The Canine Paradigm

Mike Suttle is one of the worlds canine industries legends. When it comes to working canine selection, bite development and scent work, Mike is a serious contender. Living in West Virginia, Mike has an impressive property where he conducts all forms of training. Mike’s kennel name, Logan haus has built a reputation of providing high end dogs for serious operators. These dogs are deployed around the world and are used as multi purpose law enforcers and miltary operations. Mike and his partner Megan have been travelling around their homeland conducting training on demand for various purposes. We have had the very good fortune of having Mike share his wisdom in Australia several times. We always look forward to seeing him return because there is so much to learn. There are dozens of Youtube clips of Mike suttle and his amazing work in scent, bite work and even chicken training. You can check out his website for even more educational gems. Want to learn more about Mike Suttle, click here Need to know about Glenn Cooke click here Desire to know about Pat Stuart click here http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/10/19/episode-48-interviewing-jerry-bradshaw/ Check out another Industry legend when you’re done listening to Mike

The flow state is a comfortable state that lies right between boredom and anxiety. We know when we are in a state of flow when we get to the other side with ease. Time felt like it just zoomed on past us. This is not only a dog training lifestyle, it’s a lifestyle. If you can adapt a flow state into you work, you hobby, your workout times and more, you will feel less anxious and more fulfilled. This is why people practice a little bit every day when they want to see improvement and growth. Rather than just cramming and feeling over worked, they focus on easy and enjoyable increments. Just enough to push through barriers but not enough to feel overwhelmed. Every day a little more. just focusing on the objective. Most people who have hobbies understand this state of being as they are doing something they enjoy without the stress. Hopefully you are in flow state with your training. Want to know more about Glenn? Go Here Want to know more about Pat? Go Here http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/12/06/episode-55-positive-first/ Enjoy an older episode that got plenty of traction

Nicky Butler is a UK based dog trainer that grabbed ours and many others attention from a social media video. The video message highlighted what many of us have been thinking for quite some time. The nice thing was that Nicky took time to sit for a while and consider the content. The message conveys a simple fact often overlooked. we all love dogs. All of us! However, there’s often controversy about who’s doing it right and the politics hijack the main objectives. We all need to be more thoughtful about this topic. We need to think about how much time is actually worth arguing about it compared to getting on with work. Cherry picked, pseudo science and wounded emotions should never be used as ammunition in any basis. There is a wise saying that suggests that the left wing and the right wing belong to the same bird. Flight is not possible when one is independent of the other. Interviewing Nicky Butler gave us a bit more insight into how people in other countries are feeling. It also describes the ethos of the individuals and the community. Like to know more about Nicky go here Want to know more about Pat, go here If you would like to know more about Glenn, go here http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/08/23/episode-40-dissecting-ego/ Another good episode on helping people with Ego issues

Drop your anchor is the title by our adopted show co-host Birdy O’Sheedy. For those of you joining us, Birdy is a clinical psychologist who additionally coaches people on living better with dogs. Birdy has two business’s with the same name but a clever different meaning. Pause in life for her human work and Paws in life for her human / pet work. The title drop your anchor is about teaching us to stand up tall, dig your heels in. Glenn and Pat thought it had a different meaning and in some references it does, but not the one Birdy uses. Anyone having a hard time developing a relationship with their dog would benefit immensely from speaking with Birdy. She has a very pragmatic approach to her work and is constantly looking at improving her own knowledge and understanding. Want to know more about Birdy. Go here Want to know more about Pat. Go hereh Want to know more about Glenn Go here http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/10/31/episode-50-diagnosing-problems-in-training/ Check out some of our other episode

Where are we going? It’s a good question to ask yourself every now and then to confirm you are planning your direction. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail, so it’s important to know these things. Glenn and Pat talk about what we are doing on Patreon and how it is helping to create a future. it’s a future on where we all what The Canine Paradigm to head in. More education, more entertainment, much more laughs. We get a lot of our ideas from you the audience. We listen to your own stories. The troubles you have, the enjoyment in your training, the things you love and the things you loath. So as you can see, it’s important to ask, where are we going? We also discuss our concern around people, fellows trainers not crediting their mentors. They make out that they found their knowledge buried in a field and they are the only ones who know it. Time to question that fool. If you like to do something creative with Pat Stuart, go here If you would like to book time with Glenn Cooke go here Here’s some other great shows to consider http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/10/31/episode-50-diagnosing-problems-in-training/ http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/08/23/episode-40-dissecting-ego/

Start the year with a plan. Start everything with a plan or at least try to. That way you get to do what you need to do by design, rather than just wing it. There’s a saying that says, “plan your work, then work your plan”. Glenn thought it may have been Vince Lombardi, American football super coach and philosopher, however it was Napoleon Hill. There’s even another variation stated by Margaret Thatcher, former British Prime Minister. The episode at large is about people making New Years resolutions. We’re suggesting that it should be a year round resolution by being a little bit better that yesterday. We found that by being incremental and not over doing it, learning takes on a better function overall. Start your 2019 year off by, continuing the good work you did in 2018 and not having too high expectations. So, start your year with a plan and how can you go wrong? If you want to get in touch with Glenn you can go hereIf you want to get in touch with Pat you can go here http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/12/06/episode-55-positive-first/

End of year circle jerk is a celebration of accomplishments within our show for 2108. We would like to thank everyone who listened, made time for interviews, helped, gave feedback and believed in us. We have both had a phenomenal year, making friend, reaching out, learning about others and networking. The stories and the people we have met on the journey have been surreal to say the least. We cannot thank you enough for taking us into your homes, laughing, crying, learning and celebrating with us. 2018 was a great year and we want to make 2019 even better and we would love your input into how we can make that happen. If there’s a person you think we should interview, let us know. If there’s a topic you think we should discuss, tell us about it. If there’s a fucker in the industry we need to tear apart, drop us a line. Finally, we want to send warm gooey love to our Patreon supporters. You cannot know what your support means to us and how much we appreciate your patronage. We hope you enjoy the End of year circle jerk as much as we did putting it together. Have a safe and Happy New Year everyone. We love you all http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/09/08/episode-42-questions-from-our-audience-part-1/

It’s me isn’t it? The words most trainers hear after they have spent a little time working with clients. Yes, it’s you. It’s not a terrible process for clients to come to terms with either. Once your clients accept they have had a major impact on their dogs education, or lack of, we can progress. After all, our job is not to judge or embarrass them. We are there to serve and coach and to improve the overall relationship. When this happens, true language develops and it’s a beautiful thing to behold. No more excuses, minimal problems and manageable dogs who understand you. What you telling them is now clear and they can hear you. If you’re having trouble with your training, reach out to a reputable trainer. Pat can be reached at Operant Canine Glenn can be reached at Canine Evolution Now instead of saying, I’s me isn’t it? I’m the problem. You start to say, I’m the solution. http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/06/20/episode-32-the-art-of-communication/ Another good episode in relation to this podacst

Michael Ellis is a name known very well to many of the people in the dog training community.  If you have been on youtube or Leerburg looking for a trainer series, you would no doubt come across Michael’s work. Both Glenn and Pat have been waiting for some time now to speak with Michael and we had our prayers answered Apart from being an all round great guy, Michael has been teaching students all over the world. If you too would like to train with Michael Ellis or learn more about him, you can find out more here

Positive First is a descriptive term Glenn Cooke announced earlier in one of our episodes. He feels better describes what the Balanced dog training community have been trying to represent. Naturally, there are counter arguments that it doesn’t represent the industry based on the correct scientific terms. There was additional points that it could be perceived as to closely associated with positive only. Glenn and Pat start to unpack the success of starting with positive reinforcement and then re assessing. This way if you start positive and can remain within that system of training, there is no problem. If you need to move along to adding aversive, then you can implement the LIMA system. If you have never heard of LIMA, it is the acronym for, Least Invasive Minimally Aversive. it does a very nice job of describing a better selection pathway for training when using the Operant system.

Moments to be proud of was a hard episode for both of us to record. For Pat it was difficult to relive something that caused a lot of raw emotion. For Glenn it was a high degree of shock to hear the story. This story unfolds around a young boy and his mum that Pat helped train an assistance dog. Although it sounds simple enough, it came with some heavy baggage for everyone. The story is still far from finished, however there have been some incredible breakthroughs, both via a mothers love and Pats persistence and compassion. Mental illness is a serious issue that has serious implications requiring the right people for treatment. It also carries a stigma as people don’t know how to behave or what to say. The best thing you can do though is be supportive and not judgemental. Learn more about it and how you can better help. We have done several episode now on mental health and we will definitely do more in the future for both humans and dogs. This is why having a contact like Birdy O’Sheedy is so helpful and healthy as she understand both fields. If you don’t feel great and the world is getting difficult, speak to someone. You’re not a burden. You’re not invalid. You have people that love you and people that do want to be supportive. We would love to hear what you moments to be proud of are too. We have several episode as suggested that would be worth listening to, to support the above. http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/11/24/episode-53-a-birdys-eye-view-on-anxiety/

A Birdy’s eye view on Anxiety is a welcomed episode to bring back our great friend, Birdy O’Sheedy. If you haven’t listened to an episode with Birdy yet, it’s important to note that she is a practising psychologist. Birdy works in both the human and pet dog realms and has fast attracted attention based on her genuine results. In this episode, we discuss the realms of anxiety and how it starts and what it looks like. It should be noted that we always recommend dealing with suitably trained professionals prior to working on this. We get to learn about the term, transgenerational transmissions and how that creates a transfer of anxiety. So all aboard ladies and gentleman. Get ready to drop your anchor and join us on this wonderful journey with our resident Psychologist. If you want to know more about Birdy the click here Be sure to check out some of our past episodes with birdy as well and if you need her, contact her.

Getting out of the shit, although a nasty sounding title, has something relevant to do with Pat. Whilst walking through the desert one day on patrol, he got himself in a shitty situation. However, the main focus point in this show is, how to say goodbye to a dog for behavioural reasons. This is a predicament that many of us Professional trainers have had to assess and help make the right choice. We also unpack a little bit about the difference between decision and choice. The show gets a little deep and turns a few corners, however we had an interesting chat. If you enjoy our show and you would like to help us, you can donate as much as a cup of coffee. It’s only once a month on our Patreon page and you get access to extra content. http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/become-a-patron/ We hope you enjoy the show and always appreciate listener feedback.

Meagan Karnes, otherwise known as the Collared Scholar was in Australia running a series of seminars. Glenn and Pat had the good fortune of sitting down with her to get some insight into her origin story. Prior to Meagan throwing her hat in the ring of dog training, her role was a little different. Or maybe a lot different. Meagan told us the reasons why she became so frustrated prior to starting her new career. This is why she changed her stars in the first place. She also discusses her dogs, how she came to have them and the people who inspired her. It was great to watch her work and introduce us to her style of training, which has hints of other remarkable training mentors. we also enjoyed her infectious laugh and enthusiasm into helping transform relationships between dog and owners. We also spoke briefly about puppy raising which we have spoken about here as well in the picking and raising puppies episode Meagan has her own website and on-line training programs that you can find by clicking here

Diagnosing problems in training came from points our listeners were posting in our Facebook group. Given that anyone who has owned or trained or been around dogs knows that there are always going to be problems. We figure it’s best to identify what they are and how we can reduce or completely extinguish them. In addition to that, it’s our 50th show! We are happy to celebrate with you and appreciate all the love and support from people all over the world. We have a lot more great content to come on top of what we have already so buckle in and get ready for a wild ride. More sweat, more laugh, more education and more Glenn and Pat. A couple of good episodes to listen to in relation to this episode would be, selecting and raising puppies. If you haven’t heard the box episode, that’s almost a TCP staple. In closing, Pat started a new client business called Operant Canine. If you want to book some extra time with him you can find him on Facebook.

Dealing with difficult clients and people is a show we have danced around for a while but decided to finally do it. Anyone in business or life, has moments where discussing issues with people can be difficult. We all have different ways and recommendations of managing these outcomes to attempt to better resolve the outcome. Glenn and Pat share a few of many experiences over the years of dealing with some of the more memorable people and how they worked on the outcome. Conflict resolution is a big business in this day and age with books, seminars, pod-casts and more. Add animals to that mix and you can sometimes be looking at a bigger explosion. An earlier episode we did, http://www.thecanineparadigm.com/2018/07/18/episode-36-keeping-sane-in-the-dog-industry/ helps a little for trainers and industry people when they need a time out. You can also check in with our resident psychologist, Birdie O’Sheedy for some back to sanity assistance.

Jerry Bradshaw is known around the world as the father of PSA, (Protection Sports Association). Jerry is also well known through his successful training company, Tarheel canine. The Tarheel team have been supplying and training Police and law enforcement agencies with dogs that will suit the needs for tactical street work. Along with that, Jerry has been travelling the world lecturing and teaching on canine behaviour. He has his own podcast called Controlled Aggression and also a tactical manual by the same name. If you have been a listener of the show for anytime you would know that both Glenn and Pat are involved in the sport of PSA and Pat was largely involved with successfully setting up PSA in Australia, forming a club, Iron Fist PSA with Glenn and trialling dogs. You may even recall us speaking with Shawn and Janet Edwards in an earlier episode who have worked for, decoy for and judge for Jerry.

Dog parks dystopia or utopia came about after Glenn had a small rant on social responsibilities and then Pat re-listened to the episode to correct a point on dog parks. As Pat has a local community dog park area that functions well, he felt the need to makes some valid contributions about how well good people and their dogs behave in some areas. Like everything, there are good and bad dog parks, so the important take home message is to ensure good research is conducted prior to taking your dog there and coming home with a bad experience. We unpack a few topics through this discussion and it goes around in a few different directions, however the modus operandi is always around being responsible and following a good duty of care when out in public with your dog. If you enjoy our shows and you want to help us out or be a part of our education community, we have a Patreon account that helps us improve our standard and produce more content. https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10936632  

Glenn & Pat discuss the social responsibility issue with people making poor examples of themselves and particularly their breed when out in public spaces. A lot of people want to be out in public spaces with their dog, enjoying the social environment, however there are people who are very vague about their dog and mistake excitability for aggression and problematic behaviour. As always we are advocates of training and we encourage all people who own dogs to become more educated about teaching better form of engagement so you can really enjoy your dog without being in fear of it risking public safety or an altercation with another dog. We also mention that Jay Jack’s SR test through his GRC program is a very easy, very accessible platform for all dog owners, especially the ones that need it, to give them a platform to help in providing a working outlet.

Hot seat stories from the IACP, comes directly from our time in Florida where we got to sit in a room with some of the many amazing people we know or met along the way at the conference. We got to share stories, listen to origins of other trainers, share some laughs and generally hang out with amazing people while Jay Jack was heckling in the background. As we have mentioned, one of the amazing experiences of travelling is meeting new people and making new friends from around the world as we have had the good fortune of doing and by having a conduit such as The Canine Paradigm and other industry shows, we can reach out to people all over the world to help bring our industry closer together. We would like to thank, George Kittridge, Emma Grae Murdock, Bill Church, Josh Moran, Byron Flores, Jay Jack, Chad Mackin, Alex Edwards and Jas Whiting for a great session. Get ready to get sweaty.

Glenn and Pat and a whole bunch of sweaty Aussies have returned from the IACP conference in Tampa Bay Florida with a whole bunch of stories and a podcast that was done in Glenn’s hotel room that will be following soon from the IACP wrap up. We meet with some amazing people and had an awesome time networking and sharing stories and experiences, dancing on the beach, getting intoxicated at the gala and generally having a lot of fun together. We had a lot of amazing feedback on the show from a lot of USA residents and several of the Canadian crew that were too. We cannot express our appreciation from you guys for following our show and offering such supportive feedback. it was overwhelming. We were also advised that we should be making a Patreon account, which we have done to help sponsor the show. Much love again to all those who make time to listen to our podcast.

More questions, more answers. As we didn’t have time to cover the questions asked of us in the last episode, we agreed that it was only reasonable to do another session so we could make our way through more from our listeners so enjoy Questions from our audience Part 2. This episode gets a little preachy but not without good cause. There are factions in our industry that are not cooperating with each other and it’s not due to any good reason other than ego getting in the way and preventing good relationships from occurring and productivity. As an industry we need to look at more reasons to come together, not for more reasons to separate. we are small and vulnerable when we argue and fight.

We like to acknowledge the people who listen to our show because without you it would just be two Johno’s sitting in a room entertaining each other. In this episode we answer some listener questions with TCP pearls of wisdom. Thanks to everyone who took a moment to write in and again to those who provide feedback and send words of support to let us know what you like, what made you laugh, made you cry, what’s important and much more. we want to do more of this in the future so please feel free to join us in our forums to discuss important topics OR even let us know about one you may be aware of.

We get to speak with one of Americas top dog training Vloggers and all round nice guy, Larry Krohn about his origins and his book. Larry has an amazing following and fan base of frustrated dog owners who he has shed some wisdom to in many of his on-line recordings. We also find out that Larry is also a federal agent for homeland security, so he has to train dogs around his very important full time job. An incredibly nice guy and an asset to our industry, we hope to speak more with Larry in the future.

Dissecting ego is an episode we have wanted to look at for some time now as it can be a troublesome emotion that many of us find damages opportunity, relationships and more. This week we get our resident psychologist, Birdie O’Sheedie back for her 3rd time on the show to help us look at what this little monster is and how to keep it under better control. If you find that people start to disappear from your life, perhaps it’s time to start thinking about looking within to make some small or large changes to enjoy those relationships rather than continue to drive them away.  

Another origin story of two people we know very well and love. Brent Dry and Cat Saunders are well established in the Australian canine community and are ingrained in the hearts and minds of many people both here and abroad for good reason. Both Brent & Cat have been supporting the industry in a very big way by being very inclusive in their approach to people and training styles and attending many of the training seminars and learning opportunities around Australia. If you’re in Melbourne, or even if you’re not, make some time to catch up with Brent & Cat. Further details If your looking for contact details, great dog trainers and supporters of The Canine Paradigm, look no further. Below is a vast array of people and business’s who stand by us, donate to our running costs and do great things for the canine community. Glenn runs and has almost everything canine related at, Canine Evolution or Pet Resorts Australia Pat has a full range of coaching and dog training services at Operant Canine If you wish to learn a little more about us, go here You can support our show and get extra content right here on our Patreon page. Everything goes into keeping the show running and we love all the wonderful people who are part of that community. If you’re not sure how, just ask us. You can get our full range of Merch at our Teespring store here You can also help us by spreading the word amongst the canine community or even suggesting a special guest to interview. If you need to find out how to listen to our podcast, go here We have a YOUTUBE channel that you can subscribe to now If you enjoyed the podcast, please review us on Itunes Details on joining the IACP can be found here. If you’re not in it you should be! Check out Dogs Playing for Life! A rescue process changing dogs lives across the USA For more details on how to help our friends at Peggy’s Promise, you can find all the details on how to do that on their website. They are our rescue charity of choice. Support our supporters Narelle Cooke’s raw feeding guide for dogs here. She also has her own podcast on all podcast directories called Natural Health for people and pets. Check it out. Birdy O’Sheedy can be found at Pause in life and at Paws in life Jason Firmin Einzweck Dog quip SHOW SPONSOR K9 Dynamics online store for all our listeners in USA and Canada SHOW SPONSOR Melanie Benware at Kindred K9 Solutions SHOW SPONSOR Kathy Santo at Kathy Santo Dog Training SHOW SPONSOR Jasmine Whiting is at Prime Canine Alex Edwards Refine your Canine Emma Murdoch Walk with me Ottawa Find out more about GRC dog sports here https://thecanineparadigm.com/2020/10/31/episode-151-brent-drys-lock-down-experience/

While Forrest and Josh were in town and we had a live audience, we all thought it would be a great idea to have some beers and talk about our training lives and some deep thoughts in between on our seminar panel. Discussions were intense and a little emotion came to the surface at times, however it was a great time to have a room full of passionate people sit with each other and have the comfort to reminisce on why we came to be here, why we stay and how we can help to look after others and ourselves. Thank you to everyone for participating in this event. we hope to do more of these in the future.

Forrest Micke and Josh Moran who have both been on the show before and are no strangers to many Australian folks who have been to their seminars, bought their DVD’s through Leerburg and have done online coaching are now on Australian shores ready for their first joint seminar in Dural NSW. In this episode we talk about what’s important in training while having a little fun together which we always tend to do.

Something slightly different from our usual show however, very relevant as it’s something that has an effect on all most people at one stage or another. The dog industry can be exciting and challenging however, it can also be intimidating and reckless at times as egos are often unchecked. Keeping Sane should be at the top of your priorities to maintain happiness. It’s important to not ignore the signs of feeling burnt out and then knowing what to do before serious health issues start effecting your quality of life. In any event, we always encourage people to seek out suitable health professionals at anytime, for any reason if you’re feeling overwhelmed for longer periods than normal.

As promised, we follow up with our good friend Jasmine Whiting to find out how she’s been getting on with life and her career in the dog training industry. Jas, has been getting busy getting on with life with some big goals in her future and some big ones she’s already either made headway on or is getting into them now. We’re impressed with how far she’s come in a short time.

Great to chat with our mate Forrest Micke who is not far away from returning to Australian shores for another educational super show. Forrest took a small break from the industry to catch up with other interests so we spoke about that in some detail. Forrest has been well know in the industry as a very successful artistic trainer with his own flair in engagement, particularly in heeling, of which he has released several videos through Leerburg.

We catch up with our old mate Josh Moran who can now be officially adopted into the ‘Australian sons’ mantle as he’s about to head back here for his 3rd seminar tour. Josh talks about his steps into starting his career, his time with Leerburg, his own dogs, his passion and his loves.

In this episode we get down to the topic of communication and how that can effectively enhance or breakdown by the very systems implemented between handler / trainer / dog.

Glenn & Pat and a whole bunch of awesome people got to trial our dogs in 2018 official PSA trial under judge Shawn Edwards so we talk about how it went down, all the emotions over the 2 days and what we need to work on next.

In this weeks show we had a group discussion with Brent Dry from The K9 Company in Melbourne and Shawn Edwards from the USA who were all in studio to have a discussion around how puppies should be raised for suitability into working roles for multiple applications.

It been a big 3 weeks of seminars with Chad and Jay, however Jay already headed home and Chad dropped in with Pat prior to the big flights back to the US. We got to reminisce a little about weeks gone by and just discuss thoughts about what’s been happening in the dog training industry in general.

There’s a lot going on in today’s shows. For starters, we test out a new musical intro the The Canine Paradigm that Pat has been working on himself before we cross over to PSA legends, Shawn & Janet Edwards in the USA to discuss with them how they started in their respective dog training careers and what lead them into their passion of PSA judges and decoys. Shawn is also known in the decoy world as the Deadpool decoy for his artistic portrayal of Deadpool and all the shenanigans that go with it.

While he is still in the country, we grabbed Jay Jack to further elaborate his theory on the layered stress model that he and Chad Mackin refer to. Join us for a fun session with an entertaining breakdown on how it works and what it means to owners so they can better understand why their dog may have reacted

The awesome foursome are all together to discuss life, dogs, training and cockatoos. Jay and Chad were kind enough to hang back after a full days seminar to do a show with us in front of an audience.

Tyler Muto, a wonderful man, trainer and mentor to many, joins us from Buffalo New York to tell us about his migration into the training industry which led him to having his own successful business, k9 Connection and also, current president of the IACP

Jay Jack is the other half of the successful US podcast, Dog Training Conversations and we get to talk to him ahead of his arrival into Australia about his life, growing up around dogs

Narelle Cooke joins us again to discuss a ew things we learned from the Cancer series video and to discuss the differences between allergies and intolerances in our canines

Greyhounds are amazing dogs and some great people are doing a magnificent job finding homes for greyhounds that can’t race or retire from racing. In this episode we discuss how Pats sister adopted one…..and she owns a cat. Good guy Pat to the rescue.

In another first on the Canine paradigm, we interview our first international guest, Chad Mackin, who will soon be joining us on Australian soil to run his seminar with training Colleague Jay Jack, who also run their own podcast, Dog training conversations.

Glenn and Pat catch up after many weeks apart to fill in the gaps of what’s been happening and also to answer some questions sent in by fans of the show

Another great interview with world renowned international specialist judge, trainer and canine movement expert, Gerard O’Shea

In this episode, Glenn and Pat get to sit with world renowned legendary trainer, Bart Bellon to discuss life and training.

In this episode we discuss how both trainers and owners can create failure in training by not looking at better or more options

Glenn and Pat have a talk about the basics of scent detection and how disciplined you need to be to allow the dog to learn what it’s really looking for

Glenn and Pat talk about some of the tools that trainers use (or don’t) how they work, when and why you may use them