AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing

In this episode, Ashley Blackington welcomes Leslie Forde, founder and CEO of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and upcoming author of Repair With Self-Care: Your Guide to the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs. With humor, honesty, and deep research-backed insight, Leslie unpacks the complex emotional and logistical layers of caregiving, particularly motherhood, in a post-pandemic world. She discusses how societal expectations, personal habits, and systemic structures collide—and what we can do about it. From redefining self-care to advocating for policy change and workplace flexibility, this is a must-listen for anyone navigating care, career, and their own mental health.In this conversation:The origin and evolution of Mom’s Hierarchy of NeedsHow Leslie’s research is changing the conversation around parental burnoutWhy self-care isn’t optional—and how to reclaim itThe intersection of public policy, workplace culture, and maternal well-beingWhat the pandemic revealed about caregiving and equityActionable ways moms can “vote with their wallets” for changeHow organizations can retain working parents and caregiversThe critical role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) in supporting caregiver wellbeingWhy women’s mental and physical health are directly impacted by invisible laborThe long and short game strategies for changing the systems that hold moms backQuestions answered in this episode:What is the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs, and how did it begin?Why do moms struggle to care for themselves—and how can that change?How has the pandemic reshaped caregiving and work?What long-term solutions exist for systemic inequities in care and labor?Why is self-care a “ministry” for Leslie?How can moms find clarity on what actually matters in their day-to-day?What is the role of employers in creating family-friendly workplaces?What’s the danger of society “returning to normal” post-pandemic?How can mothers advocate for change through spending power?What’s in Leslie’s upcoming book, Repair With Self-Care?Connect with Leslie Forde:Website: https://momshierarchyofneeds.comBook (Pre-order): Repair With Self-Care: Your Guide to the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs (available wherever books are soldLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslieforde/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/momshierarchyConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this week’s episode of The In Both Podcast, host Dr. Ashley welcomes journalist and twin mom Zara Hanawalt, whose bylines include Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Parents, The New York Times for Kids, and more. Zara’s work dives deep into the intersections of motherhood, culture, and women’s health—especially in a post-pandemic world where millions of moms were forced to reckon with impossible expectations and invisible labor.In this candid, thoughtful, and at times hilarious conversation, Ashley and Zara explore what it was like parenting toddlers during lockdown, why remote work offered a glimpse of something more sustainable, and how the culture has since regressed—leaving moms to quietly pick up the pieces. From putting the grocery cart back with four kids in tow to viral trad-wife aesthetics, this conversation peels back the layers on the “have it all” myth and asks: why are moms the only ones being asked to bend?Whether you’re a stay-at-home parent, working mom, freelance warrior, or somewhere in between, this episode is full of validation, insight, and a reminder that no one is doing it wrong—it’s just that the system wasn’t built to support any of us.You'll learn: How the pandemic reshaped parenting roles—and revealed deep systemic flawsWhy freelance work can be a survival tactic for moms, not just a “girl boss” dreamThe emotional and logistical toll of caregiving without supportHow return-to-office culture is erasing hard-won flexibility for familiesThe difference between advocating for mothers and simply “complaining”Why stay-at-home parenting is labor, even if it’s unpaidThe role of social media in promoting extreme (and unrealistic) portrayals of motherhoodHow gender bias shows up in everyday parenting expectationsWhat needs to change culturally and politically to better support mothersThat taking care of yourself doesn’t have to look a certain way—quiet moments count tooConnect with Zara: Website: www.zaraalt.comInstagram: @zaraaltTikTok: @zaraaltConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode of The And Both Podcast, Dr. Ashley welcomes Dr. Noor Ali, a Bangladeshi-American medical doctor turned health insurance consultant, community builder, and beverage brand co-founder. Dr. Ali shares her remarkable journey from immigrating to the U.S. at age five to becoming a surgeon abroad—and later pivoting her career after facing insurmountable red tape while trying to transfer her medical credentials back to the U.S.In this conversation:How to navigate major life and career pivots with resilience and intentionThe surprising health insurance options available to entrepreneurs (and why benefits shouldn't hold you back)Why motherhood and business ownership don’t have to be at odds—and how Dr. Ali structures her week to honor bothWhat it means to be a multi-passionate entrepreneur and how to build sustainably across different business modelsHow Dr. Ali defines boundaries, self-care, and visibility in her personal and professional lifeQuestions Answered:What happens when your medical degree isn't recognized in the U.S., and how do you pivot after that?How can women safely and confidently leave corporate jobs without losing access to quality health insurance?What does it look like to create highly curated, impact-driven in-person networking experiences for women?How do you stay focused and productive while running multiple businesses and raising small kids?Why is honoring white space in your calendar and building slow, sustainable businesses critical?Connect with Noor: Website: https://drnoorhealth.com/IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.noorhealth/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode of The And Both Podcast, Ashley sits down with the incredible Sangheetha Parthasarathy—a Harvard and MIT alum, birth worker, and now nervous system coach. Sanha’s career journey took her from major consulting firms like Oracle and Accenture to co-founding a nonprofit focused on birth advocacy and eventually building her own body of work around somatic trauma healing and nervous system regulation.Ashley and Sangheetha covered a lot in this conversation, including:What it feels like to live in limbo as an immigrant (she's immigrated twice and repatriated once)How immigration, perfectionism, attachment, and motherhood intersectHow Sangheetha found healing and purpose through birth and postpartum experiencesThe connection between somatic work, nervous system regulation, and career pivotsWhy slowing down can feel really uncomfortable for high-achieving women—and what to do about itAshley and Sangheetha both shared their personal immigration stories and how that uncertainty shaped their nervous systems, their work, and their motherhood journeys. In this conversation: A better understanding of how nervous system regulation really worksHow systemic experiences like immigration, workaholism, and motherhood trauma live in the bodyWhy traditional “self-care” can fall flat—and what to do insteadHow to build safety in your body and life when the world feels unstableSangheetha is someone who brings heart, clarity, and wisdom to every conversation—and I know this one will leave you thinking deeply about how you care for your own nervous system, especially in chaotic times.Connect with Sangheetha:Website: https://www.sangparth.com/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, Ashley is joined by Suzie Driscoll, a pediatric occupational therapist and founder of Tiny and Mighty Therapy, specializing in infant feeding. Together, they reflect on becoming first-time moms during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic and how those experiences shaped their parenting, careers, and personal growth.Suzie shares her journey from working at Seattle Children’s Hospital to launching her own private practice, motivated by the challenges she faced with feeding her newborn during lockdown. With deep empathy and clinical expertise, she now supports families through feeding difficulties and offers strategies rooted in prevention and early intervention.In this conversation: The emotional and logistical realities of becoming a mom during the pandemicWhat pediatric feeding therapy looks like, especially for infantsHow Susie’s own feeding challenges as a new mom inspired her to help other familiesThe importance of addressing feeding issues early—and how therapy before and after tongue-tie procedures can support better outcomesWhat it’s like to run a solo private practice while navigating motherhood, loss, and another pregnancyConnect with Suzie: Website: https://www.tinyandmightytherapy.comInstgram: @tinyandmighty_otConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we're sitting down with Ellen Hockley—a seasoned entrepreneur, mom of two, and caregiver—to explore what it truly looks like to build and grow businesses while managing life’s most demanding roles. Ellen shares her journey from founding a sustainable event planning company in NYC, to launching a maternity activewear brand during the pandemic, and most recently, starting her consulting firm that supports postpartum and purpose-driven female founders.The conversation also dives into Ellen’s unexpected role as a caregiver to her husband and the emotional toll, time demands, and isolation that can come with it. Ellen speaks candidly about postpartum depression, building businesses without social media, and the misconceptions moms face when stepping into entrepreneurship.In this conversation: The real challenges and triumphs of starting and sustaining multiple businesses while raising young childrenWhy paid parental leave and postpartum support matter deeply in the U.S.How Ellen helps early-stage female founders build realistic, sustainable businesses with strategic guidanceThe power of honest entrepreneurship—and why the “six-figure in six months” promise isn’t what it seemsInsights into caregiving as a young spouse and the impact it has on identity, relationships, and businessThat you can build a successful business without social mediaConnect with Ellen:Website: www.ellenhockley.comConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode of The And Both Podcast, Laura Bull, founder of The Brand Management Company and author of From Individual to Empire, joins us for an insightful conversation on personal branding, motherhood, and how identity evolves over time. Laura shares her journey from becoming one of the youngest executives at Sony Music—working with stars like Carrie Underwood and Brad Paisley—to launching her own brand agency while raising two daughters. She breaks down the difference between marketing and branding, how to craft a lasting narrative, and why personal evolution doesn’t mean abandoning who you are.In this conversation: The difference between branding and marketing—and why it matters for your businessHow to identify your personal brand pillars that stay true across all life seasonsWhy many entrepreneurs fail with marketing due to unclear brandingHow motherhood and big life transitions impact identity and brand narrativeHow Laura helps clients build sustainable, authentic brands with her signature brand matrixWhy even powerhouse figures like Martha Stewart and Adele stick to core branding (and what you can learn from them!)Practical branding advice and toolsConnect with Laura:Instagram: @thelaurabull and @thebrandmgmtcoWebsite: https://thebrandmgmt.comConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we chat with Jillian McCloskey, founder of Momcations.co, a travel company specializing in vacations just for moms. Jillian shares how her first solo trip to Iceland transformed her as a mother and inspired her to create a business that helps other moms take guilt-free, stress-free getaways—whether it's a solo trip, a retreat with other moms, or a quick weekend escape.In this conversation:Why every mom needs a real break—and why family vacations don’t count!How to make time for travel, even when your schedule is packed.Budget-friendly & short-term trip ideas for moms who can’t take a long vacation.Why stepping away actually makes you a better, more present parent.Practical tips for planning your first momcation, even if you’ve never traveled alone before.Connect with Jillian: https://www.momcations.co/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode Ashley sits down with Erika Hanafin, the former CEO of Hey Mama, a massive networking community for entrepreneurial moms. Erika shares her insights on balancing business growth with motherhood, the unique strengths moms bring to entrepreneurship, and how to build confidence in both roles. With five successful acquisitions under her belt, she discusses her journey, the power of community, and how women can embrace ambition without guilt. Whether you're navigating startup life or looking for ways to reclaim your time, this episode is packed with practical strategies and inspiration for mom entrepreneurs.In this conversation:How to balance motherhood and entrepreneurship without sacrificing personal well-beingWhy moms have unique leadership skills that make them powerful entrepreneursHow to shift your mindset to embrace confidence in business and leadershipThe importance of community in business growth and personal supportHow to set boundaries and prioritize personal needs without guiltPractical time management and productivity hacks to reclaim hours each weekHow to integrate ambition with family life in a sustainable wayThe role of mindset shifts in overcoming self-doubt and embracing opportunitiesStrategies for networking and building meaningful business relationshipsHow to navigate different seasons of business and life with flexibility and resilienceConnect with Erika: Website: erikahanafin.comInstagram: @erikahanafinGet Erika's free guide: 5 Steps to Scale Your BusinessConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

This episode features a conversation with Heather Chauvin, a leadership coach who helps successful women live, work, and parent on their own terms—with courage and authenticity. Heather’s journey took a dramatic turn in 2013 when a stage 4 cancer diagnosis forced her to reevaluate everything she had been taught about motherhood, success, and sacrifice. Since then, she has been on a mission to challenge cultural expectations that lead to burnout and self-sacrifice, helping women redefine what it means to truly thrive.Heather shares insights on breaking free from societal “shoulds,” prioritizing your own well-being without guilt, and leading from a place of alignment—all while being an engaged parent and successful entrepreneur. Her approach is real, refreshing, and unapologetic. If you’ve ever felt like you’re checking all the right boxes but still feeling drained, this conversation will inspire you to take your power back.In this conversation: Why self-sacrifice isn’t a requirement for good motherhoodHow to listen to your intuition and trust yourselfThe dangers of ignoring your body’s whispers before they turn into screamsWhy prioritizing your own fulfillment is the key to thrivingHow to break free from cultural expectations and create a life that truly aligns with youConnect with Heather:Book: Dying to Be a Good MotherInstagram: @heatherchauvinConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode with Natasha Golinsky, a business coach dedicated to helping solopreneur moms build teams, reclaim their time, and work fewer hours while maintaining a full-time income. As a mother of three and an entrepreneur, Natasha understands the overwhelming challenge of balancing business, family, and personal time without burnout.We dive deep into the myths of motherhood and business, why so many moms feel pressured to "do it all," and how hiring the right support can transform your life. Natasha also shares her unfiltered take on motherhood, admitting that she didn’t love the early years and why it's important to normalize these feelings. If you're looking for a no-nonsense approach to business and motherhood, this episode is for you.In this conversation:Why working less doesn’t mean making lessHow to delegate tasks at home and in business without guiltThe importance of team-building for solopreneur momsHow to step away from societal “shoulds” and define success on your own termsWhy not loving certain parts of motherhood is normal and okayConnect with Natasha: LinkedIn: Natasha GolinskyConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, I sit down with Marnie Madras, the founder and CEO of Rumbly, a modern motherhood brand redefining the pregnancy experience. Marnie shares her journey from a corporate and startup career to becoming a postpartum doula and entrepreneur, all while balancing life as a mom of four. We talk about the challenges of pregnancy, the societal expectations placed on moms, and how Rumbly is helping women prioritize themselves during this transformative time.In this conversation: How Marnie transitioned from corporate life to launching Rumbly and becoming a doulaThe realities of pregnancy and early motherhood, including the loss of identity many women experienceWhy self-care and individuality are essential during pregnancy and postpartumThe role of community and support in making motherhood a more positive experienceHow Rumbly’s subscription and gift boxes are designed to celebrate moms, not just babiesConnect with Marnie:Website: rumbly.coInstagram: @rumbly_coEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, I chat with Mari Parker, a mom, entrepreneur, and the President & COO of Bouldr. We dive into the experience of pregnancy and motherhood at different life stages, the lessons learned from raising multiple children, and the balance between identity, career, and caregiving. Mari shares her insights on parenting with perspective, navigating change, and the importance of prioritizing yourself while raising a family.In this conversation: How pregnancy feels different with each child and the shift in perspective over timeThe importance of self-care and making yourself a priority as a parentNavigating career and motherhood, especially when you’re in a leadership roleHow parenting is a personal development journey that constantly evolvesThe value of exposure to different cultures and perspectives in shaping our understanding of the worldConnect with Mari:Website: www.boldrimpact.comLinkedinConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we talk with Allison Prieur, a mom of three and a nonprofit professional with over 20 years of experience in the sector. We dive into the gender and racial disparities in nonprofit work, how passion-driven labor is often undervalued, and the financial instability that so many nonprofit workers face. Allison shares how becoming a mom changed her perspective on the sector and led her to entrepreneurship, and we explore what needs to change for nonprofit workers to be fairly compensated for their impact.What we discuss:The hidden gender and racial disparities in nonprofit work and how they impact financial stabilityWhy passion-driven labor is often exploited and what that means for nonprofit workers and their familiesThe challenges of balancing entrepreneurship, parenting, and higher education as a mom of threeThe reality of nonprofit funding cycles, last-minute budget approvals, and workforce burnoutWhy it’s so important for nonprofit organizations to advocate for fair wages and systemic changeThe intersection of motherhood, nonprofit work, and entrepreneurship and why women are expected to “do more with less”How we can create real change in the nonprofit sector through advocacy and collaborationThe power of evaluation and learning in nonprofits to drive long-term impactConnect with Allison: Website: www.dareic.com/storeLinkedin: http://linkedin.com/in/allisonprieurConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode Ashley and Katie Huey explore the intersection of grief, leadership, and parenting. Katie shares her personal journey through grief after losing her father and how it has shaped her work in leadership development. They discuss the complexities of navigating grief in both personal and professional settings, especially in the wake of the pandemic. The conversation delves into the importance of empathy, compassion, and self-care, particularly for mothers balancing ambition and emotional labor. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the need for open conversations about grief and the human experience. We explore the complexities of motherhood, work-life balance, and the emotional landscape of being a woman today. They discuss the challenges of navigating personal and professional responsibilities, the importance of community and compassion, and the beauty found in both joy and sadness. The dialogue emphasizes the need for self-acceptance, the power of 'and both' in life choices, and the significance of ordinary moments in a world that often pressures women to excel in every aspect of life. They also touch on future aspirations, personal growth, and the importance of finding joy in the journey.Connect with Katie:Instagram: @52beautifulthingsWebsite: katiehuey.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-huey-acc-b10969aa/Email: [email protected] Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we chat with Jessica Murray, founder of Empower, shares her journey from corporate success to building a business that aligns with her values as a mother and entrepreneur. Jessica reflects on the identity shift motherhood brings and how it impacts career choices, offering actionable insights for moms navigating similar transitions.What you’ll learn in this episode:The emotional and professional challenges of transitioning from corporate life to entrepreneurship as a mother.How to navigate the identity shift that comes with motherhood and embrace new career paths.Practical strategies for balancing work and motherhood without losing sight of personal fulfillment.The importance of building structure and boundaries as an entrepreneur to manage time effectively.Why it’s essential to align your career with your personal values and goals as a parent.Insights into how to ask for help, build support systems, and find your community as a working mom.The reality of overcoming societal expectations about what success looks like after becoming a parent.How to empower yourself to pursue a meaningful career while raising a family.Connect with Jessica:IG: @hiempower.coLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jmurray2Website: hiempower.coNewsletter: newsletter.hiempower.co/subscribeConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we chat with Monique Hutcherson Benoit, a dynamic leader in retail and a mom of four, shares her remarkable journey from chemical engineering to retail strategy at Ulta Beauty, where she champions BIPOC-owned brands. Monique discusses the importance of embracing pivots, balancing career aspirations with motherhood, and the challenges of managing a large family while navigating life’s unexpected turns. With honesty and humor, she reflects on her experiences, including career transitions, co-parenting, and the evolving demands of motherhood. This inspiring conversation highlights the power of resilience, adaptability, and community support.What'll you'll learn:How Monique transitioned from chemical engineering to retail strategy and entrepreneurshipThe challenges and lessons learned from managing a large family while advancing her careerThe importance of building systems of support, both professionally and personallyHow to embrace pivots in career and life without feeling stuck in one pathInsights into supporting diverse-owned brands and creating equity in the retail spaceThe evolving nature of motherhood and how to balance personal identity with parenting responsibilitiesConnect with Monique: Website: www.scalingemergingbeauty.comLinked in: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moniquehbenoit/IG: @scalingemergingbeautyConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, Caitlin Wells, founder of Upwell Strategies, shares her journey of leaving a corporate job at the start of the pandemic to build a business focused on helping small business owners—especially moms—streamline their operations with effective systems and automations. Caitlin talks about the delicate balance of growing her company while navigating new motherhood, the challenges of finding suitable childcare, and the ongoing tug-of-war between professional ambitions and being a present parent. She opens up about the importance of self-care for moms, how her business principles have crossed into her personal life, and her mission to create meaningful impact while supporting her family. Caitlin also offers insight into her vision for the future of Upwell Strategies and her aspirations for balance in all stages of life. This conversation is packed with relatable moments, especially for moms striving to juggle work, family, and their own needs!Connect with Caitlin: Website: https://upwellstrategies.com/Instagram: @upwellstrategiesConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we chat with Jessica Freeman from Jess Creatives as she shares her journey of building a successful business while balancing motherhood. Jess discusses how she grew her web design and SEO business, transitioned from a traditional job to entrepreneurship, and navigates the challenges of being a mom and business owner. She highlights the importance of prioritizing tasks, setting boundaries, and creating efficient systems to streamline workflows. Jess also demystifies SEO, offering practical advice for small business owners to improve their visibility without falling into common pitfalls or scams.In this conversation:The importance of setting priorities and boundaries as a mom and entrepreneurHow Jess transitioned from working a traditional job to running her business full-timePractical tips for leveraging SEO to grow your business without getting overwhelmedThe value of streamlined systems and processes for managing a business efficientlyWhy it’s essential to trust your instincts and filter out the noise in the business advice worldConnect with Jessica:Website: https://www.jesscreatives.com/Instagram: @jesscreativesConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, Valerie Polunas, founder of Flowing River Conflict Solutions, LLC, shares her journey into conflict management and how she helps individuals, couples, and organizations navigate conflict with confidence. Valerie discusses her background in education, her passion for teaching communication and conflict resolution skills, and the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship as a mom. She provides insights into the importance of viewing conflict as an opportunity for growth and collaboration, as well as how she balances business and family life. Valerie also highlights her work with social impact organizations and her creative projects, such as developing a game to help people practice conflict resolution skills.What you'll learn in this episode:How Valerie transitioned from a career in education to launching her own conflict management businessThe role of conflict resolution skills in both personal and professional relationshipsTips for navigating entrepreneurship as a mom and balancing family life with workThe importance of seeing conflict as an opportunity for growth and collaborationCreative ways to introduce and teach conflict resolution skills, such as through games and workshopsConnect with Valerie:Website: www.flowingrivercs.comLinkedInYouTube ChannelConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

What happens when you build your career in a caregiving profession, only to realize after becoming a mother that the system was never built to support you?This week, I sit down with Sarah Blair, a pediatric occupational therapist and mom, to talk about navigating motherhood in healthcare—a field dominated by women yet undervalued in so many ways.In this conversation: The realities of working in professions shaped by care, compassion, and empathyWhy “women’s work” is still undervalued and underpaidHow motherhood exposes the cracks in these systemsThe personal toll of trying to fit into structures that weren’t designed with us in mindWhy sharing our stories matters for creating real changeThis is a raw, important conversation about the cycles women and mothers get stuck in—and what it looks like to push for something different.Connect with Sarah: Website: https://www.automynd.comLinkedInPersonal LinkedIn: Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this engaging episode, Emmy-nominated producer Marni Blake Ellis shares her inspiring journey from an MTV internship to producing critically acclaimed documentaries, reality shows, and digital programming for major networks like HBO, Bravo, and TLC. As a mom and a seasoned industry professional, Marni discusses the challenges of balancing a demanding career, her battle with stress-related multiple sclerosis, and the joys of raising her son while adapting to the ever-changing landscape of television. She also delves into her creative outlet, the podcast Hi Felicia with Marnie and Felicia, co-hosted with her mom, where they explore pop culture, media, and their unique mother-daughter dynamic. Together, they embrace the chaos of reality TV while celebrating the authenticity and connection it can bring.Discussed in this episode:Marni’s career evolution from MTV intern to producing Emmy-nominated content and navigating the shifting landscape of TV and digital mediaBalancing her high-pressure career with motherhood, the impact of her MS diagnosis, and her decision to have one childThe creation of Hi Felicia with Marnie and Felicia, focusing on pop culture and the heartwarming and humorous bond with her momParenting in a digital world, managing screen time, and fostering traditional TV habits with her sonThe value of reality TV and pop culture as escapism and their evolving role in storytelling todayConnect with Marni: Website: https://www.instagram.com/marnijagger/Instagram: https://www.marniblake.comPodcast: Hi, Felicia! with Marni and FeliciaConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

Today we’re joined by Lori Sugarman, a former marketing executive turned passionate advocate for the value of unpaid labor in the home. Lori shares her transformative journey from a high-level corporate career to a devoted stay-at-home role, only to discover how society systematically undervalues the invisible work of care and home management. Lori reframes the narrative around this labor and its importance to family, community, and overall societal wellness. This episode is packed with thought-provoking moments, actionable ideas, and a call to recognize the inherent worth of every contribution made in and outside the home. In this episode, we discuss:Lori’s journey from marketing executive to stay-at-home mom and community leaderThe pivotal moment when she was denied disability insurance for being “just a housewife” and how it ignited her mission to advocate for the value of unpaid laborThe societal devaluation of caregiving and domestic work and how it reflects in our systems, from insurance policies to GDP calculationsHow families can reframe “chores” and involve kids in a meaningful way to foster connection and lifelong skillsThe role of communication and collaboration in achieving equity in the home and breaking generational cycles of inequityLori's book, aimed at sparking family conversations about shared responsibility and the value of care workConnect with Lori:Website: Our Home, Our PrideLaurie’s Book: Our Home: The Love, Work, and Heart of Family (Amazon link-also available wherever books are sold! This is not an affiliate link)Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

What do you do when the unimaginable happens? In this conversation, Melissa Saleh shares her profound journey through grief, motherhood, and the challenges of navigating loss. From her experiences as a corporate lawyer to her transition into tech and startups, she discusses the impact of her personal tragedies, including the loss of her first child, and how these experiences have shaped her identity and purpose. Melissa emphasizes the importance of storytelling as a means of healing and the need for a supportive environment for those experiencing loss. She also addresses the challenges faced by women in the workplace, particularly regarding maternity leave and the need for systemic change. Through her narrative, she aims to create a lighthouse for others who are navigating similar journeys, offering hope and understanding.About Melissa:Melissa Saleh is a serial entrepreneur who has spent her career at the intersection of technology and human behavior. Since 2004 she has combined storytelling and bleeding-edge technology to build successful products, companies and brands. In 2020 she cofounded FairPlay AI, the world's first Fairness-as-a-Service company. Prior to that she created and executed narrative strategies for companies including Facebook, Google, Citibank and GE. After founding the content strategy firm Brick Wall Media in 2013, she built up a roster of Fortune 500 clients and worked extensively with early-stage cos to develop their mission, voice and brand narrative, then communicate them powerfully to the world.As a journalist and editor, she launched and ran digital properties for The New York Times, Newsweek, Discover Magazine and others. She began her career as a labor and employment lawyer in New York City, then transitioned to media by founding the internationally-acclaimed blog Opinionistas, which revealed life inside the world's toniest law firms. She has written for The New York Times, The New York Observer, Wired, The Huffington Post, The Daily Beast and others, and has appeared on-air for CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business and NPR. She received her JD from UVA School of Law and her BA from Dartmouth.Connect with Melissa:https://www.threads.net/@melissa.l.salehhttps://www.instagram.com/melissa.l.saleh/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today’s episode, we're joined by Lee Sevier, a former big law lawyer who boldly chose to leave her demanding career and be more present with her children. We dive into her journey of managing career aspirations and family priorities, discussing the trade-offs, challenges, and moments of clarity along the way. Lee also shares her experiences with her son’s developmental needs, revealing the reality of balancing specialized therapies with the everyday demands of family life.Lee’s story is one of resilience, shifting priorities, and the importance of self-compassion, offering insights that any parent, career-driven or not, will find inspiring.In this episode, we discuss:The difficult decision to step away from a big law career to focus on familyLee’s journey navigating her son’s special needs and therapyHow to embrace career pauses without seeing them as gapsTips for balancing career ambitions with the responsibilities of parenthoodConnect with Lee:LinkedInConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, I welcome Kate Westlund Tovsen, the founder of the Society of Working Moms, a community designed for moms of all ages and stages to connect and get support. Kate shares insights about the group’s features, including monthly workshops, weekly group coaching, and a low-stakes book club. She also discusses the importance of work-life balance and the challenges she faced as a working mom of two. We dive into the inspiration behind creating the Society of Working Moms and how it has evolved since its inception six months ago. The conversation also touches on the community's approach to fostering connections, setting boundaries, and navigating the complexities of motherhood and career. Lastly, Kate talks about the group's coaching sessions, expert-led workshops, and the invaluable support members receive from each other.Kate Westlund Tovsen is the founder of The Society of Working Moms, a membership community for and by moms of all ages and stages who love their families and their careers but who might not feel fully supported in either. Members enjoy a well-managed and engaged Slack community made up of generous women who provide overwhelming confirmation that we are not, in fact, alone. The group also boasts features such as monthly workshops, weekly group coaching sessions, and a "low-stakes book club." Outside of being the group's community manager and her "real job" as a communications consultant, Kate enjoys doing endless DIY home projects around her kids' schedules and toys, exploring the beautiful lakes and woods that surround her home, snuggling with her family while watching a movie, and building IRL community in her small northern Minnesota town.Connect with Kate: Working Moms Society: Use code ANDBOTH for 50% off your first month of membershipInstagram: @thetovsensLinkedinEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today’s episode, our guest is Jenny Armstrong, an elected Alaska state representative and founder of Wild Awake and Delve, two companies focused on empowering women and driving social good. Jenny shares her inspiring journey from the East Coast to Alaska, where she now balances politics, business, and motherhood. We discuss her work advocating for paid family leave, mental health, and childcare, along with her passion for helping other women succeed in leadership and entrepreneurship. Jenny also opens up about her family’s unique journey, including welcoming two refugee girls from Afghanistan into their home. Join us for an episode filled with insights on leadership, community impact, and what it truly means to make a difference.In this episode, we discuss:Why Jenny ran for office and her legislative focus on family, mental health, and equalityHow she’s helping women entrepreneurs build impactful businesses through Wild AwakeThe challenges of balancing motherhood with a political careerHer family’s journey welcoming two refugee girls and helping them thrive in the U.S.Practical advice for anyone looking to make a difference in their communityHit play to join us for an inspiring conversation with Jenny Armstrong about leadership, community, and the drive to make a positive impact!Connect with Jenny: Website: https://www.wildawakecreative.com/Instagram: @wild_awake_creativeLinkedinEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we sit down with Tori Johnston, a marketing consultant and former CMO for top fitness brands like SoulCycle and Exponential Fitness. Tori shares her career journey from corporate marketing to consulting, while balancing her role as a mom to a three-and-a-half-year-old. She talks about the challenges of managing work and family life, the transition from city living to suburban life, and her experiences navigating the demands of being a female executive during the COVID-19 pandemic.Key Questions Tori Answered:How did Tori transition from corporate marketing to consulting in the fitness industry?What are the biggest challenges she faces balancing her professional career and motherhood?How has her experience as a female executive influenced her views on workplace flexibility for moms?What advice does Tori have for moms balancing early parenthood with maintaining a career?Key Takeaways:Tori shares how she integrates fitness and reading into her busy schedule to stay grounded and find balance.She discusses the importance of having strong support systems for working moms, both at work and in society.Tori highlights how building a strong community around family life is crucial, especially for raising children.Flexibility, self-care, and realistic expectations are key to managing a demanding career and family life.Join us to learn how Tori Johnston manages her thriving fitness marketing career while balancing the demands of motherhood.Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, I explore the multifaceted dynamics of balancing a creative career, parenting, and personal identity. Our guest, Chauncey Zalkin, shares her journey from being a senior VP in marketing to a creative entrepreneur focusing on writing and fiction projects, with aspirations to become a therapist. We discuss the challenges of maintaining authenticity, the influence of her entrepreneurial father and artistically inclined mother on her pursuits, and the importance of creative legacy. She also talks about her experience with school performance, balancing twin birthdays, and the need for intentional growth in entrepreneurship. We also hone in on empathetic parenting, co-parenting, the significance of accountability, and Chauncey's dreams of writing a book, collaborating on screenplays, and building a community through her podcast 'Actual People' and Substack. Connect with Chauncey:Website: https://chaunceyzalkin.com/Podcast: Actual PeopleLinkedinConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, I sit down with Jen White, the founder and chief brand strategist of Collective Memory. Jen shares her incredible journey of over two decades as an entrepreneur and discusses the powerful connections between running a business and raising a family. We dive into the concept of moms being the CEOs of their households and explore how the skills we learn as mothers can directly translate into leadership roles in the business world.We talk about the challenges of balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship, and how making decisions for our families often mirrors the decision-making process in business. Jen, who has older children, offers insights into the different stages of motherhood and reflects on how her experiences have evolved over time.We also explore the importance of mentorship, both in business and parenting, and how having someone a few steps ahead of you can be an invaluable resource. Jen shares her thoughts on what it means to lead with empathy and understanding, whether at home or in the workplace, and how giving ourselves credit for what we do as mothers can empower us in all aspects of life.If you’ve ever felt like you're navigating both motherhood and entrepreneurship with uncertainty, this episode will provide you with the perspective and reassurance that you’re not alone. Join us as we explore the parallels between family and business, and how the lessons we learn in one area can inform and strengthen the other.Connect with Jen:Website: https://drawingfrommemory.com/Linked InEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

After a decade-and-a-half of chronic stress from trying to fit her square peg into the round hole of society, her body broke down, and she got Type 1 Diabetes as an adult, which dramatically shifted her perspectives. She now coaches women to expand into truer versions of themselves by discovering deep self-trust, writing their own rules, attuning to their hearts and bodies, and thriving in living their values.Connect with Nicole:Website: https://nicolelenzen.com/Instagram: @nicolelenzencoachingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolelenzen Substack: https://blog.nicolelenzen.com/'Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we talk with Daniella Marchetti, a clinical psychologist specializing in behavioral sleep medicine. Daniella shares her journey into sleep medicine, motivated by her own postpartum sleep struggles and her discovery of cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia. She emphasizes the importance of regular sleep schedules, the pitfalls of social jet lag, and the negative impact of using bed for activities like working or eating. Daniella discusses how she helps mothers, particularly those past the initial postpartum period, reclaim their sleep and highlights the importance of addressing sleep issues to prevent conditions like postpartum depression. Additionally, she provides insights into her work at the Miami VA, where she runs insomnia and CPAP groups for veterans, and shares some of her personal interests, like reading and watching Formula One. Daniella also talks about the benefits of teletherapy and her efforts to expand her practice to more states. The episode underscores the critical role of sleep in overall health and wellness, especially for new mothers and veterans.Connect with Daniella:Instagram: @drdaniellamarchettiLinked InEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we chat with Abby Wachoff, an occupational therapist and mother, to discuss the profound impact of losing her sister to cancer. Abby shares her raw and heartfelt journey through grief, how it reshaped her life and career, and her decision to pursue a master's in mental health counseling. They delve into the complexities of motherhood, grief, and the importance of being present. Abby's story of resilience and transformation offers valuable insights and a reminder that 'nothing is wasted.'Connect with Abby:Instagram: @mother.lover.otConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we address the outdated structure of company benefits that still cater to single-income families, despite the modern-day necessity of dual-income households. It highlights the challenges families face due to the mismatched timing of the school day and after-school programs, the high demand for summer camps, and how economic status and race compound these difficulties.After 11 years in software sales where she led and scaled teams, Tara decided to pursue her dream of entrepreneurship. Her passion for deep self reflection, growth and equity drove her to become a certified professional coach, leadership development consultant, Fair Play Certified Facilitator and activist for valuing care. Tara works to create radically inclusive and equity-minded environments where everyone is encouraged to show up authentically. Connect with Tara:Linked inWebsite: www.infinidei.comInstagram: @infinideiEmail: [email protected] with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we welcome Jessica Hunt- a psychotherapist and mother of two to discuss the challenges and nuances of balancing multiple roles in life. Jessica shares her journey as a mother and her professional life as a therapist and small business owner. In this conversation, we discuss parenting strategies, the importance of community and support systems, and Jessica's innovative 'walk and talk' therapy sessions. We also talk about the impact of COVID-19 on family dynamics, mental health, and work-life balance, and the need for ongoing communication and empathy within relationships. Jessica Hunt, LCSW offers psychotherapy services in California. Jessica specializes in working with parents and couples to enhance their relationships, particularly in reconnecting with themselves and their partners. Services focus on self-compassion, mindfulness, and connection with one's identity as it evolves through life transitions and stages. In addition to therapeutic work, Jessica provides consulting, workshop facilitation, and public speaking, as well as resources to support self-care and self-paced learning.Connect with Jessica Hunt:Website: https://www.jessicahuntlcsw.com/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicahuntlcsw/Instagram: @jessicahuntlcswConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we're wrapping up season 3! We're talking all about how the AND/BOTH podcast has grown and highlights how individuals, including business owners, moms, and so many other women from walks of life, have turned their own challenging experiences into solutions that benefit others. Hit play and then binge all of the episodes to feel less alone!Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we're chatting with Emily Guarnotta about the significant issue of child care and the need for more companies to provide childcare benefits or in-house childcare facilities. We talk about ensuring that child care not only is available but also meets safety and comfort standards for parents, that the quality of child care including suitable stimulation and proper attention to children's needs, is crucial. Emily also highlights differences in state-provided child care benefits, with an example of South Carolina offering better state programs such as the 4k program.Connect with Emily: website: www.joinphoenixhealth.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/_phoenix_health/Facebook: www.facebook.com/JoinPhoenixHealthInstagram: www.instagram.com/dr_emily_guarnotta/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, our guest Samantha Gollup and I discuss the importance of improving our relationship with food and our bodies, especially as parents. We talk about diet culture and generational trauma on our attitudes towards food and body image, not to mention the need for autonomy and self-regulation when it comes to eating and the importance of modeling healthy behaviors for our children. In this conversation:-The importance of creating a positive food environment-Allowing children to have autonomy in their food choices-Focusing on functionality rather than appearance-Challenges of parents not agreeing on feeding strategies-The impact of diet and beauty culture on parentingConnect with Samanatha:Website: https://www.antidietmama.com  Instagram: @anti.diet.mamaBlog post on body confidence in children: https://antidietmama.com/blog/cultivating-body-confidence-in-our-children-building-a-foundation-of-self-loveBody image books handout: https://antidietmama.myflodesk.com/bodyimagebooksConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we welcome Brooke Shapiro, the owner of Sprinkles Parents. Brooke shares her personal journey as a mom and her experience working in the parenting space, and the challenges she faced in the workplace, including being laid off twice after returning from maternity leave. This led her to start Sprinkles Parents, a community and resource hub for parents where she provides various resources and support for parents, including online courses, playgroups, and a network of trusted service providers. In this conversation:The challenges faced by working moms, including discrimination and lack of support in the workplaceThe importance of creating resources and support systems for parentsThe value of moms supporting each other and sharing resourcesThe need for flexible and understanding workplaces for parents There is a growing recognition of the need to provide better support and understanding for parents, particularly mothers, who often bear the brunt of caregiving responsibilities.Addressing the physical and emotional challenges of motherhood, such as postpartum care and the mental load, is crucial for the well-being of mothers and families.Partners and family members need to be educated and aware of the challenges faced by mothers in order to provide effective support.Societal expectations and gender roles play a significant role in shaping caregiving dynamics and need to be reexamined.Connect with Brooke:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sprinklesparents/ Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we chat with our guest Jill Sutton, a mom and host of the Living Her Legacy Podcast. We dive into the complexities of balancing motherhood with career aspirations, the pressures of perfect motherhood, and the importance of finding personal fulfillment. Jill shares her journey from being a physical therapist to a podcaster, discussing the personal growth and challenges faced along the way. We also touch on the significance of community, self-care, and adjusting expectations in motherhood. Connect with Jill:Website: https://jillgsutton.com/Instagram: @jillgsuttonPodcast IG: @livingherlegacypodcastConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we welcome our guest Allie McQuaid, a mom, therapist, and business owner. We chat about the pervasive guilt and pressure to be perfect that many moms experience, and how modern mothers increasingly balance professional work inside or outside the home. Allie also shares her journey of opening a private practice in Maryland, where she works with moms from a 'treehouse' office space (it is SO amazing!!) aiming to create a safe and welcoming environment. Societal expectations, the impact of screen time on children, and the need for more supportive mental health resources and community for mothers are all topics in toady's episode and trust - you don't want to miss this one!Connect with Allie:Website: https://www.treehousetherapyllc.com/Instagram: @millennialmomtherapistConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode with Mary Wiegand, founder and CEO of Boone, a consulting agency specializing in demand forecasting and inventory management for product-based businesses. Mary shares her journey from a decade-long corporate career in retail to establishing Boone and discusses how she balances being a mother to six children with running a successful business. She talks about the importance of involving her children in the family's daily schedule, finding community, and maintaining confidence in oneself. And of course, Mary also offers practical advice for entrepreneurs and insights into how her company, Boone, supports smaller brands with a human-focused, fractional approach.Connect with Mary:Website: https://boonllc.net/LinkedinInstagram: @boon_llcConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we chat with Justine Carino, a licensed mental health counselor from New York, specializing in anxiety disorders, couples therapy, and family therapy. Justine shares her journey into the mental health field, her experience of becoming a mother, and how it shaped her career focus towards maternal mental health. We talk about the impact of the pandemic on working mothers, the importance of seeking help, establishing boundaries, and navigating the pressures of modern parenting,  the generational differences in parenting, the challenges of balancing professional and personal lives, plus the societal pressures on mothers today.  Hit play for this important conversation!Connect with Justine: Website: https://www.carinocounseling.comInstagram: @_thoughtsfromthecouch_Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we welcome Erin Spar, a feminist mom therapist and the host of the Feminist Mom Podcast. We chat all about the individualistic approach to parenting, the societal pressure on mothers to be perfect and self-regulated without sufficient support, and the importance of cultural and systemic change to alleviate the unrealistic expectations placed on mothers. We also dig into the significance of self-compassion, societal pressures, the impact of the pandemic on mental health and motherhood, and the need for systemic changes benefiting parenting and mental health support. Connect with Erin: Instagram: @feminist.mom.therapistWebsite: https://www.erinspahrtherapy.com/Connect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode,  Jess Weisz  and I chat about the concept of exceptionalism and the immense pressure it creates, particularly for mothers striving to balance career, caregiving, and self-care. We talk about the unrealistic corporate culture demands, the systemic challenges mothers face, and the impact of society's lack of trust and support systems.Topics also covered: -Exploitation of causes by corporations and the prioritization of space exploration over fundamental human needs-Self-worth and the fallacy of exceptionalism-The value of one's inherent achievementsListen in as we envision a future where caregiving is valued equitably in society.Connect with Jess: Website: https://rulebreaker.substack.comLinkedinConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, our guest, Dr. Jasmonae Joyriel, dives deep into the complexities of emotional intelligence, communication in relationships, and the nuanced dynamics of parenthood. This conversation brings to light the critical importance of understanding oneself and one's partner emotionally for a healthier relational dynamic while also dicing into cultivating vulnerability and assertiveness- especially discussing sensitive topics like sexuality and intimacy which are often shrouded in societal stigma. Tune in to understand the transformative power of acknowledging the full spectrum of emotions from an early age; stressing the impact on both personal and professional relationships. Connect with Jasmonae: Instagram: @ignite_anew Tiktok: @dr.jasmonaejoyrielLinked InConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we're joined by Paige from @sheisapaigeturner as we talk about the challenges faced by women in balancing parenthood and work, particularly focusing on the unequal burden of parenting, societal expectations, and the importance of support systems for mothers. This conversation sheds light on the necessity of open dialogues about parenting responsibilities and self-care practices in achieving a more equal and fulfilling motherhood experience. Connect with Paige:Tiktok: @sheisapaigeturnerInstagram: @sheisapaigeturnerConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, our guest Melissa Llarena and I explore how the experiences of motherhood can be leveraged in professional settings, plus using creativity and imagination as competitive advantages. Melissa shares her journey from leaving a corporate career to starting her own coaching business, highlighting the need for mothers to balance personal and professional lives all while staying authentic. We also discuss the importance of making strategic choices and connections to achieve individual ambitions. Connect with Melissa:Website: https://www.melissallarena.com/Instagram: @melissallarenaPodcast: Unimaginable WellnessLinkedinConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In this episode, we talk to trademark and intellectual property attorney, Lauren Bercuson, as we talk about balancing parenthood, self-care, and career, especially touching on the challenges of finding time for personal activities amid our busy lives. Lauren shares her journey, from coping with her son's health crisis to starting her own law firm, Storylock Legal, to support other women and mom entrepreneurs in protecting their intellectual property. We discussed the importance of setting realistic expectations for entrepreneurship, the pressures of 'having it all,' and the importance of trademark protection, especially for female founders. Lauren's commitment to helping others navigate the intimidating world of legal matters was truly inspiring, reminding us that sometimes it's necessary to lean on professional help to set ourselves up for success. Connect with Lauren:Website: www.storylocklegal.com (Grab a free consultation on intellectual property protection!)Instagram: @storylocklegalLinkedInConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

In today's episode, we're joined with our guest Amanda Hofman, founder of Go to Market, a New York City-based branded merchandise studio focused on creating sustainable, high-quality promotional items that reflect a company's values and brand identity. We talk about the challenges of achieving work-life balance, the pressure and unrealistic expectations set by social media, and the importance of making intentional choices in parenting and business. Amanda shares her journey of running her second company while prioritizing her family, personal interests, and highlights the concept of 'anti-junk' branded merchandise, aiming to provide meaningful, environmentally friendly options for companies looking to engage their audience without contributing to waste. Amanda's insights into authentic living, steering clear of the hustle culture, and building a business that aligns with one's values offer valuable takeaways for us out here juggling various roles in our lives!Connect with Amanda:Website: https://gotomarket.studio/Instagram: @gotomarketstudioLinkedInConnect with Ashley: Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comDovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @andboth_podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/