The Jono Fisher Podcast

An intimate conversation with psychologist and bestselling author Steve Biddulph on friendship, presence and what it means to be fully human. What does it take to build deep, sustaining friendships in adulthood - and why do we so often struggle to ask for the connection we need? In this episode, Steve Biddulph shares reflections from decades of clinical work and lived experience, exploring how our brains shape relationships, why "hurry is the enemy of love," and how slowing down opens the door to real presence. He introduces his simple four-storey model of body, emotions, mind and spirit, offering a grounded way to understand wellbeing and human connection. Together, we explore men's loneliness, the courage required to ask for help, the role of receptivity in friendship and how staying connected matters even more in an age shaped by cultural challenges and AI. If you've ever felt isolated, rushed, or quietly longing for deeper connection, this episode offers warmth, wisdom and a gentle reminder that we truly need one another. Steve is the author of Raising Boys, Raising Girls and Fully Human. You can find out more about his work at www.stevebiddulph.com.

An intimate conversation with psychologist Dr Emily Musgrove on belonging, resilience and the power of human connection. What does it mean to truly belong - to ourselves, to one another and to the work we do? In this episode, Dr Emily Musgrove, a psychologist and author, helps us explore the science and soul of connection. She shares insights from her research and practice on how belonging shapes our nervous system, fuels creativity, strengthens resilience and transforms the way we lead. Emily reminds us that connection isn't a soft skill - it's the foundation of wellbeing, courage and meaningful leadership. If you've ever felt unseen, disconnected, or curious about what helps people and teams thrive, this episode offers both insight and gentle encouragement. Emily's new book is entitled Unstuck - and you can find out more about her work at www.dremilymusgrove.com.

An intimate conversation with poet Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer on grief, love and the art of saying yes to life as it is. What does it mean to stay open to life when the heart has broken? In this conversation with poet Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer, we step into the sacred terrain of grief, love, paradox and poetry. This is not a conversation of tidy answers. It is tender, raw and luminous. Rosemerry reminds us that joy and sorrow are companions, that poetry and friendship can help us carry what feels unbearable. If you are grieving, or if you are living with a broken heart, this episode is a kind of medicine. Rosemerry's new book is entitled The Unfolding - and you can find out more about her work at wordwoman.com.

Michelle C. Johnson is a clinical social worker, activist, yoga teacher and author of 'Finding Refuge: Heart Work for Healing Collective Grief' and 'We Heal Together: Rituals and Practices for Building Community and Connection'. Michelle has a Masters degree from the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill - and has offered training for the likes of Duke University, Google, This American Life, Auburn Seminary, Lululemon, and many others. In this conversation, Michelle shares: . Stories and lessons from her honeybees . The role of the heart in healing and finding integrity . The powerful link between grief and aliveness . How grief can stagnate in our bodies and cause illness in our bodies and culture . The role of healthy grieving in addressing our collective wounds . How spiritual practices can help us hold our brokenheartedness and wholeness at the same time. Michelle brings a beautiful perspective on the role of grieving - grounded in community, embodiment and ritual. All dedicated to our personal and collective wellbeing. With all my heart, thank you for being here. Love, Jono

Today's conversation is with Josh Schrei. Josh is a renowned student of mythology - and host of The Emerald Podcast (a podcast mind you that i'd highly recommend you check out). In this episode Josh shares personal and mythical stories to remind us of the hidden treasures to be found in times of sorrow - Articulating grief as part of the cycle of shedding, releasing, and returning to what he calls the "meadows of joy". As you will soon experience in this conversation, Josh brings a profound understanding of mythology - and his ability to articulate its significance, makes him a rare voice in our world. During this episode Josh shares: • Personal stories of wildfires, grief and his young sons • The pervasiveness of grief underneath the surface of all our lives • Why grief is a vital part of the life cycle - and intimately connected with joy • How mythology has always served as a timeless reservoir of wisdom, capturing the essence of our collective experiences. With all my heart, thank you for being here. Love, Jono

Today's conversation is with Shauna Janz. Shauna offers a beautiful invitation into what she calls the "larger currents of resiliency" - which includes the wisdom of our bodies, our hearts, our ancestors, the natural world, ritual healing, imagination and altered states of consciousness. As you will experience, Shauna brings a very tender, embodied and respectful approach to working with grief. In this episode, Shauna explores: • The importance of building strong personal "river banks" to allow the rivers of unmetabolized grief to flow into the larger oceans of life, and not flood or overwhelm our lives • How the skills of grieving has brought her closer to her "birthright of joy" and her signature as a "lover of life" • What to do when we feel like we are going to get lost if we allow our grief to come forward • The impact of our severance from the "deeper wells of knowing" - including how we relate to our bodies, ancestors, ritual etc.

I'm honored to be in conversation with the distinguished business professor George Kohlrieser - who is one of the world leaders incorporating grief into Executive Education. In this enlightening conversation, we explore: • How unresolved grief can make leaders cold hearted, emotionally detached and unable to bond with people • Why so many leaders fail to recognise they carry grief • The obstacles and opportunities for leaders to work through grief • The "creative force" that is unleashed when grief is metabolized

For me, this is one of the most important conversations I've ever published. In today's episode, Rosemary Wanganeen shares her personal story of being part of the Stolen Generation, reconnecting with her ancestry, going through a deep grieving process - and ultimately forgiving the atrocities committed on her people. Rosemary Wanganeen is a proud South Australian Aboriginal woman, Kaurna Elder, and founder of the Healing Centre for Griefology. Rosemary believes that grieving and wellbeing are intimately related - and that the health of Australia's future rests in our ability to integrate the losses we have in our nation's history. In this episode, Rosemary explores: • Why indigenous Australians maintained regular grieving ceremonies• The importance of not having the body accumulate "grief energy" • The impact of Plato calling grief "illogical" and a "weakness" • The invitation grief offers for forgiveness and re-kindling spirituality • Whether Australia will ever have a dedicated "Day of Grieving" I believe that nothing will heal the soul of Australia more than allowing the pain of our history to enter into our hearts. By finding ways to integrate this grief, we will free up the energy and creativity for a more compassionate future. I urge you to listen to Rosemary and the messages she has received from her ancestors. It means so much to have you here today. Love, Jono

Like many of you, sorrow has entered my life in a myriad of ways - and it wasn't until I read Francis Weller's book, The Wild Edge of Sorrow, that I began a soulful relationship with grief. Francis Weller is a psychotherapist, author and wise elder who extends an invitation for us to remember what it means to be a Human Being. During this rich conversation, Francis offers beautiful perspectives on sorrow, shame, vitality, beauty making, depression and the "Five gates of grief". May we all undertake an "apprenticeship with sorrow" and come closer to living and loving more fully. Love, Jono

This episode is an insight into Jono's grief work, and how he arrived here. His dance partner in this conversation is his friend (and previous therapist) Kate-Marie Mutsaers. Kate-Marie has over 25 years experience as a community facilitator, somatic therapist, body worker and movement facilitator - walking alongside people in private practice, prisons, disaster settings and dance floors across locations as varied as Central Australia, the Middle East, India, Papua New Guinea and now France where she currently resides. But Jono didn't ask Kate-Marie to join him because of her bio. He asked Kate-Marie because of her groundedness, her heart and integrity. She's a beautiful person to talk with, and she's been an incredible support for Jono in his life. Jono hopes this conversation gives you a glimpse into where he's at - and why he's so drawn to offering grief work during these challenging times. Jono also hopes you also enjoy getting to know Kate-Marie and her stunning presence. Whatever the shape of your grief, it's never too late to meet it with gentleness and care. This isn't about wallowing, but remembering how to restore aliveness to our world. Thank you for being part of this caring community. Love, Jono

This trailer offers Jono's prayer for this podcast - while introducing grief as a gateway into depth and aliveness. This season will explore intimate conversations about grief with somatic practitioners and leaders in business, indigenous wisdom and mythology.

Many of us have been raised to think that men have to act in a certain way. You know the story - be tough, invulnerable, in control, unemotional etc. This has led to an epidemic of loneliness, depression, dysfunction and suicide. This podcast explores some of my experiences and hopefully catalyses a new way of thinking about modern masculinity.

Emiliana Simon-Thomas Phd is the Science Director at the Greater Good Science Centre at the University of California Berkeley. She is one of the leading authorities uncovering the deep roots of human goodness and she specialises in the biological underpinnings of prosocial states like compassion, kindness and empathy and how they benefit well-being and psychosocial functioning. Her programs are hugely popular and offered in online formats for over 400,000 students. During this wide ranging conversation, Emiliana shares how modern science all points to human beings being wired for compassion and connection. At one point, Emiliana said "Biologically, we're built to dedicate ourselves to each other." Emiliana also shares how the "achievement model of success" is letting so many people down and the perils of misunderstanding the word "happiness". Instead, Emiliana speaks of the importance of experiencing our rich and diverse emotions like anger and sadness while also learning how to foster more resilience, connection and meaning.

In this episode, I share some recent experiences of sadness and death. From these experiences, three valuable insights have emerged for me. My hope is that these insights may lead you to a deeper appreciation for life.

Danielle LaPorte is an invited member of Oprah's Super Soul 100, a group who, in Oprah Winfrey's words, "is uniquely connecting the world together with a spiritual energy that matters." She is author of White Hot Truth: Clarity for Keeping It Real on Your Spiritual Path—from One Seeker to Another, The Fire Starter Sessions and The Desire Map: A Guide To Creating Goals With Soul—the book that has been translated into eight languages, evolved into a yearly day planner system, a top 10 iTunes app, and an international workshop program with licensed facilitators in 15 countries. Her website has been named one of the "Top 100 Websites for Women" by Forbes. During this very nourishing conversation we explore topics such as discipline as a path to liberation, how the "lie of inadequacy" drives so many poor decisions and how softness and tenderness could be one of the signs of genuine spiritual maturity.

Marc Lesser co-founded the Search Inside Yourself Leadership Institute (SIYLI) with Google engineer and author of the New York Times bestseller, Chade-Meng Tan. He is the CEO of SIYLI taking Google's #1 training program to thousands of senior executives, entrepreneurs and professionals around the world. Previously, Marc founded a multi-million dollar publishing company, managed a Zen monastery for 10 years and has written three books including ZBA: Zen of Business Administration. He now sits on the SIYLI board with the likes of Arianna Huffington and the VP of Google's People Development, Karen May. During this very personal conversation, Marc shares his fascinating story from childhood to living in a Zen centre, founding a multi-million dollar publishing company and then teaming up with a Google engineer to create the hugely successful Search Inside Yourself Program. Moved by the pain of loss and the love of psychology and literature, Marc shares what what influenced his path to Zen, entrepreneurship and being part of a vision to create a more peaceful world.

Welcome to this "Mini-Podcast" - short reflections (around 5-10 mins long) with ideas, tools and resources to help you live a more mindful, brave and kind life. In this episode, I reflect on the power of staying focused on small things. In a world that glorifies the large and the flashy, it can be hard to see the value in the everyday actions. However, by learning how to calm our minds and be of service in this moment, we begin to create a meaningful living. Keep it simple. Focus on the small. This way you will take care of your soul, your relationships, and everything.

Elena Brower is one of the leading yoga teachers in the world having risen to acclaim on the New York yoga scene. She is also a mum and artist who is devoted to helping people live more meaningful and loving lives. Elena is a graduate from Cornell University and has studied with several master yoga teachers for over a decade. She is the author of "Art of Attention: A Yoga Practice Workbook for Movement as Meditation" that guides us into an exploration of presence, elegance and deeper life purpose. During this conversation, Elena shares how for a long time, she wasn't proud of who she was. In fact she felt a discrepancy between her public and private life that led her to carry around the weight of shame. It was her journey to sobriety and telling the truth that allowed her life to more fully open up. We speak about the power of integrity and telling the truth and how shame can impact creativity, immunity and parenting. Elena also shares her daily rituals that she utilises in her daily life and during her parenting.

In this episode I share the practice of "loving kindness". This practice is thousands of years old and more recently scientists are discovering its observable impact on emotional, physical and social wellbeing. By pairing breath with emotion and wishes we begin to generate more warmth for ourselves that naturally radiates out to others. I'd suggest experimenting with this practice for 5 minutes a day - and may it be of benefit to you and those around you. Welcome to this "Mini-Podcast" - short reflections (around 5-10 mins long) with ideas, tools and resources to help you live a more mindful, brave and kind life.

Marianne Williamson has written four #1 New York Times Bestsellers and her teachings have influenced millions around the world. Newsweek magazine named Marianne as one of the "50 most influential baby boomers" and she has been a popular speaker at Google and regularly appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live and Good Morning America. In 2014, Marianne ran for US Congress in an attempt to start a bold new conversation in politics. She is the founder of Project Angel Food that serves over 1,000 meals per day for people suffering with AIDS in Los Angeles. Marianne co-founded the Peace Alliance and sits on the board of RESULTS that works to end hunger and poverty throughout the world.

**Big Announcement** Danielle LaPorte is coming to Australia! Join the Priority List at WakeUpProject.com In this episode, Wake Up's Jono Fisher shares an experience that reminded him of our basic goodness and our connection with one another. He also shares a Kindness Card story that touched him. Welcome to this "Mini-Podcast" - short reflections (around 5-10 mins long) with ideas, tools and resources to help you live a more mindful, brave and kind life.

Lyn White is is one of Australia's most courageous leaders who believes in the power of our everyday choices to create a kinder world. She is the Campaign Director for Animals Australia - Australia's leading animal protection organisation. Their investigations and campaigns are recognised the world over for protecting the most vulnerable and abused animals in our society. In this inspiring talk given at the 2015 Mindful Leadership Forum in Sydney, Lyn shares her very personal journey and her belief that human beings have a profound goodness within them, with the potential to fulfil a new kind of ethical standard. A rally cry for each of us to dedicate ourselves to creating a more kind and compassionate world. Lyn White was a South Australian police investigator for 20 years before becoming the Campaign Director for Animals Australia. Lyn's work has been profiled extensively in major Australian media. She is an Australian of the Year Finalist and in 2014 was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia.

Golbie Kamarei founded the pioneering BlackRock meditation program. BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager with $4.7 trillion in assets under management and over 12,000 employees. During this conversation, Golbie shares her personal journey beginning with attending meditation retreats through to bringing these learnings into her work environment. She began with a weekly mindfulness class in the New York City office and over the next two years more than 1,500 employees in over 30 cities and 17 countries became part of her program. But something more began happening, "People began showing up with humanity and compassion - friendships were being created that were beyond normal work colleague relationships." Golbie Kamarei was the former Global Program Manager at BlackRock asset management. She is now a Corporate Wellbeing and Performance Consultant leading training for multinational firms including the U.S. House of Representatives. In 2015, Golbie was recognised as a Corporate Culture Champion by Berkeley University's Greater Good Science Centre.

What is it that you love most about your closest friend? How does this friend treat you when things aren't going as planned? What words do they use to support you? Can you imagine if you had this kind of relationship with yourself? In this episode, Jono Fisher shares how kindness towards yourself can transform how you live, love and show up in the world. It's an ongoing practice, but it's the one that makes all the difference. Welcome to this "Mini-Podcast" - short reflections (around 5-10 mins long) with ideas, tools and resources to help you live a more mindful, brave and kind life.

Rich Fernandez is one of the pioneers bringing mindfulness into some of the world's biggest companies such as Facebook, SalesForce, LinkedIn, Ford and Starbucks. In this conversation, Rich shares his very personal journey as a young boy, through to scaling mindfulness at Google, hanging out with Eckhart Tolle and the moment he took a leap from his dream job to move from a "career to a calling". The clarity of his communication and integrity will help you see the huge potential work cultures have by embracing the power of mindfulness for wellbeing, innovation and engagement. Rich Fernandez is the co-founder of Wisdom Labs. He was the head of executive education at Google and combines nearly two decades working at organizations such as Google, eBay, and J.P. Morgan Chase with his deep expertise in cognitive psychology, human performance science and organizational systems to deliver transformational people development solutions in business settings. Rich now focuses on the science of mindful wellbeing, resilience and purpose driven performance within companies such as Facebook, Salesforce, LinkedIn, Deloitte and Starbucks.

What's one of the most profound experiences a human being can have? Jono Fisher recently met Dr. Dan Siegel at one of the Wake Up events and he shared what he is believes is one of the most profound experiences a human being can have. And it has nothing to do with big bank balances or fancy goods :-) Welcome to the first "Mini-Podcast" - these are short reflections (around 5 -10 mins long) with ideas, tools and resources to help you live a more mindful, brave and kind life.

Seane Corn is one of the most inspirational people around. In this conversation she explores deep and sometimes difficult topics with tremendous honesty, warmth and humour. She shared about her upbringing, how she found yoga and how this relates to spirituality, activism and personal transformation. As one of the most sought-after yoga teachers in the world, Seane views yoga as a path to whole-hearted, engaged and fearless living. Her eloquent and down-to-earth nature will help you find the courage and inspiration even in the most difficult and painful circumstances. Seane Corn is one of the world's most influential yoga instructors. She has been featured on the Oprah Winfrey Network, the Today Show and been on the front cover of over 25 magazines. She is the co-founder of Off The Mat, Into the World®, a training organisation that uses the power of yoga to ignite grass roots social change and has raised over $4 million for social causes. She is the "National Yoga Ambassador" for YouthAIDS and was honored with the "Conscious Humanitarian" award in 2005. Her many award winning DVD's include The Yoga of Awakening and Detox Flow Yoga.

Rob Bell shakes up how we see religion and spirituality. Rather than focusing on dogma or beliefs, Rob prefers the world of mystery, art, wonder and living in the moment. He offers a refreshing view of how to cultivate a spiritual life that focuses on love, grief, loss, taking care of ourselves and embracing all the messy parts of being human. Rob said, "Often times when I meet atheists and we talk about the god they don't believe in, we quickly discover that I don't believe in that god, either." Rob Bell is a New York Times bestselling author, international teacher and highly sought after public speaker. TIME magazine named Rob Bell one of the 100 most influential people in the world. In 2015, Oprah invited Rob on her " Life You Want Tour " with Elizabeth Gilbert, Mark Nepo and Deepak Chopra. Along with Brene Brown, Rob is a founding member of the " The Compassion Collective " raising over $1 million for the European refugees crisis.

Michael Cheika believes a great team is made up of different types of characters - lovers, fighters, jokers, hard men, quiet types and bookworms. Rather than trying to maintain a certain image based on the media, Michael shares how important it is to be true to yourself and what you believe. This includes knowing when to be gentle, tough and never taking yourself too seriously. Michael Cheika is the coach of the Australian Rugby team. He is also the coach of the New South Wales Waratahs, a husband and father of four children. He's played rugby, has ran a highly successful fashion business and is the only coach to have won the major rugby competitions in both the southern and northern hemispheres.

Daniel Petre sees a 'good life' as being determined by generosity, caring for one another and acknowledging our shared frailty as humans. Rather than being exclusively focused on wealth or achievement, he reminds us of the need to value our emotional worlds, our families and cultivating what matters most to us. He has wonderful insights and stories on working shorter hours, the value of spending time with children and how helpful it can be to seek out professional help when needed. Daniel is a genuine, smart and warmhearted man - and one of the bright lights in the Australian business community. Daniel Petre is one of Australia's most successful businesspeople and has been at the forefront of the Australian technology industry for 20 years. He's a philanthropist, author and father of 3 daughters. He was former Head of Microsoft in Australia and was the first Australian Vice President of Microsoft international. Daniel was the founding Chairman of Ecorp, was four years on the PBL Board and brought the likes of Ebay and NineMsn to Australia. In 2005, he earned the title of Officer in the Order of Australia (AO) for his contributions to the country's business world.

Michael Traill is passionate about applying business skills to care for the lives of people in need. During this conversation, Michael shares his thoughts on the importance of service, social conscience and his spiritual life. We hear about his experience doing rites of passages with his sons, taking family sabbaticals and how he naturally gravitates to people who are open, emotionally available and vulnerable. Ultimately, Michael reminds us of our pressing need to craft a new narrative. One that appeals to our common humanity - and who we really want to be as a community. Michael Traill was born in the small industrial country town of Morewell in Victoria. He graduated dux of his school, got an MBA from the Harvard Business School and by age 41 was running Macquarie Bank's venture capital arm, overseeing $400 million worth of investments. One morning, in the late stages of a $20 million investment, he found himself not feeling the usual rush of adrenalin and excitement. On this occasion, he was more concerned about a team member in his son's under 11's Aussie rules team. His life direction was changing. It wasn't long before Michael "jumped ship" and was the founding CEO of Social Ventures Australia. For the last 13 years he has dedicated himself to investing in social change.

Tanveer Ahmed believes the nature of masculinity is in great transition - and many men aren't coping well. He shares that men are scoring higher on the markers of 'emotional distress' including suicide, substance abuse, online addiction, violence - and even eating disorders. To help facilitate this "gender transition", he believes men need more opportunities for open conversations and easier access to the skills of emotional intelligence. In a vulnerable moment, Ahmed shared the personal embarrassment of being publicly exposed on ABC's Media Watch for plagiarism. He also shared about the value of second chances, vulnerability and the need for good support networks. Dr. Tanveer Ahmed is the child of Bangladeshi immigrants. He is a psychiatrist, author and media personality who has contributed to the likes of ABC, SBS, the Sydney Morning Herald and Channel 7's Sunrise show. In 2008, the Prime Minister's Committee acknowledged Tanveer as one of a hundred 'future leaders in Australia under the age of 40'. His first book is a migration memoir called The Exotic Rissole.

Graham Long wears two watches. One is his regular watch. The second belonged to his son, James. It stopped at one minute to midnight during the first year of James' death – a reminder to live in the present moment. Graham doesn't care what car he drives, how big his house is or whether you think he's doing a good job. He also believes that people are not problems to be solved, but people to be met. He reminds us to let go of the 'expert mode' and meet people in the ordinary moments of life. This is what he calls 'the invitation into the awesome'. Graham Long is a community leader, accomplished author and CEO and Pastor of the renowned Wayside Chapel in Kings Cross. For over fifty years, Wayside has provided unconditional love, care and support for people on and around the streets. Graham has touched the lives of thousands of Australians and created a community free of judgment and the normal barriers that divide society into 'us' and 'them'. Graham's motto for Wayside is 'Love Over Hate' and he believes that action should come before preaching and community engagement is more important than going to church on Sunday.

David Koch is very clear about what he stands for. He believes being born in Australia is like winning the "embryo lottery" - and how important it is to use our time, talents and money to give back to society. Kochie recognises that life can be challenging, but it can also be simple. He reminds us of the importance of family, being grateful, being kind and not taking ourselves too seriously. He has great stories and insights on the power of looking beyond ourselves to see how we can make a difference to those around us. David Koch, nicknamed 'Kochie', is arguably the best known person on Australian TV. He is a journalist, business owner and financial commentator. He is the co-host of Australia's number one breakfast TV show Sunrise with millions of people waking up with him every morning. He was named the Father of the Year in 2007, is the chairman of Port Adelaide Football Club, the founder of the Koch Centre for Youth - and the Reader's Digest named him one of the 50 most trusted Australian's. David is most proud of his marriage to Libby and his four beautiful children.

At some point in your life, you have to decide whether you're going to live according to what others expect, or what you feel is right. During this conversation, Michael Usher shares how important it is to be yourself and to not be afraid of showing your emotions. He shares the importance of being vulnerable and asking for support when life gets tough. He has practical insights into the importance of family, children and mates - and how many of the people he has interviewed remind him of what really matters in life. Michael Usher is a leading Australian reporter for 60 Minutes. He has covered many of the major stories of our time including September 11, the ebola crises, three olympic games, the war in Iraq and the MH-17 crash. Michael has pioneered many new formats including being the first host of the leader's debate between Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott in 2010. He has three children and calls Sydney home.

By openly sharing his life experiences, Jack Heath gives other people permission to be themselves. He has a passion for removing stigmas and reminds us that by coming back to stillness we can calm our minds and reconnect us to our basic human goodness. Jack shares how rewarding it is to have honest and vulnerable conversations with each other and our children. In the end, Jack believes that real success is all about being genuinely kind and happy. Jack Heath was the senior advisor to both Prime Minister Paul Keating and Kevin Rudd. He was the founder and Global CEO of the Inspire Foundation and today is the CEO of SANE Australia. He has received a number of awards including a Centenary Medal and Ernst & Young's Australian Social Entrepreneur of the Year in 2007. Jack is married to Catherine and has two children Lucy and Jamie.

Nigel Marsh makes a very clear distinction difference between being "successful" and being "admirable". Rather than having all our emphasis on financial measures, Nigel believes we should be celebrating more everyday things like being kind to other people and committing to loving relationships with our partners and children. He also points out that sometimes the best things in life are often when we don't get what we want. Nigel has been a leading CEO, is the co-founder of Earth Hour, the founder of the Sydney Skinny and author of three best selling books - Fat, Forty and Fired; Overworked and Underlaid; and Fit, Fifty and Fired-Up. His TED talk has been viewed nearly 3 million times and remains the most viewed ever talk given outside America. Nigel is a husband and father of four beautiful children.

Cameron Clyne viewed his role as CEO as only a small part of who he is as a whole person. Cameron values people beyond their job titles and always sought to create work environments where people felt cared for, respected and treated with dignity. He see's the great value in men showing physical affection to their kids and how important it is for men to maintain friendships to support each other during difficult times. Cameron also shares the importance of implementing activities like swimming, yoga or walking as tools to help cultivate mindfulness. Cameron is one of Australia's most respected business leaders and a husband and father of two children. He served as CEO of the National Australia bank from 2009 until 2014 - guiding the bank through the most difficult years of the global financial crisis. At 46 years of age, Cameron made the surprise decision to retire to be able to spend more time with his wife and children. At his press conference he said "I would like my marriage to last longer than my time as CEO."