The Fourth Way

0:00 - Intro3:00 - Aree's Intro11:00 - Inerrancy21:00 - Is God nonviolent by nature or by decree?39:50 - Eastern Orthodoxy and Sacralism53:00 - Is nonparticipation in government violence towards the oppressed?1:03:10 - CRT helps anarchismA huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDO1ZR05bI&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=15 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

0:00:00 My Introduction0:4:00- Craig's Introduction0:11:20 - Why should we care about the early church?0:21:00 - What are some of the biggest differences between the Antenicene Church and the Post-Constantinian Church?0:28:00 - Did Constantine change the church overnight, or was he just watering the seeds latent in the church?0:38:10 - What is the Donatist Controversy and how does it inform our discussion of empire, orthodoxy, and ecumenicism?0:49:45 - Are the Donatists or the Post-Constantinians the true/best representation of the true church?0:56:15 - How do we know what orthodoxy is and what aspects of the faith handed down to us is the winners writing orthodoxy/history? 1:09:00 - What did disputes in the church look like prior to having access to the sword of the state?1:013:45 - How has the power of the sword influenced our world today? What might the world look like today if Christians didn't bear the sword? 1:24:20 - Closing thoughts: The church changed, but empire remained the same.A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8QdMGShJU&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=11Craig's Website: https://crucifiedpeace.wordpress.com/christianpacifists/Christian Attitudes to War, Peace, and Revolution: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4465311-christian-attitudes-to-war-peace-and-revolution?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_26Constantine Revisited: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18185002-constantine-revisited?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_22The Early Church on Killing: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13789120-the-early-church-on-killing?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_23 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview with Matthew Milioni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Q8jXjSegE&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=8Voting as an Abdication of Responsibility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBAs9jmanzsSpooner The Constitution of No Authority: https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/spooner-no-treason-no-vi-the-constitution-of-no-authority-1870Anatomy of a Hybrid: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1461694.The_Anatomy_Of_A_Hybrid?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=SbB0UDw1D0&rank=1George Carlin voting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLvm16MKCpAElecting Not to Vote: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3402646-electing-not-to-vote?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=WUxsN9wXUl&rank=1Hauerwas voting coercive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOk78SSyKtMJust War Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4xQaDDKY7kDial 911: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8994266-dial-911?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=uwBGNQRE7H&rank=7Romans 13 episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/c-g-romans-13-replay-12Romans 13 extension: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/c-g-romans-13-extension-i-pet-and-i-cor-6Spanking Episode Part I: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/97-means-and-ends-spankingTalking Into the Chasm: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-in-the-chasm/id1492844106Followers of the Way: https://www.followers-of-the-way.org/Dank Kingdom Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dank-kingdom-podcast/id15068533130:00:00 Intro0:04:00 Is abstention from government a shirking of our Christian duty to do good in the world? 0:16:00 Is it a false dichotomy to say we can't serve God AND government?0:26:20 The impracticality of governmental pursuit and coercion vs. example0:31:25 Voting as religion and the sacralism of the state0:39:50 Voting as a tool to appease and silent the masses and quell civil uprisings0:45:25 How government steals the credit and props itself up as savior in regard to societal good done by activists0:48:35 Government is idealistic, and Jesus is a better and more practical savior than government0:56:35 False dichotomy part 2: can't we serve God through government?1:00:20 Democracy and voting are inherently coercive and factional, so what about decision making in the church? 1:08:55 If the police and laws do good and provide order in a fallen world, how do we navigate issues like legitimate lawsuits for damages, calling the police for intruders, or reporting sexual abuse?1:24:15 Informing the state about crimes in their domain vs. petitioning the state to use their sword on my behalf1:30:00 How do I maintain a consistent application of noncoercion to other areas, like parenting and spanking?1:35:10 Isn't justifying spanking based on the benefit for my kids the same consequentialism Christians who vote use?1:39:00 What about Jesus ruling with a rod of iron, and Christians ruling in the age to come? That sounds like we're wielding government and sword.1:47:41 Christocentric vision as core 1:52:27 Matthew plugs his stuff1:53:54 Outro Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

0:00:00 - Episode Intro0:05:00 - Jay Newman Intro0:15:30 - Complicity in the system0:19:00 - Is Christian Anarchism retreatist?0:30:30 - Consequentialism's willingness to compromise0:37:30 - Coercion as top down vs. Discipleship as bottom up0:44:00 - The Upside Down Kingdom as true power0:48:45 - Ellul, Anarchism, and Propaganda1:00:00 - Exiles in Babylon1:01:45 - Avoiding negative anarchy for positive anarchy and kingdom buildingA huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ815n_kcQQ&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=16Robert Meeropol Interview: https://share.transistor.fm/s/b8142f61 Christian Nonresistance: In All Its Important Bearings: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1610861.Christian_Non_Resistance?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=TuZN24MbmY&rank=1Aiden Ballou quote from "Christian Nonresistance in All its Important Bearings:" As constituent supporters of human government, ( whether civil or military, or a compound of both -) in its state or national sovereignty, men are morally responsible for all constitutions, institutions, laws, processes, and usages, which they have pledged themselves to support, or which they avowedly approve, or which they depend upon as instrumentalities for securing and promoting their personal welfare, or in which they acquiesce without positive remonstrance and disfellowship. Thus if a political compact, a civil or military league, covenant, or constitution, requires, authorizes, provides for, or tolerates war, bloodshed, capital punishment, slavery, or any kind of absolute injury - offensive or defensive, the man who swears, affirms, or otherwise pledges himself to support such a compact, league, covenant, or constitution, is just as responsible for every act of injury done in strict conformity thereto, as if he himself personally committed it. He is not responsible for abuses and violations of the constitution.But for all that is constitutionally done he is responsible. The army is his army, the navy his navy, the militia his militia, the gallows his gallows, the -^ pillory his pillory, the whipping-post his whipping-post, the branding-iron his branding-iron, the prison to prison, the dungeon his dungeon, and the slaveholding his slaveholding. When the constitutional majority declare war, it is his war. All the slaughter, rapine, ravages, robbery, destruction, and mischief committed under that declaration, in accordance with the laws of war, are his. Nor can he exculpate himself by pleading that he was one of a strenuous anti-war minority in the government. He was in the government. He had sworn, affirmed, or otherwise pledged himself, that the majority should have discretionary power to declare war. He tied up his hands with that anti-Christian obligation, to stand by the majority in all the crimes and abominations inseparable from war. It is therefore his war, its murders are his murders, its horrible injuries on humanity are his injuries. " They are all committed with his solemn sanction. There is no escape from this terrible moral responsibility but by a conscientious withdrawal from such government, and an uncompromising protest against so much of its fundamental creed and constitutional law, as is decidedly anti-Christian. He must cease to be its pledged supporter and approving dependent. Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IN4L6JooZE&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=10Our Foundations Podcast: https://ourfoundations.podbean.com/Creature from Jekyll Island: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/66499.The_Creature_from_Jekyll_Island?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_18Christian Attitudes to War, Peace, and Revolution: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4465311-christian-attitudes-to-war-peace-and-revolution?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_26The Fourth Turning: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/670089.The_Fourth_Turning?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_140:00:00 - Introduction0:12:45 - Christians should seek idealism and perfection, despite its unattainability 0:18:00 - Why don't we teach pursuing the ideal in governing our world, but we teach pursuing the ideal in regard to things like adultery/lust and murder/hate?0:22:00 - Reverse incarnation as hope and hypocrisy as a lack of pursuing the ideal0:24:30 - how do you know which ideal to embrace when there are competing idealisms?0:29:40 - The practical nature of the Kingdom of God and his orderly universe0:40:40 - Cycle of individualism vs the cycle of institutionalism0:46:00 - Flipping the script: the idealism of the statists and just war adherents0:56:00 The practical nature of God's kingdom1:01:00 - The alternative of no government seems worse1:05:00 - The market as organization rather than state1:20:00 - Free markets incentivize non-discrimination1:31:45 - Cycles in human history1:38:00 - Outro and plugs Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXlUUEbD1ak&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=14John's website: https://antiwarwarvet.com/Lysander Spooner's "No Treason": https://www.scribd.com/book/426684842/The-Complete-Works-of-Lysander-Spooner-The-Unconstitutionality-of-Slavery-No-Treason-The-Constitution-of-No-Authority-Vices-are-Not-Crimes-Natura?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google_search&utm_campaign=3Q_Google_DSA_NB_RoW&utm_device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwu_mSBhAYEiwA5BBmfyAeOQrLz1F1oT9Aza8SLWTGTM-SfHiyZxSx3YUYGB2dP5zsRPe63BoClx0QAvD_BwEDavid Grossman's "On Killing": https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932War and Moral Injury: https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Injury-Robert-Emmet-Meagher/dp/1498296785Achilles in Vietnam: https://www.amazon.com/Achilles-in-Vietnam-audiobook/dp/B07DR1DK7Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=ZN6NYE4VSPSX&keywords=achilles+in+vietnam&qid=1650411772&s=books&sprefix=achilles+in+vietnam%2Cstripbooks%2C169&sr=1-1War is a Racket: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/198259.War_is_a_Racket?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=mhUu4ganRr&rank=10:00 - Introduction6:20 - Pacifism vs anti-war9:45 how our freedoms and security are hampered by protecting our freedom through military action20:30 - Diffusion of responsibility as cogs in a wheel that run the machinery26:30 - inalienable rights aren't inalienable, as we don't apply them to other groups31:45 - Smedley Butler34:15 - Is war a racket?41:20 - Taxes, contracts, and Lysander Spooner's "No Treason" 47:30 - Moral injury and the cost of state violence Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1wPu_Re6Y8&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=3&t=844sCaesar and the Lamb: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16237822-caesar-and-the-lamb?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=PRc1uFbXGi&rank=1Air Force Chapel: https://www.usafa.edu/facilities/cadet-chapel/Anabaptist Perspective Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyqfc43wM9UWhen Helping Hurts: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6595233-when-helping-hurts?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_18The Locus Effect: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17656566-the-locust-effect?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_16Followers of the Way [FOTW]: https://www.facebook.com/FollowersoftheWayBostonFOTW It's Just War Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4xQaDDKY7kFOTW Christianity and Voting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zitBjs1Y1r8King Jesus Claims His Church: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18470201-king-jesus-claims-his-church?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_28Fair Play: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/176691.Fair_Play?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=EOle79pVaf&rank=1To Change the World: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7846894-to-change-the-world?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_26Sattler College: https://www.sattlercollege.org/My episode on Christians and Lying: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/finished-augustine-and-lying Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

0:00 - Introduction7:45 - Incoherence of Current Moral Theories8:20 - Virtue Ethics & Arbitrariness9:25 - Consequentialism & Arbitrariness10:15 - Deontological & Arbitrariness12:45 - Virtue Ethics & Egoism19:20 - Deontology & Egoism21:30 - Consequentialism & Egoism26:05 - How does the resurrection fix arbitrariness and egoism?27:40 - Purpose and existence in creation30:40 - Separation from purpose and existence33:45 - What the resurrection gets us - theosis40:40 - Existence and pure nature are required for purpose and morality46:20 - Privation theory of evil51:20 - Isn't hope in resurrection a self-centered hope?1:00:05 - Resurrection prevents the sacrifice of other1:10:15 - Means are concomitant with their ends1:11:50 - Conclusion1:14:15 - Implications on Christian Anarchism and OtheringA huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a1tsRIJQCw&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=12Necessity of the Resurrection Article: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/a-morality-of-beingChristian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7106065-christian-anarchism?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Fiu9MyYhqw&rank=1How Did Sin Originate in a Perfect World? discuss essences and adjoining to God through theosis: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/how-did-sin-originate-in-a-perfect-world(96) S6E4 Means and Ends: Purposing: rooting purpose rather than creating it, and how purpose is relationalhttps://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/means-and-ends-purposingHitchens vs. Hitchens Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlskhOlYBY Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

0:00 - My Introduction and Preface17:00 - Participant Introductions20:30 - How did the book come about?26:40 - Christian Anarchism connected to Liberation Theology30:40 - Parties cherry-pick critiques of the state36:30 - Post-anarchism39:30 - How can CA contribute to modern Christian politics44:40 - General and specific loves of groups51:50 - Othering, domination, and hierarchy58:00 - Anarchy and compulsory vaccinations1:05:15 - Resource recommendationsA huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a1tsRIJQCw&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=12Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7106065-christian-anarchism?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Fiu9MyYhqw&rank=1How Did Sin Originate in a Perfect World? discuss essences and adjoining to God through theosis: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/how-did-sin-originate-in-a-perfect-world(96) S6E4 Means and Ends: Purposing: rooting purpose rather than creating it, and how purpose is relationalhttps://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/means-and-ends-purposingHitchens vs. Hitchens Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlskhOlYBY Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueVideo Interview with Abby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyZtSxbk1jQ&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=6&t=686s Adin Ballou: https://archive.org/details/christiannonres00ballgoogAbby Cleckner Podcast/Article: https://www.thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-49 Milgram Experiment: https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html "Ordinary Men": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/647492.Ordinary_Men?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=aRJ3vzYP9K&rank=1"They Thought They Were Free": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/978689.They_Thought_They_Were_Free?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=wkBRNkaOz3&rank=1"Defying Hitler": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65458.Defying_Hitler The Bad Roman Project: https://www.thebadroman.com/ Stanford Prison Experiment: https://www.prisonexp.org/ "I Got a Monster": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51171365-i-got-a-monster?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=GES4IA1axW&rank=1Hauerwas and the church as politics: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/unsystematictheology/2016/10/hauerwas-on-the-political-task-of-the-church-in-america/ Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true"Generous Justice": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8414177-generous-justice?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=EirtdWLhk5&rank=1"Way of the Dragon or Way of the Lamb": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55918687-the-way-of-the-dragon-or-the-way-of-the-lamb?ref=nav_sb_noss_l_17Solzhenitsyn: https://www.solzhenitsyncenter.org/live-not-by-liesHavel: https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/the-power-of-the-powerless-vaclav-havel-2011-12-23 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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Pre-Episode Introduction0:00:00 - Introduction and Robert's story0:04:20 - Manichean nature of propaganda0:08:20 - Government destroys culture, not just resistance0:10:15 - Timing of this episodeInterview with Robert0:13:45 - Propaganda in the case of Robert's parents0:19:15 - Role of fear and othering in propaganda0:27:25 - Why was it important for propaganda that the kids of the Rosenbergs were targeted as threats?0:38:25 - Propaganda in the media as a sedative that gets people to work within the system rather than buck it0:51:50 - How can we know truth in a world saturated by propaganda?1:00:30 - Why can't the government bring itself to admit they're wrong?1:11:45 - Why do we need activists today if we solved discrimination with Civil Rights?1:21:50 - Resource recommendations and plugsA huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Questions and Notes for the Episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXPgp06Xp5Hc-IlB3x81Fwi6ZCCHL4uu2Xs8Wu1rKJs/edit?usp=sharingYouTube version of our interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbzPXxJ2PToPRE-RELEASE EPISODE 1 INTRODUCTION: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4fec1099PRE-RELEASE EPISODE 2 HOW PROPAGANDA FUNCTIONS: https://share.transistor.fm/s/7f9c0a8cPRE-RELEASE EPISODE 3 THE FALSE PROPHET OF PROPAGANDA: https://share.transistor.fm/s/89025034An Execution in the Family (Robert's Book): https://www.amazon.com/Execution-Family-One-Sons-Journey-ebook/dp/B003J5UJJK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=252RAVF2FZJCL&keywords=an+execution+in+the+family&qid=1650622614&s=digital-text&sprefix=an+execution+in+the+family%2Cdigital-text%2C193&sr=1-1 Executing the Rosenbergs: https://www.amazon.com/Executing-Rosenbergs-Death-Diplomacy-World-ebook/dp/B015P7A066/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1IUJQLH31QLL9&keywords=executing+the+rosenbergs&qid=1650622585&s=digital-text&sprefix=executing+the+rosenberg%2Cdigital-text%2C190&sr=1-1 Rosenberg Fund for Children: https://www.rfc.org/Ellul's "Propaganda": https://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Formation-Mens-Attitudes/dp/B08YJ3V7F4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=GGCP6WP3WUXW&keywords=ellul+propaganda&qid=1650622694&sprefix=ellul+propagand%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1Chomskey on Propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suFzznCHjkoThe Radical King (on King and Communism): https://www.amazon.com/The-Radical-King-audiobook/dp/B0799ZNCQQ/ref=sr_1_39?crid=1FHIRH7P45O7X&keywords=martin+luther+king&qid=1650620746&sprefix=martin+luther+kin%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-39"Strange Fruit" sung by Billie Holiday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOIRobert Williams and Radio Free Dixie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_DixieNegroes with Guns by Robert Williams: https://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Guns-Robert-F-Williams/dp/1773230522Slavery into the 1940's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4kI2h3iotASlavery into Modernity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXbJHsKB3ITerror Factory: https://www.amazon.com/Terror-Factory-Inside-Manufactured-Terrorism/dp/1632460653/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RHU33LH9VVFD&keywords=terror+factory&qid=1650622428&s=books&sprefix=terror+factory%2Cstripbooks%2C211&sr=1-1Nixon's War at Home: https://www.amazon.com/Nixons-War-Home-Guerrillas-Counterterrorism/dp/B09HVC31CS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DHD4VELWJKKK&keywords=nixon%27s+war+at+home&qid=1650622483&s=books&sprefix=nixon%27s+war+at+ho%2Cstripbooks%2C194&sr=1-1Not a Nation of Immigrants: https://www.amazon.com/Not-Nation-Immigrants-Colonialism-Supremacy-ebook/dp/B08K7QKCCK/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1650622505&sr=1-1Yippie Girl: https://www.amazon.com/Yippie-Girl-Exploits-Protest-Defeating-ebook/dp/B09MS4YS68/ref=sr_1_1?crid=276EC2B44V265&keywords=yippie+girl&qid=1650622525&s=digital-text&sprefix=yippie+girl%2Cdigital-text%2C190&sr=1-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueAnarchochristian "Anarchy in Pennsylvania": https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/anarchy-in-pennsylvania/id1339744391?i=1000447731440Scars of Independence: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31453065-scars-of-independence?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=cYitg7NK0m&rank=1War is a Racket: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/198259.War_is_a_Racket?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=7hHcGpWvmR&rank=1Lysander Spooner and the Post Office: https://explorethearchive.com/lysander-spoonerPostal Clause: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_ClauseUSPS Monopoly: https://www.cato.org/tax-budget-bulletin/privatizing-us-postal-service Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueThe Gospel or a Glock: https://documents.pub/document/gospel-or-a-glock.htmlI Got a Monster: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/440180470/I-Got-a-Monster-The-Rise-and-Fall-of-America-s-Most-Corrupt-Police-SquadBehind the Bastards Policing: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/slavery-mass-murder-and-the-birth-63913529/The End of Policing: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/400924172/The-End-of-PolicingDial 911 (I know it doesn't look like the right resource, but it is): https://www.amazon.com/Dial-911-Peaceful-Christians-Violence/dp/0836119525/ref=sr_1_11?crid=DHX6M9KTPLQV&keywords=dial+911+book&qid=1652725121&sprefix=dial+911+boo%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-11 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueMoral Chemistry: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/moral-chemistry Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueA great conversation on a philosophy behind abstention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqEc3NNGol8&feature=youtu.bePhil Vischer on abortion and politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvWD7ykNjCc&feature=youtu.beVoting as coercive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiiyZsCzP9k&t=1sVoting as an abdication of responsibility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBAs9jmanzs&t=9sChristian Sacralism in "Anatomy of a Hybrid:" https://www.gospeltruth.net/verduin/hybrid.htmElecting Not to Vote: https://www.amazon.com/Electing-Not-Vote-Christian-Reflections-ebook/dp/B00YD5D0Z0/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=electing+not+to+vote&qid=1577199172&sr=8-1Essay on Civil Disobedience (Thoreau): https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/texts/201/Thoreau,%20CivilDisobedience.pdfKierkegaard Quotes on Politics: https://www.plough.com/en/topics/justice/politics/politics-and-the-stateThe Myth of a Christian Nation: https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Christian-Nation-Political-Destroying/dp/0310267315/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+myth+of+a+christian+nation&qid=1583004622&sr=8-2Consequentialism Series (beginning ep. 24): https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes?utf8=%E2%9C%93&year=2019&month=Romans 13 Part 1 (Biblical Case): https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13Romans 13 Part 2 (Practical Case): https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/rebuttal-romans-13-part-2As Christians in the U.S. start thinking about voting for a commander in chief this fall, I thought I'd throw out an unpopular option for everyone to chew on. I've done a significant amount of reflection on politics, voting, and Kingdom living over the past few years, and I have concluded that the option of abstention is something that needs to be on the table for Christians. It may not be something you do in this election, or any future election, but it needs to be a tool you have available to you and one you can respect others using. In this podcast episode I lay out that case for this option, but if you want the summary and don't want to listen to a ninety minute episode, I'll summarize below. https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se2-abstention-from-political-idolatry1. Many Christians view what James calls true religion as optional (helping orphans, widows, etc), as few Christians judge others for not doing these things. Only people who are "called" to those things are required to do them. Few people in our churches adopt, volunteer at the food pantry, etc. We view those things as optional, and understand if congregants don't have the time to participate. However, many view voting as morally necessary and the responsible thing to do. This mismatch of moral obligations seems to me to be political idolatry. How is it that orphans and widows are optional, while voting is obligatory? The state has replaced the church as the Christian ethic in American Evangelical society, which is why a vote every four years is lauded more vocally than doing the hard work of consistent community interaction and love. 2. When all candidates and/or platforms require our own moral compromises or implicit support of evil, the testimony of Christ should be prioritized and our salt/light to the world maintained over any action which promises perceived effectiveness. When all options are evil (a threshold we may disagree on), a holy example is only maintained through our abstention from evil and subsequent faith in God to accomplish his means through the church. As Daniel resigned himself to prayer, Moses's mother resigned her son to a basket, and Jesus resigned himself to a cross - God may bring us to a moment where following him means throwing off seeming effectiveness and simply resting in God's promise to sovereignly control history not through our subversion of his means, but through our clinging to him and his holy will over human wisdom, methodology, and power..God's express and implied will for our lives is holiness and a growing conformity to Christ. If all political parties and/or candidates require moral compromise, abstention is important to maintain moral holiness in our avoidance of evil. It is only through holy distinction (being salt and light) that incarnation is possible and meaningful. Had Jesus met us where we were, but not maintained his holy distinction from us, his incarnati

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A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueThe Myth of the American Dream: https://www.amazon.com/Myth-American-Dream-Reflections-Affluence-ebook/dp/B07ZG7H9YV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=PFHTFMEVNUH4&keywords=myth+of+the+american+dream&qid=1647434301&sprefix=myth+of+the+american+dream%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1Salvian's "On the Government of God": https://www.amazon.com/Government-God-Salvian/dp/1785165054/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3T6FZW4FWAR7M&keywords=on+the+government+of+God&qid=1647434348&sprefix=on+the+government+of+go%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-4Anatomy of a Hybrid: https://www.amazon.com/anatomy-hybrid-study-church-state-relationships/dp/0802816150/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1WCC0NV62IKV1&keywords=anatomy+of+a+hybrid&qid=1647434378&sprefix=anatomy+of+a+hybri%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-1Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-Vicit-Agnus-Noster-ebook/dp/B0921S4YQZ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=XNOICV40747H&keywords=politics+of+jesus&qid=1647434421&sprefix=politics+of+jesus%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-3Havel's "Power of the Powerless": https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/wp-content/uploads/1979/01/the-power-of-the-powerless.pdfBonhoeffer Episode 1: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/se3-bonhoefferBonhoeffer Episode 2: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/47-se5-bonhoeffer-pacifist-or-assassinNiebuhr's "The King's Chapel and the King's Court": https://www.religion-online.org/article/the-kings-chapel-and-the-kings-court/ Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueBurke's "A Vindication of Natural Society": https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/edmund-burke-a-vindication-of-natural-society?v=1627919432 Hume's "Of the First Principles of Government": https://davidhume.org/texts/empl1/fp Graeber's "The Dawn of Everything": https://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Everything-New-History-Humanity-ebook/dp/B08R2KL3VY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2S2AMO72L5D0H&keywords=graeber+dawn+of+everything&qid=1647434039&sprefix=graeber+dawn+of+everythin%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueJason's book, "Fight Like Jesus": https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Like-Jesus-Waged-Throughout/dp/1513809342/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1A089L6PJ2UDH&keywords=fight+like+jesus&qid=1647963938&sprefix=fight+like+jesu%2Caps%2C219&sr=8-10:00 - Episode Introduction3:10 - Jason's Introduction11:50 - Jesus paying taxes to Caesar20:20 - How does submission and Romans 13 play out in a modern day context26:15 - If we can't bear the sword, can we be involved in government? Isn't abstaining from government retreatism?31:00 - How do we think about nonviolence when real life happens, like the war in Ukraine?42:15 - How does violence tend to do injustice primarily to the poor? How does nonviolence look like justice?52:10 - Is nonviolence idealistic? How ought Christians to pursue the ideal through community, or an alternative politic, the church?1:02:55 - What does it mean to be nonviolent and submissive in the face of oppressors?1:11:05 - The Passover as liberation vs. as atonement Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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*I misspoke and said that Baptists are essentially anabaptists. While Baptists do re-baptize, they are of a different strain than Anabaptists and not considered as such. A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueDan Carlin's "Painfotainment": https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-61-blitz-painfotainment/Verduin's "The Reformers and Their Stepchildren": https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueConstantine Revisited: https://www.amazon.com/Constantine-Revisited-Leithart-Constantinian-Debate/dp/1610978196/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1LEOL8H9FBDT5&keywords=constantine+revisited&qid=1644061866&sprefix=constantine+revisite%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1Verduin's Anatomy of a Hybrid: https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YE7GGBETOBZS&keywords=leonard+verduin&qid=1645881258&sprefix=leonard+verdui%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1Verduin's The Reformers and Their Stepchildren: https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YE7GGBETOBZS&keywords=leonard+verduin&qid=1645881258&sprefix=leonard+verdui%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1Luther's On the Jews and Their Lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_LiesRhineland Massacres: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacresHavel's Power of the Powerless: https://hac.bard.edu/amor-mundi/the-power-of-the-powerless-vaclav-havel-2011-12-23St. Francis and the Sultan: https://aleteia.org/2017/06/28/st-francis-and-the-sultan-an-encounter-of-peace-between-christians-and-muslims/Spanking Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/98-means-and-ends-spanking-part-2Benjamin Lay Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/draft-juneteenth-nonviolence-and-abolitionChristian Attitudes to War and Peace: https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Attitudes-War-Peace-Revolution/dp/1587432315/ref=sr_1_2?crid=P3EAQJBT5OOY&keywords=christian+attitudes+to+war+and+peace&qid=1645881846&sprefix=christian+attitudes+to+war+and+pea%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-2 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueConstantine Revisited: https://www.amazon.com/Constantine-Revisited-Leithart-Constantinian-Debate/dp/1610978196/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1LEOL8H9FBDT5&keywords=constantine+revisited&qid=1644061866&sprefix=constantine+revisite%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-1Verduin's Anatomy of a Hybrid: https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YE7GGBETOBZS&keywords=leonard+verduin&qid=1645881258&sprefix=leonard+verdui%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1Verduin's The Reformers and Their Stepchildren: https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YE7GGBETOBZS&keywords=leonard+verduin&qid=1645881258&sprefix=leonard+verdui%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueRothbard's "Anatomy of the State:" https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-State-LvMI/dp/B0817597XP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=K2HDFC92062U&keywords=murray+rothbard&qid=1644061364&sprefix=murray+rothbar%2Caps%2C182&sr=8-1"A Solemn Review of the Custom of War:" https://archive.org/details/solemnreviewofcu00worTolstoy's "What I Believe," or "My Religion:" https://archive.org/details/whatibelievemyr00tolsgoogBallou's "Christian Nonresistance in All Its Important Bearings:" https://archive.org/details/christiannonres00ballgoog Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueSeason Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xjGIXdNdoZWbN97kVOJk-t91i9V3FZ1u-1TdTsm5sc8/edit?usp=sharingThe Early Church on Killing: https://www.amazon.com/Early-Church-Killing-Comprehensive-Sourcebook-ebook/dp/B008846P1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=U2PVGRHOLMH8&keywords=The+Early+Church+on+Killing&qid=1645277213&sprefix=the+early+church+on+killing%2Caps%2C346&sr=8-1Early Christians in Their Own Words: https://www.amazon.com/Early-Christians-Their-Own-Words/dp/0874865964/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=2M0RLR6E23ORZ&keywords=eberhard+arnold&qid=1645277273&sprefix=ebberhard+ar%2Caps%2C460&sr=8-5Early Church Quotes Compilation: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/arguments-for-christian-pacifism-4-teaching-of-the-early-churchWhy the Early Church is Important: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/finished-importance-of-the-early-church-for-practice Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=truePsalm 341 I will extol the Lord at all times; his praise will always be on my lips.2 I will glory in the Lord; let the afflicted hear and rejoice.3 Glorify the Lord with me; let us exalt his name together.4 I sought the Lord, and he answered me; he delivered me from all my fears.5 Those who look to him are radiant; their faces are never covered with shame.6 This poor man called, and the Lord heard him; he saved him out of all his troubles.7 The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear him, and he delivers them.8 Taste and see that the Lord is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.9 Fear the Lord, you his holy people, for those who fear him lack nothing.10 The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing.11 Come, my children, listen to me; I will teach you the fear of the Lord.12 Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days,13 keep your tongue from evil and your lips from telling lies.14 Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.15 The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are attentive to their cry;16 but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth.17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.19 The righteous person may have many troubles, but the Lord delivers him from them all;20 he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken.21 Evil will slay the wicked; the foes of the righteous will be condemned.22 The Lord will rescue his servants; no one who takes refuge in him will be condemned. Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueSeason Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xjGIXdNdoZWbN97kVOJk-t91i9V3FZ1u-1TdTsm5sc8/edit?usp=sharingMe and Gideon Article: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-ministry-in-romania/me-and-gideonGenesis 41 and 47: 56 When the famine had spread over the whole country, Joseph opened all the storehouses and sold grain to the Egyptians, for the famine was severe throughout Egypt. 57 And all the world came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe everywhere......13 There was no food, however, in the whole region because the famine was severe; both Egypt and Canaan wasted away because of the famine. 14 Joseph collected all the money that was to be found in Egypt and Canaan in payment for the grain they were buying, and he brought it to Pharaoh’s palace. 15 When the money of the people of Egypt and Canaan was gone, all Egypt came to Joseph and said, “Give us food. Why should we die before your eyes? Our money is all gone.”16 “Then bring your livestock,” said Joseph. “I will sell you food in exchange for your livestock, since your money is gone.” 17 So they brought their livestock to Joseph, and he gave them food in exchange for their horses, their sheep and goats, their cattle and donkeys. And he brought them through that year with food in exchange for all their livestock.18 When that year was over, they came to him the following year and said, “We cannot hide from our lord the fact that since our money is gone and our livestock belongs to you, there is nothing left for our lord except our bodies and our land. 19 Why should we perish before your eyes—we and our land as well? Buy us and our land in exchange for food, and we with our land will be in bondage to Pharaoh. Give us seed so that we may live and not die, and that the land may not become desolate.”20 So Joseph bought all the land in Egypt for Pharaoh. The Egyptians, one and all, sold their fields, because the famine was too severe for them. The land became Pharaoh’s, 21 and Joseph reduced the people to servitude,[c] from one end of Egypt to the other. 22 However, he did not buy the land of the priests, because they received a regular allotment from Pharaoh and had food enough from the allotment Pharaoh gave them. That is why they did not sell their land.23 Joseph said to the people, “Now that I have bought you and your land today for Pharaoh, here is seed for you so you can plant the ground. 24 But when the crop comes in, give a fifth of it to Pharaoh. The other four-fifths you may keep as seed for the fields and as food for yourselves and your households and your children.”25 “You have saved our lives,” they said. “May we find favor in the eyes of our lord; we will be in bondage to Pharaoh.”26 So Joseph established it as a law concerning land in Egypt—still in force today—that a fifth of the produce belongs to Pharaoh. It was only the land of the priests that did not become Pharaoh’s.27 Now the Israelites settled in Egypt in the region of Goshen. They acquired property there and were fruitful and increased greatly in number. Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

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A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueSeason Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xjGIXdNdoZWbN97kVOJk-t91i9V3FZ1u-1TdTsm5sc8/edit?usp=sharingLord's Prayer as a fealty oath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOlIcfp8bEs"Jesus for President" (audio version rocks!): https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-for-President-audiobook/dp/B001N4CA9G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jesus+for+president&qid=1629773027&sr=8-1"The Day the Revolution Began": https://www.amazon.com/Day-Revolution-Began-audiobook/dp/B01KY0V6GC/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+day+the+revolution+began&qid=1629773068&s=audible&sr=1-1The Kingship of Jesus in the Gospel of John: https://www.amazon.com/Kingship-Jesus-Gospel-John/dp/1532617224/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+kingship+of+jesus+in+the+gospel+of+john&qid=1642054230&sprefix=kingship+in+the+gospel+of+john%2Caps%2C351&sr=8-1Jesus in a World of Colliding Empires V.1: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-World-Colliding-Empires-One-ebook/dp/B07C6134N3/ref=sr_1_9?crid=29CDWB1PHX67M&keywords=mark+keown&qid=1642054253&sprefix=mark+keown%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-9 World Upside Down: https://www.amazon.com/World-Upside-Down-Reading-Graeco-Roman/dp/0199767610/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3EMTGEHTY005P&keywords=world+upside+down&qid=1642054322&sprefix=world+upside+down%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueSeason Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xjGIXdNdoZWbN97kVOJk-t91i9V3FZ1u-1TdTsm5sc8/edit?usp=sharingAnarchochristian and Babel as the first government: https://www.anarchochristian.com/babel-the-first-government-ac054/Josephus "Antiquities of the Jews": https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2848/2848-h/2848-h.htmHeiser and the table of nations: http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htmThe Unseen Realm: https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Realm-Recovering-Supernatural-Worldview/dp/1683592719/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1629772689&sr=8-1The Temple wasn't desired: https://www.rivalnations.org/enoughisenough-temples/Josephus Quote: 1. Now the sons of Noah were three,—Shem, Japhet, and Ham, born one hundred years before the Deluge. These first of all descended from the mountains into the plains, and fixed their habitation there; and persuaded others who were greatly afraid of the lower grounds on account of the flood, and so were very loath to come down from the higher places, to venture to follow their examples. Now the plain in which they first dwelt was called Shinar. God also commanded them to send colonies abroad, for the thorough peopling of the earth, that they might not raise seditions among themselves, but might cultivate a great part of the earth, and enjoy its fruits after a plentiful manner. But they were so ill instructed that they did not obey God; for which reason they fell into calamities, and were made sensible, by experience, of what sin they had been guilty: for when they flourished with a numerous youth, God admonished them again to send out colonies; but they, imagining the prosperity they enjoyed was not derived from the favor of God, but supposing that their own power was the proper cause of the plentiful condition they were in, did not obey him. Nay, they added to this their disobedience to the Divine will, the suspicion that they were therefore ordered to send out separate colonies, that, being divided asunder, they might the more easily be Oppressed.2. Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grandson of Ham, the son of Noah, a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it was through his means they were happy, but to believe that it was their own courage which procured that happiness. He also gradually changed the government into tyranny, seeing no other way of turning men from the fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his power. He also said he would be revenged on God, if he should have a mind to drown the world again; for that he would build a tower too high for the waters to be able to reach! and that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their forefathers!3. Now the multitude were very ready to follow the determination of Nimrod, and to esteem it a piece of cowardice to submit to God; and they built a tower, neither sparing any pains, nor being in any degree negligent about the work: and, by reason of the multitude of hands employed in it, it grew very high, sooner than any one could expect; but the thickness of it was so great, and it was so strongly built, that thereby its great height seemed, upon the view, to be less than it really was. It was built of burnt brick, cemented together with mortar, made of bitumen, that it might not be liable to admit water. When God saw that they acted so madly, he did not resolve to destroy them utterly, since they were not grown wiser by the destruction of the former sinners; but he caused a tumult among them, by producing in them divers languages, and causing that, through the multitude of those languages, they should not be able to understand one another. The place wherein they built the tower is now called Babylon, because of the confusion of that language which they readily understood before; for the Hebrews mean by the word Babel, confusion. The Sibyl also makes mention of this tower, and of the confusion of the language, when she says thus: "When all men were of one language, some of them built a high tower, as if they would thereby ascend up to heaven, but the gods sent storms of wind and overthrew the tower, and gave every one his peculiar language; and for this reason it was that the c

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotMy Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=trueSeason Outline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xjGIXdNdoZWbN97kVOJk-t91i9V3FZ1u-1TdTsm5sc8/edit?usp=sharingKuhn's "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions": https://www.amazon.com/Structure-Scientific-Revolutions-Published-University/dp/B00HMVLURM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2WZI9G015F0H9&dchild=1&keywords=kuhn+structure+of+scientific+revolutions&qid=1629772326&sprefix=kuhn+struc%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-2Season on Nonviolence: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/the-case-for-christian-nonviolence-uncovering-biases Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/Christian Peace and Nonviolence: https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Peace-Nonviolence-Documentary-History/dp/1570759227/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?cv_ct_cx=christian+peace+and+nonviolence&dchild=1&keywords=christian+peace+and+nonviolence&pd_rd_i=1570759227&pd_rd_r=d94f26a1-8200-44e1-936f-2136a457576d&pd_rd_w=IYXD4&pd_rd_wg=d4ihm&pf_rd_p=1835a2a9-7ed8-48dc-ad07-fcd7527bd2bc&pf_rd_r=HDQF88BTQ7TES366MZ0W&psc=1&qid=1607232720&sr=1-1-80ba0e26-a1cd-4e7b-87a0-a2ffae3a273cLetter to Diognetus Quote: "What the soul is in the body, THAT Christians are in the world... Theflesh hates the soul and treats it as an enemy, even though it hassuffered no wrong, because it is prevented from enjoying itspleasures; so too the world hates Christians, even though it suffersno wrong at their hands, because they range themselves against itspleasures. The soul loves the flesh that hates it, and its members; inthe same way, Christians love those who hate them... The soul, whenfaring badly as to food and drink, grows better; so too Christians,when punished, day by day increase more and more. It is to no less apost than this that God has ordered them, and they must not try toevade it." Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/The Doctrine of Other: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-doctrine-of-otherLiving Gently in a Violent World: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Gently-Violent-World-Prophetic/dp/0830834966/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=living+gently+in+a+violent+world&qid=1607233092&s=books&sr=1-1Strong and Weak: https://www.amazon.com/Strong-Weak-Embracing-Life-Flourishing/dp/0830844430/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Strong+and+weak&qid=1607233059&s=books&sr=1-2The Patient Ferment of the Early Church: https://www.amazon.com/Patient-Ferment-Early-Church-Christianity/dp/0801048494/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=patient+ferment+of+the+early+church&qid=1607233122&s=books&sr=1-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/On A Day When Men Were Counted: https://hymnary.org/text/on_a_day_when_men_were_counted#:~:text=On%20a%20day%20when%20men%20were%20counted%2C%20God,silent%20shepherds%20watched%20their%20flocks%20upon%20the%20plain%2CJesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes: https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Through-Middle-Eastern-Eyes/dp/0830825681/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jesus+through+middle+eastern+eyes&qid=1607265457&sr=8-1 Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/God's in the Flesh: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/gods-in-the-flesh Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ The Historic Faith Courses: https://thehistoricfaith.com/ Thanks to our monthly supporters J Phillip Mast Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★