The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The U.S. Marines have made a career out of recruiting based on letting 18-year-olds know how tough and challenging becoming a Marine actually is. It's a concept that can also work for businesses of all sizes. That's why we invited Charlotte Marshall, director, global employer brand & recruitment marketing expert & best selling author of “Give and Get Employer Branding Repel the Many and Compel the Few with Impact, Purpose and Belonging” on the podcast. In it, Charlotte reveals why the most effective employer brands don’t attract candidates; they repel them. This episode is part of our Cult Brand series, sponsored by RecruitmentMarketing.com and the boys are joined by Julie Calli.

It's The Shred a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash This Shred entails two big moves from two big brands. RUMOR ALERT #1 -- SmartRecruiters c-level cuts RUMOR ALERT #2 -- Snagajob reduction

Quiet quitting, boomeranging and petitioning ... Oh my! This episode has it all. In addition to covering some of the hottest trends in work this week, the boys cover big news out of iCIMS and play some Buy-or-Sell with Sabanto, Growthspace, and Modern Loop (again). Plus, Lowe's latest news is a down-low, dirty shame, and Indeed gets into bed with TikTok. Your ears are already thanking you, aren't they?

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Love a good ole fashioned unicorn cage match? How about some buy-or-sell with three of Europe’s hottest recruiting startups? This episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Dies Europe has all that, featuring HiBob, Personio, Haystack, RoleShare, and more. We even throw in chicken Big Macs, dancing PMs, and the state of healthcare recruiting vendors on the continent. Lieven and The Boys bring their A-Game to this one. Enjoy.

Steve Pemberton is Best Selling Author, Philanthropist, Acclaimed Speaker, and Senior Level Executive. He wasn't given a chance in the world; he proved them wrong. Steve's chance is now focused on change. In this interview we talk about the pace of change, the fluidity of change, scaling belief and purpose, the end state of remote work, the future of equity, who was responsible for getting companies through the pandemic, and more. Steve was not given a chance in the world and now he's changing it. Enjoy!

What recession? This week, we have two new unicorns and another on its way in HiBob, Incredible Health and 15Five. Needless to say, however, we're not particularly bullish on every one. What's more, Whole Foods says, "Get off my lawn," and Adam Neuman of WeWork fame goes full Svengali on his new startup, Flow, to the tune of $350 million for an idea that will allegedly take form sometime in 2023. What could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, we even talk about LinkedIn's "crying CEO" that's blowing up the socials this week. You're welcome! Now go sign-up for a chance to win free stuff at www.chadcheese.com.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Your life really isn't complete until you've gotten a complete breakdown of the past, present, and future of recruiting chatbots. That's why we asked PandoLogic CTO Sumit Gupta on the podcast to get a breakdown. Turns out, that chatbot may not be the correct label, considering job seekers have interviews with virtual Brad Pitt and Darth Vader to look forward to. Yeah, really. You gotta listen to this episode if you want a real taste of the future of recruiting. Or at least one company's vision of it.

There is no labor shortage. At least that's the position taken by Sean Behr, CEO at Fountain, a solution for industries with high turnover. Nope. There's a SPEED shortage, instead. What the hell does that mean? The boys dig into his theses and tackle a wide variety of high frequency hiring issues plaguing so many companies these days in the process. A must-listen for employers having issues hiring truckers, nurses, restaurant staff, warehouse workers ... yeah, OK, pretty much all essential workers.

Maybe we should have named this episode Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Moving to Crazy Town? Remember the '80s movie "Three Men and a Baby"? This episode could be called "Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Who's Lost Their Damned Mind!" Silkroad Technologies acquired Entelo, Harver bought pymetrics and Mitratech gobbled up TalentReef. Can you guess which acquisition we like? Gotta listen. Then we take a trip to Crazy Town, where old-timey job distribution service provider eQuest has made the mother of all pivots, and the boys can't quite make sense of it (but want a hit of whatever they're smoking'). Oh, and Home Depot ends the show with a bit of sanity and common sense. Enjoy!

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Europe is surging! Travel is way up, the cash is flowing and employers of all shapes and sizes are embracing the continent, in light of Covid being in the rearview mirror. Most notably, London is the world's hottest new destination for employers and innovative companies, while Spotify is giving us a blueprint for increased retention, greater diversity and salary equality. Why, exactly? Gotta listen. And if that wasn't enough, the boys sit down with Elke Moerenhout, a marketing manager at Jobat, one of the top job boards in Belgium, to chat about the importance of employer brand and how to harness it in the fight for top talent.

Make yourself comfortable, boys and girls, because it's story time. On this episode, the boys bring Tim Dineen, co-founder, and chief innovation officer at Recruitics on the show. For those who don't know Tim, he was also the search engine optimization brains at Indeed back in the 00s. It's fair to say Indeed wouldn't be Indeed without Tim, which is why we rev-up the "way back machine" and pull back the covers on the early days of Indeed, as well as what the future may hold. For those who aren't students of history, don't worry, we spend plenty of time talking about the current state of recruitment tech and the future.

If Chad & Cheese ever opened a restaurant, this episode might give you an idea of the menu items. In addition to talking about the acquisition of Lever by Employ (Jobvite, JazzHR), layoffs at you favorite companies, and Tesla putting its ATS in the rearview mirror, food and beverage take center stage. Big news out of Taco Bell, Chik-fil-A, and your favorite beer distributors. Kinda job-related. Anyone else hungry?

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Don't believe the headlines. Hiring competent developers is still really, really challenging. One start-up that's helping solve the quandary for companies is Turing, who - by the way - has already raised $153 million to cure what ails employers. Jonathan Siddharth, CEO and founder at Turing, joins the boys to discuss what makes Turing different, how Upwork gets it wrong, and why pay transparency and equality are still such a hurdle.

If you love burritos, pizza and virtual reality - and who doesn't - then this episode's for you! Or should I say if you love automation, call centers and workforce training, this one's for you? Oh hell, you'll just have to listen if you're not following. What else? Job.com goes shopping and its CEO gets salty with the media. Glassdoor may not be as anonymous as it wants you to believe and we play a little Who'd Ya' Rather with HireArt and InternMatch. Now, put that in your Barbacoa Bowl and smoke it!

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Bullhorn Develops Taste for European Startups After stints in places like Scotland, Portugal, and Finland, the boys are finally back behind and microphone and ready to drop some European recruiting knowledge. That means a deep dive into the state of, and some disagreement on, young workers on the continent (spoiler alert: big differences between the north and south), then dissecting the recent acquisition by Bullhorn, gobbling up A.I. recruiting solution SourceBreaker. Plus, a little Buy-or-Sell with Veremark, Distributed, and Screenloop (which recently got angel investing from an Indeed cofounder).

After a 2-week hiatus, the boys are back from Recfest and some R &R in Europe and ready to rip shit up. In their crosshairs? CareerBuilder, Remote.com, SHRM, SmartRecruiters, and even Burger King all feel the burn. Plus, a conspiracy theory from Chad, a 20-year Army veteran, on the state of military recruitment you don't want to miss. It'll be like they never left. You're welcome!

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Most reunions suck. You have to pretend to look younger, more successful, and skinnier than you really are. And then there are those stupid name tags with your senior picture on them. Don't even get me started. Anyway, other reunions - like Firing Squad reunions - are awesome! That's why we invited Firing Squad alum Honeit, and their CEO Nick Livingston back on the show after 4 years to see how things are going. Spoiler alert: They're going pretty well. How well? Gotta listen.

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

What three tech trends do you see holding the limelight this decade? Chad & Cheese recently joined the podcast Tech Talks to discuss the hottest topics in recruitment. Time to get enlightened on what is set to trail (and fail) in tech today! Spoiler alert: Automation is here to stay, and more than that, more than 50% of jobs could be replaced by automation by 2030! Check out the hot takes on what the boys think employers need to keep an eye on, AND, what you may need to drop!

For as long as employee assessments have been around, they're still largely a mystery to most employers. Sort of like witchcraft or a pagan ritual from the Middle Ages, most companies enter the assessment game with a lot of confusion and fear. That's why we invited Plum's Caitlin MacGregor co-founder and CEO on the podcast to make sense of it all and relieve listeners from the pain assessment tests can sometimes bring. We're talkin' death of resumes, threats to employer branding, and being stuck in World War II technology. Don't worry. It'll all make sense, and you'll feel a lot better if you're in the market for assessment solutions. Plus, Caitlin is Canadian, which means her commentary goes down as smoothly as a cold Moosehead or a warm serving of maple syrup. You're welcome, eh.

Humans have been telling stories for as long as we've been around. So, it's no surprise employers who tell the best stories are typically the ones who get the best workers. It matters. That's why we invited Patrick Hodgdon, VP of marketing at hot startup FactoryFix on the Cult Brand Series with RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli to explore what companies are doing right, and most importantly wrong when it comes to storytelling.

Hiring is tough for many different verticals and in many ways, the trucking industry is nothing more than a microcosm of those hiring fails and pains. Maybe it's time for trucking to undergo a rebrand? Maybe it's much more than that? That's why Chad & Cheese join the Yard Jockeys podcast to talk about the ins and outs of recruiting. They put their heads together to try and figure out trucking's problem and come up with a possible solution. B.J. and the Bear from the '70s anyone?

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s been acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Love recruiting news out of Germany? Then you're going to love this week's show. Deutschland is blowing up! The boys are talkin' Personio becoming Europe's most valuable privately-owned HR tech company, WorkMotion raising money to take on Remote, Deel, Oyster, Velocity Global and others in the global employer-of-record provider market, and unicorn-in-training NowJobs has opened its doors in Germany. We even interview NowJobs GM and cofounder Eline Davis on the state of the business. Plus, we all learn the meaning of the word bumpkin. Viel Spaß!

Independence Day is upon us and this week’s show is more exciting than an alien invasion, minus the Will Smith. It’s full of tragedy: 27 states’ employment websites have suffered a cyber-attack. It’s got takeovers: Deel acquires a foothold in APAC. Lives being saved: Nomad Health grows its healthcare pie to empower nurses nationwide. Cash money: Pave hopes to bring salary management to a global workforce. It’s even got nuclear-powered hotel flights and some Josh Bersin bashing (Chad’s favorite). You’re welcome. Commence the fireworks and chill the PBR!

If you heard a B-list actor, but an A-list corporate spy was on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, would you listen? Well, today's your lucky day. The boys welcome Robert Kerbeck, author of "Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street," to the podcast. Through a career that started in the '80s, peaked during the Y2K scare and continues today through folklore, the podcast explores tips and tricks - not only for corporate espionage - but for recruiting / poaching, job searching, and even corporate security. Oh, and there are stories about O.J., Madonna, and Steve Jobs too. Enjoy.

Is the future of recruiting entirely automated? Is it more of the same? Some think it's a hybrid. That's why we invited Joss Leufrancois, CEO of Visage, to come on Firing Squad and tell us about their solution which helps combine the best of both worlds. But is A.I. and traditional sourcing a match made in heaven or are they on a collision course to the depths of hell? Ooooh, dramatic. Gotta listen to find out.

Who doesn't love a good underdog story? The upstart hoping to make noise in an established market. That's why you'll love this weekly episode. Jobget looks to take on Jobcase and Snagajob with a new round of funding. Fountain puts on the gloves to fight against the Old Guard ATS business. Cornerstone OnDemand acquires an old business to supercharge a new one. Buy-or-Sell with -- CEIPAL, Wilco, and Canditech is full of startups looking to dislodge the status quo. ...and then there's Amazon, which really doesn't fit the underdog narrative, but hey, did you expect perfection from this podcast? Of course not. But we throw in some shrimp Po' Boys to make you feel better about life. Enjoy.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Summer is officially here and things are really starting to heat-up in Europe. Adzuna and Textkernel just made some really interesting acquisitions. TestGorilla wants to be, um, the 800-lb. gorilla in the assessment space. And Paris-based CleverConnect has "merged" with Munich-based Talentry in what is destined to become another marriage made in heaven between France and Germany (insert sarcasm). Lieven is out sick this week, but Bas Van Haterd from the Netherlands is here to fill-in.

Okay people, aren't we asking way too much of recruiters? Source, outreach, schedule, interview, provide a white glove experience and don't forget about creating, distributing, and engaging on original and genuine content. Wait, content? Well, on this week's Cult Brand podcast Chad and Julie bring employer brand veterans Chloe Rada and Allison Kruse to discuss practical recruiter enablement tips and tricks. From winning hearts with data to filling minds, equipping hands, and winning hearts. You're welcome!

While Joel wanders the Canadian plains petting Moose and trying to convince Canadian geese to stay in Canada we are honored to have Jenny Cotie Kangas, aka JCK, stepping into the guest host slot and on this week's show EUROPE is HUNGRY, the world will soon be over now that Google's version of Skynet is ALIVE, Microsoft is kinder and gentler and who knew business coaching was so damned important? Who knew? Strap-in kids it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

The Wild Wild West wasn't just a hit song from Kool Moe Dee in the '80s, it's also how workers' rights expert and Senior Policy Counsel for Worker Privacy with the Center for Democracy & Technology, Matt Scherer describes the current state of A.I. in the world of work. With lawsuits, state-by-state regulations and minefields as far as the eye can see, this interview is a must for employers looking to buy A.I. recruiting tools, vendors building A.I. tools and for everyone in between. Are we any closer to taming the Wild West? Gotta listen to find out.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Life is getting pretty stressful for workers. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt have us all on edge. That's why the health and well-being of your employees have taken on new importance. Enter Amploi.ai, and its founder Trung Tran, who's busy building a company to make the health monitoring of workers a snap. Confused? Just think of your Apple Watch letting your employer know when you're stressed out, so they can give some support. Sound like an invasion of privacy? You might be on to something ... or not. Gotta listen to see what Chad & Cheese think.

TexkKernel continues its acquisition ways with this new deal. #LISTEN

Unicorn alert! 🦄🦄🦄😍 Multiverse, a startup that hopes to make apprenticeships commonplace, has joined the ranks of the billion-dollar valuation club. And the boys are as excited about it as the Marvel Multiverse ... maybe even more. Less so enthusiastic is Ripple Match, who also just raised a bunch of cash to help college kids get jobs (stop us if you think you've heard this one before). Fizzy drink Bubly embraces the LBGTQ community and Buy-or-Sell with Hourly, Teal and Five to Nine is played on this episode as well. And capping off a solid effort, a pet psychic is proving once again that a sucker is born every minute.

On this week's Fromage-free show we have insider reactions to the "Bain Capital House of HR Party", then the UK revives the spirit of Florence Nightengale through technology, and wait... Are we still talking about job boards? You're goddam right we are... Buckle up kids, it's gonna be a bumpy ride...

Imagine being behind the scenes during brand crisis hiring situations at Uber and WeWork. Literally the basis for "We Crashed" or "Super Pumped" mini-series. This type of experience should come with a diploma. But seriously, Employment Brand veteran Andrew Levy joins the Cult Brand podcast crew and shares stories and tips on how to hire in a brand crisis. Plus, thoughts on unwinding and reengineering process and tech stacks, candidate rediscovery, and answering questions around global EVPs. Welcome to baptism in brand crisis with an episode worthy enough for We Work Jesus, enjoy!

It's a house party, ya'll! House of HR party, that is. The company just received funding from Bain Capital in return for 55% of the organization. But if that's not unicorn-y enough for you, Guild just joined the $4+ billion valuation club. What else? Elon says get back in the office, Recruit Holdings of Indeed and Glassdoor fame embrace women (in a good way, sickos!), CEO pay is out of control and Chili's introduces Rita the Robot to more locations nationwide. Pass the Old Timer with Cheese, yo!

Oh, how we’ve missed in-person events. Being at Unleash in Vegas last week, rubbing elbows and sharing smiles after nearly 3 years was such a joy. That’s why we had to get the guy who made it all happen on the show. Unleash’s Marc Coleman joins the boys for a review of the conference, its brightest highlights and unexpected surprises. Then we dive into the Paris show, coming in October, and get a sneak peek into what to expect … other than wine, cheese, snails and all that other French stuff. Enjoy, and we’ll see you in October.

The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.

Coding bootcamps are gaining in popularity. The combination of rising in remote learning, a serious talent crunch for coders, and a lack of confidence in the current educational system have been like gas on a fire. That's why Chad & Cheese brought on Liliana Monge, co-founder and CEO of Sabio Coding Bootcamp out of Los Angeles (but quickly going national). We discuss the changing demographics of remote learning, how Monge's business differentiates itself from the competition and why the hell there aren't more corporations sponsoring this kind of education! Oh yeah, and how much does this stuff cost anyway?

Vegas, baby! Talking Velocity Global, Wells Fargo, California Pay Transparency, WorkReels and the Unleash Roundup, live from the Lobby Bar! Can you tell we haven’t been let out in awhile?