The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The boys welcome Namely CEO Larry Dunivan to the show to talk industry history, leadership, issues of diversity and inclusion, as well as a growth strategy and whether or not an IPO is in the offing. It's rare to find a CEO who has worked from the bottom to the very top of the HR software industry ladder. It's even rarer for a CEO to have industry experience combined with the ability to understand software, systems, sales, marketing, and infrastructure since before the days of mainstream internet adoption. Larry Dunivan is that rare CEO. Corporate leaders, wannabe leaders, DEI proclaimers, and every HR and recruiting industry vendor should have this interview on a continuous loop. You're welcome!

The weather is getting cooler in America, but we can lucky still stay warm with the hot embers of the ongoing CareerBuilder dumpster fire. This time, our favorite old-timey job board is rebranding with a new logo and ad campaign. Mmmm, toasty. We also dive into the new investment at The Mom Project and play some buy-or-sell with a couple of internationally focused companies and one "Salesforce for recruiting" wannabe. Watch out Gem! To end the show, we take a break from porn and prostitutes to focus on the growth of Africa and Big Tech's continental invasion, featuring Google, Facebook, and Microsoft.

Germany's new chancellor is named Olaf, which is also the name of the snowman from Frozen. Where are we going with this? No clue, but this episode of all-things-Euro is packed with goodness, including France's Freelance.com going all-in on growing operations by gobbling up everything in sight, apparently. What else? Rich companies in the EU are leveraging government policy to get cheap and free labor from poorer countries to join their ranks, while the EV business is set to dislodge some 500,000 auto workers from the European workforce, which makes re-skilling that much more important. Or maybe apprenticeships, powered by unicorn-in-training Multiverse, has the answers. Hard questions. This calls for another round. Prost!

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The last time we brought Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas - authors of "Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out." - on the podcast sparks flew and listeners couldn't get enough. So we're adding to the Move Fast and Break Shit hits with COVID Workplace Whiplash! Check out more information and their free e-book at catalystconstellations.com

Love unicorns? This episode of your favorite podcast has two, baby! That's right, Gem and Andela have joined the ranks of the $1 billion club. And by the looks of a few others on this week's show, more could be coming with Syndio raising $50 million this week and Cocoon getting a plump Series A. We also ask whether or not chatbots are all the same, or are some just posers in life's big taco stand? Then we welcome October the right way with Amazon scaring the hell out of us for the low, low cost of $1,000.

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Think your pandemic policies and practices were a lot to deal with? Try cat-herding a 30,000-person company. That's just what Commscope faced and Head of Global TA Julia Levy is on the show to talk about just how they did it, and shares a lot of the questions still unanswered. It's a candid discussion on a challenge a lot of companies are facing, but are too afraid to talk about. Julia puts it all on the table and it's a discussion anyone in the world of HR and TA should not miss. Brought to you by those texting fanatics over at Nexxt. Do you need better engagement and deeper penetration into your talent pools? Call Nexxt!

We throw the kitchen sink at this one. Three IPOs, five startups in rapid Buy-or-Sell, a new unicorn, LinkedIn taking on Upwork and Fiverr with its evolving gig marketplace, and the People's Champion is apparently a former Walmart employee. “F**k management, and f**k this job, I quit.” Power to the people, powered as always by our sponsors Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite .

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Since the beginning of the pandemic, Sweden has been an outlier, hoping that bypassing lockdowns and instead, bracing herd immunity would win the day. Well, it hasn't worked out very well, and the country is grappling with next steps. That's why we've brought Sweden's Elin Martenzon, Tengai Unbiased CEO, to discuss the state of her country. You'll learn why Sept. 29 is such a big day. Then we travel to Italy, where the continent's first COVID passport mandate is about to be implemented. The answer to whether or not the rest of Europe will follow suit may surprise you. You want acquisitions? We got acquisitions, covering Amsterdam-based Impraise getting gobbled up by San Francisco-based unicorn BetterUp.

Matching is hot, but no one has cracked the SMB market. Enter The Sieve. Yeah, we know, horrible name, but how's the tech, strategy, and team? COO and co-founder Michael Yinger, an industry veteran who's done time at PeopleScout and Randstad, thinks he's got some good answers. But listeners know Chad & Cheese will have the final word on this startup that's looking to face the Firing Squad unscathed. Does he come out alive? Gotta listen to find out. Firing Squad is brought to you by those crazy programmatic geniuses over at Pandologic. Get better results with a more targeted approach to attracting candidates? Check out Pandologic.com!

You want some PPC? How about Porn, Politics, and Canvas. Boy, this week's show has it all. Firing Squad alums Canvas (no, not that Canvas) and Humanly grabbed some investment money and some juicy new valuations, while Glassdoor makes a fishy acquisition that Chad compares to Dice's dumb stake in The Muse. A battle is brewing between traditional ATS's and the bots of the future. Who ya' got? Chad & Cheese sound off. Also, Salesforce messes with Texas and gets political, as they have a tendency to do. Of course, we had to end on a story we're describing as revenge porn 2.0. Creepy? Oh yeah! This cornucopia of goodness is brought to you by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite!

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Are Gig Workers Full-Time Employees? Debate Playing Out in Europe. Whether or not gig workers will eventually be considered full-time employees is an ongoing debate in parts of the U.S. - think Prop 22 in California - but in Europe, many of these decisions are playing out for us, and the boys dig into this and other topics with special guest Matt Alder of The Recruiting Future Podcast. Also covered is how Google has been illegally underpaying thousands of temporary workers in dozens of countries, including many in Europe. Lastly, the show dives into the recent investment in startup Applied, known for its unbiased hiring service, and whether or not the trend of diversity hiring hits the same in Europe as it does in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Don't call it a comeback Diversity Equity and Inclusion has been here for years, but... It's finally starting to see it's time in the sun as DEI efforts start to see real budgets and efforts focused on hiring outcomes, retention, and promotions of under-represented communities. LISTEN Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.

Who should own the employer brand? HR? Talent Acquisition? or maybe, oh I don't know... MARKETING!?!? Brandon Linn oversees employer brand marketing and social media while reporting to Marketing. It's a refreshing look at the past, present, and future of the EB profession, with a sobering perspective on how to sell marketing on recruiting, and vice versa. Enjoy this exclusive brought to you by the mad A.I. parsing and matching skills of Sovren.

Football is in the air and Hail Mary's are flyin' all over the place this week. Dice pumped $3 million into The Muse ... can you say midlife crisis? Indeed's master plan. Yes, the seeds of CPAS can be found as far back at 2016 (yep, we did the research) ...but then they neurodiversity themselves - so dumb. What else? Amazon is encouraging its contractors to bypass weed background checks, Trucking gets a good dose of tech with YouCruit's Lanefinder, and Harvard says automation is to blame for our unemployment problem. It's another touchdown episode powered by our biggest cheerleaders, JobAdx, Sovren, and Jobvite.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is the final episode of this 5 part binge-able series. We pick up the conversation around a debate in HR about augmentation vs. robots enjoy. TOPICS: - Augmentation over Robots - Building Recruitment Teams - Wage inequity solutions - Moving Fast and Breaking Shit!

welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 4 or a 5 part binge-able series. You're gonna love this episode! TOPICS: - The Great Resignation - Talent Pipelines are not instant - Where are the robots?!? - AI is a puppy

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 3 or a 5 part binge-able series. We pick up the conversation around building a Talent Solutions team from the ground up - enjoy! TOPICS: - Building Teams - Is AI sourcing the futrure? - Overbuilt job descriptions - Does social media drive hires?

Welcome back to VOICES w/ Amy Butchko SAIC's Director of Talent Acquisition Solutions. This is episode 2 or a 5 part binge-able series. We pick up the conversation with me challenging Amy on hiring company "special self-inflicted needs" when it comes to technology and yes I just used air quotes - enjoy! TOPICS: - Imploding your hiring process - Engineering a new apply process - Marketing infused nurturing and hiring - CROs are people too... and they have budget :)

Hey it's Chad, it's been a minute since we've had a deep dive VOICES series and after speaking with Amy Butchko, SAIC's Director of Talent Solutions I knew a single 20-minute podcast wouldn't be enough and instead of dropping these one podcast at a time we're doing it Netflix style so you can easily discover and binge the entire series - enjoy! TOPICS: - Internet Recruitment 2000 - From Rolodex to automation - The rise of Jobs2Web? - Why don't employers fix their shitty UX?

Nobody likes boring, but you will enjoy some highly profitable tech sprinkled in with a little messaging cool shit here and there, On this week's pod: Background check solution (zzzzz) Checkr now has a $4.6 billion valuation after raising $250 million. Workstream and TalkPush are making big waves in the messaging space - one of which hopes to turn Instagram into a recruitment juggernaut! Then Solo, a well pedigreed and funded Seattle-based startup that is empowering gig workers to make more. And who wins the DARWIN AWARD this week? ZipRecruiter or LinkedIn? Enjoy another enlightened episode, powered as always by Sovren, Jobvite, and JobAdx.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

What do you get when you mash up 4 podcasts into one? Lots of voices and even more opinions. > Debbie Tuel from The Joy Podcast > Julie Sowash and Torin Ellis from Crazy and The King podcast > and Tim Sackett from the HR Famous podcast join the boys to talk about: - Why are recruiters so damn hard to find? - Does recruiter experience matter? - Why is Europe a decade behind on the US in DEI? - and when will women come back to the workforce, specifically recruiting? - Are companies doing enough in DEI? - It's People, Process, Technology dummy! - Working harder is not a sustainable business strategy This show coming to you pre-recorded from Transform Detroit LIVE brought to you by Symphony Talent. Enjoy!

Video recruiting is red hot right now. All the kids are doing it, which also means only a few will get to sit at the cool table at lunchtime. This leads us to Willo, a spunky startup from Scotland who thinks they can bring video to the masses. Automation? A.I.? Machine learning? Nah, that's not the play. Instead, free forever and an aggressive integration strategy are at the heart of this company. Sounds nice, but will it pass the Firing Squad? Gotta listen to find out. Firing Squad is supported by the genius-level programmatic jobs and performance-driven platform we all know as PANDOLOGIC! Target the right candidates and spend less cash by using Pandologic today!

The recruiting industry behaves like a chess game sometimes. Pieces can move slowly or quickly, pieces get taken off the board and some get added over time. And like chess, the players who see many moves ahead tend to be the biggest winners. This week saw a lot of chess gamin’. The most impressive move was made by Paradox, but Job.com and Compono made moves too. Another player in iCIMS filed for an IPO to help it reload. Additionally this week, Apple was in the news, along with Uber and Lyft and OnlyFans made its way into the podcast for its second straight week. Enjoy another masterpiece powered by Sovren, JobAdx and Jobvite.

For the first time, Google has chosen a company from the recruitment tech space for their Start-up Business Accelerator Program. LISTEN FOR MORE :) Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.

Europe continues to be a hotbed of trends revolving around remote work. Turns out, there are a lot of different directions this rollercoaster can go. It's not just about, "Will we or won't we go hybrid?" That's why we invited Berlin-based HeyJobs founder and CEO Marius Luther on, along with Lieven, to sort it all out. From a shortcoming at Google for Jobs to capturing talent in other Euros to employees taking advantage of companies who allow a WFH option, this episode has it all.

It's The Shred a mini Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash Paradox Chief Product Officer Adam Godson said "the acquisition will serve an essential and powerful purpose: Removing hurdles for hourly candidates trying to find a job fast, and further simplifying hiring for managers and high-volume recruiting teams, who often operate under serious time constraints." LISTEN FOR MORE... The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology -- Recruitology brings artificial intelligence - that's AI kids - to job posting and distribution for employers large and small. Start posting your jobs using Recruitology today at recruitology.com/employers

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology

ACQUISITIONS -- FUNDING -- and mechanical fortune tellers? WTAF is going on during this week's show? Well, the boys are all over the place, talkin' acquisitions: Sourcr Jobillico and Lessonly. As well as investments in: Anthill and Retrain.ai, the Zoltar of hiring tech (a competitor Pymetrics.) Then the LinkedIn-for-doctors, Doximity, is crushing it, along with a nurse who's now making bank on OnlyFans. Oh, and COVID ... sorry to end on such a down note. Another orgasm for your ears, powered by Jobvite, JobAdx, and Sovren.

When Indeed goes from $33-per to $300-per-applicant it's time to burn it down, build up something new, and then look to the future to rinse and repeat. Seriously, can imagine discovering your cost-per-applicant on Indeed has gone from $33-per to $300-per-applicant. Well, that's just what happened to Jenny Cotie Kangas, director of digital experience and TA at Regis Corp. The boys dig into Jenny's story, her interactions with Indeed, and what she's done since to right the ship going forward. It's a cautionary tale every employer should know, so listen up! After burning it to the ground you'll want to build your talent systems back with the best matching software in the industry. Sovren, AI so powerful it's scary. Scary good :)

Social media is hotter than ever! Okay put your phone down it's not time to check Tiktok for pet videos and NBA highlights! You'll want to hear all the latest background check trends with social media with the president of Social Intelligence Social Screening Bianca Lager. Should screening social media be a standard hiring procedure? Is social screening even more important during the age of remote work? What about detecting bias and intolerance? You'll hear answers to those questions and much more in this Nexxt-powered podcast!

Zip a-de-do-da, zip-a-de ZipRecruiter! Since going public in May, the No. 2 job site in the US has been on a tear, and the boys outline everything, including a Facebook partnership and an assault on Glassdoor. We play Remote Rapid Fire and break down reopening headlines from Google, LinkedIn, Amazon and much more. And don’t call it a comeback! Job boards are back in fashion, kinda like Cheesman’s fanny pack. It's another blockbuster sponsored by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite.

The Olympics are over, but Chad & Cheese’s quest for the European gold medal for podcasting is just beginning. This week, Lieven gets all fired up about Adecco buying up a company in his own backyard in Belgium. Author Katrina Collier joins the crew to talk about Indeed’s recent move to CPAS over CPC and the overall issues of assclowns crawling the web for job content to rip off job seekers and legit businesses. Rounding out the show is a hailstorm of commentary on the recent move of Cornerstone OnDemand going private. Word of 2021 in the Old Country? Douchebaggery.

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Swapping spit. That's how Venesa Klein describes the never-ending shuffling going on in the C-suite these days, swapping one female executive with another one. And around we go, failing to give fresher talent the chance to shine. In this show, the boys peel the onion and let Venessa of Calibre One cook up some tasty education on the problems of solutions of equality in the workplace. Ol' Boys Club beware. Supported by Sovren, AI so human you'll want to take it to dinner.

Indeed Sucks ... and Swallows This week, you get not one but two Indeed dipsy-doo, switcheroos. First, they're moving away from the PPC model that helped make them a multi-billion dollar business. Second, they don't really like how employers are engaging with candidates on their event product, so they just shut 'em down from pre-show communications. Beyond Indeed, the boys are talkin' a new unicorn CultureAmp, LinkedIn limits, a lipstick-on-a-pig acquisition, Target telling Walmart to stick it, and, oh yeah, Buy-or-Sell where one of our fearless cohosts goes three Sell ratings in a row. Enjoy this Sovren, Jobvite & JobAdx powered episode.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Like Harvard MBAs and Ivy League pedigrees? How about best-selling books written by industry entrepreneurs? Well, you're in luck, as Jeff Wald, author of The End of Jobs, comes on the podcast and chats the history of his company WorkMarket (sold to ADP), whether or not the iPhone could've been built by a remote team and whether or not college is bologna for high school grads. And that's just the first 10 mins. Buckle up for this no-holds interview powered by our friends at NEXXT!

Remember when you thought Microsoft had lost their collective mind when they dropped $26.2 billion for LinkedIn? HA! Well, it looks like Microsoft is going to have the last laugh because LinkedIn is crushing it. And who’s not crushing it? How about Monster and Job.com? Shocker, right? Of course, there’s more WFH and COVID insanity that the boys cover. How about some MadMen, 2021-style? Got that too. Oh, and Walmart does some good (suck it, Amazon!)

Investment dollars are flowing into workforce tech globally, and Europe is no stranger to big deals. You're going to need a bigger boat though, because we have a giant shark on the show to dig into M&A strategy in the space. How big? How about $400 for starters. House of HR CEO Rika Coppens joins the boys to talk acquisition strategy, as well as dig into some numbers behind programmatic solutions and Google for Jobs.

Don't call it a chatbot, they've been here for years... Seriously, call 'em chatbots, conversational AI, or fancy experience and productivity tools. It really doesn't matter if you don't understand the role of the tech and the solution to your everyday problems. ENTER the 2021 Conversational AI Report by friend of the show Madeline Laurano and Aptitude Research. During this podcast, we dig into some major points and tease others. We ask: Isn't this tech already part of our everyday routine? Can conversation AI be more than a point solution? Is conversational AI more than a high-volume play? Can the ATS and CRM platforms even compete? Again, Madeline has pulled together amazing intel that every Talent Acquisition, Recruiting, and Human Resources professional should download, digest, and share with their teams. Enjoy the overview, brought to you by those wonderful kids over at Sovren.com. Sovren, was into parsing and AI matching before it was cool. Sovren, AI so human you'd like to take it to dinner.

If you thought last week's show was a blockbuster, wait until you get a load of this week's episode. Here's a taste: CareerBuilder has a new CEO, PandoLogic has been acquired and SmartRecruiters is a unicorn. Want more? How about a battle between Kroger and Walmart for who's the bigger douchebag? Still not enough? How about porn stars at conservative Christian conferences for teens. Yep, you're welcome. Thank your friends at Sovren, Jobvite, and JobAdX.

Lieven has given up on Futbol everybody. Nevertheless, grab your Italian football jersey and enjoy a Guinness, 'cause this Euro show has your name written all over it. The boys welcome Boundless founder Dee Coakley, a Dubliner, to the show to talk about her company's recent round of funding, as well as chime in on all of this week's topics. In addition: Hungary is starving for immigrant workers, Iceland is changing the game when it comes to workforce well-being, testing a 4-day work week, but what does that mean for the rest of Europe (and the world)? Lastly, France is putting a chokehold on Google and Big Tech's inability to play nicely with the country's media properties. Is it a tax Google just pays, or will they really help save journalism? And what European companies pile on next? Gotta listen. Grab a couple of Guinness, this is gonna take a minute :)

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Are you an imposter? A fraud? Is that feeling self-imposed? Is anything in the workplace really self-imposed? Is the term "Karen" just a mechanism to manipulate? Wow, that got weird and deep fast, right? Imposter syndrome is loosely defined as doubting your abilities and feeling like a fraud. It disproportionately affects high-achieving people, who find it difficult to accept their accomplishments. Many times, women in the corporate world are impacted the most. All reasons to bring on Jess Von Bank to discuss this important issue and how we might be able to remedy this systemic problem that's unequally plagued the workplace for decades. This smack of reality is supported by our friends at Nexxt. Here's some reality, people respond to texts and yet you're still emailing. Call Nexxt and ask them about how you can increase response rates and candidate engagement with text.