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Elevator Talk, BevNET's bi-monthly video series that highlights early-stage and disruptive food and beverage brands, is now part of Taste Radio! Beginning today, you can listen to the audio from every new episode via the Taste Radio feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and all of your favorite listening platforms. This edition of Elevator Talk features leaders from Big Mama's Backyard Garden, Cob, Tierra Negra, La Gringuita, and Muria Foods. Our special co-host is Amrit Richmond, the founder of Indie CPG and Supermercato, who shared her thoughts, questions and feedback with the participants.

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We're not exactly at odds, but there's definitely some healthy debate among the hosts around how to assess Expo West 2025. And it turns out, we're not alone. The biggest question on everyone's mind: how do we truly evaluate innovation, and what does it mean for the future of the food and beverage industry in the near term? Show notes: 0:25: Burner Apartment. ET x TR. Nom, Nom. Incremental Optimism. Snax & Bevs. Horny Goat Hummus. – Ray is in secret agent mode and shares a big announcement about Elevator Talk. Jacqui and Mike spill the goods on Nombase. John talks about why some folks misread innovation exhibited at Expo West, but Ray, of course, still has questions. Jacqui highlights the possibility of a market correction, while Mike hails business fundamentals before getting excited about fruit bites and protein powders. John gets giddy about hummus and Jacqui shares a tingly product that makes some of the hosts blush. Brands in this episode: Blue Hour, Cob, PWR-UP, Palmas, PKN, Jubilees, swinger, ISH, Pistakio, Joon, HYQ, Pulpito, Crushed Tonic, Honey Mama's, Onyx Coffee, Drywater, Ithaca Hummus, Graza, Cedar's, Cookie Chachi, Charmlee, Sturdy Sauce

Dr. Pat Heist may not be the first rock musician to successfully launch and sell a spirit brand (shoutout to Sammy Hagar), but he could very well be the first to do so with a Ph.D. in plant pathology. Known as "Dr. Pat" to many, he is the co-founder of Wilderness Trail, a craft whiskey distillery based in Danville, Kentucky, renowned for blending modern scientific innovation with traditional distilling techniques. In 2012, alongside his long-time business partner Shane Baker, Dr. Pat launched Wilderness Trail, combining their extensive expertise in advising other spirit companies on production and fermentation. Their first product debuted in 2018, and since then, the brand has built a reputation for its exceptional bourbon and rye whiskey. In a major milestone for the distillery, Italian spirits giant Campari acquired a 70% stake in Wilderness Trail in October 2022, valuing the deal at $420 million, with an option to purchase the remaining 30% in 2031. At that time, the full ownership of the brand was estimated at an impressive $600 million. In this engaging interview, Dr. Pat offers a deep reflection on his entrepreneurial journey and shares invaluable advice for any aspiring founder, including the pitfall of prioritizing branding over developing a high-quality product and how to strategically enhance a brand's image among key gatekeepers and influencers. Additionally, he discusses the partnership with Campari, offering a behind-the-scenes look at how the collaboration began, and his assessment of the timing and opportunity that led to the investment and eventual acquisition. Show notes: 0:32: Interview: Dr. Pat Heist, Co-Founder, Wilderness Trail – Speaking from his office in Washington, D.C., Dr. Pat shares his passion for rock music and his current band before discussing the growth of Ferm Solutions, the yeast and enzyme supplier he co-founded with Shane in 2006. Drawing from insights gained by working with over a thousand distilleries, he explains how these experiences helped shape Wilderness Trail, ensuring the distillery's efficiency and avoiding common pitfalls. Dr. Pat highlights the unique sweet mash process and the industry relationships that set the brand apart, noting how the ability to make quick, decisive moves without bureaucratic delays was a key advantage. He also reflects on the partnership with Campari, emphasizing that it was driven by more than just financial gain, but by shared values and a long-term vision. Brands in this episode: Wilderness Trail, Rabbit Hole Distillery, Campari

Expo West 2025… OK, it wasn't a classic. It would be hard to characterize anything we saw as "groundbreaking." Perhaps, however, incremental improvements, global flavors and innovative collaborations are enough to keep the train rolling. For now, anyway. We also sit down with Carolyn Hamlet, the visionary founder and CEO of OKU, a trailblazing brand of energy gummies. Show notes: 0:25: Nuts & Dates. Noodles & Naan. Collabs & Donuts. Indonesian Sodas & Korean Seaweed. – Yes, Ray attended Expo, where he and the team discussed the growing trend of innovative, better-for-you nut brands and date-based snacks. They also explored exciting new collaborations between emerging food companies. Among the highlights was a U.K.-based ramen brand making its debut in the U.S., along with a rise in ethnically inspired foods and beverages tailored to today's modern consumer. The conversation also touched on the increasing popularity of convenient, functional desserts that blend indulgence with purpose. 26:10: Interview: Carolyn Hamlet, Founder & CEO, OKU – Carolyn discusses her transition from Wall Street to founding OKU, an energy gummy snack made with green tea, yerba mate and coconut water. As part of our conversation, she talks about how the brand is positioned as an alternative to highly caffeinated products. Brands in this episode: Oku, Chuza, Bad Tea Co., Belgian Boys, Biena, Ithaca Hummus, Graza, Urban Noodle, Date Better, Datefix, Niramaya, Firehook, Truff, Fabalish, Mr. Bing, Hostess, Pretzelized, True Dates, Cien Chiles, Evie's, Wild Fox, Kevin's Natural Foods, Nommii, Emperor's Hot Sauce, Drumroll, Good Journey, Palmas, PWR-UP, Geem, Caulipower, Sauz, Wildwonder, Beny Yogurt

Twenty-five years ago, Mac Villarreal was navigating the high seas at the Olympic Games in Sydney. If all goes as planned, he'll soon be charting a new course, sailing into the sunset as a highly successful entrepreneur. Mac is the founder and CEO of I Eat My Greens, a refrigerated brand of chef-crafted, plant-based soups made from fresh, locally sourced ingredients. Launched in 2020, I Eat My Greens is known for its sophisticated yet approachable recipes, including Carrot Sweet Potato and Turmeric and Zucchini Cilantro & Cauliflower. The products are packaged in 20 oz. clear pouches with a screwcap closure and distributed nationally, including at Sprouts and Wegmans. In the following interview, Mac takes us through his fascinating entrepreneurial journey, from his days as an Olympic sailor and transitioning into the fresh juice industry before ultimately founding his soup business. He discusses his brand's innovative packaging, how he overcame initial retailer pushback, creating products that align with modern food trends and his patient, yet ambitious growth strategy. Show notes: 0:25: Mac Villarreal, Founder & CEO, I Eat My Greens - Mac and Ray kick off the conversation by diving into the entrepreneur's victory in Naturally San Diego's Pitch Slam in 2021. Mac reflects on his journey, transitioning from the high-energy world of competitive sailing to his first entrepreneurial endeavor — Frutos de Vida, a fresh juice company he successfully grew and exited. He then shares insights into the planning behind I Eat My Greens, detailing how he carefully crafted the brand identity. From selecting the perfect product flavors and ingredients to designing the packaging, Mac emphasizes how every element of the product was tailored to align with his vision. The innovative pouch, he explains, offers a perfect balance of convenience and freshness, making it easy for consumers to enjoy healthy greens on the go. Mac also highlights how I Eat My Greens taps into the rising demand for plant-based options, aligning seamlessly with popular dietary trends like Whole30 and keto. Brands in this episode: I Eat My Greens

Aura Bora is acquired. Hiyo adds $19 million and a strategic partner. And Celsius drops $1.8 billion on Alani Nu. Oh, and Spindrift is back in the soda biz. Yeah, it's been a busy week, and the hosts have lots to say. We also sit down with Alex Duong, the founder & CEO of Fair & Square and Lena Zhuravsky, the founder of passionfruit centric-beverage brand Passion Joy. Show notes: 0:25: Party Gras. Skeptics & Price Points. Hiyo, Mike! Energy Cannibals. Full Circle. More Pizza? Who Eats Protein Pasta? – Jacqui is prepping for a big event, and it's not Expo West. Everyone has a take on Aura Bora's exit, including the Linkedin crowd. What makes Hiyo's positioning so attractive to consumers.. and investors? So, should we expect folks to have a can of Celsius in one hand and Alani Nu in the other? Perfect – another pizza drink. We love a couple of U.K.-based beverage brands, and a ginseng-centric one from here in the good ol' U.S.A. We finish with fish and pasta (just don't overcook it). 36:35: Interview: Alex Duong, Founder & CEO, Fair & Square – Alex is the founder and CEO of Fair and Square, an emerging brand of gut-friendly crackers inspired by childhood favorites. At a recent networking event hosted by industry organization Naturally San Diego, Alex discussed how his experience in the CPG industry has shaped his approach to brand-building. He also talks about the importance of patience and staying true to core values as an early-stage entrepreneur. 46:17: Interview: Lena Zhuravsky, Founder, Passion Joy – Lena is the founder of Passion Joy, a new brand of sparkling beverages with passion fruit at its core. As part of our conversation, Lena shares her vision for expanding distribution of Passion Joy in the U.S. and internationally, with plans to target major retailers and eventually compete on a global scale. Brands in this episode: Aura Bora, Hiyo, Alani Nu, Celsius, Spindrift, Bubluv, Trip, Kejoy, Perfy, Something & Nothing, Quinn Snacks, Ginsa, Cowbell Hydration, OHY, Brami, Banza, Wild Planet, Fishwife, Heyday Canning, Scout Fish, Hungry Boy Hot Sauce

Sammy Hagar's passion for tequila runs deep, but his commitment to earning and preserving the trust of his fans runs even deeper. Santo Spirits is where those two worlds meet. The iconic rock star, best known for his time as the frontman of Van Halen, made his mark on stage. But it's in the world of consumer packaged goods where he truly built his fortune. Sammy is the mastermind behind Cabo Wabo Tequila, a trailblazer in the celebrity spirit revolution that's now a staple in the beverage alcohol industry. In 2008, drinks conglomerate Campari Group made a historic move, acquiring Cabo Wabo for a groundbreaking $100 million — an unprecedented deal at the time. Nine years later, Sammy made a triumphant return to the spirits world with Santo, a tequila-focused brand he co-founded alongside fellow musician Adam Levine of Maroon 5. Building on the success of Santo, the brand grew even stronger in 2019 when celebrity chef Guy Fieri came on board as a co-founder, bringing his flair and influence to the brand. In this candid conversation, Sammy opens up about his vision for Santo, emphasizing the brand's dedication to purity and excellence. He shares his insights into the challenges of the celebrity tequila market, why, despite his success with Cabo Wabo, he remains cautious about creating a mass-market brand, and the importance of authentic relationships within the spirits industry. Sammy also discusses his approach to building teams and why, for him, hiring the right people is about finding fresh perspectives, not yes-men. Show notes: 0:25: Sammy Hagar, Co-Founder, Santo Spirits – Sammy shares his mixed feelings about living in California and draws comparisons between the challenges of the music industry and the complexities of the beverage alcohol sector. He also reveals the origins of Cabo Wabo Tequila and reflects on the simpler days of brand-building, when creating a lasting brand felt more intuitive. He discusses the explosive rise of celebrity-backed tequila brands and their impact on the market, providing insight into the creation of Santo and the groundbreaking launch of its "mezquila"—a fusion of mezcal and tequila. Sammy opens up about his early collaboration with Adam Levine, shedding light on their shared vision and why Guy Fieri stands out as someone who outworks everyone in the business. He also emphasizes the importance of entrepreneurs who challenge the status quo, offering his thoughts on how younger generations are reshaping their relationship with alcohol. He also shares his long-term vision for Santo, and how he is positioning the brand for enduring success in an ever-evolving industry. Brands in this episode: Santo Spirits, Cabo Wabo Tequila, Casamigos, Ocho Tequila

How many brands can you name that secured national distribution at Whole Foods just weeks after launching? In this episode, we dive into one such success story: Yaza, a rapidly emerging brand of Lebanese-style labneh. We also test yet another "pizza wine" and chat about Hailee Steinfeld's angelic take on RTD cocktails. Show notes: 0:25: Call It A Tease. See Y'all Soon. Oh, Yes We Did. Marvelous Miami. We've Had Our Fill. First Look. – Melissa Traverse is buckled in for banter and has a surprise in store for BevNET's community. We're all headed to Anaheim in a couple weeks – reach out beforehand. Domino's collaboration with Yellowtail wine garners mixed reviews. We recap Taste Radio's Miami meetup and spread love to those who attended. Ray casts doubt at the viability of another celebrity-backed beverage alcohol brand, Melissa speaks about digestives and Swedish treats, Jacqui has "blue tea" and John unloads a box filled with early-stage brands. 35:51: Interview: Christian Karim Khalil, Founder & CEO, Yaza - Yaza specializes in Lebanese-style labneh, a creamy, dairy-based spread that has long been a staple in Middle Eastern cuisine. Launched in 2024, Yaza sets itself apart by emphasizing authenticity and health benefits, including high protein and probiotics. In this conversation, Christian shares how Yaza overcame early production challenges, why Whole Foods recognized the brand's potential, and how he is strategically evaluating potential collaborations to fuel further growth and expansion. Brands in this episode: Yaza, Yellowtail, Bang Energy, Milonga, Sky Barn, Fruga, Gorgie, Shōjō's Dojo, Little Saints, Lemonicious, Seasa, Scobucha, Verse, MAA+TE, La Gringuita Cookies, Leisure Hydration, OWYN, Brooklyn's Best, Hummii Snacks, Mela, Big Mama's Foods, Frutero Ice Cream, Coconut Cartel, Casalu, Angel Margarita, Wilderton Apertivio, Chikka Chikka, Kolsvart, Wilderton, Kamana, Blue Durango, Cuddle, Nooish, Grounded, Chubbies, Cedar's, Little Sesame, Fly By Jing

In a candid and insightful conversation, Equitea founder and CEO Quentin Vennie and Greg Lowe II, the founder and CEO of coconut water brand 100 Coconuts, dive into the complexities of embracing their Black identity while navigating the business world. As part of the conversation, they discuss the dual reality of finding support and facing systemic barriers, alongside the evolving landscape of DEI initiatives. They also explore the ongoing challenges Black founders face in accessing capital and the opportunities international markets offer Black-owned brands. Greg also shares the story of securing a major partnership with Disney, highlighting how creativity, culture, and agility set his brand apart from industry giants. He and Quentin also unpack misconceptions about DEI, the long road ahead for equal opportunities, and how their respective journeys are paving the way for other Black founders in CPG. Listen to our first episode of Black Founders Club. Brands in this episode: Equitea, 100 Coconuts, Better Sour

It's the ultimate question every CPG founder must tackle: How do I make consumers truly care about my brand? The challenge grows even more complex when your brand is built around an ingredient that's often misunderstood and overlooked. Emily Griffith, founder and CEO of Lil Bucks, a modern snack brand that champions buckwheat as its hero ingredient, knows firsthand the trials and tribulations of creating products that not only require consumer education but also demand a passionate, loyal following. In this episode, Emily shares her journey starting from selling Lil Bucks at farmers markets to becoming a sought-after brand in retail stores. She discusses the importance of clear messaging (think "gut-friendly granola bites") to connect with consumers and how simplicity, rather than over-innovation, led to success. Emily also talks about sourcing strategies, collaborating with farmers, and the journey to securing key partnerships, including Whole Foods, fundraising for the company's Series A round and staying grounded as a founder. Show notes: 0:25: Emily Griffith, Founder & CEO, Lil Bucks – Emily and Ray recalled their first conversation at Expo East 2021, before she reflected on the challenges and excitement of breaking into retail in 2021. She talks about the temptation for founders to over-innovate, the difficulty of top-of-funnel marketing, especially when trying to connect with a broad audience and how to collaborate with others while still building her own brand. Emily also explains why hiring an operations leader was a key decision in scaling Lil Bucks and the risks of relying too heavily on one ingredient. She also talks about why getting into Whole Foods was a full court press and why convenience is a key factor in the brand's innovation strategy. Emily also emphasizes the importance of knowing your brand and processes inside and out when fundraising and why she wasn't just selling her brand and vision, she was selling herself as a founder. Brands in this episode: Lil Bucks, Bob's Red Mill, Magic Spoon, Think Jerky

As you may have heard, some people are upset with Poppi. While the soda brand's Super Bowl ad caused a bit of consternation, we have a different take on it… and that of Liquid Death's controversial TV spot. This episode also features an interview with Luke Montgomery-Smith, the co-founder of Plink, a brand of flavored, electrolyte-infused tablets designed to create effervescent and hydrating beverages. Show notes: 0:25: Chasin' Breakfast. No Love. Boozin' Water? A Wunder-ful Option. Hack Vs. Tip. Sub On A Plane. – Ray is one region away from reaching all four corners of the U.S. in a month's time, and it seems that no one loves February 14. Liquid Death is still pushing people's buttons (how many calls did Fox get after that ad?), and "big influencer vibes" aren't for everyone. Where was Big Soda last Sunday? And, did we miss the signs about Diet Coke? Ray shares a couple egg-celent tips, but realizes he might be a hack host. We also hear about a couple egregious things that happened on Ray and Mike's flight to Miami. 20:05: Interview: Luke Montgomery-Smith, Co-Founder, Plink - Launched in 2022, Plink is a past winner of BevNET's New Beverage Showdown. The brand is sold at GNC stores nationally along with dozens of independent retailers, as well as online via its website and Amazon. In this interview, Luke talks about the evolution of Plink's messaging from one focused on sustainability to that of product attributes, why he describes magnesium as a "game-changer" for the brand and how the company considers merchandising as part of its retail strategy. Brands in this episode: Plink, Liquid Death, Poppi, Red Bull, Glenmorangie, Neau Water, Remedy Organics Tropical Greens Protein, Crafty Counter

Like the effervescent bubbles in her sparkling wine, Emily Heintz believes that true quality always rises to the top. Emily is the visionary behind Sèchey, a dynamic platform that includes a luxury dealcoholized wine brand, a dry bottle shop in South Carolina, and a thriving DTC business offering a wide range of alcohol analogs. Sèchey also curated Target's non-alcoholic adult beverage set, bringing elevated options to the mass retailer's shelves. Sèchey's strategic direction and impressive momentum caught the attention of InvestBev, a private equity firm specializing in adult beverages. In August, InvestBev made an undisclosed investment in the company, with founder Brian Rosen praising Sèchey for having "gotten farther with less than anyone else we've seen." In this episode, Emily joins us for a dive deep into her vision for Sèchey and the journey of building the brand. Framed around a series of true or false questions, Emily discusses the key factors driving the growth of the non-alcoholic beverage category, how Gen Z and Millennial lifestyles are shaping awareness and trial, and why she believes the founder's voice is the most essential tool in connecting with customers. Show notes: 0:25: Emily Heintz, Founder & CEO, Sèchey – Emily and Ray sample some of Sèchey's sparkling wine, before she discusses her inspiration to start the company, whether her lack of experience in beverages impacted the company early on and why NA wine has the biggest upside among alcohol analogs. She also talks about what's driving traffic in Sèchey's retail store, whether category growth is directly tied to negative health effects of alcohol, and the gap between millennials and Gen Z consumers' perception of wine. Emily also highlights Sèchey's partnership with Target, her perspective that the future of NA beverages isn't in liquor stores, why she's only somewhat concerned about lower quality options in the space, and why she believes that the first adult beverage for younger generations should be a non-alcoholic one. Brands in this episode: Sèchey, Athletic Brewing, Ghia, Kin Euphoric, Tost, Blind Tiger, Ritual Zero

Someone has to say it: Expo West isn't for everyone. One host makes a case on why some folks should skip the Super Bowl of CPG… while three others try to prove them wrong. We also sit down with Trevor Burns of Leisure Hydration, an emerging brand of electrolyte drinks making waves in Southern California. Show notes: 0:25: A Better Name. Han Jones & His Scotch. Press Pass Rescinded. Killer Soda. Spicy Pod & Sauces. – The hosts recall a past edition of BevNET's New Beverage Showdown, before Ray questions an alignment between a legacy Scotch brand and a popular, if aging, movie star. Then the sh_t hits the fan. The hosts engage in a debate about the value of some early-stage founders attending and/or exhibiting Expo West, until everyone agrees on one thing. John and Mike crack open cans of Liquid Death's new soda-flavored sparkling waters, Ray highlights a "sacred" drink brand, Jacqui gets spicy and everything starts to feel saucy. 29:13: Interview: Trevor Burns, Head of Sales, Leisure Hydration – Launched in 2022, Leisure Hydration markets "electrolyte refreshers" that are infused with vitamins, minerals and adaptogens. Packaged in 16 oz. cans, and available in three flavors, the drinks are distributed throughout California, including at Bristol Farms, Gelsons and Erewhon stores, and also has a presence in several other parts of the U.S., including Texas and the Pacific Northwest. At a recent event hosted by Naturally San Diego, Trevor talked about Leisure Hydration's methodical retail strategy, the impact of an adjustment to its brand name and how the company landed a big time partnership at seven major airports. Brands in this episode: Leisure Hydration, Glenmorangie, Glonuts, Maazah, Grounded, Liquid Death, Mate Party, Sacred Bev, PODI Life, Tierra Negra, Cleveland Kitchen, Tari

Nona Lim describes the sale of her eponymous brand as "accidental." The way in which she positioned the company for success and an eventual exit, however, was anything but. Founded in 2014, Nona Lim Foods made a name for itself as a brand of better-for-you, easy-to-prepare Asian meals, including fresh noodles, broths and stir fry kits. Nona, who first joined us for an interview back in 2020, has long stressed the importance of product-market fit and a deep understanding of business fundamentals – two pillars that played a pivotal role in building a sustainable brand. Her focus and vision helped Nona Lim Foods achieve national distribution, securing shelf space in major retailers like Whole Foods, Target, Wegmans, and Kroger. In 2022, a serendipitous meeting led to the acquisition of Nona Lim Foods by DayDayCook, a food and content brand platform based in Hong Kong. The partnership was seen as a perfect fit, with DayDayCook's CEO highlighting their shared vision to bring delicious Asian dishes to the U.S., reimagined with clean ingredients for a modern, health-conscious audience. Nona continued to lead the brand as CEO until June of 2024. While the future of Nona Lim Foods is uncertain – its website is currently down and its social media has been inactive since July – Nona remains deeply engaged in the food and beverage industry as the chair of the board for the Specialty Food Association (SFA), which organizes the biannual Fancy Food Show. In this insightful conversation, Nona shares why founders should think intentionally about their "end goal," the importance of generating retail velocity without heavy marketing spend, and why having a well-organized data room is essential for raising funds or preparing for an exit. She also opens up about the emotional impact of selling a business that she built from the ground up. Show notes: 0:25: Nona Lim, Founder, Nona Lim Foods – On location in Las Vegas at the final edition of the Winter Fancy Food Show, Nona talks about the SFA's decision to rebrand and relocate the event and which booth expectedly drew crowds. Ray recalls her first appearance on Taste Radio in which she emphasized the power of saying "no" to prioritize the right opportunities, why she encourages founders to consider why they are building their businesses and why great packaging only works under certain conditions. Nona also discusses how she met and developed a good rapport with the CEO of her brand's eventual acquirer, the shifting dynamics of fundraising post-COVID and why she references Amy's Kitchen when giving advice to early-stage entrepreneurs. Brands in this episode: Nona Lim Foods, gimme Seaweed, Sun Noodle, Amy's Kitchen

These days, keeping it simple is one way to be different. At a time when brands are packing their products with processed ingredients and novel sweeteners, some companies are taking a stripped down approach… and getting noticed. This episode, which features an interview with Stephanie McGregor, a veteran food and beverage executive and founder of plant-based drink brand Ringa, explores that dynamic. Show notes: 0:25: Mussel-ed Out. RSVP & See You In S.B. Real Corn Flakes. Live Slice. Miso & Pita. Kartik FTW. – Ray shares some important advice about dining out based on recent experience. Our Miami meetup is 10 days away – we'd appreciate it if you register for the event. The ECB folks snack on some premium simple cereal and talk about how consumers may perceive it versus competing products. They also chat about a couple soda brand revamps – including that of a classic brand now marketed as "healthy" – snack on extra crispy pita chips, and highlight a miso-infused tomato sauce and a brand called "DryWater," before Mike unpacks a box of goodies sent to him from Doosra founder (and CPG king ) Kartik Das. 27:28: Stephanie McGregor, Founder & CEO, Ringa – Launched in 2023, Ringa is a brand of plant-based functional beverages made with all organic ingredients, including moringa, apple cider vinegar and prebiotic fiber from agave inulin. A veteran food and beverage brand executive who has worked with vitaminwater, Pop Chips and Smashmallow, Stephanie talks about her inspiration to launch a beverage brand, how she is attempting to align education about functional ingredients to a common habit, why she's not chasing demand for gut-friendly sodas, and what she's learned from taking a slow and sustainable approach to retail growth. Brands in this episode: Ringa, The Real Cereal Co., Ringa, Chef's Life, Live Soda, Better Booch, Slice, Suja, Sauz, Terranean, Bitchin Sauce, DryWater, Sacred Bev, See The Elephant Amaro, Sip Herbals, Rishi Snacks, Doosra, Baabu, Chikka Chikka, Fishwife, Huwa, Kimbala, Vitaminwater, Pop Chips, Krave Jerky, Bark Thins, Smashmallow, Kuli Kuli

H&H Bagels is a New York City institution. Jay Rushin wants to make it an American staple. Founded in 1972, H&H had long been admired as the place to get a quintessential New York City bagel. For decades, locals and tourists would line up at H&H's storefronts to get their hands on the fresh, chewy bagels immortalized on popular television shows "Seinfeld" and "Sex and The City." But in 2012, after 40 years in business, H&H was on the brink of vanishing. Its original owners, accused of mismanagement and violating labor laws, had filed for bankruptcy in 2011. Three years later, Jay, a former Wall Street executive, acquired H&H's name and assets, including the last remaining location on the upper east side of Manhattan. Jay's vision was to restore H&H to its former prominence by opening new locations in New York City and introducing a franchise model that would bring the brand to cities across the U.S. H&H now operates a thriving online business as well as seven stores in New York and one in Boca Raton, Florida. The company also has nearly two dozen new locations in planning. In the following interview, Jay talks about how a thoughtful strategy helped H&H regain its relevance, how he navigated some of the most challenging aspects of its turnaround and how the company is attempting to align its storied history with modern culture and trends. Show notes: 0:25: Jay Rushin, CEO, H&H Bagels – Taste Radio editor Ray Latif chats with Jay about the shared history between BevNET and H&H, before the CEO talks about how often he visits the company's production facility and why lunch has become a key growth driver for the business. He also discusses his interest in buying H&H, why he was suited to lead its turnaround and how he had to replace nearly every piece of manufacturing equipment in his first two years of ownership. Jay also explains why mistakes can be positive learning experiences, why the company focuses on ingredients more than trends and why he views franchising as the biggest opportunity for H&H. He also talks about why "flexibility" was key to designing the brand's refreshed logo, when he felt comfortable with H&H's ability to expand beyond its traditional borders and how the company tests LTOs and partnerships. Brands in this episode: H&H Bagels

Before the sun set on a final Winter Fancy Food Show, the event cast a light on a swath of emerging, innovative and better-for-you brands. The hosts highlight a few of their favorite products exhibited at the show, and how package design, ingredients, form factor and taste helped them to stand out. Show notes: 0:25: A First! Shifting Cities. Miami Meetup. The Worst Cup. So Many Fancy Brands. What's Trending? – Ray and John are in WCB, which means Mike is all alone in Newton. Everyone is excited about a perennial trade show's return to its roots. Miami is the team's next stop – and everyone is invited to stop by. Ray pulls an anti-'Elf' before he and John dish on some of the most notable brands they encountered at the 2025 Winter Fancy Food Show, including canned lattes, NA cocktails, poppadom-inspired snacks, lentil-based dips, boiled peanuts, single-serve ethnic meals and fruit leather. The hosts also highlight BevNET/NOSH's 2025 Trend Forecast and wonder why Ray can't say "insider." Brands in this episode: Laurel's, Hail M Cocktails, Mate Party, JAS, Lazy Food, Edenesque, Ayoh Foods, Proppadoms, HipPop, Maazah, The Cumin Club, Tierra Negra, Peepal People, Dixie Grace's Boiled Peanuts, Milk-Ish, Pulpito, Jas, Sayso, Nufs, Glonuts, Breakin Snacks, Feisty, Protein 2.0, Gatorade, Hebrew National, Bitchin' Sauce, Plink, Element, Cure Hydration

When Amanda Thomson launched Noughty Wines, a pioneering brand of dealcoholized wines, in 2019, she was, in essence, flying blind. There was no non–alcoholic wine category to speak of, little in the way of market research and certainly no blueprint on how to build the type of company that she envisioned. But Amanda, a former BBC journalist and broadcaster, did have a gut feeling. There were, she believed, millions of people like her who sought high-quality wines made without alcohol. It turns out that she was right. Six years after Noughty's debut, non-alcoholic wine has emerged as a mainstream concept, and is commonly seen in drink menus at restaurants and bars as well as in grocery and liquor stores across the U.S. In the following interview, Amanda talks about how she charted an unknown path for non-alcoholic wines, why creating "absolute trust" in the purity of Noughty wine is key to the brand's resonance with consumers, and why she advises early-stage founders to think about what they want to achieve when crafting their business plans and strategies. Show notes: 0:32: Interview: Amanda Thomson, Founder & CEO, Noughty Wines – Amanda explains why she never wanted to create a "replica" of traditional wine and talks about how her education and experience in fine wine is pertinent to the development of Noughty. She also talks about why relied on her vision and didn't research at the historical market for non-alcoholic wine when launching Naughty, why "liquid trumps everything," how she aligns brand obsession with iterative improvements and why she urges non-alcoholic beverage entrepreneurs to use high-quality ingredients and avoid additives as a way to enhance consumers' perception of alcohol analogs. Amanda also talks about the impact of media acclaim and why she thinks about her legacy as she builds the brand. Brands in this episode: Noughty Wines, San Pellegrino, Recess, Trip, BodyArmor, RxBar

What lessons can we extract from the acquisition of Simple Mills and majority sale of Spindrift, valued at nearly $1.5 billion combined? The hosts talk about what these better-for-you brands did right and what made them attractive to strategic companies and investors. We also sit down with Marcin Malyszko and Amit Singh, the co-founders of Mission Cocktails, a purpose-driven brand of premium ready-to-serve bottled cocktails. Show notes: 0:25: Las Diego. Big(ish) Food Was Listening. Neighbor's Big Pay Day. Hopped Up. Imposters, Deer & Bears. – John and Ray are heading west. Are you as well? Let them know. Nearly a year after Ray's rant, Simple Mills got its flowers. So did Spindrift, but we still don't have a vending machine. We're happy that hop-infused water is finally getting its due (at least from the New York Times), but less pleased with an oddly-named brand of non-alcoholic spirits. John highlights an animal-themed water, and Mike does the same, but for a ginger beer, before Jacqui praises purple snacks. 27:27: Interview: Marcin Malyszko & Amit Singh, Co-Founders, Mission Cocktails – A brand of premium ready-to-serve cocktails that donates 5% of gross revenue to local food banks, Mission Cocktails launched in 2023 and markets several products, including a Manhattan, a Margarita and a Mai Tai, all packaged in 375 mL glass bottles. The brand is sold in over 500 retail stores, including Gelson's, BevMo, Pavilions and Whole Foods. Marcin and Amit discuss the origins of Mission Cocktails and how their focus on "liquid to lips" and persistent effort to connect with retail executives has helped the brand make significant strides over the past 12 months. Brands in this episode: Mission Cocktails, Simple Mills, Nature's Own, Dave's Killer Bread, Wonder, Canyon Bakehouse, Tastykake, Samuel Adams, Peet's Coffee, Stirrings, Partake Brewing, Athletic Brewing Co., Lacroix, HopLark, Hop Wtr, Imposter Beverages, Father's Deer, Liquid Death, Bear & Beaver, Purplesful Snacks

One of PJ Monte's early sales pitches startled a woman so much that she clutched her purse. A few weeks later, PJ's tomato sauce was on the shelves of her husband's influential grocery store. It's one of dozens of stories that PJ, a streetwise, fedora-wearing entrepreneur, has about the development of Monte's Fine Foods, makers of premium, clean label pasta and sauces. Monte's launched in 2020 and is an homage to PJ's family, which has a long history in the restaurant and hospitality industries. A former clothing designer, PJ shifted his focus to food five years ago and began selling jars of homemade sauce out of the trunk of his car. Today, the brand markets a trio of tomato sauces that are produced in small batches and made with carefully sourced ingredients. Monte's also sells bagged buchi and rolotini dry pasta. The brand is carried in over 1,000 retail stores across the U.S., including Target, ShopRite, Fairway and Erewhon, and is planning to expand its presence in several other chains later this year. In the following interview, PJ talks about how his family's background motivated him to get into the food business, why he credits "human being relationships" for some early wins and the continued growth of Monte's, how he reduced ingredient costs by 25% without sacrificing quality and how he landed the brand at Target. Show notes: 0:32: Interview: PJ Monte, Founder & CEO, Monte's Fine Foods – PJ chronicles his family's history in restaurants and hotels before recalling a few notable stories about the early days of Monte's and uncommon methods of distribution. He also talks about how "human connections" between his team and retail buyers are the key to retail relationships and helps differentiate Monte's from other companies and how a chance meeting helped him secure a major deal for the brand. PJ also discusses his insistence on using premium ingredients and working with a co-manufacturer that could match his standards, how a deep dive into the company's supply chain helped it secure placement at Target and why he believes that quality doesn't need to be synonymous with being "the little guy." Brands in this episode: Monte's Fine Foods, Rao's

Is booze so bad that it should come with a warning label? The U.S. Surgeon General thinks so and has advised Congress to act. What, if any, impact would potential legislation have? The hosts discuss. This episode also features an interview with Julie Cielo, the founder of pioneering non-alcoholic cocktail brand Ferm Fatale, who talks about the successes, missteps and eventual closure of her company. Show notes: 0:25: Marina Mike. Damp Jacqui. Vegas Craven. Aisle Ray. VIPers. Dunkin' Pits. Bad Booze. Bull Blood. – Ray thought John was doing Dry January, but it's another Craven (and Jacqui, sort of) that's off the sauce. Did we see Mike surf in MDR? You may see John and Ray in Las Vegas and San Diego in a few days. Just as Ray will never sit in a middle seat, Patagonia Provisions never misses. Which of us had dreams of launching a better-for-you soda brand in college? The answer is in our newsletter. Does the world need a Boston cream donut-scented conditioner or orange soda shampoo? Target and Walmart buyers say YES. Are government officials unfairly demonizing alcoholic beverages? What about sugar? Good questions, and we have answe… well, opinions. John mixes up a fresh batch of bull blood-infused beverages before Jacqui gives a 'fiend a chance and Mike sweats from eating spicy cookies. 32:59: Interview: Julie Cielo, Founder, Ferm Fatale – Launched in 2015, Ferm Fatale was conceived as an "alternative social beverage" designed for health-conscious consumers and marketed as a mixer or a drink that could be served on its own. In the years that followed, the brand's positioning and packaging evolved to align with growing interest in sober living and rising demand for alcohol analogs. While Ferm Fatale built a significant online business and was carried by natural retailers in Southern California, including Erewhon, the brand faced operational and financial challenges that were difficult to overcome. Last year, Julie made the decision to shut down the company. Brands in this episode: Magic Cactus, Brez, Patagonia Provisions, Deschutes, Athletic Brewing, Jarritos, Dunkin', Cafiend, Barbarian Water, Bang, AI Energy, Talkback Shortbread, Ferm Fatale

Bo Jackson, the multi-hyphenate sports icon and one of a handful of athletes to play both professional football and baseball, is tackling perhaps his biggest challenge yet – the beverage industry. Bo is the creator of Bo3.0, a brand of zero-sugar hydration powders formulated with ingredients that are designed to support joint, heart and immunity health. Launched in February 2024, the brand comes in three flavors and is sold direct-to-consumer via the Bo3.0 website and Amazon. In this episode, Bo and Larry Wert, the CEO of Jackson & Partners, talk about the creation and positioning of Bo3.0, how it fits into Bo's perspective on nutrition and extends his presence in CPG, and the one reason he wouldn't want consumers to buy the powders. Show notes: 0:25: Interview: Bo Jackson, Creator, Bo3.0 & Larry Wert, CEO, Jackson & Partners – BevNET senior reporter Brad Avery speaks with Bo and Larry at BevNET Live Winter 2024, where the former L.A. Raiders running back and Kansas City Royals outfielder talks about travel troubles before discussing the development of Bo3.0 during the Covid-19 pandemic. Bo also highlights his work in the food industry and why he describes his beverage brand as one in which "we do what everyone else failed to do." He also explains his disdain for those who buy the products solely because of his name, before Larry talks about how Bo3.0 was created to be different from category leading hydration powders. Bo also discusses why they were patient with the launch and why he believes they're "ready to run," how he is involved in marketing and promotional initiatives and why he doesn't watch football or baseball anymore. Brands in this episode: Bo3.0

What can the past inform us about the future? As we enter a new year, this special edition of the podcast revisits three headlines from 2024 that generated inspired discussion among Taste Radio's hosts and may hint at things to come for the food and beverage industry. Show notes: 0:29: PepsiCo Buys Siete – We begin with one of the most celebrated deals of the year, PepsiCo's $1.2 billion acquisition of modern Mexican-American food brand Siete. In this clip, pulled from an episode published on October 3, the hosts discuss Siete's rise in the context of emerging food and beverage trends and how investors and strategic companies evaluate better-for-you brands. 6:59: The Launch of Lunchly – Does the world need a new Lunchables? In September, a trio of high-profile influencers – YouTube sensation Mr. Beast, along with PRIME co-founders Logan Paul and KSI – debuted Lunchly, a brand that is similar to Lunchables' food and format but positioned as a better-for-you alternative. In an episode published on September 20, the hosts weighed in on the new brand and whether it represents significant differentiation from its legacy competitor. 13:52: Pod (Won't) Save America – A popular Linkedin post about how Big CPG impacts routes to market for small brands was the basis for a conversation featured in an episode published on August 30. The hosts, joined by BevNET's director of community Melissa Traverse, discussed the scribe – penned by an executive at online distribution platform Pod Foods – and why UNFI and direct competitors may be unfairly cast as villains. Brands in this episode: Siete, Lunchly, Lunchables, PRIME

In this special edition of the podcast, we feature highlights from interviews with seven innovators, leaders and disruptors who joined us on the show during the second half of 2024. Our guests include Ben Goodwin and David Lester, the co-founders of Olipop; Poorvi Patodia, the founder and CEO of Biena; Charles Coristine, the CEO of LesserEvil; Peter Rahal, the co-founder of RXBAR & David; Olivia Ferdi, the co-Founder of Trip; and Justin Rosenberg, the founder and CEO of Honeygrow. Show notes: 0:32: Interview: Ben Goodwin & David Lester, Co-Founders, Olipop – Let's kick things off with Ben Goodwin and David Lester, the co-founders of leading better-for-you soda brand Olipop, In this clip, pulled from an episode published on August 20, Ben and David talk about why marketing doesn't lean heavily into the products' functionality. They also explain why its mission and economic outcome "will forever be entwined" and why hiring talented leaders at the strategic level is "beyond critical." 11:44: Interview: Poorvi Patodia, Founder & CEO, Biena – Next up we have Poorvia Patodia, the founder and CEO of pioneering chickpea snack brand Biena. In a clip pulled from an episode featured on October 22, Poorvi discusses the "trifecta" of attributes that make for a great brand, how Biena incorporates long-term trends into its innovation strategy and how building to win means learning in small ways. 20:36: Interview: Charles Coristine, CEO, LesserEvil – Let's keep it going with Charles Coristine, the CEO of fast-growing better-for-you snack brand LesserEvil In this clip, from our episode published on July 30, Charles discusses the value of self-manufacturing for end consumers, why he advocates that founders be "super scrappy" and not over-hire, and his belief that being an entrepreneur is "a hero's journey." 25:44: Interview: Peter Rahal, Co-Founder, RXBAR & David – Next we have Peter Rahal, the co-founder of groundbreaking protein bar brands RXBAR and David. In the following clip, pulled from an episode published on October 15, Peter talks about his obsessive work ethic and leadership style, how to create "the best business strategy" and what he means when he says that happiness is "irrelevant." 31:29: Interview: Olivia Ferdi, Co-Founder, Trip – We continue with Olivia Ferdi, the co-founder of calming beverage platform Trip. In this clip, pulled from an episode aired on November 5, Olivia explains why she never did a market analysis prior to launching Trip and why being obsessed with the details from the outset gave the brand a foundation for rapid scale and success. 35:57: Interview: Justin Rosenberg, Founder & CEO, Honeygrow – Finally, we hear from Justin Rosenberg, the founder and CEO of Honeygrow, the innovative and rapidly growing fast-casual restaurant chain. In the following clip, pulled from an episode published on December 3, Justin talks about Honeygrow's focus on using "great" ingredients, "the common denominator" among its leadership team, and how consumer feedback influences menu decisions and new product development. Brands in this episode: Olipop, Biena, LesserEvil, RXBAR, David, Trip, Honeygrow

We're not prognosticators. But we are a hopeful bunch. With a new year on the horizon, the hosts share five (actually, six) wishes for the food and beverage industry in 2025. Swift progress is unexpected, but these are reasonably achievable goals. Show notes: 0:25: Upstarts, Assemble! Cann Do. Deal Us In. More NA, Please. Outrageous = 1.7%. – Ray wonders if the team should consider living bi-coastal before encouraging more collaborations between emerging brands. John opines on the huge opportunity for cannabis-based brands and stirs the pot on M&A and nascent categories. Mike calls for material change in the availability of institutional capital, and Ray (once again) hops on his soap box about artificial ingredients. John touts a "perfect" cocktail, while Mike plinks and pops. Brands in this episode: Fly By Jing, Daily Crunch, Little Sesame, Fishwife, Lundberg, Graza, Aura Bora, Rind, Ghost, C4, French Squirrel, Tanqueray, Guinness, Plink, Happy Pop, Hoste

For a brand with a diminutive name, Small Town Cultures has big ambitions. Based in upstate New York, Small Town Cultures was founded by entrepreneur Cori Deans in 2017. The company uses regional ingredients to make fermented foods that contain no vinegar nor added sugar. Packaged in clear glass jars with minimalist labels designed to showcase the vegetables' natural color and crispness, Small Town Cultures sells a variety of probiotic-rich products, including its Red Onions, Turmeric Kimchi and Traditional Sauerkraut. The brand is distributed nationally at a variety of natural, conventional and independent retail chains, including Whole Foods, Price Chopper, Earth Fare and Central Market. Cori, who created the brand after struggling with a personal illness and later realizing the health benefits of fermented foods, has sought to build Small Town Cultures as a company that can expand the appeal and accessibility of gut-healthy products among consumers across the country. In this episode, Cori discusses how her passion for probiotics led to the development of Small Town Cultures and how she sought to create a brand that stood out from both legacy and upstart players. She also talks about her response to actress/entrepreneur Jessica Alba's DM on Instagram, how she manages the complexity of both production and sales and marketing, and how she assesses new retail and distribution opportunities for fermented foods. Show notes: 0:25: Cori Deans, Founder & CEO, Small Town Cultures – Cori and Taste Radio editor Ray Latif speak amid NOSH Live Winter 2024, where the entrepreneur explains why she "did everything the opposite" when it came to package design and sought to make the use case for Small Town Cultures obvious and accessible. She also talks about how the brand's logo was inspired by Nike, why she was "waiting for someone else to create a brand for me" before launching her company, and how she began the business in the kitchen of her sister's restaurant. Cori also discusses the challenge in finding a co-packer that could make products to her standards, the target consumer for Small Town Cultures and why was determined to get the brand carried by conventional grocery chain Price Chopper. She also explains why she wishes that she had a co-founder, how she talks about the company to new and prospective hires, working with angel investor firm Point Positive and why she's excited about every day. Brands in this episode: Small Town Cultures, Once Upon A Farm

We also speak with Steffin Oghene and Tony Salles, the vice president and third-generation master distiller, respectively, of awarded tequila brand El Tequileño along with Davide Segat, the bars manager at the city's NoMad Hotel, for a conversation about the creation of a limited-edition tequila, the Side Hustle Select Barrel Double Añejo. Show notes: 0:25: So Dark. Timing & Negotiations. Best Of. Tokyo Twinkies. AM Greek Cocktails. – Ray is a hot mess, but it's fine because Donnie Darko and Denis Villeneuve films have entered the chat. John describes Coke and Pepsi's BFY soda plans as "a story we've seen before" and compares the prebiotic pop category to the early days of energy drinks in the U.S. Mike draws an analogy between tech and beverages, Jacqui wonders about the timing of Coke and Pepsi's plans and Ray notes the former's strategy of focusing on its legacy brands as opposed to buying new ones. The hosts also encourage listeners to revisit content from BevNET and NOSH's winter events before wolfing down on the latest viral food sensation and waxing on what makes Gen Z consumers excited about certain snacks and beverages. Mike gets amped about Maazah and Jacqui recalls slugging boozy Greek libations early in the morning. 34:02: Interview: Davide Segat, Side Hustle & Steffin Oghene/Tony Salles, El Tequileño – Davide, Steffin and Tony Salles discuss the rise in tequila consumption and popularity in the U.K. and U.S., the origins of the Side Hustle Select Barrel Double Añejo and how much planning and experimentation went into the final product, and how limited-time offerings fit into the marketing strategies for both Side Hustle and El Tequileño. Brands in this episode: El Tequileño, Simply, Soulboost, Olipop, Poppi, Culture Pop, Sobe, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Vitaminwater, Powerade, BodyArmor, Bubly, Red Bull, Monster Energy, Rockstar Energy, KMX, Mountain Dew, Fresca, Hurray's Girl Beer, Beer Girl, Basic Cellars, Superfoodio, Tokyo Banana, Maazah, Fly By Jing, Gloria's Shito, Kleos, RMBR

Being "basic" has long been a theme of Trey Kennedy's popular standup routine and sketch comedy. He recently introduced the perfect pairing for his humor, Basic Cellars. An Instagram sensation with over three million followers, Trey debuted Basic Cellars in October. Created in partnership with premium wine producer In Good Taste, the brand is designed to appeal to modern consumers who love wine, but are often put off by complicated and confusing verbiage. Basic Cellars sells two wines, a California Pinot Noir and an Italian white, that come in single-serve 187 mL glass bottles. Marketed as "wine for people who don't take themselves too seriously," Basic Cellars is sold online in eight-packs for $60. The brand is gradually making its way into brick-and-mortar stores, according to Trey, who recently joined us for an interview. As part of our conversation, Trey talks about how Basic Cellars melds his passion for comedy and wine, how the brand presents itself as a both an accessible and premium option, how its core audience aligns with that of his own and how he attempts to authentically incorporate the brand into his social media content. Show notes: 0:25: Trey Kennedy, Founder, Basic Cellars – Trey chats with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about how he embraced wine after he "graduated" from beer and why the beverage is popular with his fanbase. He also talks about the reason for Basic Cellars' bottle size, whether featuring the brand in his social posts has generated significant sales and how he attempts to create content that doesn't feel like an ad. Trey also discusses his process for promoting other companies, whether Basic Cellars will begin to sell merchandise, the potential to extend the brand into other beverage categories and how he incorporates consumer feedback into business planning. He also talks about the company's retail strategy and potential collaborations and shares his take on the most effective social media platforms. Brands in this episode: Basic Cellars, Loverboy

The grind is real. And fun as heck. Exhausted, but buoyant, the hosts recap NOSH and BevNET's just-concluded winter events and specifically highlight the three pitch slam competitions and how each respective winner successfully communicated the traction and potential for their brands. Show notes: 0:25: Bowels & Beer. The Squish Wins. Viviana Approves. R Roll. Swag & Walnuts. NA FTW. Ask Away. – In the Taste Radio studio at the Marina Del Rey Marriott, the hosts chat about NOSH Live Pitch Slam winner Mochi Love and how differentiation made difference in the competition. They also talk about soju-based RTD cocktail brand Yoju, which won BevNET's Live's Cocktail Showdown, as well as Good Beverage Co, a pouch-packaged cocktail brand that also wowed judges. John and Jacqui praised New Beverage Showdown winner Recoup, before Ray and Mike highlighted a few other founders and brands that impressed them at BevNET Live. Mike praised service supplier presentations at NOSH Live, including Bay State Milling and the California Walnut Board, Ray shows love to a new non-alcoholic brand created by the CMO of an "illegal" mezcal and an NA amaro spritz, and encourages event attendees to stay in touch. He also thanks the BevNET team for their consistently incredible work. Brands in this episode: Beer Girl, Hurray's Girl Beer, Mochi Love, Harken Sweets, Chutni Punch, Doosra, Nooish, Brune Kitchen, Tequio, Gardenista, Hoste, Buzzball, BeatBox, Yoju, Good Beverage Co., LIXIR, Recoup, Fruga, Jarritos, Mas Energy, Hike, Marquis, Loverboy, Ilegal Mezcal, Como No, Optimist Botanicals, Melo, Wildwonder, Taika, Happy Pop, Koia

How do you simultaneously operate one of the world's most awarded bars and a local drink hangout in London? If you're Monica Berg, you serve every customer with the same level of respect, passion and enthusiasm. An award-winning mixologist celebrated for her distinctive and innovative approach to cocktails, Monica is one of the world's most respected figures in the business of spirits and hospitality. She is the co-owner of Tayēr + Elementary in London, a dual-concept drinking establishment which in October was named the fourth-best bar in the world by international awards program The 50 Best. Monica is also the co-founder of MUYU, a brand of sophisticated and modern liqueurs infused with aromatic essences from plants, flowers and fruits and developed in partnership with Netherlands-based De Kuyper Royal Distillers. In this episode, Monica talks about how her background in bartending and hospitality shaped the creation and vision for Tayer & Elementary. She also shares her perspective on flavor trends and the drivers of new concepts and how she assesses innovation as it relates to new spirits and cocktail ingredients. Monica also discusses the origins of Muyu and how it fills a need for bars and consumers and what's resonating with its target audience. Show notes: 0:35: Monica Berg, Co-Founder, Tayer & Elementary/MUYU – Monica and Taste Radio editor Ray Latif chat in the Elementary side of the entrepreneur's famous establishment amidst the cacophonous sounds of a bar preparing to open for the day. Monica talks about why it's her "dream bar," why she believes that every "every trend has an anti-trend" and why she's drawn to minimalism and simplicity. She also explains how she dealt with criticism early in her career, how she evaluates new products and what it's like being on the other side of the table as a brand owner. Monica also shares her perspective on rising interest in sober lifestyles and alcohol alternatives, including THC and mushrooms, how drinking culture in London has changed in recent years and her recommendations for where to imbibe in the city. Brands in this episode: MUYU

When in Los Angeles, you know the hosts are making an Erewhon run. As they sift through bags of new, innovative and unusual beverages and snacks purchased at the high-end retailer, the hosts discuss Erewhon's reputation as a launching pad for emerging brands. We also sit down with Nicola Hart and Leon Pullin of Agua De Madre, a London-based brand of water kefir and other functional beverages. Show notes: 0:25: Marina Del Ray. We Drank Pizza Wine. Next Stop… Walmart? Protein Everything. – As the hosts settle into the Taste Radio studio at NOSH Live Winter 2024, Ray releases a bit of frustration before John de-waxes and uncorks Pizza Hut's infamous tomato wine, of which everyone has a splash. John spreads spicy dried mango, several functional drinks and a few protein-infused snacks across the podcasting table, and while the hosts sample, they discuss the scalability of innovative concepts and whether premium sweet treats need functional ingredients. 32:27: Interview: Nicola Hart, Founder & Leon Pullin, Managing Director, Agua De Madre – Launched in 2017, Agua De Madre markets water kefir and ginger and turmeric shots that are distributed throughout England, including at Whole Foods stores, and are also sold direct-to-consumer via its website. The products are made in small batches at Agua De Madre's fermentory and production facility in East London. We met up with Nicola and Leon in London for a conversation about the origins of the brand and their approach to formulation, consumer education and distribution, as well as the opportunity they see for retail in the U.S. Brands in this episode: Agua De Madre, Senor Mango, Kif, Flowin, French Squirrel, Nelly's Organics, Sprinkle Bites, Feisty Soda, Better Booch, Rmbr, Bliss Ball, WBS, Ghia, San Pellegrino

Six years after Justin Rosenberg opened the first location of Honeygrow, the fast-casual restaurant chain was at a crossroads. Its growth strategy, he says, was "too entrepreneurial." Founded in 2012, Honeygrow, which is short for "honest food, grown locally," sells stir-fry meals, salads and desserts made with fresh and better-for-you ingredients. The Philadelphia-based company currently operates over 50 restaurants in seven states with plans to open several more in the coming months. While Honeygrow is in the midst of an ambitious expansion plan, Justin, who has raised $80 million in equity financing since its inception, is attuned to the challenges he faced six years after the restaurant's debut. At that time, the company had veered away from the brand elements that made Honeygrow special in the eyes of its customers in favor of an approach that, in hindsight, was overly focused on opening new locations. In this episode, Justin talks about his initial vision for Honeygrow, what he learned from taking a hands-on approach during its early years despite having almost no experience in foodservice, and how the company is trying to "perfect the algorithm of the brand." He also discusses Honeygrow's sourcing strategy and its focus on serving "great" ingredients and "amazing customer experiences," how he evaluates service and quality at individual locations of Honeygrow, and why day-to-day management of the business – and not an exit strategy – is always top of mind. Show notes: 0:35: Justin Rosenberg, Founder & CEO, Honeygrow – Justin talks about why he's constantly on the road, how he evaluates potential locations for new Honeygrow restaurants and why his store visits are typically unannounced (and the one time it almost led to a fight). He also explains why his vision and goal for the company are tied to customer experience, the origins of the name Honeygrow and its design aesthetic, why the restaurant chain is focused on stir fry meals, salads, and its "honeybars" and how a chance meeting helped him find an ideal ingredient. Justin and Ray hail their love for an HBO television series about entrepreneurship (and find common bonds in apparel) before the Honeygrow founder explains why the chain was developed to be an international brand and what gave him the confidence to open its second location. He also talks about the generally collegial relationships among founders of fast-casual chains, how a "pressure to grow" led to Honeygrow to expand too quickly and almost go out of business in 2018, how the company righted the ship and how he managed the challenges on a personal level. Justin also discusses "the common denominator" among Honeygrow's leadership team, how "trust comes with time and wins," whether an entrepreneurial mindset among store employees is welcomed, how consumer feedback influences menu decisions and new product development and why he looks at Yelp and Google reviews every morning. Brands in this episode: Honeygrow, RxBar, David, Coca-Cola

Days away from BevNET's winter events in Marina Del Rey, the hosts discuss the legal battle between lifestyle fitness brands Prime and Mas+ by Messi and why it may help one company more than the other, regardless of the outcome. They also sample a big brand's take on an ethnic classic and explain their love/hate relationship with an emerging brand. Show notes: 0:25: When Ray's Away… So Many Meetings, Plenty Of Time. Ignore The Script. Blow Up The Box. – With Ray OOO, Mike takes the reins and does a decent job as the primary host ;) The team highlights new opportunities for BevNET/NOSH Live attendees, including retail buyer and investor meetings and how simple interactions at the events can lead to positive and significant outcomes. They also talk about Prime/Mas+ lawsuits and the distractions they are causing for both brands, a nut brand with an unforgettable name, how Lex Bakes and Cedar's are driving Craven crazy (in different ways), and a new NA cocktail that is roundly praised. Brands in this episode: Prime, Mas+, Bang, Jewels Under The Kilt, Nutsack, RIVR, Lexington Bakes, TCHO, Rakka, French Squirrel, Bake Me Healthy, Aplos, Lapos, St. Agretis, Cedar's, De Soi, Fruga

"Walked out this morning, I don't believe what I saw. Hundred billion bottles washed up on the shore." Those lyrics from the hit song "Message In A Bottle" by The Police probably touched a nerve with Josh White. The young British DJ had become increasingly dismayed by the sight of throngs of single-serve plastic water bottles appearing on exotic beaches. As he considered the problem, one solution came to the forefront: aluminum. Josh is the co-founder and CEO of Cano Water, a trailblazing water company based in the U.K. Launched in 2014, it was one of the first brands to sell water in metal cans, which the company presents as a more sustainable option than plastic containers. Leading with the tagline "Don't bottle it." Cano Water is distributed throughout Europe and is aligned with several well-known British retailers and investors, including Sainsbury and Ricky Gervais. Cano Water is in the midst of new distribution in Southern California, where the brand is partnered with beverage incubator L.A. Libations. In an interview featured in this episode, Josh explains why he describes himself as "an accidental entrepreneur," the challenging but ultimately successful path to finding a manufacturing partner, how a cold email helped Cano Water land its first major retailer, and how the company is leaning into its British roots as it expands distribution into the U.S. Show notes: 0:35: Josh White, Co-Founder & CEO, Cano Water – Josh and Taste Radio editor Ray Latif meet up at the Trip office in Notting Hill where the entrepreneur recounts a DJ gig at the wedding of a famous U.K. politician and talks about his wayward youth and becoming a successful business owner in his late teens. He also explains why he and his co-founders forged ahead despite colleagues and family members who doubted their plans, how they came up with the brand name and sought to position Cano Water as a sophisticated option, and how sustainability is at the core of all marketing initiatives. Josh also talks about how being "unapologetically honest" while presenting a polished image helps the brand stand out amongst its competitors. Brands in this episode: Cano Water, Fiji Water, Voss

Collaborations – the good, the strange, and the wow – anchor this episode. The hosts debate whether a tomato-based wine co-created by Pizza Hut can help change the fortunes of a sluggish industry and discuss an unusual, but effective, marketing campaign featuring a partnership between sex workers and non-alcoholic spirits. This episode features an interview with Bella Hughes and Semira Nikou, the co-founders of better-for-you gummy brand Better Sour, which recently collaborated with Disney on a new product that celebrates the release of the movie "Moana 2." Show notes: 0:25: Haven't Seen It. Just Ask, We'll Answer. Stop Wine-ing. Mike's New Meme. Brodo FTW. Breakfast Shrimp. — No, not everyone has streamed Moana. The hosts urge listeners not to miss out on the upcoming events and share tips on how attendees can prepare for them. They're also divided on a libation created to pair with a popular Italian dish. Ray highlights The Free Spirit Co.'d provocative take on non-alc naysayers before spreading the wealth of broth sent to the office. The hosts also riff on fruit punch and Jacqui's unusual first meal of the day. 27:55: Bella Hughes & Semira Nikou, Co-Founders, Better Sour – Bella and Semira talk about their backstory as friends and founders and the genesis of Better Sour, the brand's growth strategy and how it's positioned to appeal to modern consumers. They also discussed the company's partnership with Disney and how they prepared for the rollout of the new flavor and how they're maintaining Better Sour's focus and trajectory amid a wave of new opportunities for the brand. Brands in this episode: Better Sour, Minor Figures, Proxies, Basic Cellars, Lemonday, Lemon Perfect, Plezi, Hawaiian Punch, Hodo, Scott & Jon's

Luke Boase launched Lucky Saint in 2018, but he says the brand's potential for an iconic future has always been top of mind. As the leading dedicated non-alcoholic beer brand in the U.K., Lucky Saint is sold in over 10,000 points of distribution in the country, including more than 1,000 pubs and restaurants. That number includes its own bar in London, aptly named The Lucky Saint, which operates at the base of a building that also houses the company's office. Last year, the company raised a £10m Series A round that included funding from VC firm JamJar Investments. Led by a mission to become "the world's defining alcohol-free brand," Lucky Saint is resonating with both sober consumers and moderate drinkers, according to Luke. Inclusivity is a key theme of the company's marketing and communication strategy, leading with a message of quality and appeal as a beverage for anyone who isn't drinking. In the following interview, Luke talks about how his interest in entrepreneurship sparked the idea for Lucky Saint and why he has a long-term vision for the brand. He also explains how the company incorporates consumer insights and data into its retail and buyers pitches, his views on Lucky Saint's role in the non-alcoholic beer category and how he thinks about competing with strategically-owned and -aligned beer companies. Show notes: 0:35: Luke Boase, Founder, Lucky Saint – Luke speaks with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about The Lucky Saint pub and why he felt it was important to offer a variety of alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, how he saw an opportunity to create a premium non-alcoholic beer brand and the two-year process behind its creation. He also talks about identifying the right retailers for Lucky Saint and why the company works with dozens of Michelin-starred restaurants, as well as the consistency of demand for non-alcoholic beer and how he factors ambition into the company's strategy. Brands in this episode: Lucky Saint, Heineken, Guinness

Innovative protein brands and proactive meetings. The hosts advocate for both in this episode, which also features an interview with Trey Zoeller, the founder of pioneering whiskey maker Jefferson's Bourbon, a brand recognized by and awarded for its Ocean Aged At Sea expression, a whiskey matured on ships that travel around the world. Show notes: 0:25: Bag It. Face To Face > Email. Take A Minute. The Liver! Fridge Pop. Beard Scoby. – Less than three weeks away from BevNET's winter events, Ray gets agitated while sharing some important travel tips and the hosts explain why meeting John Foraker in December should be on your agenda. They also introduce a new Taste Radio social series, enjoy a new kind of scent in the studio and sample several products from protein-centric brands, including ancestral meat snacks, peanut butter cookies, and mint chip-flavored shakes. Ray also highlights a new brand of macron pops and John tests out a new kombucha-inspired after shave. 28:41: Interview: Trey Zoeller, Founder, Jefferson's Bourbon – Trey, who first joined us for an interview in 2020, talks about why the pairing of oysters and Jefferson's Bourbon Ocean Aged At Sea expression works so well. He also discusses the origins of the uniquely matured whiskey and why the product was initially disparaged by his industry colleagues, and how Jefferson's, which is known for its innovative approach to aging, maintains the cache and image of being a renegade while simultaneously being a widely distributed and popular brand. Brands in this episode: Daily Crunch, Once Upon A Farm, Fly By Jing, Country Archer, Russian River Brewing, Kombuchade, Hint, Grounded, LifeAid, H&H, Macarooz, Health-Ade, Dogfish Head, Love & Chew, Lenny & Larry's, Jefferson's Bourbon

Most Americans eat cold bread. Ismail Salhi and Johanna Hartzheim are changing that dynamic one loaf at a time. Ismail and Johanna are the founders of Wildgrain, a subscription-based service that ships boxes of par-baked frozen sourdough, pastries and hand-cut pasta to customers across the country. The married couple and business partners came to the U.S. after years of living in Paris and wanted to give people access to the same warm loaves of artisanal breads, flaky croissants and chewy dinner rolls they ate daily in France. Wildgrain partners with local bakers across the U.S. to produce its products, which are made with no preservatives, no artificial flavors and no bleached flour. No thawing is required. Just a few minutes in the oven is all you need to make fresh, warm bread. Since Ismail and Johanna launched Wildgrain in 2020 at the outset of the Covid-19 pandemic, it has become one of the most successful food delivery companies in America generating $30 million in revenue last year and turning profitable. How did Wildgrain achieve its position and why does the company's trajectory continue to rise? The throughline has always been an extremely high level of customer service, according to Ismail, who we spoke with for an interview featured in this episode of Taste Radio. Show notes: 0:35: Ismail Salhi, Co-Founder, Wildgrain – Ismail talks about the growing number of artisanal bakeries in urban neighborhoods, including his own and why "the delicious window" makes all the difference when baking and buying bread. He also discusses he and Joanna's decision to launch Wildgrain after shutting down their previous business, how they convinced a tech investor to buy into their new concept, and why they shifted focus after originally planning to build a vertically integrated company. Ismail also explains why being obsessed with your existing customer base is key to a subscription-based model, how Wildgrain has created a network of suppliers that provide consistent quality (if not taste), how they kept customers happy when things went wrong with deliveries early in the company's development, and why customer service is embedded in Wildgrain's marketing strategy. Ismail also talks about how the company achieved profitability three years after its launch, mitigating a potential plateauing of its subscription model and why Wildgrain doesn't hire "until it's painful." Brands in this episode: Wildgrain, RXBAR, David, Lesser Evil, AG1

The world needs plant-based spam. Nootropic beverages will make a comeback in 2025. T-shirts are the best brand swag. It's buy-or-sell time, and the hosts transact in opinions. This episode also features interviews with the leaders of two fast-growing U.K.-based CPG companies: Jack Scott, the co-founder of flavored sparkling water brand Dash, and Kathryn Bricken, the founder of Doughlicious, a brand of frozen cookie dough and gelato bites. Show notes: 0:25: No Results. We're Available. Mindcraft. Un-Appealing. Brand Brush. Call It A Comeback. Like, Thanks. – Election Day has come and gone, but the hosts still don't know who won. They will, however, be available to answer questions and make connections at BevNET's Winter events. But before that, Ray needs a drop or two. Unmeat is on the plate, and not everyone is happy. Denim jackets might be the best gift you can give a customer (or member of the media) with toothbrushes coming in a close second. Mike urges everyone to back a coffee brand, salty snacks are all the rage, especially ones that taste like a turkey dinner, and a BFY gummy brand gets a big time partner. 37:33: Interview: Jack Scott, Co-Founder, Dash – Jack shares an introduction to Dash and discusses the company's international distribution strategy, what he learned about the brand's brief stint in the U.S. market and why hasn't it been a priority since, and why the American market is sometimes described as the "graveyard of so many British brands" 53:07: Interview: Kathryn Bricken, Founder & CEO, Doughlicious – Kathryn talks about the genesis of Doughlicious and why she chose to launch a frozen brand, how she assessed the timing and prepared for a U.S. launch, and how Whole Foods evaluated the brand and what gave its buyers confidence in its ability to succeed on its shelves. She also discusses Doughlicious' national rollout at Target and how the company planned for a dramatic expansion in geography as well as a new retail channel and consumer base. Brands in this episode: Dash, Doughlicious, Mochi Love, NOOISH, CHUTNI PUNCH, Harken Sweets, Brune Kitchen Doosra, Apothekary, Heyday Canning Co., Belgian Boys, Nguyen Coffee Supply, Fly By Jing, Four Sigmatic, Magic Mind, Comeback Coffee, Like Air, Jones Soda, Once Upon A Coconut, Grounded Shakes, Pipcorn, Better Sour

Olivia Ferdi is obsessed with the details. The co-founder of Trip, a U.K.-based brand of lightly sparkling functional beverages intended to help people relax, Olivia says that a passion for the particulars is a key reason why Trip is the fastest-growing soft drink brand in the U.K. and currently preparing for a major expansion of its retail presence in the American market. Trip debuted in 2019 and markets two product lines: one infused with CBD and adaptogens and the other, called Mindful Blend, is made with Lion's Mane, ashwagandha, L-theanine and magnesium. The brand is sold in over 30,000 points of distribution across Europe and the U.S and its Mindful Blend line will be available nationally at three yet-to-be-announced retail chains beginning in the first quarter of 2025. In this episode, Olivia discusses how Trip's philosophy of "product obsession" helped gave the company a fast start and keeps it building towards a more promising future. She also explains why "the customer is sacrosanct," how the company is applying lessons from success in e-commerce to its brick and mortar business and why humility is key to its U.S. expansion. Show notes: 0:35: Olivia Ferdi, Co-Founder, Trip – Olivia and Taste Radio editor Ray Latif chat about the industry meetup hosted the evening prior to their conversation, before the entrepreneur talks about Trip's sponsorship of a Dua Lipa surprise concert in London later in the day. She also discusses Trip's partnership with the Calm app, why she and Daniel never intended to build Trip as a U.K. brand, and how their personal experience with CBD became a "blind passion" to create a brand as a way to give people access to the ingredient. Olivia also explains how Trip's "customer first" strategy has set it apart, how its well-crafted label design allowed the company to avoid using paid media early on, how she's attempting to avoid pitfalls in the U.S. and the one word that can help Trip become a household name. Brands in this episode: Trip, Brewdog, Sipsmith, Beavertown

Another episode, another billion-dollar deal. In this case, the buyer (KDP), if not the brand (Ghost), is somewhat surprising. The hosts have their say. They also highlight a couple spicy collaborations, but are divided on one of them. We also speak with Lexy Prosszer, an investment principal at U.K.-based venture capital firm Btomorrow Ventures, which is focused on investments in innovative, functional brands. Show notes: 0:25: Who Bailed Mike Out? Elektra x Nosh. Scary Deal. A Wonky Pad. Where's My Order? Keep Crunching. – Mike made it out of the can in time for a big announcement about Nosh Live Winter 2024 and a deadline that won't be extended. The hosts discuss KDP's acquisition of Ghost Lifestyle and how it relates to the evolution of the energy drink category. They also pine for an LTO that pairs sprouted almonds and chili crunch but butt heads when it comes to a pickle juice-infused bloody mary mix. Mike recalls meetings and drinks with U.K-based entrepreneurs before he, Ray and John snack on "transportive" pecans and a holiday-inspired snack that your bubbe would love. 39:03: Interview: Lexy Prosszer, Investment Principal, Btomorrow Ventures – Ray sat down with Lexy during Taste Radio's meetup at the Trip office in London, where she discussed Btomorrow Ventures' investment strategy, how she assesses a brand's potential for international distribution and success, and whether global trends influence how she evaluates brands. Brands in this episode: Moment, HOP WTR, Once Upon A Farm, Ghost, Celsius, Bang, Red Bull, Monster, C4, A Shoc, Rao's, Coca-Cola, V8, Grillo's, Ithaca Hummus, Fresca, Simply, Dash, Chili Maven, Living Things, Xoxo, Olipop, Poppi, Hiphop, Feisty Soda, Daily Crunch, Fly By Jing, Cleveland Kitchen, Karma Nuts/Cookies, Pulpito, Wanderlands, Knack Snacks, Babo's Kitchen, S'Noods

Ben Branson is not the kind of person you'd find at a cocktail party. In fact, he loathes socializing. And, yet, he's deeply invested in its future. Ben is best known as the founder of Seedlip, the pioneering nonalcoholic spirit brand that was at the forefront of the now burgeoning category of zero proof beverages. In 2019, Ben sold a majority stake of Seedlip to beverage alcohol conglomerate Diageo, which, at the time, described the brand as "a global drinks giant of the future." While Ben is still a shareholder in Seedlip and continues to operate as part of its team, he's set his sights on the next stage of development for non-alcoholic beverages and cocktails via a new venture called Pollen Projects. The U.K.-based company introduced two brands this year: Seasn, which markets premium cocktail bitters designed to be "the salt & pepper for drinks"; and Sylva, an innovative take on dark non-alcoholic spirits. Both brands are the heart of Ben's mission to shape "the second wave of moderation," helping people to drink and, in turn, socialize better. In the following interview, I spoke with Ben about his perspective on an evolving market for non-alcoholic beverages and his roles as both godfather and innovator, why he's not trying to supplant legacy spirits and why he's betting big on an unusual sourcing and production model. Show notes: 0:35: Ben Branson, Founder, Seedlip & Pollen Projects - Ben recalls his first appearance on Taste Radio in 2018 and reflects on his 11-year career in non-alcoholic spirits, including why he hated the first six months building Seedlip and what is motivating his work with Pollen Projects. He also explains why he doesn't feel any "external pressure" as leader of the non-alcoholic category, but why he's concerned about brands delivering the quality and flavors that consumers are expecting and how his success with Seedlip has made it somewhat easier to develop new brands. Ben also shares his perspective on legacy beverage alcohol brands launching zero-proof versions, common attributes among "the best" non-alcoholic brands and why some brands "are going to suffer." He also talks about why he's constantly focused on the future of socializing even though he describes himself as "unsocial." Ben also discusses the creation and business strategy of Sylva, his unique approach to ingredients and sourcing and why he chose to market the NA dark spirits brand via a subscription model and how he evaluates investors and new funding opportunities. Brands in this episode: Seedlip, Season, Sylva, RXBAR, David

It turns out that superheroes and 'saints' enjoy beer and cocktails, particularly when the libations are of the non-alcoholic variety. The hosts chat about actor Tom Holland's foray into CPG with NA beer Bero, before riffing on an enlightening collaboration between an up-and-coming wine company and personal care brand. We also feature an interview with Megan Klein, the founder and CEO of Little Saints, an innovative brand of non-alcoholic cocktails infused with functional mushrooms, who recently appeared on "Shark Tank." Little Saints markets several canned cocktails, including a Paloma, Negroni Spritz, Ginger Mule and Spicy Margarita, and also sells a mezcal-inspired spirit called St. Ember. While the products are primarily sold direct-to-consumer, the brand is carried nationally at Sprouts and rapidly expanding distribution at other retail chains. Show notes: 0:25: It's A Wrap. Save Money & Be The Best. Gold, Tom. Red Wine, White Teeth. Swiss Bourbon. Pita & Garlic. – Ray ties a bow on the hosts' recent visit to London and the hosts collectively encourage listeners to save money by registering for our Winter events TODAY and also nominate brands, people and products for our annual awards. They also comment on a handful of collaborations, including one between McBride Sisters wine and Colgate(!), a bourbon flavored by a well-known cocoa brand and a sparkling beverage company that's working with a lauded baking partner. The hosts also share their take on Koia's new kids' drinks, spicy delights from a British brand with Mexican roots, low- and non-alcoholic spirits, and a new line of restaurant-style pita chips that pair perfectly with a new garlic-y condiment (just ask John). 32:59: Interview: Megan Klein, Founder & CEO, Little Saints – Megan discusses how her personal interest in better-for-you adult libations led to the creation of Little Saints. She also speaks about the brand's unorthodox social media strategy, why dropping CBD from the products had a big impact on sales, why the company invests heavily in Meta ads, how Little Saints navigated a controversial issue and how she prepared for an appearance on the ABC business competition show "Shark Tank." Brands in this episode: Little Saints, Trip, Cano Water, MUYU, Bero, McBride Sisters, Swiss Miss, Hotel Tango, Aura Bora, Magnolia Bakery, Koia, Chili Maven, Allora, Quarter Proof, Climbing Kites, Outrageous, Issa's, Momofuku

Biena was at a crossroads. Five years ago, the brand's popular roasted chickpeas were widely distributed at natural and conventional grocery chains, including Walmart, Whole Foods and Target, and the brand was making significant headway in travel retail stores. That year, Biena also completed an $8 million Series B funding round and launched an innovative line of chickpea puffs that helped establish the company as a snacking platform. The pandemic, however, forced founder Poorvi Patodia to adjust its growth strategy. Biena was faced with declining margins and retail channels that were once promising but now unprofitable. Patodia had to make, in her words, "risky decisions." Biena may have changed course, but its focus on financial fundamentals and mainstream consumer appeal helped the brand remain on a sustainable and long-term growth path. In this episode, Poorvi talks about how Biena navigated the challenging period and how a "build to win" philosophy influenced key decisions during the process. She also defines and explains the value of "true differentiation," why the company is pursuing a dual platform strategy and shares her take on when founders should raise capital and how to identify distributors with aligned values. Show notes: 0:35: Poorvi Patodia, Founder & CEO, Biena — Poorvi talks about judging a pitch slam hosted by Naturally New England, Biena's unexpected appearance in a Kristen Bell-led TV show, and why her family keeps her grounded amid the pressures of operating a food business. She also offers her take on PepsiCo's acquisition of Siete and how differentiated brand attributes and mainstream appeal have been key to its success. Poorvi also discusses why Biena re-evaluated every approach and strategy associated with the business during a challenging time for the brand, the data and consumer insights that informed a new platform strategy, and why the company's chip line is focused on functionality and calories versus ingredients. She also explains the importance of testing and learning in small ways, having enough cash on hand and why founders shouldn't worry about margin when choosing a distribution partner. Brands in this episode: Biena, Siete, RXBAR, David

How do U.K. CPG brands compare to their U.S. counterparts? How do the two markets differ? On the ground in London, the hosts discuss their experience at last week's Cheers! The Drinks Summit event and highlight innovative snacks and beverages they encountered at visits to local retail chains and specialty stores. Show notes: 0:25: What Day Is It? Possessive Peeve. Jacqui x Ox Heart. Club Soda. Irony, Sir. Magnesium FTW. Cosmo John. The Nuances & Inspiration. – Jet lag and full days make the hosts bleary-eyed, but they are somehow upbeat and alert. Ray questions the name of a well-known U.K.-based grocery retailers before the hosts discuss notable drink brands and categories, including non-alcoholic analogs, magnesium waters, bottle soups and gut-health sodas. They also talk about the bustling Taste Radio meetup at The Lucky Saint pub and what U.S. brand owners can glean from business strategies of U.K.-based founders. The hosts also talk about BevNET's upcoming live events and why "Ray Latif Live" is in the works. Brands in this episode: Trip, Quorn, Moju, Innocent Drinks, ISH, The Root Co., Vacay, OHMG, Better You, Bonbuz, Ghia, Little Saints, De Soi, Kettle & Fire, Re:Nourish, Brink, Whitebox Cocktails, Olipop, Poppi, Living Things, Minor Figures, Fibe, Belly Dance, Feisty Soda, Barcode, Lucky Saint, Dash Water, Doughlicious, Buff Bake, Knack-Snacks

How do you top a $600 million exit? If you're Peter Rahal, you aim for one that's four times bigger. Anything less, he says, would be a failure. Peter is one of the co-founders of RXBAR, a platform brand of clean ingredient protein snacks created in 2013. Four years after the brand's debut, it was acquired by Kellogg for the aforementioned nine figure sum. Earlier this year, Peter launched David, which is positioned as "a rigorously perfected protein bar." Each bar contains 28g protein, 150 calories, and 0g sugar and is described as containing the most protein per calorie of any brand in the bar category. The products are sold direct-to-consumer for $15 for a 4-pack of each flavor, which include Blueberry Pie, Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, Double Fudge Brownie, and Cake Batter. In August the company announced a $10 million seed funding round, led by Peter and including Valor Siren Ventures along with longevity expert and bestselling author Dr. Peter Attia and Stanford neuroscientist and podcast host Andrew Huberman. In an interview framed as a series of true or false questions, Peter discusses his obsessive work ethic and leadership style and reflects on the business strategy and decisions that helped RXBAR scale rapidly, including the impact of investing in high quality packaging design and customer service. He talks about how to create "the best business strategy" and what he means when he says that happiness is "irrelevant." Show notes: 0:35: Peter Rahal, Co-Founder, RXBAR & David – Peter explains why, despite having an introverted personality, he tries to be visible and accessible as a founder, whether he's become comfortable with success and why he doesn't necessarily believe that RXBAR's success has to do with time and place. He also discusses his disdain for vacations, why he's a proponent of "servant leadership," why great packaging is the best form of marketing and why investment in customer service will always pay off. Peter also talks about why founders should strive to create accessible and affordable food and why they have to place a target on the bestselling brand in their brand's category and why his investment strategy hinges on a founder's tenacity and mindset. Brands in this episode: RXBAR, David

With Taste Radio's London meetups on the horizon, the hosts have their say on trendy brands, new products and the coming crush of seasonal LTOs. They share their respective takes on David, the high-profile protein bar brand launched by RXBAR co-founder Peter Rahal and whether decaf coffee is about to take off. They also get giddy about green cocktails and a record-breaking advent calendar. Show notes: 0:25: A "Man Cold"? An English Itinerary. Let's Eat David. Welcome Back, Pop. TUR-meric. Jacqui's X-Mas Gift. – John is recovering from a sniffle, but still well enough to take a cross-country day trip. Ray gives a rundown of the hosts' London plans. The Newton crew samples David bars and everyone weighs in on the brand's positioning and potential. Ray congratulates an industry veteran on a "perfect" gig before Mike talks about a turmeric-centric beverage brand and its upcoming package refresh. Jacqui digs on caffeine-free coffee and coffee alternatives and John breaks out an unusual RTD cocktail, while Ray praises Straightaway Cocktails' latest opus. Brands in this episode: Lucky Saint, Trip, Dash, Doughlicious, David, RXBAR, Lemon Perfect, Vita Coco, Jagermeister, Red Bull, Golden Tiger, BodyArmor, Celsius, Olipop, Mud/Wtr, Ryze, Cuppa, Explorer Cold Brew, Gardenista, Nurri, Fancypants, Straightaway Cocktails

For the first 65 years of its existence, Maker's Mark had no innovation department. The legacy whiskey brand, known for its red wax coated bottle necks and premium, yet approachable, bourbon, had long focused on quality and consistency in favor of new product development. The spirits industry, however, is evolving. Consumers are placing greater value on innovative concepts and embracing creative offerings. Meanwhile, Gen Z drinkers are consuming less alcohol than previous generations, but also emphasizing premium experiences when they imbibe. To meet the demands of equally important consumer groups – loyal Maker's Mark customers and modern drinkers new to the brand – the company tasked Beth Buckner, the brand's senior manager of innovation and blending, and Blake Layfield, its senior director and head of innovation, blending and quality, with the stewardship of the bourbon's coveted taste profile and creation of products that will attract novel interest. We sat down with Beth and Blake for an interview that explores their roles and responsibilities and how the standards set by Maker's Mark founder Bill Samuels, Sr. are integral to new product development. As part of our conversation, they discuss a common misconception about science and spirits, how a "taste vision" is the foundation for everything they do at Maker's Mark and why they eschew trendy concepts in favor of nuanced expressions of the bourbon. Show notes: 0:35: Beth Buckner and Blake Layfield, Maker's Mark – Beth and Blake talk about their respective educations and work at Maker's Mark and how they align the chemistry of distillation and aging with the subjective and sensorial aspects of producing bourbon. They also discuss how the distillery's "taste vision" influences their work as product developers and quality control professionals and how much latitude they give themselves if and when they want to veer slightly away from that vision. Beth and Blake also explain where they draw inspiration from; how they are empowered to innovate while incorporating the perspective of the distilling, marketing and sales teams; how trends and consumer behavior factor into their purview and how they are making their own mark at Maker's Mark. Brands in this episode: Maker's Mark, Jack Daniel's, Coca-Cola

What is the impact of PepsiCo's $1.2 billion acquisition of Siete Foods on emerging food and beverage brands? Will the deal entice investors to make more bets on new and innovative concepts? Will everyday Americans benefit from the deal? Lots of questions, and the hosts answer them all. They also discuss upcoming Taste Radio meetups in London (and how to register for them), a budding partnership between nutritional supplement brand AG1 and Starbucks and sample several new products, including an olive-oil-infused granola, royally-named pretzel bites and "super" non-alcoholic aperitivo. Show notes: 0:25: Ray's Intro Voice. What A Trip. Siete Stuns. Haters Be Gone. Green Juice, Redux. King Me. Good To See You Peepal. – The episode opens with a misunderstanding about the U.K and Great Britain and an invitation to our English- and European-based friends and colleagues. The hosts also dive into the PepsiCo/Siete deal and why most are praising the soda and snack giant's acquisition of the Mexican-American food brand, while others are greeting the news with a mild amount of skepticism. They also unpack Starbucks' test of AG1-infused beverages, and sample a Graza/RIND collaboration, an NYC classic made for modern times, a 70's themed drink and a coffee made for active consumers. Brands in this episode: Trip, Dash, King's Hawaiian, Casamara Club Superclasico, RIND, Graza, Aura Bora, Throne Sport Coffee, Peepal People