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Jonathan Miller ~ Confronting Unknowns (Audio Fixed)
Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFOJonathan Miller works in frontier tech, research and development. He vounteers for Americans for Safe Aerospace, and ran a course at MIT called Confronting Unknowns.We discuss the challenge of considering UAP and means and methods for getting better information about this tricky subject.Jonathan's Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tough-tech-today-with-meyen-and-miller/id1527322834Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-treesSpacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFOJoin WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join

Rhys Dalton Morgan (UFOzzie)
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S7 Ep 11Tim Burke ~ Writer, Director, Producer
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S7 Ep 10Daniel Otis ~ Investigative Journalist
Send a textDaniel Otis is an investigative journalist who covers UAP for Canadian and international news organizations. He works primarily with direct reports and documents, often retrieved by legal information requests.Join WTUFO YouTube Membership:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinMusic by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 9Jordan Flowers ~ Disclosure Foundation Executive Director
Send a textJordan leads the nonprofit Disclosure Foundation, a nonprofit supporting policy, legal and education actions to advance official disclosure and coordinate societal response thereto. He comes to this role after a 20-year career in corporate finance—he's a sharp tack and a good guy. We're honored to host him and learn about his work. Hope you enjoy!Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 85 Resoultions For UFOlogy
Send a textCultivate ConverationsFund and Organize ScienceHold Government AccountableEducate and Encourage the MediaPublicly Contact Nonhuman IntelligencesHappy New Year, everyone! Wishing you a fun, successful 2026. Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 7What's Going On With UFOs ~ Best Guess
Send a textA fun one for the end of 2025—this is my honest best guess about what's going on with UFOs. All the details from their origin to the time they've been here to their overarching agenda. Just pure, unfiltered, wild-eyed speculation. Hope you enjoy! Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 63 Likely Disclosure Scenarios
Send a textWhat's actually going to happen? I've thought hard about it and this is what I think is likely. 1. A Presidential Address2. An NHI Reveal3. A Gradual RealizationIn this fun, punchy episode, I tease out these possibilities and drive toward what I think we should be doing to prepare for and encourage them. Happy holidays everyone. I wish you and your loved ones all a peaceful, healthy season. <3 Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees |Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ | Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 5UFO Media Criticism
Send a textThe main engines of American news media do a terrible job covering UFOs. What should they resolve to improve? Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 4How Should We Think About Disclosure?
Send a textI'd like to start a conversation here and invite you to participate. Please meet us on our YouTube Community page to engage in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO/communityMusic by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 3What Should We Do About UFOs?
Send a textI've been making WTUFO since the summer of 2024, so I take an episode here to share what I think is happening with UFOs, what my show is for, and what we should all do about this wild situation. Thank you for listening! Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join The bullet points I cover in this episode are: 1. What Is Happening?a) NHI on Earthb) Military Secretsc) Emerging Physics2. What Is WTUFO For?a) Normalizing the UFO Conversation b) Exploring Different Perspectives c) Finding Action Steps3. What Should We Do?a) Wake People Upb) Fund More Sciencec) Engage Publicly With NHII'd love to hear what you think! Come chime in on YouTube or at the show's Patreon Page.Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 2Brenda Denzler ~ Jinn, UFOs and Religious Trickster Creatures
Send a textBrenda is a mostly retired writer, editor, and sometime speaker currently living in rural North Carolina. She received her Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University in 1998 and is the author of The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs, (University of California Press, 2001), a couple of invited chapters in scholarly books on religion and the UFO sub-culture, and a few articles on UFOs and religion. Her current interest is in mining humanity’s folkloric and religious traditions to better understand the provenance and nature of “the gods,” the gentry, elementals, jinn, angels/demons, and similar entities in terms that treat them as something other than fictions with no more substance than mirrors into which we look to regulate, console, or understand ourselves as human beings.Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S7 Ep 1Dr. Jim Madden ~ Thinking Carefully About UAP
Send a textDr. James Madden teaches philosophy at Benedictine College. He's written three books, including "Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World." We discuss how to think carefully about UAP, the probabilities of their origins, the tension between caution and productive investigation, what it would take to prove UAP are nonhuman, and the possibilities of contact. Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Join WTUFO on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Join WTUFO on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Jim's Papers: https://www.jdmadden.com/philosophy-course Jim's Substack: https://jdmadden.substack.com/ Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 13Karin Austin ~ Director of the Center for the Impossible at Rice University, Executive Director of the John Mack Institute
ESend a textKarin Austin leads both the Center for the Impossible at Rice University and the John Mack Institute.In the 1990's, Karin worked with the late Harvard psychiatrist, John E. Mack, M.D., contributing her own experiences to his research into the abduction phenomenon, and eventually transitioning into the role of his personal assistant. After Dr. Mack's death in 2004, Karin was pivotal in helping Dr. Mack's family close his estate, an effort that eventually led to collaborating with Wilson Research Center's Head of Special Collections, Amanda Focke, and Rice University's Dr. Jeff Kripal, to transfer and digitize a major donation of Dr. Mack's phenomenon-related materials. The archives of the Center for the Impossible have grown to include collections from more than a dozen UFO researchers. Karin is leading the effort to digitize these materials, preserving them for future investigation and making them increasingly accessible for scientifically rigorous data analysis. The specific nature of this work makes up the bulk of our conversation. We also discuss Karin's views of the phenomenon and her perspective on how humanity should proceed as we steadily learn more about it. Show Links: Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/joinCenter for the Impossible Records Collection: https://archives.library.rice.edu/repositories/2/classifications/25?&page=1 Archives of the Impossible Home: https://impossiblearchives.rice.edu/ John Mack Institute Home: http://johnemackinstitute.org/ Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 12Dr. Stephen Bruehl ~ Coauthor of Transient Papers
Send a textDr. Stephen Bruehl cowrote two blockbuster papers on transient points of light in 1950s astronomy pictures. He explains to us why these findings are unlikely to be anything other than reflective physical objects in geosynchronous orbit. Join WTUFO:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Multiple Transients Paper: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1538-3873/ae0afe Nuclear Association Paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-21620-3 Press Release: https://www.su.se/english/news/unexpected-patterns-in-historical-astronomical-observations-1.855042 Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 11Jim Quirk ~ Encounter Experiencer, UFO Witness, Podcast Host
ESend a textJim's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/QuirkZone Jim's Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4DxSG1jjl1gPnF6xYrU2Cz Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 10Seth Borkowski ~ Host of The Spiritual Skeptic
ESend a textSeth has a masters in psychology and works in fintech. He also podcasts about aliens with a cheerfully comedic bent. You can fond his show The Spiritual Skeptic here: https://thespiritualskeptic.buzzsprout.com/Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 9Dr. Brett Robinson ~ Notre Dame Media Studies Professor
Send a textBrett's faculty page: https://mcgrath.nd.edu/about/faculty-staff/brett-robinson-ph-d/ Brett's Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA0ah6Xmqus Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 8Nicola Mitchell ~ Independent Journalist
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S6 Ep 7Sarah Gamm ~ USACE Scientist, Former Intelligence Analyst with NRO, NGA, ODNI, Lockheed, Boeing, SAIC
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S6 Ep 6Liam Breck ~ Software Entrepreneur, Philosopher
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S6 Ep 5Congressional UFO Hearing Walk-Through, September 9, 2025
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John Ramirez ~ Retired CIA Officer, Experiencer
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S6 Ep 3Leslie and Stephen Shaw ~ Journalist and Experiencer, Authors
Send a textJoin Us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Leslie and Stephen's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Who-They-Are-What-Theyre/dp/B0BKCQ363C/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 Music by John Hubbell: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S6 Ep 2Michael Michaud ~ Diplomat, Author, SETI Protocol Creator
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S6 Ep 1Dr. Jeffrey Kripal ~ Professor, Author, Archives of the Impossible Founder
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S5 Ep 13John Priestland ~ uNHidden Founder and Chairman
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S5 Ep 12Dr. William Parsons ~ Professor of Religion, Archives of the Impossible Contributor
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S5 Ep 11Kharisma Montes de Oca ~ City Planner, Law Student, Legal Researcher
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S5 Ep 10Victor Viggiani ~ Researcher, Journalist, Podcast Host, Founder of Zland Communications
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S5 Ep 9Dr. Tania Searle ~ Professor of Sociology and Health Science
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S5 Ep 8Matt Laslo ~ Journalist, Professor, Public Speaker, Founder of AskaPol Politics
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S5 Ep 7Dr. Massimo Teodorani ~ Astrophysicist, Author, Musician
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S5 Ep 6David Gladstone ~ Author, Experiencer
Send a textDavid is a lifelong experiencer with some wild personal encounters. We take an uncritical trip through his stories and get his views on the cosmic situation. Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S5 Ep 5Chad Wanless ~ UAP Video Analysis
Send a textThis episode is primarily visual, so you may enjoy watching on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Dm7qAi2aLb8 Chad and Caleb walk through a video analysis for the first fifteen minutes, then Chad expands his presentation on potential evidence of warp propulsion in UAP videos for the rest of the show. Is this video real? We obviously don't know. It does seem too good to be true, but it has a few details that make it seem potentially real. Neither of us is an expert in special effects, so we'd love to hear what any SFX experts think. Chad's First WTUFO: https://youtu.be/NRAY9qFt2UY TikTok Video Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@md_ridoy_ahmed145/video/7209117204732841217 Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S5 Ep 4Lacey Jay Forbes ~ Experiencer, Author, Vlogger, Spiritual Researcher
Send a textLacey is an author, vlogger and spiritual researcher. We discuss her investigations into spiritual realities, her UFO sighting, and her experience of encountering an unidentified being. Show Links: Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Support WTUFO on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Lacey's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Seek-Ye-Shall-Find-Gateway/dp/B0C9SDCGF6 Lacey’s Being Encounter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f9UE8rEw6c Links from Lacey: "What the Vedas say about extraterrestrial life?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3cJ2BIM4X4 "The lower planets (understanding the Vedic Universe #3)"https://youtu.be/WSa0v4-j-WI?si=MW9T4kXZgU7ARcd5 "Higher and Lower Realms of the Vedic Universe (Devas and Asuras)"https://youtu.be/8IMANoh4Mus?si=YH2B3rwzZQWhccbW "Upper Planets and Celestial Beings (Understanding the Vedic Universe #2)"https://youtu.be/VABMTfz13AI?si=REvB5W3ozPbOv0Av "The Mysterious Universe of the Vedas (Vedic Cosmology, new series #1)"https://youtu.be/IfU5ERlTqpQ?si=8N1Xfmv6goA56R8o Examples of the Spirit realm on TV: Green Snake Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iso7KRWhjNk (Asuraville) The Monkey King (which is about the Spirit realms) https://youtu.be/5vc_ndiUMcg?si=dV0dAqWVcjYKmeti Elemental Kingdoms/ Spirit realm: "Ice Fantasy" (Kind of like Avatar the last Airbender with the Elements) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h86VphklkSE What happens in the Afterlife? "Defending your life" 1991 - https://www.bitchute.com/video/LKmo7L7A32h1 Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S5 Ep 3Deborah Ward ~ Research Librarian
Send a textDeborah holds two master's degrees and built a career directing the administration of health science libraries and other specialized collections. She comes to the UAP topic as a curious learner with a passion for organizing information. In this episode, Deborah and Caleb lay out their rundown of introductory resources for people learning about UAP, from books to podcasts to supporting documents of various kinds. They've started gathering some of these documents in the UAP Resources page of wtufo.com here: https://wtufo.com/category/uap-resources/ One correction: Caleb describes the New Paradigm Institute as an academic organization in this episode, and that's really more the province of its partner Ubiquity University. New Paradigm Institute is a nonprofit advocacy organization focused mostly on raising awareness of UAP and working toward military transparency, including by pursuing legal action. You can check out their site here: https://newparadigminstitute.org/ And Ubiquity University here: https://www.ubiquityuniversity.org/ Deb's CV: https://library.missouri.edu/contactus/ward/ Join WTUFO: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S5 Ep 2Dr. Jörg Matthias Determann ~ Author of Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life
Send a textDr. Determann is the author of Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life: The Culture of Astrobiology in the Muslim World and a professor of history at Virginia Commonwealth University in Qatar. He joins WTUFO to explore intersections between the UAP phenomenon and Islamic thought. Islam, Science Fiction and Extraterrestrial Life: The Culture of Astrobiology in the Muslim World: https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Science-Fiction-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0755650360 Islamic Theology and Extraterrestrial Life: New Frontiers in Science and Religion: https://www.amazon.com/Islam-Science-Fiction-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0755601270 Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/wtufo Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Shop Spacefare: https://spacefare.etsy.com Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S5 Ep 1Michael Kelly - Experiencer Researcher
Send a textMichael Kelly uses the skills from his philosophy degree and graduate-level teaching assistant work to research reports of encounters with nonhuman beings. He is a research fellow at the Archives of the Impossible, though he appears here entirely in a personal capacity. We discuss the striking data that emerges from experiencer reports, from the kinds of beings people report meeting to the types of encounters they describe. Michael shares data graphics in the YouTube version of this episode, which you can find here https://youtu.be/WXpbtZJBTVQ Music by John Hubbell https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Produced by Spacefare https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO to help it keep existing https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 13Dr. Janis Whitlock ~ Developmental Psychologist, Research Scientist Emerita, Visible College Leadership, John Mack Institute Adviser
ESend a text Dr. Janis Whitlock is a developmental psychologist and research scientist emerita from Cornell University, renowned for her work in adolescent mental health and self-injury recovery. In recent years, she has expanded her scholarly pursuits into the realm of UAP studies. As a member of the leadership team of The Visible College, a volunteer collective of scholars dedicated to serious UAP research, Dr. Whitlock explores the intersections of human consciousness, trauma, and anomalous phenomena. Her interdisciplinary approach integrates scientific inquiry with spiritual and psychological perspectives, aiming to deepen our understanding of human potential and the broader implications of UAP encounters. We discuss mysterious communication with nonhuman beings, negotiating ontological updates with our peers, and how to keep our heads on straight as we navigate this time of intense change for our species. Support the Show: https://www.patreon.com/wtufo Spacefare Shop: spacefare.etsy.com Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 12Chad Wanless and Dave Palachik ~ UAP Researchers, Authors and Field Study Engineers
Send a textChad Wanless is an Engineering Technologist with over 30 years of experience in mechanical design, specializing in optics and lighting technologies. Professor Dave Palachik is a Senior Electrical & Electronic Engineering Technologist, National Director Emeritus of MUFON Canada, and an expert in infrared and electronic security systems. We discuss their book "Hidden in Plain Sight: Evidence of Exotic UFO Propulsion," which proposes that UAP create visible gravitational lensing around themselves. This theory provides a promising avenue for future research, and implies that these craft may use some form of spacetime warping drive. Music by John Hubbell https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop https://spacefare.etsy.com Support WTUFO https://www.patreon.com/wtufo Show Links: Chad and Dave's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-Sight-Evidence-Propulsion-ebook/dp/B0F2N7KNKJ/ MUFON Canada https://mufoncanada.com/ UFO Video Described in Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhWDaA7qK4 The Rubber Duck UFO Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZ_Zb0GdI4 Rob Freeman UFO World Explorer, Marysburgh episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxBDE1ZeFo Harold White https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_G._White UFO DAP https://ufodap.com/ ACE - alien cosmic expo CSSAA (site under construction) https://cssaa.org/ Santilli - Dark Light https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304339066_Apparent_Detection_via_New_Telescopes_with_Concave_Lenses_of_Otherwise_Invisible_Terrestrial_Entities_ITE Chad and Dave's Contact Page https://true-experiences.ca/ Chad on X https://x.com/CWanlessAuthor Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 11Ralph Blumenthal ~ Investigative Journalist, Author, Professor
Send a textRalph is a distinguished professor, journalist and author with a long and varied career. He's contributed especially significantly to the UFO conversation in recent years with his bombshell reporting and his deep, detailed biography of John Mack, the Harvard psychiatrist who investigated abduction experiences. We discuss the experiencer phenomenon, the stubborn mysteries at the heart of UAP research, and how other journalists and news editors can better approach this subject with intellectual rigor. Ralph's Faculty Page: https://www.baruch.cuny.edu/profiles/faculty/Ralph-Blumenthal "The Believer" John Mack Biography: https://www.amazon.com/Believer-Alien-Encounters-Science-Passion/dp/0826362311 Ralph's 2017 Times Story: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html 2019 Times Story: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html 2023 Debrief Story: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/ Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 10Dr. Jacob Haqq Misra ~ Director and Senior Research Investigator, Blue Marble Space Institute of Science
Send a textDr. Misra is an astrobiologist interested in understanding the origin, distribution, and future of life. His research includes the study of planetary habitability, extraterrestrial life, environmental ethics, and space settlement. Jacob contributes to monthly meetings with the Galileo Project, and he supports public funding for UAP research. We discuss the search for exobiology, the state of SETI and METI, and the emerging field of UAP science. Jacob's Site: https://www.haqqmisra.net/home Blue Marble Space: https://bmsis.org/ Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 9Dr. Michael Bohlander ~ Chair in Global Law and SETI Policy, Durham University
Send a textDr. Bohlander is an international criminal lawyer. We discuss his book, Contact with Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Human Law. Dr. Bohlander's Staff Page: https://www.durham.ac.uk/staff/michael-bohlander/Contact with ETI and Human Law: https://brill.com/display/title/68174UAP and SETI Symposium: https://www.durham.ac.uk/departments/academic/law/news-and-events/events/2025/04/grounding-the-seti-and-uap-debate-law-evidence-and-anticipated-futures/ Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/wtufoSpacefare Shop: www.spacefare.etsy.comMusic by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 8Preston Dyches ~ Science Communicator
Send a textPreston speaks with us entirely in a personal capacity, not representing his organization. Preston has built an impressive and varied career as a science communicator, including holding as a Senior Public Engagement Specialist & Story Strategist for NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab, where he helps communicate scientific discoveries from the cutting edge of astronomy. We discuss the solar system, the art of science narrative, and how to think clearly about UAP. We had a fun, thoughtful conversation. Hope you enjoy! Music by John Hubbell https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop https://spacefare.etsy.com Support the Show https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO NASA JPL What's Up Series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTbF6EsIsg4&list=PLTiv_XWHnOZrT_ppDGiT__fI3yjD4t7dI Preston's Site https://www.prestondyches.com/skywatching Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 7Leslie Kean ~ Independent Investigative Journalist
Send a textLeslie Kean has done more than almost anyone else to advance the contemporary UFO conversation. Her 2017 New York Times article changed the landscape overnight by introducing the world to the Navy UFO videos, Lue Elizondo, and AATIP. In 2019, she reported on pilot sightings by Ryan Graves and others in another widely read Times article. In 2023, she broke the story of David Grusch's whistleblower report in a famous piece for The Debrief. Leslie wrote her first UFO story in 2000 for the Boston Globe, and in 2011, she published her book "UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record," which remains one of the clearest and most useful works ever written on this challenging topic. She also produces the series "UFOs: Investigating the Unknown," which offers an excellent, serious introduction to the subject. Both seasons are available now here: https://www.hulu.com/series/4c1070e7-5b4d-46e1-a5ee-b9eb0c7db18c Finally, Leslie has explored other mysterious phenomena in her book "Surviving Death: A Journalist Explores the Evidence for an Afterlife," which was adapted by Netflix for a series of the same name: https://www.netflix.com/title/80998853 We're extremely grateful to Leslie for her sharp, clear, insightful and courageous work, and we're honored that she shared her time and wisdom with us for this conversation. Show note—we discuss the Wilson-Davis memo briefly, but only to establish its provenance. The TLDR on this document is that it contains the notes from an alleged conversation between physicist Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas R. Wilson. According to these notes, Wilson told Davis that in his role as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he uncovered a secret UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program while conducting an audit of Defense expenditures, and the program heads refused to give him direct access, despite his high rank. The Admiral has called this memo fiction, but as we discuss in this episode, he may have been legally required to do so if the program was or is real. You can read the memo in full here, or access the Congressional record version below: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20074164-wilson-davis-document/ ~ Show Links ~ Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com Support the Show: patreon.com/WTUFO Leslie's Site: https://www.lesliekean.com/ Leslie's UFO Show: https://www.hulu.com/series/4c1070e7-5b4d-46e1-a5ee-b9eb0c7db18c Leslie's UFO Book: https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Officials/dp/0307717089/ Leslie's Afterlife Book: https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Death-Journalist-Investigates-Afterlife/dp/0451497147/ 2020 Globe Article: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-leslie-kean-boston-ufo/148614188/ 2017 Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html 2019 Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html 2023 Debrief Article: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/ Wilson-Davis Memo (Congressional Record Version): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20074164-wilson-davis-document/ Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 6Dr. Michael Zimmerman ~ Author, Philosophy Professor, Experiencer Researcher
Send a textDr. Zimmerman has led a long, fruitful career in philosophy and academia, pioneering work on environmental and technological subjects. He also collaborated with John Mack on research into abduction experiences and served on the board of Mack's nonprofit to advance that project. We discuss Michael's view of the experiencer phenomenon, his work with Mack, the potential qualities of NHI, and broader topics in consciousness, philosophy, and the nature of reality. Dr. Zimmerman's Papers: Encountering Alien Otherness https://www.academia.edu/82397884/Encountering_Alien_Otherness The "Alien Abduction" Phenomenon https://philpapers.org/rec/ZIMT-3 Michael on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Zimmerman John Mack Institute http://johnemackinstitute.org/ Est-Training https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training Ken Wilber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber David Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Jacobs Communion https://www.amazon.com/Audible-Communion/dp/B0B4F3NRCQ Program for Extraordinary Experiences http://johnemackinstitute.org/2003/01/program-for-extraordinary-experience-research-peer/ Bruce Maccabee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Maccabee Chariots of the Gods? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F UFOs and Nukes https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Nukes-Extraordinary-Encounters-Nuclear/dp/1544822197 Karin Austin https://impossiblearchives.rice.edu/john-e-mack-gift-panel-discussion/karin-austin Reddit Alleged Alien Autopsy Doc https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14rp7w9/from_the_late_2000s_to_the_mid2010s_i_worked_as_a/ Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 5Dr. Jack Sarfatti ~ Theoretical Physicist
ESend a textDr. Jack Sarfatti is a sparkling, adventurous thinker, and he's been applying his technical acumen to UFOs in various ways for an astounding 70 years. Jack says he was charged by the CIA in 1974 with investigating consciousness and UFOs, and in the years since then he believes he has successfully developed physics explanations for both. We discuss Dr. Sarfatti's career, his ideas about the physics of UFOs, his intersections with intelligence officers and other serious researchers, and the intriguing childhood event that helped set him on the path of investigating the phenomenon. Buckle up for a wild ride and bring your thinking caps. Jack has a freewheeling style that hops across time, space and reality, always with a twinkling grin. Show Note ~ Jack mentioned in a comment that he made a mistake toward the end of this conversation. Here's his note: @JackSarfatti: "I screwed up at the end. Spin 0,1, 2 create repulsive anti-gravity dark energy. Spin 1/2 creates attractive gravity dark matter." Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com WTUFO Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Dr. Sarfatti ~ UAP Physics Primer: https://vimeo.com/554469177 Dr. Sarfatti ~ Relativity and Warp Drives: https://vimeo.com/878602695 How the Hippies Saved Physics: https://www.amazon.com/dp/039334231X Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 4Alejandro Rojas ~ UAP Discovery CEO, Enigma Labs Consultant, SCU Founding Member
Send a textAlejandro is president and CEO of the non-profit UAP Discovery and a consultant for Enigma Labs, which has developed a UAP reporting app and alert network. He also runs the UAP news website OpenMinds.tv. Alejandro is a founding member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) and a former board member. He is also the former functioning director of education and spokesperson for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). He has spent over 20 years researching and writing about UFOs and over ten years as a full-time employee doing this work. Alejandro's articles have appeared in the Huffington Post and Den of Geek, and he's been featured in numerous documentaries, television shows, and news interviews. We discuss common UFO sighting mistakes, the state of UAP science, and best practices for healthy dialogue on this exciting and sometimes heated subject. Alejandro's Links: https://linktr.ee/alejandrotrojas UAP Discovery: https://uapdiscovery.org/ Enigma Labs: https://www.enigmalabs.io/ Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com WTUFO Patreon: patreon.com/WTUFO Support the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

S4 Ep 3Dr. Kimberly Engels ~ Philosophy Professor, John Mack Institute Director of Research and Development
Send a textDr. Engels teaches philosophy at Molloy University, specializing in existentialism and phenomenology. She also leads Research and Development at the John Mack Institute, where she works to bring experiencer narratives into more scientific and public frameworks, and teaches independent courses on Shamanism and UFO/UAP experiences. We discuss the state of experiencer research and the intersection of Dr. Engels' philosophical specialties with the UFO/NHI phenomenon. Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com WTUFO Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-treesSupport the showSupport WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow