UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product Strategy

Can designers succeed in managing products? Is it a natural path forward? Our guest today is Christian Crumlish, product consultant and the author of Product Management for UX People. You'll learn how product managers benefit from UX knowledge, how and when startups should focus on their PM efforts, tips for learning product management as a designer, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesProduct Management for UX People — Christian’s new bookEllen Chisa — Christian’s role modelVirality metricRich Mironov — another of Christian’s mentorsFollow Christian on TwitterFollow Christian on LinkedInUse promocode UIBREAKFAST0222 for a discount on Christian’s bookToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by InVision. The future of work is not about getting things done in one specific way. The future of work is collaborative, where everyone’s strengths can fuel the entire team. That’s where InVision comes in. InVision brings teams and tools together in one real-time collaborative workspace. From kickoffs to handoffs, InVision makes work more inclusive, creative and impactful. Try it for free at invisionapp.com/go/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Pawel Grabowski, SEO strategist and founder of Smashing Copy. You'll learn why SEO strategy and content strategy are interchangeable in the context of SaaS, how to approach keyword research, practical tips for improving your content, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesSmashing Copy — Pawel’s SEO-focused Content Agency for SaaSLink Building Strategy with Alan SilvestriFollow Ruben Gamez on Twitter for SEO adviceHow We Used April Dunford’s 10-Step Method to Overhaul Positioning at UserlistSEMrush, Google Search Console, AccuRanker — SEO tools Pawel usesTopic clusters — pieces of content arranged around a central themeBook a call with Pawel at Smashing CopySponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we explore “the allied teams” model, which combines the benefits of a design agency and an in-house team. Our guest is Anthony Armendariz, co-founder and head of design at Funsize. You'll learn how Anthony finds designers in a competitive hiring landscape, why enterprise clients still value agency work, what team structures work best within large companies, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesFunsize — Anthony’s design agencyFunsize Ventures — Anthony’s design-for-equity partnershipsEpisode 228: Design Advisory with Brian LovinGeneral Assembly, Designlab — famous design bootcampsListen to The Hustle PodcastFollow Funsize on InstagramFollow Anthony on TwitterFollow Anthony on LinkedInToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by InVision. When collaboration thrives, work becomes more inclusive, creative and impactful. Whether it’s strategic plans or spontaneous brainstorms, InVision brings all your people, tools, and ideas together in one real-time collaborative workspace. InVision makes it easy for teams to connect, align, and do incredible work–together. Try it for free at invisionapp.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Alan Silvestri, founder of Growth Gorilla and expert in link building. You'll learn how to keep up with your SEO competitors, how to estimate the quantity and types of links you will need, strategies for link building outreach, tools of the trade, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesGrowth Gorilla — Alan’s companyAhrefs, Majestic SEO — tools for link analysisHARO, Help a B2B Writer — platforms that connect journalists and bloggers with industry experts (typically rewarded with a backlink)Follow Alan on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Why do UX writers still use different words to describe their own craft? Our guest today is Yuval Keshtcher, founder of UX Writing Hub. You'll learn how this ecosystem operates, what companies are leading the way with their guides, numerous books and resources to help with UX writing and content design, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesUX Writing Hub — Yuval’s educational platformEpisode 134: UX Writing with Yuval KeshtcherEpisode 155: Writing Microcopy with Yael Ben-DavidUX Writing vs. Content DesignSmashing Copy — SEO consultancy, also doing “content strategy”Atomic Design — a book by Brad FrostSketch, Adobe XD, Figma — popular design toolsIntuit’s content design systemTop 16 Content Style Guides 2022 (and How to Use Them)Mailchimp content style guideMonzo content style guide by Harry AshbridgeStrategic Writing for UX — a book by Torrey PodmajerskyContent Design — a book by Sarah RichardsMicrocopy: The Complete Guide — a book by Kinneret YifrahNicely Said: Writing for the Web with Style and Purpose — a book by Nicole Fenton and Kate Kiefer LeeUX Collective on MediumMeasure What Matters — a book by John DoerrUX Writing Hub Free CourseWriters in Tech podcastUX Writing Hub blog Don’t Make Me Think — a book by Steve KrugJust Enough Research — a book by Erika HallPredictably Irrational — a book by Dan ArielyNudge — a book by Richard ThalerThe Hook — a model by Nir EyalNielsen Norman Group — world leaders in research-based user experienceThe UX Writing AcademyFollow Yuval on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Chris Silvestri, copywriter, designer, and founder of Conversion Alchemy. You'll learn the strategies to increase conversions on landing pages and blog posts, the power of heatmaps and usability testing, resources for further CRO learning, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesConversion Alchemy — Chris’s copywriting and design businessQuinn Zeda — founder of Conversion CrimesClickUp — an example of a cohesive experienceHotjar, Smartlook — tools for measuring user behaviorClickUp, Balsamiq — examples of great blog designBaymard Institute — group that has research on usability studiesCopyhackers — a popular resource for conversion copywritersMECLABS Institute — resource for understanding buying behaviorConversion Alchemy Journal — Chris’s daily newsletter Follow Chris on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can you make the most of your customer interviews? Our guest today is Michele Hansen, co-founder of Geocodio and author of Deploy Empathy. You'll learn how to get started with customer development, how to incentivize users to participate in interviews, how to structure your calls, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesDeploy Empathy — Michele’s bookSoftware Social — Michele’s podcastThe Mom Test — a book by Rob FitzpatrickLean Customer Development — a book by Cindy AlvarezInterviewing Users — a book by Steve PortigalFollow Michele on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can UX designers position themselves to land the best suitable roles? Our guest today is Sarah Doody, UX researcher, designer and founder of Career Strategy Lab. You'll learn what companies look for when they are hiring designers, tips for crafting your portfolio, creative ways to scope projects before starting, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesCareer Strategy Lab — Sarah’s six month UX career acceleratorEpisode 42: Hiring for UX Positions with Sarah DoodyShopify, Gusto — examples of companies who build reputations as employersHelp! Is There a Cardiothoracic Surgeon in the Room? — an article by Jared Spool on T-shaped professionalsDon’t Make Me Think — a book by Steve KrugFollow Sarah on TwitterFollow Sarah on InstagramSubscribe to Sarah on YouTubeToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can asynchronous conversations help us achieve work goals? Our guest today is Brian Casel, founder of ZipMessage. You'll learn why async is so important for remote workers, how it can improve your hiring process, where realtime calls still work better, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesZipMessage — Brian’s product, a tool for asynchronous communicationAudience Ops, ProcessKit — Brian’s previous productsEpisode 85: Validating Your SaaS Product with Brian Casel2021, a 'shake-up' yearHow Stripe Manages Remote & Hybrid Work and CultureBasecamp, Tailwind CSS, Userlist, SavvyCal — several product inspirations for BrianEpisode 154: Refactoring UI with Adam Wathan and Steve SchogerSend Brian a ZipMessageFollow Brian on TwitterBootstrapped Web — Brian’s podcast with Jordan GalOpen Threads — Brian’s personal podcastToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Noah Bragg, founder of Potion. You'll learn about the benefits of building in public, practical tips for producing video content, strategies for posting on social media, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesPotion — Noah’s productNotion — a popular knowledge management toolJustin Jackson of Transistor and Megamaker, Damien Chen of Testimonial, Kenneth Cassel of Vim.so, JR of Flurly — examples of those building in publicNoah’s YouTube ChannelScreenFlow — a video editing toolTwitter Notion CommunityNotion’s Facebook groupFollow Noah on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What do traditional product funnels have to offer? Our guest today is Rachel Obstler, VP of product at Heap. You'll learn about the shortcomings of product funnels, how granular product data can unlock opportunities, common data science challenges, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesHeap — Rachel’s place of work, a product analytics toolBetter Done Than Perfect. Driving Behavior Change with Ashutosh PriyadarshyHeap’s Alternate Paths FeatureOpenView’s resources on product-led growthHeap’s Digital Experience Insights ReportToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Zeplin. It lets designers spend more time on design, less time on prepping design files for the team. With Zeplin Flows, effortlessly build user journeys with native connectors, flow groups, and text labels, no more maintaining extra layers in your design tool. Zeplin gets the entire team on the same page with exactly what they need to build. It’s so much more than just specs. Get started for free to see why.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Ekaterina Howard, a conversion copywriter and strategist. You'll learn about common SaaS copywriting crimes, how to be consistent with your messaging, how to research for the voice of the customer, how to utilize long-form content, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesekaterinahoward.com — Ekaterina’s consulting websiteFinding the Right Message — a book by Jennifer HaviceThe Mom Test — a book by Rob FitzpatrickHannah Shamji’s YouTube channel — customer survey teardownsCoda — a great example of homepage copyHow ClickGUARD got a 16% lift in conversions and identified its best-fit offer12 Tips on Voice of the Customer for SaaS from Ferdinand GoetzenFollow Ekaterina on YouTube, Twitter, and LinkedInSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What frameworks can we use to guide better conversations? Our guest today is Daniel Stillman, conversation designer and executive coach. You'll learn about several conversational modes, why it is important to have conversations with ourselves, how mentorship is different from coaching, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesGood Talk — Daniel’s bookEpisode 224: Service Design with Eleni StathoulisHigh Output Management — a book by Andrew GroveCrucial Conversations — a popular book about conversationsYour next meeting should be silentZencastr — a podcasting recording toolMural — a popular collaboration toolThe Conversation Factory — Daniel’s podcastInsiders Group — Daniel’s extended resourcesFree course to explore the facilitator hatsFacilitation masterclass — for those who have prior facilitation experienceGood Talk, the free chapters Follow Daniel on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Zeplin. Designers know that clarity is just as important as creativity. That’s why designers need Zeplin. Zeplin lets you organize and showcase your designs for developers and PMs. Your team will understand exactly what you want to build. No more confusing design files or endless meetings — Zeplin gives your team way more than just specs. Sign up for free at zeplin.io to see why.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Nicole Kow, a B2B marketing consultant and content strategist. You'll learn how to avoid a common content strategy pitfall for many companies, tips for content research, resources for improving writing, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesnicolekow.com — Nicole’s consultancyCodeSubmit, TrekkSoft — some of Nicole’s clientsReddit, Quora — great locations for researchOn Writing Well — a book by William ZinsserDon't Make Me Think — a book by Steve KrugElizabeth Gilbert, Ann Patchett — some of Nicole’s favorite writersAnimalz — content marketing agencyAsana, Intercom — companies with examples of strong written contentGrow Your Content Marketing as a Team of OneThe Evolution of Developer Salaries: Looking Back 20 YearsDeveloper Burnout: Why It Happens and What We Can Do About ItSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How much work goes into organizing a successful meetup? Our guest today is Jon Setzen, creative director at Kandji and former host of CreativeMornings LA. You'll learn how to handle meetup logistics, why great volunteers are essential, how to set speakers up for success, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesCreativeMornings LA — the CreativeMornings chapter Jon ledTina Roth Eisenberg — founder of CreativeMorningsKandji — Jon’s current place of employmentSwissmiss — a design blog run by Tina Roth EisenbergDrew Kelly’s Instagram — teaching in North KoreaEpisode 165: Designing Event Experiences with Paul CampbellApply to start a chapterTim Hunter, Wet Design — a CreativeMornings LA talk on water featuresSmallhours.co — Jon’s personal websiteToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Zeplin. Designers know that clarity is just as important as creativity. That’s why designers need Zeplin. Zeplin lets you organize and showcase your designs for developers and PMs. Your team will understand exactly what you want to build. No more confusing design files or endless meetings — Zeplin gives your team way more than just specs. Sign up for free at zeplin.io to see why.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Kieran Tie, founder of Chatty, the editorial service. You'll learn the different types of editing, negative writing habits to avoid, how to make niche technical content more appealing, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesChatty.so — Kieran’s editorial serviceGrammarly, Writer.com — proofreading toolsGoogle Docs, Quip — collaborative word processing toolsFollow Kieran on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can design systems help us build products more efficiently? Our guest today is Pek Pongpaet, founder of Impekable, an award-winning agency. You'll learn the importance of design systems, why documentation for these systems is important, how to organize design components, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesImpekable — Pek’s agencyApple HIC, Google Material Design, Tailwind — popular design systemsEpisode 103: UX Personalization with Samuel HulickWorkday Canvas Design System — example of another design systemEpisode 228: Design Advisory with Brian LovinFree UI Kits for Adobe XD — including kits made by ImpekableWhat is UX? — Pek’s podcastS2E3 Designing for Millions of Arduino DevelopersFollow Pek on LinkedInFollow Pek on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Zeplin. Designers know that clarity is just as important as creativity. That’s why designers need Zeplin. Zeplin lets you organize and showcase your designs for developers and PMs. Your team will understand exactly what you want to build. No more confusing design files or endless meetings — Zeplin gives your team way more than just specs. Sign up for free at zeplin.io to see why.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Marc Thomas, head of growth at Powered by Search. You'll learn why positioning is crucial for your SaaS business, the step-by-step framework for defining your positioning statement, some examples of SaaS positioning, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesPowered by Search — Marc’s place of workObviously Awesome — a book by April DunfordHow We Used April Dunford’s 10-Step Method to Overhaul Positioning at UserlistThe Saas Positioning CanvasBlink — book by Malcolm GladwellPowered by Search blogFollow Marc on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can object-oriented UX help designers solve complex product problems? Our guest today is Sophia Prater, UX designer and coach specializing in OOUX. You’ll learn why object-oriented thinking is well-suited for design processes, how a shared vocabulary enables collaboration, practical mapping tips, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesOOUX.com — Sophia’s websiteThe Object-Oriented User — Sophia’s articleUserlist, ActiveCampaign — popular email marketing toolsThe ORCA process — the 15-step design processThe UI Audit — Jane’s bookOO User Interfaces — a book by Dave CollinsAtomic Design — a book by Brad FrostThe Object Map — the quick start guideMural, Miro — popular visualization toolsCTA MatrixSketch, Figma, Adobe XD — popular design toolsHubSpot, Athena Healthcare, Webflow — examples of great OOUX designOOUX.com/hi/uibreakfast — resources and coupon code for listenersFollow Sophia on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Springboard. Launch your design career with a bootcamp built on mentorship, backed by a job guarantee. Springboard’s UX Design and UI/UX Design bootcamps are 100% online, but that doesn’t mean you’re doing it alone. Every student gets a personal mentor and career coach, plus you’ll work with a real client on a project for your portfolio. Visit https://bit.ly/springboard-ui-breakfast and get a $1,250 discount using promo code NYUIBREAKFAST1250.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Karl Hughes, founder of Draft.dev. You'll learn how to scale content for different goals, the editorial process he follows at his agency, tips for content promotion, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesDraft.dev — Karl’s agencyBuzzSumo — tool for evaluating content reachAhrefs — popular suite of SEO toolsBuilding a Scalable E-Commerce Data ModelUnderstanding Docker NetworkingThe Bulk of Software Engineering is Just PlumbingThe Best Golang Blogs50+ Best SaaS Podcasts: What Startup Founders Should Be Listening to in 2021Sarah Doody’s NewsletterThe Big Blog Promotion ChecklistDraft.dev BlogFollow Karl on TwitterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Can designers make an impact as startup advisors instead of providing capital? Our guest is Brian Lovin, founder of Staff Design and product designer at GitHub. You’ll learn how Brian invests in companies with design expertise instead of capital, why design advisory is helpful to startups, lessons that Brian has learned in the process, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesGitHub — Brian’s current companySpectrum, Facebook, Buffer — Brian’s previous places of workStaff Design — Brian’s most recent side projectDesign Details — Brian’s design news podcastUserlist — Jane’s SaaS productWhat I've learned so far about design advising and angel investingForm Capital — early-stage fund with a focus on designBootstrap, Tailwind CSS, Chakra.ui — popular design frameworksClerky, DocuSign, SignWell — document signing systemsHuddle.works — finding designers that work for equityLess Annoying CRM — not a flashy design, but it works wellLinear.app, Height.app — examples of modern, stylish designsBrian’s websiteFollow Brian on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Springboard. Launch your design career with a bootcamp built on mentorship, backed by a job guarantee. Springboard’s UX Design and UI/UX Design bootcamps are 100% online, but that doesn’t mean you’re doing it alone. Every student gets a personal mentor and career coach, plus you’ll work with a real client on a project for your portfolio. Visit https://bit.ly/springboard-ui-breakfast and get a $1,250 discount using promo code NYUIBREAKFAST1250.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Cassidy "Cassidoo" Williams, developer and content creator. You'll learn what equipment and tools Cassidy uses for streaming, tips on how to get started, different approaches to handling the live chat, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesCassidy’s Twitch channelLearn with Jason — a live learning site for developersTwitch, YouTube — popular streaming platformsOBS, Streamlabs, Twitch Studio — streaming desktop appsSocket Studio — open source software for enhancing Twitch streamsShure MV7, Blue Yeti — popular microphonesSony A6100 — Cassidy’s streaming cameraElgato Key Lights — a compact lighting optionFollow Cassidy on GitHubFollow Cassidy on TwitterCassidy’s website and newsletterSponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can we leverage product design exercises in our hiring process? Our guest is Artiom Dashinsky, author of Solving Product Design Exercises and founder of Swag Fair. You’ll learn how to prepare for interviews as a designer, how to evaluate designers as a manager, tips for building your design portfolio, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesSolving Product Design Exercises — Artiom’s bookSwag Fair — Artiom’s current companyWeWork — Artiom’s previous place of workCracking the Coding Interview — book by Gayle Laakmann McDowellCracking the PM Interview — book by Gayle Laakmann McDowell and Jackie BavaroArtiom’s websiteFollow Artiom on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Chris L. Davis, marketing automation consultant and founder of Automation Bridge. You'll learn how Chris gained his expertise, the steps in his mentorship and training model, the importance of mapping before automating, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesAutomation Bridge — Chris’s companyLeadpages, ActiveCampaign — Chris’s previous places of workSix Sigma — a popular business process frameworkChris’s Facebook GroupAll Systems Go! Podcast — Chris’s podcastFollow Chris on TwitterExplore automation resources on their websiteThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How do you build an agency that lasts the test of time? Our guest is Massimo Zefferino, founder of zfactor — a 23-year-old brand strategy and design agency. You’ll learn some practical design tips, why “niching down” is important for growth, how having fun and staying true to your brand is crucial, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show Noteszfactor — Massimo’s design agencyEpisode 178: Your Personal Design Style with Meg LewisOld is a state of mind — how to battle ageism in designShawn Carlisle — Massimo’s co-hostEveryone Hates Marketers — a podcast by Louis GrenierFollow Massimo on InstagramFollow Massimo on LinkedInThe Angry Designer — Massimo’s podcastToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Lucy Heskins, an early-stage startup marketing advisor at Oh, blimey. You'll learn about the different frameworks used in go-to-market strategy, how to scale your business using traction channels, content marketing tips, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesOh, blimey. — Lucy’s consulting companyCareercake — Lucy’s previous place of workProgression — Jonny Burch’s HR software companyBuilding HR Software with Jonny BurchCustomer Camp — a customer research framework by Katelyn BourgoinThe Mom Test — a book by Rob FitzpatrickTraction — a book by Gabriel WeinbergDrive Growth by Picking the Right Lane — A Customer Acquisition Playbook for Consumer Startups — an article on growth lanesProduct-Led Growth: How to Build a Product That Sells Itself — a book by Wes BushProduct-Led Growth Slack community — a resource for product-led growth marketersCustomer-led growth — go-to-market strategy that involves salesForget the Funnel — a resource for customer-led-growth marketingGet Out of the ARPU-CAC Danger Zone with Channel Model Fit — an article by Brian BalfourIntercom’s pricing matrix — found in Lucy’s Early-Stage Startup Marketing PlaybookLucy’s blogFollow Lucy on TwitterFollow Lucy on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Can you achieve a solid design for your products without a formal design background? Our guest is Tracy Osborn, author of “Hello Web Design” and Program Director at TinySeed. You’ll learn some of the business benefits of improving your design, how design frameworks can be valuable, how Tracy focuses her books for impact, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesHello Web Design — Tracy’s bookTinySeed — Tracy’s current place of workUserlist — Jane’s product (also a TinySeed company)No Starch Press — Tracy’s publisherEpisode 154: Refactoring UI with Adam Wathan and Steve SchogerSavvyCal — fellow TinySeed company with an eye for designDerrick Reimer — founder of SavvyCalDesigner Fund — a design-focused investment groupTracy’s websiteFollow Tracy on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Jimmy Rose, founder of Content Snare. You’ll learn several automation ideas that can improve business processes, the differences between popular automation platforms, how to automate content and document collection from clients, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesContent Snare — Jimmy’s SaaS productZapier, Integromat, IFTTT — popular automation toolsCalendly, SavvyCal — scheduling toolsSuperhuman — a Gmail clientFront, Intercom — shared inbox toolsElgato Stream Deck — a tool for streamingTouch Portal — the Android app for controlsZapier Lead Score — an integration for scoring leadsZapier Email Parser — a built-in email parserZapier vs. Integromat YouTube videoTypeform — a popular form builderDropbox, Google Drive — popular cloud storage optionsClickUp, Monday.com — project management systemsNotion, Dropbox Paper — other collaboration toolsjimmyrose.me — Jimmy’s website on automationFollow Jimmy on TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we talk about service design, a holistic approach to design that considers all involved stakeholders and processes. Our guest is Eleni Stathoulis, design director at Mad*Pow. You’ll learn about the design artifacts created in service design, how Eleni conducts research, real-world examples of service design in action, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesMad*Pow — Eleni’s companyServicedesigntools.org — a resource for service designersFour Seasons: The Story of a Business Philosophy — a book by Isadore SharpFind Elena’s writing on MediumFollow Eleni on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Jordan Skole, VP of Product Growth at Autobooks. You'll learn why it’s important to consider the entire customer experience, how copywriting can inform design, frameworks for understanding customers and creating email automations, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesAutobooks — Jordan’s current place of workMastering Email Software with Brennan DunnUI Breakfast Podcast. Episode 105: Website Personalization with Brennan DunnCI/CD — continuous integration and continuous deliveryCustomer ExperienceVal Geisler, Alli Blum, Claire Suellentrop — helped Jordan scale the conversion copywriting team at AutoBooksJoanna Wiebe — founder of CopyhackersJTBD FrameworkMiro, Mural — popular visualization toolsBob Moesta — an authority in the field of JTBDDemand-Side Sales — a book by Bob MoestaHero’s Journey MonomythThe Hero’s Journey — a book by Joseph CampbellFollow Jordan on TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we talk about marketing yourself, both as a personal brand and at work. Our guest is Shawn “Swyx” Wang, an engineering thought leader and author of “The Coding Career Handbook.” You’ll learn several components of defining your brand, tips on expressing that brand in public, collateral and strategies that will help you at work, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesSwyx.io — Shawn’s websiteThe Coding Career Handbook — Shawn’s bookTwo Sigma, Netlify, AWS — Shawn’s previous places of workTemporal — Shawn’s current place of workHow to Market Yourself without Being a CelebrityTwitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, Polywork — popular social networks to start building your audienceThe Craft of Storytelling + Thinking Like Elon Musk — an interview with Tim UrbanBuilding a CFP Process — Shawn’s blog post on public speakingNader Dabit — Shawn’s previous coworker, someone who maintains an extensive travel scheduleThe Swyx Mixtape — Shawn’s podcastEpisode 205: Building Your Platform with Corbett BarrDescript — an all-in-one audio and video editing tool with transcriptionFollow Shawn on TwitterGet 30% off Shawn’s book at learninpublic.org/?c=UIBREAKFAST30Today’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Colin Nederkoorn, founder of Customer.io. You'll learn about the common mistakes companies make when setting up their email tools, how to best handle certain types of data, tips for providing “done for you” services, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesCustomer.io — Colin’s company, a customer engagement platformMixpanel, Kissmetrics — popular product analytics toolsKlaviyo — an email automation platform for ShopifySegment — a customer data platformRudderStack — a data integration tool competing with SegmentSegment’s Data Collection Best Practices — a resource for developing your data tracking planFollow Colin on TwitterColin’s personal websiteThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we talk about “franchising” — a mental model applicable in marketing and other areas. Our guest is Jordan Skole, a marketing leader and director of product growth at AutoBooks. You’ll learn how to apply this mental model, the best timing for automating processes, tips for solving marketing challenges, the importance of side projects, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesAutoBooks — Jordan’s current place of workAmbassador, ActiveCampaign — some of Jordan’s previous employersUPC Code Manager — Jordan’s productCompound Growth — Jordan’s article on the franchise philosophyNathan Baschez — works in podcast media, UI designBetter Done Than Perfect — Jane’s show at UserlistBiggerPockets forum — real estate investing resourceTAM — total addressable marketJoanna Wiebe — founder of CopyhackersVal Geisler, Alli Blum, Claire Suellentrop — helped Jordan scale the conversion copywriting team at AutoBooksFarnam Street — a resource for mental modelsFollow Jordan on TwitterVentures & Adventures — Jordan’s siteToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Jason Resnick of ​​NurtureKit. You'll learn how to balance nurture sequences and broadcast emails, how to approach segmentation and lead scoring, tips for improving automations, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesNurtureKit — Jason’s consulting businessDrip, ConvertKit, ActiveCampaign — popular email marketing toolsLivestorm — webinar software Follow Jason on TwitterSubscribe to Jason’s NurtureKit channel on YouTubeThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What is behavioral economics, and how can it help us design better products? Our guest today is Kristen Berman, co-founder of Irrational Labs. You’ll learn the key concepts, tips for motivating users, how behavior shapes design, resources for studying behavior, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesIrrational Labs — Kristen’s companyQuicken by Intuit— one of Kristen’s previous projectsDan Ariely — Kristen’s co-founderWikipedia’s List of Cognitive BiasesThe 3B Framework — designing for behavioral changeWhy we Do What We Do — a book by Edward Deci on motivationBurning Man — a famous festivalSteady — a fintech appOptimism Bias — one of the cognitive biasesUserlist — Jane’s tool, email marketing automation for SaaSJuul — an example of replacing a behavior instead of stopping it entirelyBehavioral Economics Bootcamp — 20% off using promocode UIBREAKFASTIrrational Labs Newsletter — great resource on behavioral economicsPredictably Irrational — a book by Dan ArielyInfluence — a book by Robert CialdiniFollow Kristen on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Can we ever skip user testing and simply rely on best practices? Our guest today is Karl Gilis, co-founder of AGConsult. You’ll learn what “best practices” mean, where to find them, when user testing is still necessary, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesAGConsult — Karl’s consultancyEpisode 111: Effective Website Navigation with Els AertsEpisode 118: Customer Top Tasks with Gerry McGovernDon’t Make Me Think — a book by Steve KrugNielsen Norman Group — usability experts who publish the most trusted guidelines in the industryBaymard Institute — another organization to go for trusted guidelinesUser Interface Engineering — Jared Spool’s consultancyEpisode 148: SaaS Websites with Josh GarofaloStart With Why — a book by Simon SinekZalando — one ecommerce exampleFollow AGConsult founders, Karl & Els, on TwitterFollow Karl on LinkedInToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Wireframe — a podcast all about creativity and design. They cover a broad range of topics for creative professionals: everything from logo design to UX to typography to product packaging. The show is hosted by Khoi Vinh, Principal Designer at Adobe and one of our previous guests. To listen, search for Wireframe in your podcast app, or follow this link. Our thanks to Wireframe for their support.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Brennan Dunn, co-founder of RightMessage. We discuss how he gained his email automation knowledge, and the best practices for email automation.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesRightMessage — Brennan's email automation and lead generation softwareCreateAndSell.co — Brennan’s project where he teaches intermediate and advanced email marketing strategiesDouble Your Freelancing — Brennan's previous solo ventureDrip, ConvertKit, Userlist, Customer.io, Mailchimp, ActiveCampaign, Klaviyo — email marketing providersLiquid — a templating language built by ShopifyBidsketch, SignWell (formerly Docsketch) — products by Ruben GamezHelp Scout, HubSpot, RightMessage — companies that do good email marketingFollow Brennan on TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What should you do to ensure your Kickstarter campaign success? How can you avoid common pitfalls in structuring your reward tiers? Our guest today is Jeremy Slagle, founder of Slagle Design. You’ll learn how Jeremy successfully launched two children's book projects, his tips on launching a crowdfunding campaign, benefits beyond funding, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesHappy Cargo Books — Jeremy’s book project with Beth StaffordSlagle Design — Jeremy’s design studioEpisode 149: Tech Education for Kids with Miriam TocinoDropbox Paper — a collaboration toolKickstarter, GoFundMe — popular crowdfunding optionsSquarespace — a popular CMSStudio Neat pens — a great product exampleIt Will Be Exhilarating — a book by Studio NeatFind Jeremy at Slagle DesignFollow Jeremy on Twitter and InstagramToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Wireframe — a podcast all about creativity and design. They cover a broad range of topics for creative professionals: everything from logo design to UX to typography to product packaging. The show is hosted by Khoi Vinh, Principal Designer at Adobe and one of our previous guests. To listen, search for Wireframe in your podcast app, or follow this link. Our thanks to Wireframe for their support.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Can you run a successful company while keeping a calm workplace? What practices lead to logical and thoughtful decision making, even in times of high stress? Our guest today is Hanne Vervaeck, COO at Thrive Themes. You’ll learn what “calm” means to them, practical tips on hiring, how they approach work boundaries and goals, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesIt Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work — book by Jason Fried at BasecampTraction System — a goal setting frameworkPeter Thiel Principle — the best individual contributors may not make the best leaders of that roleTheme Builder — one of the big projects at Thrive ThemesFollow Hanne on LinkedInFollow Thrive Themes on TwitterToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Copilot. Looking for a better way to track your spending? Tired of juggling multiple bank apps? Copilot is a beautifully designed personal finance app created by Google engineers that gives you insights you won't get from your banks. Let Copilot automatically find your subscriptions, categorize your spending, and track your investments and net worth. Download Copilot today at copilot.money and use promocode UIBREAKFAST to double your free trial.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Jonny Burch, co-founder and CEO of Progression. We discuss several challenges they face while operating in the HR space — from selling their software to aligning vocabulary with customers.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesProgression — Jonny's career growth productProgression.fyi — the original free resourceDeliveroo — a popular UK-based delivery company, similar to Uber EatsDovetail — a tool for capturing product insightsFigma — web-based design tool, a community of design advocatesGainsight — customer success and product experience softwareSegment — a popular customer data platform (CDP)Mixpanel — a tool for event-based analyticsChargebee — a subscription billing & revops platformChartMogul — a tool for revenue analyticsSmartlook — a tool for user behavior tracking, similar to FullStoryFollow Jonny on TwitterFollow Progression on TwitterEmail [email protected] and mention UIBREAKFAST to claim your product discountThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What are the principles of intuitive product design? How do we apply them to general-use software, such as a presentation tool? Our guest today is Fabricio Rosa Marques, Head of Product Design at Pitch. You’ll learn the story behind their product, how they arrive at design consensus, how they delight users, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesPitch — Fab’s place of work, a tool for building presentationsTower — Fab’s previous place of workChristian Reber — co-founder of PitchDieter Rams — legendary designer known for being opinionatedFigma — a popular design toolSlack, Discord, Canva, Zoom, Around, Yac, Webflow — popular online toolsFollow Fab on TwitterFollow Pitch on TwitterToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Around — video calls designed for collaboration, not meetings. It's perfect for design sessions, brainstorms, and crits. Here's a recent tweet from a designer about Around: "I love Around so much, it physically pains me to use Zoom or Google Meet. Around makes meetings so much more enjoyable." Try it out for free at around.co/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Can you run effective meetings and still protect maker time? Yes, and you can even transform meetings into delightful, collaborative parts of the day. Our guest today is Douglas Ferguson, President of Voltage Control and author of Magical Meetings. You’ll learn what meetings aren’t necessary, how to run meetings that are, tips on how to make those meetings magical, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesVoltage Control — Douglas’s consulting companyMagical Meetings — Douglas’s book on getting the most out of meetingsExtreme Programming, Agile, Scrum, Lean, Design Thinking — popular methodologiesFacilitation Lab — weekly community meetings at Voltage Control, ThursdaysGoogle Docs, MURAL, Miro, Figma — popular tools for live collaborationRACI chart — responsible, accountable, consulted or informedMagical Meetings resourcesVoltage Control’s blogVoltage Control’s courses & workshopsFollow Douglas on TwitterToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Around — video calls designed for collaboration, not meetings. Around's lightweight, beautiful and fun interface automatically frees up your screen; it's perfect for design sessions, crits, and brainstorms. Just search for around_hq on Twitter, you'll see that the design community is obsessed with this tool. Try it out for free at around.co/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Ashutosh Priyadarshy, founder of Sunsama. You'll learn the story behind their productivity tool, how they define customer success, qualify new customers, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesIntercom — a popular live chat toolTypeform — a popular survey toolSuperhuman — a popular email client with high-touch onboardingAmplitude, FullStory — product analytics and insights toolsConnect with Ashutosh at [email protected] Ashutosh or [email protected] to get three free months of SunsamaThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

A healthy co-founder relationship is the foundation of a good business. How can we prevent conflicts and alleviate friction? Our guest today is Shai Schechter, co-founder of RightMessage. You’ll learn the story behind RightMessage, how to navigate co-founder relationships, how to leverage different skills and personality types, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesRightMessage — Shai’s product with Brennan DunnDouble Your Freelancing — Brennan’s Previous BusinessThe story of Userlist, Inc. — Jane’s co-founder storyThe only wrong answer is 50/50: Calculating the co-founder equity split — an article by Dan ShapiroCasey Graham — the growth coach who helped Shai and BrennanThe Synergist Quiz — the test to figure out your personality type (Visionary, Operator, Processor, Synergist)Rubber Duck Programming — arriving at solution after problem explanationFollow Shai on TwitterSign up for Shai’s newsletterToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Around — video calls designed for collaboration, not meetings. It's perfect for design sessions, brainstorms, and crits. Here's a recent tweet from a designer about Around: "I love Around so much, it physically pains me to use Zoom or Google Meet. Around makes meetings so much more enjoyable." Try it out for free at around.co/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can we grow as designers within teams and companies? What can we do to stay happy and do our best work? Our guest today is Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and Chief Product Officer at Adobe. You’ll learn how to think about your design career, learn from great designers, work with teammates and leaders, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesBehance — Scott's previous productAdobe — Scott’s current place of workEpisode 86: The Future of UX with Khoi VinhThe Messy Middle, Making Things Happen — Scott's BooksAction Method — Scott’s physical product line (now run by Ghostly)99U — a conference and resource siteEpisode 195: Minimalist Design with Brian GardnerEpisode 79: Typography in UI Design with Rafal TomalEpisode 62: Teaching Design Theory with Jarrod DrysdaleGetting Started in UI/UX: How to Pursue Your CareerStefan Sagmeister's websiteFollow Scott on TwitterScott's WebsiteToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Hotjar. This tool lets you see how people truly experience your site or product and gives your users a voice. Let real users show and tell you which changes your team should make to improve user experience. Eliminate the guesswork: use Hotjar to understand how users experience your site. Try Hotjar Business free for 3 months at hotjar.com/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Liz Painter, an email strategist and conversion copywriter at Comma Comma. Liz reveals several ways in which we can improve our copywriting and make meaningful connections with our users through email. The underlying theme? Talk to your users!Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesComma Comma — Liz's copywriting consultancyCopyhackers — copywriting instruction siteOtter.ai — AI transcription serviceRev.com — human-assisted transcription serviceThinkific — online course creation siteClickUp — project management tool, sends emails from a personal addressGitPrime (now Pluralsight Flow) — analytics for developersFollow Liz on LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best tool for sending onboarding emails and segmenting your SaaS users. To follow the best practices, download our free printable email planning worksheets at userlist.com/worksheets.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What makes a successful paid ad campaign? How can we make this channel work? Our guest today is Pamela Wagner, founder and CEO of Ajala Digital. You'll learn how Pamela helps clients at her agency, what tools they use, what you can do with various budgets, how to get a better return, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesAjala Digital — Pamela's ad agencyGoogle PageSpeed Insights — used to evaluate webpage performanceKartra — a marketing automation toolSegMetrics — tool for tracking marketing funnel dataGoogle Skillshop — free training for Google toolsGoogle Ads Help — Google Ads support resourcesGrow with Google — free certificate courses and resourcesGoogle Alerts — service that deliveries email summaries for certain topicsThink with Google — marketing insights from GoogleFollow Ajala Digital on Facebook and LinkedInToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Around — video calls designed for collaboration, not meetings. Around's lightweight, beautiful and fun interface automatically frees up your screen; it's perfect for design sessions, crits, and brainstorms. Just search for around_hq on Twitter, you'll see that the design community is obsessed with this tool. Try it out for free at around.co/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

How can we use data to drive discussions and solve disagreements as a product team? How can we, as designers, take a seat at the decision-making table? Today our guest is Zack Naylor, the co-founder and CEO of Aurelius. You’ll learn how to convert data into product insights, how to evaluate quantitative and qualitative data, how to say "no" to product roadmap suggestions, and more.Download the MP3 audio file: right-click here and choose Save As.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesAurelius — Zack's product, a UX research and insights toolThe Aurelius Podcast — Zack’s show, interviews with UX professionalsAurelius Podcast: Episode 40 – What UX Designers & Researchers Need to Know About Business with Jane PortmanEpisode 201: Data-Driven Insights with Helena RonisEpisode 75: Organizing a UX Research Panel with Ashley WarrenEpisode 209: JTBD Interviews with Alli BlumUserlist — Jane’s SaaS productShape Up — a book by Ryan Singer at BasecampEpisode 170: The Power of Workshops with Jonathan CourtneyREWORK — a podcast by the makers of Basecamp about a better way to work and run your businessFollow Zack on TwitterChat with Zack at AureliusToday’s Sponsor This episode is brought to you by Yellow Images, the premium graphic assets marketplace. Get access to high-quality mockups, PNG images, creative fonts, and more, to save time on your presentations. Wow your next client by heading over to yellowimages.com and snag a 20% discount using our limited-time promocode UIBREAKFAST20.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk with Moritz Dausinger, founder of Refiner. Moritz shares the story behind his survey tool, when and how to survey your users, and many other tips for making the most of the survey data.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesRefiner — Moritz’s product, a survey tool for SaaS companiesMailparser, Docparser — Moritz’s past projects prior to RefinerSegment — customer data platform (CDP)Amplitude — product analytics toolGall’s Law — the law about complex systems being built from simple systemsCapterra — software search and comparison toolSaas Growth Hacks — a popular Facebook group for SaaS foundersQuora — knowledge sharing platformProduct-Led Growth — product-based go-to-market strategyFollow Moritz on TwitterThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twitter mentioning @userlist, or leave us a review on iTunes.SponsorThis show is brought to you by Userlist — the best way for SaaS founders to send onboarding emails, segment your users based on events, and see where your customers get stuck in the product. Start your free trial today at userlist.com.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.

What can we learn about starting new SaaS products from a multi-exit founder? Are there generalized lessons that apply for almost every product? Our guest today is Adii Pinaar, the founder of Cogsy and author of Life Profitability. You’ll learn what lessons Adii accumulated from his prior companies, how to evaluate advice before applying it, how to hire in the early stages, and more.Podcast feed: subscribe to https://feeds.simplecast.com/4MvgQ73R in your favorite podcast app, and follow us on iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.Show NotesWooCommerce — Adii’s prior company acquired by AutomatticConversio (now CM Commerce) — another one of Adii’s products, acquired by Campaign MonitorLife Profitability — Adii’s recent bookCogsy — Adii’s new product, an ecommerce inventory purchasing toolEpisode 157: Serving Your Customer’s Customers with Adii PienaarCarrots, Sticks & Measuring Success with Adii PienaarSKUs — stock keeping units, part of product catalog, used for inventory trackingMetered billing — pricing based on usage levelExpansion revenue — additional revenue generated by existing customersBehind the Scenes: How We Bought userlist.com & Rebranded as UserlistRosie Manning — brand and product designerUserlist — Jane’s SaaS productEpisode 172: Naming Your Product with Brad FlowersWho Not How — book Adii credits with transformative thinking, “Who do I need to accomplish X?” as opposed to “How do I accomplish X?”TinySeed — SaaS accelerator for bootstrappersAdii’s websiteFollow Adii on TwitterToday’s SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Hotjar. This tool lets you see how people truly experience your site or product and gives your users a voice. Let real users show and tell you which changes your team should make to improve user experience. Eliminate the guesswork: use Hotjar to understand how users experience your site. Try Hotjar Business free for 3 months at hotjar.com/uibreakfast.Interested in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here.Leave a ReviewReviews are hugely important because they help new people discover this podcast. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, please leave a review on iTunes. Here’s how.