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Rajiv Sethi – Self-Censorship on Campus

PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The conversations that aren’t happening on college campuses4:16 Staying informed about Israel-Palestine9:22 Glenn: Don’t subject me to a loyalty test12:14 Rajiv: High-minded principles alone won’t solve the self-censorship problem18:11 “The Naked Emperor Equilibrium”21:52 The game theoretical aspect of Glenn’s memoir25:35 An homage to Thomas Schelling27:31 Rajiv’s work on police use-of-force, then and now30:36 The predictive value of political betting markets42:44 Robert Solow’s intellectual family tree46:16 The lopsided distribution of elite economists49:08 Rajiv: Big econ departments should take more chances on candidates51:52 The mind-boggling geographical variation in police killings56:09 Why Rajiv doesn’t take pride in other Indian-Americans’ successRecorded January 26, 2024Links and ReadingsNoam Dworman’s TGS appearanceNoam Dworman’s podcast, Live from the TableNorman Finkelstein and Eli Lake on Live from the TableBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine CrisisRashid Khalidi on Live from the TableBenny Morris on Live from the TableTara Henley’s Lean OutIlan Pappé’s book, The Ethnic Cleansing of PalestineGlenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related PhenomenaGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinNorman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomGlenn’s conversation with John MearsheimerJohn Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign PolicyUniversity of Chicago’s 1967 Kalven Committee ReportUniversity of Chicago’s 2014 “Chicago Principles” on freedom of expressionElizabeth Noelle-Neumann’s book, The Spiral of Silence: Public Opinion—Our Second SkinTimothy Kuran’s book, Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference FalsificationThomas Schelling’s book, The Strategy of ConflictRajiv and Brendan O’Flahery’s book, Shadows of Doubt: Stereotypes, Crime, and Pursuit of JusticeGunnar Myrdal’s book, An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern DemocracyRajiv’s Substack, Imperfect InformationRajiv’s Substack post, “Economic Growth and the Growth of Economics: Reflections on Robert Solow”Ralph Ellison’s essay 1970 essay, “What America Would Be Like without Blacks” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 9, 20241h 4m

Noam Dworman – Friendship in a Time of War (Bonus Episode)

PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 Why Noam gave Glenn a bag of books about Israel5:25 Why Glenn felt burned after The Bell Curve8:49 Loyalty among friends during the Gaza War13:15 The blowback from Brown’s ceasefire letter17:18 Talking about Israel across the ideological spectrum19:42 Glenn: Loyalty tests are unreasonable23:16 Trying to understand the human costs of war26:26 Glenn: There is no decent alternative to a two-state solution33:32 “Apartheid,” “genocide,” and other potentially unhelpful terms39:29 Noam: Thank God for President Biden44:13 Why Noam is worried about American attitudes toward Israel49:08 Will the Gaza War end up strengthening Hamas?56:08 The tone-deafness of some supporters of IsraelRecorded January 31, 2023Links and ReadingsNoam’s podcast, Live from the TableThe Glenn Show Live at the Comedy CellarGlenn and John Live at the Comedy CellarCharles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American LifeGlenn’s conversation with Charles MurrayThe Brown University faculty’s ceasefire letterGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinGlenn’s conversation with John MearsheimerGlenn’s most recent conversation with Robert WrightBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine ConflictAaron Maté’s appearance on Noam’s podcast This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 4, 20241h 0m

John McWhorter – Is DEI on Its Way Out?

PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 John: Claudine Gay needed to resign, but her plagiarism wasn’t a mortal sin 6:50 Has DEI taken a hit after the Gay controversy? 13:50 When “DEI” really means “racial preferences” 22:12 The case of Neri Oxman 23:52 John: Bill Ackman looks “absurd” 26:47 Three cheers for John’s dinosaurs 28:22 Is Glenn really a “black conservative”? 31:11 The three dimensions of black conservatism 37:50 Black elites and immigration 42:35 Ibram X. Kendi undeterred 44:48 Roland Fryer is still standing 46:48 Is Amy Wax getting railroaded by Penn?Recorded January 27, 2024Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “We Need a New Word for ‘Plagiarism’”Elon Musk’s DEI airline post on XNeri Oxman’s CVAdolph Reed’s essay, “‘What Are the Drums Saying, Booker?’: The Curious Role of the Black Public Intellectual” (originally published in the Village Voice, April 11, 1995)Wilfred Reilly’s comparative IQ post on XRecording of Amy Wax’s FIRE webinarGlenn’s December 2021 episode with Amy WaxGlenn’s August 2022 episode with Amy WaxCharles Murray’s book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Race, Gender, and ClassGlenn’s conversation with Charles Murray This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 2, 202457 min

David Kaiser – States of the Union

Preorder Glenn's memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/97803938813490:00 The many, many books of David Kaiser3:01 David: Claudine Gay is a symptom, not a cause, of what’s wrong at Harvard6:09 Western Civilization and elitism at Harvard10:03 Meritorious elitism and luxury elitism12:35 Intellectuals in the wild14:28 How James Bryant Conant built the modern Harvard …17:33 … and how it was broken18:52 Glenn’s previous conversation with Omer Bartov24:12 Why David thinks the Gaza War falls short of genocide but maybe not ethnic cleansing25:51 What Claudine Gay could (and maybe should) have said at her congressional hearing27:51 Why David thinks originalists will have a problem rejecting attempts to remove Trump from electoral ballots32:38 David: Mitch McConnell should have impeached Trump when he had the chance36:07 David’s new book, States of the Union41:03 Have state of the union addresses always been as boring as they are now?44:55 Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Reagan, and their legacies57:37 Why Obama didn’t propose a New New Deal after the 2008 financial crisis1:01:01 Biden’s silenceRecorded January 10, 2024Links and ReadingsDavid’s book, Economic Diplomacy and the Origin of the Second World War: Germany, Britain, France, and Eastern Europe, 1930-1939David’s book, Politics and War: European Conflict from Philip II to HitlerDavid’s book, American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of the Vietnam WarDavid’s book, The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. KennedyDavid’s book, Baseball Greatness: Top Players and Teams According to Wins Above Average, 1901-2017David’s book, NFL 1965: The Most Exciting SeasonDavid’s book, A Life in HistoryDavid’s book, States of the Union: A History of the United States through Presidential Addresses, 1789-2023Glenn’s previous conversation with DavidFareed Zakaria on elite universitiesGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovDavid’s blog, History UnfoldingDavid’s blog post about the Fourteenth AmendmentHoward Zinn’s book, A People’s History of the United StatesJohn F. Kennedy’s June 11, 1963 address on segregation This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 26, 20241h 7m

Ilya Shapiro, Robert George & Randall Kennedy – Clarence Thomas: Black American Icon

Preorder Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative wherever you buy your books.If you missed Wednesday’s City Journal and Manhattan Institute-hosted livestream, I’ve got you covered. Today I’m releasing the recording of that livestream as a special bonus episode. This event marked the publication of my City Journal essay “Clarence Thomas and Me,” and I had a stellar line-up alongside me to discuss the essay and the work of Clarence Thomas: Ilya Shapiro of the Manhattan Institute, Robert George of Princeton, and Randall Kennedy of Harvard Law School. 0:00 Introductions2:58 Why Glenn wrote “Clarence Thomas and Me”5:27 Randall: “Justice Thomas trades on his blackness”10:58 Glenn: Clarence Thomas has not “betrayed black people”12:30 Thomas’s engagement with natural law jurisprudence19:29 How would Thomas have come down on Brown v. Board of Education?20:55 The loyalty trap24:20 Randall: Thomas’s originalism may also commit him to sanctioning segregation28:24 Robbie: There are originalist interpretations that support Brown v. Board of Education34:07 Thomas’s race cases36:03 Glenn: Thomas can act as both a principled jurist and as an advocate for the rights of African Americans40:56 Randall: In 100 years, people will regard Shelby County v. Holder as one of the worst decisions in the Court’s history44:36 Maintaining integrity under pressure51:22 What are the differences between Thomas’s, Scalia’s, and Alito’s originalisms?55:30 Will Thomas have broader popularity in the future?1:01:10 Is racial solidarity inconsistent with judicial impartiality?1:03:30 Closing remarksRecorded January 17, 2024Links and ReadingsGlenn’s City Journal essay, “Clarence Thomas and Me”Glenn’s book, One by One from the Inside Out : Essays and Reviews on Race and Responsibility in AmericaMichael McConnell’s article, “The Originalist Case for Brown v. Board of Education”Randy Barnett and Evan Bernick’s book, The Original Meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment: Its Letter and SpiritLon Fuller’s book, The Morality of LawThe documentary on Clarence Thomas, Created Equal This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 19, 20241h 9m

John McWhorter – Claudine Gay, MLK, and GLENN'S NEW BOOK

0:00 Preorder Glenn’s forthcoming memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative2:17 Why Glenn wrote a memoir (and why you should order it now)8:59 A ringing endorsement from John10:00 What does Martin Luther King Jr. Day mean in 2024?15:28 Preserving King’s belief in “the content of our character”16:20 What would King have thought of Claudine Gay?20:20 King’s radicalism25:54 John: Being against DEI does not make you a racist28:10 The Tabia Lee affair at D’Anza Community College29:58 How Claudine Gay should have reacted to the plagiarism scandal32:47 Glenn: “The DEI movement is hoist on its own petard”35:57 How DEI’s dominance has improved John’s home media set-up41:41 John’s upcoming cabaret showLinks and ReadingsJohn’s NYT piece, “Claudine Gay Was Not Driven Out Because She Is Black”Glenn’s conversation with Tabia Lee“All’s Fair in Love and War” from Gold Diggers of 1937 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 15, 202442 min

Omer Bartov – Israel's Hard Right Turn

0:00 The long road leading to the Gaza War9:14 Don’t Palestinians have some responsibility for the current state of affairs?9:48 The precedent of the 1973 Yom Kippur War11:26 Omer: Israel only negotiates under pressure13:31 Netanyahu and the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin15:27 The US’s military support for Israel16:32 The origins of Hamas20:20 Omer: Netanyahu’s coalition is “a mirror image of Hamas”24:45 The threat to democracy in Israel26:27 Omer: Netanyahu is driving the country to the right in order to avoid a corruption trial30:07 How “Jewish supremacists” have gained control of Israel’s government34:01 Why Omer’s Zionism does not commit him to defending Israel’s actions36:46 The risk of genocide in Gaza40:05 The IDF’s procedure in the Gaza invasion43:09 What will happen to the Gazan refugees?45:00 The international community’s role in finding a resolution to the Gaza War48:17 Is the IDF “the most moral army in the world”?54:39 The revenge motive57:07 Omer: The campaign in Gaza is a fiasco59:38 A US-led plan for “the day after”1:04:37 Is peace in Israel a pollyannaish pipe dream?Recorded January 2, 2023Links and ReadingsBenny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel-Palestine ConflictOmer’s New Statesman piece, “Both Netanyahu and Hamas see this crisis as an opportunity”Hamas’s 1988 charterOmer’s NYT op-ed, “What I Believe as a Historian of Genocide” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 12, 20241h 10m

John McWhorter – The Best of Glenn and John 2023

I had planned to release the first Glenn and John episode of 2024 on New Year’s Day. Unfortunately, life had other plans, and John and I could not record as scheduled. So instead, my staff put together this collection of some of our favorite clips from 2023. John and I covered a lot of ground last year. Here you’ll see us addressing African American performance on standardized tests, the Supreme Court’s affirmative action decision, the riots of 2020, the Gaza War, and other big topics on the show.0:00 A New Year's message from Glenn2:36 How do we know that African Americans are just as smart as everyone else?11:15 Glenn goes in on the 2020 riots16:34 John: I love linguistics, but linguistics no longer loves me25:37 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?34:58 When the smoke clears in Gaza45:34 John: “We’ve been lied to” about George Floyd’s death54:32 Glenn and John revisit their first conversation This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 5, 20241h 7m

Philip Howard – Getting Unions Out of Government

0:00 Philip’s early work on post-nuclear war recovery2:26 Philip’s skepticism toward the role of lawyers in the US4:34 What’s wrong with the EPA, OSHA, and the EEOC?6:59 How to ensure worker safety without “4,000 rules”8:07 Why the US spends so much on healthcare11:32 Philip: We’ve degenerated into a culture of distrust14:58 The origins of American distrust18:42 Re-instilling trust21:38 The problems of national security and public health26:57 Are public employee unions constitutional?39:35 Market constraints don’t hold for government employees34:55 Do public sector workers need protection from exploitation?39:22 Philip: “Public service is repellant to good candidates”40:58 A short history of the civil service46:49 Is Philip inveighing against the Democratic Party and the labor movement at large?53:12 Philip: Police unions prevent accountability, too56:08 The necessity of a constitutional solution to public unions1:00:58 Philip: The political organizing of public unions harms the public1:04:46 Would the current Supreme Court be receptive to Philip’s case?Recorded October 27, 2023Links and ReadingsPhilip’s book, The Death of Common Sense: How Law Is Suffocating AmericaPhilip’s book, Life Without Lawyers: Restoring Responsibility in AmericaPhilip’s latest book, Not Accountable: Rethinking the Constitutionality of Public Employee UnionsEdward Banfield’s book, The Moral Basis of a Backward SocietyRobert Putnam’s book, Making Democracy Work: Civic Traditions in Modern ItalyPhilip’s forthcoming book, Everyday Freedom: Designing the Framework for a Flourishing Society This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 29, 20231h 9m

John McWhorter, Liz Collin & JC Chaix – Filmmakers Reveal the Truth about George Floyd

0:00 How Liz and JC came to collaborate on their doc, The Fall of Minneapolis4:18 JC: No, the footage in the doc is not AI-manipulated6:08 How much of the body cam footage is previously unseen?8:18 Who lied about George Floyd, what did they lie about, and why?13:30 The relevance of Floyd’s behavior during the incident17:30 JC: Minneapolis Chief of Police Arradondo perjured himself22:30 Minnesota DA Keith Ellison’s email to Glenn24:11 The expert testimony from Dr. Martin Tobin on Floyd’s cause of death26:12 Adjudicating disputes about the cause of death34:36 Were racial justice tropes part of the Floyd incident?38:20 Why Liz and JC think Derek Chauvin didn’t get a fair trial41:28 Why JC didn’t include the entire viral video of Floyd in the doc44:30 What Chauvin told JC about the incident47:40 Humanizing the Minnesota police50:41 The aftermath of the Minneapolis riots55:32 The lawsuits that followed the Floyd family’s settlement56:34 The drugs that “complicated” Floyd’s restraintRecorded December 16, 2023.Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s episode about The Fall of MinneapolisLiz and JC’s documentary, The Fall of MinneapolisLiz’s book, They're Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 22, 20231h 2m

Tabia Lee – An Ex-DEI Director Speaks Out

0:00 Tabia’s early career as a teacher5:40 Tabia’s “rough ride” as a DEI director17:06 The antisemitism problem at De Anza25:25 The inescapable BIPOC binary28:52 From disagreement to deplatforming35:30 Why Tabia found support among students but not faculty39:00 How attempts to silence Tabia backfired40:54 Tabia’s broad vision of diversity47:46 Learning from the medical professionals of GalileeRecorded November 27, 2023Links and ReadingsTabia’s New York Post piece, “I was a DEI director — DEI drives campus antisemitism”Tabia’s Compact piece, “A Black DEI Director Canceled by DEI”Foundation Against Intolerance and RacismDo No Harm MedicineCoalition for Empowered Education This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 15, 202353 min

John McWhorter – The Truth about George Floyd's Death

0:00 A new documentary about George Floyd’s death raises new questions5:42 John: “We’ve been lied to” about George Floyd’s death14:27 The price of a “poetic truth”20:09 Was the Derek Chauvin jury intimidated into delivering a guilty verdict?23:26 Glenn: George Floyd was no hero29:03 The burning of Minneapolis’s 3rd Precinct34:54 Is there any hope of changing the George Floyd narrative?41:48 Who will take responsibility for changing things in black America?Recorded December 2, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s May 2020 episode, “Cops and Race”Liz Collin and JC Chaix’s documentary, The Fall of MinneapolisEli and Shelby Steele’s documentary, What Killed Michael Brown?Barbershop, “OJ did it”Coleman Hughes’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 8, 202351 min

November 2023 Q&A

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John answer Substack subscriber questions from November 2023.

Dec 6, 20230 min

Erec Smith – Free Black Thought

0:00 Is “black heterodoxy” a euphemism for “black conservatism”?13:34 Classical liberalism’s role in Free Black Thought15:07 Erec: I saw things while working as a diversity officer that I can’t unsee22:47 Why the Democratic Party doesn’t like Erec30:38 How Free Black Thought is fostering agency in the black community36:16 Erec: The onus is on us, not affirmative action, to prepare black students for college45:19 What is rhetoric, anyway?Recorded November 13, 2023Links and ReadingsErec’s nonprofit, Free Black ThoughtJournal of Free Black ThoughtFree Black Thought’s podcastMinnesota’s Take Charge programThe Hidden Genius ProjectGlenn’s essay in the Journal of Free Black Thought, “Wrestle Not against Flesh and Blood” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 1, 202355 min

John McWhorter, Daniel Bessner & Tyler Austin Harper – The Gaza War and the Crisis of Liberalism

0:00 The state of campus speech after 10/75:48 Daniel: Why are critics of cancel culture silent when it comes to Israel?15:43 “Explaining” Hamas vs. “excusing” Hamas26:17 Tyler: American Jewish students worried about their safety have been primed by modern identity politics29:31 The tension between DEI and antisemitism response teams38:17 The linguistic ambiguity of “From the river to the sea”43:41 The irreconcilable conflict between campus social justice and donor funding47:49 If not liberalism, then what?53:51 Tyler: Postwar political conservatism is coming apartRecorded November 18, 2023Links and ReadingsDaniel’s podcast, American PrestigeGlenn’s conversation with Yascha Mounk (recorded October 3, 2023)Adam Shatz’s book, The Rebel’s Clinic: The Revolutionary Lives of Frantz FanonLisa Stampnitzky’s book, Disciplining Terror: How Experts Invented “Terrorism”Daniel’s essay in the Nation, “A Bad Breakup”Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer’s book, Dialectic of Enlightenment: Philosophical FragmentsDaniel’s Harper’s essay, “Empire Burlesque” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 24, 202357 min

Robert Wright – The Gaza War Will Create More Terrorists (Bonus Episode)

0:00 How Bob gave Glenn his start in podcasting2:05 Is the Gaza War in Israel’s best interests …11:46 … and if not, what should Israel have done in response to October 7?18:06 How Hamas gained control of Gaza26:53 Bob: Some in the Israeli government wouldn’t mind a wider war in the Middle East36:46 What does “From the river to the sea” actually mean?46:10 Bob: Every settlement in the West Bank is a war crime54:20 The psychology of victimhood and retribution1:00:37 The challenge of spiritual transformationRecorded November 13, 2023Links and ReadingsBob’s Substack, the Nonzero NewsletterBrown University faculty’s call for a ceasefireGlenn’s conversation with John McWhorter, “Thinking Through the Gaza War”Bob’s Nonzero Newsletter piece, “The Truth about Hamas”John Judis’s 2013 New Republic piece, “Clueless in Gaza”John Judis and Ruy Texeira’s book, Where Have All the Democrats Gone?: The Soul of the Party in the Age of ExtremesBob’s Nonzero Newsletter piece, “The ‘River to the Sea’ Rorschach Test”Bob debates Eli Lake on Israel-PalestineJimmy Carter’s book, Palestine: Peace Not ApartheidBob’s book, Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and EnlightenmentThe documentary Disturbing the Peace This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 19, 20231h 11m

Yascha Mounk – The Identity Trap

0:35 A quick announcement1:46 What led Yascha to write about identity6:22 An intellectual history of “identity synthesis”12:15 What’s so bad about “strategic essentialism”?19:15 From postmodernism to post-civil rights28:45 The three key claims of identity synthesis36:02 What led up to the summer of 2020?45:51 The hermetically sealed ideology of Kendi and DiAngelo50:45 Yascha’s defense of universalismRecorded October 3, 2023Links and ReadingsYascha’s new book, The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our TimeMichel Foucault’s book, The Order of Things: An Archaeology of the Human SciencesEdward Said’s book, OrientalismGayatri Spivak’s essay, “Can the Subaltern Speak?”Glenn’s debate with Kmele Foster, Shelby Steele, Robert Woodson, and Reihan SalamKaren and Barbara Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American LifeTommie Shelby’s book, We Who Are Dark: The Philosophical Foundations of Black SolidarityNoam Chomsky and Michel Foucault’s 1971 debate on Dutch televisionDerrick Bell’s book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of RacismDerrick Bell’s essay, “Serving Two Masters: Integration Ideals and Client Interests in School Desegregation Litigation”Mahalia Jackson singing “We Shall Overcome”Roy D’Andrade’s article, “Moral Models in Anthropology” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 17, 202356 min

Reza Aslan – An American Martyr in Persia

0:00 Persia at the turn of the twentieth century6:43 Woodrow Wilson’s contradictions11:14 Did Howard Baskerville escape the prejudices of his time?16:39 How Baskerville got involved in Persia’s democratic revolution26:43 How Czar Nicholas II aided the counter-revolution32:29 The erasure of Baskerville in post-1979 Iran36:31 The theological origin of the Islamic Republic of Iran45:01 Reza: Ordinary Iranians actually love American culture48:51 The internal and external pressures on Iran57:21 The amorality of foreign policyRecorded October 25, 2023Links and ReadingsReza’s book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of NazarethReza’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard Baskerville This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 10, 20231h 5m

October 2023 Q&A

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John answer subscriber questions.

Nov 8, 20236 min

John McWhorter – Thinking Through the Gaza War

0:00 Why John thinks pro-Hamas sentiment on the American left is racist 6:11 Distinguishing between anti-colonialism and antisemitism 12:46 There are great crimes in America’s past. But we shouldn’t let them define us.17:08 Glenn: We’re standing on the precipice of something catastrophic 27:57 John’s proposal for the US’s role in Israel’s domestic conflict 34:59 Is it right for people to lose their jobs over opposing Israel? 42:07 Why are pro-Hamas leftists supporting an anti-liberal regime? 47:01 Glenn and John’s responsibilities as teachers 52:26 What’s next on TGSRecorded October 28, 2023Links and ReadingsJohn’s Free Press piece, “The Ultimate Condescension Toward Palestinians”Adam Shatz’s LRB essay, “Vengeful Pathologies”Joe Biden’s Oval Office address on Israel and UkraineReza Aslan’s book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of NazarethReza Aslan’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard Baskerville This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 3, 202353 min

John Mearsheimer – America's Sunk Cost in Ukraine

0:00 Why John thinks Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was rational6:55 How small states deal with world powers10:13 If Russia’s action were rational, were the US’s?16:40 John: The Ukraine invasion violates international law, but Russia has reason to see it as just21:58 The risk of escalation29:26 Zelensky’s expert manipulation of the West33:51 Is it a coincidence that so many recent presidential scandals involve Ukraine?39:57 Can tolerant liberals tolerate illiberal societies?45:45 American Russophobia didn’t cause the war, but it’s not helping49:19 John: If Putin is overthrown, his replacement will probably be even more brutal53:35 The foreign policy establishment’s grip on both Democrats and RepublicansLinks and ReadingsJohn’s SubstackJohn’s book, with Sebastian Rosato, How States Think: The Rationality of Foreign PolicyJohn’s essay, “Bound to Lose” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 27, 20231h 6m

John McWhorter & Coleman Hughes – The Colorblindness Controversy and Israel-Hamas

0:00 The blowback from Coleman’s TED Talk 8:50 Did TED intentionally throttle promotion for Coleman’s talk? 17:08 John’s trouble with TED while promoting Woke Racism 20:21 Coleman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America 29:17 Race in public and private life 43:49 Closure on the TED affair 45:14 What are the goals of each side in the Israel-Palestine conflict? 51:58 Will the Israeli military response simply restart the cycle of violence and resentment? 1:02:15 The threat of post-October 7 overreactionLinks and ReadingsColeman’s Substack, Coleman’s CornerColeman’s podcast, Conversations with ColemanColeman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind AmericaColeman's conversation with Glenn Greenwald about the TED TalkColeman’s TED Talk, “A Case for Color Blindness”Coleman’s Free Press piece, “Why Is TED Scared of Color Blindness”Coleman’s conversation with Jamelle BouieGeroge Packer’s Atlantic piece, “Israel Must Not React Stupidly” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 20, 20231h 9m

Randall Kennedy & Renu Mukherjee – A Debate on Affirmative Action, Live at Holy Cross

0:00 Introduction by Greg Burnep4:27 What does affirmative action mean in 2023?11:06 Randy’s distinction between “disadvantage” and “discrimination”18:21 Diversity’s double-talk31:18 Did the Supreme Court say discrimination is allowed at military academies?34:33 Glenn: Affirmative action distracts us from bigger problems41:16 Affirmative action is an elite problem48:48 Affirmative action as an insurance policy57:42 The stigmatization of affirmative action beneficiaries1:04:14 Glenn: Affirmative action has been a net positive, but it’s time to stop1:07:14 Q&A: Does historical injustice alone justify affirmative action?1:10:33 Q&A: Can and should colleges use loopholes to get around Students for Fair Admissions?1:14:50 Q&A: Does the “need” for affirmative action say something race or education?1:16:27 Q&A: What is the impact of SFFA beyond the university?1:23:35 Q&A: What about class-based affirmative action?Recorded September 20, 2023Links and ReadingsRandy’s book, Race, Crime, and the LawRandy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the LawGlenn’s conversation with Jay Caspian Kang This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 13, 20231h 36m

September 2023 Q&A

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John answer subscriber questions.

Oct 11, 202314 min

John McWhorter & Dan Subotnik – The Ibram X. Kendi Scandal

0:00 What’s wrong with critical race theory, anyway? 3:31 Why “black Columbia” pretends that John doesn’t exist 12:08 CRT’s racial power-grab 18:06 Does the Jewish American example apply to African Americans? 23:10 Disguising failure as victimology 32:15 Why Dan thinks the CRT tide is ebbing 39:58 The schadenfreude of the Ibram X. Kendi scandal 51:00 John: “I’m embarrassed for Boston University” 56:40 Glenn: Kendi is just a cog in the fraudulent antiracist machine 1:04:31 The shame of the Kendi scandalRecorded September 30, 2023Links and ReadingsDan’s book, Toxic Diversity: Gender, Race, and Law Talk in AmericaFrantz Fanon’s book, The Wretched of the EarthAdam Schatz’s forthcoming biography, The Rebel’s Clinic: The Revolutionary Lives of Frantz FanonGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinGlenn and John’s conversation with Don BatonGlenn and John’s conversation with James Beaman This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 6, 20231h 11m

Sabrina Salvati & LaJuan Loury – Dems Take Fire from the Left

0:00 How Sabby got her start on YouTube6:18 What happened to the Justice Democrats’ “hostile takeover”?11:31 Is the US sliding into fascism?19:26 The tension between race and class on the left27:15 Donald Trump’s rising popularity among black men32:39 The military-industrial complex and climate change42:07 Sabby’s argument for worker co-ops51:20 Finding (somewhat) common ground on immigration54:18 Demilitarizing the police is one thing, defunding the police is another59:46 Sabby: “We should not be giving money to Ukraine”1:04:35 How Sabby deals with disrespectful guestsRecorded September 16, 2023Links & ReadingsSabby’s YouTube pageRevolutionary Blackout Network’s YouTube pageSabby’s interview with Cornel WestAOC’s endorsement of Joe Biden on Pod Save AmericaJimmy Dore’s interview with Cornel WestSabby’s episode on Jimmy Dore-Cornel West interviewGlenn and John McWhorter’s conversation with Mark GoldblattGlenn’s debate with Richard WolffBriahana Joy Gray debates Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinski This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 29, 20231h 10m

John McWhorter & Tyler Austin Harper – How the Race Game Is Played

0:00 Tyler’s concept of “racial gamification” 6:30 Affirmative action in spirit and practice 13:18 Why can’t we just determine admissions based on academic merit alone? 19:17 The fading popularity of “traditional” affirmative action 22:47 Re-weighting and funding the admissions process 32:28 How can we get white “allies” to act normal around black people? 38:23 Can we have interpersonal colorblindness without political colorblindness? 44:42 Tyler’s scholarly work about the end of humanity 48:10 Glenn prepares for his conversation with Sabrina SalvatiRecorded September 10, 2023Links and ReadingsTyler’s NYT piece, “I Teach at an Elite College. Here’s a Look Inside the Racial Gaming of Admissions”Tyler’s Atlantic piece, “I’m a Black Professor. You Don’t Need to Bring That Up.”Roland Fryer’s NYT piece, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”Glenn’s conversation with Jay Caspian KangJimmy Dore’s interview with Cornel WestJohn’s appearance on The View This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 22, 202353 min

Shep Melnick – The Crucible of Desegregation

0:00 Biden’s new DEI initiatives7:59 The disparate uses of disparate impact13:59 Shep’s new book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational Equality23:15 The problem with claims that education is resegregating29:56 Are we heading back to the bussing debates of the 1970s?35:52 Shep’s book, The Transformation of Title IX: Regulating Gender Equality in Education44:20 Glenn’s “uncle” objects to analogies between trans people and African Americans47:58 Shep: Banning Critical Race Theory is the wrong strategyRecorded September 8, 2023Links and ReadingsShep’s new book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational EqualityHeather Mac Donald’s book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens LivesGary Orfield’s book, The Reconstruction of Southern Education: The Schools and the 1964 Civil Rights ActJames Fishkin’s book, Justice, Equal Opportunity, and the FamilyShep’s book, The Transformation of Title IX: Regulating Gender Equality in EducationJohn Skretny’s book, The Minority Rights RevolutionRobin DiAngelo’s book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about Racism This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 15, 20231h 2m

John McWhorter – Whose Election Narrative?

0:00 Can a white man tell Harriet Tubman’s story?9:59 What the fall semester has in store for Glenn and John17:25 How John makes the sausage at the New York Times22:55 John: We now memorize rap lyrics instead of poetry36:18 Is wokeness on the wane?42:12 What John just doesn’t get about Carol Swain51:46 A Democrat by any other name56:50 John makes a wild prediction about TrumpRecorded August 31, 2023Links and ReadingsThe Philadelphia Harriet Tubman statueJohn’s NYT piece, “Two Languages Walk into a Bar”John’s NYT piece, “How Hip-Hop Became America’s Poetry”Oliver Anthony’s song, “Rich Men North of Richmond”Jason Aldean’s song, “Try That in a Small Town”Donald Trump’s mugshotSabrina Salvati’s YouTube channelCarol Swain’s recent TGS episodeCarol Swain’s book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African Americans in CongressDinesh D’Souza’s film, 2000 MulesCarol Swain’s PragerU videos This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 8, 20231h 0m

August 2023 Q&A

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Sep 6, 20238 min

Carol Swain – The Adversity of Diversity

0:00 Why Carol joined Black Voices for Trump9:59 Why should black people support Trump?16:31 Carol: Democrats stole the 2020 election26:07 Does Trump face a credible assassination threat?30:35 The redefinition of white supremacy35:51 Deracializing the crime debate39:58 Carol’s new book, The Adversity of Diversity: How Real Training Can Promote Healing in a Post-Affirmative Action World50:55 Glenn: Affirmative action is one thing, DEI is another1:04:54 Clarence Thomas v. Ketanji Brown Jackson1:08:06 What affirmative action did rightRecorded August 26, 2023Links and ReadingsCarol and Mike Towle’s new book, The Adversity of Diversity: How Real Training Can Promote Healing in a Post-Affirmative Action WorldCarol’s Godfather III Twitter (now X) postReuters story on Harrison FloydJason Riley’s book, The Black BoomTucker Carlson’s debate night interview with Donald TrumpCarol’s book, The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to IntegrationCarol and Christopher J. Schorr’s book, Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 1, 20231h 18m

John McWhorter – Sixteen Years of "The Black Guys"

0:00 A sixteen-year-long conversation5:45 Race and socioeconomics on the cusp of the Obama Era21:19 The myth of black poverty and deindustrialization32:56 Glenn pulls rank37:59 Why Glenn changed his mind about the Manhattan Institute50:15 Is the think tank world any more “objective” than academia?Recorded August 19, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s first conversation from November 7, 2007John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaJohn’s book, Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black AmericaGlenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial InequalityMartin Peretz’s memoir, The Controversialist: Arguments with Everyone, Left, Right, and CenterJeffrey O.C. Ogbar’s book, Hip-Hop Revolution: The Culture and Politics of RapCharles Murray’s book, Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 25, 202354 min

Haim Shweky – An American-Israeli at the Ukrainian Front

0:00 Haim’s history with The Glenn Show7:54 How Haim ended up fighting in Ukraine17:42 The legionnaire’s lingua franca27:55 Haim’s riposte to Cornel West on Ukraine42:27 A pen in one hand and a gun in the other47:56 Haim: Ukraine’s sovereignty and national identity must be respected53:34 Is the two-state solution dead?Recorded July 23, 2023Links and ReadingsHaim’s writing for this newsletterHaim’s Substack, The GarlandGlenn’s recent conversation with Cornel WestHaim and Nikita Petrov’s exchange on the Ukraine WarNikita’s Substack, Psychopolitica This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 18, 20231h 4m

John McWhorter & Ian Buruma – The Spirit of Wokeness

0:00 The protestant ethic and the spirit of wokeness 10:47 Is comparing wokeness to religion a slander on religion? 21:08 Ian: Wokeness is a distraction from real political problems 28:02 How Ian experienced his own cancelation 41:31 America’s exportation of wokeness 45:45 Has wokeness aided and abetted Trump and Brexit? 52:54 John: Enslaved people did find ways to improve their own livesRecorded August 7, 2023Links and ReadingsIan’s Harper’s piece, “Doing the Work”John’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black AmericaJian Ghomeshi’s 2018 NYRB piece, “Reflections from a Hashtag”Tomiwa Owolade’s book, This is Not America: Why Black Lives in Britain MatterDavid Brooks’s NYT oped, “What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?”John’s NYT oped, “One Sentence Does Not Define a Curriculum”The Florida Board of Education’s 2023 standards for social studiesRobert Cherry’s essay on slavery at this newsletter This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 11, 20231h 7m

July 2023 Q&A

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Aug 9, 202310 min

Jay Caspian Kang – Affirmative Elitism

0:00 How Jay’s position on affirmative action changed12:15 Jay: I can’t see the virtue in affirmative action as it’s practiced20:07 Why did so many Asian students defend policies that discriminated against Asians?25:35 The hidden cultural argument in the California Mathematics Framework32:01 Is the “people of color coalition” coming apart?34:55 Why so little outrage over the SCOTUS affirmative action decision?42:26 When students internalize artificial trauma narratives49:06 America can’t economically decouple itself from China. Will anti-China rhetoric wane?55:49 What will and won’t change in the wake of Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard1:05:29 Isn’t there some value to diversity in education?Recorded July 24, 2023Links and ReadingsJay’s New Yorker piece, “Why the Champions of Affirmative Action Had to Leave Asian Americans Behind”Jay’s book, The Loneliest AmericansJay’s podcast with E. Tammy Kim, Time to Say GoodbyeJay’s 2019 New York Times Magazine piece, “Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans?”Jennifer Lee and Min Zhou’s book, The Asian American Achievement ParadoxNatasha Warikoo’s book, Race at the Top: Asian Americans and Whites in Pursuit of the American Dream in Suburban SchoolsThe California Mathematics FrameworkRoland Fryer’s NYT piece, “How to Fix College Admissions Now” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Aug 4, 20231h 14m

John McWhorter and Peter Arcidiacono – The Economics of SFFA v. Harvard

0:00 Peter’s role in the Supreme Court affirmative action case8:57 Are legacy admissions affirmative action by another name?19:17 Why Peter got interested in affirmative action24:20 Glenn was for affirmative action before he was against it30:33 Peter: Universities are not honest about admissions34:20 The brilliance of Roland Fryer51:17 Campus diversity after affirmative actionRecorded July 22, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn’s 2020 conversation with PeterPeter’s paper, “What happens after enrollment? An analysis of the time path of racial differences in GPA and major choice”Mary Sue Coleman on the steps of the Supreme CourtJohn’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaRoland Fryer’s paper, “An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force”Federico Echenique and Roland Fryer’s paper, “A Measure of Segregation Based on Social Interactions”David Austen-Smith and Roland Fryer’s paper, “The Economics of ‘Acting White’” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 28, 20231h 0m

Matt Johnson – The Lessons of Christopher Hitchens

0:00 How Matt first encountered Christopher Hitchens6:07 Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment8:00 Why Matt thinks Cornel West’s Vietnam-Afghanistan analogy is flawed14:21 What’s worth preserving in the left-liberal tradition?21:38 Matt: Identity politics is a “toxin”27:20 Was affirmative action ever necessary?35:29 Matt: I wish the left would rediscover Hitchens’s universalism45:04 Hitchens’s “fearless liberalism”Recorded July 6, 2023Links and ReadingsMatt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-EnlightenmentHitchens’s NYRB review of Douglas Murray’s Bosie: A Biography of Lord Alfred DouglasHitchens’s book, Why Orwell MattersGeorge Orwell’s book, Keep The Aspidistra FlyingGlenn’s recent conversation with Cornel WestMatt’s Quilette essay on John MearsheimerMatt’s Quillette essay on Bayard RustinJonathan Eig’s King: A LifeNathan Glazer’s book, Affirmative Discrimination: Ethnic Inequality and Public PolicyRoland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”Glenn’s debate with HitchensTa-Nehisi Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”Bayard Rustin’s 1965 Commentary essay, “From Protest to Politics: The Future of the Civil Rights Movement”Norman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomGlenn’s conversation with Norman Finkelstein This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 21, 202354 min

John McWhorter – The End of Race-Based Affirmative Action

0:00 John: Let’s be honest about what “taking race into account” means in affirmative action10:09 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?19:29 Why are we so focused on elite institutions?24:32 John: The University of California works just fine without “racial preferences”30:28 “You’re pulling the ladder up behind you” is an invalid critique35:00 John: The fact that racism exists does not justify changing standards44:04 Why Roland Fryer thinks we should put our money where our mouth is on race and education51:04 Will the post-Students for Fair Admissions future turn into a “Hardship Olympics”?Recorded July 8, 2023Links and ReadingsZachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action, Mismatch, and Economic Mobility after California’s Proposition 209”Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action and Its Race-Neutral Alternatives”The Supreme Court opinions in Students for Fair Admissions v. HarvardJohn’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaJohn’s NYT piece, “On Race and Academia”Roland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 14, 20231h 3m

June 2023 Q&A

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Jul 12, 20237 min

Jay Bhattacharya – Rewriting the COVID Narrative

0:00 The problem with scientific consensus6:36 Why Jay and his colleagues were branded “fringe epidemiologists”15:52 Jay: We need to engage with everyone—even those with mistaken beliefs25:55 Persuading science skeptics36:04 How do we stop COVID overreach from happening again?46:38 Jay: Gain-of-function research is impossible to do safely55:03 Are some ideas too dangerous to test?59:30 Jay: Fauci’s blunder was so catastrophic that only history can judge himRecorded June 23, 2023Links and ReadingsRav Arora and Jay’s newsletter, The Illusion of ConsensusDoris Kearns Goodwin’s book, Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham LincolnThe Great Barrington DeclarationSteve Koonin’s book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Asks Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It MattersSteve Koonin’s TGS appearanceTjalling Koopman’s, Three Essays on the State of Economic ScienceEmily Oster’s Atlantic piece, “Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty”The Norfolk Group DocumentGlenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”Richard Feynman demonstrates flaws in Challenger’s O-ringsRoger Shattuck’s book, Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jul 7, 20231h 5m

Cornel West – The Presidential Aspirations of Cornel West

0:00 Why Cornel is running for president10:45 How Cornel links American militarism abroad and inequality at home15:15 Cornel’s pitch to skeptical right-of-center voters20:30 Is there tension between Cornel’s commitment to stopping climate change and his commitment to helping the working class?33:50 The moral potential and pitfalls of capitalism37:34 Might Cornel inadvertently hand the election to the Republicans?41:44 Cornel: Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas are wrong, but they’re sincere46:06 Why Cornel thinks the US is partially culpable for the Ukraine War52:04 Should Palestinians recognize the legitimacy of the State of Israel?1:00:23 Cornel’s ideas about the US borderRecorded on June 16, 2023Links and ReadingsCornel’s campaign websiteCornel’s TGS appearance with Teodros KirosGlenn and Richard Wolff debate capitalism and socialismCornel and Robert George on PBS’s Firing LineSteve Koonin’s TGS appearanceErnesto Cortes’s TGS appearanceBenjamin Schwartz and Christopher Layne’s Harper’s essay, “Why Are We in Ukraine?” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 30, 20231h 5m

Sally Satel – The Ethics of Selling a Kidney (Bonus Episode)

The following bonus episode was previously available only to paying Substack subscribers. We’re now releasing it to the public. 0:00 Identitarianism in the medical profession5:13 The (exaggerated) psychiatric toll of Covid7:31 Why were psychiatrists publicly diagnosing Trump?12:29 Sally’s quest for a kidney donor23:30 How the kidney donation system works and why it doesn’t29:30 The ethics of selling a kidney34:42 Can we put a price on the human body?43:44 Would paying donors exploit the poor?48:17 Is paid kidney donation a political possibility?53:12 The roadblocks facing paid kidney donationLinks and ReadingsSally’s book, P.C., M.D.: How Political Correctness Is Corrupting MedicineChristina Hoff Sommers and Sally’s book, One Nation Under Therapy: How the Helping Culture is Eroding Self-ReliancePeter Kramer and Sally’s 2017 NYT op-ed, “Who Decides Whether Trump Is Unfit to Govern?”matchingdonors.comLeon Kass’s book, Life, Liberty, and the Defense of Dignity: The Challenge for BioethicsGlenn’s conversation with Michael SandelMichael Novak’s defense of paid kidney donation in First ThingsSally’s book, When Altruism Isn’t Enough: The Case for Compensating Kidney DonorsSally’s New York Times Magazine piece, “Desperately Seeking a Kidney”Sally’s website This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 25, 202358 min

John McWhorter & Jonathan Rieder – Canceling "Culture in America"

0:00 Why Jonathan’s course “Culture in America” got canceled 9:07 The fragility of liberal arts education 17:24 Managing “CRT zealots” in the classroom 27:44 Is there a future for free inquiry? 35:03 John: Black middle-class students don’t need affirmative action 44:57 Is diversity the problem, or is it elitism? 52:35 The virtues (and virtue signaling) of Randall KennedyRecorded June 17, 2023Links and ReadingsAlex Morey and Nadine Strossen’s FIRE article about Jonathan, “Who’s Allowed to Teach ‘Culture in America’?”Barnard’s Center for Engaged PedagogyJohn’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black AmericaRobin DiAngelo’s book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about RacismCornell Belcher’s book, A Black Man in the White House: Barack Obama and the Triggering of America’s Racial-Aversion CrisisRichard Rothstein’s Atlantic piece, “The Problem with Wealth-Based Affirmative Action”John’s guest post, “Racial Preferences May End, but the Fight Will Continue”Derrick Bell’s book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of RacismGlenn’s City Journal essay, “Affirmative Distraction”Randall Kennedy NYT guest essay, “The Truth Is, Many Americans Just Don’t Want Black People to Get Ahead”Randall Kennedy’s Atlantic essay, “My Race Problem”Randall Kennedy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the LawRandall Kennedy’s book, Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome WordJohn McWhorter and Randall Kennedy on The Glenn ShowJohn’s 2008 Bloggingheads conversation with Randall Kennedy This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 23, 20231h 2m

Robert Cherry – The State of the Black Family

0:00 Bob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope7:02 Bob: “Liberals have given up” on changing black family dynamics15:02 Two-parent families are preferable, but single-parent families need help22:01 Do children help women organize their lives more effectively than men?29:14 Is community college helping or hurting young black men?38:38 How Bob thinks police and communities should deter violence45:42 Work requirements with a human face56:04 The moderate’s dilemmaRecorded May 4, 2023Links and ReadingsBob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering HopeDaniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National ActionHerbert Gutman’s book, The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925Lawrence Mead’s book, Beyond Entitlement: The Social Obligations of CitizenshipLawrence Mead on TGS This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 16, 20231h 5m

John McWhorter – How Should We Memorialize the Past?

0:00 Inside the mind of a crack columnist4:19 The blowback from Norman Finkelstein’s TGS appearance15:27 Is it enough to be a “happy warrior” for your cause?28:45 How did MLK become MLK?37:37 What’s in a name when that name is “Woodrow Wilson”?49:10 Glenn: “Clarence Thomas’s name should be on public school buildings”Recorded May 30, 2023Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT archiveNorman Finkelstein on TGSNorman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomJonathan Eig’s new biography of Martin Luther King, King: A LifeJonathan Eig’s biography of Muhammad Ali, Ali: A LifeCharles Johnson’s novel, Middle PassageCharles Johnson’s novel, DreamerReza Aslan’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard BaskervillePBS’s Frontline documentary, Clarence and Ginni This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 9, 20231h 8m

Charles Love & Donique Rolle – Teaching Black History without CRT

0:00 Charles’s argument for emphasizing education over systemic racism5:21 Donique: Teaching African American history doesn’t require critical race theory15:36 Charles: We are the 97%!18:48 How Donique balances oppression and triumph in black history24:02 What does Florida’s Stop WOKE Act actually say?33:30 What’s wrong with integrating LGBT history and black history?44:19 Sexuality’s ever-shifting Overton window49:40 Why Donique, a public school teacher, advocates for homeschooling54:30 Expanding the canon of historic black figuresRecorded April 10, 2023Links and ReadingsCharles’s podcast, Cut the BullSeeking Educational ExcellenceThe Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites projectPutting the Pieces TogetherIan Rowe’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 2, 202358 min

May 2023 Q&A

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Jun 1, 202311 min

John McWhorter – Race, Reparations, and Jordan Neely

0:00 John: “I love linguistics, but it no longer loves me”9:44 How Glenn and John are getting written out of their fields19:27 Jordan Neely didn’t deserve to die …27:28 … but the New York subway is getting scary37:45 Glenn: Reparations would be “impractical, unfair, and divisive in the extreme”50:50 A possible left-wing objection to reparations57:22 Glenn goes ham on reparationsRecorded May 18, 2023Links and ReadingsSteven Pinker’s book, The Language Instinct: How the Mind Creates LanguageJohn’s book, Talking Back, Talking Black: Truths about America’s Lingua FrancaJohn’s book, Word on the Street: Debunking the Myth of “Pure” Standard EnglishJohn’s language podcast, Lexicon ValleyJohn, Our Magnificent B*****d Tongue: The Untold History of EnglishJohn’s NYT piece about Jordan Neely, “A Killing on the F Train”Ta-Nehisi Coates’s 2014 Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”Matthew Desmond’s book, Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American CityMatthew Desmond’s new book, Poverty, by AmericaGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinAugust Wilson’s play, Two Trains Running This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

May 26, 20231h 2m

Nikita Petrov – How Substack Can Solve Online Censorship (Bonus Episode)

0:00 Why YouTube censored a TGS episode6:25 How can YouTube justify censoring matters of opinion?15:15 Why there’s no such thing as free speech26:00 Nikita’s notes on Substack Notes39:53 Democratizing content moderation46:11 Creating better, community-centered comments sectionsRecorded May 4, 2023Links and ReadingsNikita’s Substack, PsychopoliticaThe censored TGS episode, “I Feel, Therefore I Am”Glenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”Matt Taibbi’s Substack, Racket NewsSubstack NotesGlenn’s most recent conversation with Amy Wax This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

May 21, 20231h 3m