Voxology

What happens when criticism becomes a regular part of your personal, professional, or spiritual journey? Mike Erre shares raw, hilarious, and honest insights from years of being on the receiving end of all types of feedback—from drive-by insults to thoughtful, transformative critiques. Whether it's angry emails, anonymous letters, vague threats cloaked in "concern," or painfully awkward encounters, Mike breaks down the different types of criticism and how to respond with wisdom, humility, and strength. This solo episode offers a practical and candid framework for examining feedback, gauging its value, and protecting your mental and emotional health in the process. Learn how to be a non-reactive presence, why not every critic deserves a response, and how criticism—when rightly received—can be a gift that cultivates deep growth. Key Takeaways: • "Who is this from?" – Why discerning the source of criticism is the first essential filter. • Specific vs. General Feedback – How to recognize the difference and why specificity leads to growth. • Responding with Non-Reactivity – Strategies to avoid anger, appeasement, or over-explaining when criticized. • The Power of Trusted Voices – Why you should surround yourself with safe, truth-telling people before the noise starts. • The Role of Humor and Boundaries – How levity and clear lines keep criticism from becoming toxic. Resources Mentioned: • Emotionally Healthy Church by Pete Scazzero – on being a nonreactive presence • Kenton Beshore (former pastor at Mariners Church) – influential feedback conversation • Patreon Support for Vox – https://www.patreon.com/voxology Call to Action: Got feedback of your own? Mike says—bring it on (within reason)! Let us know what resonates with you or what you've learned about handling critique in your own life. And as always, subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to stay part of the growing conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast https://voxologypodcast.com/ Subscribe on iTunes https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj or Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/voxology The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com/ Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the misunderstood "wives submit to your husbands" passage in Ephesians 5 unlocks a transformative and egalitarian vision of marriage rooted in mutual submission, sacrifice, and love. Mike Erre and Andy dive deep into the cultural, linguistic, and biblical context of this controversial scripture as they launch a new series, "Embarrassed by the Bible"—tackling tough and awkward verses that have long caused confusion and damage within Christian spaces. Key Takeaways: • Mutual Submission as the Heart of Discipleship – The verse "submit to one another out of reverence for Christ" is the foundation, not an add-on. Spirit-filled relationships begin with mutual surrender, not hierarchy. • Reframing Ephesians 5 – Understanding how Greek grammar links verses 21 and 22 shows "wives submit" is part of broader mutual submission, not a blanket endorsement of male dominance. • How Culture Shapes Misreading – Paul worked within patriarchal Greco-Roman household codes not to affirm them, but to subvert them by planting gospel-centered seeds of equality and sacrificial love. • Redefining "Headship" – Being the "head" doesn't mean control or final say; it means sacrificial love modeled on Christ's love for the church—being the first to serve, forgive, and selflessly uplift the other. • Marriage as Gospel Embodiment – Christian marriage isn't about rigid gender roles, it's about embodying the love, humility, and mutual care of Christ and the church. Resources Mentioned: • Ephesians 5:21–33 – Bible Gateway • Genesis 1–3 – The biblical foundation of male/female equality before the Fall • Past Episode – "Household Codes and Subversion of Power" (playlist coming soon) • Interlinear Bible Tool – biblehub.com/interlinear Join the "Embarrassed by the Bible" series as we uncover how scripture, when properly understood, reveals the revolutionary heart of Jesus. Have a verse that confuses or embarrasses you? Email us at [email protected] to share your questions. Subscribe, leave us a review, and follow the conversation on social media to keep this dialogue alive! We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Merch: Etsy Store Discover more at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the podcast on Patreon Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Connect on Facebook: Voxology Podcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford | IG & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Explore the tensions between faith, doubt, and tradition in the debut episode of the "Embarrassed by the Bible" series. Mike Erre and Andy Lara tackle tough theological questions sent in by listeners—from Rob Bell's legacy to the plausibility of Noah's Ark, and how modern sensibilities often clash with ancient texts. This candid conversation highlights the complexity of scripture and encourages thoughtful, humble engagement with controversial issues. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Rob Bell's Theological Journey – Mike shares personal interactions and the importance of discernment when exploring provocative voices in the church. • Embracing Difficult Texts – The Voxology team kicks off a new series exploring challenging and often misunderstood parts of the Bible, beginning with the story of Noah and the Ark. • Seeking Truth Over Certainty – A reminder that even the most respected theologians and teachers are human, and spiritual growth comes through wrestling with ideas, not blindly accepting them. • Investigating Eternal Judgment – Breaking down Matthew 18:8 and the concept of eternal fire—does hell mean eternal torture or eternal consequence? • Faith, Offense, and Interpretation – Discussing how modern Christian culture often avoids offense at the cost of nuance, and why honest engagement with scripture matters more than presenting sanitized theology. Resources Mentioned: • "Rethinking Hell" – [Link] • "Four Views on Hell" (edited by Preston Sprinkle) – [Link] • Matthew 18:8 – [Link] • Psalm 37 – [Link] Join us as we navigate the tensions of faith, doubt, and scripture together—and don't miss upcoming episodes in this exciting new series! Subscribe, leave a review, and connect with us on social media to keep the conversation going. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV → https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! → https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast → https://voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on: → iTunes → Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon → https://www.patreon.com/voxology The Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio → https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can we move beyond deconstruction and actually begin to rebuild a meaningful, Jesus-centered faith? In this special crossover episode, Mike Erre and Andy interview theologian and podcast host Dan Koch for a rich, honest exchange on spiritual reconstruction, Eucharist-centered community, and how to foster real unity in an age of division. Both Dan and the Vox team reflect on their mutual journeys of disillusionment with traditional evangelicalism and explore what it looks like to reconstruct thoughtful, inclusive expressions of faith that hold space for complexity, difference, and depth. This episode unpacks some of the most important questions for Christians today: What should the church really look like? How do we offer a seat at the table for affirming and non-affirming Christians alike? And how the Eucharist might be the best shot we have at unity in the midst of polarized conversations about politics, sexuality, and theology. Key Takeaways: • From Bad Christian to Reconstruction – Dan Koch shares how his time with the Bad Christian podcast and the Liturgists fueled a desire to move into a constructive theological space, leading him to launch Depolarize and Reconstruct podcasts. • Reconstructing Faith after Deconstruction – Why the journey from questioning to rebuilding is necessary for long-term spiritual health, and how Eucharist plays a pivotal role in anchoring that process. • Making Room in the Church Without Taking Sides – The Vox team unpacks why they refuse to label their church as "affirming" or "non-affirming," and how they're cultivating a community where LGBTQ+ and non-LGBTQ+ Christians share communion and service. • The Role of the Table in Human Identity – Exploring how the practice of regular communion invites us to form our identity around Christ, not preferences, politics, or lifestyle. • Politics, Identity, and Jesus – A candid discussion on white evangelical support for Trump, why political ideology often overrides kingdom values, and how to reclaim Jesus as the center of our Christian identity. • Invitation over Condemnation – Reimagining the church as a "well" that draws people in with Jesus rather than a fenced-in space defined by who's in and who's out. Guest Highlights: Dan Koch – Host of the Depolarize and Reconstruct podcasts, Dan is known for his engaging conversations around difficult theological and political issues. A former member of the band Sherwood and veteran of the Bad Christian podcast world, Dan brings experience, humility, and intelligence to the space between doubt and belief. Resources Mentioned: • Reconstruct Podcast – reconstructpodcast.com • Depolarize Podcast – depolarizepodcast.com • Anthony Bloom – Beginning to Pray • Michael Ware Interview – Search past Vox Podcast episodes • Pacific Gold Band – pacificgoldband.com • Karl Rahner and Edward Schillebeeckx – Catholic theologians influencing Dan's thought on sacraments and faith reconstruction Find deeper hope beyond deconstruction and be inspired to reimagine church as a space of humility, dialogue, and table-centered belonging. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on social media for more conversations that matter. We welcome your questions and feedback—email us at [email protected] or join the discussion on Instagram and Facebook. Want more? Check out: • VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube • Voxology Merch Store • Support us on Patreon • Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify • Follow Mike on Twitter • Music by Timothy John Stafford (@gonetimothy) Stay connected. Stay curious. Stay rooted in Jesus. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Wrestling with how faith affects your prayers? Wondering if it's un-Christian to cut off toxic relationships? Curious where Paul fits into the twelve apostles? In this thoughtful Q&A episode, Mike and Andy dig into some tough but deeply relatable questions from the Voxology community. This episode offers perspective-shifting responses to common theological misconceptions, helping listeners navigate spiritual anxiety, relational boundaries, and what faith actually means in the way of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Apostleship – Clarifying the difference between "the Twelve" and broader New Testament uses of the term "apostle," including Paul and even a female apostle. • Faith and Prayer, Reconsidered – Why the phrase "your faith unlocks God's blessings" can be harmful, and how faith, properly understood, is more about covenantal allegiance than psychological certainty. • Boundaries and Spiritual Guilt – Exploring how Christians can approach toxic relationships with both grace and wisdom, while evaluating spiritual guilt that may stem from bad theology rather than the Holy Spirit. Resources Mentioned: • Jesus's Teachings on Faith – Gospel references to mustard seed faith and community alignment. • Andy Stanley's Pastoral Advice – "Do for one what you wish you could do for all." • Melchizedek – Genesis 14 and Hebrews 7 for more on this mysterious biblical figure. Have a question you're wrestling with? Email [email protected]—Mike and Tim would love to hear from you. And don't forget to check out the Vox Community Podcast for even more rich conversation. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue deeper understanding together. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV – https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! – https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast – https://voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes – https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Subscribe on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support Voxology on Patreon – https://www.patreon.com/voxology Listen to the Voxology Spotify channel – Voxology Radio – https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can reading the Bible form us into people who actually look, sound, and live more like Jesus? This episode dives into that powerful question through raw honesty, theological reflection, and practical insights. Mike Erre processes a deeply personal season of anxiety, health struggles, and spiritual battle—and unpacks how Scripture, when engaged relationally instead of merely intellectually, can be a tool of deep transformation. Recorded after a teaching event with John Mark Comer and Todd Proctor on the practices of Jesus, Mike explores why many of us don't feel spiritually transformed despite decades of Christian practice, and what it means to read the Bible as a relational and covenantal tool that fosters intimacy and "abiding" with Christ. Rather than reading the Bible to "be right" or gather rules, we are invited to read it because we're already in relationship with Jesus and want to become like Him. Key Takeaways: • Reading the Bible Relationally – How Scripture becomes a tool for formation when we read it as part of a covenantal relationship with God, rather than a rulebook or doctrinal manual. • Jesus as the Box Top – Why Jesus is the ultimate revelation of God and how our interpretation of all Scripture must be filtered through His life, death, and resurrection. • Transformation Through Attachment – Abiding in Jesus is about relationship, not performance—spiritual growth happens not through formulas or behavior modification, but through intimacy. • Why Many Christians Feel Unchanged – A critique of "trying harder," program-based growth, and information overload as false answers to the gap between who we are and who we want to become. • Living the Story Like Jesus – Understanding the Bible as a unified story we are invited to inhabit—not simply observe or quote—with the goal of embodying Christ. Resources Mentioned: • Vanguard University – vanguard.edu • John Mark Comer – Practicing the Way – practicingtheway.org • Tim Mackie – The Bible Project – bibleproject.com • Hebrews and Galatians – Themes of covenant, transformation, and the new humanity through Jesus Join the Vox community as we lean into curiosity, wrestle with the hard questions, and rediscover the beauty of what it means to follow Jesus in a deeply Jesus-looking way—honest, raw, and full of grace. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social to continue the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Deep questions demand deep exploration, and this episode of Voxology tackles some of the biggest theological and cultural questions facing the modern church. Mike Erre and Andy field four thought-provoking listener questions—each one diving into misunderstood spiritual frameworks and their real-world implications on faith, marriage, evil, and Scripture. We begin by reexamining the foundations of our faith, contrasting the gospel of Jesus with how we've inherited Paul's theology through Western lenses like the Reformation. From there, we wrestle with the controversial language of submission in marriage in Ephesians 5, the nature of evil and why God hasn't destroyed Satan, and finally, the mysterious process of biblical canonization and why some gospels didn't make the cut. Whether you're deconstructing, reconstructing, or just curious, this conversation offers a thoughtful roadmap back to the heart of Jesus's mission. Key Takeaways: • Reframing Faith Around Jesus – Why starting with the gospel of Jesus—not Paul—can lead to a more holistic and life-oriented faith. • Revisiting Ephesians 5 – A deeper look at mutual submission in marriage, the radical call to sacrificial love, and misinterpretations that fuel patriarchy. • The Problem of Evil and Human Freedom – Why God allows free will, even for Satan, and how it points to a grander divine project of human sanctification and cosmic governance. • How the Bible Was Formed – The overlooked process of canonization, community validation, apostolic authorship, and why texts like the Gospel of Thomas were excluded. Resources Mentioned: • BibleProject (with Tim Mackie) – https://bibleproject.com • Ephesians 5:21-33 – Mutual submission and Christlike love • "Romans Road" – A traditional evangelistic outline using verses from Romans • Tim Mackie's website – https://timmackie.com (for Bible canon resources) Let's keep asking hard questions and re-centering on Jesus's life, message, and mission. Subscribe to the show, leave a review, and find us on your favorite podcast platform and social media for more dialogue around faith that matters. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: https://voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj or on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/voxology The Voxology Spotify music channel: https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How a deeper look at scripture, church culture, and the example of Jesus challenges traditional views of women in ministry positions. Mike Erre and Andy break down decades of theology, cultural biases, and inherited assumptions to explore the truth behind women's roles in Christian leadership—and what might be more faithful to the vision of Jesus. Drawing from Genesis, Paul's letters, and the trajectory of redemption throughout the Bible, this episode offers a powerful case for inclusion. Whether you're complementarian, egalitarian, or just curious, this honest and thoughtful conversation invites listeners into a deeper understanding of authority, gender, and gospel mission in the 21st-century church. Key Takeaways: • Biblical Interpretation Anchors – Six core theological filters—including creation, eschatology, and Jesus' actions—guide how to discern scripture's intent and application. • Jesus on Women – From discipleship to resurrection witnesses, Jesus consistently elevated and empowered women as full participants in the mission of God. • The Cultural vs. Scriptural Divide – Many church restrictions on women are deeply cultural, not biblically grounded, and often inconsistent or harmful. • Complementarianism's Double Standards – Mike and Andy unpack the theological contradictions and practical absurdities of restrictive models. • Redemptive Trajectory of Scripture – From Genesis to Revelation, the arc of the Bible points toward restored equality and shared leadership in the Spirit. Resources Mentioned: • Craig Keener, N.T. Wright, Gordon Fee – Noted biblical scholars with perspectives on women in the church. • William Webb – "Slaves, Women, and Homosexuals" • Genesis 1-3 and Galatians 3:28 • Vox Community Teachers: Megan Fate Marshman, Carrie Garcia, Bonnie Lewis • Facebook hashtag thread: "Things Only Christian Women Hear" • Letter to Philemon – Paul's radical approach to slavery and equality in Christ Join the Voxology community in rethinking deeply held assumptions and imagining a church that reflects the inclusive heart of Jesus. Let your voice be heard—send your feedback, critiques, or questions to [email protected] or connect with us on Instagram and Facebook. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review wherever you listen. YouTube (for your eyeballs): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store on Etsy: VOXOLOGY Support the podcast: Patreon Listen and subscribe: iTunes | Spotify Music by Timothy John Stafford Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Instagram: @voxologypodcast | Facebook: Voxology Podcast Let's live out the mission of Jesus—together. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Tackling real questions from the Vox Community and beyond, Mike Erre and Andy kick off the new Q&A Series with honest, heartfelt, and sometimes humorous reflections on key topics at the intersection of faith, culture, and Christian life. From the Sabbath to science, to the tension between free will and predestination, the duo models what it looks like to wrestle through complex theological questions with curiosity and compassion. Key Takeaways: • Keeping the Sabbath in Today's World – Why Sabbath is a wisdom practice, not a covenantal requirement, and how Jesus reinterprets the law through love and rest. • Science vs. Essential Oils – Exploring the relationship between faith and science, Christian skepticism toward scientific institutions, and why curiosity and discernment matter. • Free Will and God's Sovereignty – Unpacking the difference between God's corporate predestination and personal agency, and why God is not the author of evil or suffering. • Singleness and God's Compassion – Navigating the desire for marriage with grace, wisdom, and trust, while staying rooted in community and purpose. Resources Mentioned: • Previous Voxology Episodes: "Does God Cause Suffering?" – [Link to episode] "Understanding the Law and the Sabbath" on Facebook – [Link if available] Join us in rethinking what it means to faithfully follow Jesus in modern life—ask big questions, seek better answers, and laugh along the way. Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and follow the show wherever you listen to podcasts. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Discover why so many are rethinking their faith and how deconstruction can actually catalyze a deeper, more authentic walk with Jesus. Recorded live with audience participation, this episode captures powerful personal stories of disorientation, doubt, and rediscovery. Mike Erre and Andy unpack the rise of Christian deconstruction, challenge the pitfalls of "faith-as-performance," and advocate for a reconstructive faith centered on the radical way of Jesus, not religious systems. Whether you're post-evangelical, spiritually curious, or navigating your own crisis of faith, this conversation holds space for pain, honesty, humor, and hope. Key Takeaways: • Deconstructing the Faith – Why more Christians are walking away from inherited religious systems while seeking a more truthful, lived-out spirituality. • Stages of Faith – Exploring concepts like spiritual orientation, disorientation, and reorientation through frameworks from Brueggemann and Fowler. • The Normalcy of Doubt – Why skepticism, grief, and disillusionment are not spiritual failures but invitations to deeper transformation. • Following Jesus vs. Following a System – How a Paul-centered gospel often replaces a Jesus-centered way of life, and why that distinction matters. • Why Reconstruction Matters – The power of rebuilding a durable, honest faith after deconstruction, rooted in the person of Jesus rather than tradition or certainty. • Audience Stories – Live testimonies of deconstructing journeys—from confronting toxic evangelical cliches to having a loved one come out, losing a spouse, struggling with infertility, or simply encountering a more human Jesus. Guest Highlights: This episode features live participation from audience members who courageously shared moments that sparked their personal faith deconstruction and, for many, the beginning of reorientation toward Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • Stages of Faith by James Fowler • Walter Brueggemann's framework of Orientation / Disorientation / Reorientation (as seen in the Psalms) • Real Time with Bill Maher – Discussion surrounding Christian public image and its portrayal • Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John – Emphasis on grounding and reconstructing faith in the Gospels • The Vox Podcast – Previous episodes addressing church hurt, LGBTQ+ inclusion, and systemic critiques Call to Action: Help us continue creating space for honest conversations about Jesus, doubt, and identity. Subscribe to Voxology, leave a review, and follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Share your own story by emailing us at [email protected]. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more at: voxologypodcast.com Support us via Patreon Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify The Voxology Spotify Channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast "Like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the pursuit of power in the American church undermines its true mission—and how returning to the way of the Lamb transforms our communities, leadership models, and personal discipleship. Mike Erre and guest co-host Andy Bear are joined by authors and leaders Kyle Strobel and Jamin Goggin to unpack themes from their book, The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb. In this deep and often hilarious conversation, they explore how modern Christianity has embraced worldly power, how we can relearn the power of weakness, and what it means to follow Jesus' subversive model of leadership. From seminaries to mega-churches, preaching to hair highlights, the crew examines how power, charisma, and platform have overtaken humility, community, and spiritual disciplines—leaving us spiritually malnourished but numerically impressive. What does real maturity, real spiritual authority, and real fruit look like? And how do we build churches that form Christlike disciples instead of celebrity pastors? Key Takeaways: • Power from Below vs. Power from Above – Exploring the biblical distinction between worldly ambition and Christlike leadership, drawing from James 3 and Revelation's imagery of the dragon and the lamb. • How the Church Mimics Culture – From influencer-minded platforms to stage-driven services, we've too often baptized secular strategies instead of embodying alternative kingdom values. • Spiritual Practices Recenter Power – Communion, confession, and community are not optional; they are tangible expressions of dependence and reminders of grace, crucial for counter-forming us from self-reliance. • Weakness as the Path to Trustworthy Power – God meets us in our weakness not to leave us there, but to empower us to lead and love from a deeper place of transformation. • Redefining Mission – What if instead of going to "fix" others, mission was about mutuality, embodied love, and learning from those the world marginalizes? Guest Highlights: Kyle Strobel – Professor of Spiritual Theology at Biola University and systematic theologian with deep expertise in Jonathan Edwards. Kyle unpacks how the church's theological integrity is compromised when it defaults to power-grabbing and performance. Jamin Goggin – Longtime pastor currently serving in San Marcos, CA, Jamin shares authentically about the challenges of leading differently, seeking relationships with those unimpressed by pastoral authority, and creating space for genuine friendship and accountability. Resources Mentioned: • The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb by Jamin Goggin and Kyle Strobel – Amazon • James 3 – Teaching on two kinds of wisdom and the roots of demonic power (selfish ambition and envy) • John 15 – Jesus' call to abide and the paradoxical fruitfulness of weakness • Eugene Peterson, Dallas Willard, Jean Vanier, John Perkins – Key spiritual leaders explored in their book • The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard • Second Corinthians – Where Paul boasts only in his weakness • Harry Potter (!) – A surprisingly robust metaphor for Christlike power rooted in love, not dominance Join the Conversation: This episode is a call to detox from the worldly ways we've accepted as normal and rediscover Jesus' life-giving model of power through love. We'd love to hear your thoughts—email us at [email protected] or engage with the community on social media. Subscribe to Voxology wherever you listen and leave a rating or review to help others find the show. We're also on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Shop our merch: Etsy Store Support us on Patreon: Join the Community Discover more at: voxologypodcast.com Follow us: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does the New Testament reframe the concept of tithing? Is lust really equal to adultery? Can "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John" really be ancient Jewish names? In this family-style Q&A edition, Mike Erre and Andy dive into light-hearted and deeply theological listener questions to explore how Jesus expands and redefines Old Testament laws through the Sermon on the Mount, why generosity goes beyond a flat 10%, and the power of understanding scripture in its original context. Key Takeaways: • Rethinking Tithing in a New Testament Context – Why the 10% rule isn't a mandate and how the Bible calls for radical generosity from the heart. • Jesus and the Heart of the Law – Understanding how the Sermon on the Mount intensifies the moral seriousness of actions by focusing on internal transformation rather than just external behavior. • Beyond the Meme – Addressing how names like Matthew and John came to be associated with Middle Eastern figures and the impact of translation and cultural adaptation in scripture. • Generosity vs Obligation – Exploring how giving can be a response to love and purpose, not guilt or obligation, and why supporting the church isn't the only way to honor God with your money. Resources Mentioned: • Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5–7 • Acts & 2 Corinthians – Paul's teachings on giving • Organizations for Generosity: World Vision, Compassion International, Charity: Water • Voxology Podcast Homepage – https://voxologypodcast.com/ • Voxology on Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Join the ongoing conversation and send in your questions anytime—we love hearing from you as we all pursue Jesus together. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media to be part of the community. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store! https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Subscribe on iTunes https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj or on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/voxology The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: https://open.spotify.com/user/nj2l08pd1zt6zk3azs1plhmdy?si=3fb86269da0449ed Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast "Like" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com/ Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does someone faithfully follow Jesus while working at the highest levels of American government? Mike Erre and Andy sit down with Michael Wear, author of Reclaiming Hope and former Director of Faith Outreach for President Obama, to explore what it looks like to live out the teachings of Jesus under a microscope of politics, partisanship, and public scrutiny. Wear shares his incredible journey—from a chance hallway meeting with then-Senator Obama to serving in the White House's Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. He opens up about the tensions of holding Christian convictions in a progressive Democratic administration and explains how he navigated controversial issues like abortion, the contraception mandate, and LGBTQ+ rights. Through it all, he offers a hopeful vision for how Christians of all stripes can engage in meaningful political action without losing their integrity or their soul. Key Takeaways: • Faith and Public Service – What it meant for Wear to live as a committed Christian while serving under President Obama, and how his identity shaped his political engagement. • Engagement Without Idolatry – Practical ways that followers of Jesus can advocate for justice, human dignity, and the common good without placing their hope in political outcomes. • Reframing Polarization – Why reclaiming hope requires that we move beyond cynicism and demonization, and what it looks like to be 'other-centered' in the public square. • From Critique to Contribution – Ways Christians can create shared moral ground around pressing issues like poverty, fatherhood, immigration, and religious liberty. • How Hope Becomes Subversive – Wear's definition of hope as a force that challenges fear-based politics and empowers believers to lead with humility and courage. Guest Highlight: Michael Wear – Author of Reclaiming Hope and President of Public Square Strategies, Wear offers a deeply informed and nuanced take on the intersection between Christian faith and American politics. As one of President Obama's youngest staffers, he brings firsthand experience from the frontlines of policymaking and shares a radical vision of what Spirit-led civic engagement could look like today. Resources Mentioned: • Book: Reclaiming Hope by Michael Wear – Amazon • Public Faith Initiative – publicfaith.us • World Vision – worldvision.org • Tyler Wigg-Stevenson – The World is Not Ours to Save Reframe your approach to politics by rediscovering Jesus-centered activism that puts people over partisanship. Subscribe for more conversations that challenge cultural assumptions and deepen your discipleship. Leave a review, share with a friend, and follow us on social media to stay engaged. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How should followers of Jesus navigate boundaries in relationships across gender lines, especially in leadership and workplace settings? Mike Erre and Andy discuss the ethics and implications of the "Billy Graham Rule" after a listener question sparks thoughtful reflection on Vice President Mike Pence's commitment never to dine alone with a woman other than his wife. Drawing from biblical principles, personal experience, and cultural critique, they unpack the tension between honoring marital fidelity while also recognizing the unintended consequences of such personal convictions—especially for women in leadership. This wide-ranging conversation explores not only the historical origins of the Billy Graham Rule but also what it reveals about power, temptation, gender dynamics, and spiritual formation. At the heart is the challenge to move beyond compliance to external boundaries and instead become the kind of person who naturally chooses integrity, trust, and love. Key Takeaways: • Understanding the "Billy Graham Rule" – Its origins, motivations, and how leaders like Mike Pence have applied it in politics. • Protecting Marriages vs. Disempowering Women – Why well-intentioned boundaries can unintentionally limit women's access to opportunity and reinforce harmful gender stereotypes. • The Role of Lust and the Heart – Jesus's deeper teaching on lust and adultery shifts the focus from circumstances to spiritual formation. • Cultural and Generational Gaps – How Millennials and Gen Xers engage the workplace differently, and why older frameworks may fall short today. • Becoming a Safe Person – Why avoiding temptation isn't enough and how integrity is formed in private, not just enforced by rules. Notable Quotes: • "Marriage is hard work. Every marriage will reach a place where one or both partners wonder, 'Did I make a mistake?' That's when boundaries can help—but only for a season." • "Jesus didn't merely avoid the appearance of evil—he was sometimes accused of it. His focus wasn't appearances. It was love." • "The goal is to become the kind of person who is safe—around anyone." Resources Mentioned: • Genesis 1 – God's design for male and female partnership • Matthew 5:27–28 – Jesus's teaching on adultery and lust • The Billy Graham Rule background: Wikipedia – Billy Graham rule • Ray Vander Laan's teachings – Cultural insights into Jesus's world • Close Calls by Dave Carder – Exploring the stages and warnings of near-affair situations Join the ongoing conversation about how Christ followers can engage the workplace, relationships, and power with grace and wisdom. Subscribe, leave a review, and connect with us on social media—it really helps us continue these important conversations. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion in the journey of following Jesus. Got thoughts? Email us at [email protected] or connect on Instagram and Facebook. Watch the conversation on VOXOLOGY TV Grab some fresh Voxology gear at our ETSY shop More ways to connect: • Visit voxologypodcast.com • Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify • Support us on Patreon • Check out Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Follow him: @GoneTimothy on Instagram & Twitter As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How adopting a biblical view of aging reshapes our identity, deepens community, and reveals the unexpected vitality of growing older. Mike Erre and Andy unpack the difference between two Greek words for "new" — neos and kainos — to explore how scripture invites us to reimagine aging not as a decline, but as a spiritual renewal. From pop culture's idolization of youth to the church's neglect of its elders, they challenge our assumptions and offer a fresh, hopeful perspective on what it means to age in God's kingdom. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Neos vs. Kainos – Mike breaks down the difference between neos (new in time) and kainos (new in kind), revealing how the Bible values a deeper kind of renewal not bound to physical age. • Reframing Aging as a Gift – Learn why the scriptures celebrate old age as a sign of wisdom, responsibility, and fruitfulness, not decline or irrelevance. • Confronting Cultural Ageism – The modern obsession with youth leads us to discard the value of elders. Mike and Andy advocate for repentance and renewal in how we view and relate to different generations. • Intergenerational Exchange – Exploring how scripture calls both young and old to invest in each other through care, wisdom, and mutual honor, leading to shared growth and community transformation. • Caleb's Bold Declaration – Even at 85, Caleb believed he was as vigorous as ever in declaring God's promises. His story offers a powerful model for spiritual maturity and resilience in later life. • A New Vision for the Church – Mike discusses how recapturing this theology of aging can transform discipleship, mentoring, and church culture, highlighting the importance of older voices for spiritual formation. Resources Mentioned: • 2 Corinthians 4:16–18 – A foundational scripture on inward renewal. • Psalm 92 – The righteous still bearing fruit in old age. • Joshua 14 – Caleb's strength and courage at 85. • Ancient Near Eastern cultural references on honoring the elderly. • Timothy's pastoral instructions on treating older members with honor. Join the conversation by rethinking what it means to grow older in a youth-obsessed culture. Whether you're 20 or 70, discover how God renews us inwardly, day by day, and how we're called to bless and be blessed by every generation. Subscribe, leave a review, and share your story with us on social media. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected] and to engage in conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ET SY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Christians wrestle faithfully with some of the toughest and most personal questions of faith? In this deeply vulnerable and wide-ranging episode, Mike and Andy tackle real questions from listeners, offering theological insight and pastoral care on topics often avoided in church discussions. From suicide and salvation to masturbation, from hearing God's voice to discerning deception, the conversation is raw, compassionate, and refreshingly honest. If you've ever carried questions you were afraid to ask—about sexuality, divine guidance, or grief—this thought-provoking episode opens space for both truth and grace. Mike and Andy emphasize a Jesus-centered understanding of God's character and encourage spiritual maturity rooted in wisdom, community, and honest reflection. Key Takeaways: • Suicide and Salvation – God's judgment is not simplistic or transactional. Mike emphasizes that suicide is not the unpardonable sin and that the character of Jesus gives us reason to trust in a compassionate and redemptive God. • Hearing God's Voice – God speaks, but learning to discern His voice requires deep immersion in the Gospels. Recognizing Jesus's voice in scripture trains us to notice His voice elsewhere. • Masturbation and Morality – Pleasure isn't inherently sinful, but the why and how matter. Mike explores the nuanced realities of solo sexuality, balancing grace with responsible reflection and spiritual formation. • Calling Out Deception – While warning others can be loving, it must be done with humility and only after first examining our own hearts. Community-based discernment leads to more truthful—and less judgmental—engagement. • The Importance of Community – Lifelong spiritual growth involves surrounding ourselves with trusted voices who can lovingly speak the hard truths we may not want to face. Resources Mentioned: • Dallas Willard – "Hearing God: Developing a Conversational Relationship with God" • Gospel Accounts – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (for learning Jesus's voice) • www.voxologypodcast.com – For more episodes and resources As always, we encourage and welcome your questions as we journey together. Email your thoughts to [email protected] and engage with us on Instagram and Facebook. We're also on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Grab some Vox merch on our ETSY store Learn more, support on Patreon, and subscribe: • Website • iTunes • Spotify • Patreon • Voxology Radio on Spotify Follow us on social: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Voxology Podcast Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by: Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy) If today's episode helped you wrestle honestly with your own questions, subscribe and leave us a review—we want to continue creating space for real conversations around Jesus and faith. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can someone become a wise, compelling teaching pastor without going to seminary? What does it really mean to follow Jesus—and are you truly a disciple if you're not living out his teachings? In this special Facebook Live Q+A episode, Mike Erre and Andy tackle raw, honest questions from the Voxology community. This is the first part of an ongoing series responding to listener-submitted spiritual, theological, and cultural questions. Mike and Andy reflect on church leadership development, biblical literacy, spiritual authority, and what true discipleship looks like in practice. They also explore how the church should rightly approach sin and judgment within its own community. Key Takeaways: • Becoming the Kind of Person Who Has Something to Say – Instead of chasing credentials, immerse yourself deeply in Scripture, pursue spiritual maturity, and find mentors whose voices resonate with Christ-centered integrity. • Following Jesus Means Actually Following – A verbal commitment to Christ is not enough without transformation and Christlike love being formed in your actual life. • Grace and Accountability in the Church – The distinction between judgment and discernment and how discipline, when done right, leads to restoration, not exclusion. • Misusing Scripture to Avoid Nonbelievers – How verses like 2 Corinthians 6 are often taken out of context to wrongly justify excluding the world rather than loving and serving it. Guest Highlights: No special guest this time, but the conversation is powered by the vibrant Voxology community and the powerful dynamic between Mike Erre and Andy. Resources Mentioned: • N.T. Wright – https://ntwrightonline.org • Dallas Willard, The Divine Conspiracy • Scott McKnight – https://scottemcknight.substack.com • Ray Vander Laan series – "That The World May Know" (Focus on the Family) • Books and resources from Beth Moore, Megan Fate, and other female teachers This is just the beginning of the Q+A Series—more honest, unfiltered conversations are on the way. Got your own questions? Send them to [email protected] and be part of the dialogue. Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and follow us on social media to support the show and stay connected! We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV – https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Our Merch Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Learn more: https://voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voxology Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How do we reconcile the compassionate nature of Jesus with the seemingly angry and wrathful God of the Old Testament? In this deep-dive conversation, Mike Erre sits down with pastor and author John Mark Comer to unpack the complexities of God's character as revealed in Exodus 34:6–7—an often overlooked but deeply foundational passage in Scripture. As Comer's book "God Has a Name" launches, the two friends explore how God's mercy, justice, jealousy, and slowness to anger paint a fuller picture of who Yahweh really is. This episode tackles some of the toughest theological questions listeners frequently ask, offering a fresh lens to engage Scripture and dismantle the harmful caricatures of God many carry. Highlighting God's personal name, Yahweh, and the relational nature of that revelation, Mike and John Mark invite us into an understanding of God that's deeply biblical, profoundly human, and ultimately hopeful. Key Takeaways: • God's Name Matters – Seeing God as "Yahweh," not just a generic "Lord," opens the door to intimacy and relationality with the divine. • Slow to Anger Doesn't Mean Never Angry – Understanding God's wrath as a deliberate, just response to evil and suffering, rooted in His love for the world. • Justice and Mercy in Tension – Exodus 34:6–7 reveals how God's character holds both mercy for thousands and accountability for wrongdoing, with mercy overwhelmingly outweighing punishment. • Why Jealousy is Good News – God's jealousy reflects His zeal for relationship with us and His passion for eradicating the idols that enslave us. • Misusing God's Name Damages Witness – Living out God's name wrongly misrepresents His character and distances people from true knowledge of Him. Guest Highlight: John Mark Comer – Pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, Oregon, and author of several popular books on discipleship and spiritual formation. In this episode, he unpacks the themes of his newest work, "God Has a Name," bringing theological clarity and relational depth to the attributes of God. Resources Mentioned: • "God Has a Name" by John Mark Comer – johnmarkcomer.com • Exodus 34:6–7 – A detailed exploration of the most quoted Bible verse... by the Bible itself. • Bridgetown Church – bridgetown.church • Vox Live Event – April 20 in Placentia (RSVP info TBD) • Bridgetown Podcast – [Available on iTunes/Spotify] Join the conversation as we challenge misconceptions and rediscover the God who is merciful, just, and relentlessly faithful. Don't miss this approachable but deeply thoughtful episode that bridges biblical theology and lived experience. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast on iTunes, Spotify, or your favorite platform, and be sure to leave a review and connect with us on social. — As always, we encourage and love discussion as we pursue these truths together. Email questions to [email protected] and engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube, too: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Support the show on Patreon Connect with Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford | Insta & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How proximity, storytelling, community, and embracing complexity help transform cultural narratives about disability and reshape the Church's witness to those the world often overlooks. Mike and Andy welcome back Heather Avis—author, mother, advocate, and founder of the Lucky Few—for a powerful conversation in recognition of World Down Syndrome Day. Through candid storytelling, laughter, and raw honesty, Heather, Mike, and Andy reflect on their shared journeys as parents of children with Down syndrome. They explore what it means to celebrate their kids joyfully and unapologetically in a world that still often sees disability through the lens of sorrow or burden. This episode goes far beyond advocacy—it is a reflection on God's invitation for all of us to enter into spaces of discomfort, risk, and deep love for the sake of others. It's about the beauty found in the "yes" to raising children with Down syndrome, the brokenness of systemic ableism, and the everyday wonder these kids bring into the world. Key Takeaways: • Parenting Children with Down Syndrome – Heather, Mike, and Andy share their adoption stories, fears, joys, and the transformational impact of raising their children. • The Power of Proximity – Why relationship and authentic inclusion—not pity or distance—change culture and hearts more than social media ever could. • Confronting Ableism – Personal stories of heartbreaking exclusions and how our systems are still built for the "typical," despite efforts at inclusion. • What If There Were a Cure? – Wrestling with the ethics and theology behind conversations about eradicating Down syndrome and what that says about our values. • Joyful Non-Compliance – Advocating for our kids begins with celebrating every little victory for what it is: sacred and worthy of delight. Guest Highlights: Heather Avis – Author of The Lucky Few, adoptive mom of three children (two with Down syndrome), and fierce advocate for inclusion, dignity, and beauty in diversity. Heather shares her heart about the importance of story-sharing, confronting cultural narratives of "normal," and using her platform to spotlight the incredible value her children carry just by being themselves. Resources Mentioned: • The Lucky Few by Heather Avis – heatheravis.com • Heather's Instagram – @macymakesmyday • Learn more about the movement at theluckyfew.com • Changing the Face of Beauty – Link • World Down Syndrome Day – worlddownsyndromeday.org Join us in celebrating the beauty of difference and becoming people who say a full-throated "yes" to others the world might overlook. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology wherever you listen—your support helps amplify voices that matter. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How power dynamics shape the church, politics, and our personal witness sits at the heart of this thought-provoking live podcast episode in our Way of Resistance series. Recorded at the Monkey Business Café in Fullerton, California, Mike and Andy take a deep dive into the teachings of Jesus on power—contrasting "power over" (coercion, control, and dominance) versus "power under" (self-sacrificial love, service, and nonviolent resistance). Through Scripture, cultural analysis, audience interaction, and a healthy dose of humor, they confront how the American church has often lost its way by pursuing the wrong kind of power—political, institutional, and authoritative—at the expense of the cross. Listeners will walk away challenged and inspired to reclaim a Jesus-like influence rooted not in dominance but in subversive servanthood, prophetic humility, and a commitment to love even the enemy, including how this shapes voting, protesting, and everyday personal relationships. Key Takeaways: • The Danger of Power Over – A deep dive into how the church often mimics the world's structures of control and coercion, from celebrity pastors to political endorsements. • Power Under, the Way of Jesus – Why self-sacrifice, service, empathy, and love are the defining marks of kingdom power, and how Jesus modeled this in his life and death. • Keeping Two Questions Distinct – Understanding the crucial difference between "What do I believe the state should do?" and "What advances the Kingdom of God?" • Cross-Centered Protest – Tips for protesting without perpetuating division, by staying rooted in love, humility, and solidarity with the marginalized. • Confronting Spiritual Abuse with Grace and Truth – A raw discussion on how to process church leadership failures and confront power-abusing institutions with integrity. • How to Love Our Enemies (like ISIS) – Wrestling with the radical call of Jesus to bless those who persecute you, even in the face of systemic evil. Guest Highlights: Live Q&A with an engaged audience tackled questions on military service, spiritual abuse, evangelical politics, interfaith solidarity, and more—offering raw, heartfelt insights from people navigating faith on the ground. Resources Mentioned: • Matthew 20:25-28 – Jesus's teaching on greatness and servanthood. • Matthew 26:47–56 – Jesus's rebuke of Peter and commentary on violence. • John 18 – Jesus before Pilate and "My kingdom is not of this world." • Constantine and the shift of the church to power over culture. • Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil Rights movement as examples of power under. • The practice of lament and blessing in spiritual life & trauma recovery. Get Involved: Help us push back against toxic power structures by embodying power under through compassion, service, and self-sacrificial love. Share this episode with someone struggling with faith and politics. Subscribe, leave a review, and connect with us on social media to continue these vital conversations about what it means to follow Jesus in the chaos of modern culture. — As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected] and engage in the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube too (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How reframing hell through the lens of heaven and earth can lead us to a more restorative understanding of God's judgment and radical love. In a deeply personal and theologically rich episode, Mike Erre and Andy dive into the ongoing "Exile Series" with an intense focus on how hell is misrepresented in Christian thought, why judgment is essential to the biblical story, and how eternal consequences don't have to mean eternal torment. Blending pastoral vulnerability with scriptural insight, Mike shares his own experience with anxiety and uncertainty while simultaneously inviting listeners to rethink the nature of God's justice, redemption, and future restoration. Key Takeaways: • Heaven and Earth, Not Heaven and Hell – The Bible tells the story of the rupture and eventual restoration of heaven and earth, instead of a dichotomy between heaven and hell. • Why Judgment Matters – God's judgment is not about arbitrary punishment, but about restoring shalom by confronting evil, telling the truth about history, and purging all that dehumanizes creation. • Hell as Exile, Not Torture – Drawing from the biblical imagery of Gehenna and exile, hell is reframed as banishment and containment rather than a cosmic torture chamber. • Surprise and Reversal – God's judgment brings unexpected outcomes. Insiders may become outsiders, self-righteousness is exposed, and humility is exalted. • Sin Carries Its Own Consequences – Many of God's judgments are intrinsic to the sin itself. Consequences are often lived out now, shaping who we are and where we're headed. • Hope Beyond Damnation – Mike offers a compelling case for conditionalism (sometimes called annihilationism), arguing that eternal conscious torment may not reflect the heart of the gospel or the nature of God's justice. Resources Mentioned: • Book: Skeletons in God's Closet by Joshua Ryan Butler • Book: Four Views on Hell (2nd edition) edited by Preston Sprinkle • Podcast + Book: Rethinking Hell by Christopher Date • Book: Surprised by Hope by N.T. Wright • Voxology Teaching Series on Hell – voxologypodcast.com • Live Show: March 9 at Monkey Business Café This episode is a powerful blend of theology, personal struggle, and a fresh vision of the gospel that highlights Jesus's beauty, mission, and mercy in a world desperate for hope and truth. We'd love to hear what questions or insights you have as you process this. Feel free to share this episode with someone navigating their own understanding of hell and eternity—it's a conversation starter, not a definitive close. Don't forget to subscribe to Voxology, leave us a review on Apple or Spotify, support us on Patreon, and connect with us on social media. Your support means the world to us. As always, reach out with your thoughts and questions: [email protected] We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Join the conversation. Question. Wrestle. Discover. This is Voxology. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How a biblical vision of sex—rooted in wholeness, beauty, and fundamental human goodness—offers hope for those struggling with pornography in a world of shame, silence, and secondhand smoke. Mike Erre and Andy unpack a deeply personal, raw, and candid discussion on pornography addiction within modern Christian culture. This is not your typical "don't do it" sermon. Instead, the episode seeks to unmask the complex emotional, neurological, relational, and spiritual realities of living in what Mike calls a "pornified culture." Drawing from emotional honesty and extensive biblical teaching, Mike shares his lifelong struggle, the impact on his family, and the road toward healing, reformation, and freedom. Key Takeaways: • The Pandemic of Porn and the Power of Shame – Why secrecy gives porn addiction its lasting power and how confession and truth-telling begin the path forward. • Secondhand Smoke of Lust Culture – How porn affects not just users, but society at large—objectification, shame, altered relationships, and decreased desire for healthy love. • A Theology of Sexuality – Reclaiming God's original intent for sexuality as something good, whole, and a reflection of divine intimacy, rooted in Genesis and Song of Songs. • Lust vs. Desire – Clarifying Jesus' teachings in Matthew on lust and coveting and differentiating healthy attraction from objectifying lust. • Neurological and Emotional Truth – Exploring modern brain science research that confirms Paul's teachings in Ephesians on the numbing power of lust and addiction. • Unnumbing from Addiction – Mike's personal tools for healing: confession, accountability practices, spiritual disciplines, joyful parenting, therapy, and choosing to "live up to the freedom you already have." • Sexuality and Spiritual Formation – Recognizing that lust is not simply a moral failing but a formation issue that must be addressed through new habits, new desires, and community. Guest Highlights: Mike Erre – Teaching pastor and Voxology host shares with searing honesty his ongoing journey of struggle and growth with porn addiction, emphasizing grace over judgment and formation over fear. Andy Laura – Contributes as a thoughtful millennial voice, reflecting on marriage, generational challenges, and the fallout of purity culture, while offering hope for a deeper, healthier view of sex and relationships. Resources and References: • Ephesians 4:17–19 – Paul's teaching on the hardening of heart and loss of sensitivity as stages of addiction. • Genesis 1–3, Song of Songs – A foundation for understanding God's "very good" creation of sexuality and human desires. • Dallas Willard & Richard Foster – Insights on spiritual disciplines and the pursuit of formation, not perfection. • Covenant Eyes – covenanteyes.com – Tool for accountability software mentioned by Mike. • Sexual Addicts Anonymous – saa-recovery.org – Support groups based on the 12-step model. • Brain Studies Cited – Research on neuroplasticity, dopamine pathways, and addiction recovery. Join the journey of reclaiming beauty, wholeness, and real freedom. Share this episode with a friend who might find it helpful. And help others find healing by subscribing, leaving a review, and following Voxology on social. As always, we invite discussion as we pursue healing together. Send questions to [email protected], and connect on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store on ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Listen to our curated music on Voxology Radio (Spotify) Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How unpretending can open the door to real healing, radical grace, and renewed purpose for the misfits among us. Mike and Andy sit down with speaker and founder of Freedom Movement, Carrie Garcia, for a raw and powerful conversation about faith, addiction, ministry, mental health, and the cost of pretending in church culture. Carrie shares her heart-wrenching and hope-filled journey—from growing up as a pastor's kid in dysfunction, surviving years of drug use, trauma, and church shame, to rediscovering herself and creating a movement where authenticity and healing take center stage. This episode boldly disrupts the narrative of performance-based faith and invites listeners into something deeper, messier, and more beautiful. Key Takeaways: • Freedom in Unpretending – How transparency and truth-telling are vital spiritual disciplines for a church obsessed with appearances. • Church Culture & Shame – Discussing the damaging effects of performative Christianity and how the pressure to "keep it together" contributes to spiritual and emotional isolation. • From Meth to Ministry – Carrie's gripping testimony of addiction, recovery, and reclaiming her identity in Jesus—without needing to hide her story. • The Gospel for the Misfits – Why Jesus chooses misfits, and how that truth is reshaping conferences, ministries, and church partnerships across the country. • Restoration After Brokenness – Exploring the difference between behaving and becoming in the aftermath of failure, and how experiencing God's love in the pit can lead to real transformation. • Women in Leadership – Carrie shares her thoughtful, bridge-building perspective on female preachers in a church culture slowly shifting from exclusion to empowerment. Guest Highlights: Carrie Garcia – Pastor's kid turned meth addict turned founder of the Freedom Movement, Carrie is a speaker, ministry leader, and advocate for honest faith. Known for her gripping storytelling and fierce authenticity, Carrie is pioneering events and partnerships aimed at helping people—especially women—know they aren't alone and that Jesus meets them right where they are, not just where they pretend to be. Resources Mentioned: • Freedom Movement events and info – freedommovement.us • Follow Carrie on Instagram – @carriegarcia1 • Upcoming Freedom Movement LA Event – March 24 at Rocky Peak Church • Vox Live Show – March 9 at the Monkey Business Café in Fullerton. Sign up and more info at voxpodcast.com Join the movement and be part of something real, honest, and radically inclusive. Subscribe, rate us on iTunes, share this episode with a friend, and follow us on social media to keep the conversation going. We'd love to hear your thoughts and questions—email us at [email protected]. Join the dialogue on Instagram and Facebook. Catch more from the Vox community on VOXOLOGY TV and explore our merch at our Etsy Store. Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the work of Voxology on Patreon Make sure to follow @voxologypodcast on Instagram and like us on Facebook Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the church can redefine its role in a divided political climate by reclaiming allegiance to Jesus and resisting partisan captivity. Mike Erre and Andy reflect on what it means to be ambassadors of God's kingdom in an age of polarization, tribal politics, and cultural confusion. Drawing from early church history, scriptural insights, and challenging contemporary examples, this episode is an urgent call back to courage, clarity, and compassion. Key Takeaways: • Support, Challenge, and Create – Followers of Jesus are called to support what they can, challenge what they must, and create a prophetic alternative to the prevailing culture, no matter who's in power. • Christianity Is Not Partisan – How political allegiance has distorted faith communities and why true allegiance belongs only to Jesus the King. • From Hostility to Hospitality – Exploring the radical call to love neighbors, opponents, and even enemies with compassion, listening, and presence. • Giving Up the Culture War – Why American Christians need to move from seeking cultural triumph to pursuing the common good for all, including refugees, Muslims, and political adversaries. • Real Enemies and Real Hope – Reclaiming the biblical idea that the true battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the spiritual powers behind division and injustice. Guest Highlights: No guest in this episode, but the dialogue between Mike and Andy creates space for vulnerability, humor, and provocative insight. From reflections on Juster's FaceTime interruptions to meaningful conversation about political Christianity, they unpack complex issues with accessibility and grace. Resources Mentioned: • Phillip Yancey – Commentary on politics and faith. • Tim Keller – Sermons on early Christian political posture. • Cyprian of Carthage – Historical example of the church during plagues. • Bible references: Hebrews 11 – Longing for a better country. Philippians 3 – Citizenship in heaven. Luke 10 – The Good Samaritan. 2 John – Warning about false teachers, addressed and challenged. Galatians 5 – Fruit of the Spirit. Ephesians 6 – Armor of God and powers/principalities. Join the conversation as we reclaim the radical, non-partisan, kingdom-oriented mission of Jesus. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on social media for continued perspectives rooted in biblical faith and public witness. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue these things together. Feel free to email your thoughts and questions to [email protected], and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're now on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our merch store on ETSY Explore more episodes at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the show on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does prayer work in a world marked by injustice, trauma, and unanswered cries? Mike Erre and Andy tackle one of the hardest and most personal questions the Voxology community has ever wrestled with: Why do some prayers seem to be answered while others—especially those for safety and healing—go unanswered? Using an honest question from a listener as the foundation, this episode takes a deep dive into the complexities of prayer, God's sovereignty, the problem of evil, and what "answered prayer" truly means when held up against global suffering like Aleppo or the death of a child. This isn't about quick solutions or spiritual platitudes. Mike and Andy explore why drawing straight lines between outcome and God's will often leads to distorted theology and wounded hearts. Instead, they argue for a richer, more biblically grounded approach that embraces mystery, laments with hope, and chooses trust even in the silence. Key Takeaways: • The Role of Prayer in Partnership with God – Prayer isn't about control but influence, intimacy, and cooperation with a God who desires relationship, not puppets. • Why "It Must Be God's Will" is Harmful – Debunking this simplistic response with biblical texts that show other wills—human and demonic—are at work in the world. • Faith is Participation, Not Certainty – How the Bible presents faith as movement toward God, not psychological confidence, and why formulas around "enough faith" can be spiritually abusive. • The Power of "I Don't Know" – Why humility, not certainty, is the most Christ-like and pastoral response to suffering. • What Prayer Cultivates in Us – Prayer changes how we speak, see, and align ourselves with the heart of Jesus, even when we don't understand the outcomes. Resources Mentioned: • The Book of Daniel, particularly Daniel 10 – Exploring the cosmic battle that interrupted answered prayer. • James 4:3 – On asking with the wrong motives. • Mark 9:24 – "I do believe; help my unbelief." • Bruce Almighty (2003) – Used for theological humor and metaphor around prayer and divine control. • The "Stages of Faith" and related previous episodes – Look for episodes around faith, doubt, and deconstruction. Join us in embracing a deeper conversation on prayer—one that leads not to perfection or predictive theology, but to a more honest and sacred space of trust, action, and mystery. If this episode resonates with you, don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite platform to stay part of the journey. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the raw honesty of the Psalms offers a roadmap for navigating spiritual maturity, emotional turmoil, and the disruptive journey of faith. Mike Erre and Andy dive into Walter Brueggemann's framework for categorizing Psalms—orientation, disorientation, and reorientation—and explore how this mirrors the spiritual stages articulated by M. Scott Peck. This episode is a heartfelt journey through belief, suffering, and the surprising grace found in facing doubt and darkness head-on. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Brueggemann's Psalm Categories – Orientation celebrates settled, clear faith; disorientation confronts chaos, lament, and abandonment; reorientation emerges through surprise, hope, and restored relationship. • From Stage 2 to Stage 4 – Mapping Peck's spiritual stages onto the Psalms highlights the often messy, nonlinear progression of maturing in faith. • The Power of Lament – Why the church must rediscover the lost tradition of lament in a culture that idolizes positivity and avoids pain. • Reframing Worship – How the modern church often leans too heavily on orientation and neglects the disorientation most people are actually experiencing. • Honesty in Church Culture – What it means to make churches "the most honest places in town" and spiritually form people through suffering rather than in spite of it. Notable Quotes: • "Prayer is not a place to be good. It's a place to be honest." • "The Bible is way more honest than Christians are about suffering." • "The goal isn't to get back to orientation—it's to move forward into a faith that has survived disorientation." Resources Mentioned: • Walter Brueggemann's work on the Psalms • Matthew Soerens – World Relief Immigration Proposal • M. Scott Peck – Stages of Spiritual Development • Psalm 145 – Example of Orientation • Psalm 88 – Example of Disorientation • Psalm 40 – Example of Reorientation • Book of Psalms – Bible Gateway: Psalms Join us in embracing a faith that makes room for grief, doubt, and wrestling. Share this episode with someone navigating spiritual uncertainty. Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review, and follow Voxology Podcast on your favorite platform or social outlet. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the Four Stages of Faith, as outlined by M. Scott Peck, can help you better understand your own spiritual journey and engage more graciously with people at all stages of Christian development. Mike and Andy take a deep dive into Peck's psychological and spiritual framework—introducing the stages of Chaotic/Antisocial, Formal/Institutional, Skeptic/Individual, and Mystic/Communal—and reflect on how these stages intersect with church life, leadership, and what it means to follow Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Understanding Peck's Four Stages of Faith – A journey from chaotic self-interest to mystic communion, and how these psychological insights mirror major spiritual milestones. • Stage-Specific Challenges and Temptations – Why each stage brings unique struggles, comforts, and moments of crisis that often catalyze deeper growth. • The Painful Beauty of Transition – How breakdowns in belief systems, routines, or institutions can lead to more authentic spiritual engagement when embraced with humility. • Why Forms Aren't the Goal – Differentiating between the external structures (forms) of religion and the deeper truths they represent. • Lessons for Leaders and Churches – How teaching, community engagement, and discipleship can better serve multistage faith communities—and avoid alienating those in transition. • Jesus Across All Stages – How Christ graciously interacts with people at each stage, offering transformation without demanding conformity. Helpful Insight: Peck's provocative assertion that many people turn to religion in Stage 2 to escape mystery, while those at Stage 4 are drawn to it because of mystery, becomes a powerful lens for reshaping how we view spiritual maturity. Resources Mentioned: • M. Scott Peck – "The Road Less Traveled" and "People of the Lie" • Romans 14 – "Who are you to judge someone else's servant?" • Mike Erre – "Astonished" (book) • Vox Podcast Archive – Deep dive conversations on deconstruction, doubt, and discipleship Join the conversation and reflect on where you are in your spiritual growth. Which stage resonates with you the most right now? How can your community create space for people wrestling with different stages? Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and stay connected with us online. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Gain theological insight into one of Christianity's most complex and debated doctrines as Mike Erre and Tim Stafford are joined by theologian, author, and scholar Dr. Preston Sprinkle for an honest, in-depth conversation about the biblical views of hell. Drawing from his extensive study and his role as editor of the book "Four Views on Hell," Preston breaks down how Scripture has been interpreted through church history, discusses the implications of eternal conscious torment, annihilation, and universal reconciliation, and explains how these views reflect (or conflict with) the character of God. This episode challenges traditional assumptions and invites Christ followers—and seekers alike—to reconsider the meaning of "perish" in John 3:16, how justice and love work together, and why Jesus's own teachings on hell deserve contextual and thoughtful engagement. Key Takeaways: • The Three Christian Views of Hell – Eternal conscious torment, conditional immortality (annihilationism), and universal reconciliation are all scripturally rooted and historically endorsed within Christian orthodoxy. • Why 'Perish' Might Actually Mean Perish – Reexamining the wording of John 3:16 and other key passages that support death and destruction over eternal torment. • Conditional Immortality Explained – Understanding how "the gift of eternal life" depends on God granting immortality, not humans inherently possessing it. • The Soul Is Not Naturally Immortal – A critique of Augustine's Platonic influence and how church tradition may have distorted biblical teaching. • Hell's Evolution in Church History – From early church variety to Augustine's dominance, plus medieval distortions with Dante and power structures. • The Problem of 'Eternal Punishment' – Interpreting key passages like Matthew 25 and 2 Thessalonians 1 with scholarly nuance and care. • Universalism's Biblical Basis – Exploring possible scriptural justification for ultimate reconciliation—yes, including Romans 5 and Revelation's open gates. • Pastoral and Evangelistic Implications – How we talk about hell matters, especially for those exploring Christianity or harmed by toxic theology. Guest Highlight: Dr. Preston Sprinkle – A noted New Testament scholar and founder of the Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender, Dr. Sprinkle is known for his accessible and compassionate engagement on tough theological topics. He shares candidly about his interpretive journey, from co-writing "Erasing Hell" with Francis Chan to now strongly supporting the annihilationist view. Resources Mentioned: • Four Views on Hell – Zondervan Counterpoints Series • Erasing Hell by Francis Chan & Preston Sprinkle – Link • People to Be Loved by Preston Sprinkle – Link • Theology in the Raw Podcast – Preston Sprinkle's Podcast • N.T. Wright's Surprised by Hope – Link • The Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender – centerforfaith.com Discover how framing hell biblically rather than traditionally opens up deeper, more compassionate theology. Subscribe to the Voxology Podcast, leave us a review, and follow us on social media to join the conversation. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more at the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What happens when church culture rewards appearance over transformation and silence over honesty? In this brutally honest and deeply reflective episode, Mike Erre and Andy Bear tackle a listener's request to unpack the issue of infidelity among church leaders and why it may be more common—or at least more hidden—than we'd like to admit. Reflecting on personal experience, witness to spiritual leaders who have fallen publicly, and a dysfunctional worship team dress code, the conversation explores how Western models of church and pastoring create systems where personal brokenness is ignored rather than exposed and healed. Mike shares vulnerably from his own struggles to reveal how unchecked ego needs and church culture's preference for polish can lead to spiritual rot. This episode is a crucial call to shift from sin management to discipleship, from platform addiction to communal honesty, and from isolation to transformation. If you're a church leader, serve on a ministry team, or care about the health of your faith community, this one's for you. Key Takeaways: • Why Sin Management Fails – How transactional gospels ignore the need for genuine transformation and contribute to shallow spiritual formation. • The Toxicity of the Stage – How church platforms and social media reward image over honesty, and how that dynamic gives temptation room to grow. • Creating a Culture of Confession – The difference between shocking vulnerability and life-giving transparency that fosters healing and spiritual maturity. • Why Messes Aren't Welcome – How church systems discourage emotional honesty, forcing leaders to hide behind performance and piety. • Personal Stories of Struggle – Mike reflects on therapy, ego needs, temptation, and how he's learning to walk in fullness rather than validation-hunting. Resources Mentioned: • Close Calls by Dave Carder – A powerful look at the warning signs of emotional and physical affairs and how to navigate temptation before damage is done. • Dallas Willard – His concept of the "gospel of sin management" as a critique of modern Christian discipleship. • Vox Community Podcast – A four-part deep dive series on God's judgment and wrath, referenced throughout this episode. Share your own thoughts, stories, or questions by emailing us at [email protected] or engaging on Facebook and Instagram. Subscribe, leave a review, and help us build a church culture that welcomes messiness, promotes honesty, and seeks true transformation in Jesus. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A heartfelt wrap-up to a remarkable year of the Voxology Podcast, as Mike Erre shares gratitude for the incredible support, growing community, and the conversations that have shaped the last twelve months. On this special solo episode, Mike records an intimate update on what's ahead for Voxology in 2023, including new series exploring tough questions about prayer, suffering, and being "embarrassed by the Bible." And as a bonus, he offers a humorous and moving original year-end Christmas poem, reflecting on the joys and heartbreaks of 2016 while celebrating the hope found in Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Gratitude for Community Growth – From 430,000+ total downloads to 57 generous Patreon supporters, the show's growth has exceeded expectations, with listeners from California to Texas and beyond. • Upcoming Series Sneak Peek – Mike outlines plans for new series, including: A prayer series exploring theological tensions and unanswered questions. Topics of suffering and God's sovereignty. "Embarrassed by the Bible" series unpacking strange or troubling passages. "When We Disagree" – a guide to navigating Christian conflict with love. "The Resistance" – living out minority views within faith and culture. • Reflections Through Humor and Poetry – Mike's original Christmas poem combines pop culture references and spiritual insights, offering a creative capstone to the year. Resources Mentioned: • Vox Christian Community: voxoc.com • Support the Podcast on Patreon: patreon.com/voxpodcast • Follow us on Twitter: @TheVoxPodcast Let's keep the conversation going. Subscribe, leave a review, and stay engaged with us on social media as we head into an exciting year ahead. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV – YouTube Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify Channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How specific feedback, honest critique, and cultural engagement can help reimagine the Church's role in a changing world. In this open and deeply introspective episode, Mike Erre and Andy unbox some recent listener feedback with striking vulnerability—addressing head-on the accusations of church-bashing, ambiguity around biblical truth, and the challenge of speaking tough topics in a way that honors both grace and truth. Using a listener email as a springboard, the conversation unfolds around topics like how Jesus critiqued the religious elite, why the Church can be both deeply flawed and deeply beloved, and how Vox embodies hospitality and lifelong learning through the value of feedback. Through stories about Apple's internal culture to training for a Spartan Race (yes, seriously), the episode opens conversation about past hurt, responsibility, and the tension between evangelism and truth-telling. Key Takeaways: • How and why Vox separates the podcast from the church—legally and missiologically—to allow space for honest political and cultural conversations. • A breakdown of the four types of feedback and why specific feedback is essential for personal and organizational growth. • Why critiquing the Church isn't a declaration of abandonment, but an invitation to reform grounded in love and prophetic tradition. • How Jesus models grace-first engagement with outsiders—and why leading with truth doesn't always reflect his method. • Building a culture where correction, humility, and vulnerability are spiritual disciplines, even in digital spaces. Resources Mentioned: • Vox Community feedback email: [email protected] • Support the show on Patreon – patreon.com/voxology • Vox Merchandise – VOXOLOGY on Etsy • Spotify Channel: Voxology Radio Join us as we talk candidly about criticism, humility, and the mission of being the Church in a divided world. Your insights matter—email us at [email protected] or join the ongoing conversation on Instagram and Facebook. Subscribe, leave a review, and help us rethink the church from the inside out. — We're on YouTube too: VOXOLOGY TV Follow on Instagram & Twitter: @voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What if the path to knowing God is wider, richer, and more mysterious than we've assumed? This episode of Voxology takes a deep dive into the controversial question: is Jesus really the only way to God? Prompted by a listener email and a candid conversation between two brothers, Mike Erre and Andy dismantle simplistic formulas of salvation and exclusivism—offering a vision of God's redemptive work that is bigger than Christian categories. Drawing from Scripture, theology, and real-life stories, this thoughtful reflection explores religious pluralism, God's relationship to the nations, how salvation may extend beyond formal religion, and the surprising way Jesus includes outsiders in the Kingdom. From Paul's teachings in Acts and Romans to Jesus's healing of the Roman centurion, the episode offers a deeply biblical, hopeful, and theologically generous framework for understanding who gets "in." Key Takeaways: • Reimagining Religious Exclusivism – Understanding how truth claims and pluralism can coexist without abandoning the uniqueness of Jesus. • Salvation and the Nations – Exploring God's global redemptive mission throughout Scripture and how Israel's calling always pointed toward universal blessing. • Jesus Beyond Christianity – Why God does not require Christianity or human institutions to reveal himself; insights from Cornelius, Acts 17, and other examples. • The Surprise of Judgment – Jesus's teachings reveal that many who seem "outside" will be included, and those who assume they're "in" may be left out. • The Heart Over Doctrine – God is searching for a certain kind of heart, regardless of cultural or religious labels, and will relentlessly pursue those open to him. Notable Quotes: • "The surprise of judgment in Jesus's parables is that those you think are in may be out, and those you think are out may be 'in.'" • "Christianity is not the only vehicle through which Jesus reveals himself." • "Love of neighbor is the first rule in any theology of pluralism." • "We're not in the position to know how God applies Jesus to the world—but we trust he is always good, just, and merciful." Resources Mentioned: • Acts 10 & 17 • Romans 2 • Dallas Willard – on discipleship and epistemology • N.T. Wright – theological insights on salvation and the nations • Revelation 21 – the leaves of the tree for the healing of the nations Call to Action: This episode invites you to hold your convictions with humility and curiosity. If it stirred questions for you or sparked meaningful conversations, join in by emailing [email protected] or engaging on social media. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast as we continue to explore the complexities of faith, Jesus, and modern culture. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: Etsy Learn more at: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the podcast by becoming a partner on Patreon Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and Facebook: facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – also @GoneTimothy on social. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can the church navigate LGBTQ conversations without reducing them to binary stances? Mike and Andy break down one of Voxology's most foundational and pressing topics—what it means to be a faith community that is welcoming, inclusive, and mutually transformative. Drawing from years of wrestling in both the podcast and the local Vox community, they respond to a prominent article that challenges the idea of "agreeing to disagree" on homosexuality within the church. Mike shares personal insights from leading a church that makes space for affirming and non-affirming people to walk alongside each other with empathy, honesty, and grace. This vulnerable and unfiltered episode confronts the complexities of LGBTQ affirmation, biblical authority, spiritual leadership, and the dangers of boiling nuanced conversations into political or doctrinal litmus tests. Whether you're well into your spiritual journey or still discerning what you believe about LGBTQ issues in the church, this episode invites deeper reflection on what unconditional welcome, true discipleship, and shared transformation really look like. Key Takeaways: • Examples of how affirming and non-affirming Christians can coexist in authentic, Jesus-centered community—without sacrificing conviction or compassion. • Why the "agree to disagree" model often misses the deeper discipleship that happens when diverse stories and honest dialogue are prioritized. • The problem with reducing LGBTQ issues to binary positions and how mutually transformative community offers a richer, more faithful alternative. • Powerful critiques of how the church treats sexual sin inconsistently, especially when comparing LGBTQ inclusion to the treatment of divorce, remarriage, and greed. • A call to rethink church litmus tests and public pronouncements that may hinder mission, discipleship, and the gospel witness to LGBTQ individuals. Resources Mentioned: • David Fitch – Writer and theologian offering the term "welcoming and mutually transforming" • Breakpoint / Chuck Colson Article – Critiqued in the episode as promoting a rigid stance on LGBTQ inclusion • David Gushee – Changing Our Mind (book on evolving Christian ethic around sexuality) • Nicholas Wolterstorff – Cited among Christian scholars questioning traditional readings • Matthew Vines – God and the Gay Christian Join us as we continue to question, examine, and rediscover the mission and ways of Jesus in complex theological spaces. Share this episode with someone wrestling through these conversations, and remember to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected with the Voxology community. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue these topics together. Email your questions to [email protected], and engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Check out VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@voxology Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/voxology Grab your Voxology merchandise on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/VOXOLOGY?ref=shop_sugg_market Official website: https://voxologypodcast.com/ Subscribe on iTunes: https://apple.co/1Lla1Nj Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Mvxz3OQDSkEpHujXiFkkr?si=KJoEXxxxTsqE-HiGL-PfIA Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast "Like" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford: https://www.timothyjohnstafford.com/ Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Unpacking the theological and cultural roots of why many Christians have ignored or resisted environmental issues, Mike and Andy answer a listener's question from a post-Thanksgiving Facebook group that's diving into faith, science, and the planet. Drawing on the Genesis creation narrative and the biblical theme of heaven and earth, they explore why the church should lead the charge in caring for creation, and what's at stake when we don't. This episode takes a deep dive into the biblical framework that supports environmental stewardship, challenges the theology that says "the Earth doesn't matter because it's all going to burn," and offers hope that strikes at the heart of climate apathy. Key Takeaways: • Biblical Mandate to Steward the Earth – Genesis 1 positions humanity as image-bearers of God tasked with ruling and caring for creation as co-regents and priests. • Why We've Failed – How bad theology, political polarization, and capitalism have led many Christians to ignore or oppose environmental movements, wrongly labeling them "liberal." • The Real Endgame – The true biblical narrative isn't about escaping earth for heaven, but heaven and earth being reunited through a purification and renewal of creation. • Climate Justice as a Discipleship Issue – Taking care of the planet isn't just a trendy concern; it's central to following Jesus and participating in God's redemptive mission. • Jesus and the Scope of Salvation – Jesus didn't talk about "souls going to heaven." Instead, he announced the arrival of God's kingdom and invited people to align with it now—which includes caring for creation. Resources Mentioned: • Genesis 1 & 2 – For foundational theology on humans as image-bearers. • Romans 8 – Creation groaning and awaiting redemption. • Revelation 21 – Vision of a New Heaven and New Earth. • 2 Peter 3 – Understanding "purified by fire" as renewal rather than annihilation. • Teaching on Heaven and Earth from Vox Community – November 27 • Visual Diagrams of Heaven and Earth (via show notes) Join the conversation and challenge the narrative. Let's be the church that reflects Jesus's love—not just for people, but for all of God's good creation. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to stay connected and take part in this mission of restoration. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETsy Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the church can resist political captivity and rediscover its core mission of peacemaking, reconciliation, and countercultural witness in a divided and fearful post-election landscape. In this cornerstone conversation between Mike Erre and Andy Bear, the spotlight turns to white evangelical support of Donald Trump, Christian identity in modern America, and how Jesus followers can truly live into their call as agents of peace—not partisanship. Taking a candid look at the tension between culture, faith, and politics in the aftermath of the 2016 presidential election, Mike and Andy break down where many evangelicals have misplaced their allegiance, and how the gospel calls for something radically different. They also unpack their controversial launch of the Voxology Patreon community, offering listeners new opportunities for deeper engagement, discipleship, and Bible-centered podcast series—beginning with the Book of Revelation. Key Takeaways: • Peacemaking vs. Peacekeeping – The difference between avoiding conflict and stepping into hard conversations with a redemptive posture. • Evangelical Identity Crisis – Why equating victory in politics with triumph for Christianity is a dangerous narrative, and how it distorts the view of Jesus for outsiders. • Post-Election Disillusionment – Exploring the real fears of marginalized and minority communities following Trump's election and the church's responsibility to stand with the oppressed. • Forming a Gospel-Centered Community – Updates on Voxology's new Patreon initiative, tiers, and what to expect from future content like an entire podcast series on the Book of Revelation. • Practicing Peace at the Table – How Thanksgiving dinners and family dialogue can become sacred opportunities for peacemaking, empathy, and real-world spiritual formation. Resources Mentioned: • Support Voxology on Patreon • More on Voxology's Mission and Podcasts • Daniel K. Williams – Historian on Evangelical Politics • Study on Canvassing and Reducing Bias Take this conversation further: What does real peacemaking look like in your everyday life? Whether around the family table or navigating tough conversations online, let us be the community that refuses to be divided by fear. Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Join the conversation by emailing us at [email protected] and following us on Instagram @voxologypodcast & Facebook Watch full episodes and bonus content on VOXOLOGY TV Support the show and get exclusive merch at our Etsy Store Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Jesus followers respond meaningfully and compassionately in the wake of a deeply polarizing presidential election? Mike Erre and Andy reflect on the day after the 2016 U.S. election—just hours after Donald Trump was elected president—to offer a timely pastoral conversation about what it means to be peacemakers when the nation feels fractured. With powerful insights grounded in the teachings of Jesus, they discuss how grief, empathy, repentance, and prophetic witness must shape our response as Christians, regardless of political allegiance. Key Takeaways: • Grieving With Those Who Grieve – Empathizing with marginalized communities who feel threatened post-election and choosing to listen without defensiveness. • The Peacemaker's Role – Asking how Jesus followers can rise above divisiveness and embody hope, humility, and justice in a politically charged environment. • Evangelical Identity in Crisis – Exploring the Church's alignment with political power and the witness it communicates to the watching world, especially among white evangelicals. • The Danger of Demonizing – Rejecting the "us vs. them" narrative by remembering our real enemy is not flesh and blood, but the powers that divide and distort love. • Practicing Political Discipleship – Calling all Christians to evaluate their allegiance: Are we reflecting American nationalism or the Kingdom of God in our public engagement? Resources Mentioned: • Matthew 5 – "Blessed are the peacemakers…" • Ephesians 6:12 – "Our struggle is not against flesh and blood…" • James 1:19 – "Be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." • St. Francis of Assisi's Prayer – A call to be instruments of peace. Join us in embracing the path of peacemaking and rediscovering what it means to be the Church in divided times. Subscribe, share your thoughts, and help us bring Jesus-shaped love and truth into America's cultural chaos. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A candid, wide-ranging conversation with Mike Erre and Andy as they tackle a grab bag of honest and often unspoken questions from listeners about sex, marriage, singleness, divorce, and gender identity. With humor, vulnerability, and a deep reverence for both Scripture and lived experience, this Q&A episode pulls back the curtain on real Christian struggles in today's complicated cultural landscape. Drawing from listener-submitted questions, Mike and Andy unpack how to talk to your kids about sex, how the church mishandles singleness, why married Christians often struggle with sexual shame, what to do when your spouse transitions genders—and what it looks like to reflect Jesus in all of these tough spaces. Key Takeaways: • Sexuality and the Church – Why the church's emphasis on abstinence and purity culture often fails to prepare people for healthy sexual relationships within marriage. • Being Single in a Married Church – The overlooked spiritual and emotional needs of single adults and why the modern church often alienates them. • Transgender Identity and Marriage – When one partner transitions gender identity, what does Christian faithfulness look like? A deeply human reflection on grace, betrayal, and discernment. • Teaching Kids About Sex – How Mike is raising his kids with an open, age-appropriate, and body-positive approach to sexuality grounded in wonder rather than shame. • Holy Frustrations – How polarized reactions on social media—like the recent backlash against Jen Hatmaker—show the urgent need for gracious, Christ-centered disagreement within the body of Christ. Resources Mentioned: • Learn more and support at Vox Podcast Patreon • Visit the Vox Church Plant Podcast: Vox Community Podcast • Vox Podcast Website – voxpodcast.com • Vox Community Website – voxoc.com Be part of the conversation—send us your questions for future Q&A episodes and help shape a more honest and inclusive Christian dialogue. If this episode sparked something in you, consider subscribing, leaving a review, and following us on Instagram and Facebook. We're also on YouTube if you'd rather watch us ramble: VOXOLOGY TV Merch available at our Etsy Store Support the show on Patreon Full episodes on Spotify and iTunes Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Engage with our community on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford | Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can Christians approach elections without compromising the way of Jesus? Live from Villain Studios, Mike Erre and Andy unpack how Jesus invites his followers to engage politically—not as loyalists to political platforms, but as citizens of a radically different kingdom. In this fifth installment of the "Jesus & Politics" series, they challenge the fusion of faith and nationalism, explore how kingdom allegiance transcends party lines, and ask the tough question: what if how we carry ourselves after an election matters more than how we vote? Listeners will walk away with a renewed vision of what faithful political engagement can look like in a polarized age—one rooted not in fear, but in love, humility, and the cruciform example of Jesus. Key Takeaways: • Distinguishing Between Faith and Political Platforms – Why pairing Jesus with a party diminishes the power of the gospel and alienates those outside the church. • How You Vote vs. How You Live – Why showing up November 8 isn't as important as how you embody kingdom values all year long. • Political Idolatry in the American Church – How evangelical Christianity has obscured the beauty of Jesus by anointing political candidates as messiahs. • Reimagining the Church as a Post-Election Witness – What it means to take communion with people who voted differently and embody unity above partisanship. • Understanding Different Views on Church-State Relations – Exploring four theological perspectives that shape how Christians engage with politics and government. Resources Mentioned: • "Jesus for President" by Shane Claiborne – A resource on rethinking political discipleship. • "Romans 13" – Insight into the biblical role of government and civil obedience. • Scott Sauls, Sky Jethani, and Alan Kreider – Authors and theologians referenced for their work on the church, politics, and peacemaking. • Revelation as Subversive Literature – A fresh reading of Revelation that challenges empire and nationalism. • Book of Matthew – Teachings like "love your enemies" as political acts. Don't miss this compelling conversation about navigating the chaos of American elections while staying anchored in the example of Jesus. Subscribe to stay tuned for the next installment in the Jesus & Politics series, leave a review to support thoughtful dialogue, and follow Voxology on social media for more content and community. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How honest is too honest when it comes to faith, mental illness, and ministry? In this revealing conversation, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford sit down with Joey Svenson—pastor, podcaster (Bad Christian, Pastor With No Answers), and author of the raw and unflinching memoir "Fundamentalist"—to explore how extreme fundamentalism and OCD collided in his early faith journey, how he found healing, and why he believes radical vulnerability is essential to authentic Christianity. Mike and Tim reflect on their own experiences with mental health, church trauma, and spiritual deconstruction, sharing laughs, cringes, and powerful insights as Joey opens up about his struggles and hopes for the church. This is a permission-granting episode—for those wrestling with faith or mental health, for those bearing secrets under the pressure to perform holiness, and for anyone hungering for a church that welcomes honest questions and raw humanity. Key Takeaways: • Mental Illness in the Church – Joey unpacks his journey with OCD and anxiety in the context of rigid, legalistic doctrine that turned prayer into a panic-inducing obligation. • The Cost of Pretending – Why the performance of "clean and holy" leadership does spiritual harm and how honesty about struggle builds real community and healing. • Parenting with Permission – How Joey's evolving faith has reshaped his approach to parenting, focusing on humility, honesty, and theological curiosity. • The Role of Vulnerability in Public Ministry – Why Joey chooses transparency—even when it could cost him—and how his church leadership surprisingly embraced it. • Disrupting the Christian Status Quo – How Joey's podcasts and book challenge evangelical norms while creating safe spaces for those wounded by the system. Guest Highlight: Joey Svenson – Co-host of Bad Christian and Pastor With No Answers, Joey brings humor, grit, and honesty as he shares his personal experience of wrestling with mental illness, fundamentalism, and ministry expectations—all laid bare in his bold new book. Resources Mentioned: • Joey Svenson's Book – Fundamentalist – A brutally honest memoir about OCD, fundamentalism, and faith. Preorder now at fundamentalistpastor.com • Bad Christian Podcast – badchristian.com • Pastor With No Answers Podcast – pwnapodcast.com • BC Words Publishing – DIY publishing platform for disruptive voices in Christian spaces Join the conversation with us as we challenge the norms, share our stories, and rediscover Jesus in places we least expect. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast to continue the journey. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion. Email your thoughts to [email protected] and engage with us on Facebook and Instagram. Catch more content on VOXOLOGY TV on YouTube. Grab some Vox merch at our ETSY STORE. Discover more at voxologypodcast.com. Subscribe via iTunes or Spotify. Support us on Patreon. Stream music and more at Voxology Radio on Spotify. Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and like us on Facebook. Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford (@GoneTimothy) As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How forgiveness transforms, heals, and awakens us to the radical grace of Jesus—even when reconciliation seems impossible. In this milestone 50th episode, Mike and Andy reflect on the podcast's evolution, exciting upcoming changes, and dive into one of the most nuanced and powerful teachings of Jesus: forgiveness. Whether you've been wounded by the church, suffered spiritual trauma, or wrestled with resentment, this conversation offers a deeply honest look at what forgiveness is—and what it isn't. Through personal stories, unpacked theology, and quotes from RT Kendall's "Total Forgiveness," Mike and Andy examine why forgiveness isn't about glossing over pain or forgetting offenses, but about yielding our right to vengeance and finding healing through honest confrontation and grace. Key Takeaways: • Forgiveness is personal, not institutional – You can't forgive "the church" as a vague entity; real forgiveness requires naming the individuals who caused harm. • Dispelling the "forgive and forget" myth – True forgiveness does not require forgetting; it requires remembering rightly and responding with grace and boundaries. • Forgiveness ≠ Reconciliation – Forgiveness can happen without reconciliation, especially when the other party is unsafe, unavailable, or unwilling to participate. • The spiritual roots of bitterness – Holding on to resentment impacts not just our relationships but our connection to God and self. • Practical pathways to forgiveness – From praying for God's blessing over the one who hurt you to small internal shifts like saying their name without anger, forgiveness is often a quiet, powerful process. • Forgiving God and Self – Wrestling with our own anger toward God or ourselves is part of learning to trust and release, even when answers never come. Guest Highlights: None this episode—but keep an ear out for Episode 51, featuring Joey Svensson from Bad Christian and The Pastor With No Answers podcasts. Resources Mentioned: • RT Kendall – "Total Forgiveness" • Matthew 18 – Jesus' parable of the unmerciful servant • The Lord's Prayer – Matthew 6:12 • Subversive Kingdom Archive – formerly subversivekingdom.com (now forwarding to the new Vox website!) This episode also includes some big announcements: • The podcast is officially transitioning away from SubversiveKingdom.com to VoxPodcast.com. • You can now listen via SoundCloud and subscribe directly through RSS. • Support options and recurring contributions are coming soon—stay tuned! Join the global Vox family in embodying Jesus' subversive grace. If this conversation sparked something in you—or you have your own story of forgiveness—reach out. We'd love to hear from you. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow @voxologypodcast on social to continue the journey. — Email feedback or questions to [email protected] Subscribe via iTunes or Spotify Subscribe directly on SoundCloud Visit the new website: voxpodcast.com And check out Vox Community teaching podcast at voxoc.com YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Merch store: Etsy Shop Support on Patreon Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Grace and peace to you—see you soon for Season 2! As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the church can still be a place of healing, transformation, and deep belonging—even when it's broken. Part three of the "Why We're Leaving the Church" series dives deep into personal stories across generations, offering a raw and hopeful conversation on why many still choose to stay, participate, and even lead within the church despite its failures and contradictions. Mike Erre, Andy, and Izzy reflect on the struggles, disappointments, and transformative beauty of church life. From hypocritical leadership and personal trauma to unexpected healing through meaningful community, this episode explores how reimagining our expectations of church can lead to renewed engagement rather than abandonment. Key Takeaways: • Reframing Church Beyond Institutions – Following Jesus means belonging to his body, even if we walk away from institutional expressions of church. • The Healing Power of Authentic Community – Izzy shares her journey from spiritual burnout to renewed faith through genuine relationships and shared vulnerability. • Corporate Worship as Resistance and Formation – Worshiping together with diverse people disrupts individualism and reminds us we're not at the center of the story. • Admitting Complicity and Staying Present – Mike discusses how recognizing his own role in perpetuating unhealthy church patterns keeps him humble and committed to transformation from within. • Ordinary Faithfulness Over Flash and Production – The path forward isn't about escaping discomfort or imperfection but choosing depth, presence, and the messy, transformative work of relational community. Guest Highlights: • Izzy – A worship leader in her twenties who vulnerably shares her painful church experience and the surprising reasons she stays—including relational healing, meaningful worship, and the beautiful weirdness of spiritual family. • Andy – Unpacks his own journey out of and back into church life and the spiritual discipline of staying engaged in community despite disillusionment. Resources Mentioned: • Why People Are Leaving the Church (Article Series) • Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller • 1 Corinthians (Letter by Paul) – Specifically Paul's critique of the Corinthian church, reminding us the early church was messy too. • Ivan Illich Quote – "If you want to change society, then you must tell an alternative story." Share your story with us—why have you stayed? What keeps you coming back to the body of Christ? Email us at [email protected]. Let's reimagine together what it means to be the church. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social to join the journey. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: Etsy Learn more and listen to more episodes at Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/voxology Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the church has lost its witness by prioritizing culture wars, misrepresenting love, and failing to embody the radical, self-giving love of Jesus — and why it matters. In this honest and provocative conversation, Mike Erre, Andy, and Izzy Ray dive deep into the next two points from the widely shared blog post "Dear Church, Here's Why People Are Leaving You," exploring the disconnect between the Church's messaging and Jesus' own heart for people. This is Part 2 of the "Dear Church" series. Whether it's choosing the wrong battles or wielding a love that doesn't feel like love, today's church often alienates the very people it's called to embrace. Through personal stories, scriptural reflection, and candid critique, the team wrestles with the call to embody agape love — a love that costs, sacrifices, and welcomes. Key Takeaways: • Choosing Better Battles – Why the Church often fights for trivial causes while staying silent on poverty, racism, and injustice — and how that undermines its mission. • Love as a Transformative Force – Redefining love as a costly, self-sacrificial act rooted in Jesus' example, not superficial niceness or moral correctness. • The Evangelism vs. Justice Divide – How our inherited Christianity has wrongly separated "saving souls" from addressing structural injustice, and why that needs to change. • The Church and the Margins – Recognizing that Jesus does His best work from the margins, not the center of power and influence — and why embracing marginalization may be crucial to rediscovering the Church's purpose. • Restoring Witness through Authenticity – How building real, honest, committed relationships — even with those who disagree — revives the credibility of our faith and witness. Resources Mentioned: • James 1:27 – "Pure religion" as caring for widows and orphans. • Dallas Willard – Teachings on joyful noncompliance and spiritual formation. • Ray Vander Laan – Cultural background of the Gospels. • Toxic Charity by Robert D. Lupton – A critique of unhelpful generosity. • When Helping Hurts by Brian Fikkert and Steve Corbett – How well-meaning aid can backfire. • The Insanity of God by Nik Ripken – Stories from the persecuted global church. • John 3:16 – A deeper reflection on divine love and mission. • Luke 6:27-36 – Jesus' call to love enemies and embody mercy. Join hosts Mike, Andy, and Izzy for a striking look at how the Church must return to love, humility, and justice to truly reflect the heart of Jesus in a hurting world. Call to Action: Help spread this conversation by subscribing, reviewing, and sharing the Voxology Podcast. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook to keep up with the latest — and if any reflections or stories resonate with you, we'd love to hear from you. As always, listener feedback is deeply valued. Send your thoughts and questions to [email protected] or connect with us on social platforms. We're on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more at voxologypodcast.com Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support us on Patreon Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford & featured music by Izzy Ray – izziray.com Instagram & Twitter: @voxologypodcast | @GoneTimothy | @izziray As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How can the church reclaim its prophetic voice and connect deeply in a generation disillusioned by performance, image, and control? That's the question Mike Erre, Andy, and special guest Izzy Ray tackle in this candid and heartfelt conversation. Prompted by John Pavlovitz's article "Dear Church, Here's Why People Are Really Leaving You," the trio explores what it means to be authentic in ecclesial spaces, challenge the production model of church gatherings, and create communities that honor real brokenness, humility, and beauty. This isn't a church-bashing episode—it's a love letter to the mission of Jesus and an invitation to witness how weakness might actually be the church's superpower. Key Takeaways: • Rejection of Performance-Based Church – Why young adults, like Izzy, are exhausted by overproduced experiences and long for authenticity instead of scripted perfection. • The Loss of Mystery – How rigid control and stage-managed services strip away the wonder and spirit-led surprise that gathering in Jesus's name should embody. • Weakness as Qualification – Revisiting Paul's declaration that "power is made perfect in weakness," and why church leaders may actually be most qualified to lead when limping. • Burnout in the Pulpit – The systemic failure of celebrity leadership models, why burnout is common, and what rest and restoration should actually look like. • Language That Connects – Replacing insider churchy language with meaningful, plain communication that resonates with real-life people. • Beyond the Building – Challenging the "come and consume" model of church and reimagining church gatherings as platforms for love, justice, and community outside the walls. Guest Highlight: Izzy Ray – Worship artist, pastor, and Vox community member representing the generational voice of an authentic hunger for Jesus. Izzy opens up about her lived experience with church culture, what she longs for in Christian gatherings, and why vulnerability and mystery matter more than polish and hype. Resources Mentioned: • Article: "Dear Church, Here's Why People Are Really Leaving You" by John Pavlovitz – johnpavlovitz.com • Book: Power, Weakness, and the Tabernacling of God by Marva J. Dawn – [Link] • Podcast: Vox Community podcast (for teachings + scripture series) – Vox Community on iTunes • Izzy Ray music – izzyray.com Join us as we embrace the beauty of the messy middle, where Jesus shows up not in sameness, but in brokenness, realness, and hope. Got thoughts or your own story about leaving or staying in church? Email us at [email protected] – we want to hear from you! Subscribe, share, and leave a review to help us keep reimagining Jesus's mission together. We're now on YouTube too – VOXOLOGY TV Vox Merch: ETSY SHOP Patreon: Support meaningful conversation – Patreon.com/voxology Follow on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Join the Vox Community on Facebook Music by Timothy John Stafford (also @GoneTimothy) and guest artist Izzy Ray As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Exploring how a scared world needs a fearless church, Mike Erre takes a deep and unflinching look at the growing entanglement between American evangelicalism and political power in this episode of the Subversive Kingdom Series. Drawing from the controversial 2016 meeting between Donald Trump and prominent evangelical leaders, Mike questions what it means for Christians to align themselves with political figures out of fear rather than faith. Through sharp critique, biblical insight, and passionate reflection, Mike and Andy unravel how the church's call to represent Jesus contrasts radically with political partisanship and fear-based decision-making. Key Takeaways: • The Evangelical Infatuation with Political Power – How the church's alliance with political candidates reflects a loss of trust in Jesus's nonviolent, subversive way of transformation. • Fear as a Political Tool – A breakdown of how candidates prey on Christian fears—religious liberty, cultural decline, economy—and why fear should not drive our faith or our vote. • Reclaiming Kingdom Power – Distinguishing between brute force power and agape-based kingdom influence through wisdom, love, and example. • The Idol of Comfort and Security – Why Trump's appeal reveals the deeper idolatries within American evangelicalism and how repentance is a necessary response. • Jesus Over Partisanship – Why fidelity to Jesus means rejecting the binary "lesser of two evils" mindset and refusing to be a voting bloc used for political gain. Guest Highlights: Andy – Co-host and thoughtful dialogue partner, helping process the implications of fear-based leadership and challenging the audience to consider what it really means to be a fearless church. Resources Mentioned: • Romans 13 – Discussion on the church's relationship with governmental authority • Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5) – Exploration of what true kingdom power looks like through Jesus's teachings • The Beatitudes – Compared against the values embodied by modern political candidates • Subversive Kingdom by Mike Erre – [Link to Book/Website] • Charles de Foucauld (L'Arche Movement) – Reflections on authentic Christian community vs. issue-based identity Be part of the movement to reclaim a Jesus-centered, fearless faith rooted in sacrificial love, not political gain. Subscribe to Voxology, leave a review, and follow us on social media to continue engaging in these critical conversations. We'd love to hear from you—email questions to [email protected] and join the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Watch us on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Check out our Merch Store: ETSY Learn more: voxologypodcast.com Subscribe: iTunes | Spotify Support the podcast: Patreon Explore our music: Timothy John Stafford Follow on IG & Twitter: @voxologypodcast | Mike: @mikeerre | @GoneTimothy Let's continue walking in Jesus's way of fearless love in a culture gripped by fear. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

A bold exploration into one of the most unsettling theological questions: does God cause evil and suffering? Mike Erre and Andy Lara kick off this deep-dive theological series by confronting the reformed doctrine of meticulous sovereignty—popularized by groups like The Gospel Coalition—and its claim that God not only allows but ordains suffering to achieve his glory. With humor, thoughtfulness, and academic grounding, Mike outlines an alternative view that reflects God's goodness more compellingly, rooted in the overarching biblical narrative. This episode offers a popular-level yet intellectually rich walkthrough of the Bible, highlighting how human freedom, divine partnership, and the brokenness of creation challenge the deterministic theology that God wills every tragedy. From Genesis to Paul's epistles, Mike builds the case that God's original intent was to rule through human agency—not override it—and that evil is not the product of God's direct will but a distortion of it. Key Takeaways: • Meticulous Sovereignty vs. Participatory Creation – A critique of the idea that God predestines all events, including evil and suffering, and why it clashes with the biblical story of human agency and divine cooperation. • A Different Story of Sovereignty – A fresh retelling of the biblical narrative that emphasizes cooperative partnership between God and humanity, from Genesis through Jesus. • Jesus as the Clear Picture of God – How Jesus's battle against sickness, death, demonic powers, and injustice reflects a God who confronts—not causes—evil. • Death as the Enemy, Not God's Tool – Why Paul calls death the "last enemy to be destroyed," offering a decisive argument against the idea that God wills death to bring glory. Resources Mentioned: • 1 Corinthians 15:20-26 – Paul's picture of death and enemy powers against God's reign • Gospel Coalition tweet: "God doesn't just allow suffering. He ordains it." • Genesis 1-3 – The creation mandate and the role of human image-bearers • David Bentley Hart – Orthodox theologian critiquing deterministic sovereignty • Bill Johnson's When Heaven Invades Earth – Offering a theology of the kingdom consistent with Jesus's ministry Call to Action: Help us reshape how the church talks about suffering and God's character. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media so others can join in reclaiming a Jesus who's more beautiful than we imagined. As always, we welcome your thoughts and questions—email us at [email protected] or join the ongoing conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Catch curated musical vibes on the Voxology Spotify channel: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Practical wisdom for engaging in heated conversations with compassion, truth, and empathy. Communication theorist Dr. Tim Muehlhoff joins Mike Erre and Andy to break down how Christians can honor both truth and love in our polarized world. Drawing from his book "I Beg to Differ: Navigating Difficult Conversations with Truth and Love," Tim offers a four-step approach to make our relational disagreements more fruitful—whether it's over politics, gender identity, theology, or everyday marriage struggles. This fun and thought-provoking episode explores how modern Christians can reimagine public discourse as a form of spiritual formation, resisting the culture of outrage without compromising convictions. Filled with humor, poignant stories, and real-world scenarios, this is a must-listen for anyone striving to make Jesus beautiful in how they communicate—online and face-to-face. Key Takeaways: • The Argument Culture – Why modern discourse has become toxic and how Christians can resist a win-at-all-costs mentality through humility and empathy. • The Power of Listening – Why Scripture calls us to listen before we speak and how it fosters compassion, understanding, and a Christlike witness. • Finding Common Ground – How affirming shared values and stories builds genuine relationships and opens doors for truth. • Discernment in Dialogue – Why rushing to "share our position" can damage relationships, and how to wisely discern the right time, place, and tone for deeper discussions. • Social Media and Faith – Why social media often fails as a medium for nuanced communication—and the dangers of outrage sharing without relational context. Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Muehlhoff – Professor of communication at Biola University, co-director of the Center for Marriage and Relationships, and author of "I Beg to Differ." Tim offers expert insight into how communication theory meets Christian faith in transforming the way we engage difficult conversations—with loved ones, strangers, and cultural "others." Resources Mentioned: • I Beg to Differ by Tim Muehlhoff – Available here • Center for Marriage and Relationships – cmr.biola.edu • The Art of Relationships Podcast – Launching at Biola's Center for Marriage and Relationships • Proverbs 18:13 – "To answer before listening—that is folly and shame." • Longfellow Quote – On understanding the secret history of our enemies Join us in rethinking what it means to have conversations that reflect Jesus' posture of grace and truth. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on social media to dive deeper into the mission of Jesus in a divided world. As always, we encourage and welcome discussion as we pursue truth and grace. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and connect with us on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube now! VOXOLOGY TV Check out the Voxology Merch Store on ETSY Subscribe and learn more at voxologypodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon Check out curated music on the Voxology Spotify channel Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast Like us on Facebook Tweet at Mike: @mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How the biblical practice of public lament can help us confront communal tragedy, own our complicity, and embody compassionate presence in a hurting world. In this emotional and reflective episode, Mike Erre and Andy process an extraordinarily painful week of violence, including the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando. They explore the responsibility of Jesus followers to grieve publicly, speak honestly, and lament alongside marginalized communities rather than hijack grief for politics or theology. Mike deeply unpacks the biblical tradition of lament, offering insights into how grief is a spiritual pathway for protest, solidarity, and ultimately hope. Drawing from scriptures, Jewish mourning practices like sitting Shiva, and reflections on fear-driven cultural responses, the dialogue calls Christians to a new ethic of presence and repentance in times of suffering. Key Takeaways: • Grief Before Action – Public tragedy demands grief before reaction; Jesus followers must give permission for pain before offering answers. • The Power of Public Lament – The Bible models bold, honest lament that directs sorrow toward God, resists polite clichés, and names injustice without offering theological band-aids. • Fear and Blame Hijack Grief – How religious and political reactions quickly turn to fear, defensiveness, and outrage, masking the vulnerability of grief. • The Church's Prophetic Role – Christians are called to embody peace and security, even amid violence, reflecting the counter-cultural posture of Jesus. • Don't Hijack the Grief – Avoid theological posturing, political arguments, and "I told you so" tones in moments that should be sacred expressions of collective mourning. • Why We Sit Shiva – The practice of sitting Shiva invites Christians to be with the suffering, acknowledge their world has changed, and listen before speaking. Resources Mentioned: • Lamentations, Psalms of Lament, and Habakkuk – Foundational texts modeling biblical lament • Matthew Vines – Article on Christian responses to LGBTQ+ tragedies • Dallas Willard – Reflections on joyful non-compliance and Christlike resistance • Russell Moore – Article on weeping with those who weep • "Fade to Black" by Metallica – Referenced symbolically as a picture of grief Join us as we learn to lament well—without qualifications, without hijacking, and with deep compassion. Black out your social media profile with us as a small symbolic act of sitting Shiva with the LGBTQ+ and Orlando communities. Let's become a people shaped not by fear, but by love and sorrow that speak honestly and prophetically in a broken world. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast as we question, listen, and wrestle together in pursuit of the true mission of Jesus. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more: Voxology Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Support the Podcast: Patreon Check out our curated Spotify music channel: Voxology Radio Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: facebook.com/voxologypodcast Follow Mike: twitter.com/mikeerre Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How does the Book of Job challenge our assumptions about suffering, divine will, and justice? Continuing their Suffering Series, Mike Erre and Andy Lara navigate the emotional, cultural, and theological complexities of recent tragic events—particularly the fatal police shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile—while asking the deeper question: Does God cause suffering? Using the poetic narrative of Job as their backdrop, Mike and Andy wrestle with misleading Christian clichés ("God gives and takes away"), reconsider traditional theodicies, and expose how oversimplified views of God's sovereignty can cause real harm. By exploring Job's tale in its ancient Near Eastern literary and cultural context, the episode introduces a more dynamic, complex, and hopeful picture—one that recognizes the reality of spiritual conflict, the limitations of human understanding, and the subversive yet nonviolent nature of God's power. Key Takeaways: • The Book of Job as a Deconstruction of Simplistic Theology – Why Job's stylized, epic format invites us to abandon formulaic views of suffering and divine justice. • God vs. The Satan – How the narrative of Job introduces an adversary as an external source of evil, rather than attributing suffering directly to God's will. • Permission Isn't Ordination – The critical difference between God allowing suffering and God causing it. • The Injustice of the Just – How both Job and his well-meaning friends get it wrong in their own ways, and what that teaches us about speaking honestly versus speaking theologically "correct." • Reframing the Hedge of Protection – Why spiritual protection isn't about immunity from pain, but partnering with Christ in a war against evil and chaos. • Why "We Don't Know" Is Sometimes the Most Faithful Answer – A humble call to accept mystery in a world where we long for clarity and control. Resources Mentioned: • Greg Boyd – Books: "God at War" and "Satan and the Problem of Evil" • John Mark Comer – Job series from Bridgetown Church • Bible Scripture: The Book of Job • Dallas Willard – Teachings on non-coercive power • Podcast Mention: Upcoming interview with "Godless" (be sure to check it out in two weeks) Join Mike and Andy as they process personal grief, societal injustice, and theological discomfort, offering a space where deep doubts and honest questions are welcome. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology Podcast to keep these crucial conversations going. As always, we encourage discussion as we pursue deeper questions together. Email your thoughts to [email protected] and join us on Facebook and Instagram. Catch video episodes on YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Shop the official merch store: ETSY Discover more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe via iTunes or Spotify Support us on Patreon Music by Timothy John Stafford – Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Follow Mike on Twitter: @mikeerre As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

How should followers of Jesus respond to the ever-growing outrage culture consuming our news cycles and social media feeds? Mike Erre and Andy unpack the tension between righteous anger and destructive outrage, using powerful examples from Jesus' life to explore what holy anger looks like—and how we can engage with it in ways that lead to healing, not harm. This deeply relevant episode asks the hard questions: Who was Jesus actually angry at? What did He do with His anger? And how can Jesus' model change the way we react to political scandal, social injustice, and cultural flashpoints today? Whether you're burned out by the outrage machine or wrestling with how to channel your moral concern as a Christian, this conversation offers both challenge and comfort, inviting us to slow down, reflect, and respond from a place of love and transformation. Key Takeaways: • Human Anger vs. God's Righteous Anger – Understanding why not all anger is sinful, but when it stops leading to healing or blessing, we've missed the point. • Jesus' Anger Was Always Redemptive – From healing a man with a withered hand to defending children and cleansing the temple, Jesus' anger consistently brought about justice and restoration. • Outrage at Everything = Outrage at Nothing – How chronic outrage can numb our moral senses and hinder our witness to the world. • The Target of Jesus' Anger – Challenging the assumption that Jesus would be angry at "outsiders," and confronting how He actually condemned religious hypocrisy. • A Call to Self-Reflection – What are we angry at...and what does our anger produce? Resources Mentioned: • Mark 3:1–6 – Jesus heals the man with the withered hand. • Mark 10:13–16 – Jesus rebukes the disciples and blesses the children. • Mark 11:15–17 – The cleansing of the temple. • James 1:19–20 – "Human anger does not bring about the righteousness God desires." • C.S. Lewis – The Screwtape Letters (quote on errors being introduced in pairs) • The Book of Psalms – Understanding righteous indignation through poetic laments. • Additional discussions from previous Vox episodes on spiritual abuse and pharisaical religion. Join the conversation and explore how to respond to cultural tension with grace and truth, refusing to be shaped by the cycle of fear and fury. Subscribe to Voxology Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite platform. If today's conversation resonated with you, leave a review and share the episode. We'd love to hear from you! Drop your thoughts, questions, or feedback at [email protected]. We're also on social media: Instagram: @voxologypodcast Facebook: Voxology Podcast YouTube: VOXOLOGY TV Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/voxology Merch available now: Voxology on Etsy Learn more about Voxology and upcoming events at voxologypodcast.com Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

What happens when a pastor leaves three churches in six years but still feels a burning desire to serve the church? In this deeply personal and powerfully visionary episode, Mike Erre and Andy continue the Box Series with a vulnerable exploration of failure, passion, and the compelling dream of creating a new kind of Jesus-centered community. Reflecting on his own pastoral journey, Mike shares the drive behind planting a church born not of perfection, but of authenticity—a community centered on grace, honesty, radical inclusion, and service to the world. He outlines three foundational fires that continue to burn in him: becoming a church that exists to love and serve the world, creating the safest space to wrestle through anything, and investing in and empowering the next generation. Perfect for anyone who's ever felt disillusioned with church yet still longs for something real, this episode offers a compelling call to reimagine what it means to follow Jesus in community today. Key Takeaways: • The Church Exists for the World – A passionate argument for reorienting the church away from consumerism and toward sacrificial love and service. • A Safe Place to Be Real – The need for the church to be a place where people can talk honestly about anything—from sexuality to addiction—without fear of judgment. • A Vision for the Next Generation – Why mature believers must sacrifice preferences and traditions to pass on faith meaningfully to the next wave of Jesus-followers. • Learning from Failure with Hope – Mike's honest reflection on pastoral missteps and why he hasn't given up on the church—because he hasn't given up on Jesus. Resources Mentioned: • Learn more about the vision and upcoming community gathering: voxoc.com • Follow & engage with Mike online: subversivekingdom.com • Twitter: @MikeErre • Voxology Podcast YouTube Channel – VOXOLOGY TV • Voxology Merch Store – Etsy Shop Be a part of the conversation as we wrestle honestly with how to follow Jesus today. Subscribe to Voxology Podcast, leave a review, and follow us on Instagram @voxologypodcast and Facebook to stay up to date and connected. Have thoughts, questions, or reactions? Shoot us an email at [email protected]—we'd love to hear from you. Support the mission by joining our community on Patreon and help Voxology continue to create space for honest Jesus-centered dialogue. Music by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Voxology Radio on Spotify: Click Here As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! ETSY Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy