The SwimSwam Podcast

Olympic Champion and Team Speedo Athlete, Cody Miller, drops in on the SwimSwam podcast revealing his hopes and dreams for his juggernaut YouTube series Cody Miller Adventures. Cody has redefined the language of swimming media, and he's redefined what it means to be a pro swimmer. While Cody owns Olympic gold, his YouTube series deserves a gold medal for his mastery of film and his personal connection to his fans. Cody's transparent and vulnerable--in the most courageous ways. That combination has netted him the biggest swim-audience among YouTubers. Cody gets raw and real, providing context on his U.S. Olympic Trials experience and what's in-store for him as a pro swimmer. Cody unpacks International Swimming League politics in a way that only an active pro with “insider knowledge” can. Lastly he gets personal again sharing his MAKE WAVES moment, and he details his go-to Speedo gear. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss USA's Short Course Worlds selection procedure and how it could improve, Kyle Chalmers' historic 100 free in Kazan, and Katie Ledecky's racing debut since moving to Florida. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

While competing on day 2 of the final FINA World Cup stop in Kazan, multi-Olympic medalist Chalmers blasted a time of 44.84 to not only stand atop the podium here but also stand atop the list of fastest men ever in the event. His time overtakes the previous storied World Record of 44.94, a time Frenchman Amaury Leveaux put on the books over a decade ago in 2008. Since then, many have come close, including Russia’s Vlad Morozov who hit 44.95 in 2018 but the record stood tall…until tonight. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with Timmy Hayes, Scot Robison, and Kyle Shoemaker, the 3 co-founders of Nica Nadadores in Nicaragua. Nica not only teaches kids how to swim and gives them an outlet to train in the pool, but it also helps them out of the pool with their education via scholarships and opportunities for better schools. Timmy, Scot, and Kyle each discuss their swimming backgrounds and what brought them to this project as well as how it has impacted their lives and the lives of those in this community. Check out the Nica Nadadores here. See our write-up on the Nadadores in 2014 here. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss Jeanette Ottesen's book release and what it means that she admits to the longterm bullying of former teammate Lotte Friis, ISL athlete's nearly boycotting over continued league non-payments, and Brooks Curry throwing down a spicy practice swim at the end of a workout. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with Jim Bolster, the head coach for the Columbia men's team (who we recently filmed a Practice + Pancakes with) who is in his 38th season at the helm. Bolster boasts a very athletic background, being 1 of 14 and growing up with access to the Princeton athletic facilities. He was a 4-time letter athlete in swimming, soccer, and lacrosse at Denison University, winning an NCAA DIII title in the 200 fly and going to the NCAA tournament in soccer. He then started competing in triathlons, where he had success for 20+ years as a masters competitor. Bolster speaks on his philosophy on staying active and what that has taught him about coaching along the way. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Dan Eisenhardt, FORM Founder and CEO, has chlorine in his blood. He loves the sport, and that passion has driven his innovation developing the industry-groundbreaking FORM Smart Swim Goggles. Founded in 2016 in Vancouver, Canada, FORM is the tech-enabled swim platform with a simple mission: to break down the barriers between what swimming is and what it could be. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Olympic medalist Bella Sims, who swam on the prelims of the 800 free relay in Tokyo at 16 years old as the 2nd youngest member of the US Olympic team, only older than her club teammate and training partner, Katie Grimes. Sims goes in-depth on her expectations heading into trials, her day-to-day training in Las Vegas, and what it was like being a teenager at the Olympic Games. Sims also talks about crying before all of her races, less-than-ideal open water swims, and not realizing that prelims swimmers got medals too. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the myriad of coaching changes that were reported last week, the wave of new international teenage talent on the men's side, and the fact weekend of racing from the NCAA. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with 3x Olympic champion from Tokyo, Kaylee McKeown. We start by discussing where she's at currently, including recovering from a torn labrum she sustained before the Olympic Games and trying out a myriad of different training groups in Queensland. Then we get into her Olympic experience, where she dissects both of her individual wins in the 100 and 200 back as well as her contributions of Australia's gold medal 400 medley relay and bronze medal mixed 400 medley relay. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with 3x World Jr Record holder and 2020 Olympic semi-finalist, Matt Sates. For 18 years of age, Sates has a plethora of swim knowledge and insight which he was kind enough to share with us on today's podcast. Sates breaks down all 3 of his world Jr record performances as well as other races throughout the world cup and what he has to do to get the best out of himself in each race. The South African Olympic also discusses training with Chad le Clos for 3 weeks before their Olympic Trials (and racing 20x200 best average), why he purposefully doesn't lift, and coming to Georgia to compete in the NCAA this coming winter. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Dan Eisenhardt, FORM Founder and CEO, has chlorine in his blood. He loves the sport, and that passion has driven his innovation developing the industry-groundbreaking FORM Smart Swim Goggles. Founded in 2016 in Vancouver, Canada, FORM is the tech-enabled swim platform with a simple mission: to break down the barriers between what swimming is and what it could be. FORM uses smart goggles and guided real-time workouts to make swimming endlessly motivating and fun. With a FORM membership, swimmers can access guided workouts and performance metrics in real-time through the in-goggle display. Using the FORM Swim App, swimmers of all levels can be supported in their long-term fitness goals by selecting from an extensive library of workouts and, once selected, can be guided through their workout in real-time, as they swim. The FORM Smart Swim Goggles are available at www.formswim.com and Amazon. FORM is a SwimSwam partner. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Olympic champion and Breaststroke queen, Lilly King, to discuss the brand new pool in her hometown of Evansville, Indiana and her swimming in the last couple of months. King walks us through her time in ISL this season and how she got back into the swing of racing coming off of the Olympics, as well as what her "off-season" looked like and why she like to stay in the water for the majority of that time. King also describes her experience at the 2020 Olympic Games, where she went into the meet as the defending Olympic champion in the 100 breast and heavy favorite to win gold. King goes into what she felt after winning bronze in that race, then coming off of the surprise loss and earning silver in the 200, her first Olympic medal in that event. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discussed the sizzling swims at the 2nd stop of the FINA World Cup, the NCAA season getting into full swing, and Adam Peaty's future in dancing. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with NCAA champion and Texas Swimming Alum, JT Larson. Larson, who just started a new job at Dell in Austin, Texas, is a 4-year graduate of the Eddie Reese distance squad, slugging it out with the likes of Clark Smith, Jack Collins, and more on a daily basis and even etching his name into the ranks of All-Americans for the Longhorns. Larson shares his experience in Austin, from the team culture to a look into daily practices and who was ahead of the pack majority of the time. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with 17-year-old South African Olympian and recent UVA commit for the class of 2022, Aimee Canny. Canny talks us through what it's like qualifying for her first Olympics at just 17 as well as doing so without having ever trained in a long course pool. She also discusses what made her want to pursue the NCAA, her current studies in the United Kingdom, and her first international meet experience at the 2019 World Jr Championships. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This Week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss our top recruit for the Class of 2022, Claire Curzan, finally announcing her college commitment (Stanford), Matt Sates impressing with 2 World Jr Records in Berlin, and Mike Unger leaving USA Swimming and what that means for the Tim Hinchey era. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with Energy Standard's Mary-Sophie Harvey, who has had a breakout 3rd season for the ISL juggernaut. Harvey explains how she specialized her training heading into the 2020 Olympic Games and found out she enjoyed it, so continued to do so into the ISL season with success throughout each match. Harvey also discusses following her age-group coach, Tom Rushton, to Turkey as a 17-year-old when he made the move to go coach the Energy Standard club at Gloria Sports Arena in 2017. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

After earning a spot in the play-offs, Iron's head coach Luka Gabrilo and skins champion Thom de Boer sat down to field questions about the match. de Boer delved into his approach to the freestyle skins race, which he has now won on 3 out of 3 occasions this season, even speaking to his training and how he does a lot of lactate swims in normal training. Coach Luka explains that their men's B 400 free relay, which went slower than the DC Trident-winning women's A 400 free relay, was a necessary piece of their overall match success. Since Iron was short on sprinters, they chose to put non-freestyle specialists in the relay in order to save swimmers like Luiz Altamir Melo who could score significant points in the 400 free. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

The DC Trident held off a late push from Iron to win their first ISL match in franchise history on Thursday, putting up 506 points to place first in the do-or-die Play-In Match and move on to the ISL Playoffs in November. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with SwimSwam Editor-in-Chief Braden Keith and SwimSwam Data Expert Barry Revzin to analyze day 1 of the 2021 ISL Play-In match. Let's just get it out of the way: I was very wrong. I thought Tokyo and Iron looked primed to move through the play-in match smoothly, but Braden had quickly pointed out that DC was a strong contender not to be overlooked. Flash forward to today. DC is leading Iron for 1st by 50 points. That is not a typo. Braden and Barry both give professional insight and numbers into why this is and the other teams' chances of making the play-offs moving into day 2. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss Shaine Casas going Pro, Noe Ponti leaving NC State to head home to Switzerland, and the Chinese National Games. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with Team Iron's Captain, Ranomi Kromowidjojo, and General Manager, Dorina Szekeres, after a hard-fought battle in Match #10. Each give their perspective on how Team Iron has moved through the regular season and their expectations for what to expect in the play-in match on Wednesday. Kromo also reveals that to her surprise, getting through 3-rounds of butterfly skins was actually easier than 3 rounds of freestyle. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Ingrid Wilm, the surprise backstroking sensation for the LA Current that has leveled up throughout this regular season. Wilm gives us insight into what her normal training in Canada looks like and why she's been able to translate that into the ISL race-heavy training. She also describes her experience at the 2021 Olympic Trials and how she has come out of a 3rd place finish better than ever. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Energy Standard's GM James Gibson and freestyle ace Siobhan Haughey to discuss their Match #8 win as well as their ISL regular season as a whole. Gibson shares his thoughts on compiling their heavy-hitting mixed medley relay last Sunday and the jackpot scoring system. Siobhan gives insight as to where she thought she'd be for the ISL regular season and how she's been able to race so consistently in the league (she nabbed her 12th career win in the 200 free last match). SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

As reported earlier today, Katie Ledecky will be moving from her longtime home of Stanford under head coach Greg Meehan to the University of Florida, where she will train and volunteer coach under head coach Anthony Nesty. SwimSwam's Braden Keith, Torrey Hart, and I discuss what this move means for Ledecky's career, Nesty's notoriety as a head coach, and the potential for Florida's women's program on the collegiate and post-grad side. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we talk about ISL highlights including Sarah Sjostrom's surprise comeback and Madi Wilson's surprise departure, Shayna Jack being cleared for competition once again, and we play Sink or Swim on a myriad of this week's top news SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora

We sat down with Energy Standard's Tom Rushton, the head coach for the ISL club in its 3rd season. Rushton starts our discussion with the humble beginnings of Energy Standard from 2017, when he and James Gibson started training a small group of athletes at Gloria Sports Arena in Hungary in preparation for the 2020 Olympic Games. We then turn to topics such as mid-distance training, prepping different athletes for ISL-type of racing, and altitude training camp after the ISL regular season. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

For the first time in the history of the ISL, jackpot points decided the winner of Match 8, favoring Energy Standard over the London Roar. If the jackpot points are removed then the London Roar would have actually beaten Energy Standard by the narrow margin of 11.5 points. Neither team received enough penalty deductions to sway the outcome, and their checkpoint points nearly even out. Until Match 8, jackpot points had only affected the outcome of Match MVPs, but now their value to overall team standings is on display. A point brought up by Barry is that every time 4 or more swimmers get jackpotted, the winner of the race is now up 19 points, more than 2 individual wins. These point swings could affect how a team builds its roster, preferring big stars to a team with depth. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Toronto’s Razzetti and Max Litchfield gave the Titans one more point surge with a combined 27-point pick-up thanks to their check-point bonus points. The Condors were only able to score five points in the event. This put Toronto into the lead by 20 points. Despite matching Cali’s event wins, the skins ultimately decided Cali as match seven winner. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

The Cali Condors have done it again with their third match win of the season, but it didn’t go down without a good fight. The Titans entered day two of match seven with the narrow lead over the Condors. Throughout the match, Toronto lost their lead to Cali but re-gained it, twice, including right before the skins events where the Condors soared over the Titans to clinch the match win. Meanwhile, Iron was able to find extra leverage over the NY Breakers to increase their chances of qualifying top-6 into the semi-finals. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Bobby Hurley, 2x world champion and 6x world champ medalist. Most importantly though, Bobby won our SwimSwam Pick 'Em contest on 2 separate days during the 2020 Olympic Games. He walks us through his strategy for his picks as well as his general thoughts on the Tokyo Games as a whole. Hurley then discusses his swimming career, his coaching career (which included a stint with Chad le Clos and Cam VDB in their lead up to the 2017 world champs), and his commentating career with FINA currently. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Chris Mooney, who is set to take over as the head coach at Bond University starting in October. Mooney details his Olympic summer as the primary coach for triple gold medalist Kaylee McKeown, from trials to training camp to the Games themself. Mooney divulges that he and Dean Boxall had a mini training camp ahead of the official Olympic camp with both of their athletes in attendance. He talks about the fun he has with Boxall on deck and some of the sets that dropped both of their jaws during the camp. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Sherridon Dressel, the Cali Condor veteran who nabbed her first league wins in both the 50 and 100 back in Match #2 earlier this season. Sherridon explains what she gained from competing in Season 2 of ISL in the Budapest Bubble andhow she carried that knowledge with her into Season 3. She also dives into her swimming history and what it's been like to be the baby in her family, namely being the younger sister to swimming superstar Caeleb Dressel. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This week in the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss Olympic champ Ahmed Hafnaoui committing to IU, the recruiting class of 2023 already starting to commit, and the ins and outs of ISL developments. Check out every topic in-depth below: Olympic Gold Medalist Ahmed Hafnaoui Hands Commitment to Indiana for Fall 2022 Joe Schooling wrote on instagram that he would offer up a Hugo Boss suit for free if anyone could beat him at the 200m butterfly, even giving the opposing swimmer a 10-second head start. Retiring Australian Olympians Will Not Receive Tokyo Podium Bonus The Class of 2023 Swimming Recruits Have Begun Their Commitments ISL Jackpots: Do They Matter? Caeleb Dressel To Sit Out Remainder of ISL Regular Season FINA's Brent Nowicki Hopes "Aquatics Festival" Will Draw Pool Swimmers to Open Water SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

The London Roar swam well on day 1 of Match 6 and led the Cali Condors by 13.5 points going into the second day of racing. The return of stars including Emma McKeon and Kyle Chalmers gave the Roar a boost in events that the Cali Condors might otherwise be favorited in, namely sprint free and fly. Chalmers, however, was relay-only for London today, but still contributed a big 45+ relay anchor to lead a 1-2 finish for the Roar. London ultimately went on to win the match, beating the favorite Cali Condors. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

In SwimSwam's last Breakdown episode, the ISL Draft Fumble was a hot topic. See the Breakdown here. David Marsh disagrees with SwimSwam's assessment, and he explains why, specifically outlining his match sessions battling the Toronto Titans and DC Trident. Coach Marsh also unpacks his strategy for the regular season and looks ahead, way ahead, to ISL Season 4 and 5 where he sees the rookies evolving into the new stars of the pro swimming league. Keep up with ISL action and subscribe to their Stream here. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Madison Wilson takes the win in the women’s 200 freestyle, which was expected. However, she also took the victory in the 100 free, just .09 ahead of Kasia Wasick after flipping 7th at the 50. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

The Toronto Titans produced the top-2 money earners in Match 5, Louise Hansson and Shane Ryan, with Hansson earning a total of $24,525, $8,000 of which came from her Match MVP bonus. Ryan earned $10,800 and is the only swimmer, other than Hansson, to earn more than $10,000. Hansson is currently the 5th-highest earner in the league this season with a total of $33,800 from two meets. In Toronto’s season debut, Hansson earned a respectable $9,275, a figure she nearly tripled in Match 5. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Chris Ritter, the founder and CEO of RITTER Sports Performance and creator of SURGE Strength, drops in on the SwimSwam Podcast with Gold Medal Mel Stewart. Chris explains why now is a great opportunity for coaches to become SURGE Strength Dryland Certified (SSDC). Open Enrollment to Become SSDC goes through Tuesday, September 14th. ENROLL NOW TO BECOME SSDC Chris Ritter is the CEO of Ritter Sports Performance, a SwimSwam partner. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

Mizuno, the global specialty sporting goods company, is entering into the collegiate and NIL conversations by signing their first collegiate swimmer, Carson Foster. A sophomore at the University of Texas, Foster is a versatile swimmer skilled in the individual medley and middle distance events, and has been recognized at the NCAA swimming national championships and as an NCAA All-American. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Trenton Julian, who recently had a sensational showing at the 2021 Speedo Summer Championships, highlighted by a 1:54 200 fly personal best. Julian takes us through his last 6 months of racing from the NCAA championships (where he had more pressure as a leader and point-scorer on the team than previous years) to the Olympic Trials, where he made 3 finals and was on the cusp of qualifying for his first Olympic team in both butterfly events. Julian explains how finding a balance of being prepared and enjoying the process has led to some of his best races. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the effectiveness of the ISL draft so far in the season, the Big 12 adding 4 teams as soon as this week, and Gary Taylor landing in Charlottesville. See our full list of topics below: ISL Season 3 looking lopsided after Draft implemented to try to even disparities between teams Big 12 Conference Could Approve 4 New Schools As Soon As Sept. 10 10 National High School Records Fall in One Day in South Florida Obstacle-Filled Season Concludes With 63 U.S. National Age Group Records Former Auburn Head Coach Gary Taylor Will Be Head Coach of Cavalier Aquatics

We sat down with Maggie Steffens, the woman who not only won her 3rd Olympic title in a row in women's water polo, but did it while breaking the record for most goals scored during Olympic play in history. Steffens discusses the ups and downs of training for a delayed Olympics and dealing with the pressure of an extra Olympic year once the team was finally in Tokyo. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with David Popovici, the 16-year-old who set the pool on fire this summer at a variety of meets, ultimately ending with personal bests of 47.3 in the 100m free and 1:44.6 in the 200m free as well as finaling in both events at the 2020 Olympic Games. Popovici dissects all of his biggest meets this summer, talking through his mental growth and how each opportunity set him up for the next. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Evan Stiles, the head coach of Arlington Aquatic Club. Stiles is a true swim nerd and a great storyteller, diving deep into Torri Huske's preparation for the 2021 Olympic Trials. This includes Huske only being able to train in a long course pool once a week and how Stiles made the most of their time there. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Bruce Marchionda, head coach of the TAC Titans, the club team that produced 2020 Olympian Claire Curzan. Marchionda takes us through Curzan's summer of training, from her May showdown at home with Torri Huske to the Olympic Trials and making the team. He reveals what they added into Claire's training and small changes they added to try and get her to the next level. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Alex Walsh, the NCAA champion who added 'Olympic Medalist' to her resume this summer. She talks us through her experience at both the Olympic Trials and Olympic Games, noting that at both meets before semi-finals she was in a less-than-ideal headspace. She walks us through her process of turning things around mentally and how she grew from both experiences. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with Stuart Coventry, the CEO of the new Australian Swimming League. Coventry breaks down why this endeavor was even taken in the first place and how he sees it can play in nicely with the International Swimming League as well. Reported by Loretta Race The Australian Swimming League (ASL) recently announced that its planned launch event slated for October will be delayed due to coronavirus-related complications. According to the league, ‘the decision to push back the timing of this launch event was made with an abundance of caution to prioritize the health and safety plus provide clarity to officials and participants, considering the challenges associated with movement within Australia. In July we reported how the brand new ASLrepresents a national professional league whose inaugural series of competitions will begin in the fourth quarter of 2022. ASL is privately owned and funded and will run the competition with the support of Swimming Australia. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com

We sat down with the man, the myth, the mustache: Coleman Stewart. Coming off of his red-hot world record in the 100m back, Stewart breaks down his whole first ISL match of the season, where he also won the Match MVP title. He admits that he didn't know what to expect heading into his first race, but after the American record (48.91) set by leading off the 400 medley relay, he knew something was going right. Stewart proceeded to shave on Sunday morning before day 2 of the meet, knowing he could have an opportunity to put up something special. And the rest is history. SWIMSWAM PODCAST LINKS Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean Click here to listen and subscribe on Google Click here to listen and subscribe on YouTube Click here to listen and subscribe on Listen Notes Click here to listen and subscribe on Stitcher Click here to listen and subscribe on iHeartRadio Click here to listen and subscribe on Amazon Click here to listen and subscribe on Pandora Music: Otis McDonald www.otismacmusic.com