The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy

<p>Want to grow your practice through public speaking? Wonder why it’s a strong marketing tool for therapists or how to expand your impact? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Dan Wendler about moving from book writing to keynotes at Google and Harvard, avoiding DIY marketing mistakes, building referral networks, and starting your speaking journey.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/getting-top-keynotes-from-google-and-harvard-with-dr-dan-wendler-pop-1228/">How to Get Top Keynotes from Google and Harvard with Dr. Dan Wendler | POP 1228</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Is a toxic relationship making you sick? What are the hidden costs of relational trauma on the body? How does nervous system dysregulation affect health? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Lissa Rankin about mindfulness, Internal Family Systems, and how relational healing can support physical and emotional recovery.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-the-intersection-of-internal-family-systems-and-dysregulation-of-trauma-in-the-body-with-dr-lissa-rankin-md-pop-1227/">Mindfulness: Breaking Trauma Bonds & Healing from Within with Dr. Lissa Rankin, MD | POP 1227</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What resilience lessons can you learn from a six-time Ironman champion? How can mindfulness quiet negative self-talk in high-pressure moments? Can you train yourself to analyze instead of judge? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Mark Allen about mindset shifts, mental endurance, and redefining success after setbacks.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/hpm-six-time-ironman-champion-mark-allen-on-the-psychology-of-endurance-pop-1226/">HPM: Six-Time Ironman Champion Mark Allen on The Psychology of Endurance | POP 1226</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Want to attract more therapy clients? What makes SEO truly effective for therapists? How can you turn your practice from invisible to invincible online? </p> <p>Tom O’Malley and Nicole Arzt discuss timeless SEO best practices, balancing keywords with authentic copy, and creating content that connects you with your ideal clients.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/sessionsites-podcast-takeover-therapist-seo-demystified-pop-1225/">SessionSites Podcast Takeover – Therapist SEO, Demystified | POP 1225</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Learn how to transform your therapy website into a conversion powerhouse. Tom O’Malley shares 5 simple strategies—clear CTAs, reduced anxiety, strong headlines, simplified navigation, and trust signals—to help visitors confidently take the next step toward becoming clients.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/sessionsites-podcast-takeover-from-click-to-client-optimizing-your-website-for-conversions-pop-1224/">SessionSites Podcast Takeover – From Click to Client: Optimizing Your Website for Conversions | POP 1224</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Want to boost your therapy practice’s impact online? Discover how therapists can use the StoryBrand framework to clarify messaging, attract clients, and explain their services effectively. </p> <p>Tom O’Malley and Jennifer Orechwa share actionable tips for structuring websites and marketing strategies that resonate and convert.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/sessionsites-podcast-takeover-words-that-work-storybrand-framework-in-therapy-marketing-pop-1223/">SessionSites Podcast Takeover – Words that Work: StoryBrand Framework in Therapy Marketing | POP 1223</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What do therapists need to know about how emotions shape reality? Neuroscientist Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett joins Joe Sanok to explore how our brains construct emotions, why “objective reality” is a human consensus, and how therapists can translate complex science into practical, personalized insights for clients.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-the-neuroscience-of-reality-how-emotions-shape-what-we-see-with-dr-lisa-barrett-pop-1222/">Productivity: The Neuroscience of Reality: How Emotions Shape What We See with Dr. Lisa Barrett | POP 1222</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What are common misconceptions about Buddhism and meditation? How does mindfulness help us face emotions without getting lost? Why is vulnerability key to transformation? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Susan Piver about meditation as liberation from suffering, embracing vulnerability, and finding freedom through awareness and self-compassion.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-susan-piver-on-the-spiritual-side-of-meditation-and-ending-suffering-pop-1221/">Mindfulness: Why You Don’t Have to Be Calm to Meditate with Susan Piver | POP 1221</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How do setbacks build resilience? Can failure become a stepping stone to success? What can therapists learn from ultrarunner Hillary Allen’s journey of recovery and mindset shifts? Joe Sanok talks with Hillary about overcoming a 150-foot fall, redefining self-worth, and embracing visualization, gratitude, and personal growth after trauma.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/high-performance-mindset-when-the-body-breaks-how-do-we-repair-the-mind-with-hillary-allen-pop-1220/">High Performance Mindset: When the Body Breaks, How Do We Repair the Mind? With Hillary Allen | POP 1220</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Why is embracing contentment more powerful than chasing perfection? Can time management be compassionate in a hustle-driven world? How can redefining productivity transform daily life? Joe Sanok talks with Kendra Adachi about “The Lazy Genius Way,” breaking free from optimization culture, and finding success by honoring your humanity and seasons of life.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-the-future-of-time-management-with-new-york-times-bestselling-author-kendra-adachi-pop-1219/">Productivity: The Future of Time Management with New York Times bestselling author Kendra Adachi | POP 1219</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Can understanding your nervous system transform trauma healing and relationships? Joe Sanok talks with Sarah Baldwin, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, about polyvagal theory, attachment, and nervous system regulation. Learn to move from freeze to flow, reconnect with your adult self, and foster emotional balance in your healing journey.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-regulating-our-nervous-system-to-have-better-relationships-with-sarah-baldwin-pop-1218/">How Does Nervous System Regulation Heal Our Relationships? With Sarah Baldwin | POP 1218</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What’s the secret to high performance without burnout? Joe Sanok talks with mental toughness expert Dr. Jason Selk about training your brain for resilience, relishing success, and balancing achievement with joy. Learn practical tools for mental workouts, prioritization, and cultivating lasting fulfillment inside and outside the office.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/the-psychologist-behind-the-2011-world-series-win-dr-jason-selk-pop-1217/">The Psychologist Behind the 2011 World Series Win – Dr. Jason Selk | POP 1217</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Which neuroscience strategies best boost brain health to achieve your dreams? How can you move from brain fog to clarity? What’s the hidden power of your thoughts? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Sabina Brennan about brain optimization, attention vs. manifesting, and practical steps for improving mental clarity, productivity, and well-being.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-the-future-of-brain-health-with-sabina-brennan-pop-1216/">Productivity: The Future of Brain Health with Dr. Sabina Brennan | POP 1216</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How can self-dialogue transform addiction recovery? How does understanding the story beneath addictive behaviors foster compassion and lasting change? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Britt Frank, LSCSW, SEP about rethinking addiction treatment, using parts-work, and aligning the mind to support true healing.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-the-future-of-addiction-treatment-with-britt-frank-lscsw-sep-pop-1215/">Mindfulness: The Future of Addiction Treatment with Britt Frank, LSCSW, SEP | POP 1215</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Which strategies help you reach peak performance? Why shift from obsession to stamina, and can this change transform success into something sustainable? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Todd Herman - Kobe Bryant’s performance coach - about stamina, purpose-driven success, and building lasting momentum in life and business.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/hpm-peak-performance-with-kobe-bryants-performance-coach-todd-herman-pop-1214/">HPM: Peak Performance with Kobe Bryant’s Performance Coach Todd Herman | POP 1214</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Are you truly listening to what matters most? Joe Sanok talks with Greg McKeown, bestselling author of Essentialism and Effortless, about overcoming society’s crisis of listening, using a 100-year vision to focus on what truly matters, and mastering the art of deep, empathetic listening in life and practice.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-the-future-of-listening-with-greg-mckeown-pop-1213/">Productivity: The Future of Listening with Greg McKeown | POP 1213</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What role does polyvagal theory play in therapy? How can it help us understand the mind-body connection and transform trauma recovery? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Arielle Schwartz about the vagus nerve, nervous system regulation, and practical exercises for healing PTSD and complex trauma through applied polyvagal theory.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-trauma-and-polyvagal-theory-with-dr-arielle-schwartz-pop-1212/">Mindfulness: How to Use Polyvagal Theory to Treat Trauma with Dr. Arielle Schwartz | POP 1212</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How can understanding attachment trauma improve relationships? What tools support thriving in non-monogamous partnerships? How can people navigate non-monogamy without causing harm? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Jessica Fern about Polysecure, emotional safety, secure attachments, and the HEARTS framework for healthy open relationships.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/polysecure-attachment-trauma-and-nonmonogamy-with-jessica-fern-pop-1211/">Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and NonMonogamy with Jessica Fern | POP 1211</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What tools can help you build resilience in high-stress professions? How can you use a “resilience shield” to thrive under pressure? What daily strategies best protect mental health? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Dan Pronk, former Special Forces doctor and resilience expert, about stress management, mental toughness, and habits for lasting resilience.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-resilience-research-with-retired-special-operations-doctor-dan-pronk-pop-1210/">Productivity: Resilience Research with Retired Special Operations Doctor Dan Pronk | POP 1210</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How can therapists balance evidence-based practices with unique client needs? What role will technology and personalization play in future-proofing therapy? What do we need to know about the process of change for better outcomes? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Steven C. Hayes, creator of ACT, about tailoring therapy and advancing mental healthcare.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-top-5-most-cited-clinical-psychologist-in-the-world-dr-steven-c-hayes-pop-1209/">Mindfulness: Top 5 Most Cited Clinical Psychologist in the World Dr. Steven C. Hayes | POP 1209</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How can we fix America’s healthcare system to focus on true healing? Why must medicine shift from numbers to relationships, and how can we redefine wellness and success in care? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Alan Roth—TIME-featured physician and healthcare reform advocate—on transforming medicine into patient-centered, preventive care.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/time-magazine-named-dr-alan-roth-a-guardian-of-healthcare-and-he-thinks-we-need-a-return-to-healing-pop-1208/">TIME Magazine Named Dr. Alan Roth a Guardian of Healthcare | POP 1208</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How do you unlock your creative potential at work? Why is creativity essential for innovative problem-solving in any profession? </p> <p>Joe Sanok speaks with bestselling author Todd Henry about daily practices to fuel creativity, overcome mental blocks, and thrive as a problem-solver in fast-paced environments.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-are-you-feeding-your-brain-enough-creativity-with-todd-henry-pop-1207/">Productivity: Are You Feeding Your Brain Enough Creativity? With Todd Henry | POP 1207</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>Why is empowering clients the greatest shift in trauma therapy? What role does neuroscience play in rewiring the brain for healing? Why is client agency crucial for lasting recovery? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with trauma expert Dr. Frank Anderson on redefining therapy, integrating neuroscience, and guiding clients toward self-directed healing.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/mindfulness-what-we-get-wrong-with-trauma-and-the-nervous-system-with-dr-frank-anderson-pop-1206/">Mindfulness: What We Get Wrong with Trauma and the Nervous System with Dr. Frank Anderson | POP 1206</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>How can we talk openly about death and dying? What role do forgiveness and connection play in end-of-life care? How can facing mortality transform fear into deeper meaning? </p> <p>Joe Sanok speaks with palliative care pioneer Dr. Ira Byock about shifting cultural views on dying, psychedelics in care, and the four things that matter most.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/the-future-of-dying-with-dr-ira-byock-pop-1205/">The Future of Dying with Dr. Ira Byock | POP 1205</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>

<p>What’s the science behind altruism - and why can good intentions sometimes cause harm? How can therapists “learn to learn” and better support clients? </p> <p>Joe Sanok talks with Dr. Barbara Oakley about retrieval practice, pathological altruism, empathy vs. sympathy, and strategies to balance compassion with effectiveness in counseling.</p> <p>The post <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com/productivity-learning-how-to-learn-with-dr-barbara-oakley-pop-1204/">Productivity: Learning How to Learn with Dr. Barbara Oakley | POP 1204</a> appeared first on <a href="https://practiceofthepractice.com">How to Start, Grow, and Scale a Private Practice | Practice of the Practice</a>.</p>