of providing resources and technical assistance to support inclusive practices. She also discusses the current state of inclusive education in different states and the need for implementation and accountability.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/aHwtuZFhIyncVjkeHBdVS1Yk-ZcKey Takeaways:Inclusion starts early and should continue throughout a child's education.The mindset of educators and administrators plays a significant role in promoting inclusion.There are federal resources available to support inclusive practices, but there is a need for better dissemination and outreach.Implementation and accountability are crucial for ensuring that inclusive practices are effectively implemented in schools.Resources:Office of Special Education Programs Techincal Assistance Network: https://osepideasthatwork.org/sites/default/files/2023-10/OSEP-IDEAs-Menu-508.pdf This episode was produced in collaboration with the Early Childhood Technical Assistance Center (https://ectacenter.org/) and the Frank Porter Graham Child Development Institute (https://fpg.unc.edu/).MCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Lori Boll is an inclusive education leader with a personal connection to individuals with disabilities. Her son Braden was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder and an intellectual developmental delay, inspiring her to advocate for all children’s education. Lori has taught in international schools for over 25 years and holds two Masters degrees in Reading Education and Special Education. She is the Executive Director of SENIA International and supports others on their professional development journeys. Her expertise and personal connection help her make a meaningful difference in the lives of others. Summary: Lori Boll, the Executive Director of SENIA, an international nonprofit organization, discusses the importance of inclusion in education and how SENIA supports educators in creating inclusive learning environments in international schools. SENIA provides resources, conferences, and coursework to educate parents, families, and educators on best practices for inclusion. They also offer a membership program for schools and school districts, as well as regional and local chapters worldwide. SENIA's mission is to advocate for and provide resources for individuals with disabilities, with a focus on promoting inclusion and equity.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/iX5JRQleaRL9s__UsJG-jhy5WJwKey Takeaways:SENIA is an international nonprofit organization that advocates for and provides resources for individuals with disabilities.SENIA's mission is to promote inclusion and equity in education through three pillars: learn, connect, and support.SENIA offers conferences, coursework, and a membership program for schools and school districts to support their inclusion efforts.SENIA is working towards creating an accreditation program for international schools that want to prioritize inclusion.Inclusion benefits all students and helps create a more equitable and diverse learning environment.SENIA:Website: https://www.seniainternational.org/SENIA Virtual Conference (2023): https://www.seniaconference.org/senia-virtual-conference-2023/MCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Jen Malia is a professor of English and a writer of children's books. She started out publishing literary criticism before transitioning to creative writing. Her interest in neurodivergence and autism led her to write personal essays and reported pieces on the topic. This eventually led to the opportunity to write children's books, including the "Infinity Rainbow Club" series.Summary: Jen Malia, a professor of English and writer of children's books, discusses her transition from academic writing to creative writing. She shares how her autism diagnosis influenced her writing and inspired her to create stories about neurodivergent characters. Jen also talks about the inspiration behind her "Infinity Rainbow Club" series and the importance of portraying neurodivergent kids in everyday situations. She emphasizes the need for acceptance and understanding of neurodivergence and hopes that her books will reach a wide audience, including educators and parents.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/BTHkinTYPaxmxBV_6vl_f50Ng4EKey Takeaways:Jen Malia wanted to write books about neurodivergent characters who go about their everyday lives rather than focusing solely on their neurodivergence.The characters in the "Infinity Rainbow Club" series are inspired by real-life experiences and composite characters.Jen's autism diagnosis later in life changed her view of herself and her parenting approach, emphasizing acceptance and pride in being neurodivergent.The educational experiences of the characters in the series are based on inclusive classrooms with collaboration between general education and special education teachers.Jen hopes her books will be a resource for neurodivergent kids and help promote acceptance and understanding among all students.Jen Malia:Website: https://jenmalia.com/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/jenmaliabooksInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenmaliabooks/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MomWithAutism/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenmaliabooks/MCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About The Guest(s): Tim Harris is a motivational speaker, author, and former restaurant owner. He gained national attention when he opened Tim's Place, a restaurant in Albuquerque, New Mexico, known for its friendly atmosphere and Tim's signature hugs. Tim has Down syndrome and has used his platform to advocate for inclusion and spread joy through his positive outlook on life.Summary: Tim Harris, a motivational speaker and former restaurant owner, shares his experiences and insights on inclusion and living an awesome life. Tim talks about his favorite memories from his restaurant, Tim's Place, where he was known as the "king of hugs." He discusses the importance of giving hugs and how he kept track of the thousands of hugs he gave. Tim also opens up about the decision to close his restaurant and the impact it had on his life. He shares his love for public speaking and the joy he finds in bringing happiness to others. Tim emphasizes the importance of dreaming big and standing up for oneself, and he encourages people with disabilities to embrace their awesomeness and be a light in the world.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/EQqgDnFCvtRnzoHFc7eg8mOILs8Key Takeaways:Tim's favorite memory from Tim's Place was seeing people walk through the front door and feeling the world come in.Tim kept track of the hugs he gave by using a hug clicker and adding them to a hug counter on the wall.Tim's decision to close Tim's Place was sad, but his public speaking career has been fulfilling and exciting.Tim encourages people with disabilities to dream big, be awesome, and have fun.Inclusion means being accepted into the world and bringing light into people's hearts.Tim Harris: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timsbigheartFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/timsbigheart/MCIE: Website: https://www.mcie.org/Email List: https://bit.ly/MCIE-Email-ListFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThinkInclusive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/think_inclusive/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/think_inclusiveYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThinkinclusiveUsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/inclusive-education/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Maya Chupkov (she/her) is the host of the podcast Proud Stutter and Media and Democracy Program Manager at California Common Cause. She advocates for people who stutter and works to raise awareness and build inclusive spaces through storytelling and policy.Maya Chupkov shares her journey of embracing her stutter and using podcasting as a platform for advocacy. She talks about misconceptions around stuttering, her personal growth, and how inclusive environments can make a difference. This episode is a powerful reminder of the importance of visibility, education, and authentic storytelling.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/maya-chupkov-advocating-for-stuttering-awareness-through-podcasting/

About The Guest(s):Andy Arias: DEIA expert, national policy advisor, instructor at Georgetown University, actor, and producer.Diego Mariscal: Founder, CEO, and Chief Disabled Officer of 2Gether International, an accelerator that supports disabled entrepreneurs.Emily Ladau: Disability rights activist, author of "Demystifying Disability," and board member of Kids Included Together.Summary: In this episode, Torrie Dunlop hosts a panel discussion with Andy Arias, Diego Mariscal, and Emily Liddell to honor the legacy of Judy Heumann, a pioneer and advocate in the disability rights movement. The panelists discuss how Judy's work has inspired their own activism, the most important issues facing the disability community today, and the impact of intersectionality in disability rights. They also share personal stories and reflections on Judy as a person, highlighting her generosity, humor, and commitment to connecting people. The panelists discuss how they plan to continue Judy's legacy in their own work, emphasizing the importance of authentic representation and collaboration in the disability community.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/_LOEalVNz27i_mdqvHaNnXHQVqQKey Takeaways:Judy Heumann's legacy is characterized by her commitment to collaboration, community building, and intersectionality in the disability rights movement.The most important issues facing the disability community today are interconnected and require a holistic approach to address barriers in healthcare, employment, education, transportation, and more.Judy's impact as a person extended beyond her advocacy work, as she was known for her humor, generosity, and genuine interest in connecting with others.To honor Judy's legacy, it is crucial to prioritize authentic representation and collaboration in all aspects of disability rights work, including storytelling, filmmaking, and entrepreneurship.Kids Included Together: https://www.kit.org/Andy Arias: https://www.instagram.com/andyswheelz/Diego Mariscal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/Diego-Mariscal/Emily Ladau: https://emilyladau.com/

Brooke Ellison — Disability rights advocate, author, and professor at Stony Brook University. Brooke became a ventilator-using quadriplegic at age 11 after being hit by a car, graduated from Harvard, and ran for the New York State Senate; her work matters because she pushes us to see disability as strength, redesign systems with universal design, and center disability across all policy areas. Brooke Ellison joins Think Inclusive to talk about her book Look Both Ways, sharing how living with quadriplegia reshaped her understanding of disability—from shame and pity to resilience and empowerment. She calls for disability to be treated as a cross‑cutting policy issue, highlights the power of universal design, and reminds educators and communities that inclusion benefits everyone. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/look-both-ways-exploring-disability-with-brooke-ellison/

Kayla Taylor — Writer, researcher, advocate, and parent; author of Canaries Among Us, she blends lived experience with research to help families understand learning differences, bullying, and anxiety and to push schools toward more caring, inclusive cultures.In this conversation, Kayla Taylor shares what she learned while raising a child navigating learning differences, bullying, and anxiety—and why telling these stories in real time (not decades later) helps families feel less alone. She breaks down what bullying really is, why power dynamics matter, and how schools and bystanders can respond in ways that actually reduce harm and build belonging. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/understanding-bullying-a-personal-journey-and-call-for-change-with-kayla-taylor/

Andratesha Fritzgerald — Founder and lead consultant of Building Blocks of Brilliance; international speaker and author of Antiracism and Universal Design for Learning: Building Expressways to Success. Her work pushes schools to move from a culture of power to a culture of honor, combining UDL with anti-racism so every learner is seen, heard, and supported.Tim Villegas interviews Andratesha Fritzgerald about building a culture of honor in schools—shifting power by co‑designing learning with students and pairing Universal Design for Learning (UDL) with anti-racist practice. They dig into how fear-based control harms learning, what “expert learners” look like at any age, and the difference between equality and equity. The episode was recorded June 30, 2023, the day of major Supreme Court rulings, which shaped parts of the conversation; the show closes with a “mystery question” and a Free Time chat with Carolyn Teigland on navigating DEI language in restrictive contexts.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/creating-a-culture-of-honor-in-education-an-interview-with-andratesha-fritzgerald/

Dr. Shelley Moore (she/her) — Educator, researcher, speaker, and storyteller based in Vancouver, BC. Shelley focuses on equity and inclusion for all learners; her work (including the bestselling One Without the Other) helps schools design learning that’s accessible from the start, not retrofitted later. Season 11 kicks off with Dr. Shelley Moore breaking down the 5 Ps of Inclusive Education—Positive attitude, Placement, Peers, Purpose, and Plan for all—and how these pillars make secondary inclusion real, not just aspirational. She shares research, concrete school examples (including students with intellectual disabilities earning high‑school credit), and a PD approach that actually shifts practice. We also hear about system barriers like LRE misinterpretations and overreliance on one‑to‑one adult support, along with why student voice and universally designed lessons matter for everyone.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/the-5-ps-of-inclusive-education-with-dr-shelley-moore/

Michael Boll — technology coach and educator who helps teachers learn and use AI. He leads professional learning, focuses on practical classroom use (brainstorming, lesson ideas, tutoring support), and thinks a lot about how to guide—not block—AI in schools. Michael also shares how parenting a son with profound autism shapes his views on learning and support.Tim and Michael unpack what AI can (and can’t) do in schools right now, cutting through hype and fear. They talk about everyday teacher uses (brainstorming, drafting, adapting lessons), the ethics of student use and citation, and the promise of AI tutors to personalize learning—especially for students with disabilities—if educators lead with clear structures and guardrails. The big message: learn the tools, expect some mess, and guide the narrative together.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/bonus-exploring-the-potential-and-ethical-implications-of-ai-in-education/

Tany Holzworth is a content designer for inclusive classroom tools at Microsoft. With a background in education and a passion for inclusion, Tany has worked to create tools and programs that support diverse learners and promote accessibility.In this bonus episode of Think Inclusive, Tim Villegas talks with Tany Holzworth, Content Designer for Inclusive Classroom Tools at Microsoft. Tany shares her journey from working as a paraprofessional and building an inclusive volunteer program at Woodland Park Zoo to designing accessible tools for educators. The conversation explores practical strategies for fostering inclusion, lessons learned about mindset and accessibility, and highlights Microsoft tools like Immersive Reader and Reading Progress that support diverse learners.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/bonus-building-inclusive-classroom-tools-a-conversation-with-tany-holzworth/

Carolyn is the CEO of the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education (MCIE). She previously served as the Associate Superintendent for Cecil County Public Schools and has extensive experience in promoting inclusive education. Carol is one of the founders and former CEO of MCIE, having transitioned to Director of Special Projects in 2023. She has worked closely with school districts in Maryland and other states to promote systems change and school transformation. In this episode of Think Inclusive, Tim interviews Carolyn and Carol as they discuss the organization's history and its partnership with school districts since 1990. They highlight the importance of leadership in sustaining inclusive education and share success stories of students who have thrived in inclusive classrooms. The guests also discuss the challenges and trends in the educational landscape, including the focus on equity and the need for universal design for learning. They emphasize the need for comprehensive professional learning and job-embedded coaching to support educators in implementing inclusive practices. The episode concludes with a discussion on how families and educators can advocate for inclusive education and the future plans of MCIE.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/carolyn-teigland-and-carol-quirk-mcie-partners-with-school-districts-to-promote-inclusion-and-equity/

DJ Nicholson is an experienced educator and advocate for inclusive education. She has a background in special education and has worked with students with disabilities for many years. DJ is passionate about finding innovative ways to support learners with disabilities and believes that technology, including AI, can play a crucial role in creating inclusive learning environments.In this episode, DJ Nicholson and Tim Villegas discuss the use of artificial intelligence (AI) in supporting learners with disabilities. They explore the potential benefits of AI in leveling text and making reading more accessible for students with different reading abilities. They also discuss the challenges and opportunities of using AI in the classroom, as well as the importance of individualized learning and student choice. The conversation highlights the need for educators to embrace AI as a tool to enhance learning experiences and promote independence for students with disabilities.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/bonus-using-ai-to-support-learners-with-disabilities-in-the-classroom/

Luvy Jenkins is the Education Manager and Medical Outreach Manager at the Down Syndrome Association of Central Texas (DSACT). With a background in special education, Louie is passionate about promoting inclusion and providing resources and support to educators and families of children with Down syndrome.Luvy Jenkins, Education Manager at the Down Syndrome Association of Central Texas (DSACT), discusses the importance of inclusion in education and the barriers that families face in achieving inclusive education for their children with Down syndrome. Luvy highlights the need for support and training for teachers, as well as the role of school administrators in promoting inclusion. She also shares her experience working at the RISE School, an inclusive preschool that values diversity and fosters social-emotional growth in all students.Complete shows notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/luvy-jenkins-down-syndrome-association-of-central-texas-dsact/

Oaklee Thiele is a young artist and disability advocate. She co-founded The My Dearest Friends Project with DisArt in March 2020 to create a public platform where disabled people could share their stories and experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic.Lawrence Carter-Long is the Director of Communications for DisArt and has a background in disability advocacy. He joined the organization in 2022 and has been instrumental in expanding the reach and impact of The My Dearest Friends Project.Oaklee and Lawrence discuss The My Dearest Friends Project and its connection to the Nothing Special campaign. The project was created to provide a platform for disabled people to share their stories and experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic. The hashtag #NothingSpecial was developed to challenge the idea that inclusive education is something special and should be the norm. The project aims to collect stories from disabled students and educators to create a curriculum that promotes inclusive education. Oaklee shares her personal experience of facing ableism and inaccessibility at her college, highlighting the need for change in educational institutions. Lawrence emphasizes the importance of listening to disabled people and involving them in the decision-making process to create truly inclusive environments.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/oaklee-thiele-and-lawrence-carter-long-the-my-dearest-friends-project/

Beth Liesenfeld (she/her) — Occupational therapist and founder of The IEP Lab, where she equips parents with “insider” understanding of school processes and culture to make IEP teams more collaborative and child‑centered. She hosts The Parent IEP Lab podcast and offers online workshops and courses for families navigating special education. Host Tim Villegas talks with Beth Liesenfeld about why IEP meetings often feel inequitable and exhausting—and how a clear vision statement can re‑center teams on inclusive, practical plans that actually support students. They unpack what makes collaboration work (and fail), including communication habits, paraprofessional training, and making specialized instruction happen in general education through real co‑planning time. Beth offers a step‑by‑step way to craft long‑ and short‑term vision statements, plus tips educators can use to advocate for inclusion—even when families or districts are hesitant.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/beth-liesenfeld-the-parent-iep-lab/

Raul Krauthausen is a renowned disability rights activist, social entrepreneur, and founder of the nonprofit organization Sozialhelden (Social Heroes) in Germany. For more than 15 years, Raul has worked to advance accessibility and inclusion through innovative projects and advocacy. He is best known for creating Wheelmap, a crowdsourced online map that identifies wheelchair-accessible places worldwide, and for his campaigns challenging discriminatory laws and practices in Germany.Raul is also a prolific communicator—blogger, podcaster, and author—who uses media to shift perceptions about disability. His work spans technology, design thinking, and social change, with a focus on ensuring that inclusion is recognized as a fundamental right, not a privilege. Through initiatives like Broken Lifts (real-time elevator status for public transport) and media guidelines for journalists, Raul continues to push for systemic change and equal opportunities for people with disabilities.In this episode, Tim Villegas talks with Raul Krauthausen, a German disability rights activist, founder of Sozialhelden (Social Heroes), and creator of Wheelmap, a crowdsourced map for accessible places. Raul shares his journey from attending one of Berlin’s first inclusive schools to becoming a leading advocate for accessibility and inclusion in Germany. The conversation explores cultural differences between the U.S. and Germany regarding inclusion, the role of acceptance, and why inclusion is not “happy land” but a continuous process of learning and equity.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/raul-krauthausen-inclusion-in-germany/

Susan Stone — Attorney and co-leader of the Student & Athlete Defense Group at KJK in Cleveland. Susan has over 30 years of experience advocating for students, with a focus on special education law and student discipline. She’s also a nationally published author and co-host of Real Talk with Susan and Kristina.Kristina Supler — Attorney and co-leader of the Student & Athlete Defense Group at KJK. Kristina represents students in academic misconduct and Title IX cases nationwide. She’s passionate about protecting student rights and co-hosts Real Talk with Susan and Kristina.In this episode, Susan Stone and Kristina Supler share what it’s like to advocate for students with disabilities navigating academic and disciplinary challenges. From IEPs and 504 plans to Title IX cases and college misconduct proceedings, they explain why inclusion requires more than good intentions—it demands real systems of support. They also discuss how their podcast tackles tough parenting and student issues.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/susan-stone-and-kristina-supler-real-talk/

Colleen Tomko — Parent advocate, artist, and president of Kids Together, an all-volunteer nonprofit promoting inclusion. A Penn State graduate and Partners in Policymaking alum, Colleen has dedicated her life to ensuring that all children, including her son Shawn, have access to inclusive education and community life.In this episode, Tim Villegas talks with Colleen Tomko about her lifelong advocacy for inclusive education and community belonging. From founding Kids Together to creating powerful advocacy cartoons, Colleen shares her personal journey, the systemic barriers families face, and why inclusion is a civil rights issue—not just an educational choice.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/colleen-tomko-kids-together/

Adam Walker and Sanjay Parekh are the co-founders of https://togetherletters.com, a platform designed to help people stay connected without relying on social media. Both are seasoned entrepreneurs and podcasters—Adam co-hosts Tech Talk Y’all, and Sanjay brings years of experience in tech and community building. Together, they’re passionate about creating tools that foster authentic, private connections.In this bonus episode, Tim talks with Adam Walker and Sanjay Parekh about Together Letters—a simple, email-based way to keep groups connected without the noise of social media. They share why they built it, how it works, and why it’s a game-changer for educators, teams, and anyone craving authentic connection.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/bonus-together-letters/

Mirko Chardin is the Chief Equity & Inclusion Officer at Novak Education. He previously served as the founding Head of School at Putnam Avenue Upper School in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He co‑authored Equity by Design: The Power and Promise of UDL with Dr. Katie Novak and facilitates learning on topics such as implicit bias, microaggressions, Universal Design for Learning (UDL), restorative practices, identity, and courageous conversations about race.In this conversation, Mirko Chardin urges educators and leaders to reclaim the narrative around “equity” by grounding it in clear, shared definitions and everyday practice—what he calls “concept stabilization.” He argues that school is for kids, not adults, and that listening to learner voices and removing barriers must guide decisions at every level. The episode also explores UDL as a framework (not a bag of tips) for building cultures where all learners can become expert learners, supported by leadership that prioritizes humanity, reflection, and authentic impact.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/mirko-chardin-reclaiming-the-narrative-around-educational-equity/

Dr. Kate de Bruin — inclusive education academic at Monash University (Melbourne, Australia). Her work focuses on evidence‑informed practices and policies that improve participation and learning for all students, with an emphasis on students with disabilities. She has taught in secondary and higher education, designs inclusive education coursework for Master’s programs, and serves on the academic advisory board of All Means All – The Australian Alliance for Inclusive Education.Tim and Kate unpack how Australia’s highly decentralised education systems shape inclusion, why segregated “special schools” and units persist, and what accountability gaps mean for students with disabilities. They also dig into Kate’s classroom story—rallying a whole staff to create accessible texts and explicit writing supports—and the mindsets, coaching, and MTSS‑style approaches that help inclusion work in real classrooms.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/dr-kate-de-bruin-inclusive-education-in-australia/

AZ Chapman is a writer, athlete, and disability advocate from California. Diagnosed with cerebral palsy as a toddler, AZ has navigated life with determination and resilience. She earned her bachelor’s degree in Liberal Studies with a minor in Special Education from California State University East Bay. AZ is also a passionate Special Olympics competitor, having participated in events like swimming, track, basketball, soccer, bocce, bowling, and golf. Her new children’s book, Cerebral Palsy Party, introduces elementary school students to peers with CP in an accessible and engaging way.In this episode, Tim Villegas interviews AZ Chapman about her debut children’s book Cerebral Palsy Party, which aims to educate young students about cerebral palsy and promote inclusion. AZ shares her personal journey through education, the challenges she faced in middle and high school, and her aspirations to become a special education teacher. The conversation also touches on the importance of kindness, accessibility, and advocacy for people with disabilities.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/az-chapman-cerebral-palsy-party/

Tim Villegas from the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education connects with Simone Morris and Julie Kratz, hosts of the Inclusion School podcast, to explore the intersection of inclusive schools and the diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) space. They discuss the importance of DEI initiatives in schools, strategies for allyship with marginalized groups, and the significance of addressing racism, sexism, homophobia, and ableism with children. They delve into the societal and educational challenges of promoting inclusion and belonging, with insights into disability and diversity awareness in educational settings.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/julie-kratz-and-simone-morris-inclusion-school/

Gage Robinson is a 19-year-old college student at Dakota County Technical College in Rosemount, Minnesota. He’s a passionate self-advocate who fought for his right to inclusive education and now shares his story to inspire others. Gage runs a nonprofit called Gage Gives Back, where he educates about traumatic brain injury and shaken baby syndrome, and supports organizations that helped him succeed. He’s also a public speaker who has presented at regional, national, and international conferences.In this episode, Gage Robinson shares his journey from being segregated in a self-contained classroom to advocating for his right to attend college alongside his peers. We talk about his due process battle with his school district, his testimony at the Minnesota State Legislature, and what inclusive higher education looks like for him today.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/gage-robinson-a-self-advocacy-story-2/

Carolyn Kiel is a corporate instructional designer and the host of Beyond 6 Seconds, a podcast that spotlights neurodivergent and disabled entrepreneurs, creators, and advocates. She’s a late‑identified autistic adult who uses her platform to share first‑person stories that challenge stereotypes and expand understanding.In this conversation, Tim talks with Carolyn about why she started Beyond 6 Seconds, how the show’s name pushes back on snap judgments, and what led her to focus the podcast on neurodiversity. Carolyn shares her journey to a late autism diagnosis, the relief of having language for lifelong experiences, and the habits that help her regulate and work (yes to stim and fidget tools). Together, they dig into what inclusion really looks like: listening first, trusting people’s lived experience, and offering practical accommodations without gatekeeping. For educators, Carolyn’s core message is simple—learn from neurodivergent adults and presume competence, especially for nonspeaking students who may need different communication supports. Listeners will leave with concrete ways to shift classroom mindsets and amplify authentic neurodivergent voices.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/carolyn-kiel-beyond-six-seconds-2/

Alma Zaragoza‑Petty (she/her) — Mexican American activist, scholar, and podcast host; author of Chingona: Owning Your Inner Badass for Healing and Justice. She advises and counsels first‑generation, low‑income students and teaches equity-focused coursework to working professionals at USC, with a personal and scholarly focus on intergenerational healing.Alma Zaragoza‑Petty shares how reclaiming the word “chingona”—once used to silence Latina women—can fuel personal healing and collective justice. She unpacks intergenerational trauma, practical steps for healing (acknowledgment, memory work, retelling our stories, and forgiveness), and how educators and mentors can change trajectories for students who have been underserved.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/alma-zaragoza-petty-unpacking-intergenerational-trauma-and-healing-2/

Hilda Bernier — Educator with a special education license and bilingual extension who has taught mostly integrated co‑teaching classes (and some self‑contained high‑school classes). As a parent, she describes how evaluation reports and an early IEP meeting pushed against inclusion for her son, Emilio, and how seeing the Henderson Inclusion School shifted her perspective on what’s possible.Olivier Bernier — Filmmaker and father who turned the camera on his family to make Forget Me Not, documenting their fight for inclusive education in New York City and the realities of IEP meetings. He aims to spark wider conversations about inclusion and accessible schooling for all learners.Tim talks with Hilda and Olivier Bernier about their documentary Forget Me Not, which follows their son Emilio’s path into school and their push for inclusion within a segregated system. They discuss what went wrong in early evaluations and IEPs, what good inclusion looks like, and how Emilio is thriving today in a fully included kindergarten.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/hilda-and-olivier-bernier-forget-me-not-documentary-2/

Ryan Wilson is the founder and director of Team Trust Productions, a disability‑led media company that partners with mission‑driven organizations to tell authentic stories of people with disabilities. He launched Team Trust after an early documentary project (“Seeing With Trust”) and now works with nonprofits and higher‑ed institutions to make marketing more accessible and inclusive. Ryan lives with Osteogenesis Imperfecta and speaks from lived experience about access, belonging, and representation.Tim Villegas talks with Ryan Wilson about what authentic disability representation looks like—and why it matters in schools, higher education, and media. They dig into common pitfalls (the “inspiration” trope), practical fixes (accessibility in video and web, ASL, real stories), and how personal connections with students change outcomes.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/ryan-wilson-team-trust-2/

Mary Beth Moore — Author of Unwanted: Fighting to Belong and founder/executive director of The Advocacy Underground. She studied political science and criminal justice at UNC Charlotte, served in the U.S. Marine Corps, worked as a DoD intelligence analyst and later as a marketing leader. She uses storytelling to make special education law and research accessible to families and educators. She’s also Gavin’s mom.When school leaders say yes to inclusion, everything changes. In this conversation, Mary Beth Moore shares how her son Gavin—who has Down syndrome, is nonverbal, and is still working on early literacy and numeracy—thrives in a fourth‑grade general education classroom because a principal chose to welcome him and build support. She contrasts that with systems that default to no, explores why implementation (not new law) is the bottleneck, and offers practical ways families and districts can move from conflict to collaboration. The through‑line: inclusion isn’t about meeting grade‑level benchmarks—it’s about belonging, support, and leadership willing to try.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/mary-beth-moore-unwanted-2/

Cheryl Green is an access artist who’s spent a decade creating creative, immersive captions and five years crafting audio description, drawing on lived experience with chronic illness and invisible disabilities. She’s collaborated with disability‑focused organizations including Superfest International Disability Film Festival, Disability Visibility Project, and Kinetic Light; she’s also produced documentary films and makes (and transcribes) the storytelling podcast Pigeonhole.Thomas Reid became blind in 2004 and reignited a long‑standing passion for audio. Selected as a “new voice scholar” by an association for independent radio in 2014, he launched Reid My Mind Radio, featuring compelling people impacted by blindness and disability—and, at times, reflective stories from his own life. He’s widely recognized for covering audio description and now narrates AD and other voiceover work.Host Tim Villegas talks with Cheryl Green and Thomas Reid about storytelling by disabled creators, why medicalized “how it happened” narratives aren’t the only (or best) way to tell disability stories, and how to center community voice without objectifying guests. The conversation introduces Pod Access—a new effort bringing disabled podcasters and listeners together through a resource hub and companion podcast—while exploring language shifts, like Thomas Reid’s move from “vision loss” to “blind,” and the importance of owning one’s story. They close with messages for educators about believing and following the lead of students with invisible disabilities and chronic illness, and a reminder that what teachers say can shape a student’s self‑concept for years.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/cheryl-green-thomas-reid-pod-access-2/

Katie Novak is an internationally recognized education consultant, author of 11 books, graduate instructor at the University of Pennsylvania, and former assistant superintendent in Massachusetts. With over 20 years of experience in teaching and administration and a doctorate in curriculum and teaching, Katie specializes in Universal Design for Learning (UDL), Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS), and universally designed leadership. She designs and delivers workshops nationally and internationally to help educators implement inclusive practices.Katie Novak breaks down what UDL really is—and isn’t—by centering three ideas: the dynamic variability of learners, firm goals with flexible means, and growing expert learners who can co-design their own paths. She clarifies how UDL (first-best, proactive design) fits alongside differentiated instruction (responsive grouping) and specially designed instruction (individualized supports), including for students with extensive support needs. The conversation also tackles common misconceptions about “choice,” rigor, and equity, and offers practical starting points so overwhelmed educators can move one step forward without trying to “do it all” at once.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/katie-novak-udl-now-2/

Michael Giangreco is a University Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Special Education at the University of Vermont and is affiliated with the UVM Center on Disability and Community Inclusion. He’s authored over 200 publications, presented across the U.S. and internationally, and is known for the “Absurdities and Realities of Special Education” cartoon collection, created to spark reflection and change in inclusive education.Tim talks with Michael about why many schools over-rely on paraprofessionals for inclusion and how that can unintentionally create dependency, block peer relationships, reduce teacher ownership, and limit access to qualified instruction. Michael offers a simple shift: teachers take instructional ownership, special educators co-plan and co-facilitate, and paraprofessionals support the teachers (not attach 1:1 to students), all within inclusion‑oriented schools using natural proportions. They close with the story behind Michael’s cartoons and why humor and candor help the field move forward.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/michael-giangreco-on-the-overreliance-of-paraprofessionals-to-implement-inclusive-education-2/

Melissa Defayette — Third‑year PhD student in Special Education at the University of Maryland; advanced to candidacy in Fall 2022. Her research focuses on designing and implementing math interventions for students with moderate to severe disabilities in general education settings aligned to grade‑level content. She previously taught special education in Maryland for about seven years and has co‑authored three articles with a research team led by her advisor, Dr. Yakubova.Note: In the interview (recorded early 2022), Melissa describes being a second‑year PhD student preparing for candidacy; she later achieved candidacy in Fall 2022.Tim and Melissa dig into the gap between research and classroom practice in inclusive education—why we have decades of evidence for social and communication benefits but far less on academic outcomes for students with extensive support needs. They talk candidly about teacher mindsets, alternate assessments, and shifting from chasing “the standard” to measuring growth, and Melissa shares how a middle‑school moment first pushed her toward inclusion advocacy.Complete notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/melissa-defayette-transitioning-from-teacher-to-researcher-2/

Temple Grandin, PhD — Professor of Animal Science, Colorado State University Dr. Grandin is a renowned author and advocate whose work bridges animal welfare, education, and neurodiversity. She’s written multiple New York Times bestsellers—including Animals in Translation, Animals Make Us Human, The Autistic Brain, and Thinking in Pictures—and her life story was portrayed in the HBO film Temple Grandin starring Claire Danes.In her newest book, Visual Thinking, she argues that schools and industries undervalue “object visualizers” like herself, calling for the return of hands‑on classes and practical pathways so visual thinkers can thrive—skills she ties directly to real‑world innovation and workforce needs.Dr. Temple Grandin explains why “visual thinking” matters for students, workplaces, and society—making the case that removing shop and other hands‑on classes has created a skills gap while screening out talented visual thinkers with algebra‑heavy requirements. She shares simple, low‑cost design fixes (from airport accessibility to animal‑welfare audits) and outlines how exposure, mentoring, and flexible pathways help all learners—especially autistic students—build meaningful careers.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/dr-temple-grandin-visual-thinking-2/

Ashley Barlow — Special education attorney practicing in the Greater Cincinnati area (licensed in Kentucky and Ohio), parent and self‑advocate, former K–12 German teacher, and host of Special Education Advocacy with Ashley Barlow. She runs Ashley Barlow Company, which offers reasonably priced resources and digital courses for parents and advocates, and serves as Director of Education at the National Down Syndrome Congress. 1Tim Villegas — Host of Think Inclusive and Director of Communications at the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education (MCIE). A former special education teacher of 16 years, Tim founded Think Inclusive to learn, connect with self‑advocates and educators, and share practical stories about authentic, supported inclusion.This crossover conversation flips the script: Tim Villegas and Ashley Barlow interview each other about what authentic inclusive education looks like and how to advocate for it—practically, legally, and system‑wide. They unpack how dear colleague letters and policy documents can strengthen IEP advocacy, why placement, membership, participation, and learning must all be present for inclusion to be real, and how “perfectly imperfect” is a healthy mindset for doing the work. They also spotlight district‑level systems change grounded in implementation science and share real‑world examples (like Cecil County Public Schools) where “general education first” is the norm.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/ashley-barlow-perfectly-imperfect-advocacy/

Jay Ruderman is the President of the Ruderman Family Foundation, a philanthropic organization dedicated to inclusion, diversity, and social justice. A lifelong social justice activist, Jay has championed disability rights and worked to hold the entertainment industry accountable for authentic representation. He also hosts the podcast All About Change, which highlights stories of activism and resilience.In this episode, Tim Villegas talks with Jay Ruderman about his journey as an activist, the evolution of the Ruderman Family Foundation, and the fight for authentic representation of people with disabilities in media. They explore how advocacy strategies can influence systemic change, the power of storytelling, and why allyship is essential for creating a more inclusive society.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/jay-ruderman-all-about-change/

Debbie Taub — TASH board member and technical assistance provider with the TIES Center, a national TA center focused on building inclusive systems for students with the most significant cognitive disabilities. Also brings a parent perspective as a mom advocating at the IEP table. Diane Ryndak — Professor at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro; co‑chair of TASH’s Inclusive Education Community of Practice (CoP), former TASH board member, and affiliated with the TIES Center on inclusive practices and policies. Mary Fisher — Faculty at Lewis University (Romeoville, IL); co‑director of the TASH Inclusive Education CoP and long‑time TASH member since 1977. Focuses on teacher preparation and practical ways schools move toward inclusion. Members of the TASH Inclusive Education Community of Practice break down what fully inclusive schools look like and how to get there—moving from “one student at a time” fixes to systemic change at school, district, and state levels. They highlight presuming competence, high expectations, explicit communication instruction, and clear placement in general education as non‑negotiables, and point listeners to tools (like TIES Center’s RISE/IER) that help teams reflect and plan. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/tash-characteristics-of-fully-inclusive-schools/

Charmaine Thaner is an inclusion advocate and founder of Collaborative Special Education Advocacy. She’s a former self‑contained special education teacher who became a general education teacher for 15 years, and now works alongside families and schools to make inclusive education real. She also hosts the long‑running Facebook Live series The Art of Advocacy. Her path runs from Slippery Rock State College in the 1970s, to early work in Colorado schools, to serving as an education specialist with the PEAK Parent Center (Colorado’s PTI). As a parent, she and her husband advocated for full inclusion for their son, Dylan, who has Down syndrome—from community preschool through college—experiences that shape her practical, relationship‑first approach today. Charmaine launched her advocacy business (originally Visions and Voices Together, now Collaborative Special Education Advocacy) to blend lived experience and professional know‑how and to stand with families in meetings when communication and trust have broken down. In this episode, Tim Villegas talks with Charmaine Thaner about what it really takes to move inclusion from idea to everyday practice. Charmaine traces her journey from self‑contained teaching to general education and district collaboration, and then to parent‑advocacy after her son Dylan was born—highlighting why “relationships, relationships, relationships” are the three R’s of effective advocacy. They dig into the rise, stall, and renewal of inclusive education, Dylan’s fully included path (including auditing classes at the University of Colorado - Colorado Springs with support from allies on campus), and the hard truth that some schools still isolate students despite paper “inclusion.” Charmaine shares when to ask for help, how to keep it collaborative (and when to escalate), and why broader coalitions—parents, self‑advocates, and educators—are pushing for changes like ending seclusion and restraint and implementing UDL with fidelity. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/charmaine-thaner-the-art-of-advocacy/

Kanwal Singh — former Director of the Vishwas school (India) and author of Hanging On: A Special Educator’s Journey into Inclusive Education (published in 2020). She began her career in 1988 at the Spastic Society of Northern India and has spent more than three decades moving from special education to integration to inclusion. Currently, she consults with the UK-based Enabling Education Network, supporting inclusive education and teacher training programs in Ethiopia and Uganda.Kanwal Singh shares her journey from leading special schools to building a fully inclusive model at Vishwas in India—removing labels, simplifying language, and centering the idea of “all students together.” She explains why teacher preparation often teaches inclusion in theory but defaults to special-ed practices in reality, and what it takes to sustain inclusion: aligned people, systems, and funding.Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/kanwal-singh-inclusive-education-in-india/

Russ Ewell — Founder of E‑soccer and Digital Scribbler; CEO of Hope Technology Group; host of the Lead Different Podcast; and father of children with disabilities. His inclusion journey began when his eldest son was born with Down syndrome, which led him to create inclusive sports programs so kids with and without disabilities could play together.When Russ Ewell saw his son segregated in youth sports, he built a different model—launching E‑soccer to bring kids together on the same field. In this conversation with Tim Villegas, Russ unpacks what inclusive leadership looks like: empathy, compassion, emotional intelligence, and the humility to keep learning. They also discuss the everyday “micro‑moments” that either build or undermine inclusion (like at a coffee shop), and why culture—not just programs—determines whether people gain independence or remain isolated. Tim closes by sharing his own path from psychology student to inclusive educator, sparked by a classroom observation and strengthened by planning around student strengths. Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/russ-ewell-inclusive-leadership/