Marvel Versus Marvel

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Our deep-dive into the failed 90’s Captain America movie is the most recent episode to feature in the Year 5 Top 5, from February of 2025. Listener Graddlecakes said “the behind the scenes section is maybe the very best you’ve ever done”. How and why did this Marvel movie become a complete low budget disaster? We’ll take you behind-the-scenes on how Cannon Films got into the Marvel movie business, how JD Salinger’s son was cast as Steve Rogers, and how the whole production lost its entire six million dollar budget right before filming! It’s a crazy story of a film being re-written on the fly, cameras running out of film, and the studio hating the finished movie so much they re-edited the entire thing … and made it worse! We’ll also explore Captain America in the 1980’s to uncover perhaps the most interesting and political time in the history of the character. And we’ll deep-dive the movie scene-by-scene as only MVM can! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Our deep-dive into the failed 90’s Captain America movie is the most recent episode to feature in the Year 5 Top 5, from February of 2025. Listener Graddlecakes said “the behind the scenes section is maybe the very best you’ve ever done”. How and why did this Marvel movie become a complete low budget disaster? We’ll take you behind-the-scenes on how Cannon Films got into the Marvel movie business, how JD Salinger’s son was cast as Steve Rogers, and how the whole production lost its entire six million dollar budget right before filming! It’s a crazy story of a film being re-written on the fly, cameras running out of film, and the studio hating the finished movie so much they re-edited the entire thing … and made it worse! We’ll also explore Captain America in the 1980’s to uncover perhaps the most interesting and political time in the history of the character. And we’ll deep-dive the movie scene-by-scene as only MVM can! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

We continue our Apocalypse Takeover month with this fantastic companion piece to the X-Men: Apocalypse movie! So many people were excited for the 2016 movie because they were first exposed to the character in the brilliant X-Men Animated Series of the 90s! So join Rob and Will for a deep-dive into the 2 episodes that introduced the world to Apocalypse for the first time! We’ll bring you the full story of how Angel became Archangel, the history of the Four Horsemen, Apocalypse’s connection to Wolverine and the Hulk, the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants, and we’ll answer the question “is the cartoon Apocalypse better than the movie Apocalypse?” This episode covers the Season 1 episodes “The Cure” and “Come The Apocalypse” Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Rob and Will take a deep-dive into the smash-hit Marvel animated series X-Men 97 and ask the question - is this the greatest X-Men project of all time? Should the MCU learn lessons from this cartoon show?! We take you behind the scenes on the making of this series, how and why a revival of the classic X-Men cartoon from the 90’s was needed, and what this series does BETTER than the X-Men movies! We’ll explore the history and trivia behind Magneto leading the X-Men, the relationship between Rogue and Gambit, just how overlooked Cyclops has been as a character and leader, the Sinister story of Jean Grey and her clone The Goblin Queen, the origins of Morph, Storm, Forge, Mojo, Jubilee, Bastion, and so much more! In part four we explore the episodes; "Tolerance Is Extinction Part One” "Tolerance Is Extinction Part Two” "Tolerance Is Extinction Part Three” Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Rob and Will take a deep-dive into the smash-hit Marvel animated series X-Men 97 and ask the question - is this the greatest X-Men project of all time? Should the MCU learn lessons from this cartoon show?! We take you behind the scenes on the making of this series, how and why a revival of the classic X-Men cartoon from the 90’s was needed, and what this series does BETTER than the X-Men movies! We’ll explore the history and trivia behind Magneto leading the X-Men, the relationship between Rogue and Gambit, just how overlooked Cyclops has been as a character and leader, the Sinister story of Jean Grey and her clone The Goblin Queen, the origins of Morph, Storm, Forge, Mojo, Jubilee, Bastion, and so much more! In part three we explore the episodes; "Remember It" "Lifedeath – Part 2" "Bright Eyes" Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Rob and Will take a deep-dive into the smash-hit Marvel animated series X-Men 97 and ask the question - is this the greatest X-Men project of all time? Should the MCU learn lessons from this cartoon show?! We take you behind the scenes on the making of this series, how and why a revival of the classic X-Men cartoon from the 90’s was needed, and what this series does BETTER than the X-Men movies! We’ll explore the history and trivia behind Magneto leading the X-Men, the relationship between Rogue and Gambit, just how overlooked Cyclops has been as a character and leader, the Sinister story of Jean Grey and her clone The Goblin Queen, the origins of Morph, Storm, Forge, Mojo, Jubilee, Bastion, and so much more! In part two we explore the episodes; To Me, My X-Men Mutant Liberation Begins Fire Made Flesh Motendo / Lifedeath – Part 1 Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Rob and Will take a deep-dive into the smash-hit Marvel animated series X-Men 97 and ask the question - is this the greatest X-Men project of all time? Should the MCU learn lessons from this cartoon show?! We take you behind the scenes on the making of this series, how and why a revival of the classic X-Men cartoon from the 90’s was needed, and what this series does BETTER than the X-Men movies! We’ll explore the history and trivia behind Magneto leading the X-Men, the relationship between Rogue and Gambit, just how overlooked Cyclops has been as a character and leader, the Sinister story of Jean Grey and her clone The Goblin Queen, the origins of Morph, Storm, Forge, Mojo, Jubilee, Bastion, and so much more! In part one we explore the history of the original X-Men Animated Series from the 90’s, and the story behind how and why Marvel have returned to this animated universe so many years later! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th anniversary we’re turning the whole month of April over to the X-Men’s greatest villain - Apocalypse! Apocalypse April continues with our MASSIVE scene-by-scene deep-dive into X-Men: Apocalypse - the most controversial X-Men movie of all time! We'll examine all the problems and faults with this movie, the time-jump and continuity issues that hold it back, as well as all the scenes it does really well. And we explore tons of Marvel history and trivia on the origins of Apocalypse and his powers, and his connection to other Marvel villains! We’ll find out just how powerful Apocalypse really is, dive into the twisted history of Psylocke, expose Marvel’s first mutants, the tragedy of Magneto, and bring you the secrets of THE PUNCH DIMENSION! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Our journey through the Infinity Saga started in 2020 and finally came to its conclusion in August 2024 with our 6 hour deep-dive into Avengers Endgame. The longest edition we’ve ever done, our first 3 parter, and in the words of listener Phoenix Phil “MVM simply operating several leagues beyond other podcasts.” Joins Rob and Will as they explore the production history, the comic book origins of Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, and then our scene-by-scene deep-dive into the movie, packed with tons of Marvel history and trivia. Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Our journey through the Infinity Saga started in 2020 and finally came to its conclusion in August 2024 with our 6 hour deep-dive into Avengers Endgame. The longest edition we’ve ever done, our first 3 parter, and in the words of listener Phoenix Phil “MVM simply operating several leagues beyond other podcasts.” Joins Rob and Will as they explore the production history, the comic book origins of Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, and then our scene-by-scene deep-dive into the movie, packed with tons of Marvel history and trivia. Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’re releasing The Year 5 Top 5! Our journey through the Infinity Saga started in 2020 and finally came to its conclusion in August 2024 with our 6 hour deep-dive into Avengers Endgame. The longest edition we’ve ever done, our first 3 parter, and in the words of listener Phoenix Phil “MVM simply operating several leagues beyond other podcasts.” Joins Rob and Will as they explore the production history, the comic book origins of Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, and then our scene-by-scene deep-dive into the movie, packed with tons of Marvel history and trivia. Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th anniversary we’re turning the whole month of April over to the X-Men’s greatest villain - Apocalypse! In Part One, we kick off Apocalypse April with a deep-dive into the backstory behind the creation of one of Marvel's greatest villains! We'll bring you the history of X-Factor, how Apocalypse was nearly a lame Daredevil villain, and the wild changes that turned En Sabah Nur into arguably the most powerful Marvel villain of all time! Plus, we'll take your behind-the-scenes on the controversial production of the 2016 X-Men: Apocalypse movie, so that you're ready for next week's deep-dive! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate our 5th Anniversary we asked listeners to vote for the five best episodes we’ve done in the last five years, so throughout April we’ll be releasing The Year 5 Top 5! We’re starting out with our deep-dive into George Lucas’s Howard The Duck, a massive Marvel bomb at the box office! Before Spider-Man, before the X-Men, before the MCU, there was only Howard - the first ever Marvel movie! We’ll guide you through the bizarre production history of this super kitsch 80’s movie to find out what went so wrong! We’ll also explore the history of Marvel's most subversive character of all time, the crazy Howard The Duck! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we look at 2024’s Kraven The Hunter movie, and what turned out to be the final film for the Sony Spider-Man Universe! Rob and Will explore what went so wrong with Sony’s Spider-Man franchise and WHY this is the end of the SSU! We’ll guide you through the comic book history of Kraven, his intense relationship with Spider-Man, Kraven’s Last Hunt, and why he’s a character that’s better off dead! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this movie, and then we’ll deliver our scene-by-scene deep-dive into the movie itself to find out what this movie got wrong and why Russel Crowe would make a much better Kraven The Hunter! Plus, we’ve got tons of history and trivia on Spider-Man, voodoo jungle powers, Kraven, the Chameleon, the Rhino, the Foreigner, and so much more! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we look at 2024’s Kraven The Hunter movie, and what turned out to be the final film for the Sony Spider-Man Universe! Rob and Will explore what went so wrong with Sony’s Spider-Man franchise and WHY this is the end of the SSU! We’ll guide you through the comic book history of Kraven, his intense relationship with Spider-Man, Kraven’s Last Hunt, and why he’s a character that’s better off dead! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this movie, and then we’ll deliver our scene-by-scene deep-dive into the movie itself to find out what this movie got wrong and why Russel Crowe would make a much better Kraven The Hunter! Plus, we’ve got tons of history and trivia on Spider-Man, voodoo jungle powers, Kraven, the Chameleon, the Rhino, the Foreigner, and so much more! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

The Ultraverse is a forgotten corner of the Marvel Universe, packed with hidden superheroes from the 90s! Forget about Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine and The Avengers, it’s time to learn about Prime, Prototype, Nightman and The Ultraforce! Before the MCU, Hollywood went through a massive comic book boom in the early 90’s, as comics like The Mask, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and The Crow became big hits! Marvel Comics bought out one of their competitors, Malibu Comics, and merged their Ultraverse into the Marvel Universe! This launched Ultraforce the animated series, a video game and even a line of action figures! But it wasn’t long before Marvel cancelled Ultraforce and all the other Ultra-Heroes, making sure they’d never be seen ever again! Who were Ultraforce? Why did Marvel buy Malibu Comics only to shut them down? And why has Marvel tried to forget they ever existed? Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

MVM heads back to 1989 to deep-dive into The Trial Of The Incredible Hulk - the first ever Daredevil and Kingpin movie! The first Stan Lee cameo! The first Daredevil corridor fight! This movie has got it all! Join Rob and Will as they uncover the secrets of Marvel’s FIRST shared universe, a full 20 years before the MCU began! We find out about Marvel using the Hulk TV movies of the 80’s to launch characters like Thor, Daredevil, Kingpin, She-Hulk and even Iron Man onto screens for the very first time! We’ll explore the comic book histories of both Daredevil and the Hulk, and how both characters struggled to find popularity for decades! We’ll also bring you comic book history and trivia like how Daredevil’s powers work, the history of the Kingpin, the comic book writer that revolutionised Matt Murdock and Wilson Fisk, and what happened the TWO TIMES that the Incredible Hulk was put on trial! Plus, we’ll deep-dive into this bizarre TV movie to bring you scene-by-scene reactions and trivia! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

MVM heads back to 1989 to deep-dive into The Trial Of The Incredible Hulk - the first ever Daredevil and Kingpin movie! The first Stan Lee cameo! The first Daredevil corridor fight! This movie has got it all! Join Rob and Will as they uncover the secrets of Marvel’s FIRST shared universe, a full 20 years before the MCU began! We find out about Marvel using the Hulk TV movies of the 80’s to launch characters like Thor, Daredevil, Kingpin, She-Hulk and even Iron Man onto screens for the very first time! We’ll explore the comic book histories of both Daredevil and the Hulk, and how both characters struggled to find popularity for decades! We’ll also bring you comic book history and trivia like how Daredevil’s powers work, the history of the Kingpin, the comic book writer that revolutionised Matt Murdock and Wilson Fisk, and what happened the TWO TIMES that the Incredible Hulk was put on trial! Plus, we’ll deep-dive into this bizarre TV movie to bring you scene-by-scene reactions and trivia! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we head back into the archives to bring you the story of how Marvel Comics created Thor and Loki in 1962! Containing all the behind-the-scenes secrets of the Marvel Asgardians, like; how Jack Kirby had created TWO different versions of Thor YEARS before the Marvel Universe began! How Thor is heavily inspired by one of the biggest superheroes of the Golden Age, Captain Marvel! The complicated secret identity of Thor - who is Dr Donald Blake?! And how Thor went from being a copycat Superman story, to a wild tale of Norse mythology, cosmic Shakespearean drama, and Asgardian politics! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

With Captain America Brave New World bringing the Red Hulk to cinemas all over the world, we take a deep-dive into the history of the RULK and explore his first-ever appearance in the series Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes! We’ll explore the creation and history of the Red Hulk, and the mystery surrounding his real identity! We’ll find out just how powerful the Red Hulk truly is, as we explore his fights with the Green Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, the Silver Surfer and Galactus himself! Then we’ll take you through the 3 episode arc in Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes from 2012 that marks the first ever on-screen appearance of the Red Hulk! 3 episodes that also feature a really cool Avengers story with Sam Wilson, the Black Panther, and the Red Skull! Plus, we’ll let Rob answer the question - is the Red Hulk the WORST Marvel character ever made? Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com

With Captain America Brave New World bringing the Red Hulk to cinemas all over the world, we take a deep-dive into the history of the RULK and explore his first-ever appearance in the series Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes! We’ll explore the creation and history of the Red Hulk, and the mystery surrounding his real identity! We’ll find out just how powerful the Red Hulk truly is, as we explore his fights with the Green Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, the Silver Surfer and Galactus himself! Then we’ll take you through the 3 episode arc in Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes from 2012 that marks the first ever on-screen appearance of the Red Hulk! 3 episodes that also feature a really cool Avengers story with Sam Wilson, the Black Panther, and the Red Skull! Plus, we’ll let Rob answer the question - is the Red Hulk the WORST Marvel character ever made? Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/marvelversusmarvel https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we take you behind the scenes on the Madame Web movie and explore Sony’s FAILED Marvel Universe! We’ll ask all the big questions like; why is this Z-list Spider-Man character getting her own movie? Why ISN’T this a Spider-Woman film? And just how badly did this movie BOMB at the box office?! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the disastrous production and marketing of Madame Web, the press tour from hell, and whether stars like Sydney Sweeney and Dakota Johnson regret being in this lacklustre Marvel bomb! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

With the MCU’s Captain America Brave New World in cinemas, we head back to 1990 to look at the first-ever Captain America cinematic movie. How and why did this Marvel movie become a complete low budget disaster? We’ll take you behind-the-scenes on how Cannon Films got into the Marvel movie business, how JD Salinger’s son was cast as Steve Rogers, and how the whole production lost its entire six million dollar budget right before filming! It’s a crazy story of a film being re-written on the fly, cameras running out of film, and the studio hating the finished movie so much they re-edited the entire thing … and made it worse! We’ll also explore Captain America in the 1980’s to uncover perhaps the most interesting and political time in the history of the character. And we’ll deep-dive the movie scene-by-scene as only MVM can! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

With the MCU’s Captain America Brave New World in cinemas, we head back to 1990 to look at the first-ever Captain America cinematic movie. How and why did this Marvel movie become a complete low budget disaster? We’ll take you behind-the-scenes on how Cannon Films got into the Marvel movie business, how JD Salinger’s son was cast as Steve Rogers, and how the whole production lost its entire six million dollar budget right before filming! It’s a crazy story of a film being re-written on the fly, cameras running out of film, and the studio hating the finished movie so much they re-edited the entire thing … and made it worse! We’ll also explore Captain America in the 1980’s to uncover perhaps the most interesting and political time in the history of the character. And we’ll deep-dive the movie scene-by-scene as only MVM can! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

With Captain America: Brave New World in cinemas today, we’re giving you a glimpse at all the different Super (and not so super) Soldiers who have replaced Steve Rogers over the years! Before Sam Wilson carried the shield, there was Jeffrey Mace AKA The Patriot, William Naslund AKA The Spirit of 76, William Burnside AKA The Grand Director, John Walker AKA The US Agent, Isaiah Bradley AKA The Black Captain America! This is our first-ever bonus episode from 5 years ago, back when we knew NOTHING about making podcasts! We promise we’ve gotten better! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

Join us for a deep-dive into the history of Captain Marvel! We’ll explore the most popular superhero of the Golden Age, the ORIGINAL Captain Marvel who uttered the magic word “SHAZAM!” We’ll uncover the court cases that ended the character, Marvel Comics creating their own Captain Marvel, a strange robotic Captain Marvel, DC Comics getting into the Captain Marvel race, and how the whole event led to the creation of Carol Danvers! It’s a crazy trip through the history of superheroes, from Fawcett Comics, to MF Enterprises, to Marvel and DC Comics! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

The new trailer for Fantastic Four: First Steps has got everyone talking about the MCU again! Rob and Will weigh in on how good the trailer looks, what it makes us think about the upcoming movie, and whether we feel excited or let down! We’ll discuss what this movie needs to go to get the heart of the Marvel characters right, how important Ben Grimm is to the big picture and whether this movie is going to go down the same path as the 2015 Fantastic Four TRAVESTY! Plus we’ll explore the style, the costume, HERBIE, Galactus, the end of the world, and who exactly is John Malkovich playing? Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we swing back to the 1970’s for a deep-dive into a forgotten corner of the Marvel Universe - the Japanese Spider-Man! It's a wild tale of how Marvel gave the character rights to a successful Japanese TV and Movie company, who proceeded to transform Spider-Man into a much more Japanese pop culture character! Time to get a motorbike, a flying car, a spaceship, tons of aliens, a giant Transformer robot, and a thirst for REVENGE! This is a Spider-Man unlike ANYTHING we’ve seen in the Marvel Comics or the MCU! And if we’re gonna chart the full history of Marvel, we’ve got to spend some time on the Japanese Spider-Man of 1978! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we swing back to the 1970’s for a deep-dive into a forgotten corner of the Marvel Universe - the Japanese Spider-Man! It's a wild tale of how Marvel gave the character rights to a successful Japanese TV and Movie company, who proceeded to transform Spider-Man into a much more Japanese pop culture character! Time to get a motorbike, a flying car, a spaceship, tons of aliens, a giant Transformer robot, and a thirst for REVENGE! This is a Spider-Man unlike ANYTHING we’ve seen in the Marvel Comics or the MCU! And if we’re gonna chart the full history of Marvel, we’ve got to spend some time on the Japanese Spider-Man of 1978! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

With everyone gearing up for Daredevil: Born Again, we head into the archives to take you behind the scenes on the making of the 2015 Daredevil TV show! How exactly did Marvel Studios and Disney find themselves working with Netflix and making a violent and complex crime drama? The 2015 series is definitely the darkest Marvel project of all time, and one of the best superhero adaptations ever made! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

As we prepare for a season of "passing the torch" in the MCU, we uncover a hidden corner of the Marvel Universe and examine Next Avengers: Heroes Of Tomorrow - an animated movie from 2008 in which the children of the Avengers battle a world-conquering Ultron! We'll take you behind the scenes to uncover the unique direct-to-DVD deal that produced 8 Marvel movies as the MCU was in its very early stages! Plus we look at the influential Marvel Comics that centred around the children of the Avengers! We’ll explore the children of the Avengers, the insane power of Ultron, what happens when the Hulk becomes an old man, the bride of Frankenstein, Cap’s energy shields, the robot Avengers, and who exactly is spider-bitch?! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

As we prepare for a season of "passing the torch" in the MCU, we uncover a hidden corner of the Marvel Universe and examine Next Avengers: Heroes Of Tomorrow - an animated movie from 2008 in which the children of the Avengers battle a world-conquering Ultron! We'll take you behind the scenes to uncover the unique direct-to-DVD deal that produced 8 Marvel movies as the MCU was in its very early stages! Plus we look at the influential Marvel Comics that centred around the children of the Avengers! We’ll explore the children of the Avengers, the insane power of Ultron, what happens when the Hulk becomes an old man, the bride of Frankenstein, Cap’s energy shields, the robot Avengers, and who exactly is spider-bitch?! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we bring you a double-dose from the MVM archives, as we examine the birth of the DC Universe and the creation of both Superman and Batman! To understand the Marvel story we have to understand the two most popular and enduring superheroes ever created - The Man Of Steel and The Dark Knight Detective. In two of our most important episodes from the archives, we went behind-the-page on the story of how Superman and Batman were created, and how they both changed comic books, movies, and pop culture forever - paving the way for the Marvel Universe to follow! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

We kick off 2025 with a deep-dive into Logan and what might be the best Marvel movie ever made! Rob and Will explore the death of Wolverine, the Old Man Logan storyline, the birth of X-23 and tons more! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this important 2017 movie, saying an emotional farewell to Hugh Jackman, and we’ll pour through tons of X-men comic book history and trivia! We’ll investigate how Wolverine dies in the comics, the birth and origins of X-23, the ruthless Donald Pierce and his Reavers, as well as the twisted Marvel future of “Old Man Logan” which inspired this movie! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

We kick off 2025 with a deep-dive into Logan and what might be the best Marvel movie ever made! Rob and Will explore the death of Wolverine, the Old Man Logan storyline, the birth of X-23 and tons more! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this important 2017 movie, saying an emotional farewell to Hugh Jackman, and we’ll pour through tons of X-men comic book history and trivia! We’ll investigate how Wolverine dies in the comics, the birth and origins of X-23, the ruthless Donald Pierce and his Reavers, as well as the twisted Marvel future of “Old Man Logan” which inspired this movie! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

A deep-dive into the HUGE Avengers story that was scheduled to be the next big MCU movie ... until it wasn't! The biggest and baddest Kang story of all time! Kang crashes into the 21st Century with his armies from the future and goes to war with the Avengers and the whole world! Can Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and their team stop the greatest General in history from conquering the earth? To celebrate the festive season we bring you one of our bonus episodes from Patreon! Every month we take a deep-dive into one of the biggest stories, events or timelines in the history of Marvel Comics - from the Avengers to the X-Men to Spider-Man! With over 100 bonus episodes on our Patreon, you can support the show and get awesome bonus episodes https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we explore a series of major Marvel movies that NEARLY happened but never did! On the heels of Avengers Kang Dynasty being cancelled, and the Gambit buzz following Wolverine & Deadpool, Rob and Will take you for a deep-dive through movie history! We uncover how close the X-Men franchise were to making a Channing Tatum Gambit movie, and what went wrong! We’ll investigate the attempts to make a Spider-Man movie in the 80’s and 90’s and how we nearly got James Cameron’s Spider-Man! We’ll uncover the truth behind Edgar Wright’s Ant-Man, the movie that predated the MCU, and how it all fell apart! We’ll also find out about the Spider-Man horror movie, the Marvel disco film, and Silver Surfer The Rock Opera! This episode is different to our regular format, but PACKED with tons of cool Marvel movie history and trivia! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

Back in the 90's Marvel Comics and the NFL teamed up to create one of the WORST superheros of all time - NFL SuperPro! A character with maybe the worst origin story of all time! To celebrate the festive season we bring you one of our bonus episodes from Patreon! Every month in "Obscure Marvel" we dig into the most ridiculous characters and craziest moments from the history of Marvel Comics. With over 100 bonus episodes on our Patreon, you can support the show and get awesome bonus episodes https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we join Spider-Man on his trip far from home, and investigate what the death of Tony Stark means in the first MCU movie post Endgame! This deep-dive explores the secrets, lies, and illusions of Mysterio, and the dozens of cons he’s pulled over the years! We also bring you tons of Marvel history and trivia on Nick Fury, the Secret War, Spider-Man’s Stealth Suits, the tragic relationship of Ned and Betty, Wolverine’s future, and Peter Parker’s secret identity! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com

This week we join Spider-Man on his trip far from home, and investigate what the death of Tony Stark means in the first MCU movie post Endgame! This deep-dive explores the secrets, lies, and illusions of Mysterio, and the dozens of cons he’s pulled over the years! We also bring you tons of Marvel history and trivia on Nick Fury, the Secret War, Spider-Man’s Stealth Suits, the tragic relationship of Ned and Betty, Wolverine’s future, and Peter Parker’s secret identity! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com

This week we head into the archives to expose the secrets of Spider-Man 2099! Miquel O’Hara became the complicated adversary to Miles Morales in Across The Spider-Verse, so join us in exploring the creation of this Marvel character from a twisted cyberpunk future! Back in the 90’s Marvel Comics wanted to create a brand new line of comic books featuring futuristic spins on their most popular superheroes - and leading the charge was a brand new Spider-Man! We’ll explore how and why Miguel is SO different from Peter Parker, and how the popularity of the character led to videos games and a potential animated series! This clip is taken from our massive episode covering Across The Spider-Verse https://open.spotify.com/episode/21oAaLcnRWmT3Dagoylit6?si=AufTvwnrRiKCooX5XTJ-hg Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

A deep-dive into the very first X-Men movie ever made, and the WEIRDEST Marvel comic of the 90s! We'll take you behind-the-scenes on how Fox Kids took the leap from X-Men The Animated Series, to making a live-action TV movie based on the X-Men - and what went wrong! We'll also explore the wild success of the X-Men comics in the 90's, Jubilee leaving the X-Men, the creation of Generation X, and their battle with Aerosmith! Then we’ll deep-dive the movie itself to pull apart the dodgy special effects, the wonky script, and the most awful Marvel villain of all time! Plus we’ll also bring you TONS of X-Men trivia and history about Banshee, Jubilee, Emma Frost, and weird new mutants like Skin, Mondo, Husk, Chamber, Emplate, Synch and more! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

A deep-dive into the very first X-Men movie ever made, and the WEIRDEST Marvel comic of the 90s! We'll take you behind-the-scenes on how Fox Kids took the leap from X-Men The Animated Series, to making a live-action TV movie based on the X-Men - and what went wrong! We'll also explore the wild success of the X-Men comics in the 90's, Jubilee leaving the X-Men, the creation of Generation X, and their battle with Aerosmith! Then we’ll deep-dive the movie itself to pull apart the dodgy special effects, the wonky script, and the most awful Marvel villain of all time! Plus we’ll also bring you TONS of X-Men trivia and history about Banshee, Jubilee, Emma Frost, and weird new mutants like Skin, Mondo, Husk, Chamber, Emplate, Synch and more! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

Rob and Will take a deep-dive into Marvel’s forgotten 1998 Silver Surfer animated series! A TV show that brought to life Galactus, Thanos, Drax, Gamora, Nova, The Kree and the Skrulls way before the MCU! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this incredible show and try to uncover the reasons why it was suddenly cancelled out of the blue! We’ll take you behind the page on the creation of Galactus and the Silver Surfer, their origins with the Fantastic Four, why they’re so important to the history of Marvel Comics, and how the Surfer became influential in pop culture! Plus we’ll dive into tons of history and trivia about Cosmic Marvel! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

Rob and Will take a deep-dive into Marvel’s forgotten 1998 Silver Surfer animated series! A TV show that brought to life Galactus, Thanos, Drax, Gamora, Nova, The Kree and the Skrulls way before the MCU! We’ll take you behind the scenes on the making of this incredible show and try to uncover the reasons why it was suddenly cancelled out of the blue! We’ll take you behind the page on the creation of Galactus and the Silver Surfer, their origins with the Fantastic Four, why they’re so important to the history of Marvel Comics, and how the Surfer became influential in pop culture! Plus we’ll dive into tons of history and trivia about Cosmic Marvel! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we take you behind the page to explore the true life story of creating Captain America! Before Spider-Man, Iron Man, and the Avengers, and back before the MCU was even a possibility! We’ll dive into WWII and explore a time before America joined the war, and how controversial it was to have an Anti-Nazi superhero! We’ll look at the controversy that surrounded Cap’s first appearance, punching Hiter in the face, how the American Nazis retaliated! We’ll examine the patriotic superhero that Marvel Comics completely RIPPED OFF to bring Cap to life, and the litany of superheroes that followed in Cap’s wake! We’ll also look at how quickly Captain America’s popularity faded, and how Marvel had to completely change the comic book just to try and survive being cancelled! This episode is taken from our full-length show exploring Captain America: The First Avenger, which you can listen to here https://open.spotify.com/episode/5FA21uN2hZ4elARSzBzJdr?si=TIxQN5BQQECxr4E1fb_Bpw Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

This week we take you behind the scenes on the making of the 2015 Fantastic Four movie - easily Marvel’s BIGGEST disaster! We’ll pick apart the financial details, the budget and the box-office, and compare this movie to the other Fantastic Four movies Fox made! We’ll dive into the controversial and troubled casting, the disputes between the writer and director, and the problems between the director and the movie studio! We’ll explore how this movie NEARLY joined another Marvel Cinematic Universe, the problems with Dr Doom, and we’ll get to the bottom of how this movie BOMBED at the box office and sits on a terrible 9% on Rotten Tomatoes! And what does this mean for the MCU Fantastic Four movie coming in 2025? Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate Halloween we dive into all the blood and gore of Blade 2, and examine the crazy history of Marvel’s vampires! In this episode Rob and Will take an extended look at the making of Blade 1 and 2, the rocky road to bringing the character to life on the screen, and how there’d be no MCU without it! We’ll explore the pop culture phenomenon that was vampire in the 1990s, and the movies and TV shows that paved the way for Blade! We’ll also examine the history of vampires in comic books - from book burnings to Senate Hearings to vampires being completely BANNED in comic books for nearly 20 years! And we’ll deep-dive Blade 2 scene-by-scene to find out exactly how Guillermo del Toro brought us the bloodiest and goriest Marvel movie of all time! Packed with tons of Marvel history and trivia for your Spooktober listening! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate Halloween we dive into all the blood and gore of Blade 2, and examine the crazy history of Marvel’s vampires! In this episode Rob and Will take an extended look at the making of Blade 1 and 2, the rocky road to bringing the character to life on the screen, and how there’d be no MCU without it! We’ll explore the pop culture phenomenon that was vampire in the 1990s, and the movies and TV shows that paved the way for Blade! We’ll also examine the history of vampires in comic books - from book burnings to Senate Hearings to vampires being completely BANNED in comic books for nearly 20 years! And we’ll deep-dive Blade 2 scene-by-scene to find out exactly how Guillermo del Toro brought us the bloodiest and goriest Marvel movie of all time! Packed with tons of Marvel history and trivia for your Spooktober listening! Support the show and get awesome bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk

To celebrate the release of Venom: The Last Dance, we’ve compiled this supershow featuring our biggest Venom episodes to bring the full secret history of the character! We’ll explore Secret Wars and how Marvel created a brand new black-and-white costume for Spider-Man! We’ll uncover the fan who designed the new costume and sold the idea to Marvel! We’ll dive into the original plans for Venom, how the character was going to be a woman, the creation of Eddie Brock, his transition from villain to anti-hero, his huge popularity, and then the creation of his nemesis Carnage! A Venom supershow to dig into the history of one of Marvel’s biggest break-out characters of all time! The clips are taken from our much bigger episodes on Venom; Spider-Man 3 https://open.spotify.com/episode/6hBrrGsYgmHGnQLanA4xJ2?si=7e8a8f8c96d34469 Venom https://open.spotify.com/episode/5KThprnxcfvFwHr1YgXvYO?si=b169ad2a14cd4075 Venom: Let There Be Carnage https://open.spotify.com/episode/0YFQyPqhvlw3JtsNX6Hh1L?si=6e705677ba0a4e76 For awesome bonus episodes visit https://www.patreon.com/marvelversusmarvel [email protected] https://twitter.com/marvelversus https://twitter.com/robhalden https://robhalden.com https://will-preston.co.uk