Waking Up From Work

E71: Today we hang with Mike of Durkish Delight. Digital art, murals, and lots more. Durkish is a networker by nature connecting with people around the world from IG, TikTok, and google maps while making art. We talk on enjoying the process and seeing the light at the end of the 9 to 5 tunnel. We also go over our own tendencies as entrepreneurs and creatives to be cyclical in creating our own problems to fight away. I think all of us in this life do that to some degree. Come hang out and chat across mediums and lifestyle living a creative life full time. In This Episode We Cover Seeing a glimpse of full time coming Transitioning from full time job to full time creative work Don’t position yourself for regret Digital art & murals Enjoy the early stages Every project brings you closer You don’t know what doors will lead to what The world could end tomorrow Happiness as the main focus Looking back on achievements Networking and connecting Creating your own problems Quotes “I always try to think ahead to I’m gonna be old with wrinkley skin some day. I don’t want to be 90 and regret that I was too scared to take the chance on what I love.” - Durkish Delight “In life there are challenges, thats always gonna be there so you gotta enjoy it as you go.” - Durkish Delight “You can’t see it when you’re in it, it’s like standing too close to a mural but not seeing the big picture to understand the beauty.” - Host Dave Swillum Durkish Delight’s Website & Links Website https://www.durkishdelights.com/ Insta @durkishdelights TikTok @durkishdelights Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Artist/Durkish-Delights-106108464118578/ Durkish’s Noted Resources & Artists Creative Pep Talk Podcast https://www.creativepeptalk.com/episodes Creative Guts Podcast https://www.creativegutspodcast.com/ Abstract Thinking Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/abstract-thinking-create-your-best-art/id1416645086 Color palettes and ideas pinterest.com Insta’s he recommends @ryanwritesonthings @mona.essence Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Merch To Support Us! https://wakeup.itemorder.com/sale?fbclid=IwAR30nyVXdpFaax0mN0CRcC_mVjNzafbMo0spds82eoG-GMo01HG6Uq0dvzw Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E70: No Means Why & How We all hear no everyday but it’s how we perceive that answer and response with actions that defines who achieves and who doesn’t. You can’t make a living doing that, you can’t get a loan for that, you can’t afford it, you can’t ever live that way……. When I hear no I am thinking about WHY they are saying it and HOW I will get around it to continue on my mission. Let’s talk about the different and sometimes secret ways people say no to us in our creative living journeys. No and yes never mean what we think when we analyze why they are being said and how we can move forward. In This Episode We Cover No doesn’t mean no, ask why, figure out how Friends and family judgement taken in Network Speaking with others that do what you do often No and Yes are circumstantial, these are arbitrary How can you do it? Why did someone or something say No? The why is important You will always hear no Mentors aren’t always right Good mentors challenge you but don’t stop you Quotes “ When someone says no it’s almost like an immediately how am I going to do this, like they didn't’ say anything. When someone builds a little damn in the river its going to pull off in different streams until it goes where it’s going to go, it’s going to go there.” - Host Dave Swillum “ In real life we know that there are thousands and thousands of people doing it in real life, but if we don’t go out and meet any of them it feels like its a TV show and isn’t possible. We need to network.” - Host Dave Swillum “You don’t need anything to start anything.” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Merch To Support Us! https://wakeup.itemorder.com/sale?fbclid=IwAR30nyVXdpFaax0mN0CRcC_mVjNzafbMo0spds82eoG-GMo01HG6Uq0dvzw Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E69: This week is a blend of how to brand a business aesthetically in person and digitally and how to create an experience. We hang with Hilary Lane of Craft Business Builders who talks on her story of starting her first business when she was 26 and going through realizations of what she did and didn’t want out of a business. Finding the parts we love and going all in. We speak through rejection and ways of making things work to get going along the way. After speaking through Hilary’s story we dive into speaking on knowing what type of business owner you are in your creative business and what it is trying to portray. Great blend of creative business, real estate, branding, and a story that will make you feel like you aren’t alone when things get tough along the way. In This Episode We Cover Trial by fire Bigger picture Don’t take no Ratings What part of the business do you love? Getting out when its wrong Break Friends moving, finding location Separating different brands What’s your message? How can you not afford it? Quotes “ Really, I feel like I can do a lot, but I’m not being given the opportunity to do everything I wanna do here and I’m not being challenged anymore. If I go to another job I feel like I’m just a dime a dozen.” - Hilary Lane “ Do whatever you have to do, guerrilla warfare to make it so you can do what you want to do.” - Host Dave Swillum “ I hate knowing how hard it is to run a business and how many of them are going to fail.” - Hilary Lane Hilary’s Recommended Resources How I Built This Podcast By Guy Raz https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-thisSearch Hilary’s Links IG @hillary.katherine @thenewhampshiregetaway @craftbusinessbuilders @getaway.homedesign Craft Business Builders https://www.craftbusinessbuilders.com/ Getaway Vacation Rentals https://www.getawayvacationproperties.com/?fbclid=IwAR12EOm0SvuDDkBFBPC8Y9M-FKFTxReU9IRvVsAu2dK6orIopiysQgqgL4I Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E68: Zachary and I met when he tuned in regularly watching our IG live show on Thursday nights, I hired him to take my band photos, and here we are! Zach and I talk about his getting into full time photography and looking for the human element and story of a project. Speaking about how to work with clients personalities, how to make a statement, and how to make photos work for you. If you like photography or want to go full time in the space this ones for you or anyone creative looking inside other projects, ways of getting into it, and the creative story telling from any medium In This Episode We Cover Changing paths Collaborative conversation Finding people through social to outside relationship What story are we trying to tell? Using YOUR medium to story tell Getting your ideas out there before you start working with others Filtering out clients to get the right fit Your stamp on your work The human element Quotes “ Because it looked like a trailer but it was actually a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house, the photos were that bad that I saved $40,000 on it, thats what good photos can do.” - Host Dave Swillum “ When we were doing the band shoot it was almost a conversation. I want to hear your input, you’re trying to put out the theme of your music, or the idea of your music.” - Zachary James “Using the thing that you have as a medium that you’re best with to convey a story, that’s what being a creative is.” - Host Dave Swillum Zach’s Recommended Resources @jorid.koalitic Zach’s Links Websites zacharyjamesphotography.net IG @zarcharyjames_photos Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E67: Creative Melting Pot & Navigating The Events Industry Through COVID & On I would say most of us believe creatives create more together. Today we speak to owner and founder Tim Messina of live event production company Events United and creative shared space Studio Lab both based out of the granite state. We talk about the mojo that comes from many different creative coming together in one space or for one purpose and the meaning and start to his businesses. Briefly touch in on finance and starting lean, navigating the COVID crises in the events industry, and the future of the industry and innovation. Lot’s to chew on here in business and creative. In This Episode We Cover The first investment to start Choosing a business name Working as a melting pot Passions that are slightly different How we use our time Working with what you have Adapt or die Event Industry through COVID Pushing virtual production boundaries Quotes “ If we don’t have the money then we aren’t in a place to own it.” - Guest Tim Messina “ If we break our lives into thirds, we have a third of our life where we are basically sleeping, a third of our life we are at home doing errands and things, and the last third we are working. One is sleeping thats fine but I want to make sure the other two we really love both.” - Guest Tim Messina “ The creatives are here, they live in different pockets and spots they just need more places to meet and create at, they are here.” - Host Dave Swillum Tim’s Recommended Resources How I Built This Podcast https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this Tim’s Links Websites Studio Lab https://www.studiolab.community/ Events United https://www.eventsunited.us/ IG @eventsunited.us @studio_lab_ Dropkick Murphy Live Stream 2020 at Studio Lab by Events United https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j06g0TE_Ao Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E66: What’s Your American Dream? Alternative Living Starter Home W/ Dave Swillum What is your American Dream? For many it feels like your first home but for even more it is the way they want to live their life in every aspect. In today’s time it isn’t that it is less enjoyable to own a home, it’s just that it can be challenging to own a traditional first home and NOT go down the path of working a 9 - 5 to keep up with the overhead. Many bail from their dream because their overhead keeps an uphill battle going forward and doesn’t provide the cover fire to get started. I want to talk about what your true goal is, if it is to buy a single family home and you like your job then that’s great! Super obtainable. But if your goal is more than that in this episode I talk on ways to live alternatively or change the perception of what your “starter” home looks like to come up with ways to minimize overhead, invest in assets that generate income or give yourself the cover fire to open a business or focus on creative. This is from hearing conversations of friends buying after wanting to talk to myself 6 years ago about something no one told me. What is your dream and what are you doing about it? Do they align with getting it done or is it a short term win that could look like something else to become a catalyst toward your goal? In This Episode We Cover What is your American Dream? What is the goal and what’s the actual goal? Buying your first home Killing your overhead Alternative living and housing What are you trying to do? What does that look like every day? Reverse engineer Don’t build a mountain to climb Quotes “ My priority for me is my way of life and how long do I get to have it?” - Host Dave Swillum “ Don’t get distracted because it feels like the goal and it feels good for the mean time for jeopardizing something that could be a long term goal for you.” - Host Dave Swillum “ The businesses that have the most leverage and the least overhead that they have to battle are the most likely to succeed for the longest, because you have time to react appropriately and not act through fear.” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E65: Every creative has technology waves that go through it at different speeds. We have seen AI and Machine Learning creeping into all the things we do but now it’s here in audio in a real way. In this episode we speak to Jay Maas engineer at Jay Maas recordings behind bands like Defeater, Bane, Transit, Title Fight, State Champs, Foreign Tongues, and on and on. Jay is also co-founder of Maastr an online AI based mastering software. For those that don’t do music that tune in, no doubt we speak music here but there’s something in this for everyone here. We talk about what it’s like to scale from a one:one business i.e. doing work for output to creating a software or other means that changes how you work through your day and how much impact you can have on others. Thanks for joining us! In This Episode We Cover Being controversial Eat your own lunch Removing pain AI in every industry Limiting friction to create Tools for artists Blurred lines Accessibility of technology Reverse engineering your actions Human emotion Efficiencies Client, the art, the product, and the relationship Quotes “ People rode horses for a really long time and there’s still a lot of money in riding horses. Anytime you try to get someone to ride a model T they say what do you mean I want to ride my horse.” - Jay Maas “ It never has a bad day, it’s never tired, it’s like taking the summation of all my best ideas and moments and making them into a concrete platform that you can utilize way, way faster than I could ever master personally and you can do it infinitely.” - Jay Maas “No one wants anymore barriers between where they’re at and where they want to be, I try to find the most direct path there.” - Jay Maas Jay’s Links: Master Your Stuff W/ Jay’s AI! Maastr www.maastr.io Jay’s Studio Site www.jaymaas.com Jay’s Recommended Resources Jay’s View On Life (mind blown!) Optimistic Nihilism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14 Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E64: This year I decided one of my 2020 goals was to run my first marathon. I scheduled the earliest one I could find in NH and booked it without knowing how I would train to get myself there never running more than 3 miles. COVID hit and canceled my marathon until next year but I wrote the goal this year. I decided to run it with my friend Nadine who has been helping me train from the beginning and we made it happen running from Portsmouth, NH to Wells, ME. We were pumped to raise about 2k for charities and was able to prove to myself that when I am passionate about a goal and set a date I will find out how it’s going to happen in the given amount of time no matter what. I don’t think a marathon is for everyone and encourage you to find what that is for you. But I think everyone can benefit from training or working towards something that SEEMS impossible but once it’s set you figure out how it WILL happen. Let’s talk on E64 In This Episode We Cover What is it like to train for a marathon? How can training help me? Year goals Set a date, make it happen Getting rid of bad energy Mental health Accountability Trust your gut! If you want it, you can have it, think therefore I am Stretch goal Give yourself the win Quotes “If I wrote something down as a goal, it’s happening.” - Dave Swillum “Sometimes you have no idea how something is possible at all, but you have to actually know it’s going to happen. Not in a way where you doubt yourself saying it’s going to happen, but in a way where your gut trusts its possible even if you don’t know how yet.” - Dave Swillum Dave’s Recommended Book Think & Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill https://amzn.to/2YO9UdX Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E63: Sarah is the other half of the Creative Guts Podcast. We spoke to Laura last week and wanted to get the other piece of the picture by speaking with Sarah and what makes her great. Sarah is passionate about work force housing working on the frontlines in NH to help keep people in the state and help them with the overhead living we face here and is a multifaceted creative. Sarah I and hang out and talk on what it’s like to get into your more creative side later in life, finding your creative abilities in everything you’ve done before, judgement and running your race and enjoying it. We also talk on overhead pressures economically and housing on millennials growing up going after what they want. In This Episode We Cover Gut reaction “Baby Deer Mode Creative” Functional Background Not racing towards success Enjoy the time Alternative living What needs to be done? Housing and economic pressures Quotes “ I think it’s going to be this life long race where I enjoy the process forever instead of thinking I can’t wait to be good enough or try to spring to being good.” - Sarah Wrightsman “ Pick up an art, it doesn’t even matter what it is, pick up anything. Don’t even learn it to be great at it, just learn it to learn it.” - Sarah Wrightsman Sarah Wrightsman & The Creative Gut’s Podcast Links Creative Gut’s Podcast Website https://www.creativegutspodcast.com/ IG @creativegutspodcast Workforce Housing Coalition www.seacoastwhc.org Stay Work Play - Sarah https://stayworkplay.org/blog/author/sarah/ Sarah’s Recommended Resources Stay Work Play NH https://stayworkplay.org/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E62: Welcome back! This week is another podcast cross pollination! We speak with Laura Harper Lake of Artful Harper Studios and Creative Gut’s Podcast. After having the opportunity to be on Laura podcast I really wanted to grab some of their spirit and chatter to bring back here. Laura does MANY physical and digital art forms and music as well. She is as creative as they come. By day Laura works with businesses to help them design their websites and branding for a NH non-profit and by night she works to create in all other capacities under her own name and business. Today we talk on doing multiple creatives and interests and what that means. We speak on the meaning behind having creative guts and needing to do what you are meant to do in those means. Lot’s of goodies in this episode for any creative looking to do what they love around the clock and maybe being too much like Laura in I doing 1 million things at once because you love to. In This Episode We Cover Jack of all trades, master of none? Primary creative Digital v Physical In the moment v planned Still putting yourself out there Different creatives and common pieces Best at the craft or best in general? Side quests Refresh Distraction or pursuing new paths? Know your bandwidth Quotes “ It’s scary being a creative and putting yourself out there.” - Laura Harper Lake “The more we connect, the more peace there will be” - Laura Harper Lake “ I don’t think that I’m the best audio engineer, I don’t think I’ll ever be, and the reason is because quite frankly I don’t think thats the point. If I’m the best audio engineer in the entire planet but I can’t relate or get the emotion out of an artist, or work with them to get the right thing then does it matter?” - Host Dave Swillum Laura Harper Lake & The Creative Gut’s Podcast Links Artful Harper Studios https://www.artfulharperstudios.com/ IG @artfulharper Creative Gut’s Podcast Website https://www.creativegutspodcast.com/ IG @creativegutspodcast Laura’s Recommended Resources Loish (Artist that inspires Laura) IG @Loisvb RPM Challenge https://www.rpmchallenge.com/ Stay Work Play NH https://stayworkplay.org/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E61: Welcome back to the podcast! This week Dave connects with sonic story teller Sean Giovanni aka Giovanni aka Gio. Sean is the founder of The Record Shop in Nashville, TN and has worked with artists like John Legend, Big & Rich, Tim McGraw, Zakk Wylde, The Wallflowers, and Juicy J. If you aren’t an audio nerd like Dave no problem. The guys go deep into the intersection of business and creative and how to manage it. Sean brings great info on managing a schedule, getting clear on your why and putting steps in to place to do it. We discuss not distracting while not ruling out opportunity and some of the goods and bads behind being a creative and how to make them work for you. In This Episode We Cover Making a living writing and recording music Making decisions young The process The value of a relationship over just a network Bring value, support each other If there aren’t extra positions, it doesn’t mean there isn’t opportunity Creatives Can do a lot, but SHOULD they do it all? Don’t diversify just because you can How bad do you want to be successful? Quotes “ The really great opportunities started to come when I was able to clearly articulate what it was that I intended for my career, what I was going after, and what my skill sets were. Initially when I was starting to apply for internships or jobs one of the big reasons why I didn’t get a lot of responses back was because I sent the same email to that studio manager that dozens did everyday.” - Sean Giovanni “ We’re not supposed to be the person that’s just willing to do everything even though YOU SHOULD be willing to do everything, you don’t want to lead with that.” - Sean Giovanni “Don’t follow the money and do things that are a revenue stream that you see opportunity for money in. Anyone in that headspace of an entrepreneur or creative has that ability to create new ways thats what we are good at but if you do it and follow it you may find yourself in a spot where it’s really hard to do the right things because your heart isn’t in it. If you go all in on what you love in a smart way there is a way to make money there and you will stay your authentic self in the space.” - Host Dave Swillum Sean Giovanni & The Record Shop Links & Resources Sean’s Links www.therecordshopnashville.com IG @therecordshop FB @therecordshopstudios Business Creative Help From Sean www.mindmaptribe.com Seans Recommended Resources For Everyone By Jason Reynolds https://amzn.to/3f5ohQi The War of Art https://amzn.to/3dOK66u Think and Grow Rich By Napoleon Hill https://amzn.to/2AecujC Fearless Motivation Spotify Playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EF56fuiUgN2GOMVZIiXpq Speakers Sean Loves! Eric Thomas https://etinspires.com/home Les Brown https://lesbrown.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E60: Going after your dreams can be lonely, hard on your relationships, and expedites large changes in life. Today we are joined by Emily Aborn host of the She Built This Podcast and founder of the She Built This community working with women entrepreneurs around NH to share their stories. We go through navigating a relationship when both partners are business owners, changing when the business you started isn’t what you thought or wanted, and building a network of people you can vent to and learn from if you don’t feel like you have a circle of who you need to discuss in depth. In This Episode We Cover Creating an event, facebook group, and podcast Women entrepreneurs Loneliness of entrepreneurship Networking to find your place Using your content strengths Not limiting ourselves by plans set Always room to change what you do Owning a business isn’t a dream if you don’t enjoy it Feedback as couples in businesses Combined firepower as a couple Entrepreneurs parents and family Use your gut Quotes “ I felt like I was really doing this whole entrepreneur thing completely alone. I would get up everyday, go to the store, come home, get up everyday, go to the store go home. That’s not what I thought being an entrepreneur was like, I thought you were in this thing all of you together and supporting one another.” - Emily Aborn “ We were both in the same business but it was like we were speaking different languages because we were experiencing such different aspects of the business.” - Emily Aborn “This desire has been in me since I was a little kid, it’s just this constant tapping on my shoulder that I cannot make go away.” - Emily Aborn Emily Aborn & The She Built This Podcast Links Website www.shebuiltthis.org The Gram! @shebuiltthisnh Emily’s Recommended Resources The Big Leap https://amzn.to/2zDgr1h Atomic Habits https://amzn.to/3ciLi0h Living Forward https://amzn.to/3ciLi0h Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E59: Every community has worked to find it’s own way to keep connected, keeping creating, and keep supporting each other through these times. The music industry certainly isn’t any different. I had the opportunity to live stream with my band on social an on a few online music festivals and really saw the power of the continued connection with you local scene, continuing to find a way to do what we love, and engage with fans when they need us just as much as we need them. Today I spoke with with Curtis Arnett Concord, NH local musician that has always had a positive impact on our local music scene, well known playing with so many groups so often. Curtis started the Granite State Online Music festival so we chat on the impact that has had, what it looks like heading into the future and how musicians and music scene can connect with these events. In This Episode We Cover Playing to your strengths Organization to a project or event Forming new norm spaces for the same industries and creatives Starting an online music festival and streaming your shows Timing to make new ways when things The good in technology Technology in fields that were behind Tools for DIY artists in the new age Community Charity and giving Quotes “We’ve had zoom, we’ve had skype, we’ve had the ability to do all these things for years, now all of the sudden when we have to use these things we are catapulted into this thing, I don’t think its coming back the same way.” - Host Dave Swillum “ I believe live music will be one of the last things to return to pre-pandemic” - Curtis Arnett “I’ve seen people I would never imagine doing a Skype call or doing something that wouldn’t normally, people have adapted already a few weeks into this thing, technology that was foreign to a lot of people has been normalized in a lot of ways. That’s really exciting when you consider local music is very DIY right now. It’s another technology that helps that.” - Curtis Arnett “There’s no true replacement for being at a live event. That said, there’s a lot of cool stuff you can do with live streaming and digital media to create an entertaining fulfilling experience.” - Curtis Arnett Curtis & Granite State Online Music Festival Links Granite State Online Music Festival https://www.facebook.com/gsomf20/ Curtis’s Bands & Affiliations Bosey Joe https://www.facebook.com/boseyjoe/ Trunk Of Funk https://www.facebook.com/trunkoffunk/ Zooo Crew https://www.facebook.com/TheZoooCrew/ Senie Hunt https://www.facebook.com/seniehuntmusic/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E58: What’s it like to live in rock n roll 24/7? There isn’t anyone else out there that knows more rock and metal artists on a first name basis and entered the behind the scenes of their life than Lou Brutus. Lou just came out with his first book about his life experiences over the past 24 years as a radio personality on his nationally syndicated radio show Harddrive with Lou Brutus. We talk on what it’s like to run into all these artists and be a radio personality. Lou talks about what just being nice can do and how it has played a major role in his career getting the best interviews. The stories are hilarious and the rock n roll life is very near and dear to my heart. Check out our conversation. In This Episode We Cover Rock n roll life What happens behind the scenes? Life as a radio personality Authenticity Being Nice Never know who you are talking to Be the pointer What’s your role? Quotes “I just get up every day, scarf down a bunch of black coffee, blast some loud music and try to get a lot of shit done.” - Lou Brutus “ I think right now is the best time for authentic speak.” - Host Dave Swillum “ If you walk in and treat everyone well it will pay back in dividends that you don’t even realize.” - Lou Brutus Lou’s Links Website www.loubrutus.com Lou’s Book! https://amzn.to/3dWCBde Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E57: You're Fired! What To Do When Or If It Happens W/ Dave & Ryan Many people are hurting out there, losing their jobs, losing their pay, and even losing everything. I wanted to share my story of getting fired to give some hope, tips, and stories that might help some people feel better when or if it happens to know what to expect. We usually don’t plan to get fired, and if your anything like me it’s never happened before and I was honestly surprised I was ever in a situation where it could happen but it did. I’m happy and proud that it happened so much so that I framed the termination letter and have it on the wall behind my mixing desk to remind me everyday. Here’s the story and what I learned from the experience. Remember: Nothing is permanent or guaranteed Everyone can and will lose sometimes No one is owed anything Everything happens for a reason. In This Episode We Cover Unrealistic expectations Unexpected pay decreases Surviving toxic work places What it’s like to get fired Mindset Plans change Reacting Relief vs the situation Stages of anxiety and expectations Routine Unemployable Quotes “I started waking up at the same time and putting on a full suit so I felt like what I was doing was important and I had structure to it. I had to sit there and do shit, because I had to.” - Host Dave Swillum “That low of things I had never experienced before has made it so now I absolutely love and appreciate everything in my life.” - Host Dave Swillum “I’m unemployable in some ways.” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E56: There are cycles in everything in life including when we have our mind opened and closed. Today we talk on some recent encounters and moments in our lives when our universe got BIGGER. When we put ourselves into learning environments and situations that expand what we know or understand is possible we encourage more growth periods. Today Ryan speaks on a recent webinar that expanded his universe in professional VO and Dave talks on some times when mentors blew his mind for audio to challenge him to get better. As creatives we all need non-bias external voices to not only encourage but force growth in our lives. In This Episode We Cover That feeling Those moments with larger fish Challenging yourself or new growth The world always gets bigger Taking critique in stride Depth from professionals Getting professional opinion Process of refinement Always get hungry The feeling comes in cycles Quotes “ I guess it’s not something I haven’t experience before but it was that process of something you’ve seen brought even deeper.” - Co-host Ryan Carrigan “ It was sobering, eye opening, and informative all at the same time, a slap in the face, it was real as fuck.” - Co-Host Ryan Carrigan “ We went back and forth and I sent the same thing back around 30 to 40 more times. I thought I was done and some went 30 to 40 times more of saying you aren’t done…..” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E55: How do you start a recording studio from no space into THE space? Sometimes we don’t always have an exact plan but surrounding yourself with people that drive and inspire you and going after what you love will always put you in a position to make great things happen. Today we wanted to get local again and speak to one of the founders of Revelry Studios in Manchester, NH Matt Blanchette about it’s formation and the industry. We talk about the actual construction and experiences of making a studio space, building a team, building a hub and community, and just how life can move into unexpected spots to form what you love. In This Episode We Cover Learning as you go You can’t plan everything Drive Surrounded by the right team Vibe over all Open door community Creating a HUB for musicians Creating YOUR space Quotes “ We just dream big, then we just figure it out.” - Matt Blanchette “ Everyone’s been grinding their asses off for years until it looks like it came out of nowhere. People that have been there watching know it didn’t come out of nowhere.” - Host Dave Swillum “ They flew from LA…to Manchester…..to be in a music video……” - Matt Blanchette “ I’d rather record an amazing drummer on my cell phone than a crappy drummer on all the gear in the world” - Matt Blanchette Matt’s Links & Resources Revelry Website www.revelrystudios.com Instagram @mattblanchette89 @revelrystudios Noted Mixing education puremix.net Frequency Training www.trainyourears.com Joe Sambo Single “Focus” (Mixed by Matt, Video by Tyler) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTKbXcbIDDQ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E54: Another quick one for you to juice up your day. This isn’t an episode for someone who needs to make income quickly, it’s for those that may have some extra time or have the ability to plant some seeds for long term success with your creative business. What can you do right now for free? Today? I really believe in the power of giving and that the more you give the more you receive in life. Lately I have been really energized by finally finishing the Go Giver book and have seen some great success from personal and friend stories of giving away your best things in life and in return receiving the best things in life. Let’s talk In This Episode We Cover Seed planting time Changes in conversation & approach Everyone is in the same boat, human mood What are you offering? What do they have? Economy facts and what can be done Prepping for the boom to follow Go Giver What can you offer for free that doesn’t feel like work? Build, build, build Entertainment v. Education which one? Quotes “I really believe right now is a seed planting time” - Host Dave Swillum “People are more available right now, they are more down to earth and into what they care about and are focused on.” - Host Dave Swillum “Get equity from you as a person right now.” - Host Dave Swillum Dave’s Noted Resource Links The Go Giver By Bob Burg https://amzn.to/3esnpWe OBS Streaming/Screen Recording Software Open Source = Free https://obsproject.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E53: Today we are joined by Rapper, DJ, Podcast builder, Ryan Sullivan AKA Sullybop to talk about the different brand pieces that make up who you are in full. Every creative entrepreneur I’ve met usually has one thing they have doubled down on but they also usually have a lot of killer things that make them up collectively or multiple projects or brands that all have their vibe. The guys chat fast paced today talking on changing between the focuses we have to follow happiness. Mixed conversation moving between many topics in brand, audio, music, and creating. Looking into why you make your choices and going all in on the choices you make. In This Episode We Cover Double down on digital People are in different places now What can you control? Follow happiness not the money People don’t want unpredictability Different Pieces of you What do your brands mean? It doesn’t make sense until it does Quotes “I’m just focused on the things I can control. I can control how much time I spend on Linked In and how many leads I can generate from that. People are home, they get their work done in the first 5 hours of the day then they’re just hanging on Linked In. What I can control is putting myself out there.” - Sullybop “It’s easier to figure out the money than the happiness, you can go get a high paying job and find the money, you can read a million books and never find happiness. I follow the happiness.” - Sullybop “I turned down the job that kids go to school for and do internships for, I quite.” - Sullybop “ I’ve got an indie rock band I’m not on there talking about economics, and how to survive in business, and cash flow or creating a living or something. I might talk about a big party or something easy going, maybe something serious.” - Host Dave Swillum “I couldn’t even afford to do work for free but I did it anyway.” - Sullybop Sullybop’s Recommended Resources The War Of Art Steven Pressfield https://amzn.to/2wCtwWV Sullybop’s Links Music & All Social @sullybop Podcast & Podcast Social @bopcastpod Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com 17!!!!!!

E52: We’ve spent the last couple episodes talking serious action and changes in the economy and business so we wanted to take an opportunity and get back to some more relaxed content with a familiar face. Dave and Simon from the “Music On Your Own Terms” podcast talk how they got into music and their takes on influence, change, starting out, new ways to look at music, and ultimately the way behind whey they formed their lives around music. For those that don’t know Simon or his podcast yet we spoke with him on E19 on the podcast about how music has helped him get through mental health challenges and start his podcast in the space. Everyone has a WHY behind the WHAT they do. Shut the news off for a few and think about why you got into what you love and why you need it in the first place. In This Episode We Cover How did get into your passion? Why got you into what your doing? Why do you do what you do? Getting back to the basics The why behind what you do Getting started What can’t you imagine life without? Roles in a band Different thoughts of different roles Tour life Different cities with different feels Influences of modern music on embedded Quotes “ They didn’t even have the cool shit, they had a drum pad and a glockenspiel. We all know that nothing is sexier than a glockenspiel but I played that and I was feeling it. I think my attention span and my aggressiveness was drawn to that.” - Host Dave Swillum “ Your not gonna be playing that in school, your gonna be better off learning what you want rather than what’s dictated by the program.” - Simon Pellett “ That really pushed the extrovert out of me because everyone looks at you in that role, so I really had to get out of my shell.” - Host Dave Swillum Simon’s Recommended Resources How To Make It In The New Music Industry By Ari Herstand https://amzn.to/2RdVK1v Start With Why By Simon Sinek https://amzn.to/2V8898l One Minute Manager By William Morrow https://amzn.to/2V4Xqv9 Waiting For The Punch: Words To Live By WTF Podcast https://amzn.to/39Kcunl Simon & Music On Your Own Terms Podcast Links Website www.musiconyourownterms.com Facebook Page facebook.com/musiconyourownterms IG @metaldoggie Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E51: Following up on last weeks episode Dave goes solo on a shorter episode to expand on bringing your brick and mortar or less digital business to online offerings. Following on the COVID-19 impact on small business and creative living we all need to be offering a way for people and consumers to interact and engage with our brands digitally so we can move forward through this and into the way people will inevitably change from the prolonged period of living this way. It doesn’t matter if you do yoga, record bands, serve food, run shows, everyone needs to have a digital offering right now to save income, create new income, and provide what society wants after these times. Let’s talk about getting digital when we need to most. In This Episode We Cover Bringing income back How to serve online What NEEDS to be in person v. what CAN be done online Digital offerings seeing more give tele-med, beer/food delivery, digital delivered learning. How can your consumer consume your creative or business now? Demographic changes afterwards Long tail effect on the world Convenience Entertainment What will carry forward? Mentioned Biz: The Nook Yoga Studio KY https://myyoganook.com/ Personal Trainer Jake Lospennato E10 Interview Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E50: The world is unlike anything we’ve experience during the current pandemic dealing with Covid-19 which means we are facing economic and career changes we’ve never encountered before as creatives as well. Tune in to hear the guys talk about some stories and strategy to navigating, pivoting, and adapting during a time when the world is functioning differently and paying for different things. There are ways creatives are pivoting and continuing to succeed in new forms of business and unfortunately entire industries under attack. Now is a time for change to make sure there is a future in your creative because people are consuming and buying differently. Let’s chat about getting through it and moving through a new market with our creative lives. In This Episode We Cover Changing daily health and living habits Transitioning into a different work life Stimulating creative v. stumping Hierarchy of needs before you can create What can I do? Control v. What we can’t control New opportunities, new market Exposing new norms Working ON your business when you can Productivity Quotes “ It’s really hard to make things happen when you don’t have all the things that you need.” - Host Dave Swillum “ You can’t reject something just because it’s not the way you’ve been doing it. If what your doing is baring better results or giving more benefits then it doesn’t matter. I don’t hold value in anything you’ve done in your life just because you’ve done it that way a million times, its what is the best way?” - Host Dave Swillum “You need to act as business as usual as much as you can while understanding what’s not business as usual to find a way.” - Co Host Ryan Carrigan Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com Dave’s Indie Rock Band Broadwing www.broadwingband.bandcamp.com

E49: Everyone can be shy sometimes or have anxieties about social environments. Shyness or being an introvert is perfectly fine but we need to find ways to make sure the characteristics benefit us instead of prohibit us from growth. I see a lot of creatives with mental health problems and honestly sometimes that helps us create our best art but can often give us trouble too. Some of the most creative times in my life that I’ve written my best songs, produced the best content, or been the most real have been when I’ve been in pain or facing anxieties but it’s always something to work on and control for the better not allowing it to control us. Today we speak to Ted X speaker, host of the Humans 2.0 Podcast, and newly created author of “Screw Being Shy” Mark Metry who I met at a conference a few months back in Lowell seeing him speak on this. We talk through seeing your own type and creating a path to use the way you are and work on things you need help with. In This Episode We Cover Your not the only one that feels like you do Talking about it Using shyness or your personality for strength Facing fear How most experience it Awareness Different forms of anxiety Science based approach People uses vice’s to drown out the voice Band Aid Solutions American diet feeding anxiety Chemical behavior Modern work life over evolution of human behavior Quotes “ It’s totally fine to be an introvert and to be quite, but if your shy and you can’t really be yourself in front of other people that’s going to put up boundaries in your life.” - Mark Metry “ When your mind get’s stretched like that you can’t ever go back so the only other way is to drown out the voice.” - Mark Metry “Your mind either exists in the present or the past.” - Co-Host Ryan Carrigan Mark’s Links Website www.markmetry.com Linked In https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-metry/ Mark’s Podcast Humans 2.0 https://www.markmetry.com/humans-2-0-podcast Mark’s Recommended Resources Marks Book “Screw Being Shy” https://amzn.to/2QkbFL3 Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E48 Why should a band use business characteristics? Check out this conversation between host Dave Swillum and James Cross from the Better Band Bureau Podcast. Starting off in local radio James got into audio and working with music. He went on to work on Van’s Warped Tour for three tours working in merchandise and sponsorship and now runs a recording studio in VT. Between Dave’s experience playing and touring with rock and hardcore bands in New England and James experience in the industry in multiple roles we really lay out a conversation about why and how to integrate business into your band or art. In This Episode We Cover Why treat a band like a business? Results How much to spend/why? Marketing your band What bands does this work for? Hobby vs. non-action What’s your role in the band? Sectioning your time Brand Branding past the page Quotes “Band’s who take the business side of things seriously are much more likely to succeed even if they are inferior musically to other bands.” - James Cross “When you understand business, it’s just easier to make the right decisions.” - James Cross Jame’s & Better Band Bureau Podcast Links Website https://thebetterbandbureau.com/podcast/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/thebetterbandbureau/ Jame’s Recommended Resources Jame’s DIY Tour Guide https://pinnacleprosound.com/the-ultimate-diy-tour-budgeting-guide-for-bands/ The Go Giver By Bob Burg https://amzn.to/2VY7vMn I Prevail Tayler Swift Cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czb_CZfWko8 All You Need To Know About The Music Business Donald Passman https://amzn.to/33051P6 Indie Music Survival Guide https://amzn.to/2TUTr3Y Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E47: Solo episode today, super digestible and quick. Today we talk about something I see in myself and others everyday. As creators whether you make music, art, run a business, or create content there is always a battle between releasing content consistently verses slowly but “perfect”. If your a perfectionist, great….but perfection is the enemy of creating. Art isn’t perfect, and to make great art you need to make it A LOT. Create and release consistently and make it as perfect as you can in the timeframe you set. We can’t get feedback or be what we want if we aren’t doing and showing what we do. Let’s dive into some of the rational and irrational ways we look at how often we release our ideas. In This Episode We Cover Lots of creative or perfect creative? What is perfect? Quality vs. Quantity….or both….or neither Timeline for sending it People can engage more when you give more Art isn’t perfect, humans aren’t perfect Keeping emotion and candid in creative Imposter syndrome Get it out quicker, you will always get better Your output is better when you act and do frequently Learn by doing Quotes “ If we aren’t releasing things we can’t have engaged fans, and if we are making something too perfect sometimes it’s not what we should be making” - Host Dave Swillum “There were some excuses that I had….but not enough to compensate for four years of not releasing stuff.” - Host Dave Swillum “The market will tell you if it’s bad, you don’t have to be the judge of it” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromworkI Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channe lhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E46 Hey guys check out the episode to hear how today had a few curve balls but we are here no matter what. Solo shorter episode with Dave today to talk about why you should start a podcast (or some other consistent content) for your hobby, creative career, or business. Recently we have been contacted by three or four people asking insight on launching a podcast in the past month so I wanted to dive in a bit and talk out some of the things I've encouraged them on and some things I wish I had someone pushing me along to do a few years back. Join me for a quick commute, dog walk, etc. to talk about why you should come home from work your working whatever your doing to start something that connects you with the people and places you want to be now. In This Episode We Cover - Reasons to start - Other forms of content best for you - Common hesitations - Who should podcast? - What type of content can you create? - When to start - Is the market saturated? - Equipment v. content - Start Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E45 All press is good press… It’s what we’ve heard but let’s dive in a bit. Today the guys talk to Nicole from Rough Edge Media about PR for bands and businesses. Not sure what PR is? Know what it is but don’t know where to start? This episode was built for you. We discuss how to implement PR on your own time, what things you can hire someone to go deeper on and how to use PR as a tool to change the perception of your creative life. We all should know who we are or how we perceive ourselves but knowing how the public views you and your endeavors is also very important. What can you do to work on it? Let’s see. In This Episode We Cover Who is your audience? What can you do in your own ? Genre based PR for music Press release or press kit to send out Don’t copy and paste Be authentic Connect first What’s spam and what’s hustle to reach out? Camping food Patience Rejection Business v casual Actions that change perception Perception is reality Quotes “Your trying to do guerrilla marketing and your trying to save money until you make it big and if you make it big. Let’s be real here there’s so many people out there, there’s so much competition but if you keep trying, do your research, and except the rejection and get past it you can be successful” Nicole Rough Edge Media “Research reflect, research more” Nicole Rough Edge Media “There’s a lot of tips I’m sure you know because you’ve been doing this but what I got from that essentially on how to get on these playlists? How do we get on these blog? Ultimately your saying so the f#@$ work” Host Dave Swillum Nicole's Links Instagram @rough_edge_media Personal @nicole_gentilee Facebook/Linked In/Youtube Rough Edge Media Nicoles Recommended Resources Rocket Reach https://rocketreach.co/ Big Picture Media http://bigpicturemediaonline.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E44 Join us today talking how to create and run an event for your brand or passion with Erin Neuhardt from E Studio Events. I met Erin while working live sound and we clicked during our first meet up so I wanted to share some of the things that have made her really successful in the entrepreneur and speaking engagement event space. I really believe that no matter how small you may be or think you are there is space for you to host some type of event even if it’s a reoccurring get together with like minded people. People are craving human interaction and want to be apart of a community so let’s give them a place to. Here’s to hoping the podcast can host an event some day and talk about the details of how it’s done right with Erin. In This Episode We Cover Everyone can do an event Realistic expectations Solo artists can host great events Purpose Make the connection last after Be authentic Shiny object syndrome Experience vs the things What are you known for? Quotes “We are in a space in time where we are all behind computers so often that being in community in one another is HUGE and I think that live events allow us to get out from behind the computer and get together.” - Erin “Decide on those top two or three things that are super important to you that you don’t want to compromise on. Being clear on what it is that you want to put out there and how you want to show up to your audience.” “You can’t sustain success unless it’s built on genuine intent on how to serve something or someone.” - Host Dave Swillum “People pay to experience something, if they don’t walk out of your event and feel something different inside them then they aren’t going to keep coming back to your event” - Host Dave Swillum Erin’s Links Website www.estudio.events Instagram @neuhardt.and.soul Facebook E Studio Events Erin’s Recommended Resource Masterclass https://www.masterclass.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E43 There are a lot of amazing attributes that I’ve seen in creatives meeting new people everyday but one common weakness and fear I’ve seen is being afraid to commit to sales to grow your creative business. One common feeling and thing I hear is “I don’t want to sell out” or “If it’s good art they will come and support it”. While I agree that you shouldn’t make all your decisions as a creative only oriented at popularity and I don’t think you should turn your love into a hate I do always advocate for artists to learn to be forward with creating opportunities for themselves by finding people that like what they do and showing them what you do in some way to meet that need. Maybe your going to events and meeting people, talk on facebook groups, calling people that don’t know about what you can do to help them, messaging or emailing out. Everyone introvert and extravert, artist or not has an opportunity to create opportunity by connecting with people that are in need of what they do and showing them the value in how YOU personally solve the issue. Let’s talk with Stephanie from Grow Disrupt in San Antonia, TX about transforming your small creative business into a growth machine that sustains success and income. In This Episode We Cover Starting sales Sales for creatives Grind time, How long? Working while working Problem solving Starting change Not selling out but selling your product/service Energy v time shortages Burnout from pushing Small things that mean a lo Quotes “ Do not screw with your sales reps commission checks, because if you do six years later they will be on a stage talking about you!” - Stephanie Grow Disrupt “ You may outgrow those guys, your friends. Your interests, your conversations are going to change from what theirs are.” - Stephanie Grow Disrupt “ I have band practice once a week on Wednesdays. The reason why I got into audio is because of music and I knew if I didn’t keep that in my life then I would lose all reason why I do what I do. When I practice on Wednesday I lose that time and I need the time. To take that time away it needs to be valuable but taking that time renews my energy. “ - Host Dave Swillum Stephanie’s Links Website https://www.growdisrupt.com/ Facebook Success Steph Stephanie’s Recommended Resources Mike Michalowicz www.mikemotorbike.com Profit First https://amzn.to/2GLWtB4 Clockwork https://amzn.to/2GZCr6B Pumpkin Plan https://amzn.to/2RP6kN4 The Introverts Edge By Matthew Owen https://amzn.to/2OkQ6sU Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E42 As creatives we usually HATE talking money. Unfortunately if you want to do what you love full time you often need to find a way to get an income from it and more importantly manage it in a way you can be educated on the next decisions you need to make. Today we talk about using tools to see cash flow, the meaning of money, the different stages of income when starting a business and how to balance and keep track of it. Money doesn’t have to be a bad thing but it does have to be understood in order for it to serve you, your creative, and your community. In This Episode We Cover When do you claim taxes? When should you register? How do you manage money? Understanding your creative income Informed decisions The numbers don’t lie Hobby V Business? Starting with any project and getting narrow Healthy idea of money Starting business for the right reason Quotes “ When you get busy and do projects that don’t make sense it’s like your trying to juggle and you have one shitty ball” Host Dave Swillum “ The saddest thing I’ve seen is creating a business you don’t enjoy. It’s likeYou just did all this to get yourself out of the rat race so you could create a business you don’t like which is just a race as another animal, why bother?” Host Dave Swillum “ Looking at the numbers yeah it sucks but when I do this good things come out of it.” Co-Host Ryan Carrigan Dave’s Resources Free accounting tool I use for now Wave Accounting https://www.waveapps.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E41 Alright let’s reverse a bit. The guys spoke last week about their choices and plan changes to include their day job to fund their creative careers for an added amount of time. This week we talk to someone who is only 9 days into their jump to see what’s in their head and what’s right for you. The boys chat with Simon James AKA Seamonster a graphic designer and artist from Maine. We speak to Simon about his fresh jump into business and his perspective driven from monetary and life challenges. Managing your day when all the time is controlled by you and staying disciplined, getting out of hard financial situations, and taking on your day to day creative business. In This Episode We Cover When you jump Discipline and daily schedule Losing your job Living off low income What’s worth the money? Enjoying the small things Bouncing back on a budget Starting cheap or free Creating demand and control Foot in with Non-profits Fitness helps business Putting ideas to action What’s your weakness as a operator? Physical properties that put you in different state Taking in influence from day jobs Quotes “ That day that I decided to submit all this paperwork and money on two businesses was another day just like any other” Simon James “ I personally believe everyone in America should have two 20 hour jobs instead of a full time job because everyone burns out. Having your hands in multiple pots” Simon James “ You can’t tackle every problem that you have and everything you have to address in just one day, there’s not enough time in the day to do it. So don’t worry about everything you need to do in THAT DAY, but be aware of everything that has to be done. Keeping structure when you have that much freedom is key, you can’t just not do anything or your screwed.” Host Dave Swillum “It’s your mind or your money right now that dictate when is the time and if one of those is sour it needs to be fixed” Host Dave Swillum “If you act casual then your day will be casual, and what you get done that day will be casual” Host Dave Swillum Simon’s Links Website Simon’s Interior Painting Company https://www.happyinteriors.me/ Facebook Art By Seamonster Instagram @theseamonster207 Simon’s Recommended Resources The Happiness Lab Podcast he digs https://www.happinesslab.fm/ How I Built This Podcast https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E40 Everyone has told you never to quit your day job, we’ve always told you TO quit it……today we aren’t. Ok let’s back track. We really want you to when it makes sense but we want you to set up your jump for a long term win and marathon win over a short term feeling of fulfillment that isn’t backed by strong risk mitigation. Hear how Dave and Ryan have set their year up with day jobs to use the funds and time to attack their creative careers. We dive into the thoughts and feelings behind why people jump too early or too late from their day job and how it can best serve you. EVERYONE is in a different unique situation and only you can know what is serving you and your mission and WHEN it makes sense. Let’s talk it out, feel better about they WHY behind our choices, and see how we can make our day job serve our business and creative lives. In This Episode We Cover Does your day job serve you? When to jump? Why you should keep it Why you shouldn’t Ways it can play out Using your resources What’s in your way and what are YOU doing about it? Why it’s important to time it right Preparing Actions vs. planning and the delta The plan Dave and Ryan’s new planning for 2020 Quotes “ I want to be invincible. I want to still do the jump, but I want it to be as small as possible. I don’t want to be knocked out on the first punch, I want three to six months of curve balls that I can’t expect and being able to survive through them. It’s about what can I do to eat more shit, put my head down, and get to that spot?” Host Dave Swillum “When we say plan, I’m not talking 2020 resolution, what is the plan? What are you going to being doing during the day? What’s an actual day to day look like?” Co-host Ryan Carrigan “ Doing things to set yourself up for a long term win. I’m not in this to just make nothing, not support my family, and feel bad about shit. I want to create things that are creating income without me being there only. I need to create businesses and assets that aren’t a 1:1 ratio, I want to die 100 doing what I love not 5 years of fire then burn out quick.” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E39: You ever hear "It’s not what you know, it’s who you know"? This episode is brought to you by networking! After meeting Zach from a mutual online encounter we brought it offline with some coffee and decided to link up to podcast after a great conversation and match of interests and life. Zach Zyla is a freelance audio engineer working out of Manchester, NH after going to school for audio. In this episode we talk about how important networking is and how to do it in a meaningful way so it truly makes you and others connect in life rather than just for perks and benefits. We talk about measuring your business after having no boss to tell you how your doing and building relationships. It’s a smaller world than we give it credit for and thats definitely true in music too. In This Episode We Cover Content release strategy for artists Building a community Answering the audience Bridging the creative gap Releasing music in the modern day Measuring your performance yourself NETWORKING Relationship building Quotes “ You can’t be a shark in the water, I don’t come up to people and be like we’re gonna be friends and your gonna pay me. We’re gonna connect and if something happens cool, if it doesn’t whatever.” - Zach Zyla “ I’m not shitting on 9 to 5 if you are advertently happy doing that, go do that every single day. It’s starting to be a big issue in our time because of debt to income ratio in our generation. You spent a lot of time working, if your doing something that you don’t like to do then……sometimes you spend more time doing it more than seeing my wife, friends, or family….there needs to be a real good reason for me to be doing that time away from them.” - Host Dave Swillum “I never really wanted to connect with a million people, but now I’m at this point in my life where I’ll shake anybodies hand, like lets be friends. Worst case they’re a photographer and we don’t cross paths and never meet up again but best case I need a photographer or a band needs one and we connect and collaborate. You never know, it’s definitely worth while.” - Zach Zyla “ Buy equipment as an expense, it’s part of you doing that thing instead of getting something waiting to use it.” - Zach Zyla Zach’s Links Zach’s Email: [email protected] Zach’s Website www.zachzylaaudio.com Instagram @zachzyla Facebook Zach Zyla Audio Zach’s Content Release Guide https://www.zachzylaaudio.com/content-release-strategy-guide Zach’s Recommended Resources Six Figure Home Studio Podcast (I LOVE THIS TOO!) https://www.thesixfigurehomestudio.com/ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E38 Basement Music For NFL Placement W/ Dominic Mosher Today we talk to Dominic Mosher of Mosher Audio out of Michigan to walk through getting connected through genuine interest in others, forming a life around your creative career to support it, and changing your contact with friend groups that may be helping or hurting your goals. Dominic started writing music for licensing in the NFL and other large brands from a simple conversation and works to record music for his band the Highlight Reel and other bands in the Michigan area. Join us during your busy holiday season driving through crazy traffic or walking through retail stores to stay on point with your creative career and prepare for 2020. In This Episode We Cover Genuine interest in others Connecting with the right people Small thing’s add up Setting boundaries to set up for success Spending less time with those that slow you down Passive people effect Staying focused Keeping balanced in your connection life Physical vs. mental day job, mental currency Patience as an entrepreneur Quotes “You just have to keep writing, you just have to keep writing.” - Dominic Mosher “It’s all those little tiny details that add up to that one beautiful piece of music, it means more because you know what went into it.” - Dominic Mosher “ There can be a passive effect from those you surround yourself with” - Host Dave Swillum Dominic Mosher’s Links Dominic’s Website https://www.mosheraudio.com/index.html Instagram @dominic_mosh Dominic’s Recommended Resources The 50th Law By Amistad https://amzn.to/2MoLFMJ Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E37 Desert Island Goals for 2020 & Self Awareness If you were on an island with no financial, health, or other societal constraints but was limited to just being able to do a few things during the day with a few people who is there and what are you doing? Everyone needs a sense of purpose and everyone needs people because thats part of being human. But let’s get clear on our goals. I like brewing home brew, I like hiking, I like camping, I like a lot of people in my local music scene, I like a lot of podcasters But who do you NEED and what do you NEED to do? Getting prepped for 2020 and any year I think it’s important to get very clear on the goals that matter and the actions you NEED to take to move in your life towards the creative or alternative lifestyle your after. I’ve wasted time in the past by saying yes to too many things and staying busy to feel busy. This years events have made it really simple for me to make decisions on what REALLY matters in my life. Quick thirty minute episode to talk through mindset on making big decisions simple to set the right goals for you. Dave talking to Dave 5 years ago to give advice learned over the years working towards the dream. In This Episode We Cover - The most important things to you - Needs V. Wants - What to say yes and no to - How to make big decisions simple - When should you take action? - What factors hold you back? - Addressing the urgent - Total cash flow over everything Quotes “ You can’t win a game with the best defense ever if your not scoring any points” - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E36 When you hear the word "investment," what do you think? Money? Stocks? Or is there a little more to it. This week the guys are back together before the end of the year to talk about investments. What is it that you are investing in? Do you invest momentary resources into your venture? How much time and dedication do you invest? How much do you invest in the one thing you have your whole life for certain...you? These are all pivotal questions that change across the variety of mediums that we engage with. Join the guys this week as they navigate all the new upcoming changes with them, the podcast, and what it means to take your "investments" to a new level. Enjoy! This week - Updates on the podcast - Looking back on the year -What level are you investing at? - When do you know that you're getting serious? - It's not just about investing money - Goals for the upcoming year - Cutting the fluff Quotes “ You Follow the things that your prepared to have nothing for” Co-Host Ryan Carrigan “If you can make less doing what you give a shit about than what your doing right now and that’s fine with you, your on the right path. Keep going that way.” Co-Host Ryan Carrigan "Invest in yourself, it's the only thing you have your whole life." - Host Dave Swillum Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com The voice acting class Ryan just got into! Bill Dewees Voice Talent/Coach - "The Voiceover Blueprint" https://www.youtube.com/user/VoiceOverExpert

E35 Have you been trying to figure out the music industry? After finishing my MBA in Music Business from SNHU and Berklee I wanted to share a taste of real world music business from someone that’s been living through the changes and still breathing it in LA. I met Joe Solo briefly while eating lunch at an Audio Engineer Society Convention in LA a few years back. I spent a summer helping Joe with some vocal editing and learned an incredible perspective from him on how to approach a mix. Joe has continued to adapt, create new business avenues, and move forward in music business and works to teach young artists and engineers pursuing a career regularly so in this episode we break it up. What makes a great song? What works and what doesn’t in the new music industry? In This Episode We Cover How does the music industry work Experts vs. real life What NOT to do in the music industry Everything starts with a good song Reliability: How many people can you connect with? Looking outside your own creative ego What makes a great song? How to judge your own creative? Strategy to collaborating Reputation is EVERYTHING The “Jerk hole tax” Quotes “ Without a good song your lost, you’ve got nothing.” - Joe Solo “A good indicator of a good song is watching how the body moves, and not someone you know.” - Joe Solo “Everyone thinks their baby is adorable but there are ugly babies in the world.” - Host Dave Swillum Joe Solo’s Links: Website www.joesolo.com Email [email protected] Facebook www.facebook.com/joesolo1 IG/Twitter @joesolo1 Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E34 Another episode out in the field! Join us today from Exeter Drum Works wood working shop in New Hampshire. Now I can’t say that being a drummer didn’t have anything to do with me choosing to go after this episode but it’s certainly good for anyone looking to make their own product, sell a boutique brand, or just likes to hear a hustle story. We certainly talk drums but we also talk making the leap, getting your first income from your career, and competing as a small boutique brand against other larger manufacturers and competitors. In This Episode We Cover If you don’t like what’s made, make it Getting into manufacturing goods Competing with national brands Three years and then making drums Tricks to keep committed to your dream Vision’s effect on creators Collaborate don’t compete Band Roles Music Instrument industry Trends in musician product consumption Differentiators Quotes “I don’t want to be here anymore, I don’t have an issue with the work, I don’t have an issue with people I just don’t want to be here anymore because I wanna be making drums.” - Jeff “ What else is there to do, this is what I want to do.” - Jeff “ If your a creator you create.” - Host Dave Swillum Exeter Drum Works Links: Website’s https://www.exeterdrumworks.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ExeterDrumWorks IG/Twitter @exeterdrumworks Jeff’s Recommended Resource If you want to build drums look through forums and youtube. Search koko jig to get into it. Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you) https://www.patreon.com/wakingupfromwork Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community to connect to creatives https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E33 Welcome to number 33. We carry on the conversation on Social Media for creatives but take it to the macro. After talking application and practice in E30 from my own experience and how Ryan built Robot Dog Studio with video content in E31, today we talk to someone who is on the large scale of social media. Please welcome a top 100 influencer in the fashion industry with 2 million followers on IG, entrepreneur, and model Simonetta Lein. We had a killer conversation on what things are important for a modern social media and marketing game, an authentic identity with your living, and giving back. Super good info in here and amazingly authentic individual to talk to. Let me know what is working for you or challenging you with your creative outreach @davewakeup I want to know ! In This Episode We Cover - Growing social media accounts from scratch - Using influence for good - Tools for improving social media results - Being authentic - Story telling, what’s your story? - Give your very bestHuman touch - What’s your message? Your tribe? - Taking interactions and bringing them offline - Entrepreneur life isn’t easy - Be able to say no and be able to say yes - Rest V. Giving Up Quotes “ I’m not someone who’s opposed to working, I’m just someone that’s opposed to spending my time doing something that I hate. I’m a hard worker I’m good to go for a 15 hour day 18 hour day if it happens that way, I just don’t want to put in 8 hours of something I hate. “ - Host Dave Swillum “Your vibe attracts your tribe” - Simonetta Lein “Learn how to rest, not to give up” - Simonetta Lein Simonetta’s Page Links Website’s www.ausoniapartners.com www.wishwallfoundation.org Facebook Simonetta Lein IG/Twitter @simonettalein Simonetta’s Recommended Resource Human Revolution Dezakway Kaida https://amzn.to/37ozjNw Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community https://www.facebook.com/groups/wakingupfromwork/about/ Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio advice and more in depth content from Dave www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E32 On todays episode we look to deliver some great music industry insight for indie artists and experience/ mindset thoughts for entrepreneurs. Today we speak with Scott Page Saxophone player/Rhythm Guitar for Pink Floyd, Supertramp and Toto, CEO of ThinkEXP LA based media immersive entertainment company, and technologist. Scott has such a diverse background between music and entrepreneurship that we cover a lot of ground. Looking at story telling for your brand, creating an experience over a product, and understanding why we do what we do and if it will work. In This Episode We Cover What are you trying to do? Brand story telling Modern music industry Music business for indie artists What do YOU stand for Access to data and how to use it Lean start up principles Test and validate! Fail fast Your skills vs. what you need Starter or Finisher? Execution > the idea always Quotes “Are you a starter or a finisher? Figure out who you are and fill the room with people who provide the other” - Scott Page “ You can’t get educated on everything, take the just-in-time approach to education. We don’t have time to get educated on everything so pick what you need right now and get it for the best impact”. - Host Dave Swillum “ What people don’t understand is the idea is the simple part, it’s all about the execution”. - Scott Page Scott Page Links Website ThinkEXP https://thinkexp.co/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/iamscottpagefrompinkfloyd/ IG/Twitter @iamscotpage Scott’s Recommended Resource Co-founders equity calculator http://foundrs.com/ Running Lean by Ash Maurya https://amzn.to/33yKXD9 The Power Of Now By Eckard Tolle https://amzn.to/2Cu0Wq1 The Lean Canvas One page business plan template https://leanstack.com/leancanvas Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber To work with me on your audio www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E31 Today We get right into the heart of what’s on my own personal mind. We go into how you start your business full time in a recording studio close to home with Ryan from Robot Dog Studios from outside of Burlington, VT. I connected with Ryan in the Six Figure Home Studio community I’m a part of on Facebook after I found out how close his studio was. After we connected on some content we hit it off. We deep dive into why video is important for social and artists right now and how we create and offer services to support it. We look into taking the jump, picking a location, and starting business in the local recording scene and the DIY spirt behind Ryan and his story. If you want to open a recording studio listen to this. If your getting ready to take the jump and want to know what goes into it, still listen to this. In This Episode We Cover How important video is for Social media right now The DIY spirit Lean into your strengths Choosing a space for your business Keep the overhead low Finding a commercial space that works for a studio Live recording and video for artists Letting go of control How often do you need to share your brand? Making musicians feel comfortable to create Studios dogs and cats Quotes “ I would have said this to myself earlier, just jump in and do it.” - Ryan Cohen “It’s almost like if people didn’t see a video it didn’t happen” - Ryan Cohen “ Even if you think your beating people over the head everyday with your social posting, it just gets so buried with politics and memes so you can’t tell people enough about what your doing” - Ryan Cohen Robot Dog Studios Links Website www.robotdogstudio.com Facebook robotdogstudio IG @robotdogstrudio Youtube www.youtube.com/robotdogstudio Ryan’s Recommended Resource “Shaking Through” documentary from Weather Vane Music https://weathervanemusic.org/shakingthrough/episode-index Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok @davewakeup Facebook Community www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio help hit me up here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E30 The big 3 0! I mean I'll be 28 in a month so I'm not 30 but this is the 30th WUFW Podcast episode ! Sorry I'll table the dad jokes. Today is a solo short episode on social media trends I've been seeing through my own experimentation on the side and day job role as marketing manager for a small business. Being in multiple NH chambers of commerce and working with local musicians nightly I see a lot of people doing great things with social and a lot that need to get after it quick. Today I talk about some observations I've seen in the industry, any pointers I can provide and what I am personally doing well and not well in social. In This Episode We Cover - Differences in social media - Importance of video content right now - Creating content for your business or music page - The why behind creating different content on different platforms - Making social content for bands - Different consumption methods of social - Introvert vs. extravert content creation methods - Balancing creation vs. not getting addicted to it Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook Community www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio help hit me up here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E29 I met Sara and Drustin back in my undergrad at Plymouth State University. This week they just launched their USA made, sustainably made athletic wear clothing company! You can’t go into business against your morals and beliefs or one day you won’t feel good with what you’ve built. Sara and Drustin saw a need for this product in the market and wanted it to be a new and original offering instead of a repeat product made however and where ever. We talk creating a clothing line and coming up with a physical product fo the first time. Have you ever wanted to sell a product direct to consumer without housing the product? You can! By no means is this passive because these guys worked their ass off but once you have the systems in place there is some really cool stuff that can happen. Check it out. In This Episode We Cover Creating a physical product in modern time Distribution On demand, direct to consumer How to create your own clothing Doing business with your morals Choosing who you want to work with Customizing and creating a new thing What’s a tech pack?!??! Shopify Quotes “ I’ve been in the industry 30 years……So have the walls but it doesn’t mean I need to take their business advice in a new industry.” - Drustin Sabin “ Why do you care if it’s a bunch of little old ladies sewing together your cloths…..Why do I care?!?!?!” Sara talking about looking for ethical manufacturers - Sara Manzoni “Business isn’t an instant reward, sometimes your investing in the long game. Say you learn to play guitar, it’s not like your playing a Jimi Hendrix tune right away” - Drustin Sabin “Sales is not something that’s comfortable, period” - Sara Manzoni Horizon Active Sara and Drustin’s Links Website www.horizonactive.com Facebook facebook.com/horizonactive IG @horizonactive Sara and Drustin’s Recommended Resources Sara’s Choice Sell Or Be Sold by Grant Cardone Drustin’s Choice Small Giants by Bo Burlingham Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook Community www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio help hit me up here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E28 Today the Waking Up From Work Podcast gets to talk with it’s first international guest speaking with José Miziara of Catnip Audio Visual in Brazil! Working with my production company Crawlspace Audio and playing in my older bands and current band Broadwing. I have seen the opportunity and need for video for local Indie artists looking to be serious about their music and continue to pursue their passion. We talk about why video is important for indie artists for marketing and successfully promoting shows and launching new music. Talking the differences and the similarities between running a creative service business in two very different countries and cities. In This Episode We Cover Importance of video for music Basic video marketing Differences and similarities in business for creative services in other countries How to make something from nothing It’s not about your gear, it’s about you and your talentAttention, Attention, Attention Using tools to launch your record or promote your showVoice & Video Artists are their own label until they HAVE to have a label, not beforeQuality of videoPerception Quotes “ Band’s have to handle everything, you need to book the tour, you need to design the merch, you need to distribute your music, you need to be a financial planner and do things in a way your able to sustain. These artists are little business owners with their band. There’s no labels we are all our own label now. The way people consume now is video and it’s voice.” - Host Dave Swillum “The show is the most important place for people to create fans, it’s where you have the mic in your hand and that’s it. If your video, your posting, your advertisement doesn’t translate that then you may not be able to get people to the show to even know.” - José Miziara of Catnip Audio Visual “I can’t post some pictures like I’m just going to mix the shit out of your song” - José Miziara “When your a creator, it’s not just music you just need to create” - Host Dave Swillum José Miziara Links Facebook www.faceboook.com/catnipaudiovisual Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClyxAULY3Eo_7rSh4vUDXuA IG @catnipaudiovisual Personal IG @jose.mizi José’s Recommended Resource’s The Six Figure Home Studio Podcast (I love this too for any business but especially audio engineers and producers DS) The Sandman Comic https://www.comixology.com/The-Sandman-50/digital-comic/11151?gclid=Cj0KCQjwt5zsBRD8ARIsAJfI4BhO5UHcH_pjMEStYqs0E7fveNOjxvbIrUg3o3flYXMBSPcKGPu2WJgaAne2EALw_wcB Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook Community www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber For audio help hit me up here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

This week, the guys have a one on one episode discussing an important topic; pivotting. When life, hobby, & careers don't seem to be panning out how do you recognize it? How do you move in a new direction? What does a new direction provide? The guys sit down and dig deep while they catch up on the day to day of life. Each of us experiences changes on all scales and it is important to re-evaluate periodically to make sure we are on track to success and health. What has happened in your life that has made you reassess your situation? In this episode: -That "smack you in the face feeling -"This isn't working" -Pay attention -More stuff on mind/body connection -The process of setting good goals -The importance of taking inventory - Is the grass greener? - The why, then the how, then the what Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Record with Dave Swillum here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E26 Today we talk through failure as an entrepreneur and getting back at it over and over again. Nick Devlin is currently a life coach pursuing a role leading entrepreneurs in adventures to challenge their comfort zone in extreme outings. Nick is a 4 combat season Army Ranger 75th regiment vet, MBA graduate of Cornell, father, and husband. Sometimes it’s hard to know exactly what you want to do in life to live intentionally but you know it’s not what your doing currently. Nick talks through testing out what he thought he should lean into and what he didn’t like in order to finally land on what he feels he was meant to do. It’s ok if you don’t know what you want to do but you have to try different things and go for it to know what works and what doesn’t. In This Episode We Cover Moving frequently Failure and getting back up Taste testing your strengths How does the Army play into your business Finding your way Stop going through the motions Having a child and a marriage to keep in mind Being intentional Challenging questions Facing issues entrepreneurs have in their relationship No job’s are “safe” nothing is guaranteed Saying it until it manifests itself Quotes “My biggest challenge is control, I say that’s my addiction is control and I was white knuckling life to death.” - Nick Devlin “It’s incredible what can happen when you ask a question, and it’s a real question and its from the heart. You can change the world.” - Nick Devlin Your in it, from the outside or what your doing on a daily life isn’t normal. None of it’s normal. But shit get’s normal when you do it everyday and when people don’t check you it’s a problem.” - Host Dave Swillum Nick Devlin’s Links [email protected] IG, Twitter, Youtube @nickdevlincoach Nick’s Recommended Book You Are A Badass by Jen Sincero Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Record with Dave Swillum here www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E25 Coming from last week’s episode talking talking some strengths coming from an interview with a corporate leader in a large company we wanted to take this week to talk the cons of corporate and how you can make it work for you if it’s what YOU want. This week we got to hang out with Jennifer Rock and Michael Voss who worked the corporate life for 25 years and left to start their jobs to start a communications consulting company for themselves. Their journey started when they had some trying times at their company and started writing their first book together B.S.Incorporated and later wrote the sequel Operation Clusterpuck which are both business fictional novels based off of real life situations behind closed boardroom doors and private jets. We talk ways to work against complacency at work, communication in your job or at your business with others, changes in technology creating changes in public communication, and pros and cons of having your own business or working for a large or small business. In This Episode What really happens in the corporate world Difference between older and newer mentality of career priorities Communication Technological changes in our communication style in and our of business Fictional business novel? Did you know those existed? Rad! Differences between working small and large business or your own business. Don’t let a company make choices for you, choose your path Don’t let life happen to you If you like working at a corporate desk job, great keep doing that! Don’t sleepwalk You have to be ready to go Would changing in your current job make you happy? You still need to ‘work’ even when you have your dream job What is your funyun threshold? How do you measure success? Self awareness Authenticity There’s no replacement for face to face Quotes Every position he’s ever had in his career has just happened to him, he’s never been looking for them. - Jennifer Rock “No company says ‘Here’s exactly the work/life balance that you deserve and I’m going to give you” Because if you ask a company to choose for you the company’s going to choose itself because thats what they are designed to do. You need to take control of your life and decide what works for you. - Jennifer Rock If you decide you want to work 90 hours a week for a 45 billion dollar company, thats awesome! - Jennifer Rock I understand the person that all of the sudden blows up and does exactly what they wanted to do and the person that worked something they hate for 90 years and looks back with regret, Life is fast paced and I understand how these things happen on both sides. - Host Dave Swillum You have to be ready to go, I would never encourage someone to jump prematurely. Paychecks do stop coming, you need to be ready for that risk. - Michael Voss' Jennifer and Michael's Links www.rockandvossbooks.com www.rockdotvoss.com Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Dave’s audio business www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E24 Today Dave goes solo bringing some notes and discussion back from an unrecorded interview he did with a Sen. Sales Director of a fortune 500 SAAS company in Massachusetts. Dave completed this interview in 18' during his MBA program and wanted to unpack some of the experience and take aways he got that day with a large corporate figure in a digestible and applicable way for anyone looking to go after goals with strategy and communicate to an audience effectively. Shorter episode with some challenge statements geared toward any leader, entrepreneur, or person going after their goals. Thank you guys for listening and engaging! In this episode we cover - Niching down, going all in on your strengths - Reducing friction for your end user, audience, or goal - How can you survive a good and bad economy? - People's changing habits from economical impact - Communication, Communication, Communication - People, Process, Technology - Transparency and Trust - Leading instead of managing Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Dave’s audio business www.crawlspaceaudio.com

As the world becomes an increasingly technological place the way we live our lives change with it. Whether it be how your job changes or becoming fluent in new skills whilst progressing a career, forward progress is always necessary. With this progress comes a fundamental block in the construction of a successful life; Education. In this episode, the guy's do their first solo episode where they tackle an important question that hits close to home for everyone. Do you need to go to college? Join the guys as they dissect this increasingly complicated and layered question as they discuss pre-college behavior, the climate of colleges in the present day, self-teaching, and the massive investment a modern education can be. Thank you for joining us on the first solo episode! In this episode we cover -What is important about college? - ROI of your degree, thinking about the real cost -The state of technology and it's impact on education -The importance of continued growth of skills -Do you even need a degree for your interest? -Can you afford education and how do you go about it? Quotes “ Now so many industries that exist that never existed for all of these parents, friends, and mentors to give context for “I want to sell sneakers on instagram'' “I want to be a youtuber and getting licensing income to make makeup tutorials” That was never possible before. I feel like a lot of advice and things we look for to make those decisions at that age are not aligned with the current abilities of internet coming to scale.” - Host Dave Swillum “ Looking at my current situation and what I’m pursuing now, did I really need to go to go to college? I would say yes. You can fall into the near sighted trap of not thinking of your degree as worth anything because your not using it in your related field at the moment. It’s about a self growth mindset and a process of putting yourself through something that is so rigorous and so intense that it forces you to change as a person and forces you to grow. It cultivates fundamentally important life skills that I feel people lose sight of. - Co-Host Ryan Carrigan “The science shows in the psych field that money can buy you happiness in so far as it keeps the debt collectors away. Meaning happiness is correlated with you make enough money for lack of discomfort. You are only so happy with money to the point when your not being pestered by lack of it then it plateaus. Once you reach a certain point you can have one billion dollars and it doesn’t make you any happier.” - Co-Host Ryan Carrigan “Take what you can out of literally everything. We will say it as it is, you do not need to go to college. Also you do not need to go to school for something that will make you look socially acceptable. Also you need to think too, if your spending umteen thousand dollars and your going to school for a $200,000 english degree…...I’m not knocking english, I’m just saying sorry dude...your return on investment. You need to look at holistically. I wish I was more involved with my student loan process when I was younger.” Co-Host Ryan Carrigan “Whatever it is that your going to do, do it well.” Co-Host Ryan Carrigan Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Dave’s audio business www.crawlspaceaudio.com

E22 Life happens and often happens in a big way. Our best-laid plans can be blown away in an instant by the force of one of the most powerful forces in life; circumstance. In this episode, Dave and Ryan sit down with none other than Megan Swillum! Meg and Dave have had some serious life changes in the works and you'll find out that when the instance changes, numerous things change with it. Meg, Dave, and Ryan dig into what it takes to be flexible, adapt, and roll with the curveballs life throws at us while progressing our goals as individuals and as a couple. In this episode: -What the hell has everyone been up to? -Dealing with rejection -Finally being accepted -Communication... Very important -Same page? Same book, even? -What it takes to go to med/vet school -Taking care of relationships -Balancing individual need and relationship needs Meg's Recommendations Podcast A Vet https://podcastavet.com/ Rich Dad, Poor Dad https://amzn.to/2X3eS70 Waking Up From Work Podcast Links Website www.wakingupfromwork.com Instagram/Twitter @davewakeup Facebook www.facebook.com/wakingupfromwork Email [email protected] Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJeddF25VuWn8Eg3Fhy13fQ?view_as=subscriber Dave’s audio business www.crawlspaceaudio.com