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S7 Ep 22(127) S7E22 Is the Gospel Enough?

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Fire Next Time - There is a sadly beautiful part in this work where Baldwin talks about black submissiveness and gentleness and asks how that can be good, or how being like Christ in that way gives him hope of heaven. "What, is heaven just another ghetto then?" Baldwin asks. With this episode, as with "His Stripes and Our Stripes," I don't at all intend to minimize suffering or support the continuing subordination of oppressed groups. Rather, my hope is that this podcast will help you to see that 1) nonviolence is not passive, but active, 2) living one's true self, like the perfect human Jesus Christ, is actually freeing, and 3) our call to Christian living is grounded in the hope of Jesus, not in circumstances, and therefore it is objective and permanent, not fickle and shifting: https://www.amazon.com/Live-Not-Lies-Christian-Dissidents/dp/0593087399/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1612546493&sr=8-1Baucham sermon (I couldn't find the sermon link, but will have his quote at the bottom):My Post "Is the Gospel Enough?": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/is-the-gospel-enoughBearing Our Crosses: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/bearing-our-crossesThe Heavenly Multitude: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-heavenly-multitudeEconomic Pornography and Pet Sins: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/economic-pornography-and-pet-sinsWestern Wealth Through the Bible's Eyes: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/western-wealth-through-the-bibles-eyesThe Comfortable, White Evangelical: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-comfortable-white-evangelicalCT Article: https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2020/june/reflections-from-christian-scholar-on-social-justice-critic.htmlNT Wright The Day The Revolution Began: https://www.amazon.com/Day-Revolution-Began-Reconsidering-Crucifixion/dp/0062334395/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Day+the+Revolution+Began&qid=1606930592&sr=8-1One Orthodox thought on politics at 30 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDuXFLJkDt0&feature=youtu.beReading While Black: https://www.amazon.com/Reading-While-Black-American-Interpretation/dp/083085486X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=reading+while+black&qid=1606930574&sr=8-1Icons of Christ: https://www.amazon.com/Icons-Christ-Biblical-Systematic-Ordination/dp/1481313185/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=icons+of+christ&qid=1606930619&sr=8-1CRT Legislation EpisodeVoddie Baucham Quote: It is so disheartening to see so many pastors and Christians losetheir religion and exchange it for Social Justice. Pastors marchingwith protestors who are members of BLM and marching with Christiansfor Social Justice. But then again, it is not that surprising when weunderstand that the Bible warns us that many will be seduced by falseteaching and godless ideologies. The Bible is no longer the standardfor many Christians. Social Justice is now the new standard.Christians and pastors are marching and protesting the murder ofGeorge Floyd hand in hand with god-haters? Christians and Pastors,who have Bibles are doing this. Why? Do they really care aboutjustice? Or have they bought into the false narrative that is beingpushed by Social Justice Warriors who place people into groups of theoppressors and the oppressed?The Social Justice Movement's answer for sin is redistribution ofpower and wealth. That is why you hear Christian's like Lecrae whosuggest that the solution to sin is the redistribution of power. If weget more black people into positions of power then we can stop racism.Lacrae has just abandoned Biblical Christianity and adopted SocialJustice as the answer for sin. But Lecrae is not the only one doingthis. Countless Christians and Pastors are teaching that the answerto racism is redistribution of power. By the way there is not suchthing as racism. The Bible calls it for what it is, hatred. Justiceis never accomplished by the redistribution of power. Black peoplehave extremely wicked hearts. So to replace a white person withextremely wicked hearts with black person who has the same extremelywicked heart will not fix the sin problem. The same goes for Asiansand Hispanics and all human beings. Humans have extremely wickedhearts,The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: whocan know it? (Jeremiah 17:9)The answer to injustice, murder, crime, etc., is not rioting,protesting, redistribution of power and wealth, or anythi

Jun 29, 202136 min

S7 Ep 21(126) S7E21 {Interview ~ Jacob Linzy of Tasting Anarchy} More Quakers, or Friends with Spiritual Benefits

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/Tasting Anarchy: https://tastinganarchy.com/ Californian in Exile: https://open.spotify.com/show/4GSz0yxdh5wdQ6kvAuDQJB Quaker Consensus Process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF8PABPq8AAWar Tax Resistance: https://nwtrcc.org/Margaret Fell's "Womens Speaking Justified": https://users.wfu.edu/zulick/340/Felltext.htmlThe Fearless Benjamin Lay: https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Benjamin-Lay-Revolutionary-Abolitionist/dp/B074HJKTNT/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=benjamin+lay&qid=1623977960&sr=8-1My episode on Benjamin Lay: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/draft-juneteenth-nonviolence-and-abolitionWaging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/City of Refuge: https://wagingnonviolence.org/series/city-of-refuge/page/2/All Slave-keepers That Keep the Innocent in Bondage, Apostates: https://www.amazon.com/Slave-keepers-That-Innocent-Bondage-Apostates/dp/B08R68BT6C/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=benjamin+lay&qid=1623981654&sr=8-Intro - 0:00Why do Quakers seem to have a clearer prophetic vision than other Christians? 2:15Importance of individual action. 12:30Hearing from God and consensus making 19:00Importance of silence and discerning God's voice. 31:00Do Quakers align with the early church? 41:00How does consensus making work if you must make immediate decisions? 48:30The importance and prominence of sacrifice among Quakers. 58:30Jake's plugs. 77:30 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 28, 20211h 19m

S7 Ep 20(125) S7E20 {Interview - Mary Crauderueff} Who Are Quakers?

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/Quaker Consensus Process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF8PABPq8AAWar Tax Resistance: https://nwtrcc.org/Margaret Fell's "Womens Speaking Justified": https://users.wfu.edu/zulick/340/Felltext.htmlThe Fearless Benjamin Lay: https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Benjamin-Lay-Revolutionary-Abolitionist/dp/B074HJKTNT/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=benjamin+lay&qid=1623977960&sr=8-1My episode on Benjamin Lay: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/draft-juneteenth-nonviolence-and-abolitionWaging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/City of Refuge: https://wagingnonviolence.org/series/city-of-refuge/page/2/All Slave-keepers That Keep the Innocent in Bondage, Apostates: https://www.amazon.com/Slave-keepers-That-Innocent-Bondage-Apostates/dp/B08R68BT6C/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=benjamin+lay&qid=1623981654&sr=8-2 Intro. 0:00Quakers always on the right side of justice? 7:00Quaker history. 10:00Do Quakers fracture less than Protestants? 16:00What makes a Quaker a Quaker? 22:30Quaker consensus making. 26:45Persecution of Quakers. 32:452 Questions. 39:45What hermeneutic allowed Quakers to allow women leaders and oppose slavery before almost all other groups of Christians? 41:30How do Quakers view government in light of its intrinsic use of force? 42:40 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 25, 202147 min

S1 Ep 27(124) S1E27 Rebuttal: Gouge Out Your Eye - Inconsistent Nonviolent Hermeneutics in the Sermon on the Mount

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/I found this by Chad Bird when I was creating this episode, and found it compliments it well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXXhYgQ_l_g Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 23, 20215 min

S2 Ep 27(123) S2E27 Abuse in the Church and the Network of Sins

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/SBC "Preserve the Base" in regard to sexual assault: https://julieroys.com/leaked-audio-sbc-abuse-base/?fbclid=IwAR0MvMxsDY7m3uDFR_wgh0HmX6TsOPaOIvO3tiKj7PcOA15FTFOm2M3HQBwHuckabee's equivalent "preserve the base" quote in regard to President Trump: https://www.npr.org/2016/12/20/506248119/anti-trump-evangelical-faces-backlashDenhollander's "What is a Girl Worth?": https://www.amazon.com/What-Is-Girl-Worth-audiobook/dp/B07XDCXPZ1/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=what+is+a+little+girl+worth&qid=1623969629&sr=8-4John Piper and a network of sins: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/policies-persons-and-paths-to-ruinCan the Religious Right Be Saved?: https://www.russellmoore.com/2016/10/25/can-religious-right-saved/Benjamin Lay Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/draft-juneteenth-nonviolence-and-abolitionConsequentialism: Consequentialism's Consequences in the Real World: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/40-consequentialism-consequentialisms-consequences-in-the-real-world Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 21, 202117 min

S7 Ep 19(122) S7E19 Nonviolence and Abolition: The Curious Case of Benjamin Lay

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Video on Benjamin Lay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv3v9m6PY6cFearless Benjamin Lay: https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Benjamin-Lay-Revolutionary-Abolitionist/dp/0807060984/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+fearless+benjamin+lay&qid=1605836939&sr=8-1All Slavekeepers Apostates: https://www.amazon.com/Slave-Keepers-That-Innocent-Bondage-Apostates-ebook/dp/B088Q5GH7P/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=all+slavekeepers+apostates&qid=1605836920&sr=8-1Wilberforce Prolonged Slavery: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/03/wilberforce-slavery-sierra-leoneNoll on the Civil War: https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Crisis-Steven-Janice-Lectures/dp/1469621819/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mark+noll+civil+war&qid=1605836883&sr=8-1John Woolman: https://metrovoicenews.com/john-woolman-the-conscientious-quaker-who-paved-the-way-for-abolition/Britain paid on debt to slave owners through 2015: https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Britains-Loan-toPay-Off-Slave-Owners-Not-Repaid-Until-2015-20180223-0016.html#:~:text=Her%20Majesty%27s%20Treasury%20recently%20revealed%20that%20British%20taxpayers,that%20were%20formerly%20part%20of%20the%20British%20empire.A little more background on Lay and the Colonies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FALMgWNCXjIConceived in Liberty Volumes 1-4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1933550988/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1XW48KH6KFJ1TFTDRVNPNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 15, 202145 min

S7 Ep 18(121) S7E18 Nonviolent Action: Individual Nonviolence <Replay #20>

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Irresistible Revolution by Shane Claiborne: https://www.amazon.com/Irresistible-Revolution-Updated-Expanded-Ordinary-ebook/dp/B00UF72BAK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=irresistible+revolution&qid=1569093639&s=digital-text&sr=1-1What Would You Do?: https://www.amazon.com/What-Would-John-Howard-Yoder-ebook/dp/B00AAX11H8/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=john+howard+yoder&qid=1569093701&s=digital-text&sr=1-4Pablo Yoder's Testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOdGENdH1foNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 10, 20211h 11m

S7 Ep 17(120) S7E17 Nonviolent Action: Unarmed Civilian Protectors

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/UCP Video: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=unarmed+civilian+protectionCleveland Peacemakers: http://www.clevekids.org/cleveland-peacemakers-alliance/UCP Article: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2018/07/unarmed-civilian-protection-sustainable-peace/UCP Overview: https://worldbeyondwar.org/unarmed-civilian-protection-ucp-a-concise-overview/Peace Stories: https://paxchristi.net/resources/the-peace-stories-blog/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jun 3, 202111 min

S7 Ep 16(119) S7E16 Memorial Day and the Sacrifices of the Nonviolent

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Civil Rights Martyrs: https://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/civil-rights-memorial/civil-rights-martyrsIranian Martyrs: https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/ncri-statements/statement-iran-protest/the-names-of-17-additional-martyrs-of-the-november-2019-uprising-identified-currently-identities-of-828-martyrs-are-known/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 30, 202111 min

S7 Ep 15(118) S7E15 {Interview - Hanna Nation} Learning from Wang Yi and the Chinese House Church

-Intro 0:00-Hannah Intro 3:00-Recap 9:00-Who is Wang Yi? 14:00-Why was Wang Yi arrested? 27:00-Wang Yi's law background and influence 36:00-Eschatology as a guide to action 41:00-Nonviolence and the Chinese church 48:00-Protest for power and control vs. the prophetic role of the church 54:00-Participation in government 60:00-Cross and the landfill analogy of Christian action in the world 67:00-Suffering 72:00-How would China view the U.S. church's reaction to government mandates due to COVID? Persecution or peace? 78:00-Fruit of Spirit and persecution as a call to our own repentance 84:00-Eschatology take 2 91:00-Biggest take away Americans can get from China and Wang Yi 94:30A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/----------------------------------------------------------------------------When the Police Come Knocking: https://www.chinasource.org/resource-library/chinese-church-voices/when-the-police-come-knocking/The Cross and the Landfill: https://www.chinapartnership.org/blog/2019/12/the-cross-and-the-landfill-a-pastoral-letter-from-wang-yiGrace to the City: https://www.amazon.com/Grace-City-Studies-Gospel-China/dp/1954874006/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=grace+to+the+city&qid=1622051838&sr=8-1Church in the Wilderness: https://www.housechurchtheology.com/China Partnership Blog: https://www.chinapartnership.org/blog----------------------------------------------------------------------------Episode on Wang Yi's "My Declaration of Faithful Disobedience": https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/114-s7e11-pastor-wang-yis-my-declaration-of-faithful-disobedienceInterview with Kingdom Women on submission: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/113-s7e10-interview-submission-oppression-and-freedomHis Stripes and Our Stripes - Questioning submission and suffering: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/112-se16-his-stripes-and-our-stripesThe Moral Conundrum of Lying to Save Lives: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-the-moral-conundrum-of-lying-to-save-livesAugustine and Lying: https://share.transistor.fm/s/d89b9cea?preview=true Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 27, 20211h 37m

S7 Ep 14(117) S7E14 Nonviolent Action: The Baltic Way

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Baltic Way: https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/23/baltic-way-30-years-since-the-600-km-human-chain-that-helped-trigger-the-collapse-of-commuDocumentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNEPk007C0EImages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK_xEB7ygS8NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 20, 20216 min

S7 Ep 13(116) S7E13 Nonviolent Action: The People Power Revolution

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logoU.S. and Philippines: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1986-04-28-0220030122-story,amp.htmlImelda's Shoes: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207353/Imelda-Marcos-legendary-3-000-plus-shoe-collection-destroyed-termites-floods-neglect.htmlPhilippines: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2013/02/the-people-power-revolution-continues/Summary: https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/nonviolent-intervention-philippines-during-military-clash-1986Stole Billions: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/07/10bn-dollar-question-marcos-millions-nick-daviesSecond People Power Revolution: https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/look-back-edsa-ii-joseph-estrada-gloria-arroyo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 13, 202117 min

S7 Ep 12(115) S7E12 Nonviolent Action: Iranian Revolution

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logoThe Green Revolution: https://www.eurozine.com/the-green-movement-and-nonviolent-struggle-in-iran/Iranian Revolution: https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/iranian-revolution-1977-1979/Britain and Iran: https://www.e-ir.info/2010/12/02/iran-and-britain-the-politics-of-oil-and-coup-d%E2%80%99etat-after-the-fall-of-reza-shah/Britain and U.S. in Iran: https://apnews.com/article/bcaa9bd7879c7aa8fc8d4fffb6b76915Coup 53: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/angry-tv-film-makers-stop-release-of-lauded-iranian-documentaryMy Independence Day Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/63-se7-imperialism-independence-and-iran Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 7, 202121 min

S7 Ep 11(114) S7E11 Pastor Wang Yi's "My Declaration of Faithful Disobedience"

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/China Partnership's translation: https://www.chinapartnership.org/blog/2018/12/my-declaration-of-faithful-disobedience Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

May 2, 202113 min

S7 Ep 10(113) S7E10 {Interview ~ Kingdom Women} Submission, Oppression, and Freedom

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Abusive Behavior Chart: https://lifering.co/abusive-behavior?fbclid=IwAR3V79rbQXGVH0V24rInI5TiiHYDDfSgvDG0ZjBfpzCWTzyI_I7TMoIL4RUJesus, Meekness, and Nonviolence in Gender Theology: An Introduction: https://kingdomoutpost.org/jesus-meekness-and-nonresistance-in-gender-theology-an-introduction/?fbclid=IwAR3X940gsOkPENDt-gTazR-m0etZOgtybmfqWi-8ZUxMlgd7YJb_N0czd3I Chris Moles and the Peace Works Podcast: http://www.chrismoles.org/podcast?fbclid=IwAR3Qzg0Fumotqh3pMRxKVRpZax3JDzJZCSyIJMjHa-m6WkAgsgNMtwkeTaYDomestic Abuse Intervention Programs: https://www.theduluthmodel.org/wheels/?fbclid=IwAR1N_985pIlwP42LNUfeo0Jh6OBmU8iz8lAu3ouunxthW2eskQT6dkuqfCADomestic Abuse Resources: http://www.chrismoles.org/?fbclid=IwAR3iu9tXjjnN1-ZK7j4p0HxUFdbSHXLv1qKL90dtR4K77_YSa8ZkeLSRWU4The Sexually Healthy Man: https://andrewjbauman.com/?fbclid=IwAR17b9CQ1KsNQcPKYXv1PH_tG48ye40nMnAf-rx3x6eeaj-HRZQItsM7Y1MDivorce in the Old Testament: https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-316-divorce-and-remarriage-in-the-old-testament/The Cross and the Lynching Tree (how the black has modeled the true church, and shows us Jesus through their suffering): https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Lynching-Tree-James-Cone-ebook/dp/B005M1ZIGI/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cross+and+the+lynching+tree&qid=1619574688&sr=8-1 Prophetic Lament: https://www.amazon.com/Prophetic-Lament-Justice-Troubled-Times/dp/0830836942/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=prophetic+lament&qid=1619620205&sr=8-1Learning to Lament with the Psalms: https://sojo.net/articles/troubling-texts-domestic-violence-bible/learning-lament-psalms?fbclid=IwAR02NqCsEfixuSS6c1O7Va5DcRyR4gzr3pYCCpwdoqR_IAZY4n0okkOIDa8Icons of Christ (the best book I think you'll find pushing back against complementarianism): https://www.amazon.com/Icons-Christ-Biblical-Systematic-Ordination/dp/1481313193/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=icons+of+christ&qid=1619617959&sr=8-1--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Foundational Questions & Defining Terms: What does biblical submission mean? Ought we to distinguish submission from obedience?Is there a distinction between the types of submissions referenced in Peter? Do citizens have a deeper call to submission than slaves to masters or wives to husbands (spouse to spouse)? If citizens should biblically submit to a tyrannical and abusive government, and slaves to abusive masters, why shouldn’t one spouse submit to another abusive one?Cultural/Hermeneutical Questions: Do you think there are cultural considerations here? For example, slavery is illegal in the United States, so if someone took you as a slave, my guess is you wouldn’t say we have a biblical obligation to submit to our slave masters. Do you think the call to submission in marriage is cultural, like slavery may be, or do you think the call is free of cultural considerations?From what I’ve read of the early church on divorce, a big part of why they don’t like divorce at all is because they view it as a cutting off of the opportunity for restoration and forgiveness. It’s one of the main reasons we advocate nonviolence, as killing cuts off opportunity for restoration. Is it possible to think that we shouldn’t ever kill even to protect our family, yet divorce to protect our family is fine - or are those two positions logically connected?Practical Questions: Submission in bad situations is hard. What do you think the church could/should do to make biblical submission easier to walk through, especially submission of a spouse in a bad marriage?How would you counsel a woman in an abusive situation in regard to staying with her husband? Would that change if she has children?[Origen quote about husbands not divorcing wife even if she tries to poison him or kills their child]. Do you agree with Origen here? Do you think if there was more stuff like this holding men’s feet to the fire for accountability, that this conversation would be a lot easier and not feel like this is just a tool for women’s oppression? .“Our Savior does not at all permit the dissolution of marriages for any other sin than fornication alone, when detected in the wife….But someone might ask if He allows a man to put away a wife for any other reasons besides her being caught in fornication. For example, what about poisoning [her husband]?Or what if, during the absence of her husband fr

Apr 29, 20212h 8m

S7 Ep 9(112) S7E9 His Stripes and Our Stripes

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Divorce: http://shamelesspopery.com/does-the-bible-permit-divorce-in-the-case-of-adultery/Antenicene Quotes: https://www.amazon.com/Dictionary-Early-Christian-Beliefs-Reference/dp/1565633571/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bercot+early+church&qid=1605121143&sr=8-2Bible, Slavery, and Ultimate Purpose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsIaSL1ChI8&feature=youtu.be Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Apr 29, 202139 min

S7 Ep 8(111) S7E8 Nonviolent Action: Civil Rights

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logoBlinding of Isaac Woodard and start of Civil Rights: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/blinding-isaac-woodard/Civil rights History:https://www.history.com/topics/civil-rights-movement/civil-rights-movement-timeline#:~:text=The%20civil%20rights%20movement%20was%20an%20organized%20effort,late%201940s%20and%20ended%20in%20the%20late%201960sGeorge Wallace:https://townhall.com/columnists/larryprovost/2014/07/11/the-redemption-of-george-wallace-n1860547Daryl Davis: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/18/daryl-davis-black-musician-who-converts-ku-klux-klan-membersWalter Wink's Third Way: https://cpt.org/files/BN%20-%20Jesus%27%20Third%20Way.pdfThe Warmth of Other Suns: https://www.amazon.com/Warmth-Other-Suns-Americas-Migration/dp/0679763880/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+warmth+of+other+suns&qid=1605068742&sr=8-1Cross and the Lynching Tree: https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Lynching-Tree-James-Cone/dp/1626980055/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cross+and+the+lynching+tree&qid=1605067697&sr=8-1The Souls of Black Folk: https://www.amazon.com/Souls-Black-Folk-B-Bois/dp/1505223377/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30W9GVCV4X29Y&dchild=1&keywords=souls+of+black+folk+by+w.e.b.+dubois&qid=1605067740&sprefix=souls+of+black+%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-3The Civil War as a Theological Crisis: https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Crisis-Steven-Janice-Lectures/dp/1469621819/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+civil+war+as+a+theological+crisis&qid=1605067827&sr=8-1Negroes with Guns: https://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Guns-Robert-F-Williams/dp/1614274118/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=negroes+with+guns&qid=1605068366&sr=8-1The Color of Compromise: https://www.amazon.com/Color-Compromise-American-Churchs-Complicity/dp/0310113601/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+color+of+compromise&qid=1605068393&sr=8-2Let Justice Roll Down: https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Roll-Down-John-Perkins/dp/0801018153/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=let+justice+roll+down&qid=1605068420&sr=8-1Jesus and the Disinherited: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Disinherited-Howard-Thurman/dp/0807010294/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38U5EOWF9UQVS&dchild=1&keywords=jesus+and+the+disinherited+by+howard+thurman&qid=1605068462&sprefix=jesus+and+the+disinherit%2Caps%2C205&sr=8-1The Color of Law: https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631494538/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+color+of+law&qid=1605068487&sr=8-1Stamped from the Beginning: https://www.amazon.com/Stamped-Beginning-Definitive-History-National/dp/1568585985/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=stamped+from+the+beginning&qid=1605068499&sr=8-2The End of Policing: https://www.amazon.com/End-Policing-Alex-S-Vitale/dp/1784782920/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+end+of+policing&qid=1605068554&sr=8-1White Like Me: https://www.amazon.com/White-Like-Me-Reflections-Privileged/dp/1593764251/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=white+like+me&qid=1605068629&sr=8-2White Flight: https://www.amazon.com/White-Flight-Atlanta-Conservatism-Politics/dp/0691133867/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=white+flight&qid=1605068641&sr=8-1I Got a Monster: https://www.amazon.com/Got-Monster-Americas-Corrupt-Police/dp/1250221803/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=I+Got+a+monster&qid=1605068669&sr=8-1Heal Us Emmanuel: https://www.amazon.com/Heal-Us-Emmanuel-Reconciliation-Representation/dp/099739840X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=heal+us+emmanuel&qid=1605068701&sr=8-1The N

Apr 23, 202148 min

S7 Ep 7(110) S7E7 Nonviolent Action: WWII

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/*Please excuse the mispronunciation of "Goethe" and the swearingNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logoBonhoeffer the Assassain: https://www.amazon.com/Bonhoeffer-Assassin-Challenging-Recovering-Peacemaking/dp/0801039614/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bonhoeffer+the+assassin&qid=1605067066&sr=8-1Trocme's "Jesus and the Nonviolent Revolution": https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Nonviolent-Revolution-Andr%C3%A9-Trocm%C3%A9/dp/0874869277/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=andre+trocme&qid=1605067086&sr=8-3Lest Innocent Blood Be Shed: https://www.amazon.com/Lest-Innocent-Blood-Be-Shed/dp/0060925175/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=la+chambon&qid=1605067130&sr=8-6City of Refuge Podcast on La Chambon: https://wagingnonviolence.org/series/city-of-refuge/page/2/U.S. turning away Jewish refugees: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-39857056Live not by lies: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/SolhenitsynLies.phpPower of the Powerless: https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/1979/01/the-power-of-the-powerless.pdfSophie Scholl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl#Activities_of_the_White_RoseRosenstrasse: https://labrujulaverde.com/en/2020/09/the-rosenstrasse-protest-when-german-women-saved-their-jewish-husbands-by-confronting-the-nazi-regime/The Optimists Movie: https://comforty.com/theoptimists/watch-movie/Nonviolence against nazis:https://www.sabrangindia.in/article/resisting-nazis-numerous-ways-nonviolence-occupied-europeBulgaria: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-bulgaria-saved-its-jews-from-nazi-concentration-camps/2013/05/08/e866bdda-8cb1-11e2-9838-d62f083ba93f_story.htmlMore Bulgaria: https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/09/20/the-unheard-story-bulgarias-rescue-of-50000-jews-during-the-holocaust/#:~:text=What%E2%80%99s%20lesser%20known%20is%20the%20story%20of%20the,about%20%5Bthis%5D%20rescue%20for%20a%20very%20simple%20reason.Apotheosis of Washington:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_WashingtonDenmark: https://www.history.com/news/wwii-danish-jews-survival-holocaustMore Denmark: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24427637Norway: https://crosssection.gns.wisc.edu/2019/11/11/norwegian-civil-resistance-of-the-nazi-occupation-1940-1945/Netherlands: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/2/1923412/-The-February-Strike-When-the-Dutch-Struck-Against-the-Nazi-HolocaustLa Chambon: https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-town-admits-to-saving-jews-1.524653Bonhoeffer Episode 1: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se3-bonhoefferBonhoeffer Episode 2: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/47-se5-bonhoeffer-pacifist-or-assassin Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Apr 15, 20211h 5m

S7 Ep 6(109) S7E6 Guns would have stopped the Holocaust

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_noss3 Arrows Youtube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfHXJRqq-qoBonhoeffer Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se3-bonhoefferBonhoeffer Episode 2: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/47-se5-bonhoeffer-pacifist-or-assassinBehind the Bastards: https://tunein.com/embed/player/t157971485/Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment*They Thought They Were Free: Amazing book which highlights how the German citizenry was largely the force behind subduing the Jews initially. This is such a good book and shows the perspective of a number of Germans who are interviewed. - https://www.amazon.com/They-Thought-Were-Free-1966-05-19/dp/B01FKSNOSG/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=they+thought+they+were+free&qid=1617937620&sr=8-3Ordinary Men: Another great book which looks at how many who were doing the killing of Jews were ordinary men. - https://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution-ebook/dp/B01G1F0F84/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ordinary+men&qid=1617937816&sr=8-1Radiolab, Race, and the NRA: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wnyc/radiolab-presents-more-perfect/e/51801511Loaded: A Disarming History of the 2nd Amendment: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=loaded+a+disarming+history&ref=nb_sb_noss_2Beating Guns: https://www.amazon.com/Beating-Guns-People-Weary-Violence/dp/158743413X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=beating+guns&qid=1603157397&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Apr 9, 202127 min

S7 Ep 5(108) S7E5 Nonviolent Action: Gahndi's Salt March

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUSatyagraha: https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2020/10/satyagraha-gandhi-civil-disobedience-nonviolent-resistance-jonathan-english.htmlGandhi's Strategies: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2017/03/gandhi-strategy-success/How Gandhi Won: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2014/10/gandhi-win/Learning from Gandhi's Errors: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2019/10/can-we-celebrate-gandhis-achievements-while-also-learning-from-his-errors/Solzhenitsyn's "Live Not By Lies": http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/SolhenitsynLies.phpHavel's "Power of the Powerless": http://mrdivis.yolasite.com/resources/Vaclav%20Havel's%20Power%20of%20the%20Powerless.pdfNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Apr 1, 202146 min

S7 Ep 4(107) S7E4 Nonviolent Action: The American Revolution

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUJohn Adam's Quote: https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/adams-the-works-of-john-adams-vol-10-letters-1811-1825-indexes#lf1431-10_head_083Nonviolent History of U.S: http://jameslawsoninstitute.org/2017/07/30/920/"Recovering Nonviolent History": https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Recovering-Nonviolent-History-Full-Text.pdfTax rates in the colonies vs. Britain: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/what-we-get-wrong-about-taxes-american-revolutionMyth of Christian America course (free trial available): https://thehistoricfaith.com/courses/myth-of-christian-america/ NonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Mar 25, 20211h 1m

S7 Ep 3(106) S7E3 Nonviolent Action: Antiquity

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Victories Without Violence: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.63305Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Video on history of Pilate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8s8fMMEuiAJewish Rebellions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_WarWhy Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_nossErica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logo Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Mar 17, 202129 min

S7 Ep 2(105) S7E2 Nonviolent Action: Reasons Why Civil Resistance Works

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Erica Chenoweth TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSehRlU34w&feature=emb_logoWhy Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_noss Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Mar 11, 202127 min

S7 Ep 1(104) S7E1 Nonviolent Action: The Role of Fear in Violence

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUNonviolenceL 25 Lessons: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolence-Lessons-History-Dangerous-Chronicles/dp/0679643354/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolence+25&qid=1607126298&sr=8-1Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ New Tactics: https://www.newtactics.org/Nonviolent Action: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Action-Christian-Demands-Christians/dp/1587433664/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=nonviolent+action&qid=1603136228&sr=8-1 Is There No Other Way: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.amazon.com/There-No-Other-Way-Nonviolent/dp/1893163164/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Is+There+No+Other+Way&qid=1603136269&sr=8-1Walter Wink: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Walter+Wink&ref=nb_sb_noss Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Mar 3, 202127 min

S6 Ep 11(103) S6E11 John Howard Yoder's Sexual Assaults

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUThe Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusHauerwas Responds to Yoder's Sexual Assault: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvVZ2duVGk Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Feb 25, 202119 min

S6 Ep 10(102) S6E10 Means and Ends: The Vacuous Facade of Legislation

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUBradley Mason's CRT Series [Part 3]: https://thefrontporch.org/2020/07/the-christian-and-critical-race-theory-part-3-a-bridge-dr-derrick-bell/Preston Sprinkle talks about dismissing CRT's methodology while recognizing the problems it legitimately points out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAalg-yhR_M"Unbelievable" podcast episode on CRT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbzPDoEgO_s"Cynical Theories" explores the problems with critical theory taken to its full, logical end: https://www.amazon.com/Cynical-Theories-Scholarship-Everything-Identity_and/dp/1634312023/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=cynical+theories&qid=1602772561&sr=8-2Political Changes to the American Westminster Confession 1788: https://opc.org/documents/WCF_orig.htmlResponse to SBC statement on CRT: https://www.baptiststandard.com/opinion/other-opinions/commentary-where-i-stand-on-the-statement-by-sbc-seminary-presidents/Romans 13 Episode 1: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13Romans 13 Episode 2: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13-part-2Abstention Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se2-abstention-from-political-idolatry Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Feb 17, 202155 min

S6 Ep 9(101) S6E9 Means and Ends: Riots and Civil Disobedience

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/?fbclid=IwAR1KL57kqq5u7krqY37PKZ3weazk1yELVXGYwLC9asL01QjrjFvyFrjXoZUCamden New Jersey's Story: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-city-disbanded-its-police-force-here-s-what-n1231677Costa Rican Military: https://www.costarica.org/facts/military/The End of Policing: https://www.amazon.com/End-Policing-Alex-S-Vitale/dp/1784782920/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=the+end+of+policing&qid=1602709756&sr=8-2Behind the Bastards Police Series (Multiple Episodes): https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/behind-the-bastards/e/71156966 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Feb 11, 202120 min

S6 Ep 8(100) S6E8 Means and Ends: Spanking [PART 2]

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Shepherding a Child's Heart [Pro-Spanking]: https://www.amazon.com/Shepherding-Childs-Heart-Tedd-Tripp/dp/0966378601/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=shepherding+a+child%27s+heart&qid=1597687196&sr=8-1Corporal Punishment in the Bible [Anti-Spanking]: https://www.amazon.com/Corporal-Punishment-Bible-Redemptive-Movement-Hermeneutic-ebook/dp/B005HHTGMO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=corporal+punishment+in+the+Bible&qid=1597687185&sr=8-1The Spanking Debate is Over: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201802/the-spanking-debate-is-overTeaching Children Peacemaking: http://www.roadofpeace.com/why-do-we-use-violence.html Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Feb 3, 202130 min

S6 Ep 7(99) S6E7 Means and Ends: Spanking [PART 1]

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Shepherding a Child's Heart [Pro-Spanking]: https://www.amazon.com/Shepherding-Childs-Heart-Tedd-Tripp/dp/0966378601/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=shepherding+a+child%27s+heart&qid=1597687196&sr=8-1Corporal Punishment in the Bible [Anti-Spanking]: https://www.amazon.com/Corporal-Punishment-Bible-Redemptive-Movement-Hermeneutic-ebook/dp/B005HHTGMO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=corporal+punishment+in+the+Bible&qid=1597687185&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jan 28, 202125 min

S6 Ep 6(98) S6E6 Means and Ends: Fire with Fire

A huge thanks to Seth White for the music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Texas Church Shooting: https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-church-shooting-man-take-out-gunman-west-freeway-churchThe Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesus Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jan 22, 202128 min

S6 Ep 5(97) S6E5 Means and Ends: A Church Father, a Progressive Minority, and a Conservative Calvinist Walk into a Bar...

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusStrength to Love by MLK: https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Love-Martin-Luther-King-ebook/dp/B07MYL8MDS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1JM3AS2JCBQT9&dchild=1&keywords=martin+luther+king+jr+books&qid=1589657344&sprefix=martin+luther+king+jr%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-4Black man converts over 200 KKK members: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robesBonhoeffer the Assassin: https://www.amazon.com/Bonhoeffer-Assassin-Challenging-Recovering-Peacemaking-ebook/dp/B00FOWLXVY/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bonhoeffer+the+assassin&qid=1589657127&sr=8-1God and Nonviolence: Creedal Theology and Christian Ethics: https://www.academia.edu/5671308/God_and_Nonviolence_Creedal_Theology_and_Christian_EthicsIrenaeus Quote: https://carm.org/irenaeus-heresies5-1-18Oliphant's "Covenental Apologetics:" https://www.amazon.com/Covenantal-Apologetics-Principles-Practice-Defense-ebook/dp/B00DOG44SQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=oliphant+covenantal+apologetics&qid=1589657099&sr=8-1Adolfo Esquivel: https://mettacenter.org/definitions/gloss-concepts/principled-nonviolence/ Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jan 14, 202142 min

S6 Ep 4(96) S6E4 Means and Ends: Purposing

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Purposer --(purpose)--> Instrument --(action)--> GoalGod's Equation: Purposer (God) ----> Instrument (Humanity) ---> Goal (Glorifying God in Loving Community)​Self-Purposing Equation: Purposer (Humanity) ---> Instrument (Whatever We Choose) ---> Goal (Self-fulfillment and Pleasure)The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusMy Written Article: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-impossibility-of-creating-self-purposeOther Thoughts on Purpose: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/meaningpurpose Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jan 8, 202128 min

S6 Ep 3(95) S6E3 Means and Ends: The Politics of Jesus [Part 3]

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusJesus for President: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-President-Politics-Ordinary-Radicals/dp/0310278422/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jesus+for+president&qid=1608117426&sr=8-1The Upside Down Kingdom: https://www.amazon.com/Upside-Down-Distinguished-Professor-Emeritus-Kraybill/dp/1513802496/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+upside+down+kingdom&qid=1608117461&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Jan 1, 202124 min

S6 Ep 2(94) S6E2 Means and Ends: The Politics of Jesus [Part 2]

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusJesus for President: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-President-Politics-Ordinary-Radicals/dp/0310278422/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jesus+for+president&qid=1608117426&sr=8-1The Upside Down Kingdom: https://www.amazon.com/Upside-Down-Distinguished-Professor-Emeritus-Kraybill/dp/1513802496/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+upside+down+kingdom&qid=1608117461&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Dec 25, 202029 min

S6 Ep 1(93) S6E1 Means and Ends: The Politics of Jesus [Part 1]

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=the+politics+of+jesus&qid=1589237437&sr=8-3My Summary of "The Politics of Jesus": https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/politics-of-jesusJesus for President: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-President-Politics-Ordinary-Radicals/dp/0310278422/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jesus+for+president&qid=1608117426&sr=8-1The Upside Down Kingdom: https://www.amazon.com/Upside-Down-Distinguished-Professor-Emeritus-Kraybill/dp/1513802496/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+upside+down+kingdom&qid=1608117461&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Dec 18, 202033 min

S1 Ep 27(92) S1E27 The Fourth Way

A huge thanks to Seth White for the music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/ Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Dec 14, 202019 min

S5 Ep 13(91) S5E13 SOTM: Pearl

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Pearl To those who know not life, our death is vainMoonshine muscled into our very soulsBut they can't see truth of what they disdainThese pearls in mud in which the pig wallows Ungulates can't know supernaturalNor can minds fathom the depths of the seaUnless God overcomes the rationalChanging dumb asses to talking donkeys To all those who have wisdom let them hearBefore us there stands a pearl of great priceTwo choices lay ahead, the first is fearSecond, sell all you have for Paradise Kingdoms of Earth and Gates of hell will failWhile pearly Gates of conquered will prevail [Mt. 7:6] This refers to the foolishness of the Christian life. To the world, the Christian’s sacrifice and way is foolish. In the first line I say “our death is” rather than “our deaths are” to emphasize the unity and oneness of the Christian life and aim. However, in the next line I will separate this to emphasize that we are still individuals (souls). Moonshine here can mean three things. 1) They think we’re drunk and intoxicated on religion, like those on the day of Pentacost believed about the Christians. 2) They think our religion is “moonshine,” or craziness. We are ignorant fools. 3) What we are selling is crazy. We’re liars. We’re snake oil salesmen. This is somewhat like setting up Lewis’s “Lord, Liar, Lunatic” example, though without the Lord part. The world believes that this stupidity we believe has muscled its way into our lives – either by force or by massage, by necessity or by brainwashing over time. This idea of “muscle” is also a word play on “mussel,” which are the freshwater variant of the bivalve which forms pearls. In this sense I am alluding to the idea that the pearls created in us are pearls from streams of living water (fresh, running water) – a significant image in the New Testament and early church for the life of Christ in us. This is an obvious allusion to where Matthew talks about throwing our pearls before swine. The pearls of a Christian’s life and wisdom mean nothing to a lost world. Our pearls are muddied by the world, and the beasts cannot recognize their splendor and worth. This use of swine may also have a deeper meaning in Matthew, and it certainly does as I use it. Pigs are one of the few (maybe only, I’m not sure) animals which appear clean on the outside (cloven hooved) but are not clean on the inside (don’t chew their cud). Without a close inspection of swine, nobody would ever know they were unclean by their appearance. Often times it is the same way with the wise/fool, believer/unbeliever, etc. I carry on with the theme of beasts and pigs in two ways. First, I refer to “ungulates,” which are just hoofed animals. Second, I use the word “supernatural.” In the middle of this word we find the Latin “perna,” which is the word from which “pearl” gets its name. “Perna” means “leg” in Latin, and pearls come from this word because the creatures which form pearls were seen as being in the shape of a leg (a pig or sheep leg). This line, then, emphasizes the beast and pig reference. The beasts can’t understand the depths of the sea where pearls come from, so how could they understand the supernatural pearls? Here I use “fathom” as a double reference, both to mean “comprehend” as well as to emphasize the depths of the sea, as “fathom” is a unit of large measurement in the ocean depths. But if God couldn’t give beasts understanding, who then could be saved? We know that God can work in beasts, for we’ve seen it done. He made Balaam’s donkey speak, and he made Nebuchadnezzar dumb like an animal, and then normal again. God can give understanding and blindness. If he can give animals understanding, certainly he can bring about humility and understanding in dumb asses. I of course mean “dumb asses” here in the technical sense of non-verbal donkeys and by no means am stooping to vulgarity in a double entendreic way😉 “Pearl of great price” is a name Jesus gives to the Kingdom of God in Matthew 13. When we come across a pearl of great price, we have two options. The first is to ignore or pass up the opportunity due to a fear of the gravity of the choice before you. It is indeed a risk to sell everything . Bu

Dec 11, 202013 min

S5 Ep 12(90) S5E12 SOTM: Jade

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Jade In life the only certainty we getIs that death for each of us is assuredWe, like the gods, insure through jade rabbitOur destiny’s sufficiently ensured But pestle and mortar cannot concoctA cure for pestilence which mortifiesImpending doom, our sacred lives, defrocksAnd minds, in time, to lunacy it drives What can we prize in life's vap'rous glory?Truth - a lowly and humble parapetOur choice, to bay as beasts in furoreOr put truth into our pipes and smoke it Worry not for tomorrow is its ownAnd emperor is seated on his throne [Mt. 6:25-34, 7:7-11]. While jade can have a number of colors, green is the most well known (along with white). Especially in Asia (particularly China), jade was thought of as scholarly and imperial. It could supposedly increase the longevity of your life and heal. The “Jade Rabbit” (or hare) is a shape ancients in the East saw in the moon. If you look it up, you can find the shape of a rabbit who appears to be grinding up substances with a mortar and pestle. This rabbit supposedly mixed the elixir of life for the gods. I reference it here because of the reference to “jade,” but also because jade has an association with nobility and status – which the gods certainly had. We set ourselves up as gods as we seek to immortality the same. The last line with “Destiny” also makes this stanza a nerd reference, as the “jade rabbit” is an exotic weapon in the Destiny franchise of video games. There is a wordplay going on here, as the “pestle” and “mortar” the jade rabbit uses has as its roots “pest” and “mort.” We see these roots come back in “pestilence” and “mortifies.” This isn’t a mere repetition of root words, but rather a juxtaposition of ideas. Whereas the rabbit uses his “pest” and “mort’ to perpetuate life, we see that “pest” and “mort” are the ultimate takers of life. This doesn’t mean that it is the rabbit in the moon that kills us, but rather that placing our hope in such things is the opposite of true life. There are also a lot of things going on just with the word “mortifies” here, as there are a number of definitions coming into play here. In short, it means that it brings about fear (I’m mortified), it brings about decay, and it is death (mortem in Latin is death) to us mortals. The knowledge of our demise, in time, disrobes our vain and lofty beliefs about ourselves. No matter how great someone is in life, they are made equal in death. We stand naked in front of the world with this truth, and it hurts. To dwell on this truth and acknowledge it, in time, can drive us mad. “Lunacy” here is yet another tie-in to the moon which was introduced as our jade rabbit’s home. This is nearly a direct quote from an ancient Chinese poem called “The Old Dust” by Li Bai (or Li Po, or Li Bo). The line referenced is the final line of the poem: “What is there to prize in the life’s vaporous glory?” I only changed it to fit the iambic pentameter of the sonnet format. Bai’s poem is largely about how short our lives are and how the finitude of our lives seems to make them purposeless. So what can we prize in life if everything about our lives is fleeting? Well, it seems the one thing that is not fleeting is truth. What is true now is always true. If it is 10:12 right now, while it won’t always be 10:12, it will always be true that it was 10:12 at the point at which I said it was 10:12. Truth is immutable, though truths about mutable things change as those things grow, age, learn, etc. I could truthfully say that I will be 33 tomorrow, and I could say that each day for about another month. But one day, I must stop saying that because it will no longer be true. The truthfulness of my statements haven’t changed, but my position changes the need for me to recognize a new truth which corresponds to my situation. But as I discussed in line 8, the acceptance of truth, particularly the truth that death is inevitable (and according to Bai, the vanity which comes from this truth), drives us to lunacy. That’s why here I refer to truth as being a low “parapet.” In my mind I’m imagining our lives as like traversing a high, narrow bridge. If truth is our guiding purpose, it’s an awfully low parapet to pro

Dec 4, 202012 min

S5 Ep 11(89) S5E11 SOTM: Garnet

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Garnet Can eyes foresee what tattered lives bespeak?Can flesh give some of itself unto life?Or is our mind illumined by what's bleakAnd beings marred and with corruption rife? We see Noah light his path with GarnetA decent man with his family savedYet what came out of the maritime pitWas same broken humanity depraved As in Adam we all enter death’s barqueSo like him through one man we'll all be savedOne who embarked on Messianic ArcDefeated death with life inside the grave The one came from heaven and treasured EarthThat those of Earth could seek the kingdom first [Mt. 6:19-23] Can people see what the lives of the poor and downtrodden evidence? Also, can our eyes foresee what the lives of the poor prophecy about us and our culture if they remain unnoticed and not helped? Can we, through our flesh save another? If we’re all starving and I give of my flesh to be eaten, am I really sustaining a life? Jesus asked a similar question and repulsed quite a lot of people. To eat our flesh and to drink our blood is not life, but death. Unfortunately, we are blind to the poor and downtrodden and our flesh is mortal. We do not have life on the inside. We are the walking dead. One of the only things I was able to find about garnet is that tradition holds it is a stone Noah used to illuminate the ark while on the water. Noah and his family went into a boat for salvation, but came out a still depraved group of people. It didn’t take long for them to exhibit that depravity and create a terrible world. This is why I use the word “pit,” as it not only indicates a literal pit, but it is a word often used as a name for hell. Evil was in Noah and continued after the flood. What came out of the ark was evil. This is a clear reference to Romans. Through Adam and through Christ we inherit curses and blessings. We all enter the same “ship” (or barque) of death. The ship imagery here is reminiscent of the ancient mythology of the passage to the netherworld where you have to pay the toll. “Arc” here has two meanings, one talking about the arc or path of Christ’s life, and the other is a reference back to Noah’s ark. Here we see that Jesus, unlike Noah, exited the pit not depraved, but perfect. He defeated death with his life and exited glorified. It is through this salvation that we have true salvation and hope. Here garnet is also significant because garnet did have some early connections to Christ’s blood because of its deep red color. So like Noah illuminated the ark with garnet, Christ illuminated the tomb with his blood as it provided life and resurrection, and now provides the same for us. With this great salvation we have we have through Christ we should seek the Kingdom first. Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Nov 27, 202010 min

S5 Ep 10(88) S5E10 SOTM: Sapphire

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Sapphire Blue collared workers work to pay the billsWhite collared workers work so they're not blueThe first, harbor of all our social illsSecond, enforcers of what is taboo Day will arrive when our Lord comes againRedeeming blues through SaturnaliaNo more wanting, no more a social planAll clothed with same Sapphired regalia Time is as fleeting as the passions areWhile future’s as sure as where our hope liesIn present, then, we each must work so hardEnsuring passions don’t our hope belie Until day our bridegroom comes to redeemWe mortify our sin, fasting unseen [Mt. 6:16-18] Much myth lies around blue sapphires. I honed in on its representation of royalty and social harmony. I know it’s a generality that blue collared workers make less than white collared workers, and that they work to scrape by. I know because I was a “professional teacher,” and I made less than a number of other lucrative professions like welders, mechanics, etc. I am not at all making a value difference, but a general observation. Blue collared workers tend to be looked down upon because they are generally working to pay rent, food, electricity, etc. Often times the less well-off live more day to day. On the flip side, the white collared workers work to survive as well, but in a different way. The white collared workers who are able to look beyond today recognize that life is vain. As such, they work and work in order to obtain more money, and through money, more things. They work to keep the blues away. This both means that they work to maintain their status and not become blue collared, but even more so, it means they work in order not to become depressed and suicidal. But this materialism is just a vain pursuit meant to numb the pain. Again, my slight on the blue collared isn’t my own position, but from the perspective of the elite. The elite believe that the poor and lower class are where social ills are born and raised. We see this by aversions to immigrants, aversions to the poor, aversions to those in particularly lower-class occupations (e.g. fast food), etc. But ironically, it is the white collared, or upper class who gets to define what taboo means. Obviously their definition is self-serving and perpetuates subjugation of others while perpetuating their own status. We can see this in how white collared crimes and individuals are prosecuted, the length of punishment, etc. We can also readily see that the white collared are no more socially graced, as they are frequently involved in great evils. The white collards are constantly trying to assert power, grab money, and subjugate others, defining what is good and evil, taboo and acceptable. Saturnalia was a festival celebrating the god Saturn. It was a time of great feasting and celebration. In this sense, the merrymaking rids us of the blues, as in sadness. However, Saturnalia was also a time when social classes and distinctions disappeared. As one common example, the masters would serve the slaves dinner first, and slaves could speak freely and critically to their masters. They could also dress like freed people. I use Saturnalia both because I think it is a beautiful depiction of what Christ actually does permanently for those in the Kingdom now, and what he will make permanently for all when he returns, both in terms of our equality and in terms of our partying, banqueting, and feasting. I also use Saturnalia because Saturn is one of the main gods associated with blue sapphire. Also, Christians later used the Christmas celebration to mask Saturnalia and replace a pagan holiday with a sacred one. So interestingly, Christmas is when Christ condescends to the lowest possible form by becoming a poor human born in a stable. He condescends to the blue-collards and lower, thus beginning his plan for redemption of them. There will be no more wanting both in the sense of needs, but also in the sense of envious wanting, like that found in materialism. We will have all provisions and will share freely, having no need of evil desires or creating social plans to provide for those who are not being provided for. Passions, like time, disappear. They either disappear because they are fickl

Nov 20, 202010 min

S5 Ep 9(87) S5E9 SOTM: Topaz

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Topaz The greed of gold borne in the soul aboundsA voice inside our heads which drives us madOur one goal, to control, always resoundsPride completing endogenous dyad Wealth makes it all too easy to be smugAnd become a bad friend like EliphazOr even worse, wealth fabricates humbugMaking God a servant to our topaz So heed the words of him with golden mouthNever allow complacency to setFor our God is the Lord of SabaothBefore whom one day all knees will be bent Give your gifts now with generosityAnd learn wherein lies true security [Mt. 6:1-4]. Topaz is a yellow gem which signified wealth and gold and was believed to attract gold to the wearer. There is a double meaning here. First, borne in the soul means what it says, which is that greed is carried by the soul. There is a weight and a marring done to our soul as it carries greed. But greed is also born or formed in our souls. It isn’t what’s on the outside that defiles us, but that which comes from the inside. Greed is not born when we come in contact with gold, but is born on the inside of us. This greed isn’t all that particular to individuals, but it abounds both in terms of who it affects (all people), and in terms of how greatly it affects each of us. The dyad – the two part composition of every human (if you’re a dualist, like most Christians are), begins as pride seeking control. In our arrogance we set ourselves up as gods and believe we are the center of the universe. We ourselves are worth preserving and elevating. In order to accomplish our ascension to divinity, we must have control. We must control not only the environment around us (for both pleasure and security), but also individuals. This dyad is endogenous, or created internally (just as was referenced a few lines earlier where evil comes out of us, it doesn’t go into us) and is common to all humanity. There is also a double meaning intended here, as “dyad” should trigger the thought of the very close word “dryad.” Dryads were the living beings who inhabited trees in Greek mythology. While often considered beautiful and wonderful, encounters with them could also be very dangerous, leaving one mad, dumb, etc. Here, endogenous dyad (or dryad) signifies that this pride and control are the true spirit residing within our corporeal trunks (bodies) – a spirit which when encountered and fed can perpetuate and exacerbate our maddened state. Eliphaz was one of Job’s friends. He came from a land known for its wisdom. Many interpretations of the name “Eliphaz” show it as meaning “El (or god, as in ‘elohim’) is fine gold.” This name adds to the gold theme, but so does Eliphaz’s actions. Eliphaz promoted what we would call a prosperity gospel today. He, a wealthy and wise man, sat smugly in his perceived wealth. He though his wealth and security were tied to his morality. He was untouchable by God because he was a good man. Conversely, the judgment which befell Job must have been because Job was morally compromised. In this way, Eliphaz was blind to his own sinfulness before God, but also blind to the great insecurity in his life despite his current wellbeing. His trust was not in God but in his own perceived morality and wealth. Wealth constructs a deceitful story (humbug). I use “fabricate” here in a triple sense, as fabricate can mean to “construct” or can also mean “lie/deceive.” It’s a double emphasis on wealth’s ability to deceive us and misguide us. It is also a literary reference to the infamous Scrooge whose most famous word was “humbug.” In this sense, wealth has a tendency to harden our hearts like scrooge. That’s because the greatest deception of wealth is that God is not the giver of wealth, but that God is subservient to it. By bowing our knees to wealth as our security, we are telling God that these things are better and safer than he is. We elevate pleasure and security while denigrating God. “Lord of Sabaoth” occurs twice in the New Testament of which I’m aware (Rom. 9:29 and James 5:4), at least in the King James Version it goes untranslated. The word means “armies.” The man with a golden mouth refers to John Chrysostom, whose name meant “golden mouthed.” He was supposedly an unpa

Nov 13, 20207 min

S1 Ep 26(86) S1E26 Veteran's Day - The Horror of War

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751War Document Summary of Fiasco: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/world/asia/afghanistan-war-documents-takeaways.html Document Release: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/world/asia/afghanistan-war-documents.htmlHumorous Recap of Document Release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgbIUWWAJQ&t=9sCivilian Deaths: https://www.foxnews.com/world/more-than-180000-iraqi-civilians-killed-since-2003-report Cost of War in Afghanistan: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/09/world/middleeast/afghanistan-war-cost.html?mtrref=www.bing.com&gwh=0D692861C8FEB4D1CC9CC93EFFC1D9F2&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL Wasted Money and Corruption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo1u1HJqF4AMore Wasted Resources: https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/afghans-dont-like-soybeans-despite-a-big-u-s-push/Threat of Homegrown Terror vs. Islamic Terror: https://www.typeinvestigations.org/investigation/2017/06/22/home-hate/ The Kill Team Documentary: https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Team-Adam-Winfield/dp/B0823MHF4F/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=the+kill+team&qid=1588387213&sr=8-4On Killing Book: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society-ebook/dp/B00J90F8W2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=on+killing&qid=1588443074&sr=8-1The Body Keeps the Score Book: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/B00OBT7KAO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Body+Keeps+the+Score&qid=1588443114&sr=8-1Killing from the Inside Out Book: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Inside-Out-Moral-Injury-ebook/dp/B00NVN93EM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1588443145&sr=1-1War and Moral Injury: https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Injury-Robert-Emmet-Meagher-ebook/dp/B07CFW2S3G/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=war+and+moral+injury&qid=1588443180&s=digital-text&sr=1-1War is a Racket: https://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated-ebook/dp/B00E25IYES/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=war+is+a+racket&qid=1588443209&s=digital-text&sr=1-1Steel My Soldiers' Hearts: https://www.amazon.com/Steel-Soldiers-Hearts-Transformation-Battalion/dp/B000J0UR2W/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18LULA34R6P6F&dchild=1&keywords=steel+my+soldiers+hearts&qid=1588443222&s=digital-text&sprefix=steel+my+soldier%2Cdigital-text%2C201&sr=1-3-catcorrA Change of Allegiance Book: https://www.amazon.com/Change-Allegiance-Dean-Taylor-ebook/dp/B008N06U44/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=dean+taylor&qid=1588387538&s=books&sr=1-7 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Nov 10, 202036 min

S5 Ep 8(85) S5E8 SOTM: Ruby

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1RubyRuby reds begin to cloud my visionHot emotions flood the depths of my soulHateful thoughts transform mind into prisonFrom reign of vengeance ne'er a caracole Only blood can satiate my fierce thirstAnother's oblation to the divineOnly when gods have exacted their worstWill peaceful ones like me no more repine But bloodletting's always unrelentingNever enough blood to cure or preventAs one whose life is the ultimate thingCan never from their self-int'rest repent Only security that we can know'sWillingness to give life for friends and foes [Mt. 5:38-48]. Rubies were used as gems of protection and security. The first stanza is meant to convey ideas often associated with the color red (hot, hateful, vengeance, reds), as the gem in view here is a Ruby. I also discuss how these emotions and thoughts are not good with the language I use (cloud, prison, and flood). This last line summarizes the position this vengeful person is in. Vengeance reigns in their life so much that they will not take a step to the left or to the right from the path they are on. I have a number of things in mind here. 1) Simply, I’m saying that those controlled by this passion of vengeance are on an immovable path. They are controlled and won’t divert their course. 2) I use the word caracole which is a word intended to be used specifically for horse maneuvering. In this sense, I am claiming that one who is filled with violence is no longer fully human, but beastly (as the Bible often symbolizes of inhuman humans). 3) Reign should also cause the reader to think of the alternative spelling and meaning of this word, “rein.” This should especially be so since I used the word “caracole” to bring horse imagery to mind. When violence is in one’s view, it tends to lead an individual by the reins. It controls them and reigns over them in their beastly state. This oblation can be meant in two ways. In one sense, for me to require the blood or pain of another is to set myself up as divine. To say that a slight against me is worthy of another’s painful infliction is to think rather highly of myself. It is setting myself up as a god. But this can also be viewed from a more Christian perspective. Many times conservatives tend to claim a view of God’s law and holiness which is extremely high, then damn all those who break the law (except themselves and their group/party, of course). To sit as judges who condemn others is to not only overlook our own sin, but it overlooks God’s mercy and grace towards sinners. We set ourselves up as gods when we assume a position which brings violence upon another human being on God’s behalf, forgetting both our own sinful state and God’s gracious mercy towards us. These two lines reflect the notion that most people have, which is that the problem is “out there” rather than “in here” – in our own hearts. If God would just judge the world and if I could just exact justice on those people, then the world would be made right and we’d all live happily. See, I’m really a peaceful, loving person, but not while those problem people are happy. Such a view fails to recognize one’s own complicity in creating a world saturated with evil. If life is the thing held most dearly, one will cling to it at all costs. This is one thing which sets Christianity apart from other worldviews. We are to consider our lives lost for the sake of our God and our neighbor (which includes enemies). MLK noted that this change in ideology was actually what catapulted him in his movement, as he was only freed to love and do justice when he laid down his defenses and submitted to the possibility of suffering for love. The problem with holding our lives so dear is that doing so often means acting at the expense of others. Sometimes we draw blood indirectly, through our materialistic greed and our willingness to subjugate people in far away lands for our comfort and security, or to demonize migrants who seek to come into our country of plenty. Often times we are willing to draw blood more directly, through the use of force (self-defense, military, slander, etc). But we often find that no matter how much violence we do, it is never enough to provide us

Nov 5, 20207 min

S5 Ep 7(84) S5E7 SOTM: Diamond

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Diamond On ancient day upon which Adam fellTears of fallen gods rained down like diamondsTheir laughter deigned to men unto flood's swellA flash of wrath against sounding sirens Harsh judgment once befell those rebelliousSave for those who had faith in ark of woodSame salvation holds true for those todayWho hark in faith him who in their place stood But warnings stand for those refusing beckThose who do not confess all they've done wrongFor they who seek to judge another's speckWill fail to rise and meet perfection's slog Let words spoken be as soft as they're trueOr mosey to judgment, your fate to hew [Mt. 5:33-37 and Mt. 7:1-5]. There are many diamond associations I’ll get to later, but the important starting point is that diamonds are said to have been used by Jewish high priests to help in judging. They were specifically used to help judge truthfulness and falsity, as diamonds were said to shine more if someone was telling the truth. For this reason I use it to refer to Matthew on judgment and truthfulness (specifically in contexts of judgment or legal issues). There are two double meanings in this line. First, Adam fell on an ancient day in the sense that he fell a long time ago. However, it also means that he dashed his foot or came up against the Ancient of Days, another name for God. His offense occurred long ago and it was against the Ancient of Days. The other double meaning lies in Adam. Adam literally means Adam, but it also is a reference to diamond, which gets its name from the Greek “adamas,” meaning invincible. This second meaning gives the first line an ironic twist in that our Adam was far from invincible. Even that which appears invincible cannot stand against our God. The Greeks believed diamonds were tears of the gods and Romans believed they came from falling stars. I hit on both of those concepts in this line. Using a Divine Council motif which understands the multiple uses of plural “elohim” in the Old Testament to be referencing a divine council of beings (though none divine or uncreated as God is), I here refer to the “gods.” When Adam fell, the gods wept. Some, those who followed God, wept for sadness. But here I talk about the fallen gods. These are the ones who followed Satan in rebellion and were rooting for humanity’s demise. In the ancient world, stars were thought to be divine beings. Some argue that in certain places in scripture where we see the stars falling, it is a reference to fallen angels. Whether that’s true or not, it is a commonly held belief and one I’m running with here, though not necessarily supporting. So in this sense, the tears of the gods cover Greek thought on diamonds, and the fallen gods (or fallen stars, metaphorically) cover the Roman conception of diamonds as well as certain Jewish and Christian streams of thought. One may ask in line three why the fallen gods would cry over Adam’s fall. Here we see that they are tears of laughter, not sadness. This evil laughter continues until the time of Noah, as the demonic corrupted humanity even more (see Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch for specifics). Eventually, God withdrew his protection because the world was so out of control, and the waters of the deep once again encroached on the earth. The “flash” here is meant to trigger back to the word “flood,” as the flood suddenly came upon people. We also get a glimpse of this in the gospels where Jesus talks about the judgment being like the days of Noah, where one is suddenly taken while another is left. Sirens here means that the wrath is coming against the siren call of the demonic who enticed humanity from Adam onward. It is also a word indicating the warning of God’s judgment through rebellion, as in a warning siren. This is a reference back to the flood from the stanza before. Only those who put their faith in the ark (representing God’s promise) were saved. I Peter 3 references Noah and the salvation we have through baptism (representing Jesus as Peter goes on to explain, and as he set up in Chapter 1 as well). Noah is usually thought of as a type of Christ for a number of reasons you can look up. Christians today, like Noah, place their faith in Jesus

Oct 30, 20207 min

S5 Ep 6(83) S5E6 SOTM: Emerald

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Emerald Erin, fair maiden whom all do admireWielding a power few will ever knowPower to allure all harbored desirePower to smite with a look, all her foes But Erin's fair beauty was taken whenMen in God's image inverted His planObjectifying others, which thereinMoulded their God in the image of man Now rest your eyes not upon Erin's breastNor upon that which you think she could giveJust rest your eyes upon that which attestsYour equal stands before you and God lives Rest weary eyes upon this emeraldAnd heed divine image others herald [Mt. 5:27-32]. I found two interesting attributes ascribed to emeralds throughout history. One is that they are able to help the wearer cut through infatuation (usually to see or hear the truth when speaking to a lover), and they were thought to be peaceful to gaze upon and helped the eyes to rest. Erin represents two things. First, it represents a beautiful young woman. The inherent beauty of this woman is power, in that it draws out the deepest passions and desires of many who gaze upon her. Figuratively she can smite them with her looks, but this can also be literal. Others may be willing to kill for her out of their passions. The second thing meant by “Erin” is “Ireland.” I’ll expound on this more a little later, but Erin is actually a name the Irish have used for Ireland, particularly in their poetry (sometimes spelled slightly differently). Ireland is also known as the “Emerald Isle.” In this sense, “Erin” also stands for the “Emerald Isle,” which not only incorporates the picture of emeralds into the poem, but brings us to a different level of passions and infatuation. While people may kill and lust over a beautiful woman, many will also kill and lust over the power a country holds. This should be readily apparent in today’s environment which is rife with nationalism…I mean patriotism. There is a lot going on in this stanza. 1) The second and fourth lines of this stanza are almost a direct quote from William Drennan’s poem, “When Erin First Rose.” It was in this poem in which Ireland was first referred to in print as “The Emerald Isle.” The poem is wonderful and I highly recommend you read it. The lines I used can be found in the last two lines of the second stanza. You can find it here: https://www.libraryireland.com/CIL/DrennanErin.php. 2) This stanza argues that this beauty and power possessed by Erin (the power of women or the power of authority and dominion particularly of a nation, depending on which way you’re reading it) has been corrupted. Beauty and dominion are not bad things. In fact, we see both prior to Genesis 3 and the fall of humanity. However, rather than allowing God to define what is good and respect his parameters, we have defiled his creation. Rather than admire the beauty of woman or the dominion we are supposed to assert through servanthood, we invert the image of God in others and corrupt the way we image God to creation. Instead of bowing to God and acknowledging his image, we fashion idols of God made in our own image. Instead of living in an upside down kingdom, we build a kingdom around ourselves. As we set ourselves up as gods, we objectify all else for our benefit. 3) I Corinthians 11 tells us that woman is the glory of man. While many patriarchists have taken this to mean some sort of subordinationism in that it places women under men, I hold to the view that this elevates women. While women, like men, are humans who bear God’s image, women also have the added attribute of blessing man (since Eve was taken out of Adam). In this sense, women are doubly beautiful, reflecting the one by whom they were created (God) and the one from whom they came out of (man). From “Paul and Gender,” “’Woman is the glory of man’ is actually a positive evaluation of women and indicates a high status, because she is both the image and glory of God, and she has such additional beauty that she is the glory of humanity. She is the glory of man by virtue of the fact that she was created from him, and that is why her glory, her beauty, reflects on him.” Women were created as the glory of man and it was only after the fall, in the curse, where it was described (not prescribed) that men would subject women as inferiors.

Oct 23, 20208 min

S3 Ep 15(82) S3E15 One Issue Voting: A Response to Scott Klusendorf

General Notes: A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Referenced Sources: Wretched Radio Interview with Scott Klusendorf: https://wretched.org/10-19-2020/Jeffress Quote: https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/megachurch-pastor-robert-jeffress-would-vote-for-trump-over-jesus-the-bible-calls-for-a-strongman/“You know, I was debating an evangelical professor on NPR, and this professor said, ‘Pastor, don’t you want a candidate who embodies the teaching of Jesus and would govern this country according to the principles found in the Sermon on the Mount?’” Jeffress said. “I said, ‘Heck no.’ I would run from that candidate as far as possible, because the Sermon on the Mount was not given as a governing principle for this nation.”SBC decision on abortion (using an archived link, as they have recently taken down the original): https://web.archive.org/web/20200427232149/http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/13/resolution-on-abortionSBC Resolution on Moral Character of Public Officials: https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/resolution-on-moral-character-of-public-officials/?fbclid=IwAR2P4IvzERIZi2SXycSnQavYY5neip_FO91QsgGfvWpkDf_Ok7oBj9KszlURay Comfort's "180" Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwIPhil Vischer's abortion video: https://youtu.be/RvWD7ykNjCcOther Pertinent Episodes: (7) Rebuttal: Nonviolence is Evil in its Refusal to do Good: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-evil-in-refusing-to-do-good (12) Romans 13 [Part 1]: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13(13) Romans 13 (Part 2): https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13-part-2(24) Consequentialism Episode 1: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-the-heart-of-compromise(26) Against the Lesser of Two Evils: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-problems-with-the-lesser-of-two-evils-ethic(33) The Moral Conundrum of Ectopic Pregnancies: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-the-moral-conundrum-of-ectopic-pregnancies(36) Abstention from Political Idolatry: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se2-abstention-from-political-idolatry(37) Consequentialism: The Moral Conundrum of Voting for an Evil: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-the-moral-conundrum-of-voting-for-an-evil(50) Abortion Episode 1: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/43-the-case-against-abortion-the-foundational-question(59) A Closer Look at Ectopic Pregnancies: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/51-rebuttal-ectopic-pregnancies(61) The Influence of Race on Evangelicalism's Anti-Abortion Position: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/61-se9-the-racist-origin-of-evangelicalisms-anti-abortion-position(62) More Racism: Racial Disparity and the Demographics of Abortion: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/more-racism-racial-disparity-and-the-demographics-of-abortion(63) Killing Nazis vs. Killing Abortionists: The Illogic of Violence: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/63-killing-nazis-vs-killing-abortionists-the-illogic-of-violence(77) SE11: Day of Peace - Abortion and the Modern Compromise: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/77-se10-day-of-peace-even-for-the-most-vulnerableOther Pertinent Sources: Scott Klusendorf's Site: https://prolifetraining.com/Textbook on abortion which discusses the double effect: https://www.academia.edu/44337492/Level_3_NCEA_Textbook_on_Abortion?source=swp_share Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Oct 21, 20201h 2m

S5 Ep 5(81) S5E5 SOTM: Amethyst

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Amethyst The rage of red will rails against the wrongWhile banality to blue will's bequeathedThe first seeks to cut short another's songLatter never incisiveness unsheathes But when bled together, these reds and bluesA royal color's beckoned to come forthMajestic depth construed in purple huesDominion comes through sobriety's force A sober-minded one will never hateNor allow good opportunity missedFor sobriety sees as clear as dayCutting through the fog as does amethyst The one given to strong drink or passionsNever creates - only themselves fashioned [Mt. 5:21-26]. Amethyst is a purple gem once thought to provide sobriety while drinking, clarity while looking into the future, and was a beautiful purple – the color of royalty. Here I juxtapose the colors red and blue. Red is often associated with anger and is a hot, vibrant, open color. Blue, on the other hand, is often associated with the “blues,” and is a colder color. Whereas red here is symbolized as attacking, blue is symbolized as representing passivity. I expound here on the first two lines, more in regard to anger and passivity than to the colors. Anger, hatred, and aggressiveness seek to “end another’s song,” representative of killing another – whether that’s directly through murder or indirectly through hatred. Others are an object in our way which must be stopped. Jesus told us that to hate is to kill, as both seek the undoing of a human impediment through objectification. For the passivity, I use a word play with “incisiveness.” To “incise” means to cut. Incisiveness here means perceptive or smart. One who refuses to engage the world never whips out their intellect in order to address the world’s problems. They simply sit back. So when I say they never “unsheathe” their incisiveness, it is meant to play off the root of the word which can imply cutting, as one would normally unsheathe a sharp object, like a sword. In this sense, the blue and red are the antitheses of each other, with one signifying aggression and the other inaction. This notion also plays on the idea of anger. When we think of anger we usually think of weapons and physical aggression. However, while the angry one here is chided for wanting to harm another, the passive one here is chided for not unsheathing their intellect and will. The middle ground, then, will be that we must be aggressive in this world, but not with weapons seeking physical harm. Our battle is not with flesh and blood. I continue with the violent imagery here as I reference “bled together.” Blue and red together make purple, which is historically the color of royalty. So when we mix our aggression or assertiveness with our willingness to hold back, we get the perfect combination. This is what subjects of the Kingdom, or rulers who will judge angels (as Paul calls us), will do. We are royal ambassadors of the Kingdom of God. One who is angry and aggressive does not have dominion over the world as God intended. They do not rule the world, but are rather ruled by their emotions. They don’t tend and keep, as God described the way their dominion should be. Instead, they seek, subjugate, and destroy out of selfish ambition and vain conceit. Likewise, one who is not assertive does not have dominion as God intended, for they assert their reign over nothing. Dominion comes through sobriety – clear thinking uncompromised by any substance (e.g. alcohol) or action (e.g. lack of sleep) which would cloud our ability to move forward in wisdom. Amethyst was thought by some ancients to help cut the effects of alcohol and produce sobriety. It was also thought at times to help have clarity in seeing the future. Living in anger and aggression or indulgent passivity means one does not have dominion. Rather than being creators or individuals who better the world, they are controlled by the world in which they live. These individuals are fashioned by their environment and circumstances. But our call as Christians is to have dominion over the world using the means God intended. Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Oct 15, 20207 min

S5 Ep 4(80) S5E4 SOTM: Turquoise

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Turquoise In past fire rained down from the heavensGod's judgment administered to the damnedCoals of fire only way to God's presenceTo law, judgment, and pain God didst remand But no asceticism like Tolstoy'sCould ever protect or deliver usAnd even totem of heavn'ly turquoiseBecomes debased as sin effloresces Where then can we look for our pirouzeh?We look to him whose eyes are flaming fireAnd patiently await ParousiaWhen Son of Man exacts all that's required With confident boldness we now then praySeeking God's Kingdom come until The Day [Mt. 5:17-20 and Mt. 6:5-15]. In the Old Testament we read about God’s extreme holiness. We see a number of instances of fire raining down from heaven in judgment. Even for God’s people, his holiness was extreme. We see in Isaiah that God placed a burning coal on his lips to purify him. The old vision of God was one of a consuming fire. Apart from the cases of God’s judgment, as in Sodom and Gomorrah, or those directly entering God’s presence, like Isaiah, we also see images of the coals (or the fire) of animal sacrifice the Israelites went through in order to purify themselves before a holy God. In Galatians 3 Paul says, “23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.” This old system is what guided us, though imperfectly, until a new system was established. Leo Tolstoy was an advocate of extreme asceticism. The law tended to drive people to a similar sort of path as seen in the asceticism of the Pharisees in Jesus’s day. But such a system doesn’t work. Turquoise supposedly protected its wearer. A sign of impending danger was that the color of the turquoise would change. Turquoise was often a religious totem viewed as imparting protection. There’s a lot going on here. 1) The straightforward meaning is that whatever heavenly protection one thought they gained through their totem, sin is a corrupting force present in all of us. Sin is contrary to that which is from heaven. 2) “Effloresce” is a chemical term which means for crystals to form on a substance. This often happens through evaporation, and typically produces the formation of salts. In this sense, I am tapping into the idea of a color, hue, or tone change in our turquoise. When sin is present, it signifies impending harm or doom. 3) I use a lot of terms which one should associate with chemistry. Beyond “effloresce,” the word “asceticism” should trigger the close word “acetic,” as in acetic acid, as many often mistakenly call asceticism “aceticism.” Debased should trigger the thought of bases. When you mix an acid (acetic) with a base you get water and a salt. In this sense, I am saying that asceticism (an acid) mixed with sin debasing (a base) creates a perfect combination for our destruction. It was this combination which created the hardest of hearts not in prostitutes and sinners, but in the religious elite who didn’t realize their debased sin natures, and attempted to approach God through their asceticism. Though this distillation process is the exact opposite of the one found in the “Amber” poem, where individuals become distilled through a compromising with culture, this opposite process also distills one’s saltiness. In the “Amber” poem, the problem was that our saltiness became diluted through our submersion in and compromise with culture. In this poem, the saltiness is distilled from the water but is useless as it fails to be useful. Turquoise was known as or associated with “pirouzeh” by the Persians (who lived in a land where turquoise was abundant), which means “victory.” They would use it on their armor and weapons. This is a reference to the Ancient of Days and the Son of Man – Jesus Christ – as seen in Daniel and Revelation. Our victory is not in our asceticism, but in the victory of Christ. The “Parousia” is a theological term for Christ’s return in judgment, which is also when he comes in final victory (as in pirouzeh). When he returns he will separate

Oct 9, 20206 min

S5 Ep 3(79) S5E3 SOTM: Amber

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Amber Desert browns, palette formed where there's no rainA sign of lifelessness and compromiseSame for those amidst amber waves - the grainWhere life and living are dichotomized But God made us, when we're rubbed up againstTo polarize ourselves in shocking waysNot to build and electrify a fenceBut attract opposites with our displays So build your city high upon a hillA Kingdom outpost, not a nation-stateFor true citizenship can't be distilledAs salt's no longer salt without its taste Flavor and brightness should draw others inBut only works if we're God's citizens [Mt. 5:13-16 and Mt. 6:24]. Amber is a brownish stone which has long been recognized for its ability to become charged and exhibit the properties of static electricity. I use both of these properties throughout the poem. The endless brown of the desert depicts a wasteland of life. Without vegetation there is no visible life, but only that which cowers away hiding from the elements for the majority of the day, awaiting the cool darkness of night. That which does live in the desert must compromise with its environment. Whereas a deer living in a temperate climate, like in Florida, can gather food all year long and come out and enjoy its surroundings, night or day – those in the desert are wholly shaped by their environment. While the various adaptations may look different, each animal is specifically adapted for their extreme environment. They are formed by the desert. I change environments here from the desert to the United States. The first line here is supposed to allude to the “amber waves of grain” line in the song “God Bless America.” I’m talking about those who live in the land of these amber waves of grain (the USA). Whereas the song references this as a beautiful thing, the idea of amber in this poem should connect back to the brown referenced earlier, which depicts lifelessness, barren desert, and compromise. I also change the words from “of grain” to “the grain” because I also want to ensure that the ones I’m speaking of here are those who not only live in the USA, but rather those who live there and live with or go with the grain. I am not therefore necessarily speaking badly of the USA or everyone who lives in it, but rather those who, like the desert animals, are shaped by the vacuous culture around them. I simply use the States because that’s my frame of reference. While conformers to culture may technically be alive, and while their adaptations and compromises may help to sustain their lives, in some senses we could argue that they aren’t truly living. They don’t live a fulfilled life. Like animals in the desert who are bound to their environment and aren’t truly free, so are those who live in a culturally compromised position and go along with Babylon. This could be said of any culture. When amber is rubbed on the right material, the atoms polarize in their alignment which creates static electricity. Children of God, when confronted with or rubbed up against by culture are to do the same. We are not to conform to our culture and be shaped by it, but are rather to be polarized and distinguished from it. When I argue that we should be polarized, I don’t mean that in a pejorative or escapist sense. We aren’t to cause conflict and remove ourselves from the world. Rather, our polarization – how uniquely and beautifully we are set apart – should be something those living in the desert of Babylon are attracted to. Our polarization is not something meant to distance ourselves, but something that is meant to draw others in. We don’t use our religious standards to build electric fences around God and community, keeping others out. In this sense, “a fence” is meant to also mean “offense.” Rather, we use our electrical powers to stimulate and pull others towards us. In Amber, this polarization produces static electricity which is infamous for its ability to attract certain objects and cause them to cling to it. This is a specific reference to Matthew 5 and the idea of a city on a hill. We are not primarily members of Babylon – our individual country or nation-state. We are citizens of the Kingdom. The city we build is not a city in or for o

Oct 2, 20209 min

S5 Ep 2(78) S5E2 SOTM: Onyx

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/My Sonnet Compilation: https://www.amazon.com/My-First-Sonnets-J-G-Elliot-ebook/dp/B01LXXIIQN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=my+first+sonnets&qid=1585870352&sr=8-2Richard Rohr's "Sermon on the Mount": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003A0IASQ/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_uOXEFbGCN7ASQDallas Willard's "The Divine Conspiracy": https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Conspiracy-Rediscovering-Hidden-Life/dp/0007596545/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dallas+willard+divine+conspiracy&qid=1601907374&sr=8-1Onyx Words our minds hear are often left unsaidEnlightened thoughts only see light of nightDivorced from ideal, to cynic wedOur grounded beings never taking flight In painful world most seek only pleasureJuxtaposed lives, like black and white onyxLiving subjectively in great measureThose who seek to find life in cryonics But facing life means not avoiding painAs we defend the clean from the besmirchedWith courage we retreat from the inaneTo battle fallen demons who are perched Christ's illocution is not vacuousThe cross is and is not precipitous [Mt. 5:1-12 and Mt. 7:12-29] Onyx has a number of variations, but the one which I refer to here is the black and white style onyx. It was difficult to get a common theme for its use in mythology, but it seemed that a quelling of fear and pain were common. It was thought to give courage in Rome (or take away fear of death and injury), give eloquence in Europe (or take away fear of being humiliated), and taking away or dampening pain in childbirth as well as quell sexual lust. It was also thought to be able to constrain evil spirits. In all of these senses, onyx seems to be a depressive sort of material towards particular emotions and entities. Here I thought back to my poem “The Unspoken” (see Appendix 8). Most of the things we hear in our head throughout the day are left unsaid. While this may sometimes be good, there are many lovely thoughts we have which never see the light of day – only the dark of night - because we are too timid to share them with others. In our embracing of the fallen world as it is, rather than the ideal that it should be (and will be as God restores it), we refuse to live as God intends for us to live. A Christian realist may understand that an ideal will never be realized until Christ’s return, at least in terms of the effects. However, they should also understand that God calls us to live as idealists, with faith and reliance on him for the means. We are a foretaste of the Kingdom as we live it out in a world that is not yet fully in submission to the King. We are most averse to the sensation of pain and are highly tuned into the presence of pain in our world. We seek to distance ourselves from this as much as possible. Our aversion to pain and attraction to pleasure means that even if something is good, but painful, we will avoid it (e.g. exercise, the way of God, healthy food), and if something feels good, but is harmful, we will indulge (e.g. alcohol, nicotine, drugs, junk food, etc). People seek the perpetuation of pleasure so much that they attempt to become immortal. One way modern humans try to do this is through cryonics (not to be confused with cryogenics, which is the science of studying cold temperatures). Cryonics seeks to freeze human bodies and then resurrect them when their lives can be healed so they live longer. In fact, as molecules approach colder and colder temperatures, nearing Absolute 0, they move less and less until they completely stop. In this great irony, individuals prematurely embrace death, “living” as a frozen corpse for who knows how long. While this may subjectively be what some individuals call “living,” it doesn’t seem like living to me. It’s empty. Seek and find are also intended to allude to the real way we’re supposed to seek and find in Matthew 5-7. But true life isn’t the avoidance of pain. Rather, it’s the promotion and upholding of that which is clean and good, defending what is true, real, and ideal from that which defiles and corrupts. Even if it means pain for me, upholding what is good is what gives meaning to life. That to which we adhere and obey shows where our hope and love lie. If we lose the fabric of objective good, we lose everything, because we lose the source of objective good with it. This references two of the myths of onyx (courage and trapping demons). As we fight for the holy and good, we move away from all that is inane, and we fight our battle not against flesh and blood, but against the demonic. These devils prey on us as they perpetuate their false dichotomy of pleasure and pain (similar to Lewis’s demonic dichotomy in the “Great Divorce), and we must fight them. Jesus ha

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