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0:00 Why John thinks pro-Hamas sentiment on the American left is racist 6:11 Distinguishing between anti-colonialism and antisemitism 12:46 There are great crimes in America’s past. But we shouldn’t let them define us.17:08 Glenn: We’re standing on the precipice of something catastrophic 27:57 John’s proposal for the US’s role in Israel’s domestic conflict 34:59 Is it right for people to lose their jobs over opposing Israel? 42:07 Why are pro-Hamas leftists supporting an anti-liberal regime? 47:01 Glenn and John’s responsibilities as teachers 52:26 What’s next on TGSRecorded October 28, 2023Links and ReadingsJohn’s Free Press piece, “The Ultimate Condescension Toward Palestinians”Adam Shatz’s LRB essay, “Vengeful Pathologies”Joe Biden’s Oval Office address on Israel and UkraineReza Aslan’s book, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of NazarethReza Aslan’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard Baskerville This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Why John thinks Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was rational6:55 How small states deal with world powers10:13 If Russia’s action were rational, were the US’s?16:40 John: The Ukraine invasion violates international law, but Russia has reason to see it as just21:58 The risk of escalation29:26 Zelensky’s expert manipulation of the West33:51 Is it a coincidence that so many recent presidential scandals involve Ukraine?39:57 Can tolerant liberals tolerate illiberal societies?45:45 American Russophobia didn’t cause the war, but it’s not helping49:19 John: If Putin is overthrown, his replacement will probably be even more brutal53:35 The foreign policy establishment’s grip on both Democrats and RepublicansLinks and ReadingsJohn’s SubstackJohn’s book, with Sebastian Rosato, How States Think: The Rationality of Foreign PolicyJohn’s essay, “Bound to Lose” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 The blowback from Coleman’s TED Talk 8:50 Did TED intentionally throttle promotion for Coleman’s talk? 17:08 John’s trouble with TED while promoting Woke Racism 20:21 Coleman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America 29:17 Race in public and private life 43:49 Closure on the TED affair 45:14 What are the goals of each side in the Israel-Palestine conflict? 51:58 Will the Israeli military response simply restart the cycle of violence and resentment? 1:02:15 The threat of post-October 7 overreactionLinks and ReadingsColeman’s Substack, Coleman’s CornerColeman’s podcast, Conversations with ColemanColeman’s forthcoming book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind AmericaColeman's conversation with Glenn Greenwald about the TED TalkColeman’s TED Talk, “A Case for Color Blindness”Coleman’s Free Press piece, “Why Is TED Scared of Color Blindness”Coleman’s conversation with Jamelle BouieGeroge Packer’s Atlantic piece, “Israel Must Not React Stupidly” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Introduction by Greg Burnep4:27 What does affirmative action mean in 2023?11:06 Randy’s distinction between “disadvantage” and “discrimination”18:21 Diversity’s double-talk31:18 Did the Supreme Court say discrimination is allowed at military academies?34:33 Glenn: Affirmative action distracts us from bigger problems41:16 Affirmative action is an elite problem48:48 Affirmative action as an insurance policy57:42 The stigmatization of affirmative action beneficiaries1:04:14 Glenn: Affirmative action has been a net positive, but it’s time to stop1:07:14 Q&A: Does historical injustice alone justify affirmative action?1:10:33 Q&A: Can and should colleges use loopholes to get around Students for Fair Admissions?1:14:50 Q&A: Does the “need” for affirmative action say something race or education?1:16:27 Q&A: What is the impact of SFFA beyond the university?1:23:35 Q&A: What about class-based affirmative action?Recorded September 20, 2023Links and ReadingsRandy’s book, Race, Crime, and the LawRandy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the LawGlenn’s conversation with Jay Caspian Kang This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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0:00 What’s wrong with critical race theory, anyway? 3:31 Why “black Columbia” pretends that John doesn’t exist 12:08 CRT’s racial power-grab 18:06 Does the Jewish American example apply to African Americans? 23:10 Disguising failure as victimology 32:15 Why Dan thinks the CRT tide is ebbing 39:58 The schadenfreude of the Ibram X. Kendi scandal 51:00 John: “I’m embarrassed for Boston University” 56:40 Glenn: Kendi is just a cog in the fraudulent antiracist machine 1:04:31 The shame of the Kendi scandalRecorded September 30, 2023Links and ReadingsDan’s book, Toxic Diversity: Gender, Race, and Law Talk in AmericaFrantz Fanon’s book, The Wretched of the EarthAdam Schatz’s forthcoming biography, The Rebel’s Clinic: The Revolutionary Lives of Frantz FanonGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinGlenn and John’s conversation with Don BatonGlenn and John’s conversation with James Beaman This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 How Sabby got her start on YouTube6:18 What happened to the Justice Democrats’ “hostile takeover”?11:31 Is the US sliding into fascism?19:26 The tension between race and class on the left27:15 Donald Trump’s rising popularity among black men32:39 The military-industrial complex and climate change42:07 Sabby’s argument for worker co-ops51:20 Finding (somewhat) common ground on immigration54:18 Demilitarizing the police is one thing, defunding the police is another59:46 Sabby: “We should not be giving money to Ukraine”1:04:35 How Sabby deals with disrespectful guestsRecorded September 16, 2023Links & ReadingsSabby’s YouTube pageRevolutionary Blackout Network’s YouTube pageSabby’s interview with Cornel WestAOC’s endorsement of Joe Biden on Pod Save AmericaJimmy Dore’s interview with Cornel WestSabby’s episode on Jimmy Dore-Cornel West interviewGlenn and John McWhorter’s conversation with Mark GoldblattGlenn’s debate with Richard WolffBriahana Joy Gray debates Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinski This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Tyler’s concept of “racial gamification” 6:30 Affirmative action in spirit and practice 13:18 Why can’t we just determine admissions based on academic merit alone? 19:17 The fading popularity of “traditional” affirmative action 22:47 Re-weighting and funding the admissions process 32:28 How can we get white “allies” to act normal around black people? 38:23 Can we have interpersonal colorblindness without political colorblindness? 44:42 Tyler’s scholarly work about the end of humanity 48:10 Glenn prepares for his conversation with Sabrina SalvatiRecorded September 10, 2023Links and ReadingsTyler’s NYT piece, “I Teach at an Elite College. Here’s a Look Inside the Racial Gaming of Admissions”Tyler’s Atlantic piece, “I’m a Black Professor. You Don’t Need to Bring That Up.”Roland Fryer’s NYT piece, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”Glenn’s conversation with Jay Caspian KangJimmy Dore’s interview with Cornel WestJohn’s appearance on The View This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Biden’s new DEI initiatives7:59 The disparate uses of disparate impact13:59 Shep’s new book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational Equality23:15 The problem with claims that education is resegregating29:56 Are we heading back to the bussing debates of the 1970s?35:52 Shep’s book, The Transformation of Title IX: Regulating Gender Equality in Education44:20 Glenn’s “uncle” objects to analogies between trans people and African Americans47:58 Shep: Banning Critical Race Theory is the wrong strategyRecorded September 8, 2023Links and ReadingsShep’s new book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational EqualityHeather Mac Donald’s book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens LivesGary Orfield’s book, The Reconstruction of Southern Education: The Schools and the 1964 Civil Rights ActJames Fishkin’s book, Justice, Equal Opportunity, and the FamilyShep’s book, The Transformation of Title IX: Regulating Gender Equality in EducationJohn Skretny’s book, The Minority Rights RevolutionRobin DiAngelo’s book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about Racism This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Can a white man tell Harriet Tubman’s story?9:59 What the fall semester has in store for Glenn and John17:25 How John makes the sausage at the New York Times22:55 John: We now memorize rap lyrics instead of poetry36:18 Is wokeness on the wane?42:12 What John just doesn’t get about Carol Swain51:46 A Democrat by any other name56:50 John makes a wild prediction about TrumpRecorded August 31, 2023Links and ReadingsThe Philadelphia Harriet Tubman statueJohn’s NYT piece, “Two Languages Walk into a Bar”John’s NYT piece, “How Hip-Hop Became America’s Poetry”Oliver Anthony’s song, “Rich Men North of Richmond”Jason Aldean’s song, “Try That in a Small Town”Donald Trump’s mugshotSabrina Salvati’s YouTube channelCarol Swain’s recent TGS episodeCarol Swain’s book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African Americans in CongressDinesh D’Souza’s film, 2000 MulesCarol Swain’s PragerU videos This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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0:00 Why Carol joined Black Voices for Trump9:59 Why should black people support Trump?16:31 Carol: Democrats stole the 2020 election26:07 Does Trump face a credible assassination threat?30:35 The redefinition of white supremacy35:51 Deracializing the crime debate39:58 Carol’s new book, The Adversity of Diversity: How Real Training Can Promote Healing in a Post-Affirmative Action World50:55 Glenn: Affirmative action is one thing, DEI is another1:04:54 Clarence Thomas v. Ketanji Brown Jackson1:08:06 What affirmative action did rightRecorded August 26, 2023Links and ReadingsCarol and Mike Towle’s new book, The Adversity of Diversity: How Real Training Can Promote Healing in a Post-Affirmative Action WorldCarol’s Godfather III Twitter (now X) postReuters story on Harrison FloydJason Riley’s book, The Black BoomTucker Carlson’s debate night interview with Donald TrumpCarol’s book, The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to IntegrationCarol and Christopher J. Schorr’s book, Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 A sixteen-year-long conversation5:45 Race and socioeconomics on the cusp of the Obama Era21:19 The myth of black poverty and deindustrialization32:56 Glenn pulls rank37:59 Why Glenn changed his mind about the Manhattan Institute50:15 Is the think tank world any more “objective” than academia?Recorded August 19, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s first conversation from November 7, 2007John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaJohn’s book, Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black AmericaGlenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial InequalityMartin Peretz’s memoir, The Controversialist: Arguments with Everyone, Left, Right, and CenterJeffrey O.C. Ogbar’s book, Hip-Hop Revolution: The Culture and Politics of RapCharles Murray’s book, Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Haim’s history with The Glenn Show7:54 How Haim ended up fighting in Ukraine17:42 The legionnaire’s lingua franca27:55 Haim’s riposte to Cornel West on Ukraine42:27 A pen in one hand and a gun in the other47:56 Haim: Ukraine’s sovereignty and national identity must be respected53:34 Is the two-state solution dead?Recorded July 23, 2023Links and ReadingsHaim’s writing for this newsletterHaim’s Substack, The GarlandGlenn’s recent conversation with Cornel WestHaim and Nikita Petrov’s exchange on the Ukraine WarNikita’s Substack, Psychopolitica This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 The protestant ethic and the spirit of wokeness 10:47 Is comparing wokeness to religion a slander on religion? 21:08 Ian: Wokeness is a distraction from real political problems 28:02 How Ian experienced his own cancelation 41:31 America’s exportation of wokeness 45:45 Has wokeness aided and abetted Trump and Brexit? 52:54 John: Enslaved people did find ways to improve their own livesRecorded August 7, 2023Links and ReadingsIan’s Harper’s piece, “Doing the Work”John’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black AmericaJian Ghomeshi’s 2018 NYRB piece, “Reflections from a Hashtag”Tomiwa Owolade’s book, This is Not America: Why Black Lives in Britain MatterDavid Brooks’s NYT oped, “What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?”John’s NYT oped, “One Sentence Does Not Define a Curriculum”The Florida Board of Education’s 2023 standards for social studiesRobert Cherry’s essay on slavery at this newsletter This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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0:00 How Jay’s position on affirmative action changed12:15 Jay: I can’t see the virtue in affirmative action as it’s practiced20:07 Why did so many Asian students defend policies that discriminated against Asians?25:35 The hidden cultural argument in the California Mathematics Framework32:01 Is the “people of color coalition” coming apart?34:55 Why so little outrage over the SCOTUS affirmative action decision?42:26 When students internalize artificial trauma narratives49:06 America can’t economically decouple itself from China. Will anti-China rhetoric wane?55:49 What will and won’t change in the wake of Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard1:05:29 Isn’t there some value to diversity in education?Recorded July 24, 2023Links and ReadingsJay’s New Yorker piece, “Why the Champions of Affirmative Action Had to Leave Asian Americans Behind”Jay’s book, The Loneliest AmericansJay’s podcast with E. Tammy Kim, Time to Say GoodbyeJay’s 2019 New York Times Magazine piece, “Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans?”Jennifer Lee and Min Zhou’s book, The Asian American Achievement ParadoxNatasha Warikoo’s book, Race at the Top: Asian Americans and Whites in Pursuit of the American Dream in Suburban SchoolsThe California Mathematics FrameworkRoland Fryer’s NYT piece, “How to Fix College Admissions Now” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Peter’s role in the Supreme Court affirmative action case8:57 Are legacy admissions affirmative action by another name?19:17 Why Peter got interested in affirmative action24:20 Glenn was for affirmative action before he was against it30:33 Peter: Universities are not honest about admissions34:20 The brilliance of Roland Fryer51:17 Campus diversity after affirmative actionRecorded July 22, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn’s 2020 conversation with PeterPeter’s paper, “What happens after enrollment? An analysis of the time path of racial differences in GPA and major choice”Mary Sue Coleman on the steps of the Supreme CourtJohn’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaRoland Fryer’s paper, “An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force”Federico Echenique and Roland Fryer’s paper, “A Measure of Segregation Based on Social Interactions”David Austen-Smith and Roland Fryer’s paper, “The Economics of ‘Acting White’” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 How Matt first encountered Christopher Hitchens6:07 Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment8:00 Why Matt thinks Cornel West’s Vietnam-Afghanistan analogy is flawed14:21 What’s worth preserving in the left-liberal tradition?21:38 Matt: Identity politics is a “toxin”27:20 Was affirmative action ever necessary?35:29 Matt: I wish the left would rediscover Hitchens’s universalism45:04 Hitchens’s “fearless liberalism”Recorded July 6, 2023Links and ReadingsMatt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-EnlightenmentHitchens’s NYRB review of Douglas Murray’s Bosie: A Biography of Lord Alfred DouglasHitchens’s book, Why Orwell MattersGeorge Orwell’s book, Keep The Aspidistra FlyingGlenn’s recent conversation with Cornel WestMatt’s Quilette essay on John MearsheimerMatt’s Quillette essay on Bayard RustinJonathan Eig’s King: A LifeNathan Glazer’s book, Affirmative Discrimination: Ethnic Inequality and Public PolicyRoland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”Glenn’s debate with HitchensTa-Nehisi Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”Bayard Rustin’s 1965 Commentary essay, “From Protest to Politics: The Future of the Civil Rights Movement”Norman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomGlenn’s conversation with Norman Finkelstein This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 John: Let’s be honest about what “taking race into account” means in affirmative action10:09 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?19:29 Why are we so focused on elite institutions?24:32 John: The University of California works just fine without “racial preferences”30:28 “You’re pulling the ladder up behind you” is an invalid critique35:00 John: The fact that racism exists does not justify changing standards44:04 Why Roland Fryer thinks we should put our money where our mouth is on race and education51:04 Will the post-Students for Fair Admissions future turn into a “Hardship Olympics”?Recorded July 8, 2023Links and ReadingsZachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action, Mismatch, and Economic Mobility after California’s Proposition 209”Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action and Its Race-Neutral Alternatives”The Supreme Court opinions in Students for Fair Admissions v. HarvardJohn’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaJohn’s NYT piece, “On Race and Academia”Roland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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0:00 The problem with scientific consensus6:36 Why Jay and his colleagues were branded “fringe epidemiologists”15:52 Jay: We need to engage with everyone—even those with mistaken beliefs25:55 Persuading science skeptics36:04 How do we stop COVID overreach from happening again?46:38 Jay: Gain-of-function research is impossible to do safely55:03 Are some ideas too dangerous to test?59:30 Jay: Fauci’s blunder was so catastrophic that only history can judge himRecorded June 23, 2023Links and ReadingsRav Arora and Jay’s newsletter, The Illusion of ConsensusDoris Kearns Goodwin’s book, Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham LincolnThe Great Barrington DeclarationSteve Koonin’s book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Asks Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It MattersSteve Koonin’s TGS appearanceTjalling Koopman’s, Three Essays on the State of Economic ScienceEmily Oster’s Atlantic piece, “Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty”The Norfolk Group DocumentGlenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”Richard Feynman demonstrates flaws in Challenger’s O-ringsRoger Shattuck’s book, Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Why Cornel is running for president10:45 How Cornel links American militarism abroad and inequality at home15:15 Cornel’s pitch to skeptical right-of-center voters20:30 Is there tension between Cornel’s commitment to stopping climate change and his commitment to helping the working class?33:50 The moral potential and pitfalls of capitalism37:34 Might Cornel inadvertently hand the election to the Republicans?41:44 Cornel: Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas are wrong, but they’re sincere46:06 Why Cornel thinks the US is partially culpable for the Ukraine War52:04 Should Palestinians recognize the legitimacy of the State of Israel?1:00:23 Cornel’s ideas about the US borderRecorded on June 16, 2023Links and ReadingsCornel’s campaign websiteCornel’s TGS appearance with Teodros KirosGlenn and Richard Wolff debate capitalism and socialismCornel and Robert George on PBS’s Firing LineSteve Koonin’s TGS appearanceErnesto Cortes’s TGS appearanceBenjamin Schwartz and Christopher Layne’s Harper’s essay, “Why Are We in Ukraine?” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

The following bonus episode was previously available only to paying Substack subscribers. We’re now releasing it to the public. 0:00 Identitarianism in the medical profession5:13 The (exaggerated) psychiatric toll of Covid7:31 Why were psychiatrists publicly diagnosing Trump?12:29 Sally’s quest for a kidney donor23:30 How the kidney donation system works and why it doesn’t29:30 The ethics of selling a kidney34:42 Can we put a price on the human body?43:44 Would paying donors exploit the poor?48:17 Is paid kidney donation a political possibility?53:12 The roadblocks facing paid kidney donationLinks and ReadingsSally’s book, P.C., M.D.: How Political Correctness Is Corrupting MedicineChristina Hoff Sommers and Sally’s book, One Nation Under Therapy: How the Helping Culture is Eroding Self-ReliancePeter Kramer and Sally’s 2017 NYT op-ed, “Who Decides Whether Trump Is Unfit to Govern?”matchingdonors.comLeon Kass’s book, Life, Liberty, and the Defense of Dignity: The Challenge for BioethicsGlenn’s conversation with Michael SandelMichael Novak’s defense of paid kidney donation in First ThingsSally’s book, When Altruism Isn’t Enough: The Case for Compensating Kidney DonorsSally’s New York Times Magazine piece, “Desperately Seeking a Kidney”Sally’s website This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Why Jonathan’s course “Culture in America” got canceled 9:07 The fragility of liberal arts education 17:24 Managing “CRT zealots” in the classroom 27:44 Is there a future for free inquiry? 35:03 John: Black middle-class students don’t need affirmative action 44:57 Is diversity the problem, or is it elitism? 52:35 The virtues (and virtue signaling) of Randall KennedyRecorded June 17, 2023Links and ReadingsAlex Morey and Nadine Strossen’s FIRE article about Jonathan, “Who’s Allowed to Teach ‘Culture in America’?”Barnard’s Center for Engaged PedagogyJohn’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black AmericaRobin DiAngelo’s book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about RacismCornell Belcher’s book, A Black Man in the White House: Barack Obama and the Triggering of America’s Racial-Aversion CrisisRichard Rothstein’s Atlantic piece, “The Problem with Wealth-Based Affirmative Action”John’s guest post, “Racial Preferences May End, but the Fight Will Continue”Derrick Bell’s book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of RacismGlenn’s City Journal essay, “Affirmative Distraction”Randall Kennedy NYT guest essay, “The Truth Is, Many Americans Just Don’t Want Black People to Get Ahead”Randall Kennedy’s Atlantic essay, “My Race Problem”Randall Kennedy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the LawRandall Kennedy’s book, Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome WordJohn McWhorter and Randall Kennedy on The Glenn ShowJohn’s 2008 Bloggingheads conversation with Randall Kennedy This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Bob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope7:02 Bob: “Liberals have given up” on changing black family dynamics15:02 Two-parent families are preferable, but single-parent families need help22:01 Do children help women organize their lives more effectively than men?29:14 Is community college helping or hurting young black men?38:38 How Bob thinks police and communities should deter violence45:42 Work requirements with a human face56:04 The moderate’s dilemmaRecorded May 4, 2023Links and ReadingsBob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering HopeDaniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National ActionHerbert Gutman’s book, The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925Lawrence Mead’s book, Beyond Entitlement: The Social Obligations of CitizenshipLawrence Mead on TGS This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Inside the mind of a crack columnist4:19 The blowback from Norman Finkelstein’s TGS appearance15:27 Is it enough to be a “happy warrior” for your cause?28:45 How did MLK become MLK?37:37 What’s in a name when that name is “Woodrow Wilson”?49:10 Glenn: “Clarence Thomas’s name should be on public school buildings”Recorded May 30, 2023Links and ReadingsJohn’s NYT archiveNorman Finkelstein on TGSNorman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomJonathan Eig’s new biography of Martin Luther King, King: A LifeJonathan Eig’s biography of Muhammad Ali, Ali: A LifeCharles Johnson’s novel, Middle PassageCharles Johnson’s novel, DreamerReza Aslan’s new book, An American Martyr in Persia: The Epic Life and Tragic Death of Howard BaskervillePBS’s Frontline documentary, Clarence and Ginni This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Charles’s argument for emphasizing education over systemic racism5:21 Donique: Teaching African American history doesn’t require critical race theory15:36 Charles: We are the 97%!18:48 How Donique balances oppression and triumph in black history24:02 What does Florida’s Stop WOKE Act actually say?33:30 What’s wrong with integrating LGBT history and black history?44:19 Sexuality’s ever-shifting Overton window49:40 Why Donique, a public school teacher, advocates for homeschooling54:30 Expanding the canon of historic black figuresRecorded April 10, 2023Links and ReadingsCharles’s podcast, Cut the BullSeeking Educational ExcellenceThe Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites projectPutting the Pieces TogetherIan Rowe’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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0:00 John: “I love linguistics, but it no longer loves me”9:44 How Glenn and John are getting written out of their fields19:27 Jordan Neely didn’t deserve to die …27:28 … but the New York subway is getting scary37:45 Glenn: Reparations would be “impractical, unfair, and divisive in the extreme”50:50 A possible left-wing objection to reparations57:22 Glenn goes ham on reparationsRecorded May 18, 2023Links and ReadingsSteven Pinker’s book, The Language Instinct: How the Mind Creates LanguageJohn’s book, Talking Back, Talking Black: Truths about America’s Lingua FrancaJohn’s book, Word on the Street: Debunking the Myth of “Pure” Standard EnglishJohn’s language podcast, Lexicon ValleyJohn, Our Magnificent B*****d Tongue: The Untold History of EnglishJohn’s NYT piece about Jordan Neely, “A Killing on the F Train”Ta-Nehisi Coates’s 2014 Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”Matthew Desmond’s book, Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American CityMatthew Desmond’s new book, Poverty, by AmericaGlenn’s conversation with Norman FinkelsteinAugust Wilson’s play, Two Trains Running This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Why YouTube censored a TGS episode6:25 How can YouTube justify censoring matters of opinion?15:15 Why there’s no such thing as free speech26:00 Nikita’s notes on Substack Notes39:53 Democratizing content moderation46:11 Creating better, community-centered comments sectionsRecorded May 4, 2023Links and ReadingsNikita’s Substack, PsychopoliticaThe censored TGS episode, “I Feel, Therefore I Am”Glenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”Matt Taibbi’s Substack, Racket NewsSubstack NotesGlenn’s most recent conversation with Amy Wax This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Has Norman been shut out of mainstream political debates?7:54 Norman’s conflict with Alan Dershowitz16:50 Is Israel an apartheid state?19:25 Identifying with Paul Robeson33:08 Norman’s new book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It!44:42 Norman: Wokeness is a “triple scam”53:28 What’s become of Angela Davis?1:00:05 Cornel West's chosen path1:09:01 Obama’s self-proclaimed “neat trick”1:24:38 The political intelligence of Carter, Clinton, and Obama1:38:10 South Carolina 2020: a case study in identity politics1:47:24 Would Bernie have won in 2016?Recorded April 19, 2023Links and ReadingsNorman’s new book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic FreedomNorman’s book, The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish SufferingNorman’s book, Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of HistoryNorman’s book, Gaza: An Inquest into Its MartyrdomNorman’s book, A Nation on Trial: The Goldhagen Thesis and Historical TruthNorman’s book, What Ghandi Says: On Nonviolence, Resistance, and CourageNorman’s book, “This Time We Went Too Far”: Truth and Consequences on the Gaza InvasionNorman’s book, Knowing Too Much: Why the American Jewish Romance with Israel is Coming to an EndNorman’s book, The Rise and Fall of Palestine: A Personal Account of the Intifada YearsJoan Peters’s book, From Time Immemorial: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over PalestineAlan Dershowitz’s book, The Case for IsraelAlan Dershowitz and Norman’s debate on Democracy NowMichael Barnett, Nathan Brown, Marc Lynch, and Shibley Telhami’s Foreign Affairs piece, “Israel’s One-State Reality”Paul Robeson singing “The Four Insurgent Generals”The Letters of Rosa LuxembourgMark Doss performing “Ol’ Man River”Paul Robeson’s autobiography, Here I StandW.E.B. Du Bois’s book, The Philadelphia NegroW.E.B. DuBois’s book, Black Reconstruction in America, 1860-1880Tom Wolfe’s New York Magazine essay, “Radical Chic: That Party at Lenny’s”Angela Davis’s 2022 appearance at the University of South CarolinaBarack Obama’s memoir, A Promised LandBill Clinton’s memoir, My LifeJimmy Carter’s memoir, Keeping FaithDavid Axelrod’s memoir, Believer: My Forty Years in PoliticsFrederick Douglass’s third autobiography, Life and Times of Frederick Douglass This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

In this week’s episode, John and I return to a familiar character: Omar. For those of you unfamiliar with “Omar,” he’s our invented surrogate for the kind of young black man whose behavior is wreaking havoc on Chicago and St. Louis. Omar is economically disadvantaged. He was more than likely raised by a single mother. He underperforms academically, and he may have dropped out of high school. He’s involved in illegal activity of one sort or another. If there is some kind of large-scale disorderly event, you’ll likely find Omar there. After a discussion of Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News, John and I spend most of the episode talking about Omar: what made him who he is, why he acts the way he does, and what, if anything, can make him change. John has little sympathy for structural explanations for Omar’s behavior. According to John, culture makes Omar who he is, not the history of American racism, not implicit bias, and not even a supposed lack of legitimate jobs. I play devil’s advocate, raising some objections you might hear from sociologists or historians, but in truth, I find John’s reasoning pretty persuasive. To couch it in my own framework, the bias narrative just doesn’t cut it. And to those of you wondering if I have anything more to say about YouTube’s removal of my conversation with John and Mark Goldblatt: I sure do. I’ve recorded an episode with my creative director Nikita Petrov in which we discuss censorship, YouTube, and why we’re sticking with Substack. Stay tuned. This post is free and available to the public. To receive early access to TGS episodes, an ad-free podcast feed, Q&As, and other exclusive content and benefits, click below.Featured Content from City JournalHad he been in treatment, Jordan Neely’s death in a subway car may have been prevented, writes Stephen Eide.0:00 Glenn mounts a defense of Tucker Carlson13:44 Glenn: “Race relations will not get better through denial”24:37 What historical conditions created Omar?36:24 John: Omar is not the result of white neglect45:16 John’s critique of structural explanations of Omar54:14 What will happen to Tucker? 55:40 Why you should become a paying subscriber Links and Readings The NYT’s story on Tucker Carlson’s “it’s not how white men fight” textJohn’s book, Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black AmericaWilliam Julius Wilson’s book, The Truly Disadvantaged: The Inner City, the Underclass, and Public PolicyWilliam Julius Wilson’s book, When Work Disappears: The World of the New Urban PoorWilliam Julius Wilson’s book, The Declining Significance of Race: Blacks and Changing American InstitutionsThomas Sugrue’s book, The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Race and Inequality in Postwar DetroitJason DeParle’s book, American Dream: Three Women, Ten Kids, and a Nation’s Drive to End WelfareFrantz Fanon’s book, The Wretched of the EarthFrantz Fanon’s book, Black Skin, White MasksPhilip Roth’s novel, American Pastoral This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Heather’s new book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens Lives8:20 Are racial disparities in medical school the result of racism or skills gaps?20:03 Do we really know what causes racial disparities?32:23 Closing racial achievement gaps begins at home40:39 Will black doctors necessarily provide better care to black patients?50:26 Canceling Western art1:00:37 Heather: Colonialism cannot explain the development of art1:05:21 The stupidity of arguments against “cultural appropriation”1:18:24 Heather: Lack of policing is a civil rights problem1:29:43 Is it possible for a cop to get a fair trial?1:34:40 Race and the future of progressive DAsRecorded April 16, 2023Links and ReadingsHeather’s new book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty, and Threatens LivesStephen Carter’s book, Reflections of an Affirmative Action BabyGlenn’s conversation with Charles MurrayCharles Murray’s book, Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in AmericaJennifer Lee and Min Zhou’s book, The Asian American Achievement ParadoxRonald Ferguson’s learning network, The BasicsPierre Bourdieu’s book, DistinctionHeather’s City Journal essay, “Stirring Sounds”Michelle Alexander’s book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of ColorblindnessMichael Fortner’s book, Black Silent Majority: The Rockefeller Drug Laws and the Politics of PunishmentGlenn’s conversation with Michael FortnerJames Forman Jr.’s book, Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black AmericaFred Siegal’s City Journal essay, “The Riot Ideology, Reborn” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John answer questions from the Substack community.

0:00 Mark Goldblatt’s recent book, I Feel, Therefore I Am: The Triumph of Woke Subjectivism10:55 Wokeism’s roots in postmodern thought15:05 The “mysticism” of woke thinking17:44 Learning from Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations26:29 John breaks his silence on transgender issues35:13 The political consequences of subjectivism41:46 Why Mark thinks transgender people are mentally disordered50:07 What does the T have to do with the LGB?58:09 Mark: Transgender people deserve respect1:02:39 Distinguishing between strategy and realityLinks and ReadingsMark’s book, I Feel Therefore I Am: The Triumph of Woke SubjectivismMatt Yglesias’s Vox essay, “The Great Awokening”A clip from Glenn’s recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 The gigification of academia8:26 Is education just another commodity?18:14 What do historians do?26:22 Daniel: The university system is an unregulated cartel35:08 The liberalism (not the leftism) of the university38:22 Using (and getting used by) new technology43:19 An alternate history of global economic development47:29 The end of the American century54:27 Daniel’s critique of US support for UkraineRecorded February 7, 2023Links and ReadingsDaniel’s NYT op-ed, “The Dangerous Decline of the Historical Profession”Daniel’s TGS mini-series, “Glenn Loury’s Intellectual Origins”Francis Fukuyama’s book, The End of History and the Last ManDaniel’s essay on Fukuyama for the Nation, “A Bad Breakup”Adrianna Kezar, Tom DePaola, and Daniel T. Scott’s book, The Gig Academy: Mapping Labor in the Neoliberal UniversitySamuel Bowles and Herbert Gintis’s book, Schooling in Capitalist America: Educational Reform and the Contradictions of Economic LifeJames Sweet’s column, “Is History History?”Daniel’s Chronicle of Higher Education piece, “The AHA’s Mission Needs to Change”Eugen Weber’s book, Peasants into Frenchmen: The Modernization of Rural France, 1870-1914Daniel’s podcast, American PrestigeDaniel’s Harper’s Harper’s piece, “Empire Burlesque”Daniel’s New Republic piece, “Does American Fascism Exist? This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Al Sharpton’s National Action Network still exists, apparently5:00 MLK’s understanding of America’s contributions to democracy12:58 Are the “people with three names” grifters or merely limited in their racial vision?21:07 How do you change the minds of black voters?30:13 The national black leadership vacuum36:30 The under-recognized success of the black middle class41:30 Ian’s got a four-point plan …47:38 … but what’s the best way to disseminate it? (It’s podcasts.)51:37 The paradox of Obama and Thomas1:01:01 How does Glenn know “nobody is coming to save us”?Recorded April 9, 2023Links and ReadingsIan’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to PowerIan’s charter school network, Vertex Partnership AcademiesAl Sharpton’s National Action NetworkPew poll on black political strategy and leadershipAEI’s study, “Black Men: Making It in America” Richard Reeves’s book, Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about ItThomas Sowell speaking at the 1980 Fairmont ConferenceClarence Thomas’s memoir, My Grandfather’s Son This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 What’s wrong with cancelation?13:28 A defense of Charles Murray21:24 Cancelation and the closet28:08 Jonathan’s book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth39:35 Jonathan: “The marketplace of ideas” is a necessary but insufficient metaphor42:51 Is Trump an agent of disinformation?54:22 What the woke and MAGA crowds have in common59:41 Why Jonathan is hopeful about the constitution of knowledgeRecorded February 6, 2022Links and ReadingsJonathan’s latest book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of TruthJonathan’s book, Kindly Inquisitors: The New Attacks on Free ThoughtCharles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American LifeJeff Gerth’s Four-Party Columbia Journalism Review series on Trump and the pressStanford’s Internet Observatory This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 The disruption of Judge Kyle Duncan’s speech at Stanford Law School9:33 Why did people have a problem with Duncan?13:51 Will the current Supreme Court overturn Obergefell v. Hodges16:37 The necessity of free inquiry and reasoned discourse26:44 What it’s like being a FedSoc conservative at Stanford Law34:30 The fallout from the Duncan protests41:30 The vulgarity of the insults hurled at Duncan50:00 The role of conservatives at StanfordRecorded March 26, 2022Links and ReadingsVideo of Stanford Law School Associate Dean Tirien Steinbach responding to Judge DuncanStanford Law School Dean Jenny Martinez’s letter about the Duncan eventJohn Stuart Mill’s book, On Liberty This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit glennloury.substack.comGlenn and John respond to questions from Substack subscribers.

0:00 John’s recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher7:23 The rigors of the lecture circuit10:29 The difference between equity and equality22:10 How do we know that African Americans are just as smart as everyone else?30:59 The new black bourgeoisie38:33 Standards in the arts are relative. But how relative?51:15 John sets the record straight on his dancing skillsRecorded March 19, 2022Links and ReadingsJohn’s most recent appearance on Real Time with Bill MaherGlenn and John April 14 UATX event in New YorkE. Franklin Frazier’s book, Black Bourgeoisie Glenn and John’s conversation with pseudonymous orchestra conductor Don BatonDon Baton’s Substack, The PodiumGlenn and John’s conversation with actor James BeamanJames Beaman’s Substack, The CornfieldGlenn and John’s conversation with Vincent LloydJohn’s NYT piece, “The High Art of Musical Theater”Walter Murphy’s song, “A Fifth of Beethoven” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

My guest this week is the distinguished physicist Sylvester “Jim” Gates. Jim was my colleague at Brown for years (he’s now at the University of Maryland), and we’re both alumni of MIT. Jim has made pathbreaking contributions to areas of physics that laymen like me can barely understand—he’s a deep, deep guy. He’s also got some thoughts on race and diversity in the sciences that give us an opportunity for some friendly debate. Jim begins by introducing supersymmetry, a subfield in physics he helped to define back in the ‘70s. It’s extremely complex stuff, but he breaks it down. We spend the bulk of our time, though, talking about race in the sciences. Jim stresses the value that diversity plays in an under-recognized aspect of scientific innovation: imagination. In Jim’s view, while tests are important, there are limits to what they can tell us about who is most likely to produce the next big advance in any scientific field, just as there are limits to what tests can tell us about the competency of any given student. He uses himself as an example of a student who was average when he started grad school but managed to transform himself into a cutting-edge researcher. He sees value in giving weight to diversity, and even to continuing affirmative action, but there are limits. He worries, for example, that DEI initiatives classifying basic practices like homework and demanding excellence as “white” are going too far, just as he thinks speakers with unpopular views should be met with debate rather than cancelation. It’s a pleasure to sit down with a scientist as distinguished as Jim Gates. I think you’ll be seeing more of him on The Glenn Show in the future. This post is free and available to the public. To receive early access to TGS episodes, an ad-free podcast feed, Q&As, and other exclusive content and benefits, click below.Featured Content from the Manhattan InstituteImproving our criminal-justice system means spending the requisite money to address America’s horrific and long-standing problem with criminal violence, argue Reihan Salam and Charles Fain Lehman.0:00 What led Jim to the forefront of physics 7:53 Jim explains supersymmetry 11:50 Is there racism in the sciences? 18:12 The role of culture and imagination in the sciences 28:47 The scientific “big bang” in Europe 33:03 How Jim accounts for racial disparities in test scores 49:35 Jim: “Genius” is a verb 54:18 Why Jim worries about DEI and cancelationRecorded February 6, 2023Links and ReadingsClarence Williams’s book, Technology and the Dream: Reflections on the Black Experience at MIT, 1941-1999Jim’s essay, “Equity vs. Excellence: A False Dichotomy in Science and Society”Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific RevolutionsKarl Popper, The Logic of Scientific DiscoveryPhysicist Stephon Alexander’s TGS appearanceStephon Alexander’s book, The Jazz of Physics: The Secret Link between Music and the Structure of the UniverseStephon Alexander’s book, Fear of a Black Universe: An Outsider’s Guide to the Future of Physics This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 John’s awkward run-in at the farmer’s market 5:40 Will people be reading Ibram X. Kendi in 2043? 17:03 Regret, doubt, and going against the tide 28:12 How Glenn and John negotiate their public profiles 40:50 Did Scott Adams deserve to get canceled? 52:47 What’s going on beneath the Scott Adams controversy?Recorded March 5, 2023Links and ReadingsIbram X. Kendi’s Zora Neale Hurston adaptation, Magnolia FlowerMelissa Harris Perry’s radio show, The TakeawayIshmael Reed’s novel, Reckless EyeballingIshmael Reed’s essay collection, Another Day at the Front This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Oded's new book, The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality7:58 How inequality and growth emerged over the course of human history18:52 Breaking free of a 300,000-year-old stagnation cycle27:24 Humanity's phase shift into modernity33:39 Inequality and the formation of institutions44:18 The deep links between geography and institutions50:38 Africa, Asia, and the trials of diversityRecorded January 21, 2023Links and ReadingsOded’s new book, The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Woke religion or woke cult? 8:59 Does suffering confer authority on the sufferer? 12:47 A world without “anti-black domination” 21:27 Is there an alternative to the criminal justice system? 34:42 Domination and the purpose of the university 42:47 How Vincent’s Telluride Association seminar blew up 50:45 The narrowness of the social justice framework 54:14 Glenn and John’s encounters with fans 59:49 Should Black Studies exist?Recorded February 19, 2023Links and ReadingsVincent’s latest book, Black Dignity: The Struggle against DominationVincent’s Compact essay, “A Black Professor Trapped in Anti-Racist Hell”John’s NYT piece, “DeSantis May Have Been Right” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

Glenn Loury & Delano Squires (Blaze Media)0:00 Why Delano is a conservative7:06 Delano’s critique of Raphael Warnock and the “Afristocracy” 19:26 Delano: “The designer is the definer” 27:43 Abortion and black lives41:44 Are abortion rights necessary to protect women’s rights? 47:53 Delano: Government is no substitute for fatherhood53:48 Can we reweave the social fabric?Links and ReadingsDelano’s writing at Blaze MediaThe Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites Black and Married with KidsIan Rowe’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 The “utter horror show” and incompetent policing of the Tyre Nichols killing7:52 The relatively peaceful reaction to the killing15:25 What set off the cops?21:53 Why Peter thinks police units like SCORPION should not be disbanded27:25 Should we get rid of qualified immunity?30:21 Policing and white supremacy40:45 Peter: We on the left have ceded law and order to the Trumpian right46:00 Tyre Nichols’s funeral53:59 John: I disagree with Sharpton, Crump, and Dyson, but they’re sincereLinks and ReadingsVideo of Memphis police officers beating Tyre NicholsAl Sharpton’s eulogy for NicholsBenjamin Crump speaks at Nichols’s funeralOfficial trailer for Spike Lee’s film, Bamboozled This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

0:00 Ernie’s work as an organizer5:45 Tension, polarization, and reconciliation12:49 The drama of organizing18:21 The definition of power27:52 Ernesto’s work getting running water and sewers to border communities31:26 Market activity vs. market ideology41:31 What’s wrong with meritocracy?56:12 Does identitarianism stand in the way of reconciliation?Recorded January 19, 2023Links and ReadingsIndustrial Areas FoundationMy recent debate with Richard WolffArthur Okun’s book, Equality and Efficiency: A Big TradeoffDaniel Bell’s book, The Cultural Contradictions of CapitalismJohn Kenneth Galbraith’s book, American Capitalism: The Concept of Countervailing PowerMichael Sandel’s book, The Tyranny of Merit: What’s Become of the Common Good?Michael Sandel’s book, What Money Can’t Buy: The Moral Limits of MarketsMichael Sandel’s TGS appearanceFranz Fanon’s book, Black Skin, White Masks This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe