Food Safety Talk

The show starts with a discussion about importance of being on time and time management, and then quickly moves to a discussion of recent and future podcast appearances by Don and Ben. They quickly dive into actual food safety, starting with the discussion about the Food Code and the risks posed by an unenclosed outdoor bar. This is followed by further Food Code discussions related to the importance (or lack thereof) of wearing a head covering if you're bald, and Food Code definitions (or lack thereof) for 'clean' and 'balut'. Listener feedback leads into a discussion of Food Code Annex 3 and the scientific basis of the Food Code. This leads to a discussion of the importance of actually reading the references that you're citing. The guys discuss the comfy cow ice cream recall, and the importance of clear communication with customers. Ben talks about his experience cooking blue apron, and there is further discussion about meal kits safety, specifically on cooking directions. The guys get heated up on the topic of sponge microbiology, which leads to a discussion of junk science on water bottle germs, and "Water Kefir", whatever that might be. The show wraps up with a quick mention of a recent CNN article, and the microbiology of blowing out candles on a birthday cake. * [What Is the Oxford Comma and Why Do People Care So Much About It?](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/) * [National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id296929739) * [Carolina Eagles Hockey](http://www.carolinaeagleshockey.com/) * [conference call bingo - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=conference+call+bingo&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCv5z7_czVAhVH4YMKHeIxCVQQsAQILg&biw=1667&bih=997) * [My Food Job Rocks!](http://myfoodjobrocks.com/episodes/) * [Food Safety Magazine podcast](http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/podcast/) * [StoryCorps – Stories from people of all backgrounds and beliefs](https://storycorps.org/) * [Food Safety Talk 1: Frampton Comes Alive — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2011/8/28/food-safety-talk-1-frampton-comes-alive.html) * [Food Safety Talk 0: StoryCorps] (****) * [6th Anniversary: Traditional Gift Ideas and More](https://www.thenest.com/content/sixth-anniversary-traditional-gift-ideas) * [Live from the Poundstone Institute : NPR](http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510322/live-from-the-poundstone-institute) * [Gas Light Co. sues city of Portsmouth over outside deck](http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/20170118/gas-light-co-sues-city-of-portsmouth-over-outside-deck) * [Conference for Food Protection](http://www.foodprotect.org/) * [2013 FDA Model Food Code as pdf](https://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/UCM374510.pdf) * [Utilization of Mathematical Models To Manage Risk of Holding Cold Food without Temperature Control](http://jfoodprotection.com/doi/abs/10.4315/0362-028X.JFP-12-424?code=fopr-site&journalCode=food) * [Quantifying the effect of hand wash duration, soap use, ground beef debris, and drying methods on the removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on hands](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25836392) * [The Case of the Creeping Fox Terrier Clone](https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone) * [Bully for Brontosaurus pdf](http://www.sjgouldessays.com/content/nh_essay_summaries_content/05%20Bully%20for%20Brontosaurus.pdf) * [The Comfy Cow Recalls Pints of Ice Cream Due To Possible E. Coli Contamination and/or High Coliform Counts](https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls/ucm570565.htm) * [To Our Customers - The Comfy Cow](http://www.thecomfycow.com/comfy-cow-response/) * [Meal kits and food safety | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/meal-kits-and-food-safety/) * [Who monitors meal kit safety? | WRVO Public Media](http://wrvo.org/post/who-monitors-meal-kit-safety) * [These sponges go to 14 | barfblog](http://www.barfblog.com/2017/08/these-sponges-go-to-14/) * [Microbiome analysis and confocal microscopy of used kitchen sponges pdf](http://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-06055-9.pdf) * [Supplementary material for Sponge study](https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-017-06055-9/MediaObjects/41598_2017_6055_MOESM1_ESM.pdf) * [Water Bottle Germs Revealed 2017 from TreadmillReviews.net](http://www.treadmillreviews.net/water-bottle-germs-revealed/) * [Bacterial water quality in the personal water bottles of elementary students](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12353459) * [Water Kefir: How to Brew Water Kefir — Nourished Kitchen](http://nourishedkitchen.com/water-kefir/) * [Water Kefir Benefits & FAQs - Cultures for Health](http://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/water-kefir/water-kefir-frequently-asked-questions-faq/) * [Filthy food habits: How dirty are they? - CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health/science-di

In this first post-IAFP recording, Don and Ben talk freeze talk freeze-tolerant trichina, Blue Apron arrival temperatures, the Fonz and the challenge of a food bank recall. Chipotle (and the company's employee paid sick leave policy) make an appearance.

In this special episode recorded live at IAFP 2017, Don and Ben chat with returning guest Dr. Freeze, and new guest "Pops". They cover some of their favorite moments of the conference as well as listener feedback on meal delivery services, vacuum packaging and freezing. They discuss the chances that your food poisoning is from the last thing you ate as well as the poorly named "The 10 most contaminated foods in your fridge".

Show notes so you can follow along at home: Generation X - Wikipedia Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture - Wikipedia Chef & the Farmer — VivianHoward.com Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) — Food Safety Talk Food Safety Talk 90: What if it’s a service dragon? — Food Safety Talk Foodborne Botulism – Illinois Type A Botulism From Sauteed Onions | JAMA | The JAMA Network Norovirus cross-contamination during preparation of fresh produce. - PubMed - NCBI Peoria Gyros pdf Health Inspector’s Notebook: Have a Shawarma, Donair or Gyro kebab for lunch today The secret life of kebabs and donairs | barfblog Piles of doner kebab meat transported in ‘sweaty’ car boot Prime Suspect - Wikipedia Prime Suspect: Tennison | Masterpiece PBS Food Evolution – Narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson Stewart Parnell gets 15 minutes of fame on ‘American Greed’ | Food Safety News American Greed: American Greed, Season 11, iTunes Tampa Convention Center No, There Isn’t Poop in Your Iced Coffee Faecal bacteria ‘in ice in Costa, Starbucks and Caffe Nero’ - BBC News Closing the Door on the Fecal Coliform Assay Closing the Door on the Fecal Coliform Assay pdf The data reported doesn’t point to human poop in iced coffee | barfblog CIEH Spokespeople ‘We are bathed, as a society, in human feces’ Urban Dictionary: Mann’s assumption Outbreak of Salmonella infections linked to frozen raw breaded chicken products - Public Health Agency of Canada Rhode Island Farmers Grill Senator on Food Safety

The show begins with a discussion of Ben's recent travels. From there the discussion moves on to obligatory talk about beverages, Canadian and Philadelphia accents, Apple, and other podcasts. The food safety talk begins in earnest with the discussion about what is meant by the words "risk assessment". From there the discussion turns to "food safety programs", restaurant inspections and what customers might want to know, the humor of David Lloyd, and then back to meat safety and proper thermometer use. The show ends with The Onions humorous take on handwashing water temperature. The After Dark contains the usual nonsense including talk about music videos. * [Caldera - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera) * [Yellowstone Supervolcano Hit by a Swarm of More Than 400 Earthquakes in One Week](http://www.newsweek.com/yellowstone-supervolcano-earthquake-swarm-eruption-risk-627189) * [Definition of Dingus by Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dingus) * [Foley (filmmaking) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking)) * [pamplemousse - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pamplemousse) * [LaCroix Flavors of Sparkling Water, Ranked From Worst to Best - Thrillist](https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/la-croix-flavors-sparkling-water) * [HBO: The Wire: Homepage](http://www.hbo.com/the-wire) * [Apple is going to let podcast creators — and advertisers — see what listeners actually like - Recode](https://www.recode.net/2017/6/10/15774936/apple-podcast-analytics-wwdc) * [Merch Save America – Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Risk Assessment of Human Listeriosis ](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/risa.12649/asset/risa12649.pdf;jsessionid=4594F13E901926E60BF68B54F6E8570A.f03t02?v=1&t=j45ym2x4&s=caa4ca3d042832cf61e99f82c32665f89d7f8173) * [Meat processed overseas, branded Australian faces ban in proposal by Federal crossbenchers](http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-06-19/mps-propose-australia-branding-ban-for-meat-processed-overseas/8631628) * [Designing a national restaurant inspection disclosure system for New Zealand. - PubMed - NCBI](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22054187) * [Professional Food Manager Practice Quiz - ProProfs Quiz](https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=professional-food-manager-practice-exam) * [About Us David Lloyd](https://www.cardiffmet.ac.uk/health/zero2five/about/Pages/David-Lloyd.aspx) * [Lebanese Raw Kibbe Recipe – Kibbeh Nayyeh](http://www.mamaslebanesekitchen.com/meats/lebanese-raw-kibbe-recipe-kibbeh-nayyeh/#sthash.CRMjLJNG.dpbs) * ['Cannibal sandwiches' sicken Wisconsin residents - NBC News](http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cannibal-sandwiches-sicken-wisconsin-residents-2D11703492) * [Meat and Poultry Dialogue - Meridian Institute](http://merid.org/MeatandPoultryDialogue) * [Summer Grilling Graphics - Fight Bac!](http://www.fightbac.org/summer-grilling-graphics/) * [160°F Is Good](https://160isgood.com/) * [Study: Hot Water Not Better For Washing Hands - The Onion - America's Finest News Source](http://www.theonion.com/americanvoices/study-hot-water-not-better-washing-hands-56173) * [The Onion - handwashing post](https://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/posts/10155512816959497) * [Van Halen - Panama (Music Video) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-NshzYK9y0) * [Taylor Swift - Shake It Off - 1989 African Hipster Version ft. Alex Boye Changing Lanes - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UuoFJZQ_k)

Don and Ben get down and dirty with shower habits, trips to Idaho and calendar best practices. They go in-depth on the science of handwashing, including temperatures and lathering styles including a creepy mechanical pigskin hand simulator. The show ends with a response to Roderick on the Line's question on keeping bacon fat on the stove and listener followup on home pasteurized eggs.

After a short recap regarding Ben's travels, and fermented food safety, the guys do a deep dive into the nacho cheese sauce linked botulism outbreak, resurfacing eventually to talk about leftovers and pop culture. * [Caddyshack - Gunga Galunga - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56VlKT0) * [The 65 Roses Story](https://www.cff.org/About-Us/About-the-Cystic-Fibrosis-Foundation/The-65-Roses-Story/) * [Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_same-sex_marriage_controversy) * [Merch Save America - Crooked Media](https://getcrookedmedia.com/merch-save-america-5496e5adc995) * [Martin, Charles Cromwell](https://qormuseum.org/soldiers-of-the-queens-own/171-2/) * [Battle Diary: From D-Day and Normandy to the Zuider Zee and VE](https://www.amazon.ca/Battle-Diary-D-Day-Normandy-Zuider/dp/155002213X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329877252&sr=1-1) * [ComBase](http://www.combase.cc/index.php/en/) * [Colorado State Fermented Foods ppt pdf](http://fyi.uwex.edu/safepreserving/files/2015/08/Fermented-Foods_November-2-2015.pdf) * [Survival of Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella enteritidis, Staphylococcus aureus, and Listeria monocytogenes in Kimchi](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15270509) * [Maybe that fermentation ain't working so well, Korea, 2012 - barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2013/06/maybe-that-fermentation-aint-working-so-well-1642-sickened-outbreak-of-e-coli-o169-in-schoolchildren-associated-with-consumption-of-kimchi-korea-2012/) * [Gehls Cheese Sauce Possibly Linked to Valley Oak Food and Fuel Gas Station Nacho Botulism Outbreak](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/foodborne-illness-outbreaks/gehls-cheese-sauce-possibly-linked-to-valley-oak-food-and-fuel-gas-station-nacho-botulism-outbreak-10-hospitalized-with-1-death/#.WSLwt1KZMUE) * [Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Gehl's Premium Nacho Cheese Sauce](https://www.amazon.com/Gehls-Premium-Nacho-Cheese-18-Ounce/product-reviews/B004PENTHI/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1) * [Amazon.com: GEHL's, Jalapeno Cheese, 80.0 oz.](https://www.amazon.com/GEHLs-Jalapeno-Cheese-80-0-Count/dp/B01NBP7GAN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8) * [Sierra Peristaltic Cheese Sauce Dispenser - 120V, 200W](https://www.webstaurantstore.com/sierra-peristaltic-cheese-sauce-dispenser-120v-200w/106CD212.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=CNezj7XUg9QCFRc8gQodV2sE5Q) * [Nacho cheese linked to gas station botulism outbreak | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2017/05/nacho-cheese-linked-to-gas-station-botulism-outbreak/) * [FRI processed cheese article](https://fri.wisc.edu/files/Briefs_File/ProcCheese_May2005_v2.pdf) * [FPT Beverage Dispensers article](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e279/d59f294da52a1fdecd2a74627bdb2bb5b477.pdf) * [Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/noronerd?lang=en) * [Gehl Foods Recalls Nacho Cheese and Chili Sauce Dispensers Due to Fire and Burn Hazards](https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2009/gehl-foods-recalls-nacho-cheese-and-chili-sauce-dispensers-due-to-fire-and-burn-hazards) * [Dispensers from Gehl Foods](https://www.gehls.com/Dispensers.htm) * [10 hospitalized with botulism tied to nacho cheese](http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/health/california-botulism-nacho-cheese/) * [Can you get food poisoning twice in a row, from the same food? | Metro News](http://www.metronews.ca/views/citizen-scientist/2017/05/18/can-you-get-food-poisoning-twice-in-a-row-.html) * [Bruce Vilanch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Vilanch)

Don and Ben talked big concerts, Flaming Lips (the band, not the anatomy) obscure Canadian bands covering Neil Young and then got into some food safety stuff like the particulars of deer antler tea, with some deer penis sprinkled in. The discussion went to the rules around home-based food businesses and how risk-based decisions are made in regulatory choices. The episode finished with some listener feedback on washing produce and mold and whether food employees at Blue Apron (and like mail-order businesses) should have local health department food handler training. COOLIO Love and Rockets (band) - Wikipedia Pet Sounds - Wikipedia Cover version - Wikipedia Enjoy Every Sandwich: The Songs of Warren Zevon - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Borrowed Tunes II: A Tribute to Neil Young - Wikipedia Day of the Dead (2016 album) - Wikipedia The Flaming Lips and Stardeath and White Dwarfs with Henry Rollins and Peaches Doing The Dark Side of the Moon - Wikipedia Watch The Flaming Lips’ Inner-Band Drama From Portlandia‘s Pickathon Episode - Stereogum Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - Wikipedia Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto - Wikipedia 10 years later: How the Mad Cow crisis changed an industry and a province (with videos) Deer-antler tea linked with botulism case in Orange County | abc7.com Deer Antler to Nourish Blood, Bone, and Joints Steve Harvey, Asian Remedies and Deer Penis – michelle in the kitchen Mailing List - New Jersey Home Bakers Bill NCDA&CS - Food & Drug Protection - Food Program AFDO Cottage Foods pdf AFDO Cottage Foods Presentation Corby.pdf Tragedy as ‘smiling’ baby Tyler Wilson dies of salmonella at five months old | Hull Daily Mail ‘Fry them’ comments in jury room could get Parnells a new trial | Food Safety News Why are salad greens always labeled “triple-washed”? Palumbo et al. article These go to 11.mpg - YouTube Julie Finigan Morris FSIS article on mold safety Parasitic Diseases, 6th Ed — This Week in Parasitism Blue Apron Has “Concerns” Over Proposed Food Safety Regulation - BuzzFeed News Boston’s Chicken & Rice Guys shutdown to “sort out” E. coli outbreak | Food Safety News

This episode starts with a chat about the need for butter refrigeration, bats and scorpions in leafy greens (oh my). The guys briefly celebrate Ben's birthday before talking about risk attribution, and yet another hot take on the 5 second rule, eating insects on purpose, and "food safety" tips from the internet. They make two book recommendations before talking about rat lungworm and other disgusting things. The show wraps with an example of doing food safety right, and breaking news about doing food safety wrong before a brief dip into pop culture. * [Do you really need to refrigerate butter? - TODAY.com](http://www.today.com/food/do-you-really-need-refrigerate-butter-t110371) * [Show me the data: butter at room temperature edition](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/show-me-the-data-butter-at-room-temperature-edition/) * [Bats in salad is yuck factor stuff; actual illnesses end up lost](http://barfblog.com/2017/04/bats-in-salad-is-yuck-factor-stuff-actual-illnesses-end-up-lost/) * [Dead Bat Found Inside Package of Salad in Florida, Officials Say](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/business/walmart-bat-organic-salad.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=) * [Isolation of Salmonella Virchow from a fruit bat (Pteropus giganteus)](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24136382) * [Maryland Woman Finds Live Scorpion in Bag of Spinach ](http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Couple-Finds-Live-Scorpion-in-Bag-of-Spinach-419101614.html) * [Nena‎- 99 Luftballons - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La4Dcd1aUcE) * [Ranking the disease burden of 14 pathogens in food sources in the United States...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22980012) * [Alton Brown on the 5-Second Rule](https://www.tastingtable.com/entertain/national/alton-brown-five-second-rule) * [Flour recall: How E. coli in flour can make you sick](http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/bakers-beware-how-e-coli-in-flour-can-make-you-sick-1.3373064) * [Get your fried grasshoppers here: the big hit at Mariners home games](http://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/get-your-fried-grasshoppers-here-the-big-hit-at-mariners-home-games/) * [8 Foods You Shouldn't Reheat (Because They Could Poison You)](http://www.myrecipes.com/healthy-diet/foods-leftovers-not-safe-reheat-poison) * [Feel free to order soup anywhere | Six Tips to Avoid Foodborne Illness When Dining Out](http://www.lifehacker.co.in/jugaad/six-tips-to-avoid-foodborne-illness-when-dining-out/feel-free-to-order-soup-anywhere/slideshow/58009353.cms) * [Kitchen Confidential Updated Edition: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0060899220/ref=rdr_ext_tmb) * [Heat: An Amateur's Adventures as Kitchen Slave, Line Cook, Pasta-Maker, and Apprentice to a Dante-Quoting Butcher in Tuscany](https://www.amazon.com/Heat-Adventures-Pasta-Maker-Apprentice-Dante-Quoting/dp/1400034477/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8) * [Pod Save America on Twitter](https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) * [Rat Lungworm on Hawaii puts produce at risk](http://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/rat-lungworm-on-hawaii-puts-produce-at-risk/#.WPeLv1KZMUE) * [Undercooled meat. Dangerous fish. Health inspectors ding Trump’s Mar-a-Lago kitchen](http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/restaurants/article144261894.html) * [AmazonFresh](https://www.amazon.com/AmazonFresh/b?ie=UTF8&node=10329849011) * [Mango Ice Cream Bars Recalled in Georgia due to Salmonella](http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/food-recall/mango-ice-cream-bars-recalled-in-georgia-due-to-salmonella/#.WPeRMFKZMUE) * [Brockmire](http://www.ifc.com/shows/brockmire)

In this episode, Don and Ben talk about life hacks and things that might not be life hacks; Gwyneth Paltrow, cookbooks and Ben's recent media experiences (and the perils of emailing while sitting on the toilet). Also in this episode the guys breakdown STEC in soy nut butter and Dixie Dew's FDA 483 form plus a bonus on ROP cheeses.

This episode opens with an interesting discovery about the messages app then quickly veers into popular culture, and almost as quickly back to food safety. Food safety talk on rice and Bacillus cereus is followed by a discussion of the Salmonella in truffle oil outbreak at Fig & Olive restaurants. The discussion then turns to recalls and when to go public. A recent Listeria recall linked to cheese made from pasteurize milk leads to talk about raw milk, followed by a brief segue into North Carolina life, and then on to a recent Lysol ad, and the five second rule. The show wraps up with a discussion of recipe safety, followed by what Ben thinks might be the best after dark ever. Show notes so you can follow along at home: Coolio- Gangster's Paradise Weird Al Yankovic - Amish Paradise Dangerous Minds More Life by Drake TypeShift on the App Store @MerriamWebster Leftover Rice Could Make You Very Sick Prevalence, characterization and growth of Bacillus cereus in commercial cooked chilled foods containing vegetables Investigation of Salmonella Enteritidis Outbreak Associated with Truffle Oil — District of Columbia, 2015 Fig & Olive on barfblog Fig & Olive Settles Majority of Salmonella Poisoning Cases Going public: Why FDA doesn’t share retail outlet information (but should) Bill Hallman, Rutgers University Sargento Cheese Recalled - Colby Cheese Contaminated With Listeria Like Russian Roulette? Try Raw Milk David Gumpert Pod Save America NC woman’s wedding dress accidentally donated to Goodwill Dueling Banjos American Standard Toilet: VorMax “Splatter” Lysol Kitchen Pro TV Commercial, 'Five-Second Rule' - iSpot.tv Lysol and the FTC Yeast Waffles Recipe - Allrecipes.com Evaluating food safety risk messages in popular cookbooks The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right: Atul Gawande Steve Jobs "BOOM" complete compilation (1992-2010) - YouTube I Love LA, Randy Newman Recipes Just Got Safe with Our New Online Tool Page Not Found | FoodSafety.gov AirPods - Apple Aloksak Durable Film Bags

Don and Ben talk I.M. Healthy's soy nut butter-linked E. coli outbreak; social responsibility and food safety; and produce washing. The guys also discuss the particulars of goalie screening and Salmonella sticking around in the environment for months. Bonus: urinals. Show notes so you can follow along at home: David Brent: Life on the Road Legionella When I’m Sixty-Four Food Bank of Central & Eastern North Carolina Rumi: Buy Afghan Saffron Kinesiology Tape and How it’s Used in Physical Therapy Screen Ryan Smyth Going Public: Early Disclosure of Food Risks for the Benefit of Public Health FDA Investigates Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Linked to SoyNut Butter Multistate Outbreak of Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli O157:H7 Infections Linked to I.M. Healthy Brand SoyNut Butter I.M. Healthy SoyNut butter website Research finds some E. coli survive cooking temperatures Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Soft Raw Milk Cheese Made by Vulto Creamery An Outbreak of Salmonella Typhimurium Associated with Playground Sand in a Preschool Setting — Madrid, Spain One more look at lessons unlearned in raw burger outbreak The President and Safe Food McDonald’s Now Serving Chicken Raised Without Antibiotics — Mostly Pod Save America Is washing your produce a waste of time? Linda J. Harris Randy Worobo This Glass Toaster Costs $1,000—But It Can Cook Steak Bridge of Spies The Amazon reviews for a phone designed for rectal smuggling Facebook link to Steak in a Toaster

* [Makebelieve Help, Old Butchers, and Figuring Out Who You Are (For Now)](http://www.43folders.com/2009/10/22/who-you-are) * [Dishwasher Detergent Soak Cleans Dishes Overnight](http://lifehacker.com/5385784/dishwasher-detergent-soak-cleans-dishes-overnight) * [Soda vs Pop vs. Coke: Who Says What, And Where?](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/soda-vs-pop_n_2103764.html) * [Soda Vs. Pop Map](http://www.businessinsider.com/soda-vs-pop-map-2012-7) * [The Pop Shoppe - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pop_Shoppe) * [Reese's Peanut Butter Cups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reese's_Peanut_Butter_Cups) * [Gunga Galunga](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56VlKT0) * [SoftRound 24 Pack Foam Earbud Earpad Ear Bud Pad Replacement Sponge Covers](https://www.amazon.com/SoftRound-Earbud-Replacement-Headsets-T-017-24P/dp/B00DW1X5JC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1487872520&sr=8-2&keywords=ear+bud+replacement+pads) * [Ron Swanson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Swanson) * [Tom Haverford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Haverford) * [Girls (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(TV_series)) * [Last Week Tonight with John Oliver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Week_Tonight_with_John_Oliver) * [Always Be Closing - Glengarry Glen Ross Movie clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_t7GtXO6w) * [Fun Kee Jenkins on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/fun-kee-jenkins-025446121/) * [Spicy In Means Spicy Out (pdf)](http://medcraveonline.com/JNHFE/JNHFE-05-00183.pdf) * [Librarian's list of 'predatory' journals reportedly removed due to 'threats and politics'](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/01/18/librarians-list-predatory-journals-reportedly-removed-due-threats-and-politics) * [Impact factor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor) * [h-index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-index) * [Family finds live chicken in washroom at Cobourg McDonald's](http://www.northumberlandnews.com/news-story/7152005-family-finds-live-chicken-in-washroom-at-cobourg-mcdonald-s/) * [@MCBazacoPhD onTwitter](https://twitter.com/MCBazacoPhD) * [GOOGLE "blacklists" Natural News](https://investmentwatchblog.com/google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-from-its-index-memory-holes-natural-news-investigative-articles-on-vaccines-pharma-corruption-fraudulent-scie/) * [xkcd: Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/) * [Morgan Hill Restaurant Fined $120K For Serving Tilapia As Petrale Sole](http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/02/16/morgan-hill-restaurant-fish-false-advertising-petrale-sole-tilapia/) * [Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/#.WK8slhiZMUE) * [Andrew Schneider, great journalist and great guy, passes](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/02/137580/#.WK8ssRiZMUE) * [Canadians concerned about food fraud](https://www.dal.ca/news/2017/02/21/canadians-concerned-about-food-fraud.html) * [Yeah, well that's just your opinion man. (Big Lebowski)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ) * [Presser - Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/presser) * [Melissa McCarthy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_McCarthy) * [MDA issues consumer advisory for Dukarani Food Processing products](http://www.mda.state.mn.us/news/releases/2017/nr20170216dukarani.aspx) * [BeFoodSafe.ca](http://befoodsafe.ca/) * [David Simon (@AoDespair) on Twitter](https://twitter.com/AoDespair)

• Super Bowl LI • Hunt for the Wilderpeople • The Castle • Love It or List It • Portlandia (season 7) • Sean Spicer Press Conference (Melissa McCarthy) • Pod Save the World • Woman, prosecuted for ceviche sales on Facebook, settles with DA | Ars Technica • Woman, prosecuted for selling $12 of ceviche on Facebook, now faces trial | Ars Technica • Conference Agenda | CFSEC 2017 • Iowa cookie dough supplier shuts down after listeria outbreak • FDA Warning Letter 2017 > Aspen Hills, Inc. 1/10/17 • cookiedough.com - by Aspen Hills, Inc., Garner - Iowa • Watch: Lady Gaga’s Super Bowl halftime show reminded America she’s a star - Vox • Verizon FiOS rolls out 500/100 Mbps broadband, its highest speed tier yet

This episode has you covered from the top of your head to the tips of your lucky socks. Ben and Don dig into some 1980's culture and shoot forward into the food on the future, and then back again. It's a food (and pet) safety grab bag covering pineapple safety, hand sizes and hand sanitizers, safe raw cookie dough, rats, turtles, milk from camels, microgreens and toilet history. Here are some links so you can follow along at home. * [Socks](https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=socks&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=172784669649&hvpos=1t3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15289779452546695849&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003676&hvtargid=kwd-19345770&ref=pd_sl_6e22knv3yz_e) * [Miami Vice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Vice) * [eero - WiFi](https://eero.com/) * [Dippin' Dots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dippin'_Dots) * [Sean Spicer's Dippin' Dots Tweets Put Press Secretary On The Spot : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511278562/dippin-dots-beef-puts-white-house-press-secretary-on-the-spot) * [Dippin' Dots open lettr](https://www.dippindots.com/news/2017/01/Open-Letter-to-Sean-Spicer.html) * [Say Anything... ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Anything...) * [Ill Communication by Beastie Boys on Apple Music](https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sure-shot/id724771323?i=724771816) * [Pod Save America](https://getcrookedmedia.com/here-have-a-podcast-78ee56b5a323#.neujn6xky) * [sciencecafes.org](http://www.sciencecafes.org/) * [Science Cafe: You cannot B. cereus: Microbial food safety in the modern world](http://naturalsciences.org/calendar/event/science-cafe-you-cannot-b-cereus-microbial-food-safety-in-the-modern-world/) * [Lunds & Byerlys Pulls 'Fresh-Cut Cored Pineapple' after Voluntary Recall | KSTP.com](http://kstp.com/news/lunds-and-byerlys-recalls-pineapple-listeria-risk-no-illnesses/4376206/) * [Growth Potential of Listeria Monocytogenes and Staphylococcus Aureus on Fresh-Cut Tropical Fruits](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1750-3841.13089/abstract) * [USDA Scientists Have Been Put On Lockdown Under Trump](https://www.buzzfeed.com/dinograndoni/trump-usda?utm_term=.we0GMyOvZ#.jdxNq6PR8) * [You Aren't Using Enough Hand Sanitizer](http://www.acsh.org/news/2017/01/10/you-arent-using-enough-hand-sanitizer-10717) * [Hand coverage by alcohol-based handrub varies: Volume and hand size matter](http://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(16)30690-3/abstract) * [Gorge On Cookie Dough In All Its Forms At This NYC Eatery](http://www.konbini.com/us/lifestyle/gorge-on-raw-cookie-dough-cookie-do-nyc/) * [Spaceballs (1987)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/) * [Not Even Scientists Can Easily Explain P-values](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/not-even-scientists-can-easily-explain-p-values/) * [CDC: Pet rats linked to virus outbreak](http://www.ksat.com/health/cdc-pet-rats-linked-to-virus-outbreak) * [FDA Bets It Will Escape Coming Political Hurricane, Targets Raw Camel Milk](http://www.davidgumpert.com/3010-2) * [FDA Compliance & Enforcement on Salmonella and Turtle Safety](http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/GuidanceComplianceEnforcement/ComplianceEnforcement/ucm090573.htm) [NC rule on pet turtles](http://cph.publichealth.nc.gov/Rules/EpiHealth/10A-NCAC-41A-.0302.pdf) * [The History of 'Toilet' on Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-history-of-toilet) * [Microgreens, Elevator, This Old House](https://www.thisoldhouse.com/watch/ask-toh-microgreens-elevator)

* [Labatts](http://www.labattus.com/) * [Philips goLITE](http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/HF3332_60/golite-blu-energy-light) * [North Carolina is no longer a democracy](http://andrewgelman.com/2017/01/02/about-that-bogus-claim-that-north-carolina-is-no-longer-a-democracy/) * [QDOBA Mexican Eats](https://www.qdoba.com/) * [How to Start Listening to "Hamilton" via kung fu grippe](http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/154553607289/hamilton) * [AirPods - Apple](http://www.apple.com/airpods/) * [SONY MDR-7506 Headphones Replacement Ear Pad](https://www.amazon.com/MDR-7506-MDR-CD900ST-Headphones-Replacement-Cushion/dp/B00SIK5TQO/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483472803&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=sony+headphones+cushions+mdr+7506) * [Westworld (TV series) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)) * [James Marsden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Marsden) * [The Hilarious World of Depression by American Public Media on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hilarious-world-depression/id1181589175?mt=2) * [Carrie Fisher](http://carriefisher.com/) * [All the news just repeats itself: Restaurant disclosure proposed for France on barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/all-the-news-just-repeats-itself-restaurant-disclosure-proposed-for-france/) * [Wendy's Put a Troll on Ice With 2017's Best Tweet So Far](http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/wendys-put-troll-ice-2017s-best-tweet-so-far-175334) * [Safety? Food on iPads on barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/safety-food-on-ipads/) * [We Want Plates](http://wewantplates.com/) * [Carol Wallace, University of Central Lancashire](http://www.uclan.ac.uk/staff_profiles/carol_wallace.php) * [CSPI petitions undetectable limit of Vibrio vulnificus in molluscan shellfish, FDA says no | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/cspi-petitions-undetectable-limit-of-vibrio-vulnificus-in-molluscan-shellfish-fda-says-no/) * [FDA vibrio petition denial](https://cspinet.org/sites/default/files/attachment/FDA%20vibrio%20petition%20denial.pdf) * [Food Safety Talk 115: Features Chico Marx](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2016/12/19/food-safety-talk-115-features-groucho-marx) * [Cause of Contra Costa County Thanksgiving Foodborne Illness Outbreak Identified](http://cchealth.org/press-releases/2016/1220-Cause-Thanksgiving-Incident.php) * [Dan Letendre on Twitter](https://twitter.com/LetendreDan/status/816386437813850112) * [Top 10 Food Poisoning Stories of 2016](https://foodpoisoningbulletin.com/2017/top-10-food-poisoning-stories-of-2016/) * [UK's raw milk vending machine outbreak expands; 56 sick](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/01/uks-raw-milk-vending-machine-outbreak-expands-56-sick/#.WGwRlbGZMUE) * [Raw milk advocates make the most of anti-reg mood in U.S.](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/raw-milk-advocates-make-the-most-of-anti-reg-mood-in-u-s/#.WGwRxrGZMUF) * [Outbreak Linked to Raw Milk from South Carolina](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/07/eight-sick-in-nc-outbreak-linked-to-sc-raw-milk/#.WGwUQ7GZMUF) * [Blue Bell asks FDA if it can return testing to 'industry norm'](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/blue-bell-asks-fda-if-it-can-return-testing-to-industry-norm/#.WGwTTLGZMUE) * [More on Modernist Cuisine and bad microbial food safety; Colbert, careful of Clostridium in the pastrami](http://barfblog.com/2011/03/more-on-modernist-cuisine-and-bad-microbial-food-safety-colbert-careful-of-clostridium-in-the-pastrami/) * [Feds waited 8 months to reveal cucumber Salmonella outbreak](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/12/feds-waited-8-months-to-reveal-cucumber-salmonella-outbreak/#.WGwVVrGZMUE) * [Beth McCoy at SUNY Geneseo](https://www.geneseo.edu/abs/mccoy) * [People I Follow by The MESH on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/people-i-follow/id873082994?mt=2)

It’s the super happy holiday version of Food Safety Talk. Don and Ben chat about Christmas movies, gambling as children and other holiday traditions. Making appearances in the guys' discussion Twitter and posting great questions of regulators about poor recall notices; cooling and holding cous cous and regulatory interpretations of time as a public health control; norovirus outbreaks at schools; and, Chipotle’s food safety culture.

The recording starts as Ben answers the call in video mode, but things soon get back on track. * [Ingrid Michaelson](http://www.ingridmichaelson.com/) * [Koan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan) * [Baratza Grinders](https://www.youtube.com/user/Baratzallc1?app=desktop) * [LMGTFY](http://lmgtfy.com/) * [The Crown (TV Series) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4786824/) * [Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life (TV Mini-Series 2016) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5435008/) * [Dan Letendre on Twitter](https://twitter.com/LetendreDan/status/805838905694109696) * [But What If We're Wrong?: by Chuck Klosterman](https://www.amazon.com/But-What-If-Were-Wrong/dp/0399184120) * [Fear Agent - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_Agent) * [Big Hero 6 (2014) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2245084/) * [Food porn: People want rare hamburgers yet aren't informed of risks | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/12/food-porn-people-want-rare-hamburgers-yet-arent-informed-of-risks/) * [Craig Ferguson on Keith Richards and The Rolling Stones - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tCMfzuLyc) * [Matt Shipman (@ShipLives) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/shiplives?lang=en) * [Don't Trust Your Waiter for Food Safety Advice, NC State News](https://news.ncsu.edu/2016/12/waiter-food-safety-2016/) * [More illnesses tied to Antioch Thanksgiving meal](http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/29/antioch-elder-victims-of-suspected-food-borne-illness-came-from-separate-care-homes/#) * [Church dinner at Legion post on Thanksgiving ends in tragedy | Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/11/church-dinner-at-legion-post-on-thanksgiving-ends-in-tragedy/) * [Cooking for Crowds Curriculum - Instructor Materials, Penn State Extension](http://extension.psu.edu/food/safety/educators/cooking-for-crowds) * [Not the 4-H: 21 confirmed sick with Salmonella in 8 US states from contact with dairy bull calves | barfblog](http://barfblog.com/2016/11/not-the-4-h-21-confirmed-sick-with-salmonella-in-8-us-states-from-contact-with-dairy-bull-calves/) * [Prevalence and Level of Listeria monocytogenes in Ice Cream](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2016/00000079/00000011/art00001) * [Infectious Dose of Listeria monocytogenes in Outbreak Linked to Ice Cream, United States, 2015](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/12/16-0165_article) * [Recovery and Growth Potential of Listeria monocytogenes in Temperature Abused Milkshakes Prepared from Naturally Contaminated Ice Cream...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=27242775&dopt=Abstract) * [Salmonella Enteritidis Infections Associated with a Contaminated Immersion Blender at a Camp](http://opensample.info/salmonella-enteritidis-infections-associated-with-a-contaminated-immersion-blender-at-a-camp) * [Older Adults and Food Poisoning](http://www.eatright.org/resource/homefoodsafety/safety-tips/food-poisoning/older-adults-and-food-poisoning) * [Nutrition Tips to Keep the Immune System Strong for People with HIV-AIDS](http://www.eatright.org/resource/health/diseases-and-conditions/hiv-aids/nutrition-and-hiv-aids) * [Blue Bell 483 form](http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-afda-orgs/documents/document/ucm446107.pdf) * [Blue Bell's 483 form response](http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/@fdagov-afda-orgs/documents/document/ucm450509.pdf) * [Edible Dehydrated Zebra Tarantula](https://www.amazon.com/Newport-Jerky-Company-Dehydrated-Tarantula/dp/B01APQ58XC?th=1) * [Insects as the Food of the Future](http://www.ift.org/newsroom/news-releases/2014/june/25/insects-as-the-food-of-the-future.aspx) * [Say Anything... (1989) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098258/) * [A Chef's Life | Shows | PBS Food](http://www.pbs.org/food/shows/a-chefs-life/) Special test for true friends of the show: Don edited the audio, but it sounds like Ben did. Why?

What’s the deal, Banana Peel? - idioms colloquialism catchphrase Fahrenheit 451 Tracey Ullman’s Show Donald Trump Prepares Cold Open - SNL - YouTube Dave Chappelle Stand-Up Monologue - SNL - YouTube WRAL changes language policy for SNL :: WRAL.com Harry Chapin Zobo Funn Band yves REY | LinkedIn Thanksgiving Matt Shipman (@ShipLives) | Twitter Goldsboro, North Carolina California single mom may do jail time for selling ceviche on Facebook Single Mom Faces Jail Time After Participating in Facebook Food Group Proposed Virginia law would allow sale of uninspected home processed food On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen: Harold McGee Microbiological and observational analysis of cross contamination risks during domestic food preparation: British Food Journal: Vol 106, No 8 Cross-Contamination During Food Preparation: A Mechanistic Model Applied to Chicken-Borne Campylobacter - Mylius - 2007 - Risk Analysis Sabra Hummus Recall All the germs, bacteria, and diseases living on your phone - Business Insider Frank Yiannas (@frankyiannas) | Twitter One percent of cucumbers carry salmonella, FDA says Sampling > Microbiological Surveillance Sampling: FY16 Cucumbers and Hot Peppers Estimating the annual fraction of eggs contaminated with Salmonella enteritidis in the United States john roderick (@johnroderick) | Twitter Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency | BBC America A Thanksgiving Miracle - SNL - YouTube

This birthday themed episode features wide-ranging topics, many based on listener feedback. We briefly touch on election results, and then move (almost) right into food safety. Thanks to everyone for listening and for your feedback. * [Mac - Apple](http://www.apple.com/mac/) * [HoudahSpot software](https://www.houdah.com/houdahSpot/?lang=en) * [First Dubai International Conference on Applied Nutrition - DIFSC](http://www.foodsafetydubai.com/) * [Manpreet Singh](https://ag.purdue.edu/foodsci/Pages/Profile.aspx?strAlias=singh227&intDirDeptID=14) * [The Talk Show Ep. 172, With Special Guest Merlin Mann](http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2016/11/09/ep-172) * [Rutgers 250](http://250.rutgers.edu/) * [Li Ching-Yuen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen) * [Li Ching-Yuen: 256-Year-Old Man? : snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/trivia/ching-yuen.asp) * [Cat's Cradle - Sloan, November 16th, 2016](http://www.catscradle.com/event/1218569-sloan-carrboro/) * [Restaurant & Commercial Kitchen Equipment | Alto-Shaam](https://www.alto-shaam.com/en) * [Appendix A to Compliance Guidelines](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/rdad/FRPubs/95-033F/95-033F_Appendix_A.htm) * [D-value (microbiology) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-value_(microbiology) * [z value wikipedia - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=z++value+wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) * [People get "violently ill" from Soylent bars; company stumped](http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/10/reports-of-violent-vomiting-diarrhea-from-bars-has-soylent-on-the-defense/) * [From seaweed to algae: Soylent blames flour for making customers violently ill](http://barfblog.com/2016/11/from-seaweed-to-algae-soylent-blames-flour-for-making-customers-violently-ill/) * [Soylent Thinks It Found What Was Making People Sick: Algae](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-07/soylent-thinks-it-found-what-was-making-people-sick-algae) * [The Wire Clip: Omar "It's all in the game"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cryMVK1PwuQ) * [Luis Ramirez on Twitter: Dogs at grocery stores that prepare foods...](https://mobile.twitter.com/artedeluis/status/790741141482110977) * [The Grammarphobia Blog: Out of pocket](http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2007/05/out-of-pocket.html)

Food Safety Talk 110: Drumsticks and Cornettos — Food Safety Talk Elementary no regerts - Google Search The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou - Wikipedia life aquatic tattoo - Google Search Dr Andrew R. Binder - NC State Mr. Robot The New Dirk Gently Show Is Nothing Like the Books, But It’s Still a Blast | WIRED Reconcilable Differences #37: A Useless Angle for Swordfighting uht milk bacilus - Google Scholar Wings Sideways Divorce Sinister ‘Clowns’ Are Scaring People In Multiple States : The Two-Way : NPR Penn State students totally lose it after clown sighting | New York Post Frequently Asked Questions - Infused Waters NYC infused water factsheet Food Safety 101: What Is Campylobacter (and What Are We Doing About It)? | NC State University Shannon Majowicz on Twitter: “@bugcounter @barfblog @benjaminchapman Exactly - good risk reduction, so don’t ask, just do it!!” Students Concerned About Food Safety, Options as HUDS Strike Drags On | News | The Harvard Crimson Going public: The hepatitis A case that wasn’t Health Department identifies bacteria in Mighty Taco’s refried beans - The Buffalo News Pellegrino Foods Making Sous Vide Simplify Work for You Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) — Food Safety Talk Steve Jobs “BOOM” complete compilation (1992-2010) Going public: Foody World Listeria edition Pepper leads to esophageal hole

This week's episode has some audio quality issues towards the end. Listen to find out why. As usual, here are show notes so you can follow along at home. * [Beats by Dre](http://www.beatsbydre.com/headphones/beats-studio-wireless.html) * [AirPods](http://www.apple.com/airpods/) * [Donald Trump Couldn’t Stop Sniffing ... Again](http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-couldn-t-stop-sniffing-again-1787605842) * [Official Toronto Blue Jays Website](http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=tor) * [New York Mets - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Mets) * [Licensed to Ill - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licensed_to_Ill) * [When the Power Is Out - When to Refreeze Frozen Food and When to Throw It Out | NC State University](https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/when-the-power-is-out-when-to-refreeze-frozen-food-and-when-to-throw-it-out) * [Refrigerated Food and Power Outages: When to Save and When to Throw Out | FoodSafety.gov](https://www.foodsafety.gov/keep/charts/refridg_food.html) * [Produce cannot safely be salvaged in flooded areas | Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/08/garden-produce-cannot-safely-be-salvaged-in-flooded-areas/) * [Safely Using Produce from Flooded Gardens, U Wisc.](https://foodsafety.wisc.edu/assets/pdf_Files/Safely%20Using%20Produce%20from%20Flooded%20Gardens.pdf) * [122 report illness after eating Mighty Taco refried beans](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/122-report-illness-after-eating-mighty-taco-refried-beans-20161007) * [Growth of Clostridium perfringens during cooling of refried beans. - PubMed](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23043826) * [Salmonella test prompts microgreens recall](http://www.thepacker.com/news/salmonella-test-prompts-microgreens-recall) * [Osage Gardens Inc. Recalls Osage Gardens Organic 2oz Micro Greens Because of Possible Health Risk](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm524638.htm?source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery) * [Nestlé recalls Drumstick cones after listeria test](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/health/nestle-ice-cream-recall/) * [Nestlé USA Initiates Voluntary Recall Of Nestlé® Drumstick® Club 16 Count Variety and 24 Count Vanilla Pack Due to Possible Health Risk](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm524634.htm) * [Nestlé Recall prss release, Drumstick Variety Packs](http://www.nestleusa.com/media/pressreleases/nestle-drumstick-recall) * [Three Flavours Cornetto trilogy - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Flavours_Cornetto_trilogy) * [Super Troopers (2001)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247745/) * [Star Trek Beyond](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id1128456722) * [Goodnights & Factory Restaurant](http://www.goodnightscomedy.com/) * [AMolecular Evidence of Oysters as Vehicle of Norovirus GII](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/11/16-1171_article) * [Las Cruces, New Mexico - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Cruces,_New_Mexico) * [Grateful Dead - El Paso - 6-26-94 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfI5Ep4GDK8) * [I’m a Doctor. If I Drop Food on the Kitchen Floor, I Still Eat It](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/upshot/im-a-doctor-if-i-drop-food-on-the-kitchen-floor-i-still-eat-it.html?_r=0) * [Dr. Oz Asks: Is Your Poop Normal or Not? - Sharecare](https://www.sharecare.com/health/digestive-health/article/is-your-poop-normal-or-not)

Takin’ Care of Business Food Safety Talk 108: Hyperbole and fire ants Portlandia Season 6 Louis CK on airplane wifi Back to Work Longer Contact Times Increase Cross-Contamination of Enterobacter aerogenes from Surfaces to Food; Is the five-second rule real? barfblog: 89 now sick with hep a what kind of trendy smoothie place gets their frozen strawberries from egypt Multistate outbreak of hepatitis A linked to frozen strawberries Getting Things Done Meat and Poultry Inspection Dialogue Genetic determinants of heat resistance in Escherichia coli New York Times: ‘Five-Second Rule’ for Food on Floor Is Untrue, Study Finds Rutgers Researchers Debunk ‘Five-Second Rule’: Eating Food off the Floor Isn’t Safe Rutgers Open Access Policy & SOAR Modeling the growth of Listeria monocytogenes on cut cantaloupe, honeydew and watermelon Mr. Robot wikipedia Five-second rule Surface sanitation and microbiological food quality of a university foodservice operation So Long Farewell

Ben and Don are joined on this episode by special guest John "if I was a rock **star** you would have heard of me" Roderick. John does not like potatoes, but he does ask lots of great questions. * [Water activity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_activity) * [Clostridium perfringens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clostridium_perfringens) * [Steak tartare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare) * [Home | Conference on World Affairs | University of Colorado Boulder](http://www.colorado.edu/cwa/) * [Public Health Focus > Bisphenol A (BPA): Use in Food Contact Application](http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm064437.htm) * [Category:Swamps of North Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swamps_of_North_Carolina) * John's band, [The Long Winters](http://www.thelongwinters.com/) * [Food Safety Talk 39: Des Moines is Known for their Scallops — Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2013/5/5/food-safety-talk-39) * [Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Bareilly and Salmonella Nchanga Infections Associated with Nakaochi Scrape AA or AAA Frozen Raw Tuna from India](http://www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Outbreaks/ucm298741.htm) * [FDA issues final rule on safety and effectiveness of antibacterial soaps](http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm517478.htm) * [Genetically modified food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food) * [FDA Food Code](http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/RetailFoodProtection/FoodCode/) * [1993 Jack in the Box E. coli outbreak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak) To hear more from John, check out his other podcasts [Roderick on the Line](http://www.merlinmann.com/rotl-episodes/) and [Road Work](http://5by5.tv/roadwork).

Show note links to follow along at home: * [Publix Super Markets](http://www.publix.com/) * [Lee-Ann Jaykus](https://fbns.ncsu.edu/faculty-directory/lee-ann-jaykus/) * [Michael Roberson](https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-roberson-97a58a15) * [Wal-Mart's chicken safety program shows significant results](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/08/130453/) * [Serotypes Profile of Salmonella Isolates from Meat and Poultry Products January 1998 through December 2014](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/3866026a-582d-4f0e-a8ce-851b39c7390f/Salmonella-Serotype-Annual-2014.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Tracing the Origins of Salmonella Outbreaks](http://science.sciencemag.org/content/287/5450/50) * [Serotype distribution of Salmonella isolates from food animals after slaughter differs from that of isolates found in humans](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11262216) * [Efficacy of Instant Hand Sanitizers against Foodborne Pathogens Compared with Hand Washing with Soap and Water in Food Preparation Settings: A Systematic Review](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303851072_Efficacy_of_Instant_Hand_Sanitizers_against_Foodborne_Pathogens_Compared_with_Hand_Washing_with_Soap_and_Water_in_Food_Preparation_Settings_A_Systematic_Review) * [An extended model for transfer of micro-organisms via the hands: differences between organisms and the effect of alcohol disinfection.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129313/) * [Five-second rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-second_rule) * ["Weird Al" Yankovic - White & Nerdy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw) * [Scallops Culprit in Hawaii Hepatitis A Outbreak](http://www.marlerblog.com/legal-cases/scallops-culprit-in-hawaii-hepatitis-a-outbreak/) * [Blast from the past: hep A inactivation in scallops](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/blast-from-the-past-hep-a-inactivation-in-scallops/) * [PSY - GANGNAM STYLE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0) * [Hepatitis A Vaccination | What You Need to Know | CDC](http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hepa/public/index.html) * [Scallop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scallop) * [Effect of lime juice on Vibrio parahaemolyticus and Salmonella enterica inactivation during the preparation of the raw fish dish ceviche](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23726199) * [Food Safety Talk 39](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2013/5/5/food-safety-talk-39) * [I f'ing love science](https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience) * [Food Poisoning Expert Reveals 6 Things He Refuses To Eat](http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/food-poisoning-expert-reveals-6-things-he-refuses-to-eat/all/) * [xkcd: Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/) * [Dole and Listeria: The Shaggy Defense](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/dole-and-listeria-the-shaggy-defense/) * [Leafy greens, listeria, environmental sampling and tragedy](http://barfblog.com/2016/05/leafy-greens-listeria-environmental-sampling-and-tragedy/) * [Compliance Policy Guides - Listeria monocytogenes](http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyGuidanceManual/ucm136694.htm) * [Dole Fresh Vegetables Announces Allergy Alert and Voluntary Limited Recall](http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm412157.htm) * [Washington company linked to Listeria monocytogenes illnesses gets a warning letter](http://barfblog.com/2016/08/washington-company-linked-to-listeria-monocytogenes-illnesses-gets-a-warning-letter/) * [CRF FROZEN FOODS LLC to Oregon Potato Co](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/CRF+FROZEN+FOODS+LLC,+North+Commercial+Avenue,+Pasco,+WA/Oregon+Potato+Co,+6610+W+Court+St,+Pasco,+WA+99301/) * [Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables](https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/outbreaks/frozen-vegetables-05-16/) * [Murder on the Orient Express](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_on_the_Orient_Express) * [Tyrell Wellick - Mr. Robot Wikia](http://mrrobot.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrell_Wellick)

Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) Foley (filmmaking) Food Safety Talk 23: Hello? Hello? Stalkers? Or closing the barn door after stepping on the cat mango st louis Compass Rose Minnesota Food Safety Brian Sauders Sugarfire Smokehouse BBQ The Crack Fox Blister in the Sun - Violent Femmes Watch Portlandia Preach the Gospel of Raw Milk - Eater Chapel Hill Creamery recalls all the cheese after link to salmonellosis illnesses | barfblog Chapel Hill Creamery » How We Make Our Cheese Panera No No List Panera Bread - The Healthiest Fast Food?!? - Food Babe Aeropress Inverted Method - How to brew Name change? 86 sick with Salmonella from Red Dirt Melons in Australia | barfblog Texas puts Blue Bell Creameries on a short leash; imposes fine | Food Safety News Mr. Robot Penny Dreadful (TV series) Justified (TV Series 2010–2015) - IMDb Go (1999 film) Program Information - International Association for Food Protection Session: Crowdsourcing and Novel Digital Data: 21st Century Tools for Food Safety Monitoring, Surveillance, and Management (IAFP 2016 Annual Meeting) Home - Got Food Poisoning? Report it now. Presentation: Food Safety in Ontario High School Students: Knowledge, Attitudes, and Practices (IAFP 2016 Annual Meeting)

Quorn Lynn McEntire, Porcelain Doll Artist Dr Lynn McIntyre | Harper Adams University Canadian Tire Sandy McTire Canadian Tire And so it begins … The Talk Show Ep. 161, With John Moltz Sling Blade (1996) Sling TV A Microbiological Comparison of Poultry Products Obtained from Farmers’ Markets and Supermarkets in Pennsylvania - Scheinberg - 2013 - Journal of Food Safety - Wiley Online Library Pokemon Go Clint Stevenson - North Carolina State University Presentation: Yuck Factor Versus Risk Factor: What Shoppers See and Identify as Food Safety Problems at Retail (IAFP 2016 Annual Meeting) Benjamin Chapman Most British eggs safe for pregnant women, report says Raw eggs safe for pregnant women in UK, say food safety experts Ad Hoc Group on Eggs An update on the microbiological risk from shell eggs and their products Q&A on the carcinogenicity of the consumption of red meat and processed meat Led Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown Ep. 208: “Coney Island Horniness” - Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann ZacSchaffner on Twitter: “@bugcounter just heard you mentioned on ep 208 of @RoderickOn! So exciting. #foodsafety.” Egg in a Cup Recipe Canadian Bacon Road Work #16: No Raven Has Ever Brought Me a Button Exposure of Listeria monocytogenes within an epidemic caused by butter in Finland Back bacon The Godfather Collection (The Godfather / The Godfather: Part II / The Godfather: Part III): Last known VCR maker stops production, 40 years after VHS format launch

Show notes so you can follow along at home: * [Fox News host Bret Baier grills the Dalai Lama: "Have you ever seen the movie Caddyshack"](http://www.salon.com/2016/06/17/fox_news_host_bret_baier_grills_the_dalai_lama_have_you_ever_seen_the_movie_caddyshack/) * [Caddyshack - Bill Murray's story about the Dalai Lama - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X48G7Y0VWW4&feature=youtu.be) * [Toque - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toque) * [Town of Emerald Isle, North Carolina](http://www.emeraldisle-nc.org/) * [Best In Show Nuts Scene - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGmNqzbsuiY) * [Jetsetter TSA Compliant Corkscrew](https://www.amazon.com/Jetsetter-TSA-Compliant-Corkscrew-True/dp/B00HZLA2PA) * [Sper Scientific 800101 IR Thermometer: Industrial & Scientific](https://www.amazon.com/Sper-Scientific-800101-IR-Thermometer/dp/B001EUCTAO) * [Mallrats on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/US/movie/id740561396) * [Anova Precision Cooker](http://store.anovaculinary.com/products/anova-precision-cooker) * [Food Safety Talk 79: You're Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) Food Safety Talk](http://foodsafetytalk.com/food-safety-talk/2015/8/6/food-safety-talk-79-youre-into-botulism-country-with-merlin-mann?rq=merlin) * [(((Rich Anderson))) on Twitter: "So, cooked some marinara in the slow cooker...](https://twitter.com/sanspoint/status/745380253841907712) * [FSIS: Slow Cookers and Food Safety](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/appliances-and-thermometers/slow-cookers-and-food-safety/ct_index) * [NCHFP on greenbeans](http://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/factsheets/greenbeans.html) * [The "Danger Zone" Reevaluated - Food Safety Magazine](http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/magazine-archive1/februarymarch-2004/the-danger-zone-reevaluated/) * [Cost Effectiveness of Vaccinating Food Service Workers against Hep A](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/iafp/jfp/2000/00000063/00000006/art00012) * [Stroopwafel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroopwafel) * [Crepe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe) * [NACMCF Inoculated Pack report](http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/3b52f9c0-0585-4c0a-abf2-b4fc89a9668c/NACMCF_Inoculated_Pack_2009F.pdf?MOD=AJPERES) * [Joell Eifert, Virginia Tech](https://www.fst.vt.edu/aboutus/faculty/eifert_joell/index.html) * [The FDA's abstinence-only approach to eating cookie dough is unrealistic and alarmist](http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/07/01/the_fda_s_abstinence_only_approach_to_eating_cookie_dough_is_unrealistic.html) * [Journalism needs expertise, not shrill, to survive: ‘FDA’s abstinence-only approach to eating cookie dough is unrealistic and alarmist’](http://barfblog.com/2016/07/journalism-needs-expertise-not-shrill-to-survive-fdas-abstinence-only-approach-to-eating-cookie-dough-is-unrealistic-and-alarmist/) * [Chipotle's stock down after claims of another food poisoning - Business Insider](http://www.businessinsider.com/chipotles-stock-down-after-reports-of-another-food-poisoning-2016-7) * [The Big Short on iTunes](https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-big-short/id1061320456) * [Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) | Twitter](https://twitter.com/noronerd)

Wolverine (character) Infrared thermometer Advanced Orthopedics & Sports Medicine Institute Canada Day The Newlywed Game Neil Young: Helpless Omemee, Ontario Shakey: Neil Young’s Biography: Jimmy McDonough Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann Revisionist History by Malcolm Gladwell / Panoply on iTunes Source of CRF Listeria remains a mystery Neilson brand Partly Skimmed Chocolate Milk recalled due to Listeria monocytogenes There are Canadians ill from Listeria linked to chocolate milk Statement on HHS OIG Early Alert on FDA food recall initiation process FDA food recall process too slow FDA and DOJ take action against Virginia soybean business for selling contaminated sprouts Green Pie Tomato Filling Albedo-boy is back! - Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science Billionaire technologist accuses NASA asteroid mission of bad statistics Burgers may need higher cooking temperature to be safe from E. coli Genetic determinants of heat resistance in Escherichia coli

Links for topics discussed on this episode: * [Jeffrey LeJeune](https://vet.osu.edu/about-us/people/jeffrey-lejeune) * [NC State University](https://www.ncsu.edu/) * [WWDC - Apple Developer Conference](https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/) * [No 5K Thunderbolt Display With Integrated GPU Coming at WWDC - Mac Rumors](http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/02/no-5k-thunderbolt-display-with-gpu-wwdc/) * [This column will change your life: structured procrastination](http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/sep/07/change-your-life-procrastination-burkeman) * [Sassy STEC (@sassy_stec) on Twitter](https://twitter.com/sassy_stec) * [Multistate Outbreak of Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli O121 Infections Linked to Flour](http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2016/o121-06-16/index.html) * [General Mills: Flour recall](http://www.generalmills.com/flour) * [General Mills announces voluntary flour recall blog post](http://blog.generalmills.com/2016/05/general-mills-announces-flour-recall/?_ga=1.100726658.2031043415.1464963099) * [FDA Continues to Warn Against Eating Raw Dough for Cookies or Other Raw Dough Products before Cooking](http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm198037.htm) * [June 25, 2009: Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections](http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2009/0625.html) * [10 Million Pounds of Frozen Snacks Recalled via L.A. Weekly](http://www.laweekly.com/restaurants/10-million-pounds-of-frozen-snacks-recalled-2893534) * [Pizza Ranch linked to E. coli outbreak in nine states](http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2016/03/16/pizza-ranch-linked-e-coli-outbreak-nine-states/81858786/) * [Outbreak of E. coli O121 Linked to Frozen Snack Products via Food Safety News](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/03/mini-snack-products-recalled-for-e-coli-risk/#.V1GSx8ekiaE) [Ardent Mills Flour Food Safety White Paper](http://www.ardentmills.com/uploads/Ardent_Mills_Flour_Food_Safety_White_Paper.pdf) * [Sperber flour article from Journal of Food Protection](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/iafp/jfp/2007/00000070/00000004/art00036?crawler=true) * [Food Safety Summit slides by FDA's Mickey Parish](http://foodsafetysummit.com/images/2016ppt/Session20_MickeyParish.pdf) * [Recovery and Growth Potential of Listeria monocytogenes in Temperature Abused Milkshakes Prepared from Naturally Contaminated Ice Cream Linked to a Listeriosis Outbreak](http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fmicb.2016.00764/full) * [Justin Trudeau pays tribute to Tragically Hip frontman Gord Downie](http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-gord-downie-1.3613169) * [Apple sends out press invites for WWDC 2016, confirms 10AM PT keynote on June 13 | 9to5Mac](http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/01/apple-sends-out-press-invites-for-wwdc-2016-confirms-10am-pt-keynote-on-june-13/) * [Aeropress Inverted Method](http://www.moustachecoffeeclub.com/aeropress-inverted-method-how-to-brew)

Show notes so you can follow along at home. The Talk Show ✪: Ep. 153, With Ben Thompson The Aerobie® AeroPress® Coffee Maker Amazon.com: Porlex Mini Stainless Steel Coffee Grinder: Manual Coffee Grinders: Kitchen & Dining Beeturia The bowel movement beet test: How to measure your digestive ‘transit time’ Beets & Blood in the Stool John Oliver exposes how the media turns scientific studies into “morning show gossip” - Vox xkcd: Significant Quantifying the effect of hand wash duration, soap use, ground beef debris, and drying methods on the removal of Enterobacter aerogenes on hands Frozen produce recall, expanded. Multistate Outbreak of Listeriosis Linked to Frozen Vegetables CDC CRF Frozen Foods Expands Voluntary Recall to Include All Frozen Vegetable and Fruit Products Due To Possible Health Risk Green Giant? Valley Fresh Steamers? Select Whole Green Beans 12 oz. Bag - Walmart.com Parmesan-Garlic Butter Green Beans recipe from Betty Crocker Allrecipes reveals the enormous gap between foodie culture and what Americans actually cook. Rewashing triple-washed greens at home can only increase risk of foodborne illness Why are salad greens always labeled “triple-washed”? Will the Justice Department look at Dole’s history of recalls and outbreaks? Dole knew of Listeria; feds launch criminal investigation | Food Safety News Dole 483 Food Industry’s Current and Future Role in Preventing Microbial Foodborne Illness within the United States Drake on iTunes Rush - YYZ YKK Group The Night Manager (TV Mini-Series 2016) Storytelling engages the brain; even in podcasts Podcasts Surge, but Producers Fear Apple Isn’t Listening Apple’s actual role in podcasting: be careful what you wish for – Marco.org Chris Sacca OMilk - Vegan Almond & Cashew Milks - Brooklyn Unpacking @AcademicsSay: Part 1 | SAS Confidential Shitexpress · Send shit in a box to someone, stay anonymous, pay with Bitcoin/PayPal Emerging Infectious Diseases by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on iTunes PRX » Station » WRVO Public Media Behind CDC’s Raw Milk Probe: More Doubts About CA Illness - David Gumpert Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann 5by5 | Road Work

In keeping with our current practive, here is a bulleted list of link to the topics we mentioned on the show: Cyndi Lauper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Caddyshack (1980) - IMDb Gunga Galunga clip on YouTube Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) on Twitter Conference for Food Protection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Noro Couch (@norocouch) on Twitter Barbara Kowalcyk and CFI Farm To Table Talk podcast, @FarmToTableTalk on Twitter A Pissed-Off Tampa Chef Explains The “Farm To Fable” Controversy on Food Republic At Tampa Bay farm-to-table restaurants, you’re being fed fiction, Farm to Fable from the Tampa Bay Times Farm to Fable discussion featuring Laura Reiley on Farm To Table Talk podcast on SoundCloud What is Community Supported Agriculture (CSA)? Philly's newest takeout option: Food from a stranger's kitchen Omar "It's all in the game" on YouTube 2016 Biennial Meeting of the Conference for Food Protection ‎Conference for Food Protection, Issues for Council I pdf, Ben's issue was 2016 I-037 ‎Conference for Food Protection, Issues for Council III pdf, Ben's issue was 2016 III-017 The Right Way to Wash Your Hands according to the WSJ, anyway A Pragmatic Randomized Controlled Trial of 6-Step vs 3-Step Hand Hygiene Technique in Acute Hospital Care in the United Kingdom A meta-analysis of the published literature on the effectiveness of antimicrobial soaps Daring Fireball comment on Dyson Hand Dryers post on Ars Joe Smith's excellent TED talk on How to use a paper towel Using a Dyson hand dryer is like setting off a viral bomb in a bathroom from Ars Technica Evaluation of the potential for virus dispersal during hand drying: a comparison of three methods from the Journal of Applied Microbiology Big Tissue wants you to believe bathroom hand dryers spread disease. Here's what science says. from Vox Julia Belluz (@juliaoftoronto) onTwitter Effects of 4 hand-drying methods for removing bacteria from washed hands: a randomized trial. Hamburger buns found stored next to toilet at Checkers restaurant fromWRCBtv.com Everyone’s got a camera: Hamburger buns stored next to toilet at Tennessee Checkers from barfblog NoroCORE

Tassimo AeroPress Wee-Bey Brice Silentó - Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) John J. Guzewich Frederick Stanley, 16th Earl of Derby Basset Hound Starbucks Tumblers, Travel Mugs Haugh unit Howell Living History Farm Jasper Guy Woodroof (1900-1998) BRC Food Safety Americas > Home Carol Wallace University of Central Lancashire Food Safety Management MSc | postgraduate degree course | University of Central Lancashire Massive open online course British Retail Consortium Global Food Safety Initiative Food safety inspections results: A comparison of ethnic-operated restaurants to non-ethnic-operated restaurants Health department inspection criteria more likely to be associated with outbreak restaurants in Minnesota Retail Deli Slicer Cleaning Frequency — Six Selected Sites, United States, 2012 | MMWR Listeria monocytogenes and Listeria spp. Contamination Patterns in Retail Delicatessen Establishments in Three U.S. States EHS-Net reports retail deli slicers cleaning and sanitizing not up to guidance | barfblog Conference for Food Protection Dishwasher Detergent Soak Cleans Dishes Overnight

This week Don and Ben open with the usual popular culture talk and then move into a discussion of Norovirus laden couches, Chipotle (again), and the safety of petting zoos. From there the discussion moves to lady balls, duck sliders, balls to the wall, and Blue Bell Ice Cream. The After Dark features more cowbell.

Show notes so you can follow along at home: Curling For Dummies Cheat Sheet - For Dummies Baltimore woman injured by exploding toilet files lawsuit | Fox News Fecal bacteriotherapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia How to Eat Avocado Seeds for Nutrition | LIVESTRONG.COM Antioxidant activity and phenolic content of selected fruit seeds FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE LYRICS - I-95 Food Safety Talk 11: Somewhere on I-95 — Food Safety Talk Luis Ramirez on Twitter: “@bugcounter @benjaminchapman #workfromhomeflow https://t.co/3woMFwJPMX” Victoria G. Martinez on Twitter: “Food Safety Talk is maybe (definitely) my favourite science outreach podcast. https://t.co/wYVzY1Aw03 @bugcounter https://t.co/3KqqHK4aur” Most fast-food places do well with food safety sam wood (@SamWoodIII) | Twitter What You Need to Know About Listeria, the Biggest Foodborne Threat to Pregnancy Makebelieve Help, Old Butchers, and Figuring Out Who You Are (For Now) | 43 Folders Dishwasher Detergent Soak Cleans Dishes Overnight Recalls, Market Withdrawals, & Safety Alerts > Bonduelle USA Recalls Frozen Corn Because Of Possible Health Risk ADULTERATED FOOD (FDA) Listeria Monocytogenes | American Frozen Food Institute (AFFI) Street food vendors in New Delhi get trained in food safety | barfblog Agent-based model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Luis Ramirez on Twitter: “@bugcounter we see wipes at grocery stores, thoughts on having hand wash stations at produce sections for general public?” New Zealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia John Oliver can’t resist New Zealand MP Steven Joyce’s ‘dildogate’ – video | Film | The Guardian Tomorrow Night (1998) - IMDb LouisCK.net | Horace and Pete R.E.M. - (Don’t Go Back To) Rockville - YouTube R.E.M. Announce Green 25th Anniversary Reissue | News | Pitchfork

The guys are on a roll. They are very happy that they are releasing new episodes consistently. The show opens with a discussion of topics like Boom, Boom Goes the Dynamite, Dyn-o-mite, Beastie Boys, William Shatner, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, The Avett Brothers, The Sadies, and The Best of Little Feat. They quickly transition with the Maytag Raw Milk Blue Cheese recall by Whole Foods. Ben says that there is a no way for customers to tell if milk was pasteurized; they must read the label, and he notes the absence of the word pasteurized makes the difference, not the presence of the word raw. The discussion moves to the literature and a research paper on the survival of E. coli O157:H7 in Gouda and Cheddar aged for 60 days. Don emphasizes that the rate of pathogen decrease and not the days of survival which is important. Ben asked Don if it is safe to consume raw milk. “It depends, and it is complicated” he replies. The conversation turns to an article by David Gumpert “Is OPDC Bumping Scalability Limits, to Detriment of Raw Milk Nationally”. The guys note that exposure is less when a business is small. Don goes off a tangent, mentioning two articles about the brain and self-government. Ben responds to Don by recommending another on risk communication, which suggest that it is hard to change people beliefs. From there the podcast digresses into Wordy Rappinghood and Kanye West Facts before turning to the boiling of water as affected by atmospheric pressure, and altitude in response to a question from Linda Harris. The show ends with a discussion of GFSI audits and poor food safety culture.

West Coast hip hop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Unboxing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia MattyB - Right Now I’m Missing You (ft. Brooke Adee) - YouTube Food Safety Talk 85: I’m the jerky police What to do in 2015: Your statistics diary - Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science Poultry Science (PO) ANALYSIS: Chipotle is a victim of corporate sabotage… biotech industry food terrorists are planting e.coli in retaliation for restaurant’s anti-GMO menu - NaturalNews.com FOMO | Define FOMO at Dictionary.com Thirteenth grade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Dave Bacon Schaffner Letterkenny (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia LouisCK.net | Horace and Pete Watch Kanye West: Ultralight Beam From Saturday Night Live - NBC.com The Parmesan Cheese You Sprinkle on Your Penne Could Be Wood - Bloomberg Business Wageningen University and Research Centre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia EXPIRED? Food Waste in America on Vimeo Inspector: North Knoxville manager “unaware” of food safety requirements | WATE 6 On Your Side Quantitative Data Analysis To Determine Best Food Cooling Practices in U.S. Restaurants Off-Oven Roast Beef Recipe - NYT Cooking Confirmed case of hepatitis A traced to employee at Hamilton restaurant | NJ.com Progress Toward Eliminating Hepatitis A Disease in the United States | MMWR Lemmy (2010) - IMDb Better Call Saul (TV Series 2015®C ) - IMDb HBO Orders David Simon & James Franco’s Porn Drama “The Deuce” to Series | Variety London Spy (TV Mini-Series 2015) - IMDb Mercy Street | A PBS Original Series

Show notes so you can follow along at home: International Association for Food Protection Reconcilable Differences #16: Ancient Bird - Relay FM Tom Jones (@mmbagelz) | Twitter Conference for Food Protection Chipotle may be safer than ever. Seriously! Health department inspection criteria more likely to be associated with outbreak restaurants in Minnesota. - PubMed - NCBI Chipotle will close Feb. 8 for company wide meeting on food safety | OregonLive.com Chipotle Sabotaged by GMO Activists? : snopes.com ‎www.cdc.gov/phlp/docs/forensic_epidemiology/Additional%20Materials/Articles/Torok%20et%20al.pdf Winter’s the Time for Norovirus | North Carolina Health News Farmers Markets and Food-Borne Illness - The New York Times ‎marcfbellemare.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/BellemareKingNguyenFarmersMarketsJuly2015.pdf farmers markets microbiology - Google Scholar Air driers suck; just ask local graffiti artists | barfblog Evaluation of bacterial contaminants found on unused paper towels and possible postcontamination after handwashing: A pilot study - American Journal of Infection Control Food Dehydrator R.E.M. - What’s The Frequency, Kenneth? (Official Video) - YouTube Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Lemmy | Documentary Film - Cosmos Documentaries | Watch Documentary Films Online Motörhead - Ace Of Spades - YouTube MC5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia R.E.M. LYRICS - It’s The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

Prisencolinensinainciusol (with lyrics) - YouTube Watch Nespresso From Saturday Night Live - NBC.com Glengarry Glen Christmas | Saturday Night Live - Yahoo Screen Episodes - Here’s The Thing Prisencolinensinainciusol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Adriano Celetano - Prisencolinensinainciusol - YouTube Food Safety Talk 9: Two monitors and a microphone — Food Safety Talk Paul’s Boutique - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Conversations with the Dead: The Grateful Dead Interview Book - David Gans - Google Books RTP180° - Food 2.0 - YouTube Star Wars: The Force Awakens Official Site Chipotle makes a lot of promises | barfblog Randy Wagstaff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Meal Service Requirements The Big Waste : Food Network Specials : Food Network

The guys begin the show by recommending two albums by Willie Nelson: Yesterday’s Wine and Half Nelson. The conversation moves quickly to the E. coli O157: H7 outbreak related to the chicken salad distributed by Costco. The celery and onion mix, provided by Taylor Farms, was the ingredient contaminated with the pathogen. The scope of the recall was large because it affected so many large retailers. Ben contrasted this recall with the Salmonella outbreak linked to Hershey chocolate in 2006. In that particular case, the supplier of soy lecithin was not revealed by the Canadian Food Inspection agency. From there the talk turns to an FDA warning letter to Gold State Nut which cites the company president for handling nuts after touching his bearded dragon. A Salmonella outbreak in 2014 was linked to bearded dragons and resulting 166 illnesses. The show switches gears when Don shares a hypothetical food safety regulatory scenario with Ben and asks how it would be regulated in North Carolina and New Jersey. Ben notes it would be regulated via a clarification memo. This leads to a discussion of home rule. Ben mentions outbreaks in Alabama and Maryland, linked to similar events. The podcast ends with talking about the movies Legal Eagles and Star Wars. Ben and Don conclude by encouraging the listeners to rate Food Safety Talk in iTunes.

Show notes and links so you can follow along at home: Master of None (TV Series 2015– ) -IMDb Inside Out (2015) on iTunes Dawn French - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Doc Martin (TV Series 2004– ) - IMDb Official Dr Martens Store - US THE CRANBERRIES LYRICS - The Rebels Dolores O’Riordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Thanksgiving goofiness | barfblog Conference for Food Protection International Commission on Microbiological Specifications for Foods Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) > FSMA Final Rule on Produce Safety Roderick for Seattle (@VoteRoderick) | Twitter Roderick on the Line - Merlin Mann USDA Blog » Food Safety Marketing Helps Pave Path to Success at Produce Auction Are those 450 illegal tamales in your pocket, uh, luggage; or are you just happy to see me? | barfblog Polenta Kenkey

The podcast begins with Ben complaining about the clutter in his office, and Don about his downgraded airline membership status (unlike Ben who became a gold member in Delta airline after his trip to Dubai for the International Food Safety Conference). The show starts with a listener question about the shelf life of candy, which is shelf stable from a microbiological perspective because of a low water activity. Don and Ben go on to bond over their love of Brigadeiro from Brazil. The talk moves to a recent WHO report on processed meats, cancer and the guys discuss poor risk communication from the WHO. Ben brings up a recent MMWR article about an E. coli O157:H7 outbreak that was linked to a farming educational event. This prompts Don to talk about the NY Sheep and Wool festival where he did not find any hand washing stations. Don spoke about his talk at the Produce Marketing Association in Atlanta, GA and his trip to Wegmans where he noticed the caramel coated apples were refrigerated and maintained at 40 °F. This was likely due to the 2014 multistate listeriosis outbreaks linked to the consumption of caramel apples. Ben shares that Kroger simply chose to not carry caramel apples which some called a bad knee-jerk reaction to good research. The final topic of the show was Chipotle’s decision to close 43 restaurants in the midst of an E. coli outbreak, although some restaurants have been less than clear about the reason they closed. The podcast ends with reading listener mail.

In an effort to get caught up and get some shows out, we have elected to post today show notes in a more old school style. * [Tripe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripe) * [Andouille](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouille) * [Skype Outage: An Update, and an Apology](http://blogs.skype.com/2015/09/22/skype-outage-an-update-and-an-apology/) * [iOS 9 - What’s New](http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/) * [watchOS 2 review](http://www.imore.com/watchos-2-review) * [Yogi Berra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra) vs. [Yogi Bear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Bear) * [Amazon.com: Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game](http://www.amazon.com/Moneyball-The-Winning-Unfair-Game/dp/0393324818) * [New Jersey Institute for Food, Nutrition, and Health](http://ifnh.rutgers.edu/) * [Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/) * [Foodborne disease under reporting graphic](http://barfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/burden.foodborne.reporting.png) * [Epi Curves for Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/epi.html) * [Case Count Maps for Multistate Outbreak of Salmonella Poona Infections Linked to Imported Cucumbers](http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/poona-09-15/map.html) * [Statement from Andrew and Williamson on Cucumber Recall](http://www.andrew-williamson.com/About_Us/Recall_2.html) * Where is [Baja California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baja_California)? * [Physicochemical factors affecting the rapid bactericidal efficacy of the phenolic antibacterial triclosan](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18494867) * [David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell](https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/david-and-goliath/id599651578?mt=11) * [The Cringing Point on kung fu grippe](http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/205874392/surprise-surprise) * [Antibacterial soap has poor killing power](http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2015/09/antibacterial-soap-triclosan-has-poor-killing-power), sort of. * [Health officials investigating Salmonella cases linked to Chipotle restaurants in Minnesota](http://barfblog.com/2015/09/45-sick-health-officials-investigating-salmonella-cases-linked-to-chipotle-restaurants-in-minnesota/) * [Chipotle is the target of a brutal new attack ad](http://www.businessinsider.com/chipotle-is-the-target-of-a-brutal-new-attack-ad-2015-9) * What is the [Center for Consumer Freedom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom), via Wikipedia (never wrong) * [Audits and inspections are never enough: A critique to enhance food safety](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0956713512004409) * [Health department inspection criteria more likely to be associated with outbreak restaurants in Minnesota](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23127710) * [Scientists Create Vomiting Machine To Learn How Norovirus Spreads](http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/08/19/432770292/scientists-create-vomiting-machine-to-learn-how-norovirus-spreads) * [Aerosolization of a Human Norovirus Surrogate, Bacteriophage MS2, during Simulated Vomiting](s) * [Evidence for airborne transmission of Norwalk-like virus (NLV) in a hotel restaurant](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10982072) * [Krispy Kreme Challenge | 2400 Calories, 12 Doughnuts, 5 Miles, 1 Hour](http://www.krispykremechallenge.com/), then barf * [The origins of the term 86](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)) * The very lovely [Good Lovelies](http://www.goodlovelies.com/)

Ben and Don host a special guest, Dan Benjamin, podcasting pioneer and founder of 5by5, the inspiration for Food Safety Talk. After sharing what they were eating (because that makes for a good podcast) and Ben and Don tell the Food Safety Talk origin story about Episode Zero as part of the IAFP 100 year anniversary StoryCorps project. The guys talk with Dan about the podcast content niche, who the community of listeners are (both inside and outside the food safety world). The conversation moves into how Don is food safety expert to the podcasting stars and the guys talk about some of the risk assessment questions Dan and Haddie text Don that usually start with ‘Can she eat this?' The discussion goes into kids getting sick, spurred by Dan’s children coming home with gastro illnesses. Don and Ben each have stories about taking care of vomiting children. The guys talk about Immunity, resistance and probabilities of feces being positive, transfer and introduction into the body. Don describes how risk modeling calculations work taking all the factors into account. Dan tells an analogous story about immunity and his grandfather’s metallurgy job. The guys use a hypothetical situation of a child projectile vomiting into someones mouth to help explain acquired immunity and vaccinations. Dan’s child illness discussion pushes the guys into CDC’s Infection control guidelines and restaurant food handlers and glove use. Dan tells a detailed story of his son’s vomiting event which includes norovirus, rotavirus, oatmeal, sink disposal, aerosolization, infection control, clean-up and incubation. A norovirus outbreak at Chipotle becomes a topic and the guys talk about brand impacts of an outbreak. The hygiene hypothesis makes an appearance as does brain eating amoebas. Dan describes Ben as the jerky police which goes back to an interview Ben did on 5by5 where they talked about risks associated with drying beef without heat treating. Dan gives hints on his super special recipe. The guys talk dehydrating manufacturers instructions (which may or may not be validated), water activity, Shigatoxin-producing E. coil and marinades. Don and Ben come up with a plan for a jerky how-to podcast and website fusing some of the validation studies (including one from our friends Harrison and Harrison).

The podcast starts (as it often does) with a discussion of music, and today it’s jazz and rap. From there it moves to podcasts, then back to music, specifically the Violent Femmes concert Ben attended with his family. The transition to Food Science talk begins with a discussion of improvisation during public presentations, and the Merlin Mann © style of presentation. The conversation switches to salt rising bread made via the action of lactic acid bacteria and Clostridium perfringens and peer-reviewed research on the same. From there the discussion moves to Apple Watch, Pandora, Spotify, Focus at Will (a streaming service purported to aid concentration), Ben’s new MacBook, and a rapper that recorded an entire album in an Apple store. Finally, the conversation returns to food safety and the Stella & Chewy pet food Listeria monocytogenes recall in particular, and the microbial risks posed by pet food in general as evidenced by the peer-reviewed literature. The pet food topic prompts a discussion of the One Health Approach, and the importance of collaboration to solve food safety issues for humans and animals. The show ends with a pop culture recommendation of The Hobbit for Haitian graduate students or anyone else interested in second breakfast.

Food Safety Talk, a bi-weekly podcast for food safety nerds, by food safety nerds. The podcast is hosted by Ben Chapman and barfblog contributor Don Schaffner, Extension Specialist in Food Science and Professor at Rutgers University. Every two weeks or so, Ben and Don get together virtually and talk for about an hour. They talk about what’s on their minds or in the news regarding food safety, and popular culture. They strive to be relevant, funny and informative — sometimes they succeed. You can download the audio recordings right from the website, or subscribe using iTunes. After establishing that Joni Mitchell is not dead and Nova Scotia is New Scotland the guys jump into food safety of microgreens. There is a wide range of microgreens available. One microgreen company Fresh Origins describes over 400 different types of greens products and has a cursory mention food safety on their website. The guys attempt to clarify the confusing world of sprouts, microgreens, and hydroponic techniques. There is a difference between sprouts and microgreens; Sprouts are sprouted seeds whereas microgreens are often sprouted once and then harvested repeatedly. There are also many different hydroponic designs where plants are rooted in a non-soil substrate and fed by circulated nutrient containing water. Hydroponic production can be done safely but does not guarantee safe food. A lot of circulating nutrient rich water allows bacteria to grow and move around. As with sprouts, the seeds used for microgreens combined with the growing conditions, does create risk of pathogen growth as described in this paper (STEC survival in microgreens). The guys talk Listeria in produce and the challenges of risk assessments. Don is going to a Produce Safety policy conference where he will give a talk on assessing public health risk for product associated Listeria monocytogenes exposure. A 2003 risk assessment ranked Listeria in produce as low risk however produce recently affected by listeria are caramel apples, cantaloupe, and stone fruit and this shows that risk assessments can become outdated. New information is always becoming available, for example, Listeria growth on the outside of cantaloupe at room temperature. The data is also getting more applicable as researchers now appreciate the importance of using relevant strains. Ben and Don discuss consumer recommendations lagging behind food safety science. For example the California Cantaloupe Advisory Board a ‘sliced melon should be stored in the refrigerator until it is ready to be eaten’ while data support a recommendation more similar to deli meats. Something like: if you don’t know your refrigerator’s temperature, eat deli meats and sliced cantaloupe within 2 days; if you know it holds food below 41F, you have 4 days. Ben and Don talked about visiting Austin and the 5by5 studios. And if you are in Texas try to eat at Torchy’s tacos. The guys talk about food retail and Ben gets on a rant about how when people talk about food safety culture they don’t quite get it. Ben describes a frustrating situation he encountered at a food safety meeting: food safety nerds reporting that decision makers respond to perceived risks more strongly than public health risks. Like one retailer spending more resources on hairnets than norovirus control because hair is what their CEO perceives as an issue.