Big Hormone Enneagram

Deserted by the others, the two lone swordsmen continued into the abyss of the unknown. With only memories of forgotten ancient texts to guide them. These are their stories. — (5:25) The role of cultural differences in the expression of type / confrontational blunt 9s from other cultures — (12:20) How our early life experiences and environment create an unexpected relationship with certain instincts / Emeka and food — (22:01) Digging up John’s leftover concept of each instinct having a close vs distant optimal distance — (28:28) The difference between 9s merging and sexual instinct merging / instinctual dynamics in relationships — (36:45) Wild topic switch to social-contextual dynamics in dating / race as an overlooked significant contextual layer / female vs male gaze — (43:40) Most people are making sexual choices with social reasons — (50:49) John’s ‘effortlessly masculine’ and Emeka’s black artist with masc/fem interplay — (56:10) When we feel safe those optimal distance polarities dissolve Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their now 6-part class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at seeing types more clearly. Watch recent classes on the White Lotus, Margot Robbie, Jim Morrison. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/ Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Part 2 baby. — (1:39) The grounded reality of this cult vs the ridiculousness of Holy Hell — (7:45) We’re all vulnerable to sources of idealized parenting — (19:25) The school was for outcasts primed to fall for a parental manipulator — (28:35) 9’s attaching to a story as a form of maintaining psychological comfort — (31:34) We should watch Holy Hell and Wild Country — (39:08) Applications to become part-time BHE slaves are now open Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their now 6-part class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at seeing types more clearly. Watch recent classes on the White Lotus, the Bermuda trifix, Jim Morrison. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/ Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Watch Stolen Youth on Hulu and get into this. — (5:13) Larry is an 8w9 862 Wouldn’t Hurt a Fly — (9:18) What’s so compelling about a type like Larry? — (13:00) The government and military as social hooks used to manipulate victims — (24:43) Setting an attachment landscape and opening the door for alternative realities with ‘taking responsibility’ — (29:53) 8’s leveraging victimhood and why Larry is sp/so — (44:29) Shaping reality with relentless alternative memories / attachment as a survival strategy — (48:39) The seductive pull of a being given a scapegoat for why your life sucks / rejection creating parental dynamics Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their now 6-part class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at seeing types more clearly. Watch recent classes on the White Lotus, the Bermuda trifix, the DJ trifix. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/ Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Check out our prior episodes on objective personality if you haven’t already. John - Ti/Se-CS/P(B) / Alexandra - Se/Fe-PB/S(C) / David - Te/Se-PC/S(B) / Emeka - Se/Te-PC/B(S). Watch Stolen Youth on Hulu for next week. — (5:59) 3 Playas vs John’s Play-last / What is Blast — (10:28) Play is co-creative real time learning / PC vs PB — (14:51) Blindspots and tidalwaves / Emeka’s Sleep-last — (17:46) Alexandra and John’s Play vs Play-last relationship dynamic / Emeka’s Play and De as a reclusive 8 rejection type — (21:00) Hopefully eventually the enneagram gets integrated into OPS — (24:04) The mental style of OPS vs the enneagram and typing objectively — (28:59) Consume and Sleep last tidalwaves Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their now 6-part class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at typing people and seeing types more clearly. Watch recent classes on Austin Butler, the Bermuda trifix, the DJ trifix. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/ Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Cont’d. — (6:02) This is now a 9 enabling self-pres podcast — (11:26) Become a hope machine / lift some weights — (18:14) We should do an episode on the self-pres love language — (21:11) John’s sleep vs Emeka’s sleep last as recluse cavemen — (26:29) Tackling big life topics through the lens of the enneagram / most relationship advice is missing the thing it most needs - the sexual instinct — (31:15) Finding your attraction orientation apart from what’s generally accepted as attractive Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their now 6-part class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Refining your intuition of the types to see them more clearly and become a more accurate typer. Watch recent classes on 3 vs 6, 3 vs 9, the DJ trifix special. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/daa Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re talking about love, relationships, and sex again. — (4:34) Friendship jealousy and what causes it — (13:38) The tension between expecting too much from a romantic partner and not expecting much at all — (17:05) Western isolation puts more pressure on romantic relationships — (20:25) The need to be seen in a relationship and what it means — (24:26) All About Love by bell hooks defines love as an action to prioritize the other’s well-being — (32:06) We can only love or see an other to the degree that we can see and care for our own well-being — (38:44) Putting yourself aside for an other vs not being a doormat or codependent simp — (44:38) Self-love and knowing how to set boundaries is an important aspect of loving an other — (49:30) Learning to date and talk to the potential sex partners Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the language of the enneagram to see types more clearly. Watch recent classes on 3 vs 6, 3 vs 9, the DJ trifix special. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/daa Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Riffing and winging it. — (4:25) Josh’s new object relational theory of the centers and the superego triad — (10:20) The hornevians might explain why certain types are next to each other — (11:18) 8w9 vs 8w7 centralized vs decentralized leverage — (17:06) 1w9 vs 1w2 — (30:25) 4w5/5w4 ephemeral self-invention — (44:00) The hell of the double hexad types — (47:43) Plans for more soul intercourse episodes Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the language of the enneagram and see types more clearly. Watch recent classes on Bo Burnham, 3 vs 6, and 3 vs 9. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/daa Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Haven’t done one of these in a while. Applications to join the cult of cream are open today. — (10:32) Someone had a lot to be sorry for — (11:28) Borderline personality disorder, suicide, and 4 / mental illness and enneagram types — (18:08) Our body impressions of the heart types — (26:07) Heart types are rare / why are most people 6 or 9 and why are 4s so rare? — (35:37) We’re the most unsuccessful cult leaders and grifters in existence / 49 reasons to join Alexandra’s cult of cream — (45:12) Object relational affect of the wings and how they work with the types that cross centers — (51:39) 5 rejection of exogenous orientation vs the remixing entertainment machine of 7 Check out Courtney’s enneagram offerings at her new site: https://www.courtneysmithconsulting.com/ Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the language of the enneagram through the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on Bo Burnham, 3 vs 6, and Meghan Markle. And get typed at https://www.enneagrammer.com/daa Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Picking up where we left off with Nancy’s homecoming. Then onwards to David and Alexandra. — (8:04) David’s shares a haunting dream he had after his mother’s death — (17:03) Kristen probes David for more and interprets what be might represented — (36:41) Alexandra shares a dream she had about bleeding middle fingers on subways — (41:27) Kristen draws the connections between middle fingers and saturn; which is associated with austere standards and discernement To book Kristen for a dream interpretation you can reach her at:https://www.inkstoryrebel.com/services-1 Check out Courtney’s enneagram offerings at her new site: https://www.courtneysmithconsulting.com/ Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the language of the enneagram through typing. Watch recent classes on Bo Burnham, Fiona Apple, Dolly Parton. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re not crying you’re crying. Kristen is back to psychoanalyze our dreams and traumas. Starting with Nancy. — (10:37) 9s sleeping all the damn time / hit up the Loveline if you’re an insomniac 9 — (15:38) Nancy tells us the story of her traumatic disaster move to the Netherlands — (30:34) And how it directly relates to a juicy dream she had about a beheading — (41:01) Kristen interprets the competency themes in Nancy’s dream — (50:27) And being confronted with the feeling and disappointment of failure as a 3 To book Kristen for a dream interpretation you can reach her at:https://www.inkstoryrebel.com/services-1 Check out Courtney’s enneagram offerings at her new site: https://www.courtneysmithconsulting.com/ Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on John Malkovich, Fiona Apple, Dolly Parton. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about dreams and/or 9s sleeping at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

— (3:16) Nancy shares a dream with a recurring theme / what the unconscious is trying to tell us with a repeated dream — (10:59) Compensatory dreams / John’s social last dreams and parasocial drama — (23:32) Working with Kristen on dreams — (31:39) Exploring how dreams are shaped by instincts — (35:43) Alexandra’s persistent dreams about women To book Kristen for a dream interpretation you can reach her at:https://www.inkstoryrebel.com/services-1 Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming more fluent in the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on John Malkovich, Fiona Apple, Dolly Parton. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Our dreamlord Kristen is with us this week to discuss exploring the corridors of our nocturnal psychodramas. — (9:48) How Kristen got into dream interpretation — (14:52) Dreams are a way to open up a dialogue with your unconscious and push the ego off its pedestal — (19:14) Collective projecting from a lack of a transcendent function — (21:48) What does dreamwork add to understanding your enneagram type? — (26:41) Every person or object in a dream is an aspect of yourself — (28:13) Emeka’s psychic dreams and how those work / John’s mundane counter-4 dreams — (37:55) The significance of recurring dreams — (40:51) How Kristen stays grounded as a 9 while navigating the fluid interpretation of dreams — (43:46) Practices to begin relating more to your dreams To book Kristen for a dream interpretation you can reach her at: https://www.inkstoryrebel.com/services-1 Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram offerings at her new website saturnruled9.com Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming fluent in the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on instinct fashion aesthetics, Khabib, John Malkovich. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Josh is back to unveil his profound new model of the centers and object relations from a point of view of development. This is major. — (13:30) Josh explains how his variant model of object relations and the centers came about / issues with the protecting and nurturing object relational framework — (20:03) Ken Wilber’s holonic theory of consciousness and the centers as a sequence of development through sensation, gaze, and symbol — (27:48) Object relational affects are oriented to the milieu of each center / frustrated, rejected, or attached to sensory impact, gaze & attention, or symbol & orientation — (28:48) How this framework makes the centers and trifix clearer and easier to work with — (34:23) Josh goes through each object relational affect in the body center — (57:10) How we hold others in symbolic space is evaluated from the perspective of our core center and object relational affect / John & Emeka and judging Josh from gaze & sensory — (1:16:45) David and John’s frustration and fighting people online Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class which starts this week — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming fluent in the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on instinct fashion aesthetics, Khabib, John Malkovich. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message Art by Laura Tempest Zakroff

Join us on our annual end of year drunk pod looking back on 2022’s ups and downs. — (7:13) Parasocial discord and drawing lines in the sand — (15:23) Looking back on the vibe of 2022 and the growth of the pod — (23:38) The year of Emeka slowing down / DG’s hot nerd creative updates — (32:44) Revisiting Alejohndra conscious sex talk and the sexual instinct — (50:51) Nancy getting married and moving halfway across the globe — (59:26) Favorite episodes and ideas for 2023 — (1:07:04) John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school — (1:16:59) Play vs play last OPS talk — (1:30:44) Last call for 2023 plans Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/first-offering Don’t miss Emeka and John on the ‘best of’ Enneagram Global Summit (we make cheese when you sign up) shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22a23961/a23961 shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22JohnL/JohnL Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Becoming experientially fluent with the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on the Liver King, Assertive 9s, Khabib. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Picking up where we left off with Josh and Spiral Dynamics. — (1:38) The conflict of what it means to help people with the enneagram from the worldviews of different stages of development — (7:33) Yellow distinguishes between and integrates interior subjectivity and external objectivity — (12:53) DG’s 7-fix ain’t got time for yellow — (16:31) Yellow makes finer distinctions beyond Green’s assumption that everyone’s whole — (20:43) The limitations of Yellow is the insistence that everyone can develop — (25:57) Teal has an awareness of construct as a vantage point for meaning making — (29:55) The way to develop is to reach the limits of your level’s framework — (32:24) Is DAA an example of a yellow or orange holding of the enneagram? — (37:42) Assertive types seeming orange and the need to integrate both an inner and outer orientation — (42:03) The value system of each type’s fixation evolves through the developmental stages Check out John and Josh’s new formal enneagram school. And sign up for their first class — A Developmental View of the Centers at https://www.theenneagramschool.com/ Don’t miss Emeka and John on the ‘best of’ Enneagram Global Summit (we make some cheese when you sign up) shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22a23961/a23961 shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22JohnL/JohnL Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram thru the practice of typing. Watch recent classes on the Liver King, Assertive 9s, Khabib. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

BHE 135 - THE DEVELOPMENTAL ENNEAGRAM [PART I] - Josh Lavine Josh of What It’s Like To Be You is hangin with us this week. He broke down how the enneagram is missing and needs a developmental* model (*Not Riso’s Levels of Development) — (14:44) Our understanding of the enneagram evolves with the development of an introspective eye — (16:51) The ability to see oneself is a developmental achievement / words have different interpretations and meanings for each stage of development — (19:50) Riso’s levels of development is a measure of identification and awakening. It’s not a vertical developmental model — (21:33) Ken Wilber’s theory of everything and the difference between waking and growing up / the enneagram has a waking up framework but needs a growing up framework — (24:12) An example of what development is and how the rational-objective stage might react to the enneagram — (27:46) Spiral dynamics orange to green is a shift from the rational-objective to the personally subjective and the inner world — (30:12) Growing is an expanding sense of our capacity for meaning making — (34:54) How a lack of understanding of this developmental view limits the enneagram and the discourse around it — (40:15) The enneagram world is characterized by green empathy / the shadow and blindspots of green — (47:57) At green everyone’s subjectivity is equal and valid / Green fails to realize that subjectivity and the ability to see oneself is unequal and can grow Check out thirst demons Emeka and John on the ‘best of’ Enneagram Global Summit (we make a little cheese when you sign up) shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22a23961/a23961 shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22JohnL/JohnL Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble and attend his weekly study group: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T https://www.johnluckovich.com/the-study-group DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on the Liver King, Heady 9s vs Gutty 6s, Watch our end of the year special. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Niklas joins us to dive more into the inner workings of our favorite type. — (11:22) Niklas’ journey realizing and seeing his 2 rejection type structure — (14:18) Emptiness is what ignites the 2’s rejection dynamic — (17:38) The irritating penetration of 2 rejection / what’s behind the desperation of the possession dynamic — (21:09) The all or nothing of rejection prevents seeing the dynamic / the instinctual blindspot as the gateway — (27:54) The 2 and 8 oppositional relationship to life force / contending with the rejected shadow self — (37:59) 2’s shutdown their autonomy to protect the relationship — (41:43) The emotional landscape of 2 is tethered to the dynamic working with the other — (48:58) 8’s shutting down the dynamic because of inability to register hurt and nuanced sensitivity — (57:49) Niklas’ experience of the fixation of flattery and ingratiation — (1:04:06) Emptiness and Almaas’ theory of holes / contending with the uncertainty Check out ya boyz Emeka and John on the ‘best of’ Enneagram Global Summit (we make some money when you sign up) shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22a23961/a23961 shiftnetwork.infusionsoft.com/go/egs22JohnL/JohnL Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on the Liver King, MC Ride, Competency types. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Our favorite type finally got winged. — (1:27) How much does the center of the wing play a role? — (22:21) Contrasting the attachment 3-wing vs the frustration 1-wing — (27:12) 2w3 as a mouth and emoji queen — (38:09) Justifying Pride with the double image of 2w3 vs the superego of 2w1 / the assertiveness of 2s — (42:37) Ego boundaries of assertive, withdrawn, and superego types / why superego types can seem very assertive at times — (46:59) How the wings support the emotional leverage of 2 — (51:27) Frustration as a singular ideal makes 2w1 far more specific in their offering and unadaptable — (59:19) Your back pocket type was your past life type — (1:03:06) There’s a lot of energy around 2 because we’re all starving for love Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on assertive 9s, MC Ride, Competency types. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Coming to you live from a brooklyn bedroom in the zone. A round the chat circle audience q&a pod. Watch the video pod here: https://youtu.be/cXMTPc5YIHo — (1:27) Awkward soc-last attempts to kickstart the pod — (9:50) How everyone got into the enneagram and what it has done for them? — (11:58) Celia, a 6w5 middle manager, mistyped as an 8 before finding us — (13:14) Sarah, a social 9 DJ, found the enneagram through evangelical christian content and mistyped as a 4 — (17:44) Kristen, a social 9 Bermuda, mistyped as a 5 before finding the pod and turning her life upside down — (23:24) Gray, social 3 Kyle, set her life on fire after encountering herself in a zone — (27:56) Josh, a social 3 Bermuda and host of What It’s Like To Be You, gives us his podcast intro voice — (30:40) Michaela, a social 3 DJ, found us through instagram memes — (33:10) Sammy, a self-pres 9 Hateful Ghost, was upset to find out she was triple withdrawn — (41:03) Kaisa, a sexual Flatline 9, came all the way from Finland to go deep with us — (47:12) How do attachment types stop caring? — (50:36) Happy Birthday to StJUCE — (53:12) Alexandra and others give their take on integrating the psychological mixing of the sexual instinct (audio issues abound) Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on assertive 9s, Anton Lavey, Reactive types. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Happy Halloween. Send in your questions and topics for the upcoming live pod. — (3:38) Dahmer as an attachment type and death obsessed soc-blind — (10:49) The hot serial killer phenomenon / serial killers as an aesthetic — (15:31) The disconnection from death in the west as a lived experience creates a shadow death obsession — (25:44) The social and type dynamics that allowed Dahmer to get away with it for so long — (26:22) Dahmer fandom and serial killer fixation as an example of our collective lack of relationship to death — (34:41) Alcoholism as self-medication for loneliness and social isolation — (43:17) We should explore how to make and keep friends / We’re lonely because we’re disconnected from ourselves — (49:18) Dahmer’s attachment to disconnect and dissociation from reality — (55:07) Dahmer had a growing inner impulse centered around autonomy / everything happening to the 9 Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become more fluent in the language of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on 3-wings, Anton Lavey, Reactive types. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Picking up where we left off with Julie of Riverbend Coaching and the archetypal feminine. — (6:32) Julie starts us off with a short guided practice to bring us back into the space of the feminine — (10:14) People are not in touch with their responses from the pelvis and genitals — (12:10) The head center through the lens of the feminine — (17:01) The panoramic vision of the feminine head center makes us aware of the whole and the emerging facets of the truth of what’s happening now — (21:00) The multi-dimensional faceted learning approach we’ve brought to the enneagram has a feminine contextual thinking style — (26:22) Dahmer fandom and serial killer fixation as an example of our collective lack of relationship to death — (30:54) The bright feminine archetype of 2 vs the dark and fierce feminine archetypes of 4 and 8 — (41:28) We have a need to integrate ferocity in the feminine as an antidote to projecting that energy out of oneself — (44:10) The allowing and receiving of the feminine is an engaged receptivity, not a passive receptivity — (46:12) Julie, Nancy, and Alexandra’s experiences of being women in a culture lacking relationship to the feminine — (53:53) Dealing with the internalized misogyny of “I’m just a girl” — (1:03:11) Masculine vs feminine forms of practice Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Learn how to see with the eyes of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on 3-wings, rejection fixes, wings vs fixes. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Julie of Riverbend Coaching is here with us to explore the archetypal feminine. — (6:48) Why and how Julie connected the archetypal feminine and the enneagram’s 3 centers — (9:04) The feminine in the body center — sacred form / the fertile matrix — (14:45) The feminine in nature is an uncontrollable force that gives life — (15:24) Could the goddesses be connected to the types? — (19:59) The patriarchy compartmentalizes and the goddesses can both be sexual and nurturing — (21:21) Developing the feminine: Being more in your senses and open to the experience / welcome the shadow / don’t seek certainty or stasis — (25:42) The patriarchy perpetuates a lack of being in touch with oneself and the natural cycles of the feminine — (33:19) The feminine invites you into the beauty of life in all the senses and the creation of new things — (36:52) How a linear directional point of view is applied to inner work vs the unfolding nature of allowing inner work to envelope your consciousness — (41:41) A short guided breath practice to experience the masculine and feminine — (49:41) Abundant heart — to be able to be fully with whatever’s happening and the threshold of what’s next — (54:30) There’s no growth in an unwounded life / the feminine welcomes the vulnerability of being wounded — (1:03:24) When we allow ourselves to experience grief it moves and ends up connecting us to what we love Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Learn how to see with the eyes of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on 9 and 6 wings, dark 7s, rejection fixes. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Yes, Dive in. — (1:40) Sx types and Sx middles are most prone to delude themselves into thinking they’re going for what they’re passionate about or self-transforming — (7:18) Social clout chasers with no genuine connection — (8:51) The psychological penetration of sexual can be used to get cheap ego hits that avoids any risk and self-transformation — (12:05) Discussions in John’s study group on using the instinct for ego vs using it to support the real needs of the body and inner life — (14:32) It’s not just attachment types that get into relationships for the wrong reasons — (20:04) You’re not missing out on what you think you are without sexual in the stacking — (24:31) It’s through our core type and dominant instinct that we approach the needs of our other instincts and centers — (27:02) There is no compatibility formula that works as a replacement for two humans meeting each other / how each instinct uses templates to create orientation to others — (35:06) We settle for nonsense because it’s difficult to risk having nothing while expecting more — (39:53) Separating eros from the sexual instinct / idealizing types is like looking through garbage to find something real — (59:06) You’re lame because you’re lame. Not because of your type, trifix, or instincts. — (1:05:06) People quitting the enneagram when their ego fixes are taken away / #nota4 filtering out those using the enneagram to validate their ego — (1:10:12) Fine tuned observation of the self and others is what a group centered on typing encourages / self-observation and misery as the gateway for self-work and change Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Learn how to see with the dark arts of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on 9 and 6 wings, dark 7s, rejection fixes. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Picking up where we left off with Courtney and rejection. — (1:46) The protection from vulnerability and transactional nature of relationships is true for all of us / But it’s more true for rejection types — (3:24) The different flavors of separateness and intensity of the rejection types — (8:21) How John and Courtney experience rejection in relationships as frustration and attachment types — (14:21) How rejection types can redefine their self-concept in less narrow terms by sensing the automatic wall in the body — (20:20) How to distinguish the not there-ness of rejection vs the not being there of 9 — (23:20) Rejection type possession sweeps you up with intensity because it has such a small aperture of personhood — (27:38) How rejection types can work with the sensation of the wall and widen their sense of personhood — (34:34) Rejection types need to revisit vulnerable parts they have cut off in order to avoid becoming more fractional as time goes on — (41:08) Niklas’ interview with Josh and getting a 2’s perspective on rejection Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become fluent in the dark arts of the enneagram. Watch recent typing classes on 9 and 6 wings, Kurt Cobain, Courtney Love. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Courtney is with us this week to work her magic on rejection. — (4:43) Courtney is here to bring the pain and hear rejection types suffer / What’s been opening up for Emeka? — (8:49) How rejection types set the dynamic up so it doesn’t work — a pre-rejection frame — (13:10) Courtney gives a recap/overview of object relations and why it matters — (15:02) Our O.R. is a blueprint for how relationships need to be setup in order for us to feel like a person — (16:24) What separates rejection from attachment & frustration is the cutting off from awareness of the original wound and preemptively shutting down the possibility of being touched there again — (22:44) You reject something by over-affirming and leaning into its opposite — (31:19) 8s seek out vulnerability and heartfulness in others not because it activates their heart, but because the dynamic reinforces what the 8 structure is already reinforcing — (36:29) Emeka realizing that as long as attraction is framed within the experience he’s activating then rejection can’t happen on the basis of heart to heart connection — (40:02) The rejection types are aware that their definition of personhood is a fraction of whole and therefore feel separate and unable to meet others fully — (42:22) Why do rejection types seek out relationships? — (47:36) Aloneness as a baseline for rejection types Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Become fluent in the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on 9 and 6 wings, Kurt Cobain, Courtney Love. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re bringing the pain to rejection types. How penetrating the other becomes the replacement for connection. — (2:08) The penetration and leverage of rejection is a possession of the other — (4:25) Riffing on what sexual 8 possession really means / all the rejection types are doing possession through their centers — (11:06) Possessing the other becomes a replacement for the connection the rejection type assumes is not on the table — (13:46) Callback to soul intercourse and how that had a parental rejection dynamic for Emeka — (16:51) Rejection types are tracking how much it matters to you / tiers of penetration — (20:36) Rejection types needing someone who can get through their wall but tending to seek out those who allow them to reinforce a possession dynamic — (25:47) An attraction can feel really strong only because it’s reinforcing the type structure’s ego agenda — (29:09) 8s are forceful because they’re expanding on potent leverage points to rewrite an experience of something — (34:24) Rejection possession dynamics in Inception and There Will Be Blood — (42:04) How rejection types can let go of the story of being a cut off fractional person — (49:03) Language around instinctual approaches differing from the point of view of the centers / sexual instinct and competition — (51:33) Rejection types redefining the game and doubling down on it until the other doesn’t feel like they’re in a full relationship — (54:58) The insecurity of frustration types in getting their needs met — (58:19) The challenges of attaching to a rejection type / the assumption of being on the same page is what ensures a disconnect continues to arise and we adapt to each other Sign up for free Fourth Way Gurdjieff talks organized by John’s group taking place on the 13th & 14th of September 7PM ET: https://gurdjieffbennett.org/joining-new-groups/ Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on Andrew Tate, Kurt Cobain, Anjelica Huston. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Ok, fine. Wings are back with Alexandra. For now. — (1:47) Insights from Josh’s type 1 interview with Alex /Putting the gut back into the 1’s frustration — (8:15) Burning frustration and 9 vs 4 — (20:48) 1s are very rare / the distribution of types we’ve typed — (25:33) 1w9 keeps the ideal more in the abstract / 1w2 brings the ideal into people’s hearts and out into the world — (30:39) 1w2 is more of the stereotypical ‘reformer’ than 1w9 because of the rejection and pride of 2 — (36:49) 1w2s are more singular in their motives, while 1w9s tap into the universal abstract of what the collective needs — (40:09) 1w9s lean into a symbolic perfection with the beingness of double gut / 1w2s seek perfection via implementing useful offerings that reflect an image center identity — (46:38) The leverage point orientation of the 2-wing means 1w2s seek to reform things with a singular dynamic changing initiative — (51:29) 1s gone wrong / 1s and 1-fixers dissociating with gut morality frustration — (53:11) All the gut types, including 1s, experience over-certainty in the body / John roasting the big dumb gut types — (1:00:20) 1s get themselves in trouble by doubling down on something right at the expense of the intelligence of the other centers Sign up for free Fourth Way Gurdjieff talks organized by John’s group taking place on the 13th & 14th of September 7PM ET: https://gurdjieffbennett.org/joining-new-groups/ Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on Andrew Tate, Kurt Cobain, Anjelica Huston. And get typed at enneagrammer.com 20% OFF -END OF SUMMER- DISCOUNT ON ALL ORDERS BEFORE SEPT 1ST:\/:USE CODE SMR22 DURING CHECKOUT Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re continuing our discussions on rejection. This time with the Enneagrammer/DAA typing team riffing on some new insights. — (6:22) Lever points and what being indispensable means to a rejection type / Joseph’s impression of feeling used by rejection types — (9:47) Emeka’s analogy of rejection types as limited persons born with missing limbs — (15:38) Frustration is in relation/reaction to an ideal, while rejection assumes a baseline of being cut off — (17:35) Rejection types see their offerings as transactional resources and indispensable commodities — (22:29) What’s necessary to get 8s is to understand how they control potent leverage points from the perspective of their dominant instinct / Emeka and enneagram typing as a potent leverage point — (26:25) What is the rejection affect and how are we noticing it in our typings? — (29:54) The difference between how a 5 is absent vs a 9 being absent — (31:22) How the cut-offness of rejection shows up in 2s — (35:40) Something is indispensable when it’s a necessary point in a process / the immovable sandbox metaphor — (39:57) Rejection types are measuring and testing to what degree their offerings are necessary to you — (44:32) The implications of not having rejection at play for Joseph and David — (56:06) Rejection types like Andrew Tate and Robert Greene gaining popularity by occupying power vacuums in the public consciousness Sign up for free Fourth Way Gurdjieff talks organized by John’s group taking place on the 13th & 14th of September 7PM ET: https://gurdjieffbennett.org/joining-new-groups/ Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on Andrew Tate, Robert Greene, Marina Abramovic. And get typed at enneagrammer.com 20% OFF -END OF SUMMER- DISCOUNT ON ALL ORDERS BEFORE SEPT 1ST:\/:USE CODE SMR22 DURING CHECKOUT Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re back to explore more missing pieces blindspots. But first, Sophie joins us to discuss upcoming Fourth Way talks organized by her and John’s group. — (29:43) Exploring various polarities and opposites — (36:43) John’s body last vs Alexandra’s heart last — (41:07) The difference between using a polarity to grow vs using someone to outsource the needs of a missing piece — (47:34) You must identify and become aware of the polarities at work in you so you can integrate those blindspots rather than outsourcing them externally — (51:38) Couples make unconscious agreements to maintain their opposite qualities to ensure they don’t have to integrate those blindspots — (58:26) The potency of an attraction is determined by the degrees of polarity — (1:03:25) Rejection types only making contact through one way parental dynamics and roles — (1:07:04) Emeka’s rejection sense of being untouchable as an 8 Sign up for free Fourth Way Gurdjieff talks organized by John’s group taking place on the 13th & 14th of September 7PM ET: https://gurdjieffbennett.org/joining-new-groups/ Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on Andrew Tate, Robert Greene, Marina Abramovic. And get typed at enneagrammer.com 20% OFF -END OF SUMMER- DISCOUNT ON ALL ORDERS BEFORE SEPT 1ST:\/:USE CODE SMR22 DURING CHECKOUT Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re penetrating the untouchables this week. Strap in for a meandering dive into what rejection types are really up to. — (16:32) The rejection separateness in sexual 8 display /Rejection types having a fractional sense of personhood — (20:52) The micro-disengagements of rejection types / the intellectual intensity of 5s — (27:17) DG’s instinct overlap schema for each rejection type — (30:17) The psychic structure of rejection is shaped by penetration / why 2’s heart penetration feels so potent — (37:06) Self-pres independence vs rejection separateness / rejection dynamics in our families — (46:42) The cutting off of rejection is a retroactive amputation — (57:32) How micro-disengagement shows up in 2s — (1:05:48) Rejection types engage with controlling power dynamics — (1:18:54) Attachment has the most hope, frustration has medium hope, rejection sees hope as an extreme vulnurability Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Learn how to see and identify types in classes on Andrew Tate, Kurt Cobain, Marina Abramovic. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Wings are back with Alexandra. This week, the wings at the crown. — (11:44) Overview riffs on nine wings / 9w8 is meaty — (18:01) The 8-wing gives 9w8 permission to be more dissociated and messy — (28:13) 9w1 has tension giving itself permission to relax / sensitive refined relaxation — (31:10) 9w1’s often mistype as 4 because of their frustrated refinement and fussiness — (36:00) The archetypal role of 9w8 and how rejection reinforces their 9ness / 9w8s are not angrier than 9w1s — (39:40) 9w1 tone police vs 9w8 cutting off — (42:53) 1-wing is idealist and philosophical — (46:54) How frustration and rejection facilitates attachment to disconnect — (57:33) The micro-aggressive warfare of 9w1 vs the provocative push of 9w8 If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Learn how to see and identify types in classes on Andrew Tate, Robert Greene, Marina Abramovic. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

The instinctual blindspot ain’t the only one you need to integrate. We explore how certain types, centers, and qualities that are missing in us become shadows. — (6:42) How we’re attracted to those that embody typological qualities we’re missing — (11:53) We’re drawn to and most affected by our last weakest center — (15:40) Unaddressed blindspots become unconscious demons and quarter life - midlife crisis — (23:40) Exploring the types that are missing for us / Emeka’s missing superego and 9 — (24:59) Nancy and DG are missing the rejection types 2/5/8 — (31:10) Extreme polarity is very attractive but unstable — (35:56) What missing all the rejection types means for Nancy and David If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Discover the dark arts of enneagram typing. Watch recent typing classes on Andrew Tate, Robert Greene, Marina Abramovic. And get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We haven’t deserted y’all. Coming live to you from Brooklyn, NY answering your AMA questions. And we’ve got a small live audience with us. Link to the live video on Youtube: https://youtu.be/plnJ9a1pFUA — (8:30) We’re all mistyped — (9:55) Yes, you’re the toxic one if your 9 has checked out — (11:58) Self-pres 9s carrying the weight of the world — (15:44) 9s being mean and dramatic but nice in different contexts — (19:16) Hexad types with attachment fixes and vice versa — (29:13) Josh and the What It’s Like To Be You pod / what it's like to interview attachment vs hexad types — (37:28) Emeka talks to himself when he’s talking to you — (41:06) Gray’s assertive attachment approach to get bonding and connection — (47:12) How Emeka experiences chemistry when he’s not sexually attracted — (50:44) How Alexandra experiences chemistry as a sx-blind — (55:52) John’s a 2 and why people don’t understand heart types If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Because anything less than accurate is intolerable. Watch recent typing classes on Derren Brown, Robert Greene, and get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We’re back at it again with wings, starting with the most lovable 8s. — (18:14) Intro to the body center and its purpose — (20:28) 8w9 is the godfather/godmother — (27:30) 8w9’s attachment wing makes them more controlling and sensitive to disrespect — (32:23) Positive types fuel the immovable ego agendas of 8 and 1 — destruction and order — (35:31) The lovable perfection of 8w7 — (41:06) How to distinguish the idealization of 8w7’s frustation wing and 8w9’s positive attachment wing — (48:23) The extreme lengths a 9 might go to not do anything — (55:35) We’re doing a Q&A/AMA live pod next week / send in your questions If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Because anything less than accurate is intolerable. Watch recent typing classes on Derren Brown, Robert Greene, and get typed at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

We went off the deep end to explore the upside down hexagram triangle and David’s reflections between hexad and attachment. — (12:08) Recapping what 3/6/9 represent for humanity vs the hexagram triangle — (16:14) The hexagram triangle is the upside down of the 369 triangle — (18:06) DG’s reflections and how the hexad types types are born of the attachment types (3>7/8, 6>1/2, 9>4/5) — (26:33) The hexagram is out of sync with the cosmic flow — (27:16) The line from 9 to the space between 4/5 is the everything to the nothing — (30:04) John dives into the spheres of existence on the kabbalah / the tension between the everything and the nothing is time — (39:11) Hexad vs attachment is like contra vs synflow — a needed negative force — (44:50) Alexandra’s impressions of the 4/5 zone as a 9 — (50:38) Emeka and Nancy’s reflections on 3 vs 7/8 If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Because anything less than accurate is intolerable Watch recent typing classes on Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and more at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Birthday girl Alexandra CQ is here to bestow on us her insights on wings. Lots of food for thought. — (5:23) Misconceptions about wings from various schools of the enneagram — (9:00) Balanced wings aren’t a thing but you can sometimes access your other wing — (10:38) 8w9s are more attached to the position of control than 8w7s — (12:03) What happens with hexad types with attachment wings — (14:30) 7w6’s attachment wing makes them more relatable and conservative / Both 7-wings are reactive types — (19:53) Attachment types all have wings from different harmonics, while hexad type wings are of the same harmonic group — (21:58) How hexad gut types use their positive wings to justify pushing their agendas — (33:00) Hexad types with hexad wings are winged crossing over into the next center and doubled up on their hornevian groups (assertive, compliant, withdrawn) — (37:57) The hexagram vs the bermuda triangle — (48:00) Attachment types being conduits for the specified objections of their hexad wings — (53:03) Plans for episodes on rejection and frustration / frustration types having insecurity around their inadequate attempts to create the ideal If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Because anything less than accurate is intolerable Watch recent typing classes on Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and more at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

The Enneagrammer team explores why learning how to type is a must. — (5:00) Learning how to type is a requirement for applying the enneagram — (9:14) ‘Only you can type yourself’, as if you’re conscious of your *unconscious* motivations — (12:30) To use and apply the enneagram you have to first start with accurate observations of how it applies — (16:34) Typing is a practice of observing distinctions snapping into place and forming 3D architecture — (18:26) Use the inherent bias of your type’s lens to identify your own relationship to each type — (22:49) Every description you’ve ever read is a work-in-progress snapshot from the author’s lens and experience — (30:05) Learnings from our experience typing as a team / Getchu a typing buddy — (36:18) Observing and identifying type as dynamics vs type as identity — (39:04) The importance of typing fictional characters / typing is accurately matching concept with reality / new descriptions are discoveries pulling from reality back to concept — (45:14) Accurate typing is at the foundation for why our group is so nice and makes new discoveries — (48:41) How knowing how to type changes your dating experience / DG’s impressions on our accelerated growth the last few years — (53:11) How mind-blowing hexad vs attachment still is as a discovery If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T DAA — Because anything less than accurate is intolerable Watch recent typing classes on Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and more at enneagrammer.com Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Bouncing back into the swing of things with a light loveline. — (1:27) Riffing on the spiritual role of the enneagram and inner work in society — (9:06) New beginnings applying the discoveries from the last year — (20:44) Can the enneagram be used widely long term as a developmental tool? — (22:17) Reasons why it’s unlikely the enneagram undiluted will ever become a mainstream hit — (24:36) Sherwin williams paint and the commercialization of the enneagram — (28:55) How do we see someone relating to both hexad and attachment as a type 1? Can you be both? — (33:23) Type 1s aren’t about being good as much they’re about justifying an inner sense of how things should go — (39:05) Hexad types think they’re more adaptable than they actually are and attachment types think they’re more solid than they are — (42:34) Props and appreciation — (43:59) Ideas for next episodes -- Let us know what you’d like to hear more of If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Learn how to type with the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Watch recent typing classes on Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and more Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message

Allow us to reintroduce ourselves. Coming to you live from Nothingville, Virginia. For the first time, watch the video version of this episode on our youtube page: https://youtu.be/wk62CguaO8k — (2:11) Our response to the responses to the Ian Cron Episode — (7:25) Reintroducing ourselves as a group that’s both irreverent and centered on inner work — (11:25) The approaches to inner work you prefer are a reflection of your type’s point of view — (17:45) Our provocative style reflects our personalities and is a much needed contrast to the generally accepted beige enneagram culture — (21:38) American entitlement and expectation to be catered to and coddled is in direct conflict with the conscious suffering of inner work — (25:48) Addressing comments that we hate attachment types — (33:17) Alexandra, the only social type in our midst, contextualizes our group — (36:37) The personal dynamics behind why people are drawn in but feel conflicted about our style — (44:48) Curiosity and obsession with the enneagram is what generates the quality of content we produce — (47:59) Questions from the live audience — Can one’s own narcissism be leveraged for inner work? — (51:53) How do positive types learn from us without needing their own space? — (58:50) What aspect of the enneagram do you still find yourselves curious about? Do you find yourselves curious about the basics? — (1:02:46) Light roasting of John’s book. Integrating narcissism and inner work If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Learn how to type with the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Watch recent typing classes on Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and more. Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

We’re picking up where we left off with Dave Powers of objectivepersonality.com, exploring similarities between OPS and the enneagram. — (1:39) Function animals cont’d with John’s play last — (6:57) How working on the last animal is similar to integrating the instinctual blindspot, and how to work on sleep and consume as last animals — (15:47) How to work on the play and blast last animals — (26:08) Consciousness as a collection of programs running us — (33:08) Learning from experiences as we get older is how we develop beyond our worst patterns — (37:28) Dave/Shan’s enneagram types and typing from different centers — (43:57) What growth and health means in OPS from the perspective of positivity vs negativity — (51:38) Setting goals and watching ourselves f**k it up is what clues us into our blindspots and type patterns. — (54:54) Maps like OPS and the enneagram allow us to study and develop ourselves with precision Check out ObjectivePersonality.com for OPS classes and resources If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Learn how to type with the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

Dave Powers of objectivepersonality.com is with us to dive into what the OPS system has to offer and explore its inner work similarities with the enneagram. — (5:49) Dave tells us the story of how Objective Personality got started — (10:40) How mapping Jung’s 8 functions to Tony Robbin’s human needs gave birth to the OPS coins — (19:32) Observers vs Decider talk and the life paths and issues either side creates — (22:59) How to decipher if someone’s an observer or a decider — (28:25) Comparing our experiences typing people and the drama that ensues — (33:05) Blindspots are painful to address and are at the root of our suffering — (40:39) The sensory vs intuition mistype and useful distinctions to tell them apart — (47:33) Soft typing John and his obsession with Egypt — (53:13) What the function animals are and how they became a thing [Cont’d in Part II] Check out ObjectivePersonality.com for OPS classes and resources If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Sign up for the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

This week we have on special guest Ian Cron, author of the Road Back To You. We’ve put aside our differences and tried to come to an understanding. — (5:10) Introduction to Ian Cron and his work — (8:49) Love and compassion are what makes us human — (15:23) 4s are focused on the dark but are also envious of your happiness and light — (22:44) We make amends for #nota4 and the emotional psychological trauma it has caused — (28:66) The church has revolutionized the enneagram — (33:69) The emptiness of our hearts have to be filled by his love If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Sign up for the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

This week Emeka and Alejohndra are discussing the Netflix doc, The Tinder Swindler. The rest of crew has been held hostage by our road back to you haters in Prague. Please paypal $500 to [email protected] or David and Nancy will die. Love you babies forever. — (7:58) Overview/Summary of the premise and why this story is compelling from the POV of the enneagram — (13:29) Attachment is the fundamental O.R. structure for everyone and people don’t really connect with each other — (15:28) 3s are mirroring back to you what you find valuable and crafting an emotional landscape — (28:44) The competency of 3 at masterminding an identity and scheme — (33:58) Elizabeth Holmes and Kanye as further examples of what’s so compelling about 3s — (40:51) How the different assertive types scam people — (45:00) Attachment gone bad on The Bachelor and Love is Blind. The 9 vs 3 style of blankness If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Sign up for the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

Nancy hosts a bangin attachment talk with Alexandra and Courtney. Some magic happened in this Bermuda Zone. — (3:24) Contrasting and comparing attachment to disconnect experiences from the perspective of 3/6/9 — (10:38) 3&9 vs 6 differences on revealing their location — (18:54) Round robin impressions of the other attachment types — (21:18) What’s scary about 9 for 3&6 — (24:16) What’s scary about 3 for 6&9 — (30:02) What’s scary about 6 for 9&3 — (36:41) 6’s need to earn it and are committed to life being difficult — (40:11) Courtney’s experiences as an attachment parent — (44:10) Nancy recalls what it was like to be parented by a hexad vs an attachment parent — (48:52) Alexandra’s experiences in an all attachment family — (1:04:55) The attachment insecurity around being loved for you are as an individual vs how you’ve adapted to be loved — (1:09:36) What each attachment type thinks they needed from their parents — (1:16:56) Grounding practices for each attachment type If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Sign up for the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

The long awaited episode on John’s Egypt obsession is here. John has returned from the holy lands with much to share on the pyramids. — (6:57) Why we should give a f**k about Egypt? — (14:01) Egypt requires us to be present in all three centers — (16:25) John Anthony West and the origins of symbolist egypt — (21:42) Egyptians understood that the divine expressed itself with intentional metaphor — (24:19) The law of 3 and inner work metaphor in Horus, Set, and Isis is at core of what Egypt represents — (29:03) The Ennead of Heliopolis being a precursor to the origins of the enneagram — (33:04) The precision and scale of the pyramids is an incredible otherworldly experience — (36:37) The Younger Dryas event wiped out a global civilization — (49:30) The pyramids represent specific stars on the earth — (51:09) What to do if you’re interested in going to Egypt with John — (59:44) Egypt is a mind-blowing and humbling experience of inner life on the grandest scale Watch the Revelations of the Pyramids Documentary John mentioned: https://youtu.be/2fS9ixfQ_no If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray Sign up for the Dark Arts Academy at enneagrammer.com Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] or DM us with a pre-recorded voice message.

This week we’re exploring the relationship chemistry between 3 & 9. — (6:41) David’s impressions and romantic experiences with 3’s — (16:55) Nancy’s impressions and romantic experiences with 9’s — (26:21) Togetherness and the parenting philosophy of attachment vs hexad — (44:33) The high and low sides of 3x9 relationships — (54:12) The growth edges for a 3x9 pairing If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] with a pre-recorded voice message.

Good luck following this freeform conversation on the law of three, relationships, and the polarity between 9 and the gap. — (5:33) John’s visions of the law of 3 and why Pete Davidson gets girls — (9:34) Attachment types being open and available on the frontend but unavailable on the backend — (13:56) #Nota4 and the acceptance and thinking style of 9 vs the rejection at the gap — (28:55) Everything is a threesome and how 9s must integrate non-integration — (34:39) Attachment types are unconscious of their No’s, and hexad types of their Yes’s — (42:17) Astrological mate selection and cosmic latte — (52:42) There’s probably only one ideal romantic type for you on the enneagram If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] with a pre-recorded voice message.

This week, Alexandra is here to help us delve into our hormonal astrological compatibilities. — (3:37) Alexandra’s intro to composite and synastry compatibility — (5:38) Nancy David — (10:59) John Emeka — (24:57) Emeka Nancy — (32:21) David Emeka — (40:05) John Nancy — (47:46) David John — (52:54) Alexandra Everyone and closing thoughts Donate to help us pay for new audio equipment at [email protected] (paypal) or venmo us @emekv. If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] with a pre-recorded voice message.

Your himbo grumps are back at it again, to pick apart an often repeated and incorrect adage, “movitation, not behavior”. — (3:14) It’s both motivation AND behavior, and you don’t know your own motivation — (6:26) The instinctual drives and other layers have to be considered in motivation — (11:59) The motivation behind creating easily misunderstood catch phrases — (15:42) Each type structure is very limited and ‘close-minded’ — (18:13) Attachment types not wanting to be pinned down and rehashing the conflict around the ‘real me’ — (30:58) The question of what do I do now and the blindspot as the key — (37:10) Type isn’t what you think you’re good at — (43:50) Why you need an outside reflection to see/type yourself If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Donate to help us pay for new audio equipment at [email protected] (paypal) or venmo us @emekv. Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] with a pre-recorded voice message.

Join us with libations and your substances of choice to look back on the transformative year that was 2021. — (9:32) The year of uncovering attachment and confronting our blindspots — (19:10) Props, shoutouts, and accomplishments — (26:17) John’s instincts book release — (46:34) Dark Arts Academy — (1:01:22) Plans for 2022 If you haven’t already, go buy John’s book on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T Call the Loveline with your comments and thoughts about the show at (323) 696-0647. Or you can also email [email protected] with a pre-recorded voice message.