Washed Up Emo

Welcome to episode 73 of the podcast. Today we’re talking about the story of Tom DeLonge’s fake review of Blink 182’s new album California. Right after the record came out, a friend posted this review from Reddit on Facebook and I couldn’t stop laughing. The references were amazing and I jokingly said, “hey whoever wrote this I wanna talk to you.” Low and behold, Mike Jones who wrote the fake review, followed me on Facebook and we connected to chat about the review. We also chatted about how long he’s been doing these type of reviews, and if he hope Tom reads this review. If you’d like to read the fake review beforehand, head to WashedUpEmo.com and I’ve linked it on the podcast episode page. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to episode 72 of the Washed Up Emo podcast. This episode we speak to Dave and Al from Milemarker. Lovitt Records is releasing their new album “Overseas” on August 26th, Milemarker’s first new music in over a decade. If they’re coming to town, go see them. A true original from the late 90s. Al and Dave chatted all the way from Germany for this one so there may be a few audio issues. Hey, it’s free. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part 2 of 2 of a special two part series on the history of Vagrant Records with co-founder Rich Egan. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part 1 of 2 of a special two part series on the history of Vagrant Records with co-founder Rich Egan. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome singer and bass player Michael Fiorentino from the band Somos. Somos have a new album called First Day Back on Hopeless Records and are one of my favorite bands from this new era of independent punk. Michael and I chatted about growing up the scene and his struggles with mental illness. If you know about Somos or not, I am sure you’ll enjoy this episode. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recently I had the pleasure of getting a very nice email and request for an interview from Andrew who has a radio show called Emo Rock/Emo Talk on 91.9 KSDB, the college station of Kansas State University. Andrew really knew his history and I was honored to share the airwaves with his selections of tunes, which also included an interview with Modern Baseball. Andrew was kind enough to record this recent airing of Emo Rock/Emo Talk for you to hear as well. We discuss DIY culture, college radio, being positive and what else, emo music. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Erik from Dowsing. Soon after the boom of the term emo revival, I found Dowsing through the fantastic label Count Your Lucky Stars. More recently they’ve released a new album on Asian Man entitled “Okay.” Erik, while on tour supporting “Okay” had time to chat with us about his upbringing in the New Brunswick NJ, the independent scene and what’s next for Dowsing. Erik gives a fantastic look into the next generation of independent punk. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode we welcome Evan Weiss and Josh Sparks from Into It. Over it. Recently Evan and Josh were in NYC and we had some time to catch up before their show. We touched on recording in Vermont, the independent scene, the last time we all head walked and what’s next for the band. It was fantastic to spend time with Evan and Josh. Be sure to check out all of his music and without fail they’re out on the road in a town near you. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode we welcome Geoff from Orchid. Who is Orchid you might be asking? A pioneering screamo band from Massachusetts. Friends of Washed Up Emo connected us to Geoff who works at UCB Theatre here in NYC teaching sketch comedy. Lesson? Being a hugely influential screamo band doesn’t pay the bills. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we welcome Steven Hyden, a music critic you may know previously from AV Club and Grantland. He also hosts a podcast, called Celebration Rock. Finally, Steven is an author and has a book coming out May 17th called Your Favorite Band is Killing Me, where he explores nineteen music rivalries and what they say about life. Steven is a big fan of punk and independent music and was nice enough to spend an hour with us talking about his life, and giving us a sneak peak into some of the themes in the book. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I tend to protect the word emo online to a fault. A few months back a site called Polygraph run by Matthew Daniels released a data visualization of what punk bands were considered punk, post, screamo, etc. Based on Spotify playlists. The emo category consisted of mostly mid 00s era stuff with some alt rock, etc. Just way off. It went like this. I tweeted at him angrily. He wrote back nicely. We talked on the phone, then he came to my apt to talk me off the ledge. While you’re listening check out Polygraph (poly-graph.co). This was an insanely interesting conversation about data. I promise you’re learn something about music and habits we all have now with access to everything at any moment. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode we welcome Bernie McGinn. Who is Bernie McGinn you might ask? Well Bernie started Caulfield Records back in 1988 to release a record by the band Sideshow. After that Caulfield Records went on to release music by Mercy Rule, Christie Front Drive, Mineral, Giants Chair, Broken Hearts are Blue, Opium Taylor, Germbox and many more. A true originator in the scene. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For episode 61, we welcome Barry Lott from the band Camber. You may know that band name from the First Deep Elm Emo Diaries compilation. They were track 2, right after Jimmy Eat World. Camber have a very special place in my heart. Their debut album was the first record I was ever sent at the college radio station and helped kickstart my journey into emo itself. Barry and I talk about Camber’s history, the NYC scene in the 90s and what everyone is up to now. Hope you enjoy. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 60 we welcome Brian Lowit. Brian started Lovitt Records and works at Dischord Records. Lovitt Records since 1995 has put out some amazing bands and a big part of my college years going to school in the south. Bands like Engine Down, Four Hundred Years, Milemarker and Sleepytime Trio. Brian also shed light on working at Dischord and we spent a good chunk on a festival called MacRock that we both attended. Search out this label, search out these bands and keep digging. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 59 we welcome Christian Holden from The Hotelier. Their last album “Home, Like Noplace Is There” was a huge record for me and many who listen to this podcast. Late last year Christian was in NYC on tour and had some time to hang out in the van to chat. You may hear some doors opening/closing, cell phone beeps, sirens. out of our control. It’s NYC… In this episode, we discuss many things including The Hotelier’s start in Massachusetts, DIY culture and the upcoming album “Goodness” out on Tiny Engines in May. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You can thank Cloud Nothings and Desaparecidos for The Starting Line’s most recent 7” entitled “Anyways.” Kenny spoke highly of those two bands and how it got him excited to write in the style of The Starting Line again. It’s only fitting that Kenny is the next podcast after Jon Bunch spoke so highly of him in episode 57. Kenny straddles that line of being old enough to know the past but be involved in the mid 00 emo wave and has some amazing perspective on it. I learned a lot and have a great respect for his music. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I will never forget that the first thing Jon did when he picked up the phone for the podcast. He asked about my life and took the time to find out more about Washed Up Emo before the interview even started. I was blown away at how humble he was but also so proud of his life's work. It’s an honor to be able to present a small slice of Jon that many of his friends and family know so well. I count myself included. This podcast is supposed to be evergreen. You can listen in 5 years or in 10 years and know a good chunk of that band or era and some context to the scene and a way to look back but also look ahead. Jon was that last point to a T. He was so happy talking about the history but also his new music and what was next. Sadly, this was the last interview Jon did. I can only hope those close or those who have no idea who Jon Bunch was take and learn something from one of the most important voices in not only the independent scene but music in general. I am eternally grateful Jon took the time to talk with me about his life that will thankfully live on in aural form so someone can stumble upon Jon's music forever. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 56 is with co-creators Phil Matarese and Mike Luciano of the new HBO animated series Animals. It premieres February 5th, today or depending when you listen to this, it’s on demand. Phil and Mike happen to be huge fans of punk/hardcore/emo and took time out of their day in NYC to hang with me at the HBO offices and chat about the show and music. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Episode 55 of the Washed Up Emo Podcast. Today we welcome John Nolan from Taking Back Sunday and Straylight Run. We spoke about the bands formation, his upbringing on Long Island and what’s next for himself and Taking Back Sunday. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 54 we welcome Nic Newsham, best know from Gatsby’s American Dream! He has a new project The Money Pit with Bobby Darling, also from Gatsby’s American Dream. We spoke recently with Nic about Gatsby’s musical life, Warped Tour, which label told them to put on eyeliner and my favorite topic, crab core. If there are any edits in this episode, it’s me laughing. We had a blast. Hope you enjoy! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode we welcome Garrett Klahn. Garrett has been in a ton of bands including Texas is the Reason, New Rising Sons, Solea, Atlantic/Pacific and a successful solo run along the way. His FIRST solo album just came out and to speak about that, Garrett trekked over to my apartment in Manhattan to chat. Hope you enjoy. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Episode 52 of the Washed Up Emo Podcast, this podcast is part of the Jabberjaw Media Podcast network. You can find out about all the shows on JabberjawMedia.com. This episode I talk to writer/musician Jonah Bayer. You’ve possibly read his work in Law of Inertia, most certainly his work at Alternative Press or quite possibly a joke said by Steven on Steven’s Untitled Rock Show. If not, his popular podcast Going Off Track or you've probably seen him in the band United Nations playing guitar… Now that I think of it, you can’t get away from him. That aside… If you’ve ever thought about writing about your favorite music and living to tell about it and keep your friends, well most of them, you’ll certainly enjoy this episode. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 51 we welcome Jason Gnewikow from The Promise Ring! We talk about his professional career, designed for his own band and friends, plus his drive to create and how he started in graphic design. This podcast is part of the Jabberjaw Media Podcast Network (JabberJawMedia.com) Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you want to be inspired as a musician or music fan? Spend the next 45 minutes with James Alex from Beach Slang. The band recently released "The Things We Do to Find People Who Feel Like Us" and it's my record of the year, hands down. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We welcome Josh Fiedler from The Juliana Theory. We talk about everything you’ve been wondering about the band. A must listen for any fan of this band or era. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike O’Brien, writer and comedian, is down with hardcore. We talk about stage divers at every show, his love for Rainer Maria, Avail and his band no one will hear ever. Mike’s new sketch comedy album called “Tasty Radio” is available October 30th. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I saw a tweet from Frank Turner not long ago about nu metal. It struck a chord, albeit one in Drop C tuning. When Frank arrived in NYC promoting his recent “Positive Songs for Negative People” album we sat down for a few minutes chatting about a music past we both share. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A conversation between Ray Harkins (100 Words or Less Podcast) and myself about our respective podcasts and friendship. Most importantly the "true history" of screamo is discussed once and for all. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Boys Life are back for a reunion and reissue of “Departures and Landfalls.” John Rejba joined us recently to talk about the reunion, skateboarding with James Dewees and joining up with Topshelf Records. A true pioneering band that should be welcomed back with open arms. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Todd Bell joined us in Bushwick, Brooklyn while on tour with Braid for a chat about the old days, his record collection and thoughts about the scene happening today. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Felumlee from Smoking Popes joins us for a chat about the 80s and 90s in Chicago, movie soundtracks, playing with Alkaline Trio and his new band The Bigger Empty. The Washed Up Emo Podcast is sponsored by Epitaph Records. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Refused left us in 1998 to never return, though in 2012 they came back for a victory lap. Thankfully the band wanted to continue making music. A new album is here in 2015 and the world is better for it. Recently the band stopped in NYC and I had the chance to sit with Dennis and David to talk about their hardcore roots and new album “Freedom.” Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jimmy Eat World are taking off the better part of a year. What does the drummer do with that down time after 20+ years on the road? Zach Lind spends as much time as he can with his wife Holly and in time, they started making music together. I talk to both of them about their side project The Wretched Desert, faith, thoughts on emo and how they kept in touch in those early days of Jimmy Eat World. I also found out from our chat that Zach probably served me popcorn at minor league baseball games I attended 30 years ago. Jimmy Eat small World. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joseph and I discuss how the band met in high school, remembering to wait for things in the mail and the actual feeling of emo. I give in a little to the swoop era and Joseph explains his learnings from his rocker days that he takes to managing bands today. Finally, we discus The Early November's latest album "Imbue." Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I sat down with writers Andrew Sacher and Ian Cohen separately to talk about covering emo for their publications. Both of them provided fantastic insight into why we're in this so-called "emo revival," how polarizing this genre can be for many and what if the emo bubble of the 2000s never happened?! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

An absolutely beautiful discussion with Norman Brannon (Texas is the Reason), Jason Gnewikow (The Promise Ring) and Steve Pedulla (Thursday) on how they met, their lives and how they're stayed close to this day. Hope you enjoy this special episode taped live at Union Hall in Brooklyn. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lars Gotrich from NPR Music has hands down written and supported some of the best up and coming bands from the independent scene today. A fan his writing already, his recommendations on music were always a required listen. Halfway through the recording of the podcast I realized, some of our musical upbringing overlapped. It became clear then why I connected so well to his writing. Lars is a true independent voice on music among a quickly crowded scene of clickbait opinions. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of my favorite writers on today's scene is David Anthony. We sad down not long ago to discuss the state of music, his upbringing and thoughts on the scene moving forward. I learned a ton from this chat and I hope you do too. Fun fact: David was one of the first to check out the podcast and support it. Happy to have him on! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when you put five people in a room to discuss the emo revival? Lots and lots of laughs. Late last year, CMJ asked Washed Up Emo to moderate a panel to discuss the revival and we were up the task. For the panel we had a great group of young and old perspectives with Norman Brannon (Texas is the Reason, Collect Records), Kevin Duquette (Topshelf Records), Sean Moran (No Sleep Records) and Brian Pacris (The Syndicate, co-host of #EmoNightNYC). See? Emo ain't all about sadness. (Note: We only had three microphones so it may be hard to hear some questions from the audience.) Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When you have a musical career as long as Chris Carrabba, there's bound to be some reflection. I sat down with Chris face to face in New York City to discuss his musical life. This was largely unedited with many pauses and air left between question and answer. We dive into his upbringing, the Florida scene and Fiddler Records, the mid 2000s emo boom and what he wants most from his music. An absolutely beautiful soul that’s worthy of his own revival. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Geoff Farina of Karate’s first response to my request to be on the podcast wasn’t the best. Truth be told, he’s not a fan of his music from the late 90s. Ha, what a place to start. Years ago I had done Karate’s first interview ever for my high school zine and had completely ridiculous questions then for a 16 year old so at 36 I’d hope to be a bit better. Geoff couldn’t have been more pleasant and comfortable with himself, his music and life. Maybe it’s age or wisdom or just something someone have in themselves but I felt each moment I was learning something from the discussion. Through Geoff’s days in DC, his thoughts on emo, conserving music for future generations with his uncle and his new band Exit Verse, it was a pleasure to chat with Geoff. I hope you learn something too. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kevin Devine is one of the most genuine individuals I’ve ever met. He always gave me the time of day when I was performing in NYC many moons ago. To this day I’m impressed with his boundless energy and giving his heart and thoughts to anyone. It’s certainly paid off with a successful career touring the world. We discuss his involvement with the Emo Diaries compilation, the Staten Island scene and Honda Civic’s fantastic reliability. Our chat centers on what internal and external factors shape your life and how fucking up along the way isn’t such a bad thing. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Growing up a punk and metal fan in San Francisco doesn't seem like a fit for the podcast. But Sergie cut a different line through music to be a part of Samiam, one of the most revered bands on the west coast. I caught up with Sergie after the Knapsack reunion tour where we spoke about the 80s thrash scene happening in LA, his time with Solea and touring with Texas is the Reason plus what it meant to tour with Knapsack to such great audiences. Sergie also reads the worst review ever for Knapsack that I couldn't stop laughing about, what he really wants to do other than music and what two wishes he would ask a genie. Hope you enjoy. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, we are now part of it. One of the most requested guests, Travis Shettel from Piebald, sat down with me a few months back to chat about the band's history. We spoke about the Boston scene, their first name Dork Knob and some of the reasons for Piebald's break up. We also get an update on Travis' latest music endeavor with the Past Haunts. A true original in a scene full of copy cats, Piebald stood out for good reason, people are still talking about them to this day. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Frank Turner couldn’t wait to talk as he bounded to the back of the tour bus before his New York City gig at Terminal 5 late last year. When settled, he proclaimed that he never gets to talk about emo in any interview. Good start to say the least. After a full tour and pushing his latest album “Tape Deck Heart,” he relaxed instantly and in turn we had a great conversation. We spoke about his time with Kneejerk and Million Dead, his upbringing in the UK and how he found out about emo and hardcore plus Mineral’s influence and his favorite emo band I Hate Myself. Needless to say, we got along. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recently, I got together with Mike Kinsella for the podcast who in these circles needs no introduction. Alas, for those unaware, he has been a part of some of the most revered bands in the scene from the last 90s through today. His work with Cap'n Jazz, American Football, Owls, Owen and Their / They're / There and Joan of Arc has influenced countless individuals and bands to pursue music. We talk about his upbringing, using maps while touring Europe, an upcoming American Football release, renaming "Never Meant" so it's funnier when someone yells it out at an Owen show and of course, the future. One thing is for sure, there is plenty of music left in Mr. Kinsella. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After meeting Eric Richter from Christie Front Drive through a friend in the early 2000s, I got to ask all the questions I had pent up since high school about the early days of Christie Front Drive touring and connecting with the likes of Mineral, Boys Life and Jimmy Eat World. I was always intrigued about that connection with Jimmy Eat World and after interviewing Jim Adkins for the podcast, I couldn't wait to get them both in a room. Schedules aligned this year and almost instinctively I stepped out of the way on this one. No need for questions when two friends get in the room. In this episode, you will hear Eric and Jim discuss how they did their first 7" together, the Capitol Records years for Jimmy Eat World and plenty of stories from the road. To be able to put this together and hear Eric and Jim wax poetic on the early days of their bands was a dream come true and a first for the podcast. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, I chat with Knapsack drummer Colby Mancasola about the origins of the band, working with Mark Trombino, never having a website and hearing the “next big thing” thrown around in a post-Nirvana world. Plus, find out what the famous record executive Jimmy Iovine said to Knapsack after a showcase in Los Angeles. It’s exactly what you think he would say. It was great to hear their story told and to learn how many bands that we know and love all intersected at one point on tour or in conversation with Knapsack. A true connector in the scene before social media and a 4 inch screen took over our lives. "Honestly, 15 years ago if you would have said, people are going to give a shit in 2013, I would have thought you were crazy." Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Saves the Day, at it since 1997, has had their share of ups and downs but through it all they struck a chord with fans and still do to this day. I had the pleasure of having Saves the Day be my one and only band I ever booked. Sold out pizza restaurant in the middle of North Carolina after only booking one boysetsfire show. Take that Facebook Events. Also, vivid memories of worn out cassette tapes of "Can't Slow Down" and "Through Being Cool" that are still so near and dear to my heart. Chris was gracious enough to sit down with WashedUpEmo.com prior to their latest headlining tour in support of the new self-titled album. We spoke about Saves the Day's first show, the term "Emo Rock Stars," meanings behind the song "Shoulder to The Wheel," who designed one of their classic album covers and Chris' favorite Sean McGrath memory. Listening back, it's great to see how happy Chris is at this point in his life and how much he is enjoying the ride. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ben from Armor for Sleep and I go back to his days on EVR and the "What To Do When You Are Dead" album, that I spent two years of my life working on. I was learning so much about the music industry and completely naive that a small indie label could compete with the majors in radio and video. What a fun ride and it was great to spend a little time with Ben talking about his life, music and what he is up to now. Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices