Voxology

How can the church move forward with honesty, vulnerability, and healing when leadership fails or fractures arise within the community? Bonnie and Tim open this deeply honest episode with licensed therapist Elise Snipes, entering into what they call both a conversation and a process—a safe space for grief, anger, grace, and renewal. This marks a journey into how we, as the church, respond when our spiritual communities are shaken. Listeners are guided through a powerful, therapeutic framework designed to help navigate the emotional impact of last week's news surrounding co-host Mike Erre. Elise leads a communal process of separating reactions into three containers—Mike's story, your personal story, and the collective church story—offering clarity, compassion, and direction. If you're carrying feelings of betrayal, anxiety, anger, guilt, or confusion, this episode creates space for you to be exactly where you are while equipping you with language and tools to move toward healing. Key Takeaways: • The Three Streams of Processing Pain – How to untangle what's yours, what belongs to someone else, and what belongs to the larger community to gain clarity and respond with wisdom. • Shame vs. Conviction in the Church – Understanding the difference between healthy self-awareness and destructive shame that isolates and paralyzes us within Christian culture. • The Church's Martyr Complex and Pastor Pedestal Problem – How systemic pressures, sin management cultures, and purity culture create toxic expectations and unsafe environments. • The Need for Spiritual and Emotional Safety – Why the church needs to become a place where pastors and congregants alike can be human, honest, and held in their process. • Pathways Forward – The importance of rebuilding trust, naming triggers, and forming communities centered around healing, shared responsibility, and hope. Guest Highlight: Elise Snipes – A licensed marriage and family therapist, creator of the Radical Wellness Collaborative, and host of the Trailercast podcast. Elise brings decades of experience rooted in holistic wellness, and offers Vox listeners a framework for understanding emotional responses, navigating systemic dysfunction, and reclaiming healing in community. Resources Mentioned: • elisesnipes.com – Learn more about Elise's therapy and coaching work • radicalwellness.co – A collective of therapists, spiritual directors, and coaches available for online support • The Trailercast Podcast – Hosted by Elise, offering wisdom on emotional health and healing • Reach out to Vox at [email protected] to contribute local therapist referrals or join micro-communities You are not alone in this process. Whether you're grieving, confused, angry, numb, or hopeful, this conversation is for all of us journeying toward restoration and truth. Let's keep rebuilding together. Subscribe, leave a rating, and join the conversation on Instagram or Facebook. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue deeper wholeness together. Find us and continue the journey: • YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV • Merch Store: Etsy • Website: voxologypodcast.com • Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify • Support us on Patreon • Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast | Facebook: VoxologyPodcast • Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre • Music by Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy on social) We love you, Vox community. Keep leaning in—together. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we become a community where truth, brokenness, and grace can coexist? In this deeply vulnerable episode, Mike Erre steps forward to share hard, personal truths about the convergence of his private struggles and public ministry. Joined by co-hosts Tim Stafford and Bonnie Lewis, the Voxology team models what it means to confront sin, pain, and shame not with silence but with courageous transparency, loving accountability, and a commitment to holistic healing. Together, they explore the importance of rooting a spiritual community in truth, grace, and vulnerability rather than image management and performance. This candid conversation serves not only as an update for Voxology listeners but as an invitation for all Christians to consider how we respond to failure, how we practice redemptive grace, and how we create spaces safe enough to walk through real pain in pursuit of real transformation. Key Takeaways: • Truth Over Image – Why honest confession and transparency are essential in deconstructing performance-based church culture. • The Long Road to Healing – Mike's commitment to therapy, spiritual community, and integrating his public and private life through Jesus's grace. • Creating Safe Faith Spaces – Exploring how church communities can reckon with failure and extend grace without glossing over pain or accountability. • The Role of the Vox Community – How the team, including Vox's board and co-hosts Tim and Bonnie, is leaning into modeling generative restoration instead of punitive responses. • Looking Ahead – How Voxology will continue with thoughtful guests and spiritual conversations while Mike takes time away from the mic to pursue deeper healing and clarity. Resources Mentioned: • Email for community questions: [email protected] • Future Podcast Guests: Skye Jethani, John Mark Comer, Tim Gombis • Upcoming Episode with Therapist Elise Snipes • Patreon and Interpreters Podcast projects: voxologypodcast.com Join Voxology as we press toward honesty, love, and redemptive space even when it's messy. Subscribe to stay on the journey, leave a review to help others find us, and follow on social to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage thoughtful dialogue. Email questions to [email protected] or connect with us on: Watch on Voxology TV – YouTube Get Merch on Etsy Visit VoxologyPodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support on Patreon Follow Mike: Twitter Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook for updates and community engagement. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Christians break free from shame-driven views of body image and embrace their inherent worth in Christ? In this deeply personal and vulnerable episode from the Mini Episode Series (#8), Mike Erre, Bonnie Lewis, and Tim Stafford gather in person to respond to a powerful listener letter about body image, dieting, disordered eating, infertility, and the church's silence on these issues. Bonnie steps forward to share her own story of healing and freedom, striking a raw and redemptive tone that resonates with so many in the church today—especially Christian women navigating toxic body narratives reinforced by culture, churches, and families. Discover how micro-communities can become safe spaces for truth-telling, how spouses can walk in honesty and support, and why therapy, spiritual grace, and self-compassion are essential tools in the healing journey. With humor, honesty, and depth, the trio explores how distorted messages about "biblical womanhood" fuel body shame, and how the church can offer a different story formed by love, grace, and real healing. Key Takeaways: • Recognizing the Spiritual and Emotional Roots of Body Shame – How cultural and church-based messaging can deeply influence self-worth and the way we relate to our bodies. • Therapy and Community as Healing Tools – Why a trained therapist and trusted relationships are critical for navigating healing and dismantling harmful thought patterns. • Redefining Spiritual Health – Moving away from appearance-centered validation to a Jesus-centered identity rooted in grace, presence, and wholeness. • What the Church Gets Wrong (and Can Get Right) – A critique of spiritually abusive settings that use control and shame to maintain power, contrasted with a Christ-centered call for liberation and embodied grace. • Honest Marriages and Safe Spaces – Encouraging spouses and micro-churches to foster radical honesty, support, and non-judgmental environments for processing trauma and recovery. Resources Mentioned: • Micro Community Interest Email: [email protected] – Reach out if you're interested in joining or starting a local Voxology micro-community for shared meals and conversation around faith, doubt, and Jesus. • YouTube Channel: VOXOLOGY TV – Watch full episodes and in-person conversations with Mike, Bonnie, and Tim. • Support the podcast on Patreon • Subscribe and follow: iTunes | Spotify Join the conversation by following us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and Facebook. Please subscribe, write a review, and share with someone who needs to hear that they are enough, just as they are. Healing is possible, and you're not alone on this path. Send us your questions or stories to [email protected]. We'd love to journey with you. Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Check out our merch store on Etsy Learn more at https://voxologypodcast.com As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we navigate the tension between honoring God's calling for women and deconstructing the cultural baggage often attached to "biblical womanhood"? This Q&A mini episode tackles that question head-on, as Mike, Tim, and Bonnie gather around the mic to unpack the true scriptural and theological meaning behind what it means to be a Christian woman. Using wisdom literature and gospel narratives, the crew explores whether the church's traditional gender roles hold up under biblical scrutiny — especially when it comes to misunderstood passages like Proverbs 31 and Mary and Martha. Bonnie speaks candidly about growing up under narrow gender expectations and offers powerful insights into reclaiming these texts in a Christ-centered way. Key Takeaways: • Reframing Proverbs 31 – How the chapter is better understood as a poetic metaphor for wisdom, not a prescriptive checklist for womanhood. • The Mary and Martha Moment – Why Mary's action of sitting at Jesus' feet was a radical, subversive act and what it tells us about Jesus' view of women in leadership. • Deconstructing "Biblical Womanhood" – Why phrases like "biblical manhood" and "biblical womanhood" often reflect cultural norms more than scriptural truth. • The Importance of Context – How ignoring original context in passages like "women should remain silent" can lead to harmful theology. • Following Jesus, Not Gender Stereotypes – Why being a Jesus follower transcends gendered expectations and calls all believers into wisdom and love-driven service. Resources Mentioned: • Matthew 10 and Luke 10 – The Mary & Martha narrative revisited • Proverbs 31 – Rethinking its purpose and context • Email for Micro Communities – [email protected] • Join the Voxology Micro Communities: [email protected] (include your name, city, and country) • Watch this episode on our YouTube channel: Voxology TV Join the conversation on biblical gender roles, deconstruction, and rediscovering your identity in Christ. Subscribe, leave a review, and share the Voxology Podcast with your friends to keep the conversation going. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Kicking off a special December series of mini Q&A episodes, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie dive into thoughtful listener feedback addressing critiques of their political commentary, the limits of deconstruction, and the broader mission of Voxology. Recorded in-person at Gold Pacific Studios, this episode also announces the launch of Voxology TV on YouTube, feeding both audio and video content into the growing community conversation. This episode peels back layers of evangelical culture and reflects on how orthodoxy has been obscured by modern political alliances, doctrinal gatekeeping, and a conflation of American cultural values with the teachings of Jesus. With humility and sincerity, the team responds to pointed critiques—clarifying their stance on orthodoxy, political idolatry, and the difference between faith and cultural packaging. Key takeaways: • Why criticizing evangelical political alliances isn't the same as attacking conservative theology. • Distinguishing historic orthodoxy from the evangelical industrial complex of the last 70 years. • Why theological deconstruction is necessary—but not a rejection of core Christian beliefs. • The importance of exposing abuse and corruption in church institutions as a form of holy reckoning. • How Voxology aims to equip listeners not just to deconstruct—but to reconstruct in Christ-centered, community-minded ways. Guest Highlights: • Bonnie Lewis – Brings essential nuance to the conversation around orthodoxy, deconstruction, and gendered critiques of what's considered "liberal." • Studio shoutouts – Recorded at the legendary Gold Pacific Studios with video by Setter Studios, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the people making this new media expansion possible. Resources Mentioned: • Voxology YouTube Channel (Voxology TV) – YouTube.com/@voxology • Email listener suggestions to host guests: [email protected] • Reference to past interviews with Tim Gombis and conversations around Paul and politics Support the ongoing dialogue by subscribing to the new YouTube channel, sharing the episodes, and joining the community online. Whether you're in a season of deconstruction or just asking sharper questions about your faith, Voxology offers a safe, Jesus-centered space to wrestle and rebuild. We'd love to hear from you—send your questions, critiques, and suggestions to [email protected]. We're on YouTube: Voxology TV – Watch Now Shop our Merch: Voxology on Etsy Learn more at: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify: • iTunes • Spotify Support Voxology on Patreon: Become a Patron Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: Facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Does a shift in language signal a shift in theology? In this intimate and challenging episode of our new YouTube Q&A Series, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and guest Bonnie Lewis respond to a listener's thoughtful concern about Mike's theological trajectory and the rise of "progressive" terms like privilege, oppression, and intersectionality on the podcast. What unfolds is a rich, nuanced, and vulnerable conversation about language, biblical faithfulness, and how diverse voices shape how we express the gospel. Mike clarifies that while his core beliefs haven't changed, his expression of faith has evolved to be more compassionate and inclusive—a shift he argues is distinctly biblical, not political. Bonnie offers a powerful reflection on being a woman in theology and pushes back on long-standing assumptions about women's roles in the church. Together, the team explores how using cultural language within a gospel framework can help reach those on the margins without compromising the mission of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • The difference between theological liberalism and cultural engagement—and why embracing inclusive language doesn't mean abandoning orthodoxy. • How Mike's evolving understanding of being pro-life now includes the marginalized, immigrants, and the oppressed—not just the unborn. • Bonnie's candid response to the gendered dynamics of theological critique and a powerful plea for women's voices to be heard as equals in the church. • Why language like "privilege" can open gospel conversations, not shut them down, when used with intentionality and grace. • How the Voxology team is committed to walking faithfully in the tension between truth and compassion by reflecting the widening love of Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • Voxology YouTube Channel – Subscribe here • Gold Pacific Studios – Studio Info • Writers Referenced: Stanley Hauerwas Call to Action: Help us launch our new YouTube presence by subscribing, liking, and sharing the video version of this episode from our new channel, VOXOLOGY TV. Share your thoughts and help us reflect more of Jesus's beauty through respectful and honest dialogue. Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite podcast platform, leave a review, and follow us on social media so you never miss a moment of this journey. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (and yes... now with music): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETsy Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How centering communion over preaching can reshape Christian community and church life. In this launch of a brand-new YouTube mini-series collaboration, Mike Erre, Bonnie Lewis, and Tim Stafford dive into listener-submitted questions about the heart of Vox's alternative church structure—focusing on Eucharist, inclusion, and grassroots community rather than institutional models. Broadcasting from Gold Pacific Studios in Newport Beach, this visual/audio crossover marks a new chapter for Voxology. Key Takeaways: • The Table Over the Stage Model – Why the Vox team chose to center their church around the Eucharist instead of the sermon, and what kind of community that creates. • Open Communion and the Way of Jesus – Unpacking why offering the Lord's Table to everyone, believer or not, reflects the radical inclusivity of Jesus' ministry. • Communion as a Model for Justice and Presence – How table fellowship can transform community into a space of healing, participation, and kingdom embodiment. • Church Without a Stage – The challenges and possibilities of a decentralized, kingdom-rooted faith community that resists institutionalization. • Where Mission Meets Micro-Community – How a "missional imagination" rooted in presence, not platform, can remake the way we do church. Guest Highlights: • Josh (Listener) – Asks the foundational question that sparked this deep dive: Why design church around communion, and why keep the table open? • Nathan (Listener) – A missionary and seminary grad wrestling with the future of church leadership and alternative ecclesiology. Resources Mentioned: • Vox Podcast YouTube Channel – Subscribe Here • Vox Patreon – Support Us on Patreon • Vox Website – voxologypodcast.com • Preston Sprinkle – Past episode collab on open communion • 1 Corinthians 11 – Discussed in the context of open vs closed communion Be sure to catch this whole mini-series by subscribing to our brand new YouTube channel. Join the conversation that moves beyond sermons and into real-life, lived community centered on the radical hospitality of Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay updated. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the Voxology vision of micro communities is providing spiritually curious and deconstructed Christians a new path forward. Hosts Bonnie Lewis, Tim Stafford, and Mike Erre respond to listener emails and dive into what it takes to start a local micro community—spaces for meaningful conversation, vulnerability, spiritual practice, and radical inclusion without the pressure or performance of a traditional church model. Tim shares his real-world experience launching a micro community in Auburn, California, offering both inspiration and practical wisdom for anyone asking, "Is church still necessary?" Key Takeaways: • Creating Micro Communities for the Spiritually Homeless – Explore what it means to build safe, open, and inclusive spaces for faith beyond traditional church gatherings. • Community Over Institution – Why centering conversations around Jesus, mutual care, and open dialogue is often more life-giving than Sunday services. • Simple but Intentional Gatherings – Hear how Tim started with friends, built trust, and allowed the community to grow organically—no pastors or pulpits required. • Theological Openness – Micro communities are not church "replacements" but are intentional spaces to explore hard issues, listen to one another, and focus on marginalized voices. • Practical Examples – How to facilitate topics, include young families, rotate meeting times, and develop guiding values for your group. Guest Highlights: Tim Stafford – Voxology co-host and impromptu micro community leader who shares the origin and growth of his Auburn-based group—including how he structured it, the kind of people who show up, and the welcoming ethos they live by. Resources Mentioned: • World Relief – https://worldrelief.org/ • Topic Ideas – Voxology Podcast back catalog • Mike's quote: "If we can agree on Jesus, we can break bread." • Well vs. Boundary-Centered Communities – A model of inclusion and growth • Skyline Chili (but only in passing…) Join the growing Voxology movement by starting your own micro community or exploring how to step into deeper spiritual conversations outside the institutional church. Subscribe to the podcast, share your thoughts, and follow us on social media to keep the dialogue going. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Can a complementarian and an egalitarian co-lead a church without compromising their convictions or church polity? That's the central question driving this special mini-episode of Voxology. Mike, Tim, and Bonnie revisit a recent conversation sparked by their dialogue with Allan Frow, unpacking listener questions about unity in leadership, theological diversity, and the positive biblical basis for women in ministry. With real-life scenarios, pastoral insight, and honest evaluation of both complementarian and egalitarian frameworks, this episode offers valuable guidance for anyone discerning their place in church leadership—or working to build a faith community rooted in inclusion and conviction. Key Takeaways: • Unity in Diversity? – The complexities of co-leading a church when leaders hold opposing beliefs on women in ministry roles, and the challenges it raises for church governance and decision-making. • Honoring Women's Gifting – Why flexibility matters, and how lack of clarity in theology and modeling can perpetuate confusion and exclusion, especially for women seeking freedom in their calling. • The Positive Case for Women in Ministry – A biblical framework starting from Genesis 1-2, with examples from the Old Testament, Jesus's ministry, and Paul's writings, including key figures like Phoebe, Junia, and Priscilla. • Reading the Fruit – Encouragement from Bonnie to consider the impact and outcomes of different theological interpretations in practice, not just in theory. • The Role of Theological Disagreement – Why some dialogues may work better in open forums than in the shared leadership of a church body. Resources Mentioned: • Upcoming "Heated" Event Recording – A two-hour teaching and Q&A session with Mike and Bonnie on women in leadership (coming soon!). • Romans 16 – Paul's commendation of women ministry leaders. • 1 Corinthians 11, Ephesians 5 – Scriptural passages addressing women in the context of early church participation. • Episode 18 – "Is the Bible Anti-Women?" with Bonnie Lewis • Episode 46 – "Women in Leadership" with Bonnie Lewis Have you wrestled with this question in your own church context? We'd love to hear from you. Send your thoughts and feedback to [email protected] and join the conversation online. Stay connected — subscribe to Voxology on your favorite podcast platform, leave us a review to help us grow the community, and follow us on social media! We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more: VoxologyPodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support us on Patreon Discover more on our Voxology Spotify Channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: Voxology Podcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – timothyjohnstafford.com | IG & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Why didn't Jesus spell it all out? Why are we left wondering, searching, and often disagreeing when it comes to theology, salvation, and what it means to follow him? In this mini episode of Voxology, Mike, Bonnie, and Tim respond to an incredible listener question from Newport Beach: if God wanted to save everyone, why wouldn't he just make things super clear? In a raw and heartfelt conversation, the team explores the beauty and challenge of ambiguity in the Christian faith. They unpack how God's invitations to join his work are rooted in relationship, trust, and participation—not in following rigid instructions. This episode delves into why mystery, community, and the presence of the Holy Spirit might actually be features, not bugs, of the divine design. Key Takeaways: • Divine Ambiguity as Invitation – How God's choice not to give us exhaustive clarity invites deeper participation and relationship. • Living by the Spirit, Not Just the Scriptures – The team reflects on the importance of the Holy Spirit guiding us, even when the Bible doesn't give explicit answers. • Cooperative Participation – Exploring the theme of God using his people to embody and express his story throughout history. • Working Through Questions in Community – Why faith grows through tension, shared journey, and real-life wrestling with big questions. • The Role of the Church and Individual Discernment – Unpacking how the early church operated without complete theological consensus, yet with a common Spirit-led pursuit. Resources Mentioned: • Dallas Willard – Knowing Christ Today: Why We Can Trust Spiritual Knowledge • Email us your thoughts and questions: [email protected] • Micro Community Formation Info – voxologypodcast.com Whether you're spiritually homeless, a Christian misfit, or just someone with deep questions, this episode will encourage you to embrace the journey of seeking over certainty. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to keep the conversation going. We're on YouTube! Catch us at: VOXOLOGY TV Grab some gear from our Merch Store on ETSY Support the show on Patreon Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Join the conversation on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How wrestling with Scripture, the Holy Spirit, and personal experience led Mike Erre and Bonnie Lewis to change their theological stance on women in church leadership. In this special live episode, part of the Heated Live Event Series, Mike and Bonnie vulnerably share their stories—including painful moments of rejection, spiritual awakening, and biblical reexamination. They address common objections to women in leadership, unpack 1 Timothy 2 and other controversial passages, and challenge patriarchal norms hijacking the church's witness in the world. This is the first in a new series of live conversations that confront "heated" theological topics with honesty, humility, and scripture-centered discussion. Get your Bible, your questions, and join the conversation. Key Takeaways: • Women in Ministry Comes with a Cost — Bonnie shares how her calling came with personal losses, including being shunned by close friends and excluded from church opportunities. • Rethinking 1 Timothy 2 — Mike and Bonnie walk through the passage in depth, showing how the commonly cited prohibition against women teaching may have been tied to a local heresy in Ephesus, not a universal ban. • Paul's Subversive Use of Cultural Norms — Exploring how Paul adopted patriarchal cultural structures to promote Gospel transformation, subverting them from within rather than outright dismantling. • The Link Between Patriarchy and the Fall — Is patriarchy a biblical ideal or a result of sin? Mike and Bonnie argue that many hierarchical gender roles reflect fallen human structures, not the vision of Genesis 1 or the direction of the Gospel. • Real-Life Implications — The disempowering of women in church settings doesn't just affect ecclesiology—it spills into society at large, diminishing women's voices, stories, and gifts. • On Authority and Teaching — They explore Junia's role as an apostle, Phoebe's leadership in delivering and likely interpreting Romans, and how even Paul's call to "be silent" was likely contextual and temporary. Guest Highlights: Mike Erre – Lead voice on the Voxology Podcast, formerly complementarian, shares the long journey (and study) that led him to affirm women in ministry. Bonnie Lewis – Pastor, speaker, and writer, brings vulnerable and bold narrative to the theological shift around women leading, teaching, and interpreting scripture. Resources Mentioned: • Video recording of the Heated Live Event – Instagram Bio and Facebook • Romans 16 – Referenced in discussion of Junia as an apostle • 1 Timothy 2 – Central passage explored • Ephesians 5 — Discussion on "headship" and mutual submission • "Romans Disarmed" by C. Keesmaat and B. Walsh – Book Link Join the broader conversation about restoring dignity, equality, and shared leadership in the church. We want to hear from you—let us know your journey, questions, or how the Spirit is stirring you. Subscribe on your favorite app, leave us a review, and follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook for upcoming events, series, and real-time dialogue. Email your thoughts or questions to [email protected]. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Support the podcast on Patreon Listen on iTunes or Spotify Music by Timothy John Stafford • Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Let's keep pressing into truth… together. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the ruthless elimination of hurry isn't just about slowing down—it's about rediscovering the way of Jesus in every aspect of your life, from spiritual formation to parenting. In this episode of the Exile Series, Mike Erre is joined by pastor, author, and longtime friend John Mark Comer to explore the profound connection between the pace of our lives and our capacity to love well. They dive deep into John Mark's journey from megachurch burnout to spiritual renewal and offer practical wisdom on how to embody love, joy, and peace through intentional living. Along the way, they talk about the limitations of hustle culture, the impact of spiritual formation on community and parenting, and the challenge of truly becoming "like Christ" amid cultural and religious noise. Key Takeaways: • The Cost of Hurry – How John Mark's burnout in ministry revealed the soul-killing nature of hustle culture and led him to rebuild his life around rhythms of rest, reflection, and formation. • Spiritual Formation as the Path to Change – Why transformation isn't about willpower or waiting for a spiritual "zap" moment, but about consistent engagement with Jesus through practices, community, and the intentional shaping of the soul. • Parenting Without Shame – How a relational theory of change can inform parenting, helping children process their emotions and choices with trust instead of fear, control, or punishment. • The Gospel as Apprenticeship to Jesus – Deconstructing Reformation-era definitions of grace and works to rediscover the biblical vision of discipleship grounded in abiding in Christ rather than merely believing about Him. • Enneagram and Soul Work – A critical conversation on the misuse of the Enneagram as a personality label versus its intended use as a tool for spiritual transformation. • The Church's Role in True Formation – The limits of preaching alone to shape souls, and the need for the church to guide people not just in what Jesus taught, but how to embody it in daily life. Guest Highlight: John Mark Comer – Pastor, author of multiple books including The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry, and host of the podcast This Cultural Moment. Known for his work on spiritual formation in a secular age, John Mark opens up about his personal journey from church growth idolization to a life grounded in presence, soul-care, and love. Resources Mentioned: • The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer – Amazon • This Cultural Moment podcast – thisculturalmoment.com • Fight Hustle, End Hurry podcast (with Jefferson Bethke) – fighthehurry.com • Dallas Willard – Renovation of the Heart • EMDR Therapy – EMDRIA.org • Tim Mackie – The Bible Project's work on biblical wisdom • Steven Porter & John Coe – Theology of spiritual formation at Biola University • Pete Scazzero – Emotionally Healthy Spirituality • Enneagram Institute's Levels of Development – enneagraminstitute.com Want to explore transformation beyond hustle and hurry? Dive deeper with us as we rethink what it truly means to follow Jesus today. Subscribe to the podcast, leave us a review, and join the conversation on social media. As always, we invite your thoughts and questions at [email protected], or engage with us on Facebook and Instagram. Join the journey on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Shop our merch: VOXOLOGY on Etsy Visit: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe via iTunes or Spotify Support us at Patreon Voxology Radio on Spotify: Voxology Radio Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: Voxology Podcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford — Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does the modern church get the theology of judgment wrong—and what does the Bible actually say about it? Mike, Tim, and Bonnie unpack the fear-driven narratives many Christians inherit, contrasting them with a richer, more relational and kingdom-centered understanding of judgment, eternal life, and salvation. Using John 3 and Jesus's dialogue with Nicodemus as a launchpad, the team explores how concepts like heaven, hell, and accountability have been weaponized in much of Christian teaching—often to the detriment of genuine spiritual formation. Drawing contrasts between judicial and relational frameworks of judgment, this episode wrestles with the crucial questions: What are we judged for? Who is judged most harshly—and why? And most importantly, how do we become the kind of people fit for the coming kingdom today? Key Takeaways: • Judgment Is Now and Not Yet – Heaven and hell are both future realities and present choices. How we align with the kingdom today matters. • Sin as Self-Inflicted Judgment – Much of the Bible teaches that sin contains its own consequences, forming us into people either fit for new creation or resisting it. • Love, Not Fear – God's judgment is not about checking doctrinal boxes but about participating in a relationship that transforms us to love Him and others. • Leaders Are Accountable – Religious leaders face unique and intense judgment for misrepresenting or weaponizing the gospel, especially through fear or exclusion. • Eternal Life Begins Now – Borrowing from Jesus's teaching in John 3, salvation isn't a ticket to heaven but the daily experience of new creation breaking into our lives. Guest Highlights: No outside guest this week, but Bonnie leads a powerfully insightful conversation with Mike and Tim, bringing clarity, depth, and challenge to traditional views on salvation and discipline. Resources Mentioned: • N.T. Wright – "Surprised by Hope" • Greg Boyd – "Cross Vision" • Preston Sprinkle – "Four Views on Hell" • Joshua Ryan Butler – "The Skeletons in God's Closet" • Michael Wittmer – "Heaven is a Place on Earth" • Alan Hirsch – Commentary on heresy as "making a small thing the main thing" Call to Action: If you've ever wrestled with questions about salvation, hell, or what judgment really means, this episode is a must-listen. Help others join the conversation—subscribe, leave a review, and share the episode. And email your thoughts or questions to [email protected]—we'd love to hear from you. Catch us visually on VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube, grab some merch at our Etsy store, and visit voxologypodcast.com for more ways to connect. Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and support us on Patreon. Follow the journey on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and on Facebook. Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can complementarian theology be both faithful to Scripture and deeply honoring toward women? Mike Erre sits down with Pastor Alan Frow from Southlands Church in Brea, California, for a respectful and thought-provoking conversation about women in ministry, complementarian leadership, and the infamous John MacArthur-Beth Moore controversy. Alan, a self-avowed complementarian, pushes back against harmful caricatures and offers a more nuanced model—one anchored in mutuality, Scripture, and genuine partnership between men and women. Together, Mike and Alan reflect on what it means to hold strong convictions without straying into rigidity, and how churches can recover a theology of gender that mirrors both the Trinity and the self-giving love of Jesus. They also tackle the nature of authority, the role of women in leadership, and what the modern church can learn from biblical models like Priscilla, Deborah, and Phoebe. This episode features rich theological back-and-forth as the hosts and their guest model respectful dialogue amidst theological disagreement—reminding us all that the way we hold our beliefs matters as much as the beliefs themselves. Key Takeaways: • Beyond Caricatures – Alan shares why he rejects John MacArthur's tone and example, arguing for a more generous and respectful form of complementarianism that affirms the dignity and giftedness of women. • Team-Based Leadership – Exploring how Alan and his wife lead together in their church context, avoiding hierarchical stereotypes and embodying mutuality within complementarian convictions. • Office vs. Gifting – Breaking down the distinction between the roles of elder and teacher, and how non-elder men and women can teach under elder oversight. • Scripture, Creation, and Gender – A deep dive into Genesis, Ephesians 5, and the New Testament household codes to examine how theology emerges from biblical design and redeemed relationships. • Countering Misuse of Authority – Why both complementarian and egalitarian settings are susceptible to abuse, and how the church can cultivate healthier cultures through shared leadership and spiritual parenting. Guest Highlight: Alan Frow – Lead pastor at Southlands Church in Brea, California and author of Broken for Blessing: The Underrated Potential of the Medium-Sized Multiplying Church. Alan brings decades of pastoral experience, deep biblical insight, and an open-hearted humility to this conversation on theology, family, and church leadership. Resources Mentioned: • Southlands Church • Alan's Blog • Broken for Blessing by Alan Frow – [Amazon Link] • Scriptures Referenced: Genesis 1–3, Ephesians 5, 1 Timothy 2, 1 Peter 3, Romans 12, Galatians 3 • Previous Voxology Episode on John MacArthur & Beth Moore Let's keep the conversation going. Whether you're complementarian, egalitarian, or still sorting it out—your voice matters. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to join our growing community of listeners striving to follow the way of Jesus over ideology. As always, we welcome your thoughts and questions at [email protected] and invite interaction on Instagram and Facebook. We're also on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Visit the Merch Store: ETSY More about the show: VoxologyPodcast.com Listen & Subscribe: iTunes | Spotify Support us on Patreon Explore curated playlists on Voxology Radio (Spotify) Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like our Facebook Page: Voxology Podcast Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by: Timothy John Stafford Instagram + Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A heartfelt message for those who no longer feel at home in the American evangelical church, Mike Erre delivers an unfiltered and compassionate reading of his letter titled "An Open Letter to the Spiritually Homeless," originally written for Q Commons in Costa Mesa. Speaking directly to spiritual exiles—those disillusioned yet still drawn to Jesus—Mike offers solidarity, honesty, and hope in the midst of uncertainty and reconstruction. This episode is a sacred pause for anyone wrestling with deconstruction but unwilling to abandon their faith entirely. It's an invitation to embrace life in the in-between, to encounter a God not confined by temples or traditions, and to recognize your wandering as sacred space full of purpose. Key Takeaways: • Spiritual Homelessness Defined – More than church-switching or faith doubts, this homelessness is the ache of those disillusioned by what American evangelicalism has become but still captivated by the beauty of Jesus. • Naming the Grief and the Longing – Mike voices the sorrow, anger, and isolation felt by many who still long for community, depth, and integrity in their faith practices. • Prophetic Critique of Evangelical Systems – A direct call-out of failures in leadership, exclusionary practices, political allegiances, and the silencing of questions within the church. • A Homeless God for a Homeless People – Exploring Jacob's encounter with God in an ordinary place (Genesis 28), this reflection reframes our wandering as a place of divine encounter and transformation. • Hope in Deconstruction – Jesus himself confronted and deconstructed broken religious systems. Mike reminds us that God is often at work dismantling what no longer serves, preparing us for something new. Resources Mentioned: • Genesis 28 – The story of Jacob's unexpected encounter with God at Bethel. • Q Commons – Q Ideas This is an invitation to the spiritually displaced to know that they are not alone—and to reimagine faith on the road with a God who refuses to stay confined. Share this episode with someone who's been hurt by the church or is wrestling with their place in it. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave us a review, and follow us on social to stay connected to this growing community of Jesus followers navigating the messiness together. — As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast https://voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes: https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Or on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support the Podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voxology Listen to the Voxology Spotify Channel: https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can the church faithfully navigate cultural change without compromising the gospel? Mike Erre, Bonnie Lewis, and Tim Stafford tackle the fallout from John MacArthur's public rebuke of Beth Moore, dissecting its implications for women in ministry, biblical interpretation, and the misuse of spiritual authority. Using sobering personal stories and sharp theological insights, the trio wrestle with the deeper issues behind why conversations about gender, race, and power provoke such intense responses within evangelical culture. From Paul's teachings on women to the role of cultural interpretation in faithful exegesis, this episode challenges long-held assumptions about who's allowed to lead in the name of Jesus—and how that leadership should reflect Christ. Key Takeaways: • Beyond "Go Home" – Why the real issue behind the MacArthur-Beth Moore controversy isn't just complementarianism, but how power is protected and wielded in the church. • When Culture Drives Gospel Reflection – Understanding Paul's missionary accommodations, and why sometimes culture helps the church see Scripture more clearly. • Rethinking Gender & Power in Scripture – Exploring alternative readings of Pauline texts often used to prohibit women from teaching and leading. • The Damage of Dismissiveness – Bonnie shares a personal story of spiritual abuse, highlighting how mocking and silencing women in ministry has long-term effects on leadership and faith. • Micro-Communities Movement – Updates on growing listener-led Voxology gatherings, and opportunities for deeper engagement across the country. Resources Mentioned: • Email your micro-community location: [email protected] • Past and upcoming events: Q Commons, Heated event audio & video on YouTube • Galatians 3 & 1 Timothy 2 – Scriptural references unpacked in the discussion • Support Voxology: Patreon | Tithely Giving • Vox Merch Store: ETSY • VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube Help us amplify the voices Jesus invites to the table—subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected and engage the conversation. As always, reach out to us with questions or reflections at [email protected]. Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook. Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford. Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy. Learn more at voxologypodcast.com. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the biblical concept of identity, rooted in Paul's letters to the Ephesians and Colossians, can radically transform our daily lives and free us from the shame and lies of our inherited identity. In this exclusive Voxology solo episode, Tim Stafford introduces a powerful past sermon from Mike Erre that explores what it means to be "in Christ" and how our God-given identity is foundational to becoming who we were created to be. Despite being recorded several years ago, Mike's reflection is more relevant than ever, challenging us to move from performance-based faith into a grace-driven reality of fullness. Key Takeaways: • Inherited Identity vs. In-Christ Identity – Unpacking the difference between the scripts the world writes for us and the indestructible identity we receive through Jesus. • Becoming Who You Already Are – How Paul's order of indicative (what Christ has done) before imperative (what we should do) is essential to a healthy understanding of growth and obedience. • Identity in Ephesians and Colossians – Exploring profound truths from Paul's letters about what it means to be sealed, adopted, raised, and filled in Christ. • The Role of Grace in Formation – Challenging the belief that grace simply cleans up our past, instead showing how grace leads and sustains our transformation. • Living From Fullness, Not Emptiness – How the false pursuit of "more" can be put to rest when we fully embrace the completeness we already have in Christ. Resources Mentioned: • Book of Ephesians – Ephesians 1–4 • Book of Colossians – Colossians 1–3 • "The Secret" – Referenced as an example of modern-day gnostic thinking • Good Friday Activity Cards – Reflection prompts for listing false identities and embracing Christ's truth • Past Episodes with Tim Gombis – Exploring Kingdom dynamics vs. sin and death patterns Let this episode be a pause to realign your understanding of grace, formation, and true identity. Join us in preparing for Good Friday by reflecting on the lies you carry and the truth Christ declares over you. Subscribe to stay connected and be a part of the ongoing conversation about justice, grace, and the church's mission. Leave a review if this message resonated with you, and don't forget to follow Voxology on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Creating a safe and welcoming space for those who feel spiritually disoriented, disillusioned, or homeless has always been at the heart of Voxology. On this special four-year anniversary episode, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and producer Bonnie reflect on the journey so far: what's worked, what's shifted, and what's ahead for the Vox community. They share how the podcast was born from a desire to ask bold questions about faith, the church, culture, and Jesus without fear or shame. Now, with over 2 million listens, the team is more committed than ever to being a landing place for anyone feeling out of place in modern church expressions or wrestling with their beliefs. This episode outlines a bold vision for the future—through resourcing interpreters, forming micro communities, and developing new content streams specifically for those seeking to reconstruct their faith in light of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Creating a Home for the Spiritually Homeless – Why so many believers feel dislocated from traditional church spaces and how Voxology offers community through spiritual disruption. • Deconstructing, Then Reconstructing – The necessity of deconstruction within a revealed faith and how to rebuild with Jesus at the center. • Vision for Future Growth – Voxology announces new initiatives: a podcast stream for interpreters, regional micro communities like the one forming in Columbus, Ohio, and expanded resources for people leading their own groups. • Investing in Interpreters – Defining the "interpreter" as someone bridging the foundational truths of Christian faith with the questions and culture of today. • From Content to Community – How the show is evolving from content delivery to nurturing meaningful spiritual relationships offline. Guest Highlights: No special guests this week—but plenty of beloved "family banter" from Mike, Tim, and Bonnie as they celebrate the podcast's journey. Resources Mentioned: • Join or Start a Micro Community – Email [email protected] • Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon – https://www.patreon.com/voxology • Make One-Time or Recurring Donations via Tithe.ly – https://voxologypodcast.com • Vox Podcast Facebook Page – Livestreams and Community: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast • Resource Page (Books, Tools, Teaching) – https://voxologypodcast.com Want to help this movement grow? Join the conversation, share this episode, support Voxology financially, or even start something yourself! Subscribe, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and follow us on Instagram and Facebook to stay connected. — As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email questions to [email protected] or engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon or Tithely The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How sermon-centric church models are limiting spiritual formation—and what we should consider doing instead. In this episode, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie Lewis serve up laughter, listener mail, and meaningful critique as they unpack everything from naming conventions to how churches center around teaching rather than transformation. Plus, Mike sits down with Skye Jethani (Holy Post podcast, With God Daily, author of "With") to tackle his recent article challenging the long-held assumption that preaching should be the church's primary method of disciple formation. From mental health feedback to listener encouragements, free events, and a rich discussion about ecclesiology in the digital age, this conversation will challenge you to seriously reconsider what church is for and what participation actually looks like for Jesus followers today. Key Takeaways: • The Problem with Sermon-Centric Models – Why dedicating 50–80% of church resources on a single weekly teaching moment may no longer serve the mission of forming disciples. • Preaching vs. Teaching – Skye and Mike unpack the biblical and functional differences between proclamation (preaching) and instruction (teaching), and why conflating the two can be harmful. • Faith Formation in a Digital World – Given the immense access to podcasts, videos, and devotionals, is Sunday still the most effective day for learning? • What Gathering Could Look Like – Exploring more holistic and participative alternatives for congregational life: meals, small groups, application-centered learning, and communal responses. • Listener Feedback – Important discussions around mental health language, being vulnerable in Christian communities, and how the words we use shape our engagement with one another. Guest Highlights: Skye Jethani – Author, speaker, podcaster, and former pastor, Sky shares his critique of the sermon-centric church model and explores healthier and more sustainable ways the church can disciple people in today's cultural and technological landscape. His Daily Devotional at WithGodDaily.com has become a vital spiritual practice for many. Resources Mentioned: • Heated Conversation: Why We Changed Our Mind (Women in Ministry Event) – [Eventbrite Link] • Q Commons Costa Mesa (Free Event) – [QCommons.com → Costa Mesa] • With God Daily Devotional App – withgoddaily.com • "With" by Sky Jethani – Amazon • Sky's Article: "The Case Against Sermon-Centric Sundays" (Premier Christianity) – Premier Christianity Be part of the ongoing conversation around reimagining church for Jesus-centered community and formation. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow the Voxology Podcast on your favorite platforms. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue Jesus together. Email your thoughts to [email protected] and join the community on Facebook and Instagram. Watch us on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Grab merch and support the mission: ETSY Store Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support Voxology on Patreon Check out the Voxology Spotify music channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the Apostle Paul's cosmic vision of salvation reshapes everything we thought we knew. Mike, Bonnie, and Tim sit down with Pauline scholar Dr. Tim Gombis to talk about one massive question: why did Jesus have to die? What begins as a conversation about atonement turns into an hour-plus deep-dive into how Paul viewed salvation, sin, and the church—not as individual concerns, but as cosmic realities. Gombis pulls back the curtain on distorted gospel narratives common in modern Christianity and reframes salvation not as ledger-clearing, but as the liberation of all creation from enslaving cosmic powers. From understanding wrath as a pervasive force within the present evil age to rethinking what Paul meant by "forgiveness of sins," this episode challenges individualistic soteriology and calls us to see gospel, sanctification, and mission as profoundly communal. Oh, and yes, Romans 3 and the "sinner's prayer" don't go unchallenged here either. Key Takeaways: • The Cosmic Purpose of Christ's Death – Jesus didn't die just to forgive your sins; his death shattered the present evil age and launched an entirely new creation. • The Problem with Individualistic Salvation – Paul wasn't driven by questions of individual guilt and judgment but by the need to reconstitute a people for God's mission. • Forgiveness as New Creation Space – "Forgiveness of sins" isn't a personal transaction—it's the name of the kingdom arena God carved out in the midst of a polluted world. • How Sin and Death Hijacked God's Plan – Sin, death, and wrath are not personal moral failures—they're cosmic powers that enslaved all of creation, including the law and Israel. • Salvation as Liberation, Not Just Justification – Through Jesus, God rescued a people (not just persons) from the reign of sin and death and into Spirit-empowered, reconciled community. Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombis – Pauline scholar, professor, and author, Tim challenges foundational assumptions about salvation, atonement, forgiveness, and mission with both academic depth and personal vulnerability. A recurring friend of the show, Gombis brings rich theological insight with a pastor's heart. Resources Mentioned: • "Reading Romans Backwards" by Scot McKnight • "Militant Grace" by Philip Ziegler • "The Drama of Ephesians" by Tim Gombis • "The Triumph of Abraham's God" by Bruce Longenecker • "Saint Paul, Our Mother" by Beverly Gaventa • Heated: A Conversation on Women in Leadership – Oct 18 in Costa Mesa (more info on Heated IG & Facebook) Don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review to help more folks discover Voxology. And join us on Instagram and Facebook as we continue unpacking this one and rethinking salvation in both personal and communal terms. Email your thoughts and questions to [email protected] and, as always, let's keep pursuing the true mission of Jesus together. Watch episodes on VOXOLOGY TV (YouTube) Merch Store ETSY Support us on Patreon Subscribe via Apple Podcasts or Spotify Follow: @voxologypodcast • Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford // IG & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How should followers of Jesus approach mental health in a way that's faithful, honest, and deeply human? In this vulnerable and theology-rich conversation, Mike Erre, Bonnie Lewis, and Tim Stafford unpack the complexities of mental illness through a biblical lens. Building a positive theology of mental health, they respond to a viral Christian post that stigmatized mental illness among pastors—particularly surrounding suicide and leadership in the church. Together, the hosts challenge damaging narratives and explore how the church can become a redemptive, healing community for those navigating anxiety, depression, trauma, and spiritual struggle. Key Takeaways: • Theological Missteps on Mental Health – Addressing the harmful assumption that mental illness is incompatible with Christian leadership and exploring the flawed linkage between mental illness, apostasy, and doctrinal doubt. • A Biblical Theology of Mental Health – How scripture offers robust categories for mental illness through the lenses of the imago Dei, embodiment, communal identity, and the effects of the Fall. • Jesus and Mental Illness – What the Gospels reveal about God's presence with the suffering and the misunderstood, and how Jesus modeled compassion and holistic healing. • Church Culture and Vulnerability – Why the church's overemphasis on strength, certainty, and positivity needs to be replaced by embracing lament, doubt, and emotional honesty. • Leadership and Struggle – Why brokenness doesn't disqualify leaders, but unacknowledged weakness might. The necessity of structure, accountability, and a broader definition of health in ministry. • Restoring Belonging – Critiquing the theology of "unbelonging" that drives suffering people into isolation rather than into community, and reclaiming the church's mandate to embody reconciliation, restoration, and grace. Resource Highlights: • Book: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk – A key resource for understanding how trauma is experienced and stored in the body. • Book: Finding Quiet by J.P. Moreland – A theologically rooted personal story of overcoming anxiety and finding peace through integrated care. • Book: People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck – Explores evil's psychological and spiritual manifestations. • Biblical Texts Referenced – Psalms (especially 6, 13, 88), Job, Lamentations, the Gospels (Jesus and healing marginalized individuals), and Elijah's story in 1 Kings 19. • Therapeutic Approaches – Discussion of therapy modalities, including EMDR (referenced but unnamed), the effectiveness of talk therapy, and the mindful use of medication with spiritual discernment. Engage with this vital conversation and join us in reshaping how the church thinks, talks about, and responds to mental health realities—with compassion, truth, and a commitment to wholeness. We'd love to hear your story or thoughts as we continue pursuing this essential dialogue. Email us anytime at [email protected], and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're also on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out the VOXOLOGY Merch Store on ETSY Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Learn more about the show at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How a wider vision of God, a richer gospel, and a reenchanted faith can help restore your wonder and reignite your purpose. This special episode of Voxology, featuring Mike Erre's conversation with Alan Hirsch and Mark Nelson, kicks off the Reframation Series with a deeply challenging and encouraging blueprint for recovering the beauty of Jesus and the mission of the Church. Borrowing from Hirsch and Nelson's new book, "Reframation," the episode explores how the evangelical church in the West has lost its way—not because of too little doctrine but because of reductionism. By shrinking God to a manageable size, theology becomes heresy, and the gospel becomes a formula instead of a life-altering mystery. It's time for something bigger. Key Takeaways: • Reframing vs. Reforming – Why the Church doesn't just need new formatting, but a complete reframing of its views of God, gospel, people, and mission. • The Problem of Reductionism – How minimizing God to a set of doctrines results in distorted theology, bad community, and failed witness. • Heresy as Shrinking Truth – Rethinking "heresy" not as being wrong but as reducing a single truth into "the whole" truth. • The Gospel Is Bigger – Moving past a guilt-based gospel to embrace liberation for the oppressed, restoration for the broken, and belonging for the shamed. • Wonder is not Weakness – How awe, beauty, imagination, and mystery are not optional aesthetics but central to knowing God. • Voices We've Missed – Why expanding theology means honoring the perspectives of women, the marginalized, and non-Western frameworks. Guest Highlights: Alan Hirsch – Missional thought leader and author of "The Forgotten Ways," Hirsch brings decades of praxis-driven insight into how the church can rediscover its true shape and calling. Mark Nelson – Pastor of Crossings in Knoxville, TN, and co-author of "Reframation," Nelson shares from the frontlines of leading a congregation toward deeper mystery, love, and community. Resources Mentioned: • Reframation: Seeing God, People and Mission Through Reenchanted Frames – reframationbook.com • Twitter: @AlanHirsch • Church Website – Crossings Knoxville: crossingsknoxville.com • Quote Highlight: "If you think you've got God in your doctrine, I promise you—it's not God you've got." • "The Forgotten Ways" by Alan Hirsch – [Link] • "Redeeming Theology" – Article by Mike on renewed spiritual imagination [Link if available] Engage the bigger story and help us move toward a wide-eyed, reenchanted faith. Subscribe to Voxology, leave a review, and follow us on social to keep the conversation going. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue this together. Send your responses, thoughts, or questions to [email protected], and join the community on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Unpacking how Jesus is the clearest revelation of God and the essential key to interpreting the Old Testament with clarity, compassion, and consistency, Mike, Tim, and Bonnie wrap up their "BONNIE Strikes Back" series with a thoughtful and humor-filled reflection on scripture. This episode explores how reading the Bible as a unified narrative centered on Jesus reframes how we engage with the more difficult and confusing aspects of the Old Testament. The hosts highlight how understanding recapitulation, divine accommodation, and cross-centered hermeneutics can illuminate the character of God and bring life to ancient texts. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Jesus as the Lens – Why Jesus is the interpretive center of the Bible and how this affects the way we read the Old Testament. • Recapitulation Explained – Learning how Jesus re-enacts Israel's and humanity's story in a redemptive, faithful way that reveals God's character. • Embracing the Messiness – Why it's important not to sanitize or skip over difficult texts but to sit with them, wrestle, and trust Jesus as the clearest picture of God. • Divine Accommodation – Exploring Greg Boyd's view that the Old Testament includes pictures of God shaped by human sin and limited cultural lenses, not contradictions to Jesus. • Engaging the Text with Curiosity – How Tim Mackie's advice to approach challenging scriptures with humility and curiosity helps unlock richer understanding and deeper theology. Resources Mentioned: • Episode 101 – How to Read the Bible with Tim Mackie of The Bible Project • Episode 95 – "Angry God and Peaceful Jesus" with Greg Boyd • Episode 169 – How is the Old Testament Authoritative for Jesus Followers? • The Bible Project – https://bibleproject.com • Greg Boyd's Cross Vision theology on divine accommodation Join us in reimagining what it means to read the Bible through the lens of Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social to continue exploring how deep, curious faith reshapes our encounter with Scripture. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How understanding the heart behind biblical generosity can reshape your relationship with money, discipleship, and community. In this fourth episode of the Voxology Q&A Series, Mike, Tim, and Bonnie dive deep into the topic of tithing—addressing how it was practiced in the Old Testament, its evolution through the early church, and what generosity looks like in the life of a Jesus follower today. Mike and Bonnie reflect on personal stories, spiritual disciplines, and scriptural insights to challenge the legalistic approach to giving and recenter it around the person and teachings of Jesus. They draw a clear line between the Levitical tithe and New Testament generosity, offering a liberating reframing of tithing as a joy-filled practice of trust, stewardship, and kingdom participation. Key Takeaways: • The Purpose of Tithing in the Old Testament – Exploring tithes as temple support, social justice, and a tool for cultivating generosity. • New Testament Giving – Why Paul doesn't teach a 10% mandate, and how Christian giving becomes about internal transformation, compassion for the poor, and freedom from the idolatry of wealth. • Generosity as a Spiritual Discipline – How being both disciplined and spontaneous in giving shapes our character and breaks the grip of consumerism. • The Danger of Legalism – Why tithing shouldn't be reduced to a religious checkbox, and why giving should be rooted in joy, not guilt or manipulation. • What to Consider When Giving to a Church or Organization – The importance of support for the poor, church transparency, and non-religious motivations behind your generosity. Guest Highlights: Bonnie – Reflects on a transformative teaching moment from Mike that shaped her perspective on generosity and how trust in God's abundance opens the door to free and joyful giving. Tim Stafford – Shares lessons learned from partnering with homeless shelters, encouraging intentional, impact-driven giving and how generosity of time and presence is just as vital. Resources Mentioned: • Biblical References: Genesis (Melchizedek), Levitical laws on tithing, Deuteronomy (stewardship), Acts 2 and 4, and Paul's teachings in 2 Corinthians • Homeless services and shelters in Long Beach as examples of targeted giving • The Popcorn Illustration teaching from Mike's Rock Harbor sermon Let's move beyond obligation and into a lifestyle of transformative generosity. Subscribe to Voxology, leave us a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected! As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we journey together. Email your thoughts or questions to [email protected], or connect with us on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out the merch: VOXOLOGY on Etsy Visit the website: voxologypodcast.com Listen on iTunes or Spotify Support us on Patreon Follow Mike: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A thought-provoking conversation that unpacks the foundations, expressions, and challenges of Reformed Theology from a pastoral and personal lens. Responding to listener Sarah's question, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie dive deep into the theology behind Calvinism, discussing both its fruit and its fallout. They explore how theological systems can sometimes shrink our view of Jesus and grapple with the implications of sovereignty, election, grace, and salvation. Whether you're wrestling with doctrines like tulip, questioning predestination, or struggling with your place in a church culture that feels too rigid, this episode invites you into a gracious, nuanced, and honest conversation about where God's love and mystery intersect with theological systems. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Reformed Theology – A clear breakdown of the five solas and the tulip acronym that define Calvinist thought. • The Trouble with Tight Systems – Why neatly packaged theology sometimes fails to leave room for mystery, grace, and the full breadth of Jesus. • Rethinking Sovereignty – Mike outlines his disagreement with the concept of "meticulous sovereignty"—that God controls every detail, including suffering—and advocates for a more Jesus-centered view. • Fruit and Warnings of Reformed Culture – Bonnie vulnerably shares her personal struggles with some Reformed spaces and the rigidity they can carry, while also acknowledging the depth of biblical engagement she's seen in that tradition. • When to Stay and When to Leave a Church – Practical wisdom for those questioning their theological fit while still feeling connected to their church community. Resources Mentioned: • Previous Voxology Episodes on Deal Breakers • Five Solas of the Reformation – More Info • Theological Breakdown: TULIP Explained – Calvinism Overview • Scripture References – Genesis 1–2, Revelation 21–22, various teachings of Jesus and Paul on grace, salvation, and sovereignty Join the Voxology community as we continue wrestling with tough theological questions and strive to better reflect the love, grace, and humility of Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and connect with us on social media to become part of the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast https://voxologypodcast.com/ Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Apple: https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/voxology The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com/ Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Unpacking one of the most debated practices within Christianity, Mike, Bonnie, and Tim tackle the tension between infant baptism and believer baptism in this heartfelt installment of the Voxology Q & A Series. Rooted in the question, "Does baptism mark the beginning of our faith journey—or respond to it?", the conversation explores the theological, historical, and pastoral dimensions of baptizing children, especially in situations involving cognitive impairments or uncertainty about later personal belief. With humor, vulnerability, and depth, the team navigates the meaning of baptism, the radical inclusivity of Jesus' posture toward the marginalized and children, and the dangers of fear-based spirituality. As stories unfold—including a powerful moment from Bonnie's childhood—they reaffirm that salvation is never transactional or performance-based, but a generous invitation rooted in God's grace. Key Takeaways: • The Historical Debate – Overview of baptism's origins in Jewish practice, John the Baptist's ministry, and how baptism developed within the early church as a rite of repentance and identification with Christ. • Infant vs. Believer Baptism – Understanding both views: infant baptism as covenant inclusion based on parental faith vs. believer baptism as a personal expression of faith. • The Grace of God and Non-Cognitive Belief – Addressing what happens to children or individuals who may never cognitively be able to "choose" faith, and how Jesus' treatment of children reflects God's mercy and priority for the vulnerable. • Baptism Without Fear – Why salvation isn't tied to a correct ritual or church affiliation, and how shame-based theology distorts the good news. "If Paul were alive today," Mike says, "he would write a book that would be much like Galatians against the people who insist you must be baptized their way to be saved." • Healing from Legalistic Teaching – Bonnie shares a formative story of being told as a child that baptism was one of "several requirements" to get into heaven, leading to years of anxiety—and how grace-based theology helped bring healing and freedom. Notable Quotes: • "The marriage is a condition of the heart—baptism is the same." • "Faith is always shown in action. But salvation starts with the generosity of God, not the effectiveness of our ritual." • "Jesus elevated children not just because they were cute, but because they exemplify the kind of dependency that brings about the kingdom of God." Resources Mentioned: • Scripture References – Romans, Acts, Galatians, and the story of David and his son (2 Samuel 12) • Seth Erie's Prayers – A touching example of raw, beautiful faith from a young man with disabilities Join the conversation as listeners navigate the deeper meaning of baptism, faith, and spiritual growth together. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on social media to be part of the ongoing dialogue. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What books have most influenced your faith, theology, and spiritual growth? In this first installment of a new Listener Q&A mini-series, Mike, Tim, and Bonnie answer a listener question about the books that have made the biggest impact on their spiritual formation. From classics like C.S. Lewis to modern voices like Rachel Held Evans and Tim Keller, you'll walk away with a fresh stack of reading recommendations—plus a few laughs about tattoos, Harry Potter, and the occasional theological rabbit trail. This quick-hit episode packs deep insight and personal storytelling into just 20 minutes, reflecting on the kinds of books that changed how the hosts pray, think, and follow Jesus—and why some books just keep speaking across seasons. Key Takeaways: • The top spiritual books that shaped Mike, Tim, and Bonnie's faith journeys—including both popular and more scholarly reads. • How Dallas Willard's The Divine Conspiracy and Foster's Celebration of Discipline redefined discipleship and spiritual practice. • Why C.S. Lewis remains timeless, from The Screwtape Letters to A Grief Observed and Mere Christianity. • Books that help process church hurt, grief, and doubt—like Searching for Sunday and A Grief Observed. • The blend of humorous and heartfelt storytelling that makes faith exploration a little more human. Book Highlights: • The Divine Conspiracy – Dallas Willard • Celebration of Discipline – Richard Foster • The Screwtape Letters & Mere Christianity – C.S. Lewis • A Grief Observed – C.S. Lewis • Searching for Sunday – Rachel Held Evans • Surprised By Hope – N.T. Wright • The Prodigal God – Tim Keller • The Cost of Discipleship – Dietrich Bonhoeffer • Blue Like Jazz – Donald Miller • The Blue Parakeet – Scot McKnight • Breakthrough – Derek Morphew • Reappearing Church – Mark Sayers • Reframeation – Alan Hirsch & Mark Henderson • Her Gates Will Never Be Shut – Brad Jersak Resources Mentioned: • C.S. Lewis collection – cslewisinstitute.org • Celebration of Discipline – InterVarsity Press • Surprised by Hope by N.T. Wright – Amazon • The Voxology Non-ference and community resources – voxologypodcast.com Got questions of your own? Email them to [email protected] or message us on Facebook/Instagram. Your question may get featured in this Q&A mini-series! Subscribe, leave a rating, and follow Voxology to stay connected and support authentic conversations about faith and culture. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Shop our Merch Store: ETSY Support us on Patreon Listen on iTunes or Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy) As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How reading the Bible alongside survivors of sexual abuse can transform our understanding of Scripture, the church, and the mission of Jesus. Mike Erre sits down with theologian, pastor, and former Duke Divinity School dean Dr. Elaine Heath to discuss her powerful new book, Healing the Wounds of Sexual Abuse: Reading the Bible with Survivors. Digging into themes of trauma, patriarchal theology, the misuse of scripture, and the redemptive potential of re-reading scripture through a different lens, this episode invites listeners into a conversation that is both deeply challenging and profoundly hopeful. Dr. Heath shares her personal experience as a survivor and her journey into ministry—a path shaped by hardship, passion for Christ, and the call to reimagine theological education through the Neighborhood Seminary. Together, she and Mike explore how survivors offer wisdom the church desperately needs and how honest conversations around abuse, power, redemption, and scripture can lead to individual and communal healing. Key Takeaways: • Reading Scripture with the Marginalized – How engaging the Bible through the lens of abuse survivors—particularly women—uncovers new depths and meanings in familiar texts. • The Cost of Patriarchy in the Church – How patriarchal theology and the idolization of male authority have fostered environments of silence, shame, and abuse. • God's Nearness to the Vulnerable – Dr. Heath's profound insight into Matthew 25 and her personal encounter with Jesus's presence during her own experiences of abuse. • A Call to Action for Churches – Practical and theological ways faith communities can become refuges for victims and centers for education, justice, and healing. • Fatherhood, Femininity & Representation – Why parents and churches must counter cultural pressures with a holistic, gender-inclusive theology of personhood and giftings. Guest Highlights: Dr. Elaine Heath – Author, theologian, and founder of the Neighborhood Seminary. As a professor and ordained United Methodist pastor, Dr. Heath's work uniquely bridges academic theology, pastoral care, and deep healing. In her book and this conversation, she powerfully argues that survivors offer critical theological insights the church must heed. Resources Mentioned: • Healing the Wounds of Sexual Abuse: Reading the Bible with Survivors by Elaine Heath • Neighborhood Seminary – neighborhoodseminary.org • FaithTrust Institute – faithtrustinstitute.org • Christians for Biblical Equality International – cbeinternational.org • Reviving Ophelia by Mary Pipher • Future Church by Wes Granberg-Michaelson • Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised Podcast • Shameless by Nadia Bolz-Weber Call to Action: Join the movement toward theology that heals. Share this episode with someone who needs it. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on Instagram and Facebook @voxologypodcast. Let's continue these conversations on justice, healing, and reclaiming Jesus's mission of love for the marginalized. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion. Send your questions or thoughts to [email protected]. Watch us on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Visit Our Merch Store: Etsy – Voxology Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Listen & Subscribe: • Apple Podcasts • Spotify Support the podcast on Patreon More curated music and conversation at Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow Mike: Twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the enemy-making machine has wormed its way into our churches—and how to dismantle it with spiritual discernment, humility, and a commitment to personal and communal reformation. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by theologian and author David Fitch to explore themes from his book "The Church of Us vs. Them: Freedom from a Faith That Feeds on Making Enemies." Fitch presents a powerful critique of how evangelical churches have aligned with power, created ideological purity tests, and become known more for their enemies than for their love. Through wit, insight, and a bit of holy mischief, Fitch confronts how distinctives like inerrancy, eschatology, and gender roles evolve into antagonistic banners that suppress healthy dialogue. Instead, he advocates for a model of shared discernment, rooted in embodied theology, intentional community, and enemy-love in the spirit of Jesus. They deep-dive into complex, often polarized church conversations—particularly surrounding sexuality and biblical authority—and model what it looks like to pursue truth without resorting to vilification. Key Takeaways: • Banner vs. Belief – How important theological distinctives often turn into ideological weapons that prevent true discourse. • Understanding the Enemy-Making Machine – A framework for how churches build antagonistic identities by aligning against others, rather than toward Jesus. • Walking with Enemies – What it means to love those you disagree with, and why division can be avoided through listening and mutual submission. • Submission vs. Control – The importance of faithful theological leadership shaped in real communities of accountability, not coercive church systems. • Discerning in a Post-Christendom Culture – Why conflict is an opportunity to grow toward Christ's mission instead of drawing antagonistic battle lines. Guest Highlight: David Fitch – A pastor, theologian, and author committed to rethinking ecclesiology and culture through the Anabaptist tradition. He brings depth, humor, and prophetic edge as he explores how the church can rediscover its mission outside systems of power and division. Resources Mentioned: • David Fitch – The Church of Us vs. Them – Amazon Link • Missio Alliance Author Page – David Fitch on Missio • Andrew Marin – Us Versus Us • Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised podcast • Anthony Giddens – The Transformation of Intimacy • Bonhoeffer & the Confessing Church (historical reference) Join the conversation and share your own reflections on the banners you've carried—and how discernment might offer a better way forward. Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected! As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How stepping away from evangelical subculture doesn't always mean walking away from Jesus. Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, Bonnie, and special guest Andy Laura reunite for a raw and candid discussion on the rising wave of public deconstruction stories, including those of Josh Harris and Marty Sampson. They explore how rigid Christian systems often leave no space for doubt, grief, or change—and what a healthier path could look like for those questioning their faith. Highlighting how the evangelical church's rigidity, celebrity culture, and systematic certainty can actually fuel disillusionment, they call for a broader, more compassionate view of how faith evolves—and how to be people who hold pain well in others' journeys. Key Takeaways: • Leaving Evangelicalism ≠ Leaving Jesus – Many people stepping away from evangelical structures are still pursuing truth, peace, and meaning—and some are finding Jesus more clearly outside those systems. • Deconstruction in the Spotlight – Reflections on Josh Harris and Marty Sampson's public "falling away" and how the Christian response often lacks nuance and grace. • The Problem with the Purity and Celebrity Culture – How evangelicalism's obsession with youthful influencers and certainty has become spiritually stifling for many, including its former leaders. • Responding with Compassion, Not Correction – The importance of making room for doubt, grief, and growth—especially for those wrestling with honest questions about hell, justice, and Christian hypocrisy. • Holding Pain Well – Why the church must be a safe place for honest wrestling and brokenness, not just praise and performance. Guest Highlights: Andy Laura – Former Vox Community pastor and original Voxology co-host, Andy brings his unique wit and wisdom back to the mic for a deep, poignant conversation about leaving ministry, parenting in chaos, and creating meaningful work post-pastoring. Resources Mentioned: • Josh Harris's Instagram Post – "By all the measurements I have for defining a Christian, I am not one" • Stephen Colbert & Anderson Cooper on Grief – A masterclass in holding pain with dignity and hope • Sleepless Clothing Line – wearesleepless.com The Voxology crew invites you to question openly, process authentically, and walk humbly together toward a more honest expression of faith rooted in Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow the conversation on Instagram and Facebook. Help us build a community committed to justice, grace, and the beautiful mess of spiritual formation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How Paul's vision of the cross calls the church to resist domineering power structures and create a radically different community rooted in the kingdom of God. In this fifth installment of the Exile Series, Mike Erre and special guest Dr. Timothy Gombis unpack a deeply political and countercultural lens for following Jesus, grounding the conversation in Paul's letters and the gospel of Mark. Hear how our identity as the church reorients our political posture—not toward partisan divides, but toward the radical surrender, hospitality, and justice modeled by the crucified Christ. This wide-ranging conversation tackles nationalism, immigration, abortion, the misuse of Romans 13, the myth of a "Christian nation," and the idolatry of power in both American culture and the evangelical church. Key Takeaways: • Politics as the Expression of Discipleship – Why Paul's gospel is entirely political—but not in the way we think. The church is a political body under the lordship of Jesus. • The Cross as Political Suicide and Kingdom Triumph – Cruciformity (living in the shape of the cross) is not a private spirituality but a public, political resistance to domination, exploitation, and hierarchy. • Rejecting Empire Loyalties – How aligning Christianity with political parties or nationalism leads to idolatry, and why liberal/conservative labels distort the gospel's political implications. • Political Engagement ≠ Party Politics – Practical ways the church can embody Jesus' politics today: from advocating for immigration reform to welcoming marginalized communities. • Interrogating the Pro-Life Identity – Gombis challenges a one-issue approach to Christian ethics by re-centering compassion, justice, and sustained action through the local church rather than political coercion. Guest Highlights: Dr. Timothy Gombis – Pauline scholar, professor at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary, and creator of the blog "Faith Improvised." Gombis brings deep expertise on Paul's political theology and gospel ethics, particularly around the themes of empire, identity, and cross-shaped living. His fresh reading of Mark and Paul's letters calls us to a bold reimagining of what it means to follow Jesus in the public square. Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Blog – faithimprovised.blogspot.com • Michael Gorman – Inhabiting the Cruciform God – [Link] • Michael Gorman – Reading Paul – [Link] • Sylvia Keesmaat & Brian Walsh – Romans Disarmed – [Link] • Scot McKnight – Reading Romans Backwards – [Link] • Ephesians: The Drama of Ephesians by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Mark 4: The Parable of the Soils – Reimagined as a critique of superficial discipleship and misuse of Jesus' message Join us in this vital conversation as we rethink what it means to be the Church in exile—a community shaped not by cultural battles or fear, but by radical love, justice, and the Lordship of the crucified Christ. Subscribe, leave a review on iTunes or Spotify, and follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook to stay connected and be part of the ongoing dialogue. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Jesus-followers respond to tragedies like the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton in faithful, transformative ways? In this raw and reflective episode, Mike Erre, Bonnie, and Tim wrestle honestly with their grief, anger, and frustration in the wake of yet another national tragedy. They push back on empty Christian clichés, challenge politically entrenched responses, and instead offer a vision for lament, action, and reconciliation that reflects the way of Jesus—not American partisanship. This critical conversation touches on how the church must reject passivity and empty platitudes, and instead embrace deep repentance, courageous lament, and a prophetic presence in the world. Drawing from Scripture, painful personal experiences, and the Sermon on the Mount, the episode explores how to be light in the darkness without becoming a mirror of the world's rage and polarization. Key Takeaways: • Reclaiming Lament – Why biblical lament is not passive grief, but honest truth-telling rooted in the character of God and the hope of restoration. • Rejecting Cliché Responses – The danger of "thoughts and prayers" when they replace meaningful action and solidarity. • Nonpartisan Discipleship – Why the church must be a place where people from all political viewpoints can sit under the lordship of Jesus. • Enemy Love in Action – What it means to love your enemy without condoning injustice, and how this calls the church to speak boldly against white nationalism and all forms of hate. • The Church as Reconciling Community – Creating spaces for repentance, listening, and redemptive conversations that resist the fracturing of our culture. Notable Quotes: "There's something deeply hypocritical about praying for a problem you are unwilling to resolve." "If gun owners are willing to fight to save one unborn child, shouldn't we be willing to give up something if it could save even one life in a mass shooting?" Resources Mentioned: • Miroslav Volf – Reflections on confronting evil with actions, not only prayer • Dallas Willard – Teachings on "joyful non-compliance" and discipleship • Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5-7 • James 1:27 – "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure…" This episode is a sobering yet hopeful reminder that we can—and must—live into a better story. Join the ongoing dialogue about how to embody Jesus's love in a divided world. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite platform or social media channel to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage questions and community dialogue as we journey together. Email us at [email protected] and connect on Facebook and Instagram. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV: https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Shop Voxology Merch: https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voxology Learn more at: https://voxologypodcast.com Listen on Apple: https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr Follow the hosts: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford: https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com Twitter/Instagram: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A deep dive into how interpreting scripture through a 21st-century lens can distort its original context and nuance, using the story of the Syrophoenician woman in Matthew 15 as a prime example. Mike, Bonnie, and Tim engage in a thoughtful and expansive conversation about what happens when modern theological frameworks—particularly around gender, power, and sexuality—are retroactively applied to ancient texts, and what that means for affirming theology, biblical authority, and faithful improvisation in today's culture wars. In this powerful episode, the team wrestles with the tension between empathy-fueled transformation and faithful biblical interpretation, and what it means to navigate political outrage, the collapse of evangelical purity culture, and the ongoing conversation around affirming LGBTQ+ theology. Key Takeaways: • Accurate Exegesis Matters – Why using the Syrophoenician woman as a text to depict Jesus as prejudiced misses the literary, historical, and rabbinical context of the passage. • Formation Over Outcomes – How our political and ethical posture as Christians needs to focus on internal transformation rather than managing public behaviors or outrage quotas. • Spiritual Discernment and New Movement – Exploring the possibility that something new is happening through the Spirit in the LGBTQ+ conversation and the church's evolving understanding. • Responsible Affirmation – If you're going to become theologically affirming, anchoring your views in sound scriptural interpretation benefits everyone—especially the marginalized communities theology intends to protect. • Purity Culture and Moralism – Reflecting on the demise of 90s-era evangelicalism and why non-redemptive moralism has left a legacy of confusion and trauma in matters of sexuality. • Contextual Wisdom – Why understanding context, genre, and historical nuance is crucial when building a theology rooted in justice and grace. Resources Mentioned: • Sarah Bessie's Blog – sarahbessey.com • Acts 15 – The Council of Jerusalem and the Spirit's new movement • Matthew 15:21–28 – The Syrophoenician/Canaanite Woman • Mark 7:24–30 – Alternate account of the same encounter • N.T. Wright – Insights on biblical narrative and improvisation • Joshua Harris – Author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye and the conversation surrounding purity culture • Romans Disarmed by Sylvia Keesmaat & Brian Walsh – [Link to Book] • Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – [Link to Podcast] Guest Highlights: No formal guest, but features robust theological insights from regular co-host Bonnie, particularly her academic background in exegesis and gender studies—offering a masterclass in responsible biblical interpretation. Listener Call to Action: This episode invites LGBTQ+ Christian listeners and allies to share how faithful biblical engagement has (or hasn't) felt helpful, liberating, or marginalizing. We'd love to hear from you as we continue building a theological ecosystem rooted in justice, truth, and grace. Subscribe, leave a review, and join the Voxology conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! VOXOLOGY ETSY Learn more at the Voxology Podcast Website 🟢 Subscribe on Spotify 🍎 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre 🎵 Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How seeing the book of Romans through the lens of justice, grief, and empire can radically reshape our faith and community. In their compelling conversation with Mike, Brian Walsh and Sylvia Keesmaat discuss their book "Romans Disarmed," a subversive and creative take on Paul's epistle that blends biblical exegesis with lament, narrative fiction, and political reflection. Through an intentional hermeneutic of sorrow, Walsh and Keesmaat challenge listeners to reimagine salvation, justice, and discipleship not as abstract theological constructs, but as embodied, communal realities shaped in resistance to empire. Drawing from their real-life experience building an intentional Christian community on a permaculture farm in Canada—and a deep-seated commitment to the marginalized—they unravel the ways Romans has been weaponized in political and theological battles, and propose a reading that centers liberation, justice, and the radical love of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Reclaiming Romans from Empire and Individualism – How Paul's epistle, long used to justify nationalist or exclusionary theology, actually challenges imperial power and promotes a justice-shaped gospel. • Scripture as Resistance – Recovering the communal, narrative, and justice-rooted dimensions of the Bible beyond doctrinal proof-texting and theological systems. • A Hermeneutic of Sorrow – How entering scripture through places of grief, like the loss of a friend or systemic injustice, can activate faithful, compassionate readings. • Salvation as Communal Liberation – Moving beyond personal piety to understand salvation as holistic freedom—economic, social, and relational—for the oppressed. • Sexuality and the Roman World – Interrogating Romans 1 in its historical context, including how Paul's concerns about exploitative systems differ from modern ideas around orientation. • Lament as Theological Praxis – The importance of grief, creation care, and embodied life in shaping a Christian ethic worthy of Jesus. Guest Highlights: Brian Walsh & Sylvia Keesmaat – Scholars and activists, authors of "Colossians Remixed" and "Romans Disarmed." They live on a permaculture farm, model intentional community, and call for the church to rediscover its prophetic imagination and justice-first mission in a post-Christendom age. Resources Mentioned: • Romans Disarmed by Brian Walsh & Sylvia Keesmaat – Buy the book • Colossians Remixed – Link • Tim Gombis on Hermeneutics – Past Voxology episode • The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider • School of Prophets (NT Wright View of Scripture) – Ongoing thought partnership mentioned by Sylvia Join us as we wrestle with how to reimagine Christianity free from empire, full of justice, and radically shaped by the love of Jesus. Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, and follow us on social media for more conversations that matter. Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected] and join the discussion on Facebook and Instagram. Check out more from the podcast: • YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV • Merch Store: ETSY • Website: voxologypodcast.com • Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify • Support the podcast: Patreon • Spotify channel: Voxology Radio • Follow Mike: Twitter Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the biblical command to love the stranger challenges political assumptions, reshapes our view of immigration, and offers a new path forward. Mike, Tim, and Bonnie launch the Immigration Series by welcoming Matthew Soerens, author of "Welcoming the Stranger" and U.S. Director of Church Mobilization with World Relief, for a thoughtful, honest, and compassionate discussion at the intersection of faith, politics, and immigration. Matthew breaks down decades of policy confusion and popular misconceptions while calling Christians back to foundational biblical truths. Drawing from Scripture and real-life examples, this episode explores what it means to love our neighbors—especially when they come from different places—and why it's essential for the church to lead in conversations around immigration, justice, and national policy. Key Takeaways: • Biblical Foundations for Immigration – Scripture is filled with stories of migration and commands to protect and care for the foreigner, which must shape Christian attitudes and responses to modern immigration. • Separating Fact from Fear – Immigration myths debunked: most asylum seekers are not lawbreakers, and refugees undergo the most rigorous vetting process of any group entering the U.S. • Refugees, Asylum Seekers, and Immigrants—What's the Difference? – Understanding critical distinctions between immigration categories and why it matters legally and compassionately. • A Better Way Forward – Creating immigration policies that are both just and compassionate: secure borders, legal pathways, and restitution-based legalization for undocumented immigrants already here. • The Church's Unique Role – Why this is not just a political issue, but a discipleship issue rooted in hospitality, justice, and the mission of Jesus. Guest Highlights: Matthew Soerens – U.S. Director of Church Mobilization at World Relief and co-author of Welcoming the Stranger. Matthew shares how his work with immigrants and refugees shaped his understanding of the Bible's mandate to love the stranger and encouraged churches to reframe the immigration conversation as a gospel opportunity. Resources Mentioned: • Welcoming the Stranger by Matthew Soerens and Jenny Yang – [Link] • Evangelical Immigration Table – evangelicalimmigrationtable.com • World Relief – worldrelief.org • Thinking Biblically About Immigrants and Immigration Reform – Free eBook – [Link] Want to help? Visit worldrelief.org/families to support frontline refugee and migrant care. Get involved, share this conversation, and help spread biblical compassion in the immigration debate. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave us a review, and follow us on social media. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion. Feel free to email questions and thoughts to [email protected], and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube – VOXOLOGY TV Check out the Merch Store – VOXOLOGY on Etsy Learn more at the Voxology Podcast website Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support us on Patreon Voxology on Spotify Music: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Want to know how to interpret the Bible with humility and maturity in a fractured and polarized culture? This deep-dive conversation between Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, Bonnie, and returning guest Tim Gombis continues the "Misunderstanding the Bible" series by peeling back the layers on hermeneutics, historical assumptions, interpretive power dynamics, and the posture Christians bring to Scripture. The episode kicks off with an honest reflection on listener feedback about tone and disdain when critiquing political and theological stances—offering a real-time example of the humility and self-critique Tim Gombis later emphasizes as vital to responsible interpretation. They then unfold a richer vision of reading the Bible—not as a storehouse of propositional truth or ammunition for proving others wrong, but as an invitation to be mastered by the text, to date it (i.e., live with it over time), and to discern its logic through community, cross, and new creation lenses. Key Takeaways: • Rethinking Hermeneutics – Why "sound hermeneutics" alone can't guarantee truthful or faithful readings of Scripture, and how that too often reinforces existing power structures. • Reading as Formation, Not Control – How interpretive posture—not just methodology—determines whether we're being shaped by the Bible or using it to control others. • Scripture as Relationship – Tim Gombis introduces the idea of "dating the text," encouraging long-term, immersive reading to let Scripture reveal its shape. • Welcoming the Tension of Disagreement – How church leaders can hold space for unresolved tension around issues like sexuality, while remaining faithful to Jesus' call for unity, humility, and welcome. • Using the Bible Without Weaponizing It – Addressing the damage done when Scripture is used to enforce ideology rather than facilitate community discernment. Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombis – New Testament scholar and Professor at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary. Known for his work on Paul, the New Testament, and the ethics of interpretation, Tim brings incisive insight and disarming humility. He challenges listeners to move beyond modernist methods and into a deeper, community-shaped reading of Scripture that is faithful to both text and Spirit. Resources Mentioned: • Richard Hays' Model – Community, Cross, and New Creation framework for biblical ethics. • Kevin Vanhoozer – Essay in Evangelical Futures on interpretive approaches. • Romans 1–2 and 14–15 – How Paul's rhetorical flow shapes our ethics and humility. • Church Discipline in 1 Corinthians 5 – Differentiating destructive behavior from personal journeys. • Gospels (especially Matthew and Mark) – Drawing insight from Jesus' approach to judgment, hospitality, and discernment. • N.T. Wright – The Bible as a unified story told through genre-rich literature. Find yourself grappling with how to interpret Scripture in our polarized world? Whether dealing with hard conversations around sexuality, church unity, or biblical authority, this episode offers a framework of humility, curiosity, and transformation. Be part of the community striving to read the Bible responsibly and graciously. Subscribe, leave us a review, and follow us on social media to continue this essential conversation. Write to us: [email protected] Join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram: @voxologypodcast Check out the YouTube channel: VOXOLOGY TV Support us on Patreon and explore our Merch Store on Etsy Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Music by Timothy John Stafford — @GoneTimothy on socials Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Check out our curated Spotify collections at Voxology Radio As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How embracing spiritual homelessness can lead to deeper maturity, richer community, and a more authentic vision of Jesus. In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie dive into the emails and reflections flowing from their recent "Spiritually Homeless" and "Future of the Church" conversations. Together, they unpack tough theological questions, critiques about the direction of the show, challenges in church culture, and moments of clarity about why spiritual tension may actually be a gift. This isn't just a mailbag—it's a soul-searching conversation about making space at the table for spiritual wanderers, the marginalized, and those disillusioned by religious systems that fail to reflect Jesus. From deconstruction fatigue to gender roles in ministry, from megachurch questions to forgiveness journeys, this episode is a snapshot of a diverse and longing community seeking to build something new—together. Key Takeaways: • Spiritual Homelessness as Growth – Why questioning, discomfort, and feeling adrift spiritually can invite deeper relationship with Jesus and others. • Inclusivity and Justice in Church Leadership – How unclear or harmful stances on women in ministry directly impact not just individuals but entire congregations. • Forgiveness as a Path to Community – A powerful testimony on how personal healing after church hurt created space to re-engage faith and community without bitterness. • Holding Tension Well – The team discusses how to balance critique with grace, truth with love, and tradition with transformation. • Redefining Church – Honest reflections on small group dynamics, megachurch systems, and how house churches or new forms might open room for hard conversations that foster belonging. • Making Jesus Beautiful – Responding to feedback about the tone of recent episodes and the ongoing desire to point everything—critique included—toward the real Jesus. Quotes Worth Noting: • "True spiritual maturity is being at peace with people no matter where they're at. Even if you vehemently disagree, they're still worthy of dignity, respect, and love." • "If our spiritual homelessness causes others to feel alienated, that's not growth—it's gatekeeping in new clothes." • "Forgiveness wasn't about them—it was about clearing my soul enough so I could hear God again." Resources Mentioned: • Episode 195 – "Spiritually Homeless" • "The Patient Ferment of the Early Church" by Alan Kreider • "Resident Aliens" by Stanley Hauerwas and William Willimon • Past "Future of the Church" conversations with Tim Gombis, Sky Jethani, Andy Crouch, and Rick • Zenos Christian Fellowship model – [Link to learn more about their house church discipleship structure] Call to Action: Share your story of spiritual tension or hope with us! Email us at [email protected] and let us know what you're learning on your journey. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on your favorite podcast platform and social media to stay part of the Voxology community. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more: voxologypodcast.com Support the Podcast: Patreon Listen on iTunes or Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy) As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Recovering Paul's radical gospel for today's church, Mike Erre sits down with Pauline scholar Dr. Timothy Gombis for an honest and theologically rich conversation that peels back cultural assumptions and reexamines the complexities—and power—of Paul's letters. From ancient household codes to modern questions about gender, race, power, and sexuality, Mike and Dr. Gombis explore how Paul's vision of Christ-shaped community invites us into a radically inclusive, justice-seeking, cruciform way of life. Key Takeaways: • Reframing Paul's Letters – How misreadings shaped by evangelical subcultures distort Paul's intent on topics like women, sex, slavery, and sin. • Household Codes as Subversion – Understanding how Paul uses Roman structures not to uphold, but to radically counter, systems of power and honor through a Jesus-centered ethic. • Cross-Shaped Discipleship – How Philippians 2 models a life of relinquishing privilege and embracing others in humility, community, and solidarity. • White Privilege and Christlikeness – How a posture of listening, repentance, and mutuality allows privileged Christians to walk in the way of Christ's self-emptying love. • Hospitality over Judgment – Why the gospel's call to LGBTQ+ individuals must begin with deep welcome, shared burden-bearing, and long-term relational faithfulness—not assumptions or demands. • Redefining Power in the Church – Exploring why Paul, if alive today, would likely be bewildered by large, production-oriented churches and how they contradict his vision of humble, table-sharing communities. Guest Highlight: Dr. Timothy Gombis – A New Testament scholar and author of "Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed" and "The Drama of Ephesians." Tim brings scholarly depth and pastoral wisdom to help the modern church rediscover Paul's radical, Christ-centered message. His reflections challenge listeners to approach Scripture with fresh eyes and courageous faithfulness. Resources Mentioned: • Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • The Drama of Ephesians by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • "Faith Improvised" podcast by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Michael Gorman's scholarship on cruciformity – [Link] • "Family Values and the Rise of the Christian Right" – [Link] • Philippians 2:5-11 and 2 Corinthians 4:7-12 – Key Scripture • Timothy Gombis's blog archive and GRTS SoundCloud teaching library – [Link] Join the movement of rekindling a just, humble, and inclusive church rooted deeply in the person of Jesus. Subscribe to Voxology, leave a review, and follow us on your favorite social platforms to join the community. As always, we encourage your thoughts and engagement. Email your questions to [email protected] and connect on Instagram and Facebook. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube Grab official Voxology merch in our ETSY store For more about the podcast, visit voxologypodcast.com Subscribe via Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the show on Patreon Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Original music by Timothy John Stafford – @GoneTimothy on Instagram & Twitter. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we rediscover the bold, persistent faith that moves God to act? In this special bonus episode, Mike Erre shares a powerful message on prayer originally delivered as a sermon—highlighting Jesus' teaching in Luke 11 about "shameless audacity" and its role in how we approach God. With encouragement from Tim Stafford, this episode revisits Mike's prior work as a teaching pastor to dive deeper into how chutzpah—or bold, shameless persistence—is validated and encouraged by Jesus himself. This thoughtful exploration challenges the idea that prayer is merely a religious exercise. Instead, Mike argues it is a powerful invitation to partner with God in shaping the world. By walking through Luke's gospel and highlighting five remarkable stories of radical faith, he shows how outrageous persistence and unfiltered honesty in prayer are not just acceptable—they're expected. Whether you're feeling lost in prayer or longing to re-engage with God more authentically, this episode is a genuine call back to honest, transformative communion with the divine. Key Takeaways: • Bold Prayer Matters – Jesus encourages persistent, shameless audacity in prayer, not polite hesitation. • God Responds to Chutzpah – From a midnight bread request to healing interruptions, the Gospels are full of examples where bold faith moved Jesus to act. • Prayer as Partnership – The biblical narrative constantly points to God inviting us into cooperation, not passive observation. • We Have Not Because We Ask Not – Sometimes we don't receive simply because we don't ask boldly or at all. • It's About Who We're Talking To – The goal isn't to manipulate God with perfect words, but to fully trust the goodness of the Father. Resources Mentioned: • Luke 11 – The parable of the midnight requester and Jesus' model prayer. • Luke 5, 7, 8, 18 – Examples of people practicing prayer and faith with shameless persistence. • James 4:2 – "You do not have because you do not ask." • Genesis 18 – Abraham negotiating with God over Sodom. • 2 Kings 20 – Hezekiah's faithful prayer and God's merciful response. • Other references: Exodus, Jeremiah, Ezekiel Let us know if this is a format you'd like to hear more of—sermon reflections that unveil a different side of the Voxology conversation. Reach out with feedback and share your own stories of learning to pray with chutzpah. To continue engaging with conversations that challenge, restore, and reframe faith through Jesus's mission of love and justice—subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media. As always, join the conversation! Email us your thoughts at [email protected] and follow along on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store: VOXOLOGY on Etsy Learn more about the podcast: voxologypodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the show on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does the church navigate a shifting cultural and theological landscape in the next 20 years? In this landmark 200th episode—affectionately dubbed "Bruce"—Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and thought leader Skye Jethani (Holy Post, With God Daily) to explore the future of Christianity in America. With Skye's background in pastoral ministry, publishing, and theological reflection, this conversation dives deep into how the church is evolving amidst political polarization, disillusionment with institutions, and the rise of digital influence. Mike and Skye unpack where traditional evangelicalism is heading, the resurgence of both progressive theology and fundamentalist reactions, and how the church might reclaim its relevance outside institutional structures. They also reflect on parenting, discipleship, political entanglement, and fostering wisdom over certainty in an era of endless foreground decisions. Key Takeaways: • Evangelicalism Is Shifting – Despite the outward success of conservative evangelical institutions, the theological convictions of younger churchgoers are aligning more with progressive Christianity. • The Rise of Fundamentalism on Both Ends – Cultural fragmentation and digital targeting are accelerating fundamentalist movements on both the right and left, leaving little space for thoughtful middle-ground discipleship. • Post-Cold War Christianity Requires Discernment – The church must move beyond 'us vs. them' culture-war mentalities and learn how to live wisely—embracing complexity over clarity. • Why Some Are Moving Past the Church – Disillusionment with power-driven churches and institutional failures is leading many to seek spiritual growth outside formal religious structures. • Hope for the Future Church – A remnant centered on Jesus, empowered by rest and love, and driven by the actual mission of God is quietly forming "outside the spotlight," echoing leaders like Dallas Willard and others who simply "smelled like Jesus." Guest Highlights: Skye Jethani – Co-host of the Holy Post podcast and curator of the "With God Daily" devotional, Skye reflects on his decades of ministry experience to offer a systemic lens for understanding where American Christianity is going—and what must change. Resources Mentioned: • With God Daily Devotional App – withgoddaily.com • Upcoming Book – "What If Jesus Was Serious?" (Moody Publishers) • The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com • Dallas Willard – Teacher and author of The Divine Conspiracy • John Walton's Old Testament scholarship • Genesis 1, The Sermon on the Mount, and Parable of the Wheat and Weeds – Explored in the context of a wisdom-driven view of Scripture Look forward to more conversations tackling the biggest questions about faith, culture, theology, and the mission of Jesus. Thanks for walking with us these 200 episodes! Help us keep the conversation going—subscribe, leave us a review, and follow our community online. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can the American church evolve to be more courageous, inclusive, and authentic in the decades to come? In the second installment of our Future Church Series, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford talk with longtime friends Kristen Howerton and Andy Lara about the current state of the church in America and what needs to change for it to thrive in the future. Kristen—a clinical psychologist, writer, and founder of "Rage Against the Minivan"—shares how motherhood, mental health, and social justice shaped her faith journey and her critique of modern evangelicalism. She opens up about the limits of aesthetic Christianity, the damage caused by politicized faith, and why she started Orange County's wildly popular Beer and Hymns gatherings as an inclusive alternative to traditional church. Andy, co-founder of the Vox Podcast and an experienced podcast and media producer, reflects on the rapidly evolving landscape of church communities born from decentralized platforms like podcasting, and how church models need to abandon image obsessions and redefine leadership, success, and storytelling to truly reflect the imago Dei. Key Takeaways: • Political Entanglement and Church Decline – Kristen critiques the evangelical church's alliance with political ideologies and how it's alienated the very people Jesus calls us to serve. • Inclusive Church Experiences – Why affirming, justice-centered, and spiritually rich spaces are critical to the future of the church's witness and survival. • Beer and Hymns as Sacred Resistance – Kristen details how a bar sing-along became a sacred space and blueprint for what post-church community could look like. • Revisiting the Power of Podcasting – Andy reflects on how podcast-centered communities like Vox offer a model for spiritual belonging in a digital-first world. • Image-Obsessed Christianity – How performative church culture, celebrity pastors, and aesthetic branding distort the gospel and marginalize real people. • The Gift of Exile – Why stepping outside of the traditional church model may be the path back to Jesus' true mission. Guest Highlights: Kristen Howerton — Psychologist, writer, and podcast host of "Selfie." Founder of "Rage Against the Minivan" and co-creator of Orange County's Beer and Hymns. Andy Lara — Vox Podcast co-founder, media producer, disability advocate, and creative consultant behind impactful digital church communities and podcasts. Resources Mentioned: • Selfie Podcast – selfiepodcast.com • Rage Against the Minivan – rageagainsttheminivan.com • Red Letter Christians – redletterchristians.org • Preachers in Sneakers – Instagram • "Beer and Hymns" National Chapters – [Google Search or local chapter pages] Join the movement of questioning, rediscovering, and reforming the church. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone curious about the future of faith. We'd love to hear from you with questions or comments—email [email protected] or find us on Instagram and Facebook. Check out our merch: ETSY Watch on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voxology Radio – Voxology on Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Music from Timothy John Stafford | IG & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the American church can face a rapidly changing culture by reclaiming its missionary identity, simplifying institutional models, and empowering the next generation of leaders. In this special edition kicking off a three-part mini-series for the 200th episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford revisit some of their favorite past guests to explore one timely question: What is the future of Christianity and the church in America? This episode features thought-provoking conversations with pastor and author Rick McKinley and biblical scholar Bonnie Lewis, offering contrasting perspectives from Portland to the greater deconstructed margins. Key Takeaways: • The Church as a Missionary Movement – Why American churches must stop existing for self-preservation and start embodying the mission of Jesus in a post-Christian culture. • Permission & Imagination – Gen X leaders must give way to innovative younger voices and support new forms of church that don't rely on traditional models of buildings, salaries, or Sunday-centric programs. • Reclaiming Deep Ecclesiology – The church isn't a preaching event or a building—it's a Spirit-filled alternative community of justice, simplicity, and love in a hostile world. • Preparing for Harvest and Hostility – Why the future belongs to churches that can thrive under cultural resistance and economic challenges, including the potential loss of tax-exempt status. • Thriving on the Margins – What Bonnie Lewis sees as the emerging future: diverse, justice-oriented, healing communities that move beyond white evangelicalism and toward a multi-voiced church. Guest Highlights: • Rick McKinley – Pastor of Imago Dei Church in Portland and author of "Faith for This Moment." Rick brings decades of pastoral insight and urges a drastic shift toward empowering bivocational leadership and simplifying church to spark real kingdom impact. • Bonnie Lewis – Bible translator and author who champions honest, inclusive conversations on faith and spirituality. Bonnie celebrates hopeful dialogue in a polarizing era and envisions the future church as more representative, just, and relationally safe. Resources Mentioned: • Faith for This Moment by Rick McKinley • Imago Dei Church – https://www.imagodeicommunity.com • The Vulgar Bible by Bonnie Lewis – https://www.bonnielewis.com/thevulgarbible • Episode 200 Series – Stay tuned for upcoming episodes featuring Kristen Howerton, Andy Lara, and Skye Jethani Have thoughts on the future of Christianity in America? We'd love to hear from you. Email your reflections to [email protected] or connect with us on social media. Don't miss what's next—subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology to stay rooted in the ongoing conversation. We're on YouTube if you're into that kinda thing: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Voxology Radio on Spotify: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Peeling back layers of modern Christianity's most pressing questions, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie journey into a spirited and vulnerable mailbag episode that challenges traditional assumptions around social justice, obedience, desire, and discipleship. Through listener questions and current events, the team engages in an honest—and often humorous—debate about what it really means to deny oneself, how cultural experience shapes theology, and why "just quoting a Bible verse" isn't often sufficient in addressing global and personal stories of oppression or pain. This episode particularly dives deep into the tension between desire and surrender, how systems of theology can unintentionally cause harm, and whether the church is meant to care solely for its own—or extend justice and mercy beyond its walls. Using voices from early Christian history to current church controversies, the Voxology crew explores messy, complicated—but vitally important—themes of love, privilege, repentance, justice, and formation. Key Takeaways: • The Limitations of "Sufficient Scripture" – Why relying solely on scripture without lived experience can ignore systems of privilege and harm, especially in conversations about social justice. • Is Denying Ourselves Always Righteous? – Discussion around "death to self" and how it's often misused to silence or suppress identity, particularly among the marginalized. • Desire, Identity & the LGBTQ+ Conversation – Exploring how not all desires are equal in cultural weight or consequence, especially for those whose desires are tied to aspects of identity that have been historically rejected by the church. • Justice Within and Beyond the Church – Why early Christians were radical for not just supporting their own poor, but also caring for their Roman neighbors—and what that means for the church today. • Weaponizing Obedience – How well-intentioned calls to faithfulness can often reinforce harmful systems, and the need to rethink the language we use around sin, sacrifice, and obedience in pastoral contexts. Resources Mentioned: • Rodney Stark – The Rise of Christianity • 1 Peter 2:12 – "Live such good lives among the pagans…" • Julian the Apostate's Letters – Historical evidence of Rome's reaction to Christian charity • Dallas Willard's Teachings – Especially regarding "joyful non-compliance" • John Coe (Talbot School of Theology) – On sin management and relational spirituality Join the conversation and help reshape Christian community for a more just and Christ-centered world. If you've ever wrestled with obedience, struggled with your desires, or questioned the church's response to injustice—this one is for you. Don't forget to email your questions to [email protected] or join us in the conversation on Facebook or Instagram. We're on YouTube! VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe and leave a 5-star review on iTunes or follow us on Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Why does questioning your beliefs sometimes feel like a risk? What if the fear of being punished by God for struggling with doubt or shifting perspectives isn't from God at all? Mike Erre reunites with preacher and Bible scholar Bonnie Lewis for a deep dive into the tensions we face when navigating grace, obedience, and identity in Jesus. Using stories from Scripture—like the woman with the alabaster jar and Zacchaeus—and their own vulnerable questions, they explore Jesus's radically inclusive posture and how it challenges both conservative and progressive assumptions about sin, justice, and what it means to repent. This conversation invites listeners into the beautiful but complicated reality that Jesus does more than simply include—he calls, renames, invites, and reorients. Together, they wrestle with questions of personal and communal repentance, whether God punishes us for doubt, and how Jesus's grace meets us before transformation but continually invites us into deeper maturity and freedom. Key Takeaways: • Jesus's Inclusivity Had a Purpose – His scandalous association with outcasts wasn't just for relational comfort; it was a powerful, theological act toward renewing Israel's vocation to embody God's love and justice. • Repentance Is Not Sin Management – Jesus's call to repentance isn't about obeying a moral checklist but reorienting our lives around grace, belonging, and God's deeper purposes for flourishing. • Grace Comes First, Always – Bonnie and Mike unpack how God blesses before we "get it right," yet still gently draws us towards a fuller experience of Shalom. • When Grace Feels Like Punishment – An honest discussion about internalized religious trauma, including Bonnie's story of grief after loss and wrestling with old beliefs around God's retribution. • The Danger of Mislabeling Repentance – Labeling people groups as needing to "repent" misplaces the call Jesus made—a communal restoration that points to healing, not exclusion. Guest Highlight: Bonnie Lewis – A longtime friend of Voxology and advocate for fresh, thoughtful theology, Bonnie brings years of scriptural study, teaching, and real-life vulnerability to this conversation. She challenges cultural-and-church assumptions with grace, humor, and authenticity. Resources Mentioned: • The Lost World of the Torah by John H. Walton – Link • Exclusion and Embrace by Miroslav Volf – Link • Dallas Willard and Grace-Filled Discipleship – Reflections on living into the "A" already given by God • Scripture References: Luke 7, Luke 19, Ephesians 4, Romans 12, The Gospels (broad skimming on Jesus's inclusivity and calls to repentance) Open-hearted, intellectually honest, and spiritually nourishing, this episode invites listeners to walk the tension between grace and transformation—and to stay curious about what Jesus is doing in the cracks between certainty and mystery. We'd love to hear what resonated with you! Join the conversation by emailing us at [email protected] or interacting on Facebook and Instagram. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs a fresh take on Jesus's grace. We're also on YouTube! Check out VOXOLOGY TV Shop Voxology merch & support the show: ETSY Learn more and explore past episodes at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support future conversations on Patreon Follow us: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Voxology Podcast Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A raw and honest reflection for those who feel caught between theological tribes, yearning for a deeper, more authentic faith. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford launch a new conversational series responding to what it means to feel spiritually homeless in today's polarized Christian landscape. With candid vulnerability, they explore disillusionment with both progressive and conservative church cultures, and ask: Is it possible to center on Jesus without selling out to one side? This isn't cleaned-up theology with neatly drawn boundaries—it's a space of wandering, questioning, and rebuilding. If you're exhausted by toxic church politics, doctrinal quarrels on social media, and weaponized theology, this episode offers a breath of fresh (and sometimes messy) air. Key Takeaways: • Feeling Spiritually Homeless – How social media and church rhetoric are creating deep disillusionment for believers who don't fully align with conservative or progressive categories. • Christianity Without a Tribe – Naming the middle space between polarized camps and asking what it looks like to pursue Jesus without a political or doctrinal allegiance. • Weaponized Theology – The hosts critique how theology is used more to divide and condemn than to heal and restore, particularly around issues like female leadership and LGBTQ+ inclusion. • Both/And Faith – Mike reflects on the tension of holding both conservative and progressive convictions about sin, grace, masculinity, sexuality, and the authority of the Bible. • Radical Inclusion and Subversive Exclusivity – Looking to the early Church for a model that embraced all people while challenging societal norms and oppressive empires. Resources Mentioned: • Acts of the Apostles – Early Church as a model for inclusion and radical discipleship • Voxology Podcast Episode #61 – "Stages of Spiritual Maturity" (referenced as foundational to this conversation) • "Resident Aliens" by Hauerwas & Willimon – Reference for Christian community as an alternative to culture Join the movement toward being a home for the spiritually homeless. This episode is the start of a powerful new arc centering on Jesus—his life, teachings, and what it means to follow him in our complex world. Help shape the community by sending your thoughts, questions, and experiences to [email protected]. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite podcast platform and social spaces. You can also watch us on VOXOLOGY TV, grab some merch at our Etsy store, or support us on Patreon. Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter at @mikeerre Original music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we navigate a term so widely misunderstood it often creates barriers instead of bridges? Mike Erre and Tim Stafford tackle this multi-layered question with humor, honesty, and depth in a lively conversation about whether we should keep or discard the term "Christian"—and what's truly at the center of the Jesus movement. This episode opens with a heartfelt apology to a listener for accidentally spoiling a blockbuster movie (Endgame, anyone?), then dives headfirst into a candid discussion sparked by a listener letter questioning whether the cultural baggage of the word "Christian" makes it worth abandoning entirely. Along the way, Mike and Tim explore the usefulness (or futility) of labels, the profound difference between identifying as "Christian" versus "follower of Jesus," and why our language must reflect our mission when engaging others inside and outside the church. They also take on listener feedback about gatekeeping, biblical double standards, and how to face the complexity of Scripture without despairing. Key Takeaways: • Defining What's Central – Why focusing on "Christianity" as a label often distracts from the centrality of Jesus and his movement. • The Baggage of the Word "Christian" – How culture, politics, and consumerism have distorted its meaning, and why that might be worth letting go. • Double Standards and Interpretive Humility – Reflecting on whether we place unequal weight on reinterpreting scripture in areas of sex and science. • Reading the Bible Without Overwhelm – Practical guidance for anyone feeling unqualified or confused about their ability to engage meaningful biblical study. • Love Over Labels – Why embodying love trumps right belief when our expression of faith shapes how others understand Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • BibleProject – https://bibleproject.com • N.T. Wright's "For Everyone" series – N.T. Wright Books • Craig Keener's Bible Background Commentary – Zondervan Academic Call to Action: Join the conversation and share your thoughts on what it means to follow Jesus today. Subscribe for more episodes, leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we journey forward. Send your questions and feedback to [email protected] and connect on Facebook and Instagram. We're also on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Grab some Voxology gear at our Etsy Store Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe here: • Apple Podcasts • Spotify Support the show on Patreon Curated playlists and conversations: Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Voxology Podcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Original music by Timothy John Stafford Insta & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Can you still call it Christianity if you don't believe Jesus physically rose from the dead? This episode of the Exile Series tackles one of the most crucial and controversial questions facing the church today: what still counts as "Christian" when key beliefs are dismantled? Mike and Tim unpack an explosive New York Times interview with Union Seminary President Serene Jones, who claims one can believe in resurrection without believing that Jesus physically rose. This kicks off a deep dive into gatekeeping, core doctrine, theological mystery, and where—if anywhere—we draw lines. They explore Paul's declaration of "first importance" in 1 Corinthians 15, the implications of a metaphorical resurrection, and the struggle to balance love, inclusion, and truth without erasing the essence of Jesus's identity and mission. Whether you're rebuilding your faith, deconstructing from harmful religious narratives, or curious about where theological boundaries should lie, this conversation offers honesty, nuance, and plenty of wrestling room. Key Takeaways: • What If Jesus Didn't Physically Rise? – The implications of denying the bodily resurrection while holding onto Christian identity. • Gatekeeping & Grace – When it's necessary to define boundaries, what we're protecting, and how we do it without creating elitism or exclusion. • A Centered-Set Faith – Why Mike and Tim believe in moving toward Jesus as the identifiable center rather than drawing rigid lines around secondary beliefs. • The Resurrection as the Defining Claim – How Paul's first-century view in 1 Corinthians 15 re-centers the core of the gospel—and why it's still relevant. • Belief, Language, and Labels – Why self-identifying as "Christian" may not mean what we think it does if we remove its historical and theological basis. Resources Mentioned: • 1 Corinthians 15 – Paul's statement on the gospel of first importance • Interview with Serene Jones – New York Times opinion by Nicholas Kristof • Set Theory & Centered-Set Church Model – Learn more about centered vs. bounded faith [episode link] • Voxology Facebook Group – Join the conversation and share your thoughts on gatekeeping and resurrection Join us as we dive deep into reconstructing faith with honesty, clarity, and compassion. Got thoughts or pushback? We welcome your questions via email and encourage you to engage with us online. Email us: [email protected] Join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Watch us on VOXOLOGY TV. Grab some sweet merch on Etsy. Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the work on Patreon Tune into our curated audio experience on Voxology Radio on Spotify Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Take a moment to subscribe, leave a review, and help more people ask better questions on their spiritual journey. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Christians seriously engage with science, sexuality, and the violence in the scriptures while remaining faithful to the authority of the Bible? In this insightful and honest conversation, Mike Erre is joined by Old Testament scholar Tremper Longman III to discuss the hermeneutical frameworks required to address some of Christianity's most pressing—and often divisive—topics. Drawing from his new book, Confronting Old Testament Controversies, Tremper unpacks the complexities of evolution, interpretation, LGBTQ+ inclusion, biblical violence, and how the ancient text still speaks to our modern context. This episode is both an academic and pastoral invitation to wrestle openly and faithfully with the Bible's hardest questions. Key Takeaways: • Scripture and Hermeneutics Matter Deeply – Misusing or misunderstanding the Old Testament through poor hermeneutics has led to destructive interpretations, from colonialism to political idolatry. • Why the Old Testament Still Matters – Tremper explains why dismissing the Old Testament creates theological gaps and ends up distorting the portrait of God found in the New Testament. • Is the Bible Anti-Science? – A deep dive into how Genesis was never meant to teach science and why a theologically responsible reading of evolution can affirm God's creative providence. • Violence in the Bible Isn't a Problem to Erase – Tremper critiques both conservative and progressive attempts to soften or explain away divine violence, and instead frames it as essential to God's battle against evil. • Sexuality and the Limits of Interpretation – Why Tremper argues that reinterpreting biblical texts on same-sex relationships departs from historical consensus, and how love and truth must work together. • Living in the Tension of Phase Four – Tremper outlines his "five-phase model" of God's warrior motif, highlighting how the church today lives in a nonviolent, spiritual resistance aligned with Christ's first coming while awaiting the final victory described in Revelation. Guest Highlights: Tremper Longman III – Renowned Old Testament scholar, retired professor at Westmont College, and author of over 30 books. His latest work, Confronting Old Testament Controversies, challenges believers to tackle real issues with theological conviction, historical awareness, and spiritual humility. Resources Mentioned: • Confronting Old Testament Controversies by Tremper Longman III – Amazon • The BioLogos Foundation – biologos.org • Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy – [Link] • "God Is a Warrior" by Tremper Longman III and Daniel G. Reid – [Link] • Greg Boyd's "The Crucifixion of the Warrior God" – [Link] • Tim Keller on Politics and the Church – [Link] • Miroslav Volf Quote from Free of Charge – [Link] Ready to dig beneath the surface and question with courage? Subscribe to Voxology and join us as we reclaim the beauty and challenge of following Jesus in a complicated world. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue truth together. Email us your questions at [email protected], and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Catch full episodes on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Grab some podcast merch: ETSY Store Learn more: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast "Like" us on Facebook: Facebook Page Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover how gay Christians committed to a traditional biblical sexual ethic are faithfully navigating identity, theology, celibacy, and spiritual friendship in Part 2 of the Revoice series. Mike Erre speaks with Dr. Johanna Finnegan—MIT PhD, philosopher, and follower of Jesus—whose journey of faith, sexuality, and discipleship offers a deeply personal and thought-provoking perspective. Johanna's story unfolds with raw honesty, intellectual rigor, and unwavering commitment to living a life shaped by Christ. In this powerful and deeply reflective episode, Johanna shares how she came to faith in Jesus after growing up in a largely secular household, how being gay shaped her youth and adulthood, and what it means to submit her sexuality to Christ while finding joy, meaning, and even romantic love in ways that defy simple categories. Key Takeaways: • Facing the Tension Between Faith and Sexuality – Johanna discusses discovering she was gay at a young age and how that reality collided with traditional Christian teachings, leading to deep depression and eventual spiritual awakening. • Encountering Authentic Discipleship – Her transformation was fueled by the love, witness, and persistence of Jesus-following friends who embodied both grace and truth. • Reframing the Goal – Why orientation change isn't the aim of the Christian life; Christlikeness is. • Gay and Celibate, Yet Flourishing – Johanna unpacks the hard but life-giving reality of choosing celibacy, the "better treasure" of following Jesus, and how friendship and community became essential spiritual lifelines. • Marriage, Mystery, and Surrender – The unexpected love story that unfolded with her husband, Tim, showing that obedience doesn't always mean perpetual loneliness or a denial of God's goodness. • Responding to Conservative and Progressive Critics – Why language like "gay Christian" need not threaten biblical fidelity, and how faithful celibacy is often misunderstood from both ends of the spectrum. • Why Revoice Matters – Understanding the emergence of the spiritual friendship and Revoice movements as third-way communities that affirm traditional Christian teaching while offering love, visibility, and hope to LGBTQ+ believers. Guest Highlight: Johanna Finnegan – PhD in Philosophy (MIT), co-laborer with the Revoice and Spiritual Friendship movements, and a compelling voice speaking courageously about the lived experience of gay Christians pursuing holiness, community, and authenticity. Resources Mentioned: • Revoice Conference – revoice.us • Philip Yancey – Disappointment with God • Wesley Hill – Washed and Waiting • Bridges Across the Divide (dialogue project) • Johanna's website – johannafinnegan.com Join the growing community of listeners wrestling with how to faithfully embody the mission of Jesus in complex and often misunderstood spaces. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave us a review, and follow us on social media to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store: ETSY. Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support on Patreon Spotify Music Channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Why the modern megachurch model is failing—and what should rise in its place. Mike Erre and Tim Stafford tackle one of their most candid, raw conversations yet around the toxicity of platform-centric Christianity, the pitfalls of megachurch culture, and the tension between organizational leadership and spiritual shepherding. Drawing from personal experience, listener questions, and real-world examples, they explore the deep systemic issues that plague celebrity-driven church models, while proposing a more biblical and communal way forward. They also introduce Malaika Sisay, a third-year student at The Ohio State University, whose powerful story of growing up at the intersection of a Muslim household, a white evangelical school, and a Black Pentecostal church sheds new light on how we must reimagine diversity and inclusion in Christian spaces. Key Takeaways: • The Megachurch Crisis – Why celebrity pastors, organizational culture, and brand obsession are hurting the church's mission and credibility. • Leadership vs. Shepherding – The danger of confusing business success metrics with spiritual leadership and care. • Platform as Poison – Why platform-centered ministry easily breeds narcissism, exclusion, and spiritual burnout. • Embracing Multiplicity – The biblical imperative to elevate and empower other voices and avoid single-leader charisma traps. • Honest Reflections – Mike and Tim share their own experiences with being both the threatened and the threat within large church structures, and how their views have evolved. • The Power of Presence, Not Performance – Encouraging a return to worship that's Spirit-led rather than emotionally manipulative or production-driven. Guest Highlight: Malaika Sisay – A student from OSU with a deeply impactful story of navigating cultural, religious, and racial dynamics as the daughter of Muslim immigrants. Malaika reflects on growing up attending a conservative white Christian school, a West African Pentecostal church, and a mosque—sharing powerful lessons on identity, belonging, and the diverse witness of Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • 1 Corinthians – Paul's rebuke of personality cults in the early church. • Alan Hirsch – Missional church advocate who challenges attractional models of ministry. • Dallas Willard – Teachings on joyful non-compliance and spiritual disciplines. • Tony Campolo – Stories of obedience and finding God in simple faithfulness. • Podcast with Malaika Sisay – Follow her on Instagram @malaikasesay Explore with us how we can rediscover the church's truest calling—equipping people to be Jesus in the world, not just attend a show. Let us know your thoughts and continue the dialogue! Email us at [email protected] and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Watch full episodes on VOXOLOGY TV Grab some gear from our Merch Store Learn more, subscribe, and support Voxology at: • VoxologyPodcast.com • iTunes • Spotify • Patreon • Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy