The Rainmaking Podcast

Episode 298 of The Rainmaking Podcast features Scott Love in conversation with Eva Wisnik on how to fit business development into an already hectic schedule—especially for busy law firm partners and associates. Eva explains that many lawyers are trained to “issue spot” (anticipate what can go wrong), which is great for client service but can sabotage rainmaking unless it’s replaced with an opportunity-focused mindset. She reframes BD as “selling through substance”: asking better questions, showing genuine curiosity, and positioning outreach as problem-solving rather than “sales.” Her core message is that most BD resistance is fear (rejection, failure, imposing), and the antidote is shifting from self-focused thinking to client-centered value. Eva then gets tactical: build a pipeline by staying in touch with intent and consistency, because meaningful business relationships often take 2–5 years to convert. She recommends simple, repeatable habits—“one action a day” (send a thoughtful note, share a relevant article, set a meeting, register for a conference), plus tracking micro-actions to build momentum. Practical examples include handwritten notes, small meaningful gifts, and “thinking of you” outreach tied to something useful. Her three action steps: look backward to identify the clients/relationships you most enjoy and then find more like them, take one BD action daily, and track those actions as wins so the process stays sustainable and you maintain control of your career. Visit: https: //therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/VT4jwamTMtI ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Eva Wisnik is a career expert and recruiter who has spent three decades shaping the careers of marketing, business development, and communications professionals in the legal industry. As the founder of Wisnik Career Enterprises, Inc., she is a trusted advisor to law firm leaders and CMOs seeking to build and retain top talent that drive business growth. Eva’s expertise is rooted in her firsthand knowledge of the legal industry. Prior to launching her firm in 1996, she served as the Director of Recruitment and Training for leading firms Schulte Roth & Zabel and Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft. Since then, she has placed over 1,100 professionals in more than 120 AmLaw firms, including CMOs and senior marketing/BD leaders. A recognized authority on talent and professional development, Eva’s insights have been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and Bloomberg. She is also the author of Your Fairy Job Mentor's Secrets for Success. Eva has personally conducted over 900 training programs, equipping attorneys with a growth mindset and practical tools to build successful careers. She holds an M.B.A. in Marketing from Fordham University and a B.A. in Psychology from Barnard College, Columbia University. Links: https://www.wisnik.com/about-us/bio-eva-wisnik/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-wisnik/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Legal Episode 297 of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes Chuck Curtis to discuss the unique challenges law firm partners face when considering a lateral move. Drawing on decades of experience in attorney recruiting and integration, Chuck explains that the decision to move should be driven primarily by platform fit—whether a firm truly supports and promotes a partner’s practice area. He emphasizes that partners must thoughtfully evaluate whether their current firm provides the marketing support, strategic alignment, and internal collaboration necessary to grow their book of business. Before going to market, partners should have candid conversations with leadership and, if moving as a group, align internally to ensure consensus and minimize risk. The episode also explores best practices for navigating the transition process, including handling compensation discussions, preparing for potential counteroffers, and managing group dynamics. Chuck highlights the importance of transparency, strategic planning, and cohesion—particularly when moving as a team. Successful lateral integrations, he notes, occur when partners understand their value proposition, collaborate early with their new colleagues, and treat the move as a long-term business decision rather than a short-term financial negotiation. For partners contemplating a move, this episode delivers practical guidance on reducing disruption and maximizing success in a competitive legal marketplace. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/A-ragpjvPBY ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Chuck Curtis is a dynamic professional with nearly 40 years of professional services experience, including as Senior Director of Attorney Recruiting at Pillsbury from 2007 until his retirement in 2023. Shortly thereafter, he began his own coaching/consulting practice, utilizing his deep expertise and industry knowledge to consult with law firms regarding upgrading their partner hiring and integration processes, including aligning firm leadership with practice section leadership and recruiting leadership to developing winning hiring strategies and practices. He also provides strategic coaching to partners, associates, high-level internal recruiting leaders and external legal recruiters. Links: https://clcurtis31consulting.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-curtis-7461a39/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 296 of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Joshua Altman, founder of Beltway Media, on how professional services firms can repurpose content to drive business development and brand visibility. Instead of treating webinars, interviews, white papers, or conference panels as “one-and-done” events, Joshua explains how a single piece of thought leadership can be transformed into blog posts, LinkedIn articles, short-form video clips, podcasts, email newsletters, and even white papers. By using a structured content calendar strategy, professionals can multiply their marketing output without constantly creating from scratch. Joshua outlines a practical framework for modern content marketing built around four engagement pillars: what clients read, see, hear, and experience. He emphasizes planning ahead, avoiding platform dependency, and leveraging existing material to build consistent visibility across channels like LinkedIn, YouTube, email marketing, and professional blogs. For lawyers, consultants, and financial advisors looking to grow their brand and generate inbound business, this episode delivers tactical guidance on scalable content marketing, personal branding, and strategic media repurposing. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/jghfwLIYgNU ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Joshua is an experienced storyteller, strategist and creative force with more than two decades of experience shaping how people see, hear and connect with big ideas. Today, he leads beltway.media, a bold D.C.-based communications firm that helps brands and organizations cut through the noise. Before founding the firm, Joshua was a multimedia journalist at The Hill, diving deep into federal policy including energy and the environment, tax and finance, healthcare, immigration, defense and criminal justice, and covering high-stakes election cycles right from the front lines. For more than two decades, Joshua’s served as a member of The Telly Awards Judging Council, a select group of past winners who judge each year’s annual competition. Now he works with everyone from scrappy startups to federal agencies including the U.S. Department of Justice and U.S. Department of Commerce, helping them refine their message, elevate their brand and truly connect with their audience, whether that’s customers, investors or the public at large. From reimagining agency websites to crafting magnetic stories, Joshua’s work has one goal: to make communications clear, compelling, and impossible to ignore. Education Georgetown University, M.A., Communication, Culture and Technology The George Washington University, B.A. Journalism and Mass Communications Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaialtman/ https://beltway.media/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Roch joins Scott Love to unpack a deceptively hard leadership challenge in professional services: getting partners to consistently do business development, and designing incentives that actually drive the right behavior. Roch’s central message is that there’s no universal compensation fix—the right approach depends on firm size, strategic priorities (rapid growth vs. deepening key relationships vs. refreshing a stale client base), and even national partnership culture (e.g., UK lockstep traditions vs. more individualistic U.S. models). He stresses that compensation is only a “lever,” not a self-executing solution: it works best when paired with strong leadership, clear expectations, and accountability conversations that tie each partner’s strengths and goals to the firm’s strategy. Roch describes practical incentive strategies that go beyond simple origination credit. He argues firms should recognize that partners contribute differently—some excel at landing new clients, others at expanding existing accounts, and others at protecting “crown jewel” relationships—so incentives should be aligned to those roles and tracked accordingly. Non-monetary incentives can matter too, such as giving junior partners meaningful internal initiatives to build an “equity-owner mindset,” and publicly recognizing teams (not just lone rainmakers). Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/Hl7GPJjpdfI ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Michael Roch guides partnership boards, managing partners, and senior leaders globally on architecting strong partnerships and on leading their organizations to competitive growth. Michael has advised dozens of organizations become market leaders in relation to their: Global partnering strategy Partner profit sharing, compensation, and reward Partnership governance, leadership, and execution Michael’s most recent book is The Partner Compensation Handbook, the comprehensive guide on profit sharing in professional services partnerships (together with Performance Leader's CEO Ray D’Cruz, Globe Publishing 2022). Michael's clients range from multinational partnerships and alliances to mid-sized firms to start-ups across the globe; most operate in the professional services, technology, and related sectors. All of them value how Michael’s partnerships advice is infused by his hands-on experience as an entrepreneur and leader of partnerships - and how he brings together a unique combination of in-depth experience around partnership economics, governance, organizational design, motivation, and reward to help clients drive growth. Links: https://www.mhpradvisors.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelroch/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/mhpradvisors e: [email protected] Receive MHPR Insights: https://www.mhpradvisors.com/insights-signup Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 294 focuses on the gap between “we have great culture” and the day-to-day behaviors people actually experience inside a firm. Scott interviews Alejandra Ramirez, founder of Ready Cultures and a longtime internal communications leader in big law, on what it really means to “walk the culture talk.” Her definition is simple but demanding: culture is credibility—aligning stated values with observable actions. She argues firms should start by auditing whether claimed values (like collaboration or transparency) show up in real behaviors (cross-selling between practices, sharing information with BD teams, etc.). Culture isn’t a slogan; it’s a set of conditions leadership actively creates, and when words and actions don’t match, trust erodes and performance suffers. Alejandra then lays out how leaders close the gap: clear, consistent, actionable communication; active listening and feedback loops; and tying culture initiatives to measurable outcomes like engagement, retention, risk reduction, and cost savings. She emphasizes that firms recruit laterals on numbers but often lose them on fit—so culture must be evaluated explicitly during hiring through behavioral questions and by ensuring the “recruiting experience” matches the lived experience after arrival. Her three action steps: lead with curiosity (listen and ask questions), audit your internal communication system (tools, messages, measurement), and treat culture as a verb, not a noun—something you repeatedly do through choices, behaviors, and reinforcement. She also offers a practical “3H” framework (Head, Heart, Hands) to help leaders communicate change: facts, why it matters, and what to do next. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/iwev7mcnzcw ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Alejandra Ramirez is an internal communications strategist and the founder of Ready Cultures. With nearly 20 years of experience in communications—including 15 years in Big Law and professional services—she helps leadership teams close the gap between what they say and what their people actually hear, especially in high-stakes environments where clarity directly impacts client experience and results. Her work focuses on executive messaging, crisis communication, and organizational alignment during moments of growth, change, and pressure. By strengthening internal clarity and trust, Alejandra helps firms improve execution, reduce friction, and deliver more consistent, high-quality client service—the foundation of sustainable rainmaking. Links: Website: https://www.readycultures.com/ 3H Framework: https://www.readycultures.com/3h-framework LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malejandraramirez/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 293 of The Rainmaking Podcast (Legal Series), Scott Love interviews Jay McAllister, founder of Paragon Tech, on how law firms can improve case management from matter opening through conclusion. Jay’s core insight: most firms use only 10–20% of their case management platform’s functionality (across tools like Clio, Smokeball, and Centerbase), leaving major efficiency gains “on the table.” He explains that many firms switch platforms reactively—because a system gets sunset (he cites Thomson Reuters exiting its Firm Central case-management product) or because they’re attracted to a shiny feature—without first diagnosing the firm’s true operational bottleneck. Jay argues that the right approach is constraint-first: assemble a cross-functional steering committee, identify the firm’s biggest constraints, and then select/implement tech to solve those specific problems—rather than forcing the firm to conform to software. He highlights the upside of a “matter-centric” system: tighter time capture (citing research suggesting non-contemporaneous billing can cost roughly an hour per week), reduced friction through a single source of truth for documents and communications, improved client experience through a more choreographed process, and higher staff satisfaction. They also discuss change management—getting buy-in early by involving stakeholders—and the importance of surfacing KPIs automatically, including consultation show rates, retention/close rates, utilization, realization, and collections. Jay closes with three actions: (1) define the limiting constraint and success criteria before making any major change (including AI), (2) use a structured selection framework (he mentions a 53-criteria guide), and (3) get educated and leverage peer communities to avoid reinventing the wheel. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/yx1wN4G3cSk ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- As someone who has always had an unconventional interest in studying technology and business, approaching both with the healthy skepticism of someone who demands real results, Jay found his tribe within the legal profession. Whether he’s racing on the track, soaring through the skies or shooting his next film, that same affinity for high performance fuels his work. He continuously explores new ways law firms can leverage technology and AI, sharing his learnings in real-time at legal tech conferences across the U.S., including Clio Con and through a growing content library of over 1,000 videos on LinkedIn and YouTube. As founder of Paragon Tech, Jay empowers law firm owners to harness technology that delivers greater value to their clients with less effort. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/legaltechexpert/ https://www.youtube.com/@paragontechit Jay's Mental Health Short Film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSsMZvxtAQk&t=480s Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 292 features Scott Love interviewing culture-transformation author and speaker Greg Hawks about his book Act Like an Owner: Five Unlocks for Creating Culture People Love and Results Leaders Need. Hawks frames workplace behavior through a simple but sticky metaphor drawn from his years as a landlord: in every organization you have owners (people who take responsibility and treat the “house” like it’s theirs), renters (people who do their jobs but don’t emotionally invest), and vandals (people who actively damage culture through blame, excuses, and disregard). A key point is that “acting like an owner” isn’t reserved for people with equity—anyone can adopt an owner mindset, and leaders of even small teams can influence culture by clarifying what commitment looks like, building trust, and refusing to tolerate “vandal” behavior that demoralizes everyone else. Hawks also emphasizes that culture improvement is often less about elaborate programs and more about consistent, practical behaviors that create momentum. He highlights the value of clear standards and accountability (commitment measured by responsibility rather than hours), and “activating lasting value” through simple, specific encouragement that accelerates trust (“people like people who like them”). He argues the real leverage move isn’t obsessing over disengaged “renters” but addressing actively disengaged “vandals,” because removing toxic behavior makes it safe for others to re-invest. The conversation closes with actionable guidance: think beyond your own “room” and care about the whole “house,” notice and affirm positive behaviors in others regularly, and ask yourself in every situation whether you’re owning outcomes or defaulting to blame. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/iTqcAs6HCyc ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Greg empowers leaders and teams to “Unlock Everyday Greatness” by transforming disengaged workplaces into thriving ecosystems of trust, ownership, and intentional action. His three-decade career has been packed with love and service. As a nonprofit executive, real estate investor, and small business owner, he has impacted thousands of lives. Being a natural collaborator Greg approaches his keynote speaking, consulting and thought leadership through a partnership lens. His Ownership Mindset Body of Knowledge compresses 30 years of collected insights into dynamic, verbally-visual keynotes that challenge the status quo, energize audiences and deliver immediately actionable next steps. He’s annoyingly optimistic, surprisingly profound and a lot of fun. Clients like Coca-Cola, Paycom, COX and SHRM trust Greg to equip their people. As a result of his work, organizations evolve into places of shared language, energized momentum and sincere ownership. His passion for shaping environments where everyone gets to contribute their best daily is contagious. Links: https://www.greghawks.com/act-like-an-owner https://www.greghawks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghawks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 291 features Scott Love in conversation with legal business development strategist Karen Kaplowitz on how lawyers can use charitable sponsorships to deepen client relationships and generate business in a way that feels authentic. Kaplowitz defines “charitable sponsorships” as the common scenario where a client invites a lawyer or law firm to support a charity through events such as dinners, honoree celebrations (often for a general counsel or senior executive), golf tournaments, or fundraising activities. While this can resemble other networking, she argues the charity context creates a stronger “expectation of interaction” and a closer bond because the client is personally invested. Done well, it is not simply writing a check; it is learning what the client and their company care about and showing up in meaningful ways that build trust and access in an increasingly competitive market where competitors are often being invited to the same opportunities. Kaplowitz emphasizes that the biggest mistake firms make is treating charity involvement as a one-and-done transaction, which leads to wasted spend and missed relationship leverage. The value comes from being intentional: doing advance research on who will be there, coordinating internally to ensure the right lawyers attend, arriving early, engaging purposefully, and following up to convert introductions into ongoing relationships. She highlights high-impact approaches such as volunteering alongside clients (e.g., joining a client’s Thanksgiving service activity), helping a charity by mobilizing firm resources when a key client is being honored, and serving on boards where clients can see lawyers “in action” as problem-solvers. Her three recommended action steps are: (1) identify what charities your most important clients support, (2) plan specific ways to support the client and the charity (sponsorship, board service, volunteering, fundraising), and (3) execute with consistent follow-through as part of an organized relationship plan with clear activities and a budget. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/on0Bm4AfffE ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott sits down with Karen Kaplowitz, a Lawdragon Global 100 Leader in Legal Strategy and Consulting, who is a master at helping law firms build client relationships through charity, and has personally raised over $20M in charity for a leading women’s civil rights organization. Links: https://www.legalmomentum.org/events/aiming-high-2026 https://www.newellis.com/PDFs/2010/May3-RightTimeRightGroup.pdf https://www.newellis.com/PDFs/2011/April112011-CharityBegins.pdf https://www.newellis.com/PDFs/2022/NewEllis-102422.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 290 features Scott Love in conversation with Ryan Kimler (Net Profit CFO) on financial management and strategy for independent law firms. Ryan argues that most small-firm owners struggle because they don’t have the right financial team around them, and he outlines a simple four-seat model: bookkeeper (tracks transactions and produces monthly financials), tax accountant/CPA (compliance and tax filings), fractional CFO (forecasting, efficiency, and decision support), and a retirement/investment advisor (helping partners retire on their own terms). Ryan then breaks down what non-financial founders should actually look for in their numbers: on the P&L, keep expenses grouped into three clear buckets—payroll, marketing, overhead—and track them as percentages of revenue; on the balance sheet, monitor cash, accounts receivable, debts, and owner distributions (especially to avoid mis-categorized items that can increase taxable income). Ryan shares what he commonly sees when firms bring him in: a “great year” followed by declining profitability where the owner feels unclear about where the money is going, worries about payroll, and loses sleep due to a lack of forecasting and visibility. His firm’s approach is to create an annual plan, build a simplified financial dashboard/scoreboard (green/yellow/red), and then develop action plans that target the “red” metrics—often involving attorney productivity, hiring efficiency, pricing, collections, and marketing ROI—so the firm can improve cash flow, profitability, and owner take-home pay. The episode closes with three action steps: build the right financial team, review your financials regularly using a few key metrics and trends, and create an action plan to fix the number(s) that are off track. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/U0WFJSIZUuc ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Ryan Kimler is the Founder of Net Profit CFO, host of the Net Profit Podcast, and an international best-selling author. Through his firm, Ryan and his team specialize in helping law firm owners take control of their finances and drive sustainable, profitable growth. At Net Profit CFO, Ryan combines deep expertise in accounting and financial strategy to help law firms achieve two critical outcomes: 1. A financially healthy firm with consistent cash flow to support growth 2. And the ability for the owner to take home the income they desire to meet both personal and professional goals. Ryan’s mission is simple — to give law firm owners the financial clarity they need to run a more profitable business and enjoy the freedom that comes with it. Links: LinkedIn- www.linkedin.com/in/ryankfinancialclarityllc/ Website- www.netprofitcfo.com Legal CFO Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalCFO Profit Call - https://go.oncehub.com/profit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love sits down with Deborah Farone, one of the legal industry’s foremost experts on law firm marketing, to discuss her new book Breaking Ground and the unique dynamics women lawyers face in developing a thriving practice. Drawing on interviews with 60 successful women rainmakers from around the world, Deborah explains how a lack of visible role models, unconscious bias, and confidence gaps can affect business development—but also how women can turn these challenges into strategic advantages. The conversation explores the importance of having a written business development plan, setting aspirational goals, building confidence, and using practical tools such as grounding exercises to overcome imposter syndrome and perform effectively in client-facing situations. Scott and Deborah also examine the concrete habits and systems that consistently drive long-term rainmaking success. From intentional networking and authentic relationship-building to leveraging empathy, listening skills, and personal interests as connection points, Deborah emphasizes that there is no single “right” way to develop business. Instead, successful women lawyers build practices that align with who they are, supported by simple systems, regular touchpoints, and disciplined follow-through. The episode concludes with clear action steps for professionals at any stage of their career: carve out time to define a vision, actively nurture a professional network, and take immediate action to move one relationship—or opportunity—forward. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/sv0qPYQkb6c ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Over the past two decades, Deborah has carved out a niche by distinguishing herself as the chief marketing officer of two of the country’s most successful law firms and the founder of both firms’ business development and communications departments. But before entering into the legal marketing profession, she sharpened her communications and business development skills by working at a global management consulting firm. Links: https://deborahfarone.com/breaking-ground/ https://deborahfarone.com/about/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahfarone/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love sits down with Chad Dean, Managing Partner of Integrated Management Resources, to discuss how professionals can avoid common career pitfalls—and recover strategically when missteps occur. Drawing on nearly three decades of experience recruiting senior finance and accounting leaders, Chad emphasizes the importance of slowing down decision-making, understanding true motivations for change, and avoiding reactionary moves driven solely by compensation. He explains why culture, leadership trust, and long-term growth potential are far more reliable indicators of a successful career move than short-term financial gain, and why many professionals benefit from having a neutral sounding board before making major decisions. The conversation also explores how to navigate career setbacks, including short tenures, leadership mismatches, or ethical red flags, without derailing long-term credibility. Chad offers practical guidance on when it makes sense to exit a role quickly, how to frame career narratives with clarity and confidence, and why mentorship, networking, and disciplined self-care are essential for long-term career resilience. This episode provides thoughtful, grounded advice for professionals who want to manage their careers deliberately, minimize regret, and position themselves for sustained success—even in the face of uncertainty or change. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/R-EAamsckBQ ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Integrated Management Resources is an executive recruiting and talent solutions firm delivering executive search, interim/fractional leadership, and project outsourcing for clients nationwide. We launched in 1990 serving the most selective Wall Street banks and hedge funds, building a reputation for precision and excellence in senior-level recruiting. In 2019, we expanded our model to help VC- and PE-backed SaaS companies scale accounting, finance, revenue operations, and IT teams. What we do: • Executive Recruiting — Niche specialists leading to filling positions with speed and accuracy. • Fractional & Interim Leadership — Placing proven professionals who can step in immediately. • Project Outsourcing — Delivering tailored teams for data, finance, and operations initiatives. Practice Areas: • Accounting & Finance • Revenue Operations & GTM Finance • Fullstack Engineering / Cloud / DevOps • Data Engineering & Analytics Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaddean/ https://integratedmgmt.com/about/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love shares hard-earned insights from nearly three decades in legal recruiting and thousands of in-depth conversations with law firm partners across the country. Drawing from patterns he’s observed among the most successful rainmakers, Scott breaks down what truly drives long-term growth for law firm partners—beyond pure legal skill. Scott outlines three core pillars that consistently show up in high-performing partners: strong legal acumen, deliberate business development, and effective leadership. He explains why partners who thrive treat the growth of their practice as an intellectual journey—one that requires continuous learning, humility, and intentional skill-building, rather than relying solely on past success or technical expertise. The episode also emphasizes the importance of consistency in relationship-building. Scott shares practical examples of how small, repeatable actions—such as one meaningful outreach per week—compound into powerful business development momentum over time. He also discusses the role of vision, platform, and firm strategy in determining whether partners can realistically reach their long-term goals where they are—or whether a different platform might better support their practice and clients. This episode is especially relevant for partners who want to grow their book of business thoughtfully, evaluate their current firm alignment, and make strategic decisions without unnecessary risk or pressure. It’s a candid, practical roadmap for partners who want to take ownership of their growth and career trajectory. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/4CLSYJBI9lY ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Scott Love is a legal recruiter who is solely focused on recruiting corporate and finance partners for global law firms in major markets. He is also a coauthor of Rainmaker Confidential, and speaks at conferences professionally to business groups on sales, client development, and recruiting. www.rainmakerconfidential.com https://partnersonthemove.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with executive coach and author Luci Gabel about optimal performance for high achievers—and Luci’s definition is simple and practical: optimal performance equals energy. She explains that rainmakers and senior professionals aren’t just managing tasks; they are managing the internal capacity to think clearly, communicate well, make high-stakes decisions, and stay steady under pressure. Luci introduces a framework of six “pillars” of energy that combine the physical and mental sides of performance: nutrition, movement, rest/sleep, mindset, communication, and vision. Her point is that you cannot separate physiology from leadership—small shifts in hydration, rest, movement, or self-talk can immediately improve focus, mood, decision quality, and resilience. Luci also emphasizes that most professionals don’t pay attention to energy until they’re already depleted; the first step is simply noticing what drains you and what elevates you throughout the day. Rather than overwhelming people with a complete lifestyle overhaul, she advocates high-leverage, minimal viable changes—one small adjustment practiced consistently for a week or two (like increasing water intake, taking a 10-minute walk, or turning screens off an hour earlier). She recommends turning the six pillars into a simple monthly self-audit: draw a “wheel,” rate yourself from 1–10 on each pillar, identify the lowest score, and focus on one small improvement there. Over time, this creates compounding gains in energy and clarity. Luci closes by pointing listeners to her coaching and group programs built on these pillars, along with her podcast, Leadership Life, Health and Happiness, for continued strategies on sustainable performance. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/t10UiZsieEU ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- With two decades of experience at the intersection of leadership, physiology, and business, I help organizations and individuals perform at their highest level—by aligning strategy, communication, and human performance. As a COO and leadership strategist, I bring evidence-based health and behavioral science into the way teams lead, collaborate, and execute. My work focuses on creating clarity, strengthening decision flow, and building the conditions for sustainable high performance. My thought leadership is expressed through speaking, writing, and the Leadership, Life, Health & Happiness podcast. My book, Eat to Lead, integrates physiology and leadership science to help leaders perform with clarity and sustained energy. My mission remains constant—helping people reach their highest level of leadership while sustaining peak energy, focus, and well-being. Links: https://www.lucigabel.com/book https://www.lucigabel.com/ https://www.lucigabel.com/leadership https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucigabel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Rachel Minion, founder of Rockstar & Moon, about how professionals can make a bigger impact through smarter, more intentional marketing. Rachel challenges the instinct to “do more” and instead urges business owners and service professionals to do less—but do it better. She explains that spreading energy across too many platforms and initiatives leads to diluted results, while focusing on a few high-impact actions accelerates growth. A core piece of that foundation is capturing success: turning client wins into case studies, testimonials, and social proof that sell future work far more effectively than any sales pitch. Rachel shares how even anonymized case studies—rooted in measurable outcomes—can generate immediate opportunities because prospects trust real results over marketing language. Rachel also emphasizes the power of automation to keep follow-up, nurturing, and onboarding consistent without overwhelming the professional. She explains how pre-call warmups, no-show follow-ups, “not now” sequences, and onboarding workflows can all run automatically while still feeling personal when handled thoughtfully. Instead of relying on memory or manual outreach, these systems create consistent touchpoints that nurture relationships until prospects are ready. She closes by offering three action steps: (1) focus only on the most impactful marketing activities; (2) actively seek out case studies and testimonials while the “win” is fresh; and (3) automate wherever possible to scale your time, maintain authenticity, and stay meaningfully connected with your audience. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/ti3s_Czs-dE ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- With over 25 years of experience, Rachel transforms struggling businesses into market leaders. She doesn’t just hand you a plan; she becomes part of your team, working alongside them to craft and execute strategies that deliver real results, all while you focus on running your business. Rachel excels at turning chaos into clarity, cutting through the noise, and driving growth with data-driven decisions. She’s also committed to developing your team, ensuring they’re equipped to sustain success long after her work is done. With Rachel handling your marketing, you’re not just fixing a problem—you’re setting your business up to dominate the market. You Get More Than Just RachelWhen you work with Rachel, you’re not just getting her expertise—you’re getting the full power of her team. They’re there to implement strategies, facilitate the process, and hold everyone accountable, ensuring that every plan turns into real, measurable success. Links: https://rachelminion.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelminion/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this legal-focused edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back Elise Holtzman of The Lawyer’s Edge for part two of their conversation—this time on how lawyers can get speaking, panel, and writing opportunities. Elise explains that doing great work isn’t enough; if you’re “toiling away in obscurity,” clients and referral sources won’t find you. Thought leadership—speaking, writing, panels—is a practical way to demonstrate value, answer the questions that keep clients up at night, and be seen as a credible authority without “bragging.” She stresses that opportunities rarely appear out of nowhere; early on, you must be proactive and deliberate about who you speak to, what you speak about, and where your audience gets its information (your “who, what, and where”). Elise walks through practical steps for both associates and partners. Juniors can co-author articles with partners, contribute to firm content, and speak for young-lawyer groups or bar sections to build skills early, instead of waiting until partnership pressure hits. She breaks down the advantages of panels (shared spotlight, conversational format, built-in networking) and describes how repeated speaking and writing gradually position you as the go-to expert in a crowded market. For writing, Elise suggests targeting publications your clients actually read, reviewing writer guidelines, pitching editors before drafting, and understanding who owns the IP so you can repurpose content on your website or LinkedIn. She closes with three action steps: (1) clarify your who/what/where before chasing opportunities; (2) be proactive—tell people you want to speak and write and work with marketing/PR if your firm has them; and (3) experiment with different formats, set a realistic cadence (e.g., quarterly), and build a body of work that consistently showcases your expertise. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/LgVA3ra7Vu8 ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Elise Holtzman has dedicated over 16 years to working with lawyers and law firms to help them be proactive about business development, leadership, and career acceleration. As a former practicing attorney with experience working at Fried Frank and Morgan Lewis, Elise brings a deep understanding of the practice of law (and the demands of operating a firm) to her work. As founder of The Lawyer’s Edge, she helps leaders promote a healthy, growth-oriented culture in their firms and coaches lawyers on how to bring in more business, retain clients, and communicate effectively. Elise frequently speaks and writes on the subject of business development and career acceleration for lawyers and is the host of The Lawyer’s Edge Podcast. Links: https://thelawyersedge.com/ignite/ https://thelawyersedge.com/lawyers-edge-podcast/ https://thelawyersedge.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliseholtzman/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Kelly Kennedy, executive business development coach and host of The Business Development Podcast, about what it really means to “open doors for rainmakers.” Kelly reframes business development as the disciplined art of creating interest and securing face-to-face meetings—not closing deals or running marketing campaigns. He introduces his concept of “meeting math”: start with your revenue goal, determine the average value of a new client, estimate your close rate from qualified meetings, and back into the exact number of meetings you need per year and per month. Because meetings are the only part of the sales process a BD professional can truly control, Kelly argues that success should be measured in high-quality meetings, not just revenue, and that this clarity gives rainmakers confidence and focus. Kelly then walks through how to build a repeatable door-opening system. Instead of chasing only the biggest “tippy-top” companies, he recommends targeting the next tier down and the service providers that support them—often better, stickier clients with more realistic expectations. He urges firms to identify their ideal buyer personas (presidents, procurement managers, operations leaders, etc.), then use tools like LinkedIn to build targeted lists and send personalized connection requests and introductions. Kelly stresses the importance of separating roles—door-opening BD, proposal/sales, and account management—so nothing falls through the cracks, and he closes with three action steps: block 3–5 hours weekly for pure BD, define your ideal buyers by title in each vertical, and make direct contact via phone and email while always asking for the meeting. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/FJtovnbYvRo ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Kelly Kennedy is an Executive Business Development Coach specializing in empowering businesses and professionals to reach their full potential. In this role, he provides high-level strategic guidance tailored to meet the unique needs of each client, whether they’re entrepreneurs, corporate teams, or executives. Kelly’s coaching is built on a foundation of nearly two decades of expertise in business development, during which he has honed a results-driven approach that focuses on sustainable growth, relationship building, and practical strategies that clients can implement immediately. Through one-on-one coaching sessions, group workshops, and his Business Development Mastery Program, Kelly guides clients through essential business development concepts such as lead generation, client retention, CRM optimization, personal branding, and strategic planning. His goal is to equip clients with the skills and confidence to make informed, impactful decisions that drive measurable growth. Kelly’s coaching is known for its holistic approach, emphasizing not only business strategies but also personal development, resilience, and adaptability. In addition to individual progress, Kelly’s role as a coach includes fostering a community of driven professionals who support and learn from each other. His dynamic coaching style and commitment to accountability keep clients engaged and motivated, ensuring they stay on track toward their goals. Links: https://www.businessdevelopmentpodcast.ca/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellykennedyofficial/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this legal-focused episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Elise Holtzman, former BigLaw attorney and founder of The Lawyer’s Edge, about how lawyers can become visible experts rather than “well-kept secrets.” Elise explains that doing excellent work behind a closed door is not enough—clients and referral sources must see you as a top, credible choice. She introduces her simple “who, what, and where” framework: identify who your ideal clients and referral sources are, what problems you solve and value you deliver for them, and where they “hang out” for information (conferences, associations, publications, online communities). From there, she recommends pursuing speaking, writing, and podcast opportunities in those venues so you become the person who gets the call. Elise also unpacks the main reasons lawyers resist visibility: fear of being “salesy,” lack of time, and imposter syndrome (“I’m not really an expert”). She reframes rainmaking as service, not aggressive selling, and stresses that you don’t have to be the world’s #1 authority—only valuable to your audience. A major lever is building intentional referral-source networks: other professionals who serve the same clients but don’t compete with you (accountants, consultants, marketers, recruiters, other lawyers in different practice areas). By collaborating on events, content, and introductions, you “borrow trust” and create win–win–win outcomes for yourself, your referral partners, and your shared clients. Elise closes with three action steps: (1) block a “power hour” to define your who/what/where and list specific A-level referral sources who’ve already tried to send you work; (2) proactively ask for speaking and writing opportunities instead of waiting to be discovered; and (3) talk openly about your thought-leadership work—on LinkedIn, your bio, and in conversations—so others know you’re available as a visible expert. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/kNaUHw9eMOs ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Elise Holtzman has dedicated over 16 years to working with lawyers and law firms to help them be proactive about business development, leadership, and career acceleration. As a former practicing attorney with experience working at Fried Frank and Morgan Lewis, Elise brings a deep understanding of the practice of law (and the demands of operating a firm) to her work. As founder of The Lawyer’s Edge, she helps leaders promote a healthy, growth-oriented culture in their firms and coaches lawyers on how to bring in more business, retain clients, and communicate effectively. Elise frequently speaks and writes on the subject of business development and career acceleration for lawyers and is the host of The Lawyer’s Edge Podcast. Links: https://thelawyersedge.com/lawyers-edge-podcast/ https://thelawyersedge.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliseholtzman/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love talks with Tony Karls, co-founder of Sterling Lawyers and president of Rocket Clicks, about using a podcast as a practical business-development engine. Tony explains how his team built Revenue Roadmap, a single show with two recurring formats—growth stories on Tuesdays and how-to education on Thursdays—to balance entertainment with tangible value. The podcast is treated as a cornerstone content asset: every episode is repurposed across video, audio, blogs, and social channels to reach prospects where they prefer to consume. Tony stresses keeping the show unscripted and authentic, niching hard on a clear avatar (for him, family-law firm owners), and partnering with the right communities (e.g., AAML) to book high-quality guests and create “network effects” that turn conversations into relationships. Tony shares what’s worked—and what hasn’t. With only ~68,000 family-law firms in the U.S. (most with ≤3 attorneys), chasing big vanity metrics is a distraction; serving a small, precise audience with specific problems wins. His playbook: start earlier than you think, accept that your first 40–50 episodes are reps, and move fast with “decision velocity”—ship, measure, iterate. Three takeaways for rainmakers who want to adopt the model: (1) define a narrow ICP and build episodes around their real pains; (2) deliver consistent, authentic conversations (video + audio) and atomize each episode across platforms; (3) calendar guest outreach like a pipeline (aim for 2–3 quality bookings a week), then let data—not ego—guide what you double down on next. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/W9HP-dx20Ko ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- As the President of Rocket Clicks I am responsible for integrating our Finance, HR, IT, Sales & Marketing, and Client Service teams. I am also ultimately responsible for building a healthy culture while driving P&L performance. Links: https://rocketclicks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonykarls/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/rocket-clicks/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Jacob Parks, President of Profitable Ideas Exchange and author of The Growth Engine, about how professional services firms can drive sustained growth through structured client feedback systems. Jacob reveals that most firms miss huge opportunities by treating client feedback as a formality rather than a core business strategy. He explains that when firms pursue feedback to genuinely learn—not just to increase revenue—they inevitably uncover insights that lead to deeper relationships, new opportunities, and stronger retention. Jacob introduces the concept of client advisory boards—groups of top clients who meet regularly to offer candid feedback, co-create solutions, and shape a firm’s direction. He outlines the steps to implement a client feedback system: identify ideal clients, engage them in ongoing two-way conversations, and, most importantly, follow through on the insights gathered. Jacob emphasizes that curiosity, collaboration, and action are the hallmarks of firms that sustain growth over time. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/9AV80rUHyUo ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- President of Strategy for PIE, Jacob Parks, is the author The Growth Engine and of Never Say Sell. His expertise includes partner remuneration and incentive plans, account planning, trigger of engagement, and how to expand a brand to include new service offerings, new industries, or new geographies. He has led client teams for McKinsey, Accenture, and KPMG among others. He leads The PIE Professional Services CMO and CGO network and is a graduate of Gonzaga’s MBA program, having previously taught undergraduate business students. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-parks/ https://www.profitableideas.com/about/meet-our-team/jacob-parks/ Order The Growth Engine today: https://www.profitableideas.com/perspectives/books/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Hanna Hasl-Kelchner, attorney, business consultant, and author of Seeking Fairness at Work: Cracking the New Code of Greater Employee Engagement, Retention, and Satisfaction. Together, they explore “The Rainmaker’s Playbook for Managing the Team,” revealing how leadership, empathy, and trust directly impact performance and retention. Hanna explains that leading a team is not a transactional act—it’s a relationship built on an “implied social contract” of good faith and fair dealing. She shares how rainmakers can foster stronger loyalty and productivity by actively listening, showing gratitude, and treating team members as valued contributors rather than interchangeable resources. Hanna also discusses practical ways to address performance issues with empathy and clarity, emphasizing joint problem-solving over blame. She encourages leaders to take “empathy reality checks,” solicit honest feedback, and model humility—reminding listeners that trust must be earned, not demanded. The conversation concludes with three action steps: listen to your team, invest in communication and coaching skills, and demonstrate genuine appreciation. These principles, she argues, transform high-pressure work environments into loyal, high-performing teams. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/zwC5paGj0HQ ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- 📌 Resources & Links Connect with Hanna Hasl-Kelchner: linkedin.com/in/hannahaslkelchner Get Hanna’s free audiobook: bit.ly/4oer0L3 Visit her site: businessmo.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes brand strategist Cheri Quinn, Director of Brand Strategy at Mercury Creative Group, to discuss “Finding Focus in a Crowded Space.” Cheri explains that today’s marketplace is more crowded than ever—not just because of competition, but because clients are constantly flooded with information. To cut through the noise, professionals must clearly define their primary audience—the people they serve best—and communicate with authenticity and focus. Cheri shares her “dartboard” analogy for targeting ideal clients: those in the bullseye deliver the greatest results, while trying to appeal to everyone leads to “missing the mark.” She walks listeners through exercises to identify their favorite clients, understand their motivations, communication styles, and values, and align their firm’s brand strategy accordingly. By clarifying audience, message, and brand alignment, professionals can stand out in a crowded market and attract the right opportunities. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/pNZU13CEz9I ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit ⁠www.therainmakingmagazine.com⁠ to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Cheri Quinn is a brand and marketing strategist who specializes in asking open and honest questions and listening with an open heart and mind. As the Director of Brand Strategy at Mercury Creative Group, Cheri is a master at discovering and communicating an organization’s essential value. With a wealth of experience in brand strategy, strategic planning, marketing, and communications, she has helped numerous organizations discover their unique value and voice. Links: [email protected] https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheriquinn https://mercurycreativegroup.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back Rudhir “Rudi” Krishtel, former patent litigation partner at Fish & Richardson, former senior patent counsel at Apple, and now executive coach and founder of Krishtel. Rudi discusses “Overcoming Pitfalls to Becoming a Rainmaker” and shares practical insights on how lawyers can shift their mindset to grow their book of business. He explains that business development is 80% mindset and 20% skillset—most lawyers don’t need more tools; they need a new way of thinking. By reframing marketing as helping, not selling, attorneys can replace fear and hesitation with purpose and authenticity. Rudi also outlines how to identify your smallest viable market—the eight to ten people or companies most aligned with your expertise—and focus all your efforts on being helpful to that group. Through strategic clarity and mindset realignment, professionals can eliminate fear of rejection, become more consistent in outreach, and build a sustainable business development playbook. Rudi concludes with three action steps: remember you’re helping, define your smallest viable market, and take concrete, helpful actions toward that audience over the next 90 days. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/8Zwzm00eb9k ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Prior to becoming an executive coach and consultant, Rudhir practiced law for 15 years as a federal judicial clerk, Patent Litigation Partner at Fish & Richardson, and then as Senior Patent Counsel at Apple. To focus his approach to support the legal community, Rudhir trained as a professional Co-Active leadership coach and as a yoga and mindfulness meditation instructor. Rudhir founded Krishtel in 2018, where he leads workshops and coaching on business development and leadership. He specializes in creating space for having difficult conversations and growth at the intersection of leadership, well-being, and collective engagement. Krishtel’s flagship BD Circle Program has reached hundreds of law firm partners and executives. Check out the BD Circle video here. More info at www.krishtel.com and LinkedIn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back Stacey Brown Randall, author of The Referable Client Experience: A Proven Method to Generate Referrals Without Asking. Stacey shares her science-based framework for creating client experiences that naturally generate referrals—without the awkwardness of asking. She explains that client experience is not just about doing great work; it’s about how clients feel when working with you. Professionals who intentionally design their client journey to include both excellent results and meaningful relationship-building touchpoints create the emotional connection that makes them truly referable. Stacey outlines her three-stage model—New, Active, and Alumni—and shows how to tailor communication and touchpoints at each phase to build trust and loyalty. She also discusses “referral hot zones,” those key moments when clients are most likely to refer, and how to identify and leverage them strategically. By focusing on both client emotions and relationship touchpoints, professionals can bridge the gap between being referable and receiving consistent, high-quality referrals. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/lWTNQlQ3RMA ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Stacey Brown Randall is the multiple award-winning author of Generating Business Referrals Without Asking, host of the Roadmap to Grow Your Business podcast and national speaker. She has had the privilege of helping well-known corporations and franchises but her focus is on small business owners and solopreneurs including HM Properties, O’Connor Insurance Associates, Keller Williams Real Estate, Farris Cooke CPA, Tyra Law Firm, Nicole Odom Coaching, Slater Interiors, HF Financial, Kintsugi Home Staging, Financial Symmetry, Rae Images, CAJA Bookkeeping, and hundreds more. Stacey has been featured in national publications like Entrepreneur magazine, Investor Business Daily, Forbes, CEO World, Fox News, Cheddar TV Network and more. She received her Master’s in Organizational Communication and is married with three kids. Links: www.StaceyBrownRandall.com www.referralquiz.com http://www.referableclientexperience.com Book link on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Generating-Business-Referrals-Without-Asking/dp/1683509269/ref=sr_1_2?crid=39MDIKFER2FKU&dchild=1&keywords=generating+business+referrals+without+asking&qid=1597412491&s=books&sprefix=generating+business%2Caps%2C233&sr=1-2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back Kevin Wheeler, a seasoned business development consultant with over 30 years of experience advising law and professional services firms on strategy, marketing, and client growth. Together, they explore “Growing Key Clients: The Low-Hanging Fruit of Business Development.” Kevin explains that most firms overlook their most lucrative opportunities—their existing clients. Rather than constantly chasing new business, firms can achieve greater profitability by deepening relationships with key accounts and institutionalizing client management. Kevin outlines the major barriers preventing firms from capitalizing on these opportunities, including compensation structures that reward origination over collaboration and a lack of leadership support for client-focused strategies. He provides a roadmap for building a strong key client program: secure buy-in from firm leadership, appoint dedicated client relationship partners, conduct regular client listening interviews, and link compensation to client growth goals. By developing structured account plans, engaging clients directly for feedback, and mapping relationships strategically, firms can uncover untapped opportunities, strengthen retention, and create long-term growth. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/unWLu82HdqY ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine For the intellectually-driven and results-focused professional who wants to grow their book of business. Visit www.therainmakingmagazine.com to chart your course to greater rainmaking success. ---------------------------------------- This podcast is sponsored by: SurePoint Legal Insights (formerly known as Leopard Solutions) –turning legal intelligence into opportunity Link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Kevin Wheeler has been advising professional services firms on all aspects of strategy, marketing, business development and client relationship management/key account management for more than thirty years. Before setting up Wheeler Associates in 1997, he had been Marketing Director with Nabarro Nathanson, the commercial law firm, and Cinven, the private equity house. He also held various senior in-house strategy and marketing positions with Coopers & Lybrand, now PricewaterhouseCoopers. As a consultant and coach, Kevin has provided services to more than one hundred firms drawn from the legal, accountancy, actuarial, real estate consultancy, tax, corporate finance, management consulting and insolvency practitioner sectors. Wheeler Associates is also a leading provider of strategic and client insight solutions and thought leadership delivered through bespoke market research studies. As well as his consultancy and coaching activities, Kevin writes, blogs and lectures frequently on strategy, marketing, business development and CRM/KAM issues facing professional services organizations. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinjwheeler/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes Jordana Confino, founder of JC Coaching and Consulting and author of the blog Chronicles of a Recovering Type A+ Perfectionist, to explore “The Perfectionist Paradox.” Jordana explains that perfectionism is not about high standards—it’s a fear- and shame-based mindset driven by self-doubt and the need to prove worth. She reveals how this approach undermines both mental health and performance, blocking creativity, risk-taking, and authentic business development. Drawing on neuroscience and positive psychology, she describes how to replace the inner critic’s harsh voice with self-compassion, rewiring the brain through neuroplasticity to enhance confidence and performance. Jordana shares practical strategies to help high-achieving professionals and lawyers break free from destructive perfectionism. These include “drawing your critic” to externalize self-judgment, practicing compassionate self-talk, and identifying core values to shift from fear-based motivation to values-driven achievement. By replacing self-criticism with self-compassion and clarity, professionals can perform at a higher level, strengthen resilience, and enjoy greater fulfillment in their careers and lives. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/Td8DVO6nlZM ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Jordana is a certified professional coach, speaker, and advisor, valued for her expertise in positive psychology and well-being, and her unparalleled ability to connect with and inspire everyone she meets. Seven years after graduating from Yale Law School, Jordana founded JC Coaching & Consulting to empower lawyers and other high-achieving professionals to transform their lives and work for the better. Having spent the bulk of her career working as a lawyer and in legal education at elite institutions, Jordana knows that many high-achieving, successful people hold limiting beliefs that prevent them from truly flourishing. For many years, she was one of them. Jordana transformed her life leveraging the science of positive psychology and human motivation theory, and she is passionate about helping others do the same. Jordana is an Adjunct Professor at Fordham Law School, where she previously served as the inaugural Assistant Dean of Professionalism. Jordana teaches a course on Positive Lawyering, which educates students on how they can harness the insights and science-backed strategies of positive psychology to reach their highest potential and build meaningful, satisfying careers in law. She also teaches Peer Mentoring & Leadership, a one-of-a-kind course designed to equip mentors with the tools and training they need to optimally support their mentees and emerge as leaders in the profession. Jordana was voted Fordham Law Adjunct Professor of the Year in 2021. Website: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/ Blog: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/subscribe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanaconfino/ Values Discovery Guide: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/values Self-Compassion Guide: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/self-compassion-guide Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes David Freeman, award-winning consultant, best-selling author, and founder of Lawyer Book Builder, to discuss how laterals can thrive when joining a new firm. Drawing from over 30 years of coaching thousands of lawyers, David shares actionable strategies to help partners integrate quickly, build internal allies, and accelerate business development. He likens lateral transitions to being “the new kid in school” — success depends on taking ownership of relationship-building rather than waiting for the firm to do it. David explains how laterals can identify internal allies across practice groups, collaborate with marketing and BD professionals, and proactively offer value to colleagues through what he calls “gifts.” He introduces practical tools like the Memory Matrix—a simple spreadsheet to track and maintain relationships—and emphasizes consistency, visibility, and giving before asking. The conversation closes with three key takeaways: create a detailed integration and BD plan, track and nurture high-value relationships monthly, and build an accountability system to ensure consistent follow-through. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/bToVlYNrosk ---------------------------------------- 📖 Subscribe to The Rainmaking Magazine If you’re serious about growing your book of business, you’ll want to check out The Rainmaking Magazine — a monthly digital publication packed with insights, strategies, and real-world advice for professionals in law, consulting, recruiting, and beyond. 💡 Created for results-driven rainmakers who value credibility and substance. 💥 Now live — subscribe today www.therainmakingmagazine.com ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- David H. Freeman, J.D. is a former practicing lawyer from New York, an award-winning consultant, and a two-time best-selling author. He’s a member of the National Law Journal Hall of Fame for being voted the #1 business development consultant and coach in the United States for several consecutive years. For over 30 years, David has trained and coached well over 10,000 lawyers in over 235 law firms world-wide, he’s worked with nearly half of the Am Law 200, he’s the author and co-author of 16 books on law firm business development and leadership, and he’s the creator of Lawyer BookBuilder, an step-by-step, turnkey training and accountability program that shows lawyers how to become exceptional rainmakers. Links: https://lawyerbookbuilder.com/ https://davidfreemanconsulting.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Jim Camp Jr., retired Air Force Major General, author of Lead From No, and principal at the Camp Negotiation Institute. Jim shares his systematic approach to negotiation, which combines mindset, structure, and behavior to help professionals achieve stronger outcomes without unnecessary compromise. He explains why most people mistakenly equate negotiation with giving something up, and instead reframes it as “the effort to bring about an agreement with all parties having the right to say no.” Jim outlines practical tools like the negotiation checklist and journal, emphasizing preparation, emotional control, and asking the right questions to uncover an opponent’s true concerns, vision, and decision-making process. He highlights how avoiding pressure and welcoming “no” builds trust, lowers tension, and leads to more durable agreements. With stories from both business and military contexts, Jim demonstrates how negotiation skills are essential across professional services, leadership, and even everyday life. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/rVMKH3ZBKCc ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Jim, recently retired as a Major General in the United States Air Force (Jim Camp Jr.’s bio), rejoined the Camp Negotiations team after serving many years as the Commander of the Ohio Air National Guard, and National Guard Assistant to the Commander of the US Transportation Command. Prior to dedicating his full-time efforts to military service, Jim helped build Camp Negotiations from 2000-2007 as a coach and contributor to “No, The Only System of Negotiation You Need For Work and Home.” Serving at the National strategic level, Jim was personally responsible for negotiating the largest pay increase in history for thousands of Air National Guard Instructor Pilots. Jim credits his military success to the Camp System of Negotiation. “If you lead people, you negotiate every day.” Despite Jim's long military career, he’s remained an owner of Camp Negotiations and is now fully re-engaged as a coach. His diverse leadership background, education, and military experiences bring a welcomed perspective to the Camp Negotiations Team. In fact, Jim Camp Jr. recently published his new book, Lead from No: A Systematic Approach to Leadership Negotiation. His new work is highly acclaimed and considered to be a long-awaited sequel to his father’s book, Start with No. His combination of business and leadership coaching stories makes a strong case that the Camp Negotiation system is highly effective and time-tested. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-camp-jr-2a8ab79/ www.campnegotiations.com https://campnegotiations.com/lead-rom-no-book-jim-camp-jr https://campnegotiations.com/coaches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this legal-focused edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Randy Peck (CEO) and Jordan Peck (VP of Business Development) of Peck Financial about the crucial but often overlooked issue of partner benefits during law firm transitions. Under the theme “Rainmakers Without Umbrellas”, they discuss how many high-earning partners neglect their own financial protection, leaving themselves and their families exposed when changing firms or going through mergers. From life insurance to disability and long-term care coverage, the Pecks explain how benefits often don’t keep pace with rising compensation—and why partners must treat themselves like their own clients by proactively evaluating their protection. They also highlight specific risks such as assuming new firms will provide sufficient coverage, overlooking portability of benefits, and ignoring international complications. With stories from decades of advising AmLaw 100 and 200 firms, Randy and Jordan stress that the biggest pitfall is simply looking past these issues during transitions. Their three key action steps: regularly audit your coverage, inventory benefits before moving, and compare them with offerings at your new firm. By taking these steps, partners can avoid being “rainmakers without umbrellas” and ensure long-term financial security. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/kluHcPD4bqs ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Peck Financial is an established industry leader specializing in executive benefit solutions. For more than 30 years our core business has focused on developing and administering employer-sponsored executive disability, life, and long-term care insurance plans. While these plans have become more common in recent years, our clients consistently remark on our responsiveness and unmatched customer service. Links: www.peckfinancial.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-peck-992786156/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/randallpeck/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with social media strategist and LinkedIn expert Kait LeDonne about the shifting landscape of LinkedIn. Kait traces how the platform has evolved—from being a digital résumé hub to today’s creator-driven space optimized for knowledge and advice. She explains why vulnerability posts surged during the pandemic, how LinkedIn adjusted its algorithm to emphasize value-driven content, and what professionals should focus on now: consistency, storytelling, and educational insights. Kait also provides practical guidance for professional services providers who want to turn LinkedIn visibility into real business opportunities. She highlights the power of newsletters, personal branding, and using story as a bridge to credibility and trust. With actionable strategies—posting at least twice a week, engaging meaningfully with comments, and adding strategic connections daily—Kait shows how professionals can build influence, grow their networks, and convert visibility into revenue. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/o_pgpKiGDu8 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Kait LeDonne is a personal branding expert who specializes in transforming professionals into industry leaders, forging powerful employee personal brands, and demystifying the essentials of impactful personal branding. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitledonne-personalbrandingexpert/ https://www.kaitledonne.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Gavin Sharpe, former lawyer, global legal search firm CEO, and now performance and leadership coach, to discuss the blind spots of rainmakers. Gavin explains that blind spots are unconscious behaviors others see but we often miss—like interrupting, failing to delegate, or hiding vulnerability. Left unchecked, these blind spots create limiting assumptions such as “I’m not a natural rainmaker” or “asking for help is weakness,” which can undermine success and stall growth. Gavin shares how lawyers’ personalities and the pressures of perfectionism often reinforce these blind spots, creating a cycle of stress and missed opportunities. He offers strategies for uncovering and challenging limiting beliefs, from seeking peer and client feedback to reframing outdated stories we tell ourselves. By identifying, examining, and dismantling these beliefs, professionals can unlock untapped potential, build stronger teams, and become more effective rainmakers. Gavin closes with actionable steps to help listeners start recognizing and addressing their own blind spots. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/8rGE3jRwZTM ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- About Gavin Sharpe: “I blend coaching, business, and psychology, to facilitate ambitious leaders achieve their full potential. With a strong focus on the legal sector, I empower lawyers to cut through the noise, lead with purpose, and become great rainmakers.” Links: Webinar: https://www.rivierawellbeing.com/events/the-rainmaker-playbook-attracting-and-activating-top-performers/ Ditch The Pitch: Rethinking Sales in Law Managing Law Firm Talent in 2025: My Top Three Tips Lawyers Are the Biggest Imposters of Them All. I Should Know: I Am One of Them. Partners Are From Mars, Associates Are From Venus: The Real War for Talent Rainmakers Are Not The Answer To Law Firm Transformational Growth. Here Is Why What the Monaco Grand Prix Teaches Us About Performance Are You A Workaholic? Gavin Sharpe on Riviera Radio, Sept 2024 "Gavin Sharpe: Becoming a Rainmaker Starts with Mindset" Podcast www.rivierawellbeing.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this legal-focused edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Camille Stell, co-author of Respect: Insights to Attorney Compensation Plans. Together, they explore why compensation is more than just numbers—it’s about respect, transparency, and culture. Camille explains how lawyers often interpret pay as a measure of personal value, which can make compensation discussions emotionally charged. She shares insights into the complexities of law firm compensation, including the influence of multiple committees, the challenges of integrating laterals, and generational expectations around transparency. Camille also highlights how compensation strategies shape firm culture, impact collaboration, and affect retention and succession planning. She outlines emerging trends, such as rewarding team contributions, expanding non-equity career paths, and building transparency into comp systems. For law firm leaders, Camille suggests auditing current systems, aligning compensation with strategic goals, and increasing year-round communication to reduce the stress of “comp season.” Her practical guidance helps firms create fairer, more effective plans that balance individual rewards with long-term institutional success. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/8roVK-hYZ48 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Camille Stell serves as Vice President of Risk & Practice Management for Lawyers Mutual Liability Insurance Company of North Carolina, where she provides coaching and consulting on succession planning, law firm compensation, and law firm innovation. She is a legal industry leader in law firm management, business development, and strategic planning. A Fellow in the College of Law Practice Management, Camille is a sought-after speaker and writer, having taught CLEs and led workshops for attorneys and legal professionals nationwide. A Meredith College graduate, she has been recognized by North Carolina Lawyers Weekly and the Triangle Business Journal for her leadership and impact. Camille is the co-author of two books written during the pandemic: Designing a Succession Plan for your Law Practice: A Step-by-Step Guide for Preparing Your Firm for Maximum Value, published in 2021 and RESPECT: Insights in Law Firm Compensation, 2nd Edition published in October 2024. Links: Contact: [email protected] Direct Dial: 919.447.3354 https://www.linkedin.com/in/camillestell/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Sue Heilbronner, executive coach, speaker, and author of Never Ask for the Sale: Supercharge Your Business with the Power of Passionate Ambivalence. Sue explains why many professional services providers resist selling themselves and how to shift that mindset by embracing authenticity and confidence. She introduces the concept of passionate ambivalence—the ability to be genuinely excited about opportunities while remaining unattached to the outcome. This approach helps professionals appear more credible, command higher fees, and attract long-term clients. Sue also addresses common challenges such as imposter syndrome, over-eagerness, and desperation in sales. She emphasizes qualifying prospects, presenting yourself as the product, and building thought leadership through strong digital presence and meaningful contributions. With practical strategies for pricing, follow-up, and conference networking, Sue provides actionable insights for professionals looking to transform their approach to business development and rainmaking. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/va71ZBSew5s ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Sue is a sought-after speaker, startup CEO, mentor, adjunct professor of entrepreneurship, facilitator, strategic advisor, Conscious Leadership coach, co-founder of the MergeLane investment fund, creator of the Leadership Camp training program for high-potential leaders, former federal prosecutor, and a direct and fearless catalyst for change. Sue has the privilege of bringing her speaking, TED and TEDx-style speaker coaching, facilitation, coaching, Conscious Leadership, and consulting expertise to companies around the world. She’s worked with teams and leaders from Facebook, G2, Salesforce, Gainsight, Kiva, Uptake, Oracle, and more. Sue has been a CEO and CRO for digital marketing, technology, and e-commerce companies since the earliest days of the Internet. She began her career as an attorney – last as a federal prosecutor with the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. She transitioned to business by founding an online baby gift company in 1999, which she later sold when she joined Discovery Communications, the parent company of Discovery Channel and 15 other international networks. Sue went on to lead companies in the interactive travel, digital publishing, e-commerce, home maintenance, and online education sectors. Sue serves as a mentor with Techstars and an adjunct professor of law and entrepreneurship at the University of Colorado Law School. Sue is a powerful presence who inspires audiences with her authenticity, directness, quick mind, and humor. Sue earned a BA from Oberlin College and a JD and Master of Public Policy from Duke University. She lives in Boulder and Chicago. Links: https://www.heysue.com/ https://www.heysue.com/never-ask-for-the-sale https://www.linkedin.com/in/sueheilbronner/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love sits down with Patrick Morin, CEO of Transact Capital, to discuss how rainmakers can maximize their time at conferences. Patrick shares proven strategies that have generated millions in business, from doing research and segmenting attendees before arrival, to positioning yourself in the right places—like across from registration desks or in the front rows of sessions—to build meaningful connections. He emphasizes preparation, authenticity, and focusing on relationship-building rather than selling. Patrick also highlights post-conference follow-up tactics that strengthen client development, such as sending short, thoughtful notes and sharing industry intelligence without expecting anything in return. He stresses the importance of speaking opportunities, attending offsite events, and maintaining high energy throughout the conference to create loyal connections. His practical insights show how professionals can turn conferences into powerful rainmaking opportunities. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/m2BP_nXHcNI ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Patrick Morin is the CEO of Transact Capital Partners, an investment banking firm specializing in mergers and acquisitions of technology, Human Capital Management, industrials, and veteran-led companies. Patrick has two professional roles: 1. Merger & Acquisition advisory to Staffing, EdTech, PropTech, and SaaS companies. 2. Professional speaker addressing conventions, conferences, and corporate & association meetings across the US and internationally on the subjects of M&A strategies and building high-performance corporate cultures. Links: https://transactcapital.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmorin/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Catherine MacDonagh, a legal industry consultant and author of Lean Six Sigma for Law. Catherine explains how process improvement—defined as analyzing and refining repeatable, describable steps to achieve better outcomes—can significantly enhance client service, profitability, and rainmaking. She notes that while lawyers often resist by saying every matter is unique, many steps in legal work and firm operations (like intake, billing, or onboarding) are recurring processes ripe for improvement. By using tools such as scorecards, impact/ease matrices, and stakeholder analysis, firms can identify high-impact areas, streamline workflows, and improve both client and employee experiences. Catherine shares real-world success stories, including a global law department that collaborated with a law firm to reduce billing inefficiencies and deepen their relationship. She stresses the importance of involving cross-functional teams, listening to the “voice of the client,” and embedding change management into the process. Continuous improvement, she argues, is not just about efficiency—it’s about building stronger client partnerships and staying competitive. Catherine closes with three action steps: start by trying small improvements, commit to continuous learning, and build skills in Lean, Six Sigma, and related disciplines. Her message is clear: process improvement works in law, and adopting it can transform rainmaking efforts and client development. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/Q36c2IBRpdc --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- A Legal Lean Sigma® Black Belt and a certified Six Sigma Green Belt, Catherine is the CEO and a Founder of the Legal Lean Sigma Institute, LLC. LLSI offers consulting and the first and only process improvement and project management certifications, courses, and workshops designed for the legal profession. Catherine created Legal Lean Sigma®, the award winning Legal WorkOut® and Legal Lean Sigma® Design Thinking. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinemacdonagh/ https://legalleansigma.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Jeff Brandeis about how professionals can use webinars as a powerful tool for rainmaking. Jeff explains that too many webinars fall flat because they are one-sided PowerPoint presentations that disengage audiences. Instead, he emphasizes creating interactive experiences—adding music, visuals, polls, and live engagement to keep participants interested. By building rapport with attendees—just as one would in a networking conversation—presenters can foster the know-like-trust factor essential for winning new business. Jeff also highlights the importance of asking the right questions, adapting content based on audience responses, and using storytelling to create authentic connections. The discussion also touches on practical strategies to elevate webinars into true business development platforms. Jeff advises presenters to avoid “death by PowerPoint” by limiting slides to a few bullet points and keeping themselves on screen to maintain presence. He underscores the importance of a clear call to action—whether scheduling a consultation, downloading a guide, or visiting a website—and suggests using QR codes to streamline engagement. Finally, Jeff offers three action steps: audit your past webinars to assess engagement, reduce reliance on slides in favor of conversation, and integrate polls, questions, and interactive elements throughout. By doing so, rainmakers can transform webinars from passive lectures into dynamic business-generating conversations. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/OVMKVK0eNmg --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Are you ready to elevate your webinar game and captivate your audience like never before? Welcome to Engaging Webinars, where we specialize in helping professionals create dynamic and interactive virtual presentations that drive engagement and boost sales. Our Mission: To empower you with the tools and strategies needed to deliver compelling webinars that not only inform but also inspire and engage your audience. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbrandeis/ https://engagingwebinars.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews sales performance expert and coach Walt Crosby about how introverts can excel in business development. Walt explains why introverts often have an advantage: their natural tendency toward active listening allows them to truly understand client needs, peel back the layers to uncover the emotional drivers behind decisions, and build deeper connections. He stresses the importance of mirroring tone and cadence, setting upfront agreements to control meetings, and using curiosity and empathy to create trust. Walt also outlines how skepticism—politely pushing back for clarity—can strengthen credibility and uncover real issues. The conversation explores practical strategies for networking and client engagement, especially for introverts who may feel uncomfortable initiating contact. Walt encourages professionals to develop a clear picture of their ideal client, focus on learning about others before sharing their own story, and have clear next steps after every interaction. By combining curiosity, empathy, and targeted energy, introverts can leverage their strengths to become powerful rainmakers. The episode closes with three actionable steps: define your ideal client with precision, use skepticism to clarify and avoid assumptions, and establish concrete follow-up actions after each conversation. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/VNT8k8ILO4U --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Walter is on a mission to help Visionary leaders build a high-performance sale organization with a consistently reliable revenue forecast to double revenue. As CEO of Helix Sales Development, he only engages with growth-minded entrepreneurs who are frustrated with underperformance, and have the desire & commitment to build a performance-based sales culture. His clients say the journey can be challenging; however, the results are transformative and produce repeatable revenue growth with margin integrity. Walter is a proud alum of the University of Michigan and holds an advanced degree from the School of Hard-Won Wisdom. He spent the majority of his career as a salesman who was frequently promoted to sales manager. He’s sold a variety of products with complex B2B sales cycles including LED luminaries, commercial signage, financial services, synchronized clocks systems, and commercial fire alarm systems. Frustrated by the lack of training each time he was promoted to sales management roles, he sought training and mentors to help him grow as a leader. This led to the creation of his own firm, Helix, to hire, train, and influence successful sales teams. He has formed strategic relationships to augment the sales coaching services he provides. Walter is a certified partner with the Objective Management Group, an award-winning provider of evidence-based sales evaluation and assessment tools. Helix’s technology partner is Membrain. Those that know him best often find him reflecting over a fine cigar in his private cigar lounge. In fact, he speaks regularly about his two favorite passions as host of his podcast called Sales and Cigars. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walterlcrosby/ https://helixsalesdevelopment.com/ Order Walt Crosby’s book Scale Your Sales here: https://www.amazon.com/Scale-Your-Sales-Critical-Mistakes/dp/1959911252 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Troy Korsgaden, insurance industry consultant and business development expert, about how professionals can avoid common pitfalls in client development. Troy emphasizes that the biggest mistake professionals make is failing to be intentional. He shares how building habits—like stopping for brief, purposeful introductions during daily routines—can generate long-term business success without requiring large time investments. His “stacking” method, combined with calendaring time for outreach, ensures that business development becomes a natural part of the day, not an afterthought. The conversation also explores the importance of follow-up, with Troy reinforcing that consistent communication is more impactful than any one-time pitch. Troy also introduces the concept of being a “discussion partner”—someone clients turn to not just for services, but for strategic conversations and trusted advice. He encourages professionals, including introverted lawyers, to shift their mindset away from sales toward authentic, service-first relationship building. By being a reliable resource and showing curiosity, professionals can earn trust and grow business organically. The episode closes with three action steps: adopt the “law of 72” to act on new ideas quickly, schedule time for strategic thinking, and never remove critical follow-up items from the calendar. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/t_g-mzKSI4M --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Troy Korsgaden is a highly sought-after insurance and financial services consultant. He is the principal of Korsgaden International which specializes in global marketing, distribution, agency building and technology strategies for many of the world’s largest insurance carriers and financial services companies. As a consultant, speaker and author of seven books, Korsgaden’s mission is to help the insurance industry and its representatives wake up to the radical transformation taking place in the industry and create the necessary tools and roadmaps to best navigate and build success in the rapidly changing insurance and financial services landscape. A widely-respected expert in personal distribution and other methods, Korsgaden trains corporate insurance and financial services leaders on customer service, change management and transformational work, among many other critical issues impacting insurance carriers and financial services companies. Korsgaden helps those in the industry learn how to better communicate with their teams and consumers so that consumers develop a higher appreciation for the value of insurance products and their insurance advisor relationships. Korsgaden International provides turn-key approaches using leading technologies and management tools which create fluency and seamlessness in product delivery and customer service. Hundreds of thousands of insurance and financial services executives, agents, brokers and staff members have been inspired and empowered by Korsgaden's seminars and guidance for over 30 years. Link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troykorsgaden/ https://www.korsgaden.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Lana Manganiello, law firm growth leader, business development coach, and lateral integration strategist, about why business development is career development. Lana explains that the skills and activities required to grow a book of business—building visibility, cultivating credibility, and developing strategic relationships—are the same ones that create career options, whether an attorney wants to make equity partner, move firms, or transition in-house. She emphasizes that investing in business development not only generates autonomy and control over your practice but also increases leverage within your current organization, allowing you to shape your role into something more fulfilling. Lana offers practical guidance on developing both internal and external strategic relationships, highlighting the value of connecting with colleagues, mentors, and professional staff inside the firm, as well as clients, referral sources, and industry contacts outside of it. She encourages attorneys to start now—regardless of career stage—to avoid missed opportunities, and to approach networking with authenticity, preparation, and mutual value. The episode closes with three action steps: reconnect with one contact this week, make your expertise visible, and say yes to an opportunity that aligns with your long-term goals, even if it feels uncomfortable. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/HqWzotNIuaE --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- With over 15 years of experience in business development, sales management, and professional coaching, Lana Manganiello is a recognized leader in elevating legal professionals and their practices. Her career spans leadership roles in business development and marketing, where she was directly responsible for driving growth, managing sales teams, and creating strategies that deliver measurable results. Lana’s guidance is rooted in both personal experience and her extensive work with hundreds of professionals across diverse practices, goals, and personalities. She has partnered with AmLaw 200 firms, boutique practices, and individual lawyers at all career stages to align their values, goals, and strengths with actionable business development strategies. Career Highlights: Deep Expertise: Lana has designed and delivered programs that have transformed attorneys into trusted advisors, helping them cultivate rewarding practices. Leadership: As President of the LA County Bar Association’s Counsel for Justice, she has spearheaded initiatives to expand access to justice and enhance diversity in the legal profession. Recognition: Named a “Global Leader in Legal Strategy and Consulting” by Lawdragon and a “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Accessibility Visionary” by Los Angeles Times Magazine. Impact: Lana’s clients report significant professional growth, including partnership offers, increased visibility, and greater fulfillment in their careers. Lana’s commitment extends beyond her professional work. She actively serves on boards that advance equity and access to justice, and she’s passionate about supporting attorneys in creating a positive impact on their firms and communities. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanamanganiello/ https://practicegrowthpartner.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Tony Gray, author of The Business Development Body of Knowledge and founder of the Global Business Development Association, about how professionals can lead with trust in business development. Tony shares a neuroscience-based model of trust built on three pillars: purpose, empathy, and truth. He explains how these elements activate specific brain chemicals—oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin—that foster genuine connection and credibility. Rather than rely on anecdotal tactics, Tony advocates for a scientific, principle-based approach to building long-term business relationships, emphasizing that aligning with a prospect’s purpose and being candid—even when it means saying you’re not the right fit—can create lasting trust and unexpected referrals. The conversation also explores the differences between empathy and sympathy, how to build the “muscle memory” of candor, and why referrals are the most scalable form of business development. Tony introduces his framework for understanding the full customer journey—from awareness to advocacy—and shows how business development differs from sales or marketing in its exponential impact. With practical guidance and deep insight into human behavior, this episode delivers a compelling case for why professionals must build trust deliberately, not by chance. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/le6LOfxBxhM --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Tony helps companies grow with 30 years experience in business development, sales, and customer success. Tony provided Chief Growth Officer support services for 24 small, medium, and large corporations. One client grew by as much as 100% in one year directly due to his efforts. He cultivated relationships with prospects and generated new business of $800M+ with single award wins up to $230M+ Total Contract Value (TCV). His extensive network and understanding of the government contracting procurement cycle, regulations, federal budgetary effects, and industry landscape helped generate an average of $64M per year in new revenue for his clients. Tony created marketing and sales budgets, along with innovative methods to reduce costs and schedules by as much as 20%. He routinely led sales efforts and developed trusting relationships with all levels of leadership and customers, including senior executive engagement. Tony is the author of the Business Development Body of Knowledge and creator of the Global Business Development Association Business Development Professional (BDP) certification. He is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy with a Master of Business Administration from Virginia Tech. Links: Get your copy of the Business Development Body of Knowledge on Amazon: https://a.co/d/ckiz9r0 Connect with Tony on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-gray-mba-bdp/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Steve Seckler, attorney coach and author of Think Like a Lawyer, Act Like an Entrepreneur. Steve shares how lawyers can overcome their aversion to selling by reframing business development as an authentic, relationship-based activity. Drawing from his own journey as a risk-averse skeptic, Steve offers practical tools for lawyers who want to grow their practices without feeling like salespeople. He emphasizes the importance of listening, curiosity, and small, consistent actions that build trust—like sending follow-ups, maintaining light touches with contacts, and showing up at live events. Steve also outlines the value of identifying a niche to become more memorable in a competitive marketplace. He encourages lawyers to engage in business development activities that feel natural and aligned with their personalities, whether that’s bar association involvement, speaking engagements, or nonprofit service. Key takeaways include avoiding the pitfall of waiting for a “rainy day” to market, following up with intention, and starting relationship-building early in one’s career. The episode concludes with three action steps: gain clarity on who you serve, commit consistent time to marketing, and pursue authentic strategies that reflect your strengths. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/lv5-EdTyTRQ --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Steve has been a trusted advisor to attorneys for 25+ years and has coached hundreds of lawyers at all stages of their careers. He has worked with attorneys from a broad mix of law firms and industries. As a lawyer himself, Steve has a deep understanding of the business of law and the life of a lawyer. Steve is a regular speaker at bar associations and writes frequently about careers, marketing, and leadership. He is an active member of the ProVisors business network and serves on the Board of the Career Center of the American Bar Association. He also hosts the popular Counsel to Counsel Podcast. Steve brings a unique perspective to coaching. He was a legal recruiter for over two decades and a Program Attorney at Massachusetts Continuing Legal Education for seven years where he developed and organized100s of seminars. Since 2021, he has been ranked highly in the Massachusetts Lawyer’s Weekly Reader Rankings Awards. Links: Order Steve’s book: https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/449547309/ Twitter: @stephenseckler Website: CounselToCounsel.com Show: Counsel to Counsel with Stephen Seckler, Esq. LinkedIn: Stephen Seckler Blog: https://www.seckler.com/blog/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love speaks with Andy Buyting, author of Double Sales, Zero Salespeople, about how professionals in service industries can gain a competitive edge by strategically researching the competition. Andy breaks down a detailed, data-driven approach using platforms like SEMrush to analyze traffic sources, keyword effectiveness, and competitor performance—distinguishing between direct and aspirational competitors. He emphasizes the value of identifying non-branded keywords (those not tied to a specific company name) to capture inbound traffic from prospects searching for solutions to existing problems. Andy also shares compelling examples of companies that unlocked untapped markets by targeting overlooked search terms, such as “landlord insurance” or “how to write an RFP for a firetruck.” He encourages professionals to think like their prospects and align website messaging with customer fears and motivations. Key action steps include analyzing competitors, getting creative with keyword strategy (even bidding on competitor names), and refining website content to convert traffic effectively. The episode concludes with an introduction to Andy’s firm, Tulip Media, which offers digital marketing and custom publishing services for professional firms. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/z__ttxX8JZU --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Andy Buyting is a leader in thought leadership and content marketing. His “integrated content” strategy has served both himself and his clients exceedingly well. Andy’s thought leadership journey started when he published his first business book in 2007 and started publishing his first magazines in 2009. Since that time, he has leveraged his integrated approach to print, digital and interactive marketing strategies to establish himself as a thought leader in print marketing and brand positioning. Andy’s 2nd book, How to Win Clients & Influence People, is now in its 2nd edition and is an International Bestseller on Amazon. In 2021, Andy co-authored Double Sales/ Zero Salespeople: Optimize Your Sales and Marketing Into One Business Development Strategy That Works! Through Tulip Media Group, his team helps to fuel revenue growth for their Client-Partners through effective marketing that works. Links: https://andybuyting.com/ https://andybuyting.com/how-to-win-clients/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Neil Barrow, a business development consultant for professional services firms, about how partners can generate more revenue through laser-focused relationship-building. Neil challenges the common notion that business development requires chasing every shiny new tool or tactic. Instead, he emphasizes the power of deepening relationships with a select group of key clients and referral sources. He introduces a practical “tiering” system to segment clients based on relationship strength and strategic value—encouraging professionals to identify their top 15–20 clients and focus on creating intentional, value-based conversations with them. Neil also discusses how to apply the same tiering strategy to referral sources by identifying where past business came from and nurturing those relationships systematically. He walks listeners through actionable steps, including reviewing your book of business, categorizing contacts by relationship level (friend, collegial, professional), and scheduling consistent outreach. With insights on mindset, time management, and long-term strategy, this episode is a roadmap for professionals looking to grow their book of business through clarity, structure, and focus. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/u0bi7AIL-A4 --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Neil Barrow is the founder of EnabledBD, helping professional services firms get BD cooking and UndergroundBD, an online community for business development professionals looking for clarity and community. He’s a software sales guy that was (fortunately) talked into working in public accounting, leading origination efforts at 2 different firms for over 8 years. Since then, he’s worked with dozens of firms to build or enhance their business development function (spoiler: BD is not a soft skill). More importantly, he is a Certified Cicerone (beer sommelier) and loves connecting with friends and strangers to chat about business development and/or best beers to try. Most importantly, he lives in Fort Worth with his wife of over a decade and a kiddo who is dominating kindergarten. Links: linkedin.com/in/neil-barrow https://enabledbd.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dr. Megan Lyons—Harvard grad, former consultant, and board-certified clinical nutritionist—about how high-performing professionals can optimize their health without sacrificing productivity. Dr. Lyons shares that the goal isn’t perfection, but performance with minimal health compromise. She identifies common obstacles faced by rainmakers, including adrenal dysregulation, poor nutrition habits, and the misconception that prioritizing health equals losing your edge. Using relatable examples, she explains how small changes—like eating 20–30 grams of protein at breakfast and avoiding “naked carbs”—can create immediate improvements in energy, focus, and long-term well-being. Dr. Lyons provides tactical recommendations tailored for professionals under pressure: building nutrient-dense meals using her VVFP model (veggie, veggie, fat, protein), managing caffeine and sugar intake strategically, and planning meals like a crustless quiche to save time and boost nutrition. She also emphasizes the importance of short breaks, mindful eating, and limiting alcohol consumption without sacrificing the ritual of winding down. Whether you're aiming to avoid burnout or optimize your daily routine, this episode offers a science-backed, approachable strategy for achieving sustainable high performance through better health habits. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/jSVh2QMPovY --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Megan Lyons is a sought-after health & wellness expert who is deeply passionate about inspiring others to feel their healthiest and happiest. Megan is a Harvard graduate, MBA, and former management consultant who left the business world to follow her passion for wellness by opening The Lyons’ Share Wellness in 2014. Since then, she’s earned a Master's degree in Holistic Nutrition, and become Double Board Certified in Holistic Nutrition and Clinical Nutrition, and a Doctorate of Clinical Nutrition, and has amassed over 10,000 hours of 1-to-1 nutrition consulting with clients internationally. Megan runs a top podcast on health and wellness, “Wellness Your Way with Megan Lyons.” Her Revitalize Health Accelerator is a community of health-minded individuals looking to continuously uplevel their health and wellness. Links: Links: Dr. Megan Lyons Website: https://www.thelyonsshare.org/The Revitalize Health Accelerator: https://www.thelyonsshare.org/revitalize/ Podcast: https://www.thelyonsshare.org/wellness-your-way-podcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelyonsshare/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheLyonsShareWellness/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganoharelyons Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this Legal Tuesday episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Nicole Kosoff, culture leader at a prominent Los Angeles law firm, about how intentional, values-based culture can be a firm’s greatest tool for retention, productivity, and engagement. Nicole defines culture as the unique personality of a firm shaped by its values—and emphasizes that the most impactful cultural shifts often come at little or no financial cost. She shares examples such as using inclusive language (“works with” instead of “works for”), celebrating personal milestones like birthdays and baby showers, and hosting family-inclusive events that humanize relationships across the firm. Nicole outlines how cultivating culture starts with small gestures that make people feel seen, valued, and connected—whether it’s remembering names, following up on hobbies, or inviting input through surveys and conversations. She explains that culture-building should align with firm values and be supported by leadership but executed through consistent, people-first actions. This episode offers a practical roadmap for law firm leaders who want to create workplaces where people genuinely want to stay—and thrive. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/e8sd3kngfZ8 --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Nicole Kosoff serves as the cultural ambassador for Greenberg Glusker, a regional law firm based out of Los Angeles, where she manages employee engagement and contributes to recruitment and retention efforts. She is also involved in the firm’s corporate social responsibility efforts, including diversity and inclusion as well as community service initiatives. She is a contributor to a variety of industry publications including law.com. During her time at Greenberg Glusker, the firm has been included in Vault’s Best Midsize Law Firms to Work For, where it has been ranked #1 in Firm Culture twice and #1 in Wellness three times. The firm has also been recognized in Los Angeles Business Journal’s Best Places to Work and Most Admired Law Firms. Link: https://www.greenbergglusker.com /https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-kosoff/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares a timely message on building strategic alliance partnerships—perfectly aligned with the values celebrated during the Fourth of July. Scott distinguishes these partnerships from simple referral relationships by defining them as intentional, mutually beneficial collaborations where both parties actively promote each other's solutions. Scott offers practical steps to develop two to five meaningful strategic alliances, including identifying thought leaders in your niche, reaching out with genuine value, and planting seeds for long-term collaboration. Whether it's sitting on panels, co-hosting webinars, or quoting others in your writing, Scott outlines how small, intentional actions can lead to powerful results. He encourages listeners to document their goals, take focused action, and build these relationships organically over time. This episode also introduces the new Legal Tuesday series, which will feature law-specific topics to complement the broader professional content released on Thursdays. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/kt0kPSyNExc --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Scott Love is a legal recruiter who is solely focused on recruiting corporate and finance partners for global law firms in major markets. He is also a coauthor of Rainmaker Confidential and speaks at conferences professionally to business groups on sales, client development, and recruiting. Links: therainmakingpodcast.com theplacementclub.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love interviews Raul Hernandez Ochoa, a consultant who helps founders and service-based business owners scale profitably while maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Raul shares a powerful framework for maximizing profit per client by rethinking how services are sold, presented, and delivered. He emphasizes that sales is not the end of the client journey but the start of a long-term value-focused relationship. Key components of his framework include identifying your most valuable client segments, articulating tangible and perceived value, and bundling services into outcome-focused packages that align with client needs.Raul outlines a three-part strategic approach: (1) define ideal client segments based on value and alignment, (2) develop compelling business cases that reflect real transformation and urgency, and (3) productize service delivery to create consistent, scalable offerings. He also addresses common challenges professionals face, such as underpricing their work, clinging to traditional service selling, and failing to adapt their sales process. Throughout the episode, Raul offers real-world examples and actionable insights, making this a must-listen for anyone in professional services looking to boost profitability and impact. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/JsxuTbaCidU --------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Maximizing Profit Per Client with Raul Hernandez Ochoa Raul Hernandez Ochoa partners with founders to implement proven strategies that increase company performance, scale profitably, and serve more clients without sacrificing their lifestyles. Links: https://dogoodwork.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dogoodwork/ Raul’s books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Raul-Hernandez-Ochoa/author/B085P3L9GK?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=f4ddc8e0-da04-40c4-a1bd-e392ce0a7993 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this inaugural “Legal Tuesday” edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love introduces a new series focused specifically on legal professionals, offering expert insight for lawyers navigating complex transitions. Scott speaks with Hilary Gerzhoy, a seasoned ethics lawyer and thought leader on professional responsibility, who shares valuable guidance on avoiding ethical pitfalls during lateral partner moves. She outlines real-world examples of landmines, such as premature client contact, improper solicitation of team members, and breach of fiduciary duty—each of which can derail a move or trigger legal retaliation. The conversation covers essential considerations for departing lawyers, including how to handle sensitive communications, what firms can legally withhold, and how to protect client relationships ethically. The episode is especially timely for law firm partners considering a move, and serves as a cautionary guide to avoid becoming tomorrow’s legal headline. This Tuesday edition of the podcast delivers focused legal guidance, while Thursday episodes will continue serving broader professional services audiences. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/LAtWIzixoeY ---------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- As Vice Chair of the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct Review Committee and a member of the ABA’s Ethics and Professional Responsibility Committee, Hilary Gerzhoy focuses her practice on legal ethics matters and white–collar defense. Legal Ethics Hilary represents lawyers, firms, and companies facing the full range of legal ethics matters, including disciplinary investigations, legal malpractice litigation, fee disputes, bar admissions, unauthorized practice of law (UPL) inquiries, conflicts, advertising, lateral partner moves, and law firm formations and dissolutions. Hilary has represented lawyers in front of every disciplinary body at the state and federal level in D.C. and Maryland, before the Virginia State Bar, and before the USPTO’s Office of Enrollment and Discipline (OED). She is an adjunct law professor at the Georgetown University Law Center where she teaches legal ethics, and she serves on Law360′s Legal Ethics Editorial Advisory Board. Hilary serves on the D.C. Circuit’s Advisory Committee on Admissions and Grievances, ​​a Committee appointed by the Judges of the D.C. Circuit. A frequent writer, Hilary has published more than forty articles on developments in legal ethics and her work has been featured in the Chicago Tribune, Bloomberg Law, Law360, the Washington Lawyer, and LexisNexis. She is regularly quoted as a legal ethics ​​leader in publications including The National Law Journal, Law.com, Bloomberg, and Law360. She is a regular speaker at the D.C. Bar, the American Bar Association, and the Practising Law Institute. White-Collar Criminal Defense Hilary represents clients through all stages of litigation, from the initial complaint through trial and appeal in state and federal courts. Hilary represents ​​companies and individuals in a range of white-collar criminal investigations, including by the DOJ, the FCC, and the New York and D.C. Attorneys General. Hilary has been repeatedly recognized by Chambers, Best Lawyers, Super Lawyers, and Lawdragon. Links: https://www.gerzhoylaw.com/contact https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilary-gerzhoy/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jason Levin, business development coach and author of Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping in Touch. The conversation explores the critical role of follow-up in building a sustainable legal practice. Jason outlines how many law firm partners approach client development with a short-term mindset, expecting results from one-time efforts like publishing an article or attending a conference. Instead, he advocates for an ongoing process rooted in understanding decision-makers, asking insightful questions, and maintaining authentic, relationship-based outreach. Jason shares practical tactics partners can implement to stay top of mind with clients and internal referral sources. He introduces the concept of a "30-point system" to gamify outreach efforts and emphasizes the power of micro-habits—small, consistent actions like checking in with colleagues or sharing relevant content. From CRM tracking to gratitude-based follow-ups, Jason’s methods are grounded in both social science and professional success stories. Listeners walk away with clear action steps to create structured follow-up systems, improve internal collaboration, and build deeper connections that lead to more business. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/PPpp5reirqU ---------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Jason Levin believes in the power of authentic relationships to transform careers. Based in Washington, D.C., he is the founder of Ready, Set, Launch, LLC® where Levin is an in-demand career and business development coach, speaker and trainer. He has broad career experience in brand management at Unilever, consulting at Accenture and law firm branding sales at Vault.com. Levin has been helping his clients land jobs, get promotions, transition into retirement and build professional services practices since 2011. He has had a lifelong interest in keeping in touch, which is why he wrote the book, Relationships to Infinity. Links: https://readysetlaunch.net/meet-jason-levin/ Buy Jason’s Book ‘Relationships to Infinity’ https://readysetlaunch.net/relationships-to-infinity/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this milestone 250th episode, Scott Love welcomes back Professor Heidi Brown for a candid conversation on the theme of reinvention. Heidi shares her personal journey of navigating multiple career shifts—from practicing attorney to academic and author—and how those transitions required introspection, courage, and authenticity. Drawing from her experiences as an introvert in extrovert-dominated spaces, Heidi explains how embracing her true self became the catalyst for her success as a rainmaker and thought leader.The episode covers practical advice for professionals undergoing change, including how to audit past experiences to identify transferable skills, reframe imposter syndrome, and harness personal energy through self-awareness tools like journaling and character strength assessments. Heidi also introduces her newest book, The Map I Draw, a travel memoir that explores personal growth through adventure. The discussion ends with actionable steps for those seeking to reinvent themselves: reflect, research, and apply a methodical, bite-sized approach to change. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/UasBk8K2Kok ---------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Professor Heidi K. Brown is Associate Dean for Upper Level Writing at New York Law School. A prolific scholar and author on the art and science of legal writing, she has published four books on predictive and persuasive legal writing and federal litigation, as well as numerous scholarly articles for law journals. She has written three books about well-being and thriving in the legal profession: The Introverted Lawyer: A Seven-Step Journey Toward Authentically Empowered Advocacy, Untangling Fear in Lawyering: A Four-Step Journey Toward Powerful Advocacy, and The Flourishing Lawyer: A Multi-Dimensional Approach to Performance and Well-Being. Inspired by her own experience untangling fear of public speaking during her litigation career, she is passionate about helping law students and lawyers find their authentic lawyer voices and overcome anxiety about Socratic legal discourse and performance-based lawyering tasks. Professor Brown is a frequent public speaker on the national and international stage on topics of well-being and healthy performance. Links: Amazon link to The Map I Draw: The Map I Draw: A Memoir of Travel as a Passport to Self: Brown, Heidi K.: 9798992980707: Amazon.com: Books www.heidikristinbrown.com www.theflourishinglawyer.org www.instagram.com/introvertedlawyer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theintrovertedlawyerbook/ New York Law School: Heidi K. Brown - New York Law School Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 249 of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back productivity strategist and international speaker Sarah Tetlow to discuss the power of effective delegation for rainmakers. Sarah introduces her TORQUE model—Trust, Organized, Repetition, Quality, Understanding, and Eliminate control—as a strategic framework for lawyers and professionals looking to delegate more effectively and free up time for high-value rainmaking activities. She emphasizes that mutual trust and respect between delegator and delegate are foundational, and that anticipating workflow and planning ahead—even with just 15–30 minutes daily—can unlock time and resources for better outcomes. Through practical advice and relatable anecdotes, Sarah shows how thoughtful delegation leads to improved team performance and personal productivity. Sarah also highlights the psychological roadblocks to delegation—especially perfectionism and control—and shares actionable insights for overcoming them. She encourages professionals to invest in their team, create repeatable processes, and embrace the reality that 80% of someone else’s effort, if done consistently, can exceed the output of going it alone. The episode concludes with Sarah offering a free delegation toolkit on her site, helping listeners take immediate action to implement TORQUE in their own practices. Visit: https://therainmakingpodcast.com/ YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZFL7TX2NAjE ---------------------------------------- 🎧 Enjoying this episode? Take your recruiting game to the next level with The Scott Love Recruiting System — on-demand video training for recruiters who want real-world strategies that actually work.👉 Get full access at: https://bit.ly/45y7qD1 ---------------------------------------- This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link:https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- Sarah is a seasoned productivity strategist, consultant, and renowned international speaker specializing in helping attorneys and legal professionals. With a wealth of experience, a keen organizational acumen, and a strategic mindset, she empowers attorneys and law firms to enhance their profitability and operational efficiency. Additionally, Sarah is dedicated to helping her clients reclaim lost time and revenue by controlling distractions, identifying and focusing on priorities, and developing effective systems and processes. Sarah is also the creator of the ARTT® Email Productivity system and course. The ARTT® course has helped hundreds of professionals gain control of their email, mitigate using email as a distraction, effectively track important communications, and reduce stress and anxiety. It helps email users understand their human habits connected to the technology to effectively organize their inbox. ARTT® Graduates have reported an increase in responsiveness and revenue. The ARTT® course is available at organizemyinbox.com and Sarah is also available to lead private ARTT® system trainings. Sarah's unwavering commitment to focused work, combined with her distinctive and empathetic coaching approach, fosters a collaborative partnership with her clients that inspires profound learning and transformative behavioral changes. Links: https://www.firm-focus.com/about-us https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-tetlow/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices