Integrative Lawyers of the World

In this episode, we talk to Patrick about:The moment traveling in China that shifted his mindset and legal path; the moment that gave rise to the “barefoot lawyer”The harm caused by the Growth Mindset: the pursuit of unlimited growth and its negative impact on everythingAlternatives to the Growth MindsetThe importance of taking time to stop and askng “is this what I really want?” -at individual and systems levelA hybrid between for-profit and non-profit organizational structuresThe power of your mindsetImportance of finding your tribeThe “Both -And” mindsetAn “eye for an eye” belief and actions just creates a world full of blind peopleIsrael and GazaHis new life direction of surrendering into the mystery of silence and guided meditation and how this has shown him that the more you change yourself, the more your outer world changesWhat it meant for him to step out and declare himself as the barefoot lawyerWhat integrative law and being an integrative lawyer mean to himTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] audio only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://integrative-lawyers-of-the-world.simplecast.com/episodesA video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY Thank you for listening to Integrative Lawyers of the World! A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Professor Camilla Andersen is a lawyer and academic. She’s been an academic for over thirty years on 4 different continents. She has a lot of experience in international commercial law, but she has devoted the last decade of her life to change and innovation, and to relational contract theory. She is changing the face of contract law and humanizing law.In this conversation we discussed:Humanizing lawCommunication training for lawyersCo-creating with clients and other professionals --- remembering that lawyers do not know everythingHow legalese can render a contract unenforceableWays to make contracts more understandable Comic Book Contracts and her comic book contract projectExamples of comic book contractsThe many benefits of visual contractsWord of Caution against creating standardized images and icons for visual contractsRelational contract theory, perspective, and practiceHer work with Mission Australia for which comic book contract was created for kids who are sent to therapyWhat being an integrative lawyer means to her: thinking outside the box, listening to clients, accepting that lawyers do not know everything and co-creating with others.Learn more about Professor Camilla Andersen and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement Links to some of the projects discussed in our conversation: https://www.comicbookcontracts.com/our-journeyhttps://lawyersasdesigners.com/https://www.alternativecontracting.biz/ To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems: https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement(supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY Description automatically generated" /> A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we talk to Ms. Chetty about her journey as a 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫 and her pursuit of 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐞. In our conversation, we discuss:• Social Justice – what it means, how to get it, and the difference between equality on paper or on the books and equality in application and life.• The difference between equity and inclusion• Using the law as an agent of change and how she brings empathy - what a traditional law professor referred to as “that hippie business” –into her law school lectures and courses• Technology and AI in the legal profession: facing concerns and fears over AI but not wanting to get left behind• Decolonization in legal education• How integrative law at its core is language of love and a language of healing• How law can be agent of change and her advice to lawyers who want to be changemakers with a positive impact• What Integrative Law and being an integrative lawyer mean to herTo contact Neetu Chetty, email her here: [email protected] more about the Integrative Law Movement, Neetu Chetty, and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at www.integrativelaw.comTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/(Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽 👍🏿 👍 👍🏾👍🏼 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 onYouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms.Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we talk to Mr. Deoli about his legal journey, his Law and Happiness Office, and the role of lawyers in society. He believes that legal profession is a thread that connects and holds all of society together. In our conversation, we discuss:His legal journey including a moment as a law student when he felt that there was something frustrating with the legal systemHow he overcame his shyness to fulfill his mission of connecting with othersWhen he first realized as a kid that the was part of a marginalized group and how this propelled him to help those are marginalized in the legal systemWhat justice means and how, without equal and full access to the legal system for everyone, there cannot not be justiceHis work with the Law and Happiness OfficeHis mission to restore the positive role and image of lawyers in communities and societyWhat Integrative Law and being an integrative lawyer mean to him Learn more about Rajesh Deoli and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we talk to Dr. Rose about public procurement and empowering positive change. More specifically, Margaret covers: Why understanding and regulating public procurement is so important and why everyone, especially lawyers, need to be more aware of the public procurement practices and policies at their local level and at the global levelWhat Covid-19 and PPE procurement taught us about public procurement practices and showed us the weaknesses in these practicesWhy public procurement practices and models need assess the purpose of a good in its value calculation of goods and risk assessment Future Law Collaborative and its vision to bring legal futures from around the world together to catalyze systemic change at local and global levelsHow she wants to support lawyers around the world be effective advocates for policy reform and systemic changeHow the 4Ps: Public Private Partnerships with Purpose can create change and have a positive impactHer “what if” question to all legal professionalsWhat being an integrative lawyer means to her Learn more about Dr. Margaret Satya Rose and Future Law Collaborative: https://futurelaw.io/who-we-are/ To listen to conversations with more integrative lawyers from around the world, go to: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐮𝐬𝟓𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we talk to Ms. van der Meer about legal design thinking and why it’s important for lawyers to develop their empathy and creativity. More specifically, Susanne covers:Visual language for lawyers6 steps of legal design thinking4 things lawyers can do to implement legal design thinking in their practiceHow to develop your empathy and how to use empathy in your legal practiceHow lawyers can develop their creativity and what law firms can do to foster the creative mindset of their lawyersRethinking the lawyer’s deliverables beyond the billable the hourWhat being an integrative lawyer means to herLearn more about Susanne van der Meer and her work at: https://siftvisuals.com/To listen to conversations with more integrative lawyers from around the world, go to: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/(supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" />𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] An audio only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://integrative-lawyers-of-the-world.simplecast.com/episodes A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this conversation, we discuss:Her personal and legal journey and how being part of an international program for high school students in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and how her father’s political imprisonment and torture changed her career path from art to law --- and what led her to think “I need to understand this language of law",The creative side and art of law and how sensitive people were not encouraged in law schools and law firms,How participating as a mediator for the compensation fund changed her life and the lessons she learned from this experience,How she was introduced to collaborative law,How she is help building a collaborative community and collaborative practice in Brazil, andWhat integrative law and what being an integrative lawyer mean to her.Learn more about Olivia Fürst and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽 👍🏿 👍 👍🏾👍🏼 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Click here for a video version of this podcast. Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this conversation, we discuss:working with load shedding practices in South Africa and how this affects everyday lifehow gender discrimination pushed her into opening her own firm because, as one person told her at the time, no one would hire a female litigator and questioned “what would happen if the kids got sick” her path from litigation to mediation to collaborative lawBeing an observer at Collaborative Alliance in Minnesota started by Ron Ousky (ILOW S5, Ep.1)Insights and practical suggestions for starting something newher complications from hip surgery and how she found many gifts in this injuryher struggles with, and dream of, building a collaborative community in South Africa Learn more about Debra Segrott and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this conversation, we discuss:How she discovered collaborative law early in her legal career,Why collaborative law is aligned with her values and vision for lawyers’ role in society,Conscious Contracts® and how she uses Conscious Contracts® in premarital and marriage contracts,How Collaborative Law and Conscious Contracts® complement each other and fit within the Integrative Law Movement, andWhat being an Integrative Lawyer means to her.Learn more about the Integrative Law Movement at: www.IntegrativeLaw.com To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (Supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, SUBSCRIBE, and ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ A video recording of this podcast episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulYMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we talk to Mr. Chettiar about his legal journey and life philosophy. He sharesWhat it was like leaving one of the most prestigious law firms in Singapore to follow his inner calling,How volunteering with Mother Theresa’s Missionaries of Charity was a pivotal and profound experience in his life,The feeling he had when he first heard about Collaborative Law,The joy he felt after his first collaborative case, andWhat integrative law and being an integrative lawyer means to him.Learn more about Rajan Chettiar and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement. You can connect with Mr. Chettiar on LinkedIn or through his firm's website at: https://www.rajanchettiar.com/To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞, comment,⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/A video recording of this podcast episode is available at https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY&si=FXM3RbfK4oE80k09Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this conversation, we discuss:Jamie-Lee’s multi-cultural (Māori & European) ancestry and how this influences how she sees the worldThe Māori people and culture Her legal journey from corporate law to community law, family law, collaborative law, and integrative lawHer experience as an In-house lawyer with the Waitangi tribunal, which was set-up for Māori to assert claims that the crown is in breach of The Treaty of Waitangi/Te Tiriti o WaitangiHer work to help support children and familiesCollaborative Law in New ZealandHer dream of building a collaborative law practice group or community for lawyers with indigenous links.What being an integrative lawyer means to herLearn more about Jamie-Lee Tuuta and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement.To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞, Description automatically generated" /> ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/ Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] video version of this podcast is available on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQrwWEQpqLCVIa2qgiRjyT4 A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

In this episode, we discuss with Mr. Ousky: The collaborative process & the paradigm shift that collaborative lawyers make Helping parties of divorce look toward a brighter futureBeing an advocate and counselor versus an adversarial gladiator Trial lawyering skills that are good for and not so good for a collaborative lawyer The interconnection between collaborative law and the integrative law movementThe importance of inner work Possibilities for future lawyers and the legal systemWhat being an integrative lawyer means to himLearn more about Ron Ousky or connect with him at Ousky Yates Law Office & Collaborative AllianceClick here to support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems. (Supporters in the USA can make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/) If you appreciate the work of these legal change makers and want to help𝐈𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐩 𝐮𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐮𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬, 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞:𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 👍🏽👍🏿👍 👍🏾👍🏼 𝐬𝐮𝐛𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞 Description automatically generated" /> 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝟓 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐬 ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐⭐ on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found at: https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Silvina is an Argentinian Lawyer, based in Buenos Aires. She is the mom of two boys. She has been working as a corporate counsel for the last 10 years in the health industry and she is a Co-founder of La Organización Latinoamericana de Derecho Colaborativo which joins lawyers all around Latin America to spread the word about the benefits of collaborative practice. She is also passionate about human relationships and has been working and developing new ways of advocating to encourage lawyers to change their way of working. In this episode, Silvina shares her legal journey from litigator to collaboratively-trained corporate counsel. We discussed:How being a Mom taught her new things and skills, like compassion, that she didn’t know she had and that makes her a better lawyerThe period when she wanted to quit the practice of law and what she did,The importance of taking a pause, doing something different, and being your true selfGetting rejected (many times) before finding a place to work that valued her The power of our interpersonal connections and cups of coffee in spreading an idea and building something newThe collaborative law practice and mindsetOLADC: la Organización Latinoamericana de Derecho ColaborativoHow she uses her collaborative training and mindset in her corporate law practiceWhat being an integrative lawyer means to her.Silvina Matisic Contact Info:Email: [email protected] Profile: linkedin.com/in/silvina-matisic-ba942162OLADC: la Organización Latinoamericana de Derecho Colaborativo:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100081576875371LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13977872/To support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLawMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] watch-only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://youtu.be/dSavULU726c A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Myrna McCallum is a true changemaker and a leading champion of trauma-informed lawyering. She is the host of “The Trauma-Informed Lawyer" Podcast and she acts as a subject matter expert and consultant on trauma-informed policy. Myrna also offers training courses on trauma-informed engagement for leaders, policy makers, police officers, lawyers and judges. She has also become a highly sought after public speaker. Myrna received the 2020 Federal Department of Justice Excellence in Legal Practice and Victim Support Award, the 2022 Canadian Bar Association BC Aboriginal Lawyer’s Forum Special Contributor Award and the 2022 Saskatchewan Ombudsman Game Changer Award. Myrna has co-edied two publications:Canadian Law, Indigenous Laws and Critical Perspectives published by CanLII as a Criminal Law Open Access eBook and Trauma-Informed Law: a Primer for Lawyer Resilience and Healing published by the American Bar Association.She lives in North Vancouver, B.C., Canada.In this episode, we discuss what being a trauma-informed lawyer is and why being trauma-informed is an essential component for lawyer competency. In this conversation, we discuss:Myrna’s background and legal journeyHer Métis heritage and how Métis cultureBeing a Trauma-Informed LawyerTrauma in the practice of law and the legal systemGroup traumaVicarious trauma and vicarious resilienceThe hallmarks of trauma-informed lawyeringThe Indigenous Medicine Wheel and living a holistic and balanced lifeHow cultural humility, active listening, and inner work are essential for lawyer competency but are not taught in law schoolThe principles of being trauma-informed have broad application and relevance in any profession and sectorWhat being an integrative lawyer means to herIf you are in practice that manages fears and stress, then being trauma-informed and this ILOW episode with Myrna McCullum are for you. You can listen to Myrna’s The Trauma-Informed Lawyer podcast here:https://www.myrnamccallum.co/podcastMyrna McCallum Contact Info:Email: [email protected]: https://www.myrnamccallum.co/Her Podcast: The Trauma-Informed Lawyer - https://www.myrnamccallum.co/podcastTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financ...(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ )If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLawMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] watch-only recording of this podcast episode is available at https://youtu.be/yhIpvq9jzZE A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Our guest this episode is Raphael Chsubo Masesa. He is a lecturer at the IIE Varsity College in Cape Town, South Africa and a Board Member for Ubuntuworks Project. He teaches Indigenous law and Integrative law among other law courses. He teaches indigenous law through oral tradition, storytelling, traditional music, poetry and praise on social matters. He has taught more than 15 years at the University of the Western Cape and the IIE Varsity College.In our conversation, we discuss:His integrative law and indigenous law classes;How indigenous law is not a practice; it’s his life;The meaning of his name and having to take on a Christian/Western name;St. Francis of Assisi and his connection to nature and earth;Ubuntu and how it can be activated at the individual and collective level;How is working to take integrative law to ZambiaThe Integrative Law RetreatFor more information and to contact Ralphael Chsubo Masesa:Email: [email protected] support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financ...(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ )If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLawMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] watch-only recording of this podcast episode is available at: https://youtu.be/h4ZzKBALwOc A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Our guest in this episode is Anirudh Rastogi of India so interesting. Anirudh is the founder and managing partner of Ikigai Law which serves technology and innovation. He and Ikigai Law help innovators navigate the uncertain legal waters where technology sails faster than laws and regulations. He also has an innovative approach to contracts, which he discussed in his TEDx Talk, Reimagining Contracts to Empower Millions. In our conversation, we discussed technology and innovation, visual contracts, and more.Conversation Highlights:Law and technologyHow to manage legal and regulatory uncertainty Balancing our fear of the consequences (known and unknown) with the benefits of technology. How over-regulation can limit technology and innovationHow technology and innovation develop the solutions to their own problems – if allowed to developHow regulation is sometimes welcomed and can-- if in the right balance –encourage innovation. Examples of innovation and emerging technologiesVisual Contracts Contract Design versus Contract DraftingIn designing a contract, lawyers should ask – how can I create this in such a way that it would DELIGHT the partiesDifferent ways to design contracts including visual contracts and comic contractsContracts can level the bargaining power of the parties, empower each party, and establish a true meeting of the mindsWhat being an integrative lawyer means to him For more information and to contact Anirudh:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/anirudhrastogiIkigai Law Website: https://www.ikigailaw.com/#acceptLicenseEmail: [email protected] support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financ...(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ )If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLawMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] watch-only recording of this podcast episode is available at: https://youtu.be/YFWxPlePOjQ A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Marguerite Picard is a facilitator and peacemaker, accredited specialist family lawyer, mediator, arbitrator, collaborative practitioner, and trainer. She has three innovative businesses: MELCA (Melbourne Collaborative Alliance), Smart Separation, and Support for Lawyers. Her primary interest is in system change away from adversarial thinking to collaborative and interdisciplinary approaches.In this conversation, we discussed:Her journey from criminal lawyer and litigator to integrative and collaborative lawyerMELCA and its interdisciplinary approach to helping families move through divorceSmart Separation and the right and wrong moves to make when considering a marital separationSupport for Lawyers and the well-being and mental health issues faced by many lawyersThe “why” driving her businessesHow an individual’s healing flows from individuals to their clients, community, and societyHow the adversarial approach leaked into different segments of society from courtrooms to board rooms to newsrooms and her hope that an integrative and collaborative will replace that adversarial approachWhat being an integrative lawyer means to herFor more information and to contact Marguerite:[email protected] (Melbourne Collaborative Alliancewww.melca.com.auSmart Separationwww.smartseparation.com.auSupport for Lawyerswww.supportforlawyers.comTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLaw Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] this episode on youtube at: https://youtu.be/Dq6VfRTTxqE A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Femke Wijdekop joins us from The Netherlands. At one point, she felt like the practice of law was not right for her. So, she quit it and worked in a bookstore. But now she is a legal counsel and content manager for Stop Ecocide NL and a member of the Environmental Restorative Justice Working Group. She is fueled by love – for humanity, for nature, for earth. In our conversation, Femke said something that really resonated with me. She explained that she focuses on the regenerative environmental work and practices being done because by focusing on them we are giving more life and more power to them, which then creates more regenerative practices and work. We talked about this and so much more including: Her Journey from leaving the law to living with purpose with the lawEarth Law and EcocideSuccesses with Earth Law and the Stop Ecocide movementHer Ted Talk, How Law Can Save the Earth Challenges for Earth Law and the environmentThe interconnection between Restorative Justice and Earth LawIntegrative Law and what being an integrative lawyer means to her.For more information and to contact Femke:https://earthrestorativejustice.org/Learn more about Femke and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movement/# FemkeWijdekopTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems go to https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement(supporters in the USA are able to make tax-deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/ ) If you appreciate the work of these legal changemakers and want to help us continue to share more stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLaw Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Jens Magers is corporate lawyer in Germany who specializes in sustainable finance and investment and sustainable corporate governance. He works with the firm Rittershaus and founded its Sustainable and Investment Team. He is also a lecturer on sustainability and corporate governance at one of the leading business schools in Germany. He regularly publishes articles on corporate and sustainability matters. In our conversation we discuss:Sustainable investment and financeSocial impact investingHow he created a new practice team for his firmHow his firm incorporated sustainability in its operations and policies and now teaches other law firms on how to do the sameThe importance of self-development work and practice for your personal and professional lifeWhat being an integrative lawyer means to himFor more information on Jens Magers:https://rittershaus.net/en/rechtsanwaelte/jens-magers.htmlTo support the Integrative Law Movement and create positive change in our legal system go to: https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement/ (supporters in the USA are able to make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/) If you appreciate the work of these legal change makers and want to help continue to share more stories, please: like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLaw⭐ 𝗟𝗜𝗞𝗘⭐ 𝗦𝗨𝗕𝗦𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗕𝗘⭐ 𝗖𝗢𝗠𝗠𝗘𝗡𝗧⭐ 𝗦𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗘⭐ 𝟱-𝗦𝗧𝗔𝗥 𝗥𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗚Music for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] learn more about Integrative Law and integrative Lawyers of the World:www.integrativelaw.com A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY  

Syed Akbar Hussain is from Pakistan. He is founder of The ADR Initiative and established an accredited mediation training program for law students in Pakistan. He is an ACC mediator, arbitrator, and negotiator in the US, China, and Singapore as well as a World Bank Local Expert and Advocate in the High Courts in Pakistan. 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗴𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 – 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝘆 𝘁𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮 𝗼𝗿 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘄𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸, 𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗽 𝗼𝘂𝘁, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗱 𝗶𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗱. As he said in our conversation: “You can do more with all kinds of people to make all kinds of things possible that you never thought were.” In our conversation, we discuss: 👉 How and why he started ADR in Pakistan, including an accredited mediation training👉 How Covid forced him to stop and slow down – and why he is grateful for that👉 Finding and living his vision for his legal career with innovation and creativity👉 AI and ADR👉 Triggers and conflict of individuals and humanity as a whole👉 What being an Integrative Lawyer means to him and, more!𝗙𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁 Syed Akbar Hussain Email address: [email protected] firm: sazhconsulting.comADR Initiative: theadrinitiative.com Learn more about Syed Akbar Hussain and our other featured Integrative Lawyers of the World at https://www.integrativelaw.com/celebrating-and-showcasing-the-global-integrative-law-movementTo support the Integrative Law Movement and effect positive change in our legal systems, go to :https://www.integrativelaw.com/financial-support-for-the-movement(supporters in the USA can make tax deductible donations thanks to our fiscal sponsor The Renaissance Lawyer Society https://renaissancelawyer.org/)If you appreciate the work of these legal change makers and want to help us continue to share their stories, please like, subscribe, and rate us 5 stars on YouTube, Google, Spotify, iTunes, and your favorite podcast platforms. 👍 LIKE🅂🅄🄱🅂🄲🅁🄸🄱🄴⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5-Star Rating Links to these sites and our social media pages can be found on our LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/IntegrativeLawMusic for this podcast was created by Toby Leach. He may be contacted at: [email protected] A video version of this episode is available on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7R-_wylJ2YQ-uLUPzRJ61bXgRxvGLulY